12V Milwaukee More Powerful Than 18V? Head 2 Head Torture Test!

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  • Do you really need 18 volt power tools or can 12 volts get the job done? I've been using the Milwaukee M12 line for my DIY projects so I'm putting my M12 Fuel hammer drill and impact driver against the M18 hammer drill and impact driver to find out! You've seen me use the M12 drill and impact driver on my DIY smokeless fire pit and when hanging string lights. These are the most powerful drills and drivers DIYers can get. Whether drilling holes or driving lag screws both of these platforms are absolute beasts. I pushed the M12 line far beyond what it is designed to do and it still impressed me.
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  • @bradleybruh
    @bradleybruh ปีที่แล้ว +106

    I’ve ran m18 fuels for a few years and they’ve out performed anything else I’ve used! Finally broke down and just bought a 12v fuel set which is why I am watching this. This video is a perfect example of using the right tool for the job. 18v is good for install, 12v is more convenient for service and repair! Just my opinion as an electrician who’s worked in residential, commercial and industrial settings.

    • @dylantrono3981
      @dylantrono3981 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That and sometimes the m12 can just get in some real tight spaces I feel

    • @pauljamilkowski3672
      @pauljamilkowski3672 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bingo. I'm in residential HVAC service and the M12 line serves me well in SO many situations working in tight quarters. IMO, M18 is great for commercial and residential install.

    • @carsonrowe8948
      @carsonrowe8948 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So as an electrician myself. I am asking what you mean by the m18 is better for installs? Obviously useful for drilling wood studs, unibits, and large holes. However, in steel stud for the application of boxing, strapping, and even half inch holes with twist bits I think the m12 is more than powerful enough.

    • @henryairconcepts2999
      @henryairconcepts2999 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I use makita 18V and milwaukee m12 at work as a door installer. No doubt 18V tools are stronger than M12. But the M12 tools are overpriced and some of them are even more expensive than the 18V makita

    • @gilbertoperez2687
      @gilbertoperez2687 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pauljamilkowski3672I also do service(hvac)just bought the m12.way lighter than my 18v makita

  • @HAXMAN
    @HAXMAN  3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Hi guys! If you're interested I've got Amazon links to these tools in the description. Thanks for watching!

    • @dinodrizzle
      @dinodrizzle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tighten the freaking clutch more dude

  • @tannerwest6823
    @tannerwest6823 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    These 12v drills are perfect for carrying under a house as a plumber to hang straps for drain lines etc. Super convenient and lightweight when having to drive screws laying on your back or stomach

  • @anthonygriffin1147
    @anthonygriffin1147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    18 volt Milwaukee is like a 7-11 being open 24 hours. I don't need a slurpee at 2am. I just need the option to have a slurpee at 2am.

  • @evictioncarpentry2628
    @evictioncarpentry2628 3 ปีที่แล้ว +254

    This is painful to watch when the guy doesn't know to manually tighten and lock the chuck.
    Having said that, I own a large amount of M12 tools and Makita 18V.
    There is a HUGE difference in power once you start going over any bits that are half inch.

    • @TSUNAMISTI
      @TSUNAMISTI 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thank you !!!

    • @liamflack1974
      @liamflack1974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Amen!

    • @PreAchEr777x3
      @PreAchEr777x3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Was thinking the same thing

    • @genshinimpact1248
      @genshinimpact1248 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      LOL make me laugh, with all that best tool behind him, not surprise he cut his hand seeing that he don't know how to tighten even the bit, hope that bit not strike him, like saw.

    • @xXPhIlIeSXx2010
      @xXPhIlIeSXx2010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lol at work I tested both and you’re exactly on point, anything over an inch is basically not going to go well. Just get the m18 for anything over 1/2-3/4

  • @muteharmony
    @muteharmony 3 ปีที่แล้ว +367

    Total 2021 wood budget for this video: $7,000.00

    • @ea5929
      @ea5929 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      3 weeks after... U can count twice

    • @ForceMultiplier
      @ForceMultiplier 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmao

    • @pbmartinfencing
      @pbmartinfencing 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right 😂😂😂😂

  • @Highqman1974
    @Highqman1974 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Simple fact that the M12 is doing what the M18 is makes it the winner

  • @Justanotherwhiteguy4U
    @Justanotherwhiteguy4U 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Great video but when you tighten down Milwaukee chucks don’t hold it and spin the drill to tighten it, that’s why your bits kept falling out if you spin the chuck by hand with the drill off there is a ratcheting system that gets the chuck super tight. On a side note the m12 is great for light duty but for large paddle bits and hole saws the m18 is the top dog

    • @bartholomewgreatpants3425
      @bartholomewgreatpants3425 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      After you ratchet it tight by hand you can go back slightly the other way until you hear a click and your bit is now locked into place

    • @012345678844
      @012345678844 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bartholomewgreatpants3425 Fake news

    • @leaf5073
      @leaf5073 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      WRONG. Turning the chuck back until it clicks UNLOCKS IT. Go watch AvE's video about this, he breaks down the patent drawings and everything. STOP PERPETUATING THIS MYTH. IT DAMAGES CHUCKS.

