You mean what Disney does to everything it touches? Seriously though, this is the perfect way to describe it. They take something people already loved as is and tear it down out of spite, relying on nostalgia to draw people in, and shouting at anyone who complains.
Perhaps if Ms. Zegler rewatched the original, she'd notice that Snow White manages to maintain her kind, trusting nature and dignity despite the abuse she suffers at the hand of her stepmother, overcome her immense fears about being abandoned in the middle of the woods and calm herself down when her (perfectly valid) emotions get the best of her, and then not only befriend a group of men who are very different from her, but establish herself as the respected and valued authority figure among them, encouraging them to be better versions of themselves and bringing genuine joy into their lives. She doesn't demean or belittle the people around her in order to make herself appear strong; she IS strong, in a quiet, gentle way, without the audience or other characters ever having to be directly told that she is.
Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, for all eternity, never ending.
Snow White's strength came from her kindness. She was poor and lonely but she kept her spirit up singing and enjoying life, she had that kind of strength not many people have. Her being soft and nice was why she was so loved by everyone, even the animals. She manages to win over the huntsman, the dwarfs and everyone around. Humility is not a weakness, it can be a virtue. This actress could have learned from that.
@@donaldb.9995 Thank you, don't worry, I got it. It was just helpful to me. As a non native english speaker I wouldn't have noticed if it wasn't for your comment so I appreciate it.
Agreed. It promises to be a train wreck. Hopefully, Disney will lose $100 million or more and take the hint. I'm not sure they will though. Seems like with their losses lately they just double down.
I just wanted it to be about love. The recent men hating women,women hating men,made everything so toxic. That things being about love is dying 😂. I don't care who save who but I really miss the concept of " love overcomes everything"
Yes, she says that a man won't save her, yet she dreams of being the leader she knows she can be, and the one her father (a man) told her should could become if she was all those things. I mean, maybe she would have never figured it out herself without daddy telling her what she can be. Remember, they are aiming at your children here. They are counting on young couples with young children taking them to see this moving without ever having to see or understand the original story.
The problem is she focused on the negative. Every interview she says how awful the old movie was, not considering people who likes the old movie. She should focus on the positive thing in the new movie without roasting old one. Plus in the Old movie the prince saving her is just a detail, she managed to escape the hunter killing her, she manager to survive on her own, she managed to live with the Seven dwarfs and make them admire her, she also helped them and worked in order to be accepted there. That sounds pretty badass and independent woman to me, while still being feminine.
Really she didn’t even escape the huntsman, the huntsman spared her because she was a kind soul. When she found the dwarves’ cottage she says to the animals that led her there she can offer to cook and clean for them in exchange for shelter and she made good on her offer. Out of all the dwarves Grumpy was the last one to warm up to her but he was the one leading the chase after the queen, even when they knew what the queen was capable of. They even tried to kick Snow out because they feared the queen’s wrath, but thanks to Snow’s caring and kind personality they overcame their fear. Finally one detail I find gets overlooked is that for most of her life Snow was treated as a housemaid, even her stepmother the queen. Yet she remained the cheerful, romantic girl she is throughout the movie.
Seriously, if you have seen the movie and have two brain cells you realize it isn't all about Prince Charming, he does the magic kiss thing at the end and happily ever after, but the interest of the movie lies in Snow White and the dwarves and the stepmother. That the story is framed by her love interest is important as a framework but it doesn't determine the characters and what's interesting and compelling about them. It's just story illiteracy to think that way.
Disney didn’t write the story, this is an old fairytale from the 1600’s or so. Yes Disney’s movie was a classic retelling of a very old story. It’s not up to anyone to decide this classic tale needs changing. And as usual, why? If you want a medieval tale of a strong and powerful princess, then write you one! And quit pretending this has anything to do with Snow White
Oh, they don't care. They've been trying for years now to bury Disney himself and all he's done because it's not good for "modern" Disney, just like Marvel is doing with Stan Lee. If they could snap their fingers and change the company name just like Twitter did, they absolutely would.
Walt Disney? Pah, what did *he* know. privileged white man that he was? Come to think of it, if Disney's so deeply and utterly ashamed of everything that came before the era of fem-extremism, why don't they stop making money off these horrible, misogynistic, transphobic, racist, homophobic, ableist, anti-birthing-person flicks, take them off the shelves and stop having them available on their streaming platform?
Modern women.. Always complaining about living a life of endless unearned advantages.. And their solution is always to give them more unearned advantages..
Female narcissists have to paint themselves as victims otherwise people pay more attention to victims than them. Male narcissists don't do the whole victimhood thing because it doesn't work for men - society sees nothing more pathetic than a male victim. "Man up" all the feminists would say. Male narcissists will go the other way and lie about how great they have it so they become enviable. What's scary about the culture now is most of these women aren't born with narcissistic personality disorders. It's not in their DNA, it's just encouraged. They're being trained to be narcissists.
This sentence is a perfect encapsulation of modern audiences oriented Disney suicidal run. I fix this for you: This sentence is a perfect encapsulation of modern audiences oriented left-green-woke suicidal run. They ALL do this. Annheuser-Busch(Budlight),Target, Disney,Ford, Blizzard etc. Its not just the movie-genre its ALL of them.
"It's dated when it comes to things like women in power"....while the original movie was about women in power...the evil queen and Snow later becoming queen. The prince wasn't even the focus of the original and he had very few scenes, was barely in the movie. What are they freaking talking about? 😂😂
@@LillyMichaelson637the fact the prince is supposed to arrive and save the girl is the "disgusting idea" leave aside the fact the dwarfs killed the evil Queen and they changed the really ending
As a mother who raised 2 kids all by herself since they were toddlers....I must say there is nothing wrong with a Prince Charming and I’m sick of being told how we are only strong women if we do things on our own. I’m glad we have more choices in life than previous years, but we don’t have to be alone karate chopping people to be someone.
Ewho said u have to raise them alone? Wherreh exactly u hear that ? But if ppl want to raise them alone, and think about it as strong, that is their choice
I am 69 years old. I saw Snow White in 1962. I have just watched it for the second time, after all the intervening years. It is a wonderful movie. It is a historical treasure. What Disney is doing to it is a cultural war crime.
@@thomashancock7441 If they could get their way, they may well want to make it vanish and solely stream the new replacement media to their vapid masses. But they can't. It's still cultural vandalism even if it doesn't quite get to the 'cultural war crime' level.
I have stated what they're doing looks like watching Germans walking out of French museums stealing art, statues and other treasures. Just ransacked like common pillaging
Judge her all you want but when Snow White is running in the forest and all the scary faces appeared, that scared me as a kid, the whole scene where the Queen transforms herself is also scary. And the last scene when the dwarfs are chasing her and she falls to her death and the vultures look at each other and fly to eat her, my 5 year old self was shaking!
@@the-berries-and-cream-dude thanks for your permission, I shall continue to do so. Almost everything and anything unknown scares people when they're children, it is quite redundant in saying that as an adult. If that is still her takeaway from the movie NOW, then once again, it says so much about her. I was scared of the first ghost in chains scene in Mickey's Christmas Caroll as a kid, that certainly wouldn't be worth mentioning as an adult.
Snow White was already a strong women. She got away from her stepmother and she found kindness, love from 7 great friends that valued her. She was incredibly thankful so She took care of their house for them while they were working. Strong women can be incredibly thankful and generous too! She went through hell at home still manage to find live in her heart for others. That right there says everything.
Not just strong, a leader too. That's the irony of this whole thing, Snow White is actually a pretty modern story, except for the kiss in the end. It's too iconic scene to change, but can be fixed easily by giving them a little more history than just one meeting. If their first scene shows an already mature (secret) relationship, then the kiss is fine. Oh, and the queen is also a strong female character. Most of the plot is driven by the female characters, the males have mostly passive roles.
@@sidnotvicious8442 Kissing the corpse of a girl he barely knows? I think there are issues with that. It's not super bad, but it would easy to fix. It's probably worse that they just fall in love and get married without knowing anything about each other, just because one is pretty and the other is a prince. Again, it's an easy fix, just give a few hints that they've known each other for a bit longer.
