This might be the worst MacBook I've ever bought...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 มี.ค. 2022
- After years of being very meticulous and getting very lucky buying cheap used Macs, I've finally struck out! This one is probably the worst MacBook ever, a truly terrible Mac that sucks in basically every way. Today I'll walk you through why the 2017 13 inch MacBook Pro, and this cheap MacBook in particular, are absolutely abysmal.
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Definitely took an L on this one
I mean... if you buy MacBooks of course you take an L!
Say hello to blatant scam RAM and storage price, and yet they are both unupgradable even in desktops.
That's unacceptable!
do you think the studio display was originally going to be the 27inch apple silicon Mac but they changed their mind late on? looking at the thickness, ports, speakers, webcam, holes which could've been used for cooling etc
Though the worst ever is stuff paired to logic boards like Touch ID.
And... M1 Macs fully disabling themselves if the SSD dies.
For that 2016... keyboard is garbage even when it works, and hardware is garbage too, for an expensive Pro device it's unacceptable!
Take it apart for parts when you buy one of your broken lots of stuff. You know thats what its good for.
It's a bad SMC chip. Get a donor board for the chip...
Maybe you should send it to Louis Rossmann as a sort of collaboration. I’m quite certain the board is saveable and it won’t be too expensive
Up!
"Theres nothing you can fuck up that I can't fix" One of my favorite Rossmann quotes lol
GMTA
Would love to see this collab lol
that's a good idea!
As bad as the performance on 2016 era MacBooks might’ve been, you can’t deny they look great
I prefer the unibodies... upgradability, proper cooling (except the fan curve but a software fixes it), and... yeah!
the trash can mac pro was also as good looking but also plagued with many issues! looks can be very decieving... you cannot turn a turd to gold no matter how much you polish it
I admire them in a weird way because I think this era of the Mac was the wake up call for Apple to abandon Intel since the balance between design and performance was no longer there like it was in the Unibody laptop era. The M1 Macbook Air and Pro are an amazing statement to end that era of design- as those designs used to constrain the usability, but Apple Silicon finally unleashed the performance users always wanted. Plus we still got good stuff out of this era like the amazing trackpad, touch bar if you were into that, and the improvement in USB C connectivity across the board.
I used to think that too. Till I was forced to use one and had such a nightmare of an experience that they actually look ugly to me now. In fact, I'm even turned off the look of Space Grey entirely, because it reminds me of that era of awful machines...
Thin usually means it's garbage. There is no way they fit proper cooling or even hardware. And yes, for your 1000+ dollars, you got an i5 6360U, which unsurprisingly gets outperformed by a 2009 Core 2 Quad that's worth less than 10 bucks today, and this will cook itself because of the horrible cooling combined with a stupid fan curve.
You get 8GB of DDR3 memory... yes, DDR3... in 2016, and that is soldered! You get that horrible keyboard, which even if it was reliable would still be horrible, and... you get a proprietary SSD, and it's only replaceable on the model without the Touch Bar... on the other one the SSD can't be replaced... and the Touch ID is paired to the logic board, so you can't swap it.
The prices for more RAM or storage are also a blatant scam!
Even if this was 100 dollars today, I would not buy it!
The slow speed might be a failed sensor reporting -126 degrees and the CPU being locked to 700mhz. This can also happen if communication with the battery doesn't fully work.
Exactly
You'd be hearing the fans going mad
@@Malc180s nope mine didn’t. The fan stayed normal. The only noticeable change was sloooooooow boot and login.
SMC chip could be damaged?
@@belugabruh9112 tried all the resets and flashing the SMC nothing like that really helped.
I tested with a first party battery and it worked fine.
Great video Luke, you are right about Apple Silicon Macs dropping in Value slowly. But you can pick up a M1 MacBook Air for around $600 now. I found one for $660 with 8GB of Ram and 256GB of storage two months ago on eBay. It still had 5 months Warranty on it as well with box, charger etc... Definitely worth every cent/penny!