    • @timothymcleod2760
      @timothymcleod2760 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leaf5073 nope. That's incorrect. The locking system is true, you can fell it cam over when you twist the chuck back. That's locking the jaws. I've spoken to Milwaukee repair agents and they confirmed this. I trust them more than a guy on TH-cam

    • @Mike-vt6is
      @Mike-vt6is ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Milwaukee Chuck’s just can’t hold bits no matter what just a problem with them .

  • @cletus7419
    @cletus7419 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    While I won’t argue that 18v is more powerful, I’m an electrician and I use m12 impact and drill at work every single day. Serves my needs just fine. About the only thing I really need an 18v drill for is hole saws. I run the surge impact though because it’s a lot easier on the ears. It crazy how much quieter the hammer is on it.

    • @JuanaWatchDaWorldBurn
      @JuanaWatchDaWorldBurn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I got the m12 surge impact and I've framed 100s of lineal feet with no prob...so many ppl like how it sounds like a toy but it gets it done!

  • @davidwestervelt6050
    @davidwestervelt6050 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I found that with the 18v. The cheaper bits do not hold up. I drill into a lot of masonry to mount anchors. I have found that when I first got it, I was destroying the tips off the bits. It has so much more torque and speed. The bits where glowing red hot and broke the masonry bit ears right off. Great drill and impact set. I am so glad they have improved to this point. The first tools were so under powered. The most popular tool was the Makita drill. They were hard to kill. We had to carry a Milwaukee corded hammer drill to back it up for the tough drilling. We did beat them pretty hard also. I have always like the corded drills. Now it seems they have worked out the bugs over the years. They are a great set. Would recommend to anyone on the fence. Since we use ours every day for work. I actually use both a hammer drill and a standard drill on some projects together. This helps to keep from changing bits and cuts down on time. They have become more job specific with the battery setup. Keeps down on the weight for handling the tool all day. I keep some of the 1.5ah batteries for that. Which is nice for the flashlight also. I have found it helpful to have a variety of batteries. I currently carry 1.5, 3 and 5 ah batteries. I have two of each with two chargers. I have not run out of charged batteries on a project yet and help so keep them charging quickly. The tools are well worth the money.

  • @samsymes001
    @samsymes001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    How come you never lock the chuck until it clicks? Think you might find that's why the bits keep spinning and falling out!

    • @jaydenmilliss2147
      @jaydenmilliss2147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Just what I was thinking

    • @fmhipower
      @fmhipower 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah man. That part hurt. He didn't ratchet a ratcheting chuck

    • @jonathan5314
      @jonathan5314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      with milwaukee you tighten the bit until it clicks a couple of times then go one click back and that will lock it in place...... milwaukee is smart

    • @jadslash
      @jadslash 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or that's why he keep "losing" bits

    • @Krow943
      @Krow943 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jonathan5314 "one click back and that will lock it in place" I had no idea about that part thank you lol

  • @pagesk2001
    @pagesk2001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I have M12 tools, I got them for the smaller size and ease of handling. If I needed the added power of the M18, I use a plug in tool. I have the impact driver, hammer drill, reciprocating saw, multi tool, 3/8 ratchet and 3/8 impact wrench. They have been great tools, very ergonomic and reliable.

    • @WolvesHart79
      @WolvesHart79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here...my M12s cover just about everything I need and if not I use my corded tool.

    • @em4703
      @em4703 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@WolvesHart79 The only thing they miss is an m12 wood planer. That would be amazing, I was surprised Milwaukee doesn't make one.

    • @hoanganhluong4242
      @hoanganhluong4242 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@em4703tôi cũng muốn 1 chiếc máy bào gỗ m12

  • @imlon2
    @imlon2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    using drill bits on an impact driver is AMAAAAZING!! Especially on the paddle bits.

    • @2ASPARKY
      @2ASPARKY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      honestly they are great

  • @Divici02623
    @Divici02623 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You need to tighten the chuck by hand pretty much til you can't anymore

    • @Ollie-Chazz
      @Ollie-Chazz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Then lock it by turning it back a whisker after its tight, you feel it lock. Test it you will know what i mean.

  • @MisterModder123
    @MisterModder123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I'm a cable guy, so I'm driving screws to hold up wires, occasionally drilling into concrete for small anchors, etc. I've been carrying around an M18 on my belt but it's getting a bit heavy...I think I'll do the M12! It's incredibly powerful for being so much smaller.