@@andrasbiro3007 If there was some girl lying there comatose, and the only way to bring them around was to have a prince kiss her gently on the lips, I think her loved ones would handle that.
@@TheDoctor394 Yes, but nobody knew at the time. It's a bit of a weakness of the movie actually. Not just ethically, but logically too. A glass coffin is not exactly usual, it only makes sense because the plot needs the prince to kiss her long after she was declared dead.
Hearing the actress openly state she refused to watch the original movie for years, demanding extra pay for dressing up, and calling the prince a stalker says everything we need to know about her and the movie she's in.
Most people would kill to get paid a few millions dollars to stand around in a dress. Yet she tries to paint it as some arduous ordeal she had to endure, so "deserves" even more money. Entitled, spoiled child.
Instead of re-examining her attitude, Rachel is already preparing her media narrative as a survivor of cyber bullying and will go on talk shows that allow her to explore her victimhood.
Ah yes, the extremely popular and realistic feminine hero character that has absolutely no flaws, overcomes absolutely no challenges and the only thing she ever had to do was believe in herself.
Snow White in the 1937 movie IS a strong female character. She's a young girl who needs protection from an evil queen, but rather being all "woe is me, everyone save me!" And then lounging around being waited on hand and foot, she actually wants to earn her keep and help better the lives of the people who are saving her. She uses her knowledge and abilities to help those who do things for her that she can't do by herself. That's real strength, not just being able to effortlessly overcome all challenges with ease without any help. To be fair though, for a young kid, her running through the forest is a terrifying scene.
Amazing how her desire to EARN her keep is now seen as her being taken advantage of since the dwarves didn’t first try to help her process her trauma. Well, some people process by being empowered to do the things they’re good at instead of being told no no, don’t do anything meaningful to contribute and feel a sense of value when your value is entirely in you breathing.
Who cares if she said “woe is me everyone save me“ she’s 14 she can’t do everything and we all need help sometimes but she was able to support and be grateful for those seven dwarves that did save her life and did take her and that’s what makes her a great character she’s pure.
The transformation scene is also terrifying, and I also would fast-forward it on my vhs player. But that just makes it effective and the animators deserves all the respect for it, not disdain because you as a viewer are a p*ssy.
Exactly, that's it. People nowadays don't seem to know a lot of Grimm's fairy tales - Snow White is one of their spunkier heroines. In many tales, a girl will simply lie down to be killed, sacrificed or mutilated (fairy tales are not actually kiddie stories, did you know?), just because she's such a sweet and innocent girl. When Snow White realizes the huntsman is going to kill her, she fights tooth and nail for her life - first she softens him up by crying, then she runs off into the wilderness, then she seeks shelter and finds a safe place to stay where she can put her skills to use and recover from living in a hostile home. That's a pretty good array of skills for a teenager, whether in a fairy tale or in real life.
Disney is doing a damn good job of tanking ALL of their movies before their releases. Keep it up, Disney! The great Hollywood reset is inevitable at this point, right? Please?
This is the Great Reset. This is the Neo-Marxist takeover of this aspect of our culture. This is not going to stop. The trans-agenda trained people working there have been brainwashed into this for forty years and now they have power. This is just the beginning of the destruction. Think: it is everywhere - Target, Bud Lite, Nike, Victoria Secret, the M-She-U, in the schools, in our institutions. The Alphabet People Flag Parades are VICTORY Parades. Settle in for much, much more of this cultural devastation. Cheers!
Your assessment of Zegler is spot on! "Not a passing of the torch, it's a torching of the past." Brilliant! How could Disney be so eager to destroy it's beloved history? The problem with feeding a politically correct, 'Woke,' 'Monster,' is that eventually, the monster will eat you too!
The original film is an artistic masterpiece. You could watch the entire movie on mute and still be completely absorbed by the breathtaking animation. And likewise you could listen to it with your eyes closed and have your soul touched by the music. What a legacy.
In the original, a woman is the heroine, a woman is also the villain. The two human male characters adore her, even the one who was supposed to kill her, and the dwarves exist to serve her, protect her, and tell her how awesome she is. You would think they would love that, and they still found something wrong with it. You go girls.
Indeed. The Evil Queen is already a leader totally in touch with her own power. Did anyone notice? I guess we needed an Snow White: Evil Queen in Training film.
Yep. And by 2037 all of her films will be forgotten and the 100 year old Snow White will still be a classic. The only Rachel people will remember is Rachel from Friends.
The male characters in the original Snow White portrayed the sort of traits that we would all want for men of today. The Huntsman, commanding by the Queen to kill Snow White, instead let her live. The dwarves took her in and kept her as safe as they could. The Prince revived her from certain death with a kiss of love. Disney today sucks.
The fact Zegler keeps referring to the original as a "cartoon" shows she is dripping with disdain for it. Walt took a huge leap of faith and the movie was truly groundbreaking for its time. She is trying to put Snow White on the level of a Popeye or Bugs Bunny short and that is just wrong. She's earned a permanent spot on the D-list.
lets be honest does anyone even know who she is and what films she's been in. she's already a D-list actor and gal gadot is a B tier actor at best. neither can act to save their lives
Just like a shallow minded woke simpleton. . . she thinks that just because cartoons are done in animation, then all animations must therefore be cartoons.
My thoughts exactly. It really irks me how she’s attempting to degrade what is considered a timeless animated movie by slapping a “cartoon” tag on it. In general, I don’t trust or socialize with people that don’t have the brain cells to appreciate and differentiate one format from the other.
The thing is, the old Snow White was a girl boss already. She basically took over a house of 7 men, flipped it, bossed them around a bit, made new rules (washing hands etc.) yet was still sweet and feminine.
So, a girl boss is somebody who does all your chores (and those of your six buddies) but gets you to wash your hands in a "sweetly and feminine" way. I think you might have a wonderful future in Florida politics right now.
@@Julia-lk8jn What?? Did she do ALL the chores and make all the things the dwarves made? I highly doubt that. But I also note that you have nothing to say about her making new rules and ordering the men around. So your comment is completely one sided. In fact I think you might have a future living in San Francisco in a tent with your other political leftist cronies right now.
@@Julia-lk8jndo you like the original Disney animated Snow White movie? I think it was the first oficial animated Disney movie that was not strictly a musical and it put Disney on map and its still great.
You've so nailed it: these movies are more focused on pointing out the details of the original movies that according to the current trend can be seen as outdated than actually offering something better. In the end, all they offer is something that ends up being just self-righteous.
I gotta say, the original Snow White looks stunning even now, almost 90 years later. Beautiful colors, beautiful backgrounds, just beautiful all the way around. There’s a feeling of heft and weight to the animation which I believe contributes to its timelessness.
it is truly sad that this level of hand drawn animation will never come back (there's several reasons for that but the most important one is that it's not a craft being taught anymore).
you gotta watch those disney docs form that era! so incredible what they did for the time and budget in like 1939. Its insane how impressive a huma feat it is and was. People have no idea what a risk that was, it nearly doomed Disney. They went out on a limb. It was very very very expensive, many worked without pay for overtime obviously thats animation. when people saw it theaters it was like seeing aliens. Imagine showing taht level of colour in cartoon to people who'd only seen steamboat willie if tehy were lucky. then they see all that. Its a marvelous pice of human achievement and it says a lot about us as humans imo. it was like animation's moon landing. before we did they said it was undoable.
@@carljohan9265Im really glad that unique animation is starting to come back recent years, whether it be new tmnt, spider verse franchise, the bad guys, mitchells vs machines, the last wish puss in boots over these same looking disney cgi barf fests
There already is a strong female character in the original story... The evil Queen! She doesn't want love, she just wants to be the leader she knows she can be. And she certainly isn't rescued by a prince. She is just trying to get rid of the little upstart. 😂
Can't believe this isn't a bigger talking point, it literally directly counters Rachel's notions that the film's "dated" for lacking strong female characters! The fact that it took a literal intervention from the sky to stop her speaks to her power in and of itself. It's a far more effective testament of power than whatever 'modern' ideas of boring infallibility and unlikeable characterisations most modern Hollywood writers seem to be cultishly churning out these days.