I love how your comment got a scammer 😂
How do you find those super cheap listings?! I wish haha
@@SirPotatoJoeebay
Had this exact same machine with the exact same issues. After one year struggling with apple they gave me a new one. Apparently the issue was with the SSD.
I had a similar problem with my 2017 13" non touchbar MacBook Pro. The problem started a week after Apple replaced the swollen battery. I ended up replacing the ssd which solved the problem.
I remember having undiagnosable issues with both 2016 and 2017 Macbook Pros. Had to meticulously explain every detail to Authorized Repair who looked at me like I was crazy. Inconsistent wifi, inconsistent thunderbolt, system hangs under specific GPU loads, corrupted file exports. Replaced the motherboards and sold them off
I had always wanted a MacBook since its design always appealed to me, but man I am so glad I waited until M1 to buy into the mac ecosystem. I don't have a single complaint about my M1 Air and the horror stories I hear of my friends Intel MacBooks all the time REALLY makes me glad I waited.
Me too, It's my birthday today and I would like to treat myself with macbook M1 air 512 GB, 8 core, 8 GB Ram specs. From now on, I'm switching to Mac OS. Before, I couldn't afford i7 MacBooks. So I have waited almost 3-4 years to finally get hands on something that's worth the wait time.
you guys in usa have it easy to get apple products here in my country the price 1,5 higher cus no official apple store here. I want m1 too :( they say its really efficient laptops.
@@kevinpatel2468 why u don't choose the pro? I heard mba m1 doesn't have active colling system.
@@gilanggilang9859 Wait for Windows on ARM. Apple is a scam
Please call Louis Rossmann and collab on this MacBook. 😂
That would be a killer episode
The design is unbeatable though. I prefer it to the new 14 and 16 inch models.
No excuse
Yeah they have old plastic Macbook designs :(
Nah it’s too sharp
Lol
The thermals for the intel ones in this design suck though, but the M1 MBP in that design worked great
Great videos! Just like with crisps, I keep saying "okay, this will be the last one" ...and by the end "well, one more can't hurt, right?"
Keep them coming, Luke!
Love your channel and content!
Luke, I would be interested to know if this cursed laptop stabilizes when running from an external drive. Use Carbon Copy Cloner to copy the OS + everything to a Samsung T5 or similar and boot from that. If it runs stable then it's likely an SSD issue. Otherwise it sounds like maybe electrical short or overheating, have you tried MacsFanControl?
This was my first thought too. Replace the SSD and re-install the OS.
@@jameslee428 >2017 macbook
>"replace the SSD"
@@ps5hasnogames55 actually in the 2017 non touchbar are the very latest macbook pros (albeit a shit year) where you can actually replace the SSD.
Great video Luke. You are very honest and straightforward. I did take your advice and bought a early 2015 MacBook Pro 13 inch with the core i7 and 16 GB RAM. Needed a new battery but with help from iFixit I was able to replace the battery myself! I did note that when I replaced the battery that the SSD is replaceable on this model. Amazing! Keep up the good advice. (pst baking soda and water cleaned off the Apple scummy anti-reflective goop)
Man, Thank you for figuring this out. I thought i am only one who faced this issue and did the same thing that you suggested to get 2015 Model years ago.
My Macbook Pro 2014 had a fault where the display would freeze randomly, over time it got to the point where it would freeze minutes after boot, however the sound still worked indicating that the computer had not actually crashed etc.
I found that connecting an HDMI monitor would prevent this happening. Ended up selling it on eBay and the buyer was able to replace some display chip on it.
that MacBook has to have an issue with some type of power circuit that isn't tested on the diagnostic. could also be the reason for the battery drain
I had a 2017 non-touch bar MacBook Pro, which I bought in September 2018 for uni. In March 2021 I upgraded to the M1 MBP because my 2017 laptop was unusable. The battery lasted 2 hours at best, it would freeze with just microsoft word open, zoom and other similar applications would constantly crash (which wasn't great for online school), and it would become so hot it could double up as a hot water bottle! My M1 MBP is still, a year later, miles better than my 2017 MBP ever was. I don't think I've heard the fans once on this laptop, yet that was an hourly occurrence before - I can't believe they were the same price when I bought them.