    • @ForceMultiplier
      @ForceMultiplier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Got an M12 5o replace an M18 that someone stole off my site. They were out of 18's at Depot when I went. Had no idea there was a push button to change speeds on top of the M12 impact driver. I thought it straight sucked at first, and let it bounce around in the truck for a few days. It changed the speed to 3 and I was stunned...then realized there was a light on top of it with a button...such an idiot. Great power, and the batteries are nice to have for my jacket during colder days.

    • @Longshot1056
      @Longshot1056 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cable guy as well. Honestly the only thing I break out the M18 for is hammer drilling 3/8"-1/2" holes in stone/concrete/brick walls, I live in an area with a lot of old farm houses with river rock and heavy stone foundations, or any hole needing to be longer than 6" (and even with this if they made 7/16" bell hanger bits that were 12" long with a 1/4" hex drive I'd use those with the M12). Everything else can be done with the M12 impact driver. Screw clips? M12 Impact. Wall plates? M12 impact with replacement screws (because he ones that come with wall plates are trash, I mean seriously who decided on slotted screws that strip after the most miniscule amount of force?). Anchor holes in literally anything? M12 impact with a 1/4" multimaterial bit. That M12 impact has replaced my old beat up Ryobi electric screwdriver, my M18 impact, and my M18 hammer drill (for specific applications). This is all with the 2A battery too, I have a 4A but I just find I don't need it and the 2A fits in places better.
      I mean who wants to be carrying an M18 up 20-28' to drill a pilot hole for an anchor or drive in a few screws? I don't anymore. M12 fits in the pouch with my other tools so I don't have to worry about missing the clip and I'm not fiddling with chucks and bits up top in wind, rain, and all other kinds of crap. It was easily the investment I appreciated the most. I'm tempted to try using the M12 hammer drill for the larger holes, but just don't know if it'll have the grunt to drive a 26"x1/2" masonry bit through a stone foundation.

  • @themototo10
    @themototo10 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man, I've never used the M18 stuff but I LOVE my M12 tools... I'm an accessories fitter at a dealership for 4x4's so I'm working with brand new bolts/screws, the M12 stuff has PLENTY of grunt to deal with the thread locked, factory tightened bolts. Awesome stuff, I've not once thought, hmm I need more powerful tools. ( I use the M12 multi tool, die grinder, 3/8 Stubby, and 1/4 impact driver... and a couple different heated M12 jackets/vests..)

  • @DiligentDave1966
    @DiligentDave1966 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I’m just amazed at how well the M12 compares to almost any 18 or 20 volt tool, especially with the 6 amp battery.
    By the way, the 6 amp battery provides more power in most cases.

    • @dangrimes5078
      @dangrimes5078 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's probably why my drill is weak. I don't have good batteries.

    • @DiligentDave1966
      @DiligentDave1966 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dangrimes5078 Or it’s just a weaker drill. They all have a torque rating.

    • @Fatedfilms
      @Fatedfilms 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      the six amp hour battery has known issues with its longevity, unfortunately

  • @SuperstreetC10
    @SuperstreetC10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Drilling through a 4 x 4 at today’s wood prices is just flonting your money. Show off. 👍

    • @SuperstreetC10
      @SuperstreetC10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @asdrubale bisanzio haha. No joke.

    • @pointedspider
      @pointedspider 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No shit

    • @vankzeng5161
      @vankzeng5161 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @asdrubale bisanzio Hey guys! Name something that is better than FREE?
      We are offering FREE products including oscillating tool blades to talented people such as yourself to try out our products.
      All we ask in return is to provide a 4 or 5 star review on Amazon after you’ve tried it!
      We send you the money including tax to purchase the item on Amazon, and you try it and make the review! It's as simple as that! We have the highest quality and largest selection of adult toys that you won't get enough of!
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    • @mrniusi11
      @mrniusi11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      flaunting

    • @SuperstreetC10
      @SuperstreetC10 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mrniusi11 ok thanks Kyle.

  • @PowerToolsForBeginners
    @PowerToolsForBeginners 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My M12 Fuel are My Favorites as Well! but got the M18 Fuel for a just in case situation! this is one of my favorite videos on the entire TH-cam Platform! Love this video!

  • @TheBootyWrangler
    @TheBootyWrangler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The fact that he has a whole workshop filled with wood, nails, screws, wood, and a whole lot of various tools makes this video so much funnier. Imagine how many years he has been screaming at his keyless chucks for dropping bits 😂😂 without discovering the ratcheting function of a keyless chuck

    • @maxfathi596
      @maxfathi596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, this video was painfull to watch

    • @tonygill3344
      @tonygill3344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bit tragic agreed 😂

    • @hoanganhluong4242
      @hoanganhluong4242 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂

    • @brandenshank7253
      @brandenshank7253 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I could not agree more. Novices!