Yes. The most chilling part of the film is where she kicks the bucket at a skeleton that one can only presume belonged to the previous king, going, "Thirsty?".
In the original, Snow WAS a very strong character. She persevered despite horrific loss, found help, inspired others, and even TURNED a man who was sent to kill her. The evil queen was a perfect example of the dangers of narcissism and the corruption of power. The love story was simple but very effective, the characters (all of them) had some form of arc, even if some were a bit more shallow than others. And all of it accomplished with cel animation and in 83 minutes. There is a reason that it is credited as the foundation of Disney. Like almost all remakes, this one will fall far short and, hopefully, will be quickly consigned to the dustbin of history.
AND, that cell animation has more individual layers than anyone has done, including Disney, before OR since. It's a masterwork of Animation. It deserves respect for that ALONE. It took THOUSANDS of original, hand-drawn cells, from individual artists, to make Snow White... what a way to treat your Magnum Opus, Disney...
To me, Snow White has never been the "fairest of them all" purely based on how she looks -- her heart of gold, positivity and child-like naivete are the reasons why everyone (even animals) loves her. That's not something that the evil step mother can ever replicate, let alone overtake. Rachel Zegler does not possess any of the abovementioned qualities, and it shows -- even if she acts brilliantly. Heck, I would even say Gal Gadot feels more Snow White, and Rachel more evil step mother, age difference aside. I'm sad that another fond childhood memory is going to be butchered.
The narcissism and hubris of youth is shining through her words. Too young to understand how wrong she is, but also old enough to have learned all the things the world wanted her to learn up until now. She has yet to challenge any of her preconceived notions and her cocktail of ignorance is strong and will last for many years. Once it wears off, she will look back on these days in horror.
Of course she calls it stalking because she thinks social media/phones/tinder has existed since the dawn of time. They had no other way of staying in touch. I doubt she even knows how to send a letter.
Last year, I literally had to teach a summer intern how to send a letter. She was fresh out of high school and had never in her life sent anything through the mail. She couldn't even figure out how to fold the paper to fit in the envelope without being shown how. That's a failure to learn geometry to any useful degree, not merely being unfamiliar with "analog" technology. I've never been so saddened by the experiential gap between my generation an the ones coming up behind me - before or since.
Well.. a) Because love means you need someone else, and that's a big no-no for modern feminists b) Because strong family ties is bad for authoritarian governements => Someone might not rebel to save himself, but he/she might do it to save their child or parent. In short, the more miserable and alone you are, the better docile consumer you become.
@@goofygrandlouis6296what’s also bad for authoritarian governments are people who defy tradition in general for both ideals of individualism and common wealth.
Girls aren’t allowed to fall in love anymore, become a mother, a wife, a homemaker, a creator of the next generation. They all have to grow up to become self absorbed childless girl boss spinsters. Well according to Disney that is.
Snow White is a priceless piece of art that revolutionized the way animation was done. It's entirely hand drawn and colored, frame by frame. Shitting on it is like shitting on Wizard of Oz or Citizen Kane. Any actor worth their salt would know better, but also if Disney is going in this direction, any actor worth their salt would know not take this trainwreck of a part. Disney has completely lost their roots, and I'm waiting for them to give this same treatment to Mickey Mouse himself at this point. Like turn Minney into some kind of boss babe. It's a shameless money grab that's unappealing, uncreative, and preachy to anyone outside of the Hollywood bubble. People watch entertainment to escape reality, not to have it shoved in their faces.
Remember the Mickey Mouse movie where he, Donald and Goofy were playing the Three Musketeers and Minnie and Daisy had the damsel in distress roles? With Minnie almost exacerbating the bubbly, lovey-dovey princess trope? Bet it wouldn't fly today.
Like one wise TH-camr said: "you are not stupid because you are a woman. You are stupid because you are stupid". Those words are easily applicable to Rachel Zegler.
Don't you miss the days when a cool, liberated frontwoman could sing a song titled 'stupid girl' and trust the audience and media to be sufficiently mature and discriminating to know how it was meant, and would never dream of having to even 'clarify', let alone hand-wring or apologize?
100 years from now, the original Snow White movie will still be viewed as one of the greatest pieces of animation ever made. The live action movie will be lucky to be a footnote.
A message to all those “strong female characters”. In movies. And real life. If you need to tell someone you’re a “strong female character”? You’re not one.
So true a REAL WOMAN doesn't need to prove anything to appease this modern way of thinking, it must be so confusing for them to be part of the new world order that they don't need a man etc there's nothing wrong with dreaming a prince will ride up on his noble steed and sweep you off your feet especially for young girls , just seems the agenda these days is not allow children to be children
Her face is just so condescending as he asks her the question. She's under the impression that bravado and arrogance are the same thing as strength of character and true conviction. She doesn't care about this character, or this film, only pushing an agenda she thinks makes her look like a #girlboss. In reality she comes across as an insecure child playing dress up and throwing a temper tantrum because people aren't wowed by her. She also seems the type of mean girl who would bully someone like Snow White for being "trad" all the while proclaiming that she's standing up and speaking for all women to live the life they choose.
I think Tangled was the last truly great Disney fairy tale adaptation. It made changes to the original story so that it wasn’t just a copy + paste, but they also left a lot of the elements that were crucial to its identity in. It had a female protagonist who could fight for herself, but understood that sometimes she needed help too. More specifically, if it weren’t for someone else’s efforts, she would’ve willingly stayed locked up in the tower, a prisoner of her illegitimate mother forever. The male character actually had character along with a redemption arc, despite being secondary to the story. He also served as comic relief most of the time on top of all this. Most secondary characters these days are doomed to have only one defining quality, which doesn’t really change throughout the story. He also actually has a motivation to follow the protagonist around and into danger rather than just because he really, really likes her. The antagonist was also female, but she wasn’t all powerful, unlike a lot of modern female characters. She realized physical strength wasn’t her forte, so she relied more on her wit and manipulative tendencies to achieve her goals. In other words, all of the characters felt believable, to an extent, because they all had strengths and weaknesses. But more importantly, they *recognized* those, and used them to their advantage. The characters actually *used* their brains instead of relying on one character to be the smarts while the rest are just meat-heads waiting to be defeated. What I don’t understand is why Disney fails to grasp this concept. No-one hates female protagonists or antagonists. We just hate the ones that don’t feel like actual people. It’s a mark of lazy writing, and we feel ripped-off by it.
not only that but it also adapted and pushed the boundaries in animation techniques, you know what disney is known for!, rather than just shove a camera at a pretty face
Zegler thinks that the movie having men helping a young lady threatened by her stepmother that tries to kill her is a problem. Like, literally all the men in the movie are on Snow White's side. The hunter even sacrificed his life and dignity in order to save Snow White, because the queen stated that if he failed there would be punishment. And the dwarfs literally tried to fight the evil queen, risking their lives to avenge Snow White's "death". This proofs how perverted is the mind of a feminist.
Fr Hollywood seems so anti-men now that it makes even a tomboy like me disappointed. I was laughed at for saying that there are still good men because my dad did his best to save me from my abusive mom. My bf of 5 years now was also the first to make me feel unconditional love, allowing me to do whatever I wanted without judgement. I could be all hormonal during my period and say I want to "kill" him to his face (ofc I don't mean it), and he wouldn't budge.
“it's no longer 1937 [...], she's not gonna be dreaming about true love” Welp. It's official ladies and gentlemen. Never thought I'd hear anyone _openly_ say that love is an outdated concept that has no place in modern world, but here we have it.
Well, if you think about it, the idea of true love suddenly appearing the save you is silly and naive. Most people have to work at it to make it work. But no harm in wishing for love.