Funnaly enough I did the same, so bought a 2017 non touch bar in early 2018 for uni but never experienced stuff like that, maybe I got lucky. But nevertheless currently thinking of upgrading
@@tobiasschmidt1662 no no you aren't lucky but they just wanna criticize stuff maybe it is true of what she said but I have one too funnily enough that I also bought it in 2018 its Perfect
Trade it in to Apple!! I got $190 for a 2012 13” and $200 for an original 12” MacBook. I know I could have gotten more on eBay but anyway, the main point is, with it appearing working at first glance, and being in good cosmetic shape, it has a good chance of passing the cursory inspection they do before (probably) shredding it, as Apple loves to do with any device they get back 😂
They refurbish them usually or recycle them
When you traded it in? They wouldn’t even give me an offer for my 13” 2012 mbp like a year ago (in the US)
Great advice. Apple will change haunted ssd and resell perfectly fine machine with much profit. They only wait for returns 😂
Hi Luke, I had a similar issue with a late 2013 retina MBP which would randomly freeze and then shut down. Sometimes it would turn back on, but mostly not. Turned out to be the AirPort card. I left it out by accident and the laptop worked perfectly (albeit without wi-fi or bluetooth). Bought another on eBay and it was fine.
Thank you for your video you answered a question I asked! Keep it up 👍
You should try sending it to Louis Rossmann, if it is a logic board issue, he has the schematics to diagnose and fix the issue.
He could make a video as well, so more publicity for you.
I was thinking the same.
The battery could be the issue for it crashing as I've had a couple macbooks that have done this. This was fixed with a new battery and also with 2016 and 2017 screens, I believe they made the screen cable that's connected to the board slightly too short, subsequently they stretch and break and I've had quite a few macbooks with this issue also.
I would like to see Mr. Rossman trying to diagnose and fix it. Also it would be great collaboration.
I was having the same problem with my previous 2017 non Touch Bar MacBook Pro 512GB. I bought it used for $950 and the guy said it is perfectly fine. The random shut down occurred a week after I bought the machine, and it continued randomly for around twice a week. I visited the Apple store for 4 times and the diagnosis turns out to be ok and of course they only offer me the option to replace the logic board. I was so frustrated and turns out sell it for less than half the price. I’ve heard of ppl saying it is a SSD issue tho I can never verify. What I am certain is I will NEVER buy a used MacBook.
Luke, I would suggest trying your luck with Louis with this laptop as well. Would be interesting to hear from Louis Rossmann about what the issue is as well in a second video
Yeah, I'll stick to my 2012 MBP. Very good machine, especially since upgrading to 16 gb ram, SSD and the improvement that made the most difference was going from Catalina to MX Linux. It is now lightning fast.
I have a 2012 13” MBP, pre-Retina with an optical drive. Still getting 5+ hours of battery life, the keyboard is rock solid, I upgraded the RAM myself and swapped the HD for an SSD. Remember the good old days.
This is not a 1M channel yet but as a tech-Apple fan this is one of my favorite channels even compared to those with 1M+ subscribers! Keep the good work
Luke, send the logicboard to Paul Daniels / Louis Rossmann, it would be interesting to see what’s wrong with it!
I agree 100% with you. My 2011 13" MBP was ok, but I wanted more battery life and also a bigger screen. So I got a 2015" 15" MBP with 2.8ghz quad-core i7 processor and 512gb SSD, which is a great machine (it even has a new battery changed by Apple) and it will last until the M1 MBP hit the used market for under $1000.
The 1:12 slick styrofoam thumb garbage off table hide.