  • @HamiltonvilleFarm
    @HamiltonvilleFarm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    TH-cam! Why doesn’t this video have a million views already????

    • @HAXMAN
      @HAXMAN  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      🤞😂 Thanks!

    • @MonsterMuddy
      @MonsterMuddy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HAXMAN I agree! I love him! He is a combination of AvE and Project Farm!

    • @MonsterMuddy
      @MonsterMuddy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nevermind, he had square drives. Fing canadian

    • @MonsterMuddy
      @MonsterMuddy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn't know you name was Adams, so is mine. I like you now

    • @MonsterMuddy
      @MonsterMuddy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im drunk sorry

  • @MrGamer-lz6ci
    @MrGamer-lz6ci 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love how nobody on TH-cam knows how to lock a chuck I feel like it’s top-secret at this point

    • @Ollie-Chazz
      @Ollie-Chazz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tell me about it. Lol crack it a whisker back once tight 😉 not manny people know 😄

  • @eddieabernathy5998
    @eddieabernathy5998 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm so glad someone knows the difference between a lag bolt and a lag screw great review man

  • @timderks5960
    @timderks5960 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    TL;DR: More Ah doesn't directly mean more power, but a smaller battery could limit your tool's ability to pull power from the battery.
    The capacity of a battery doesn't change the power the battery can deliver. HOWEVER, for power tools, a bigger battery usually means more "rows" of batteries. A row consists of a couple of cells that are put in series. This increases the voltage from roughly 3V per cell, to a total of 12V or 18V. Now to add more capacity, you need more cells, but you can't put them in series, since that would increase the voltage, so they put the next row parallel with the previous one. When cells are hooked up parallel, they increase the amperage, which in turn can make your tool more powerful (or really, a smaller battery can make your tool less powerful, the max power is always determined by the tool, not the battery).

    • @jmackinjersey1
      @jmackinjersey1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To simplify, have three guys of the same size carry the log ten miles or 6 guys of the same size carry the same log the same distance. Not necessarily adding more power, but distributing the load and allowing more work to be done for a longer period of time.

    • @rooster1999
      @rooster1999 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also the rpms and in/lb of the M18 drill probably double M12 due to smaller battery.

    • @RandyMarsh0301
      @RandyMarsh0301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @11:10 pilot hole... It's called a pilot hole. Not pre drill

    • @timderks5960
      @timderks5960 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@RandyMarsh0301 First of all, you're replying to the wrong thing, mr. "expert". Secondly, pre-drilling and a pilot hole are two completely different things. A pilot hole is a thing, pre-drilling is an action. Those can exist side by side.
      Also, it's not "cAlLeD" a pilot hole, that's just something that some people call it. You can call it a pre-drilled hole, poopsicle, whatever you like. Don't be so pedantic, it's just sad.

    • @RandyMarsh0301
      @RandyMarsh0301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@timderks5960 Wow someone is angry. Are you ok now? You got all that off your chest? Have a Kleenex (or facial tissue if Kleenex offends you) and just breath.

  • @HerrenGamingNews
    @HerrenGamingNews 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What I'm buying the M12 for is for tight areas and the m18 for my daily driver.
    I worked in a shop that made AC units for data centers I always looked down upon m12 but now I see the value!
    Looking back there's been times where I'd rather sacrifice power for compact multiple times a day for the longest time all I valued was power.

    • @Username-ng8jy
      @Username-ng8jy ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmao. I do chiller hvac work and m12 is fine 90 percent of the time. I have the hex and the 3/8 stubby.
      It’s not that often that I have to use m18.

  • @vasya88
    @vasya88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TL;DR most modern power tools - bigger battery more power !
    most modern power tools do get more power with higher capacity batteries, lithium cells have a Discharge Rate usually specified in C, say the cell is 1.5Ah and discharge rate of 1C, you can pull 1.5Ah x 1C=1.5A from the cell, say its 20C, you can pull 1.5Ah x 20C = 30A from the cell, then you add more cells in parallel (increasing the battery capacity) say instead of 1 row you put 3 in parallel it triples the current you can pull from the battery, meaning you can pull 60A (with previous example) and this counts. tools an batteries have electronics in them monitoring the currents and voltage to protect the tool and the battery, so if the m12 shuts off when it binds its because the 2Ah battery told it to cut the power because it cant provide more current, the 6Ah battery would of had 3 times the limit of the 2Ah, of course you need to take into consideration the amount of current the tools motor can handle, that why the tool and the battery constantly "talking to each other", this is why its very important to match a tool with a battery to get the most out of it, there is a video on youtube of a guy using the m18 12Ah battery on the m18 driver or impact and its just shuts off when he pulls the trigger because the tool is overwhelmed with the amount of current is gets (also an engineering fault) also bigger batteries are better for battery performance and overheating, when you are really pushing the tool - with bigger battery the battery can push more amps and run cooler.