@bui3415 it's naive? Why don't people realize these are fantasy stories? True and perfect love at first sight is a fantasy that makes a nice story. That's why fairy tales go back thousands of years. I really want to understand when and why people decided they were supposed to be some kind of instruction manual for living life and therefore decided that they must be harmful. Stories are meant to be enjoyed. And the way they remove love interests from the majority of modern princess stories is not very enjoyable nor does it seem especially wise. Like remember girls, career aspirations are more important than loving relationships. That sounds healthy
My generation (30+ millennials) are already regretting the push of career over family. So many people I know worked instead of settling down to have kids, and are now discovering it is hard building relationships and having children at this stage.
You said it my friend. I ended up having to stop talking to a girl once due to her saying "there's no such thing as love, you have to look at a relationship like a business partnership, how much will you bring to the house, what jobs have you worked," I was shook not even gonna lie, luckily for me I grew up with a sensible sister and I myself found my wife and yes Love is an actual thing
I used to be woke. I was constantly getting triggered. I protested everything that offended me, and demanded it all be cancelled. Finally I grew out of it, and went to preschool.
Lmao the fact that the actress for Snow Fucking White, that super minor and unimportant character in The Story of Snow White, said she only watched the original ONCE and didn’t like it is just….perfect. Her obvious disdain for the source material, her unapologetic arrogance in clearly believing that what they’ve produced is superior; I couldn’t think of a better way to encapsulate the genuine hatred and unbridled loathing that Hollywood feels for their audiences.
She should get together with the writers from The Witcher, with their combined disdain for the source material for their own projects they would get along famously.
@@monal3544she was scared and just watched it once, is wgat she really said 1:17 But if you see her other comments... it's obvious she didn't like it.
She'll accuse him of assault for waking her up from her coma, claiming she didn't consent to being alive. And it will ruin his life, he'll move into a one bedroom efficiency with his dog, eventually self delete, and she'll be a boss queen.
German girl here! In preschool in Halloween (named different here) I always went as Snow White, with the yellow-blue dress my mum made herself. It is a beautiful, mid-European Fairytale and she's insulting our culture. So sad man, so sad ... everyone wants a better world and keeping on fighting fire with fire...
I gotta know where that "Shite, shite, shite" scene was from that looks hilarious. This seemed like the best high like to low comment ratio to get me the best chance of an answer. Don't let me down
Geez her facial expressions when she talks actually says more about her than the words she speaks. She truly does believe shes of greater intelligence than anyone around her
Fs should Please stop parasiting. Make your own. No one stopped you. No one oppressed you. No one ever did. It is you who couldn't do it. Stop barging into established male spaces then shriek on about how you are the victim when we are in the same room to get this favor and that. Stop welfare and affirmative action. Metoo, gender paygab, glass ceiling, Period vacation. Do all you want on your own space instead of nagging at men to do it for you. Welfare yourselves with your own taxes only. Gender segregation just like the old days. You can only have rights to the level of responsibility you take. Otherwise it is parasitism and you end up leeching at others who are responsible.
She is no different than any millenial and zoomer i have ever met, when it comes to history and western popular culture. I just hope that they would shut their pieholes about anything that was created before the year 2000.
'greatest works of art in history' Now now... let's keep it in the category of animated films or maybe limit the category to 20th century (even then, there is so much more greater art out there - at least in Europe)
The original Snow White was a Strong female character. She was kind, thoughtful, industrious, idealistic but practical. She was a character of a person you would want to meet in real life. She doesn't deserve mockery and neither does her prince who rescued her from a coma. The dwarfs were hard working, good hearted and open minded. They learned lessons and grew into better versions of themselves. The movie was celebrated because the characters were wonderful.
The original film was made in 1937 but the story takes place in the 1500s. Why does Disney not see how out of place it is to put a story of women's empowerment into a film that took place in the 1500's? Maybe we can do a story on Abraham Lincoln as well and have Boot assassinated him with a high powered rifle instead.Why does all of Disney's films seem to not understand context?
"It's not a passing of the torch but a torching of the past" is such an inspired quote I'd be surprised if it doesn't catch on as a legit literary quote in future.
Also just noticing the profile pic, if youre a performing artist like me, keep fighting the good fight and bringin the real stuff directly to the people. I wont let culture die im going to keep growing it ✊
He prob thought it was funny. BUT NO ACTUALLY SHE WASN'T JOKING BECAUSE NOT ONLY DOES SHE WANT TO REWRITE SNOW WHITE AS A LEADER WITH A VOICE SHE WANTS ALL HER COSTARS TO DIEEE A PAINFUL DEATH, ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE MEN. Do I sound like a conservative now?
Says the original snow white is extremely dated when it comes to women in power yet the villain is an all powerful queen who does magic. Didn't realize the queen was actually a man
There’s something especially appalling about someone wanting to invalidate previous generation’s accomplishments, while at the same time, use those accomplishments for their own benefit. A real shameless lack of honor.
Well, it's actually a great analogy for modern-day feminism ! They want the perks of "male leadership"... But without the hard-work and duties that go with it. Notice that female writers often times write "Mary-Sue's", who have everything handed to them, without actually being tried. Quite telling !
You were way too easy on her and Gadot. Also, since she has repeatedly stated, confirmed, then escalated her claims, she is not simply stating what she's been told, she clearly believes what she is spewing 💀
Yeah. Rachel Z is a "believer". A zealous cult member. She's 100% in on all the ridiculous things she's saying, and you can really see her conviction. If anything she's holding back. A naive but entitled, spoiled, rich 22 year old with enough anger in them to burn the whole world, and I bet her life has been as smooth as butter in reality.
I agree, I think he's being diplomatic and nice, but the girl is garbage, you can tell by her irritating tone she truly believes the stupidity of her words. She's just another dumb, stupid, modern girl who knows nothing about the world, hates men and tradition and thinks her toxic world view is actually the way to move forward. She's trash, and so is Gal Gadot.
She’s a child, though, really, and is not as responsible for her thoughts as the people putting that bs into her head are. I think he’s trying to be fair because she’s an indoctrinated little girl who hasn’t had any hardship to give her wisdom so her culpability for her ignorance is reduced.
@@lostandfound5145 sorry but that is not an excuse, yes, she has been indoctrinated, but she's 22, she's not a child anymore, she can vote, she has her opinion and worldview, indoctrinated or not she's still dangerous and toxic, she is in a position where she can spread her rotten ideology to other girls and society at large, so no, she doesn't get a pass.
@@lostandfound5145 Bullshit! A child? She looks old enough to know better to me. She knows what she's doing, and indoctrination is not a good enough excuse, since many did not fall for such tripe in the past. It does show that they should not have any say whatsoever in public life though. It certainly proves that.
85 years ago doesn’t mean “exactly dated” it means “timeless Classic” Snow White is a German fairytale from the 1500s WTF it wasn’t “dated” in 1937 despite being 400+ years old…. It was “timeless Classic” still is!
But stories get improved over time. Society progresses and stories need to be updated over time to reflect that. You wouldn't want to wear a dress made in 1937. As Shakespeare said, "Stories are like apps. You need the latest updates."
While the tale probably has origins in European literature from the early modern age the version we know as Snow White was written down by the brothers grimm in 1812 and edited in the 1850's to be more child friendly.
WTF is wrong with her dreaming about love?! I'm a woman, btw. I'm so tired of the narrative that women have to be "strong and independent" and can't fall in love. Women can be strong and still fall in love. They can still be strong and yet rely on a man sometimes. I hate this new narrative being pushed.
Yes, we'll said. I've often thought how pandering it is to tell women they are wrong to want to indulge in old fashioned romance tropes. It's funny too that nobody sees that the rescue fantasy goes both ways typically. Usually the male character is struggling to find a truly good women. They are men of high social standing who are fed up with the inauthenticity of their surroundings and a lack of purpose. Typically it's about finding someone who will help them to be fair and just and keep them grounded. The idea being, without purpose and guidance, they know they would become cruel and resentful. It's really a two way hero fantasy. Both are "damsels in distress" until they rescue each other. Cheesy, but timeless...