NICE. NIIIIICE 🤣
Hey Luke! I own a business here in Pittsburgh called Mount Lebanon Computer and Technology. I fix MacBooks and PCs. I had a similar issue on a MacBook. A customer came to me with a MacBook of the same year that would randomly freeze. I found that re-balling new ram on to the logic board fixed the issue.
I have a 2017 non-touchbar MacBook Pro. It will get very got and the fan will randomly spin up to full speed when doing just simple tasks like internet browsing. Also the screen is starting to discolor a little around the edges and corners. Still use it almost every day tho.
My MacBook pro 2017 also spin up the fan like hell.
With those model, the 2017 touchbar and non touch bar Mac, most of the time that "kind" of isues when it freezes and reboots, not turning on, recognizes then not charging battery, trackpad not cliking and I am sure at 90% it is the ISL9239 on the motherboard. I fixed one Mac with similar issue by changing the ISL9239, it is a BGA chip. It controls pretty much the main power line for the Mac. It could also be a sensor issue, around the ISL9239.
Watching this on my perfectly working mid 2014 MacBook Pro. As always, great video, Luke!
PS Could you link the music you're using in your videos? Thanks.
I still have a 2012 13 inch macbook pro that I upgraded to 8GB of RAM and an SSD. For being a dual core intel-based laptop from a decade ago, the thing is still surprisingly responsive once you get it booting from an SSD. It's a shame Apple lost their way for a period of time, but at least they've finally moved past the age of crappy Macbooks with the M1 series.
I had a MB Pro 2017 with TouchBar and it was a nightmare. I decided to go for desktop, thus bought a Mac mini M1 with a Studio Display. I’m confident that this setup will be problemless.
My Mid 2012 have the same problem as this, It's driving me nuts even I try to run a different OS directly without bootcamp and still random freeze and crash exactly like that, freeze screen and then followed with some kind of glitch and then restart.
After trying to find the culprit, I found a forum post about someone PC who have the same issues as my MacBook and he fix it by replacing the Ram module, I decide to buy some DDR3 and I change the Ram with different module and it's running fine for 8 years until it's decide not to turn on anymore on 2020.
Maybe the culprit is on the Ram, but as we know, we can't replace or upgrade the Ram on the macbooks since 2013.
Thanks for the interesting comment on Apple Silicon Macs used prices in the near future. Even the lowliest M1 MacBook Air will be a great used buy. Suggestion: Can you do a video on used 27" iMacs. Now that Apple has discontinued the 27" iMac, the used values of the more recent models might not drop that much. It's really frustrating because I was waiting for a 27" Apple Silicon iMac but the Mac Studio and Studio display seem to be it...
I had some weirdness like this on my 2015 MacBook Pro. Apple said it was the battery even though it didn't make sense logically. They replaced the battery and all issues went away. I think it is something about the voltage fluctuations from premature deterioration, not capacity. Give it a try! You can replace the battery. I have faith in you.
I had exactly the same issue with one of my 2015 MBP13. I replaced (not me - in the shop) the main board 3 times. Since the last one it works like a charm. 2.7GHz it was.
The most frustrating is that it was ALWAYS ok when I took it to the shop. ;-)
I heard something about MacBooks from that age having problems with the ribbon cable that connects the screen. I believe it was too short and breaks after opening and closing it a bunch of times and eventually the backlight becomes weaker
I feel like a component on the pcb failed causing it to short at random. Which would both explain freeze battery drain and the refusal to boot. Maybe it's even ppbus itself
I have MacBook Air 2017 I preferred this model as at that time newer models keyboards were causing issues, mba 2017 is perfect I use it for school work, minecraft,some video editing, for listening songs,for movies
I would recommend using a thermal camera to see if there are any overheating components. If there are you could replace them yourself cheap hopfully
I owned this same exact model and can confirm the performance was atrocious and the battery drain issue was so aggravating.
Using a 16” M1 Max MacBook and it’s night and day.
I was think of doing the same thing! I’m buying my first MacBook (Late-2013 13.3” model) until the M1 MacBook prices go down. Can’t wait to experience the connectivity of the Mac with iOS!