  • @davidfroese357
    @davidfroese357 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not a milwaukee guy but I really enjoy u trying out all these things, I appreciate your time and effort❤

  • @ronmurphy4234
    @ronmurphy4234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have several examples of both the M18 and M12, the main difference is power, if I have a simple task I'll use the M12 because of the weight, but when power is required, I'll used the M18... an example was putting long screws into 2x4 stock, the M12 could start the task, but didn't have enough power to force the boards tight, when I switched to the M18, not only did the gap disappear, the screw was counter sunk into the wood.

  • @Z10Z43
    @Z10Z43 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lock your chuck the correct way and you will stop losing your bits…tighten all the way, then loosen the chuck 1 ‘click’…you will save your chuck in the long run

  • @aaronblack8920
    @aaronblack8920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'll always choose m12 for the impact. The m12 drill is also good, but for certain tasks I'd rather have the m18 drill.

  • @kennethbrande3875
    @kennethbrande3875 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I drill holes with a Milwaukee drill and hole hawg all the time at work yet still watched this entire video.

    • @HAXMAN
      @HAXMAN  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm glad you did! 😄

  • @Rafael-vu2xn
    @Rafael-vu2xn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who doesn't love running powertools? Great video!

  • @grantdeisig1360
    @grantdeisig1360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I'm no expert, but from my personal experience I can say that the xc batteries (at least on the m12) have more power. You can definitely hear the rpm difference between the two different batteries. My scientific take on this is that because the larger xc batteries have more cells in them, they can distribute the load more evenly between the individual cells, which causes less strain/draw and more rpm due to the amperage draw being more equally distributed. Once again, I have no idea, but it sounds good to me...lol

    • @StraitClownin909
      @StraitClownin909 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As an electrician. Yes simply having more amps through the extra batteries will fove you more power Va

    • @procrastinator1842
      @procrastinator1842 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The load is split between the two sets of cells, therefore there is less voltage drop or 'sag'. So higher voltage, proportional higher current therefore significantly more watts of power.

    • @mikemorgan4607
      @mikemorgan4607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Correct. Twice and many cells in parallel can supply twice the current.

  • @tlambertco
    @tlambertco ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Operator error during 1/1/2 Paddle bit holes. You need to look at the knots in the wood to really compare.

  • @Ollie-Chazz
    @Ollie-Chazz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tip for ya, do the chuck up tight then gently turn the chuck back and you feel it lock. Stops the bit sliping ❤️

    • @andrewgould9395
      @andrewgould9395 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don’t believe everything you see on the internet. This is false.

  • @helomaniacapex6170
    @helomaniacapex6170 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love how with the 1 inch paddle 12v he’s canted the whole time and it’s still digging that only makes willwakee look better

  • @jivdis1x
    @jivdis1x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6.2 lbs vs 3 lbs... I have both. I use the m12 drill and driver to mount boxes on to concrete block. Those stay on my tool belts but sometimes I need to drill a large 2 inch hole into concrete block. I would not carry around the m18 with 5ah battery on my tool belt. Use the correct size tool for the job.

  • @mroddydawg
    @mroddydawg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just bought an M 18 fuel combo kit with a hammer drill and a surge impact along with two batteries a 12 V and 18 V charger and a hard case offer like $220 or so.

    • @trailhead420
      @trailhead420 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Link to kit you speak of, home depot offering?

  • @IKINGFISH1213I
    @IKINGFISH1213I 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Perfect timing! Getting ready to snag some of these.

    • @HAXMAN
      @HAXMAN  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You won't be disappointed.

  • @tnbspotter5360
    @tnbspotter5360 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is that one guy that does fast sloppy work that his co-workers will have to fix later on.

  • @YoungWhizz38
    @YoungWhizz38 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I do a lot of cabinetry and fine carpentry and for those applications the M12 set has been amazing, I'm even able to get winter rusted lug nuts off the car with the impact gun.
    Obviously if you're in a more heavy duty type of trade then the M18 set would make more sense, both great tools though!

  • @michaelmoses4019
    @michaelmoses4019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I was gonna get upset that the bits were never put in the chucks right but he's missing 20% of his hand because of a chainsaw lol you get a pass

  • @IvanRossS
    @IvanRossS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love my M12 tools and will buy more !!! I never need to drill inch hole in 4X4 lol... and for lag screws I always pre-dill !!!! You can split wood without pre-drilling. And I use my m12 Stubby anyway.