The women screaming about how love is weakness and how all women have to be strong and independent...are the ones that will be found half-eaten by their 42 cats.
It encourages harmful ideas like heteronormativity and raising a family - or god forbid - motherhood. We dont want little girls getting crazy ideas like that.
Snow White was once considered such a sacred movie by the Walt Disney Company that it was the last movie to receive a home video release. The attitudes of the executives (Roy Disney and his allies) who resisted it was that Snow White was so iconic as a landmark moment in the history of not just animated cinema but ALL cinema that the very act of plugging it into a VCR as just another mindless product to be consumed was antithesis to everything Walt created it to be - a legitimization of the art form of animation. They believed Snow White had to be properly enjoyed as an artistic masterpiece, in a theater, with the right frame of mind. Of course this view wasn't going to hold out forever against the money left on the table or the inevitable antiquated feel of the movie compared to masterpieces of the Disney Renaissance which perfected the techniques Snow White first attempted. But hearing the things people involved in a Snow White remake are saying about the movie that literally made the Walt Disney Company what it is... I just don't know what they expect to happen next.
With regard to the home video thing, I remember my grandpa buying that for us and coming over all excited and telling us that now WE could see the first film he and his brothers had watched in a theatre as children. I can still picture, in my mind, my brothers and I sitting with him and grandma and my parents and Snow White playing on the TV.
If this flops, Disney should can all of their future remakes effective immediately. I heard they canceled The Hunchback of Notre Dame remake, which is good, but the ones still in the wings should be done away with, too. The animated "One that Started it All" should be the live-action "One that Stopped it All". By that, end the remakes, not the animated films.
Its kind of smoothbrained to s**t on the movie that made Disney the animation giant. Without Snow White, she wouldn't be directing a woke film that s**ts on Snow White.
I think Rachel Zeglar has done us all an unintentional favor by warning us all how bad that movie is. We won’t make the mistake of seeing that train wreck.
They did pretty well with Beauty and the Beast as well as Cinderella, in my opinion. It still felt like the original animated versions for the most part.
I mean we don't really need her to tell us that Disney don't know how to make good movies anymore, right now we can really ignore EACH movie they release. But yeah, she's confirming all that with what she says...it's crazy how 100 years later today's "Disney" is as far away from (Walt) Disney and those movies as it can get. oO
That doesn’t matter, it’s still going to be watched by people and influence the future into that direction. The general audience needs to see how terrible this is going to be BEFORE they buy movie tickets
I can’t believe that a Disney film would tank its film by pushing THE MESSAGE and alienating any fan base that it could’ve built to pander to people who won’t watch it
Whats weird to me is that you'd think disney would treat snow white with a certain level of reverence. It is the reason the company got off the ground after all.
But it doesn't represent the trendy values of today. I mean.. it has dwarves... a female lead who doesn't punch a white man in the face even once... and a dashing prince who is clearly not meeting the required example of today's Weak Managed Male. No wonder they want to erase it from history.. imagine if the teens of today actually watched it. They'd be SO confused about why a man was necessary to help the Strong White Female... it doesn't make sense....
The people that run Disney now hate ol' Walt and everything he stood for, and so it's not surprising they wouldn't respect what he created. And he knew who they were and called them out a few times, rumor has it.
“It’s not a passing of the torch, it’s a torching of the past” was so immaculately said. It had chiasmus, vivid imagery, and a sharp message packed into just one sentence.
Revolution is only possible when you've convinced enough people that the old ways that got them where they are, are actually the problem. The communists in Vietnam and China expressly destroyed and rewrote their own history, otherwise they would never have succeeded. Thankfully enough survived where it wasn't all lost, but much of it was.
Snow White was the world's first ever full length animated feature and Walt Disney was rightfully very proud of it. So I'm sad they are allowing her to mock it like she is.
@@Babyblue115the point of the og story is not about snow white being a leader. its about preserverance and keep being kind through hard times, about dreaming of true love and meeting them. Snow white by no mean a bystander lol she preserve, survive, and still take care those around her even she herself is going through abuse. If they wanna make a movie about leadership make a new fairytale or movie, dont change/ruin a classic that have been loved by many.
The irony that J.K. Rowling was a feminist, and despite this she endured the urge to put a self insert all capable women, instead told a classic story about a "chosen one" boy and a classic bad guy.
Didn't the Huntsman movie do that with her still having a Prince she loved? That was actually an entertaining film, but it had Snow White as a strong leader already. How is this film doing anything new?
At what point is this Ship of Theseus no longer Snow White? She doesn't need a prince so "Someday My Prince Will Come" and climax of true love's kiss is out. Snow White doesn't have skin white as Snow. There are seven random individuals, not 7 dwarves. She's a boss girl, not a nurturing mother role. What's left?
OK, so she doesn't have skin as white as snow, and the evil queen is far fairer than her, and there aren't seven dwarves, and it sounds like there will be no love story. But, uh, maybe there will still be an apple in the movie?
Many women today have become brainwashed into believing that the true definition of “feminism” and advocating for women’s rights is degrading and hating on men. And this chick is only further pushing that narrative.
Well, the Barbie film actually turned out pretty good (and not so man hating, after all, considering subtleties of script, allegory, etc) But I don't think, anything, can save this film...
You make some good points, and the upcoming "strong female character" Snow White does sound completely awful. But even OG Snow White isn't timeless. It's just excellent and for that reason, much more enduring than other works. But let's not forget the 1937 film was itself a "modernized" reworking of much older source material, changed in ways that the producers thought 1937 audiences would approve of (e.g. the Queen was SW's biological mother; she's downgraded to step-mother, which is more palette-able; Grimm's Queen was cannibalistic; "wake her with a kiss" never happened in the Grimm OG, it was invented entirely.) So bits of 1937 SW do feel a bit dated, and that's OK, it's still a masterpiece we can enjoy.
What’s more insulting about Rachel’s opinion of Snow White is that millions of women who love Snow White would take the role in a heartbeat, and she’s just acting if it’s a chore. She should be grateful she’s not only being payed to do this, but now she’s the face of Disney’s very first film in a century. Young girls aspire to become their Disney princesses and Rachel has gaslit everyone to think being kind and gentle is weak. Kindness is strong in so many ways.
Paid* Also, brainwashing doesn't equal gaslighting. Gaslighting means trying to convincing someone they are crazy or to at least question their sanity. An actual example of gaslighting: Person A does something in front of Person B. Person B: Hey, why'd you do that? Person A: Do what? You're imagining things. Person B: No, I'm not. Person A: You sure about that? Maybe you should see a psychiatrist. Person B: Maybe you're right . . . No hate meant, I just see people misuse words all the time.
The irony is that Disney’s new age heroines are beginning to act and sound like the villains of the story itself. And they seriously expect us to believe Gal Gadot to be jealous of her looks?
Lol, but I have to say Lily Collins is a class act by all appearances and seems to be worthy of representing a Disney Princess. Emma Watson “Hermione” gave some misguided feminist soapbox speeches, but still seems grounded and likable. Rachel, on the other hand? Wowww, holy sh*t. Dumping on the original movie like it’s r@cist or something?? What a spoiled generation!
As someone who was obsessed with Snow White as a child. (Seriously, I had about eight different versions in book form and about six on video!) Rachel lacks the most fundamental point of the story and the majority of fairytales.... The Prince is the Reward not the saviour. Snow White is the hero of the story. She's the one who escapes and carves out a life for herself. She could have lain down and waited to be rescued but she didn't! She rolls up her sleeves and gets things done. This spoilt princess who never dirtied her hands on anything before. (The Disney film was a pioneer in coloured animation so they had to do a quick visual to convey the Queen hating Snow White. Hence the Cinderella start which is in no other version.) Okay, she gets tricked about 3 times but what do you expect from a sheltered naive 14 year old! I'm getting really sick of female characters only being considered strong if they kick arse and "rescue themselves." People and situations can't always be punched away or "Girl bossed" through. There are many different types of strength in the world (Which the old Disney cartoons absolutely covered. The female characters aren't wilting wallflowers! It's actually the very opposite of inclusive!