I've had pretty much the exact same issues on the 2018 13" MacBook Pro. Crap keyboard, splotchy display, slow performance, insane heat, horrible battery life, random crashes and battery emptying overnight. Thankfully it's a work device, so it's not my money.
@Luke Miani Which MacBook would you suggest to a University student?
My Nephew had been using an old 2011 MacBook Air that recently stopped working. He often thinks that laptops with a soldered SSD is not reliable. Do you think this statement stays true with Apple new MacBooks?
Nice Luke! interesting &entertaining
I immediately had to check if this is the 2017 13" macbook pro. It was my first work laptop, and while I didn't have such awful problems with it, its performance was pretty horrid.
Interesting. I had an iMac Retina 21.5” 2017 with Radeon Pro 560, awesome machine.. but from times to times it just got frozen the same way Luke described. And I was never able to say what kind of tasks I was doing right before the freezes happened, they were random. That scared me.
I have a 2016, and I would love to pawn it off on someone but I have had to have the Battery replaced from swelling, the butterfly keyboard replaced as well. The battery lasts 5 hrs and It randomly shuts off once a week. With Covid I never take it anywhere, its docked 99% of the time. If I could sell it for a decent amount for a better machine I would.
Sounds like what I was going through with my iMac late 2014, it turned out to be the ram was bad! I replaced with new ram all 32 at once it is fine . The ram gone wacky and eating power and random crashes, weird reboots, sudden freezing.etc…..
I have the 15inch version .. same "orange splotchy LCD" issue. From everything I've researched,.. that orange splotchyness happens when pressure is applied to the screen. Happens to me because I keep it in a Backpack with other things pressing up against it. If I take it out to use it,. after an hour or so the blotchyness goes away as the screen warms up and works great.
Put the logic Board in the oven for some time - maybe there are some broken solder joints which only disturbing the device when the device is running or so. I don't know. ;) Or maybe the cooling is damaged so that it is running to hot and throtteling.
Sound like the kernel is corrupted or one of capacitors on the board is about to go out for good. I would format the computer completely and do a fresh internet recovery. If that doesn’t fix most of the issue it is a capacitor that is about to go out.
Some of the issues you are explaining is because I did an Internet Recovery on a slow internet connection. Which in turn corrupted the kernel. I was about to sell my computer, before I figured it out. I had these issue on a 2020 MacBook Pro
it may be because of some faulty component, especially power section. may be a bad soldered capacitor or a bad resistor whose value vary. if this laptops logic board is of no use, try hot airing the power section with some flux applied. clean afterwards with CTC and try again. this may or may not fix the issue. atleast it's worth a try.
Dual Core anything from 2009 to 2020 is a bad time.
I recently got rid of my 2017 13” Macbook Pro for the 2015 15” Pro. Such a difference! The 2017 one would sound like a jet engine even from just opening Spotify, the keyboard was an absolute mess with keys sticking down on the daily. Obviously with the 15” now being seven years old, it’s not the fastest thing in the world but man is far, far more reliable than the 2017 one. Hoping to get through university with this one and then maybe I’ll look into getting a Mac with Apple silicon…
I have a 2017 15" macbook that is also haunted. I suspect the SSD is failing. Progress bar on startup hardly moves!
Thanks for the insight.
Sounds just like my iMac. It freezes, it opens random apps. When typing the lag time between striking a character and when it appears on screen can be anywhere from immediate to ten seconds later. When you type at 75 wpm it gets quite frustrating.
Your only hope for this one is to break the butterfly and have to get it repaired so many times that apple might just upgrade you to a newer one w/out a terrible keyboard that also happens to bypass the problems with this model
I have a question, what would be the best older Mac you would recommend using in 2022? I don’t use or need a computer, just want something for occasional usage, browsing the web, youtube, paperwork etc.
Have you tried doing a thorough check of the RAM chips? I've owned a computer in the past that was working but it showed similar problems like the ones you described. It turned out that one of the RAM upgrades had one corrupt chip and after I replaced it, all my problems were solved.