  • @nikolayiliev3044
    @nikolayiliev3044 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good review. Little bit immature but still good. If you learnt to tighten the chuck in the future ,it will be great.

  • @brianlucas7482
    @brianlucas7482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I have both these sets, like yourself I started with the 12v Fuels and absolutely love them. For most of what I do they are more then powerful enough, however there was a few times where I was pushing them to and yes beyond there limits. So like yourself I upgraded to the 18volt set along with an 18v sawzall. Now I don't think there is a job I do that these tools can't handle.

  • @alfredoghost2306
    @alfredoghost2306 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whenever my dad gets mad enough at a project he just gets out the corded drill from the 80's. That thing can drive a 3" forstner through hardwood. As long as you can hold on😁.

  • @Anonymous..VQ3.5Lg35
    @Anonymous..VQ3.5Lg35 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally a comparison video! Looks like m18 is a beast

  • @stuartd9741
    @stuartd9741 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Interesting comparison.
    That 12 volt sucker pretty dam impressive compared to the 18v.
    Ah of the battery also helps if working on large projects.
    To me, the 12vs come into thier own on smaller limited space projects.
    Whereas the higher torque of the 18v whilst good on bigger stuff, can sometimes be too bulky into tight spaces.
    Another point to add.
    It does seem, if you worked a 12v like an 18v it may wear out quicker, and long term an 18v may last longer being ever so slightly under-worked compared to the 12v.
    Couple years ago had to build some wooden scaffolding to fix an elevated frozen sash window.
    Using a DeWalt 12v with 2ah battery constantly screwing 3" screws approx about 20/30 of them.
    Battery lasted 20 minutes.
    The top/end of the drill got so hot couldn't hold it even with gloves lol.
    Dugga Dugga!
    Team America; f.... Yeah

    • @johnussss
      @johnussss ปีที่แล้ว

      Xactly, and what many don't get!

  • @hawkins7331
    @hawkins7331 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the 18v set it's an impressive beast, to much of a beast for some jobs so just bought the 12v set for lighter/smaller jobs, arriving Thursday, I don't get excited about much but.....
    I GOT A NEW DRILL COMEING!!! 😃😃😃
    ❤ MILWAUKEE
    From South Wales pembs!

  • @siriosstar4789
    @siriosstar4789 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    12 volt driver / drills are great up to about a # 6 wood screw and then there just isn't enough torque to handle the larger diameter screws .
    Fortunately i convinced my wife that i needed both a twelve volt and an 18 . She actually didn't buy my argument but when i started to shake from new tool withdrawals she took pity on me and let me buy both .

    • @HAXMAN
      @HAXMAN  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂

  • @OrangeismyNewGreen
    @OrangeismyNewGreen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The 2 bigger bits were wrist twisters 😳😂, fun video Adam, can’t wait to see the upcoming projects 😉😉 keep them coming 👍🏻, have a great weekend 🙋🏼‍♂️

    • @HAXMAN
      @HAXMAN  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! You too!

  • @gbush1620
    @gbush1620 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For daily user, M18 is your choice.
    Being a non-daily user, I have a full set of M12 torque rachet, drill driver, impact gun for DIY mechanics. M12 Hammer drill will be my choice on top my M12 batteries and charger.
    Thanks for you guidance, always glove and safety glass.

  • @TheOriginalFreak
    @TheOriginalFreak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Anyone else notice the 12v 1/2 paddle test involved the 12v going straight into a knot in the 4x4 about 2/3s the way through and slowing...
    DEFINITELY not a professional test.
    That snark said, I really do like to see these little guy Vs Big Guy showdowns.

  • @zwmarr
    @zwmarr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hey Adam,
    Do you know the trick to tighten your chuck then back it off until it clicks to lock the chuck? May be helpful for these types of tests in the future. I love your channel. I spend my time watching usually with a huge smile. Keep it up.

    • @HAXMAN
      @HAXMAN  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can’t believe I didn’t know that. Thanks!

    • @kabal911
      @kabal911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow nice. Just tried this on my makita 18v.

    • @Meowface.
      @Meowface. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HAXMAN you hadn’t heard of it because it’s BS internet tales
      Backing it off only unlocks the chuck

    • @gianfrancofettuccini
      @gianfrancofettuccini ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Meowface.it’s literally one of the features of the drill. Turn back to lock. Dewalt does it too.

    • @Meowface.
      @Meowface. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gianfrancofettuccini nah… it literally doesn’t
      AvE did a good video on it, showing the design patents and showing why it’s actually unlocking it by turning it back
      The click is the locking mechanism releasing

  • @wesmccarley9845
    @wesmccarley9845 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anybody else feel like they were watching Bobby Dukes Art? I have enjoyed watching the Haxman!!