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The original Snow White is honestly a very admirable character. She expects nothing for free, she works hard, she faces an uncertain future with optimism and singing, and she is kind and gentle and always believes better days are coming. Many of her qualities were exactly what Great Depression audiences wanted and needed to see. And I would say we need to see it today too. But today, our society is unable to recognize strength unless it comes in the form of killing bad guys and leading armies into battle. How sad.
I think most, or at least a good portion, of society are still completely normal and can recognize it. It seems like the ones pushing the agenda that are the problem, not the general public. EVERY video I've seen covering liberal nonsense the comment section is 95% opposed to it.
She also gets raped in the very old version. I do admire that kind of passiveness in women, I mean she was in a coma, but still! The new one will never be able to live up 2 that.
@madhurgupta854omg, no don't you know.that.most fairy tales's original version are pretty brutal? They are meant to be cautionary tales, like what young girls shouldn't do. Those days don't have the filter modern-day people have.
I remember watching a documentary on how they made the original movie. Walt Disney and the team were incredibly invested and it was revolutionary. They did not believe you could watch such a long animation film since it was not something they did back in the day. Many people said it would fail and Disney was trembling at the premier and it was amazing.He planned it for years and it was his baby. It was his great work that changed the history of film and animation. I remeber part of the story was him and the team saying Snow White might get hurt when she runs from the huntsman and later at the forrest, and then laughing seeing how they were soo invested they were starting to beleive she was real. He would be sad watching what they did and who they Casted for his master film, how they are tearing it apart.
I mean, most people put a lot of effort into the movies/books/paintings etc. they create. That does not make them good. So I see the point you are trying to make, but I think it's an irrelevant one to this discussion. And I'm saying this as somebody, who thinks this movie is going to be awful. Still your point is irrelevant.
Yeah...... This is exactly what people said to them when they made the original snow white. They said that they were disrespectful of the story and nothing could make the story better!
@@MsBuchnerd Correct, just because a lot of effort goes into art doesn't make it good, but in this case, the original Snow White IS GOOD! Not only that, but her point is that Walt put a lot a risk to bring the movie to life. Weather it was good or not, doesn't matter. He would still be disgusted at what this remake is turning into.
On the topic of "strong female leads," you don't need to look further than any of the girls in a Studio Ghibli film. Take Chihiro from Spirited Away. She was definitely a strong and brave girl, but in the film, we see her get scared and anxious (and who wouldn't be? She's in the spirit world where her parents were turned into pigs). Those moments of vulnerability made the audience want her to succeed because we've ALL been afraid; and so when she emerges victorious, we feel satisfaction. Instead, Disney thinks strong women aren't human.
Yes, we'll said. I was thinking something similar rewatching the first two alien movies recently. What makes Ripley such a great protagonist is that she is motivated by fear, relies on her gut and convictions and doesn't allow herself to identify as a victim. It's not about her being the most strong and capable or having a big ego. To me it's why Vasquez is a joke; she thinks empowerment is being a caricature of masculinity. And while Ripley is scared the whole time, she is more brave than any of them because she'll take charge every opportunity that arises.
@@prehistoricturtlesaurus5309 I wouldn't call Vasquez a joke. She's a typical Marine. Notice, however, that when Ripley essentially takes command, Vasquez acknowledges her leadership and accepts her as an equal--earlier, she had thought Ripley was the load they would have to take care of. She stays behind to cover the retreat, and when she goes out (admittedly with Gorman's help), she sacrifices her own life to buy time for the others. Vasquez may not have been very feminine, but she was a tough female character who didn't have to be turned into a Mary Sue to be that.
@PolarizedMechs Honestly, I don't think any of them acted like typical marines. They acted like grunts. No professionalism, no respect for severity. They were practically comic relief. Think of Vasquez rolling her eyes when Ripley is telling them about her experience with the Xenomorphs or Hudson becoming an emotional burden after the first attack. They are mostly goofballs and shallow characters. Vasquez, to me, symbolizes the way modern feminism has basically become about embodying your perceived oppressor. Most women in the military I've known are not particularly different than civilian women and don't tend to act like an arrogant jock. Yes, she took Ripley seriously eventually, but only after they became a rattled mess because they were acting like overconfident teenage boys. Again, Ripley was a hero because she wasn't driven by ego. Honestly, I felt that Aliens had three well written characters: Ripley, Newt and Bishop. I think the biggest failing of an otherwise great film is that the marines (especially, ones in a military oriented future) act like impulsive, flippant teenagers.
"...It's an 85-year old movie..." Yes dear it is. It's an 85-year old movie that literally changed the face of modern film and shook up the studio system forever.
I can't believe this stupid brat was allowed to be in a movie. Without Snow White, regardless what you think of it, NOTHING would have come afterwards. It's THE movie which changed the industry.
I’m fairly certain it was a desperate move as well from the, at the time, “toddler” studio since they were having money issues or something like that at the moment. The beautiful and horrifying thing about desperation is that sometimes the most wonderful things happen when you’re left with no choice but to either rage against the dying light or go softly into that silent night.
I still remember the times when Snow White and fairy tales in general were about friendship and people having fun, and not about power struggles over leadership. They've managed to suck all the fun and joy out of these stories.
Zeglers Snow White sounds like fanfiction and she’ll look like a teenager in cosplay - which isn’t a good for someone born in 2001. But she’s a stereotypical Gen Z so 😂. Idgaf about her skin color. I care that she embodies the literal opposite of what Snow White’s character is. She sneers at traditional femininity, which tells me she’s not really a feminist at all; she’s a faux feminist. Snow White is a teenage girl that wants to escape an abusive environment and live in peace with her future love. She’s brave af because the huntsman gave her an opportunity to escape, and she took it. She carved out her own life. That’s a huge thing for an abuse victim.
In snow white, the original version, the evil witch was forced to dance in red-hot iron shoes until she died. Fairy tales are not nice, they are warnings for children. But Disney left everything out he didn't like, it was for american kids. He kept more or less to the original story and made a fortune. Now the wokies throw out everything else and just steal the name to push their fascist ideas on everybody. And insult all europeans while they are at it. Same with Cleopatra and the Little mermaid, pissing on our heritage and stealing it, then blackwashing it .
This is a girl who grew up in an upper middle class family going to expensive private schools, and then immediately upon graduating high school started getting big roles in high budget movies. I have no idea how, her dad must have had connections or something. The point is this is a young person who’s never experienced the real world in any capacity after living an incredibly sheltered life and coming into a ton of wealth at an extremely young age. I think her perspective on life is pretty fucked as a result. I mean how could you expect someone in such a privileged situation to have any real wisdom at all.
The new era of Disney feels like a teenager throwing a tantrum and doing everything their parent disapproves of, not realizing they're making themselves miserable.
@@leastbased well yea, it's not our money they're losing. But the fairytales they're corrupting have a cultural significance. You could also tear down the Eifeltower and replace it with a giant dildo and then ask people why they're so mad, it's just a building.
@@leastbased Many 40 year olds have children and have every right to be disappointed with what is now supposed to be their children's entertainment, seeing how far disney has fallen. Kids deserve better.
Rachel Zegler says it all: The reason why all of those remakes turn into franchise killing flops is not that the audiences don‘t like these characters, movies and series anymore. The reason is that the people who are running these shows nowadays don‘t like them. So one reason is Rachel Zegler, another Kathleen Kennedy.
The current crop of creators see past works as a platform to prop up their own ‘superior’ versions, relying on brand recognition and existing fans to support their works. But as past works have shown, fans do not appreciate people butchering their favourites for their own egos.
To me it seems Kathleen is doing what is expected out of her. Hence not fired even after multiple duds. Its the higher execs that need to change. The ones that convince investors with shiny presentation to get their money.
I don’t think they were her opinions though. I think Disney actually gave her those sentences to remember. They sound rehearsed, memorised. Disney’s marketing department actually gave her those words. They actually think this angle would sell more tickets.