They're soldered to the Logic Board.
@@alienrefugee51 But they can still be bad. The problems look exactly like bad RAM.
@@alienrefugee51 Because they are soldered on, you can’t replace them
@@dereinegreg yes you can if you have a soldering station
@@alienrefugee51 you can reflow them , usually it will help, no replacement is needed
Went through film school with this exact configuration lol, first computer I bought myself.
try turning off all the power saving feathers for the battery and for the power adapater but before doing that load catalina or big sur on it , keep monterey off of it .. then let us know what happens, it could also be a ram problem when ram goes faulty it causes all kinds of problems and flaky ram can cause some of the problmes you are getting and its true when its running fine at the time of testing it wont show the ram as faulty
1. Disconnect adapter. 2. Open bottom and disconnect battery. Connect adapter. It will boot without an issue. When you reconnect the battery, it will show it's charging, but it's a bad battery and will not hold a charge. Ignore the stats on it.
so I have a 2017 15inch MacBook Pro. I have had repaired it like 4-5 times. and 4 times out of it it was in the first year of use. The repair included full replacement of top case part of the body - including keyboard, speakers, unibody and all other things. The first thing was died left speaker. Then right speaker, then keyboard and then keyboard again. This is just 1st year. And this is just a Touch Bar model. As far as I knew at this point the models without touch bar were much more stable in that areas and many my friends didnt have any problems.
I got a Mid 2014 15 Retina with the Intel graphics. It's by far not the fastest computer I've used but with an upgraded SSD and new battery this thing is more then good for everything I use it for. It doesn't even get hot like the dedicated GPU ones do.
I have the same problem with my MacBook Air (early 2020). sometimes if I m watching content on Netflix or TH-cam and when I close my MacBook to pick a call even for 10 secs, it skips to another video or episode when I open my screen again and sometimes the screen freezes for 5 secs randomly
I got a bad machines from apple as well but the genius run the diagnostics tool and didn't detected any problem. All third party programs show the SSD is way slower than normal. My problems was a slow machine and battery was draining way to fast. Its a 2015 MacBook 12" and I still have it because I'm barely using it nowadays. I would love to update but there is no light weight machine apple offers anymore.
My MacBook display also has the splotchy issue, like some areas are more blue than others… it’s a 2018 model too
For curiosity sake I’d love to see you analyzing the mobo with an infrared to see if any chip is heating up when the ghosts decide to appear.
2:59 I GOT AN AD IMMIDIATELY AFTER YOU FINISHED THAT STATEMENT LOLLL
It is so entertaining to watch your frustration 😂
I have had an issue with my 2017 MacBook Air where everything freezes and the screen stays on even when the laptop is closed but I replaced the thermal paste and it never had that problem again. (I am in the process of ordering a new 14 inch MacBook Pro)
I still have and love my 2015 13" MacBook Pro with 16GB RAM/256GB SSD/512GB MicroSD Card. It's an i5 and it's not a custom build. I bought it from Apple directly 1 day before they ceased sale of them upon releasing the Touch Bar MacBook Pro. I read some horror stories then and certainly couldn't forego my USB-A ports for 4x USB-C. The Mac to this day works flawlessly, never have any system issues, battery is still awesome. The Mac is running on Catalina. I'm not going any higher. This software version may not be 100% perfect but I don't like the look of Big Sur or Monterey. The best MacOS IMO would be Snow Leopard. As for iPhones. I have pretty much every model from the 3GS and above. I have stopped at iPhone SE 2nd Gen. I am satisfied with it and it's Dual Line capabilities, battery life is good, camera does the job. Not interested in getting a phone that costs the same price as a computer!
has your macbook gotten any slower over the years? if so is it enough to be an issue?
I recently purchased a base model MacBook Air M1 with AppleCare+ (good until Dec of 2023) for $650. It's only really crime is being gold. I put a Fishskyn on it and love it so much!!