  • @JayNYOne
    @JayNYOne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don’t think I realized your name was Adam and I’ve been watching for a couple months now. I don’t know why I’m commenting about it, but it seemed….noteworthy.

  • @NPofficer
    @NPofficer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are my new favourite TH-camr 😂 I have so much to learn and your videos are really helpful

  • @raptureready9502
    @raptureready9502 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stop hating on him. As he stated. this is his wife's shop she is video taping him. Cheers from khazikstan

  • @AATreeService
    @AATreeService 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please, you’re killin me man. Tighten the chuck the correct way!!! Tighten it with the drill stopped.

  • @1hons1
    @1hons1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    YESSSSS!!!! Been waiting for someone to doing this!!!! 😞 but 4 months to late. I already bought the m12.

  • @otonielaburtobermejo4774
    @otonielaburtobermejo4774 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who doesn't like a clean hole 😌
    Awesome video 😁

  • @kylemm1995
    @kylemm1995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If you torque the chuck all the way tight, then back it off so the chuck itself feels like it popped into neutral that locks the bit in place and prevents the bit from breaking loose

    • @senjo31
      @senjo31 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even the so called pros don't know this technique

  • @slbrig2m
    @slbrig2m 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the m12 and the spade bit, I figured it was going to super struggle. Then when you got to the forstner bit Ive had 18volt drills that couldn't handle that in 1st gear.

  • @Its_Esoteric
    @Its_Esoteric ปีที่แล้ว

    Lost the paddle bit on the first pass… impressive Milwaukee!!!

  • @tru6803
    @tru6803 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Use the 6 amp battery on the M12...it makes a HUGE difference...its already been proven to as well 😉

    • @em4703
      @em4703 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea the 6Ah battery gives it a substantial boost in power over 2,3 or 4.

  • @Bryan-df7kc
    @Bryan-df7kc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Finally someone with a legit comparison! 👍

  • @liam.yurr357
    @liam.yurr357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Honestly i think the m12 has its place even on the job site i love my drill for tight spaces but it had its limits id never buy the impact i use my dewalt impact for those tasks but m12 does have a nice line of tools

    • @gwynbleiddroach2589
      @gwynbleiddroach2589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Almsot every electrician and maintenance man i know uses 12v. Me being in hvac/maintenance I also use 12v, so Ill have to agree they definitely have their place on the job site.

    • @traviswhitworth6506
      @traviswhitworth6506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gwynbleiddroach2589 the refrigerator repair man that came to my house today had the M12.

    • @hoanganhluong4242
      @hoanganhluong4242 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@traviswhitworth6506🎉🎉

  • @Sub_Commander
    @Sub_Commander ปีที่แล้ว

    Great reviews video,
    Thank you

  • @MR_G92
    @MR_G92 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the m12 fuel impact gun, impact driver and combi drill and they do exactly what I need

  • @АндрейОрешкин-п7л
    @АндрейОрешкин-п7л 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you, good test!

  • @krayzie281
    @krayzie281 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got my gen 3 m12 and it’s impressive

  • @johnbell1012
    @johnbell1012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I learned today that the M12 needs to be on speed 1 for larger bits.

  • @Polarzbek
    @Polarzbek 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good lord my wrists and arms hurt from watching you with those hole saws and paddle bits! Fun video! :)

  • @Mixwell1983
    @Mixwell1983 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With the impact ive found drastic difference even driving decl screws using a 2ah vs a 4ah. On the drill not soo much.
    The m12 fuels are what I grab now and I love em.. im not in the trades etc but they just feel less bulky than my Ridgid/Kobalt 18v counterparts

  • @austinpereira4829
    @austinpereira4829 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey man; great video but the m12 was on self tapper mode for a few tests.. if you has it on 3 would of been a different story

  • @marathonfreak67
    @marathonfreak67 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a bunch of M12 tools. And then the M18 came along and made them look, amateur. Both good sets of tools but just buy into both and be done with it. M12 for light duty. M18 for heavier-than-light duty.

  • @Mike-vt6is
    @Mike-vt6is ปีที่แล้ว

    I have burnt up 3 of the fuel 18v drills 2 of the brushless 18v impacts and 2 m12 drills but still have the same m12 fuel impact well built.also for some reason Milwaukee can’t keep a bit.

  • @mikeyd717
    @mikeyd717 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    John C. Reilly your hilarious. Almost had me bungling around with a tool review. If you ain't first you last. Shake and bake John. Love you movies.

  • @slimchancejw
    @slimchancejw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video!

  • @EvanKayExotics
    @EvanKayExotics ปีที่แล้ว

    I run a set of m18 fuel drivers/drills. The impact driver is awesome. The drill is very powerful but clunky and I've never liked the chuck. I this the m12's are good for about 80% of what I do, and I'm looking to add a set for myself. Very tempting package.