Usually, when the studios change everything i ask myself "why didn't they call it something else" and my common sense inner voice usually answers "because money" but here i ask again... why not call it something else? I mean, usually when they change everything, they say some BS like "it's a diffetent medium" or "it wouldn't work in this day and age" or whatever which, while definitely not a great justification, at leat keep the apperances that they are trying something new and still have respect for the original piece but here, the actress is just about calling the original movie a piece of shit in public statements without the studio pressing her to retract. So in thid particular case, there's no ambiguity: the studio or at least the team behind this movie hate The original Snow White movie (and probably the original fairy tale too). We have a snow white that doesn't have fair skin, that doesn't care for love and is all about becoming queen, the dwarves are dwarves and don't work the mines and will probably have a much lesser role as to keep the focus on Snow White. Also, If there's no prince to save Snow Whites i guess she won't fall for the evil queen tricks either or save herself. So at this point, what is even left of the original story. Why not call it "The Princess and the Bandits" or something? Some people might have enjoy this more than a Snow White remake that hate to be a Snow White remake.
“Torching the past instead of passing the torch.”
Like Mao communists.
Welcome to 2023 that all we do here
MauLer's original quote "This isn't a passing of the torch. It's a torching of the past", but I don't know if you're referring to something else.
Many such cases...
Yes, we watched the video as well.
Imagine redoing an entire film, taking out everything that made it wholesome and timeless, and turning it into a souless, mean spirited cash grab.
These people are basically evil. They want to make it appear normal so, yeah, anything good has to go so everyone degenerates into them.
You mean what Disney does to everything it touches? Seriously though, this is the perfect way to describe it. They take something people already loved as is and tear it down out of spite, relying on nostalgia to draw people in, and shouting at anyone who complains.
@@dbsommers1definitely agree. Like Mauler said, "it's not passing the torch, it's torching the past"
Soulless and mean spirited yes, but we still have to confirm how much cash it grabs.
@@elLooto lol well two out of three is still pretty bad 😅
Perhaps if Ms. Zegler rewatched the original, she'd notice that Snow White manages to maintain her kind, trusting nature and dignity despite the abuse she suffers at the hand of her stepmother, overcome her immense fears about being abandoned in the middle of the woods and calm herself down when her (perfectly valid) emotions get the best of her, and then not only befriend a group of men who are very different from her, but establish herself as the respected and valued authority figure among them, encouraging them to be better versions of themselves and bringing genuine joy into their lives. She doesn't demean or belittle the people around her in order to make herself appear strong; she IS strong, in a quiet, gentle way, without the audience or other characters ever having to be directly told that she is.
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Very well said
I can tell you watched the movie
Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, for all eternity, never ending.
Reading this comment gave me very feel good chills.
Snow White's strength came from her kindness. She was poor and lonely but she kept her spirit up singing and enjoying life, she had that kind of strength not many people have. Her being soft and nice was why she was so loved by everyone, even the animals. She manages to win over the huntsman, the dwarfs and everyone around. Humility is not a weakness, it can be a virtue. This actress could have learned from that.
Well said
@@donaldb.9995 Oh sorry english is not my first language, thanks for the correction
Great comment!
@@donaldb.9995 Thank you, don't worry, I got it. It was just helpful to me. As a non native english speaker I wouldn't have noticed if it wasn't for your comment so I appreciate it.
nowadays strong equals dictator
Let me sum up. This movie has :
- No Snow White
- No dwarves
- No prince
- No romance
Sounds promising.
At least the witch is still there... two witches actually.
Agreed. It promises to be a train wreck. Hopefully, Disney will lose $100 million or more and take the hint. I'm not sure they will though. Seems like with their losses lately they just double down.
No her eating the apple now she just touches it.
@@bdleo300yeah, a hot witch who is jealous of "Snow white's" looks.
But it does have a girl boss and that is all anyone needs in life to be happy, rich, famous, successful and universally liked....
Having the lead actress bash & trash the original classic animated film is a bold advertising move Cotton, lets see how it plays out for them.
Yeah this is big brain time
I wonder if she can dodge the backlash heading her way.
They might be trying to make money off of hate-watching
It will play out well. Look at Barbie.
@@XParasiteOctolingand cult watching from the lefties.
I like how she hates that a man had to save a woman from a coma, but doesn't care that a woman put her into that coma purely out of jealousy.
I bet that in the new movie, a man vill be the villain… Anyone dare bet against me?
They already redid this movie I think it was put out by Rammstein?
I just wanted it to be about love. The recent men hating women,women hating men,made everything so toxic. That things being about love is dying 😂. I don't care who save who but I really miss the concept of " love overcomes everything"
Yes, she says that a man won't save her, yet she dreams of being the leader she knows she can be, and the one her father (a man) told her should could become if she was all those things. I mean, maybe she would have never figured it out herself without daddy telling her what she can be.
Remember, they are aiming at your children here. They are counting on young couples with young children taking them to see this moving without ever having to see or understand the original story.
@@Jedimack7*sista hood 😂
The problem is she focused on the negative. Every interview she says how awful the old movie was, not considering people who likes the old movie. She should focus on the positive thing in the new movie without roasting old one. Plus in the Old movie the prince saving her is just a detail, she managed to escape the hunter killing her, she manager to survive on her own, she managed to live with the Seven dwarfs and make them admire her, she also helped them and worked in order to be accepted there. That sounds pretty badass and independent woman to me, while still being feminine.
Really she didn’t even escape the huntsman, the huntsman spared her because she was a kind soul. When she found the dwarves’ cottage she says to the animals that led her there she can offer to cook and clean for them in exchange for shelter and she made good on her offer. Out of all the dwarves Grumpy was the last one to warm up to her but he was the one leading the chase after the queen, even when they knew what the queen was capable of. They even tried to kick Snow out because they feared the queen’s wrath, but thanks to Snow’s caring and kind personality they overcame their fear. Finally one detail I find gets overlooked is that for most of her life Snow was treated as a housemaid, even her stepmother the queen. Yet she remained the cheerful, romantic girl she is throughout the movie.
Seriously, if you have seen the movie and have two brain cells you realize it isn't all about Prince Charming, he does the magic kiss thing at the end and happily ever after, but the interest of the movie lies in Snow White and the dwarves and the stepmother. That the story is framed by her love interest is important as a framework but it doesn't determine the characters and what's interesting and compelling about them. It's just story illiteracy to think that way.
@@josephzepeda7608 exactly
Disney didn’t write the story, this is an old fairytale from the 1600’s or so. Yes Disney’s movie was a classic retelling of a very old story. It’s not up to anyone to decide this classic tale needs changing. And as usual, why? If you want a medieval tale of a strong and powerful princess, then write you one! And quit pretending this has anything to do with Snow White
It's amazing to see how the Walt Disney Company allows the talent to trash talk something that Walt Disney himself had a hand in creating.
"Talent"???
The actress dad is jewish. Here is the pattern you should be looking for for all of those actors and producers hating us
Oh, they don't care. They've been trying for years now to bury Disney himself and all he's done because it's not good for "modern" Disney, just like Marvel is doing with Stan Lee. If they could snap their fingers and change the company name just like Twitter did, they absolutely would.
@gigachad6885 Hey, don't make this discussion about someone's ethnoreligious identity. Nothing good comes from blaming "the Jews".
Walt Disney? Pah, what did *he* know. privileged white man that he was?
Come to think of it, if Disney's so deeply and utterly ashamed of everything that came before the era of fem-extremism, why don't they stop making money off these horrible, misogynistic, transphobic, racist, homophobic, ableist, anti-birthing-person flicks, take them off the shelves and stop having them available on their streaming platform?
The way she conducts herself in those interviews just screams of unearned privilege and entitlement.
Almost as if she were a DAVERSIRTY HIGHER that was hired to push THA MESSEGE!
Modern women.. Always complaining about living a life of endless unearned advantages.. And their solution is always to give them more unearned advantages..