Ive heard SSD issues and Sensor issues on these macbooks, id recommend looking at those options
I still have a 2016 13inch MBP and I still love it. I plan on upgrading this fall to an M2 MacBook, air or pro.
My 2018 macbook pro was cursed like this, after 3 months of battling with it, I returned it, and used the Australian Consumer Law to get a refund - basically it was not fit for purpose. A laptop should be able to launch zoom and word without bombing out. I kept my store credit (I was happ with that) and got the macbook air m1, what a difference! :)
Love my 2017 i7 MBP (not as much as my new M1) and am watching on the intel MBP right now. I just can't sell/trade this for the $400 CDN they are selling for. I'd rather have it as a backup and run it into the ground. Thankfully, I haven't had any of the issues you've mentioned. Appreciate the legacy machine videos!
Based on some repair guys' videos, this could be due to a CPU/SouthBridge/EC failure. The CPU is not totally failing but the working condition is not consistently met. It is worthy to re-install the CPU and see what happened.
I am still using a Mid 2014 Macbook Pro 15” Retina 2.5ghz model and I still love it. Works flawlessly just took it to Apple to get the battery replaced
I have a 2013 MacBook Pro and it still runs decently, I’ve replaced the battery and a blown speaker but lasting nearly 10 years is pretty good
I’m still using my haunted mid 2010 17” MacBook Pro at work, yes it’s painfully slow to do something and yes it needs a new battery. But the haunting stopped when I disabled hibernate on power. It’s been working perfectly for a while now. I mainly use it to test networking, VLANs and tunnels of all kind like IPSEC, OpenVPN and WireGuard. So still after about 12 years it has a purpose 😀
Correction, it’s not slow for the tests that I’m doing but today I thought that it might be a good time to update brew, that took more than two hours 😱
Sound advice about 2016 2017 Tec MacBook pros but am I misunderstanding something here Mr.Miani?How are the M1 Air and Pro MacBooks going to come down in price and be a bargain and at the same time hold their value? Stretchinomics?
The problem with older M1s is that as components fail as far as I know they cant be replaced.
Almost went with one of these, after watching this guy I made the best choice in my life and bought a tricked out retina.
Waiting for those M1’s to drop in a few years. Until then me and my Retina just chilling.
I am working now in a MacBook Pro Retina "mid-2014" and work fine... I will wait for the next M2 to change it... Oh, also I bought a screen protector in 2016, and still attached with a good color of the screen.
I think that the new Apple silicon will not be repairable because the CPU, the RAM, the SSD, and the logic board are made together... But if they work so well as my iPod Touch second generation that still working and using all days... that will not be my concern.
I have a 2017 like this but without Touch Bar. I had to change the top case 2 times and now I have problems with blinking folder when computer wakes up. In Brazil these things are VERY expensive, so I'm waiting the opportunity to buy a M1 Macbook :(
I've got that one, it was my daily driver and its really poor, to the point I actually wish I kept my original MBP. It kernel panics all the Time(yes I have wiped it and still kernel panics) and craps out if the thing even thinks about doing anything remotely taxing. The only redeeming feature was that I could upgrade the ssd from 128gb to 256gb. Thats why I've went M1 iPad Pro and away to buy a M1 mini for my video editing/music production.
Very interesting. I had a problem with my 2019 16” MacBook Pro i7 intel. Bluetooth connection problems and fan reving up during game play. Until one day the motherboard died when just over a year old. Got it replaced under two year warranty. All good now. At least mine died definitely not behaving like your cursed one. But wish I had waited and got M1 MacBook Pro
Sounds like a crack in the motherboard - bad ram trace. If you flex the chassis of the laptop when it’s working and it freezes, you’ll know you have a ram related problem. RAM is soldered - DOH!
I also had this issue with the surface series, crashes on the tile menu. Sometimes it makes me enter the recovery key. I gave up on it forever.
Random question: where did you get the light in the background on the right?