  • @F8lastcallcharger345
    @F8lastcallcharger345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love my 1/2” 18v impact. You remind me of the actor John C Reilly

    • @jordanlawson6132
      @jordanlawson6132 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes! Nailed it. A lot of guys say “dude looks like russel Crowe” I thought Jon c Reilly yeaaa!

  • @HnrPram
    @HnrPram ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing and lovely power tool... I have Milwaukee M12 FPD-0 (Asia version), the power is almost similar to Dewalt DCD7781... It's really small red devil👌🏼🤩

  • @buckanear6912
    @buckanear6912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh yeah, start off with the Robertson square drive head. The ultimate in screw driving technology! None of that “stupid star bit” shenanigans.

    • @fredberger3155
      @fredberger3155 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You must be Canadian like me . . . long live Robertson square drive, the best screw driving system ever invented!

  • @terry504able
    @terry504able 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Be sure to hand tighten the chucks please to prevent injury and bits flying out.

  • @Adrianyoutubing
    @Adrianyoutubing หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do the chuck up. Helps drilling no end.

  • @l00nybin
    @l00nybin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Having had wrist surgery for the type of twisting injury that you get by doing what you did with the paddle bits and not supporting your wrist... My wrist hurt again just watching you.
    Look up Triangular FibroCartilage Complex (TFCC) repair. You don't want to be in a cast for 3 months, trust me. Protect your wrists, man!

  • @luckyshooter8137
    @luckyshooter8137 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my personal opinion m12 drill is perfect for smaller jobs like finish or installation in construction and the m18 is for bigger jobs like rough construction

  • @pervizabdullayev7350
    @pervizabdullayev7350 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    very good thanks

  • @WoodApe100
    @WoodApe100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the M12's because they are less expensive and smaller and lighter. I can load up my tool box and my tool belt with m12 drills and impact and the batteries are much smaller and i have a bunch of them. M18 is great and sure more power ...but if I really need power then a plug in tool is the way to go for me.

  • @sladeoriginal
    @sladeoriginal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you're under an inch and/or its a tight space m12 is the go to.

  • @MotoMatt
    @MotoMatt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    John C Riley’s secret TH-cam channel.

  • @paulp.l.4869
    @paulp.l.4869 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've used M18 drills to mix cement.
    Full bags in buckets. A drill ran 24 bags of 66 lbs b before getting too hot.
    A wired 6Amp Ryobi just caught on fire mixing the water for the first cement bag...
    I wasn't even using brushless motors.

    • @HAXMAN
      @HAXMAN  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂

  • @paulromano4690
    @paulromano4690 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you roll the chuck back after being tightend, in each drill it will lock all bits into place

  • @marcoferreira226
    @marcoferreira226 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So if you want the M12 to be on par with a 5amp battery M18 you need to use the 6amp the watt hours are similar. 2.0 is 24 watt hour 4.0 47 watt hour the 6.0 72 watt hour. I own both systems and use the m12s more than m18. m18 4.0 vs M12 4.0 would be even match

  • @Atum_Ra
    @Atum_Ra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have the M18 Impact driver and the M18 Mid torque wrench along with a few other M18 things but I think the impact driver is my favorite tool ever.
    The M18 (non Fuel) one handed hacksaw is probably my 2nd most useful power tool.
    Pair it with some Diablo blades and I haven't found anything I can't cut with it and it gets into some tight spaces.

  • @TheRealPlato
    @TheRealPlato ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, helpful comparison

  • @REIVAJ089
    @REIVAJ089 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    M12 are amazing even if it's not the same gen are giving fight to the M18

  • @fl6stringer
    @fl6stringer ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm thinking you are the knot lol. I love my m12, I almost never need to use pneumatic to remove lugs or body bolts.

  • @thefrankperspective4247
    @thefrankperspective4247 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    lol, another comment in the archives. Looking around for M12 stuff; figures you have a video for it. My sons (10 and 7), are finally into woodworking, but an 18V Ryobi with a 4ah battery weighs about as much as they do. Time for compact/subcompact. Took the plunge and got an M12 kit (with bonus battery).

    • @HAXMAN
      @HAXMAN  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not my best work. 😄

    • @thefrankperspective4247
      @thefrankperspective4247 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HAXMAN - but edjumacational, which is the important thing. I mean, not a snowball’s chance in hell I’m letting my sons near bits that big (12 year old daughter, maybe; them, nooooo way), but good to know where the limits appear to be.

  • @not-a-raccoon
    @not-a-raccoon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the M12 fuel set for my job doing apartment maintenance. I love the things. The impact is just a beast. And the hammer drill function on the drill is handy as hell when you need it. It's not on par with the M18 for heavy duty tasks, but it'll do 75 percent of what the M18 will do.