She thinks she's so intelligent and these ideas are so new and profound.
Female narcissists have to paint themselves as victims otherwise people pay more attention to victims than them. Male narcissists don't do the whole victimhood thing because it doesn't work for men - society sees nothing more pathetic than a male victim. "Man up" all the feminists would say. Male narcissists will go the other way and lie about how great they have it so they become enviable.
What's scary about the culture now is most of these women aren't born with narcissistic personality disorders. It's not in their DNA, it's just encouraged. They're being trained to be narcissists.
And dronings of an NPC
"its not passing of the torch but torching of the past"
This sentence is a perfect encapsulation of modern audiences oriented Disney suicidal run.
"Torching of the past" - sounds like one of the cornerstones of any totalitarian regime!
This sentence is a perfect encapsulation of modern audiences oriented Disney suicidal run.
I fix this for you:
This sentence is a perfect encapsulation of modern audiences oriented left-green-woke suicidal run.
They ALL do this. Annheuser-Busch(Budlight),Target, Disney,Ford, Blizzard etc. Its not just the movie-genre its ALL of them.
"It's dated when it comes to things like women in power"....while the original movie was about women in power...the evil queen and Snow later becoming queen. The prince wasn't even the focus of the original and he had very few scenes, was barely in the movie. What are they freaking talking about? 😂😂
tbh i Wish Disney was on death bed ...
this is just so depressing to see
@@LillyMichaelson637the fact the prince is supposed to arrive and save the girl is the "disgusting idea"
leave aside the fact the dwarfs killed the evil Queen and they changed the really ending
As a mother who raised 2 kids all by herself since they were toddlers....I must say there is nothing wrong with a Prince Charming and I’m sick of being told how we are only strong women if we do things on our own. I’m glad we have more choices in life than previous years, but we don’t have to be alone karate chopping people to be someone.
I mean the OG Snow White is cliche and cheesy but that’s what give it it’s charm.
@@rusty7984it is stupid.
Ewho said u have to raise them alone? Wherreh exactly u hear that ? But if ppl want to raise them alone, and think about it as strong, that is their choice
Hear hear
Well said!
I am 69 years old. I saw Snow White in 1962. I have just watched it for the second time, after all the intervening years. It is a wonderful movie. It is a historical treasure. What Disney is doing to it is a cultural war crime.
cultural war crime lmao time to put ur dentures in codger
What are you talking about?@@thomashancock7441
>69 years
Nice
@@thomashancock7441 If they could get their way, they may well want to make it vanish and solely stream the new replacement media to their vapid masses. But they can't. It's still cultural vandalism even if it doesn't quite get to the 'cultural war crime' level.
I have stated what they're doing looks like watching Germans walking out of French museums stealing art, statues and other treasures. Just ransacked like common pillaging
The fact that she keeps referring to the original as just 'the cartoon' tells us all we need to know about her arrogance and ignorance.
I bet she never even saw it.
did you really think she could read? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@daviddavidsonn3578 She cannot.
For real. It was a groundbreaking new art form that holds up today and rivals modern animation.
Shut up loo
_"I was scared of the original cartoon."_ - Rachel Zegler
That says so much about her.
I mean to be fair, that scene in the forest is pretty terrifying.
But it is just a minor aspect of the film and the overall film itself is not scary.
Yes, that acting is a full of shiite profession.
Judge her all you want but when Snow White is running in the forest and all the scary faces appeared, that scared me as a kid, the whole scene where the Queen transforms herself is also scary. And the last scene when the dwarfs are chasing her and she falls to her death and the vultures look at each other and fly to eat her, my 5 year old self was shaking!
Do not believe a single word that comes out of her mouth, she is lying!
@@the-berries-and-cream-dude thanks for your permission, I shall continue to do so.
Almost everything and anything unknown scares people when they're children, it is quite redundant in saying that as an adult. If that is still her takeaway from the movie NOW, then once again, it says so much about her.
I was scared of the first ghost in chains scene in Mickey's Christmas Caroll as a kid, that certainly wouldn't be worth mentioning as an adult.
Snow White was already a strong women. She got away from her stepmother and she found kindness, love from 7 great friends that valued her. She was incredibly thankful so
She took care of their house for them while they were working. Strong women can be incredibly thankful and generous too! She went through hell at home still manage to find live in her heart for others. That right there says everything.
Not just strong, a leader too. That's the irony of this whole thing, Snow White is actually a pretty modern story, except for the kiss in the end. It's too iconic scene to change, but can be fixed easily by giving them a little more history than just one meeting. If their first scene shows an already mature (secret) relationship, then the kiss is fine.
Oh, and the queen is also a strong female character. Most of the plot is driven by the female characters, the males have mostly passive roles.
@@andrasbiro3007 Nothing wrong with the kiss.
@@sidnotvicious8442
Kissing the corpse of a girl he barely knows? I think there are issues with that.
It's not super bad, but it would easy to fix.
It's probably worse that they just fall in love and get married without knowing anything about each other, just because one is pretty and the other is a prince. Again, it's an easy fix, just give a few hints that they've known each other for a bit longer.
@@andrasbiro3007 If there was some girl lying there comatose, and the only way to bring them around was to have a prince kiss her gently on the lips, I think her loved ones would handle that.
@@TheDoctor394
Yes, but nobody knew at the time.
It's a bit of a weakness of the movie actually. Not just ethically, but logically too. A glass coffin is not exactly usual, it only makes sense because the plot needs the prince to kiss her long after she was declared dead.
Hearing the actress openly state she refused to watch the original movie for years, demanding extra pay for dressing up, and calling the prince a stalker says everything we need to know about her and the movie she's in.
I wonder what this girl who wants to be the leader she feels entitled to be, would say if asked about female only spaces or women's sports
I don't know how is Hollywood supposed to make money off of her narcissistic way of not respecting what made the original movie legend in history.
Another man-hating feminist.
Most people would kill to get paid a few millions dollars to stand around in a dress. Yet she tries to paint it as some arduous ordeal she had to endure, so "deserves" even more money. Entitled, spoiled child.
@@alexedwards6509"TW are W!!"
Instead of re-examining her attitude, Rachel is already preparing her media narrative as a survivor of cyber bullying and will go on talk shows that allow her to explore her victimhood.
I can already see the movie failing and her crying about how it’s the sexist patriarchy’s fault.
@@TheKickshawsI bet she's preparing by taking notes from others on the picket line.
She's trying to compete with bree larson on who can be a bigger asshole. It's stiff competition lets see how it works out!
@@TheKickshaws Which is absurd because there clearly aren't enough horses for it to be patriarchy.
Eh, she'll be relegated to the dust bin of history in no time
Ah yes, the extremely popular and realistic feminine hero character that has absolutely no flaws, overcomes absolutely no challenges and the only thing she ever had to do was believe in herself.
Mulan?
2020, I mean.
@@Julia-lk8jnuugghh!... still hurts...
Meanwhile in reality women can't even carry the cat litter in from the car
😂@@cmdrfunk
Beauty is power. She is powerless.
"It's not a passing of the torch, it's a torching of the past"....classic.
Snow White in the 1937 movie IS a strong female character. She's a young girl who needs protection from an evil queen, but rather being all "woe is me, everyone save me!" And then lounging around being waited on hand and foot, she actually wants to earn her keep and help better the lives of the people who are saving her. She uses her knowledge and abilities to help those who do things for her that she can't do by herself. That's real strength, not just being able to effortlessly overcome all challenges with ease without any help.
To be fair though, for a young kid, her running through the forest is a terrifying scene.
Amazing how her desire to EARN her keep is now seen as her being taken advantage of since the dwarves didn’t first try to help her process her trauma. Well, some people process by being empowered to do the things they’re good at instead of being told no no, don’t do anything meaningful to contribute and feel a sense of value when your value is entirely in you breathing.
Who cares if she said “woe is me everyone save me“ she’s 14 she can’t do everything and we all need help sometimes but she was able to support and be grateful for those seven dwarves that did save her life and did take her and that’s what makes her a great character she’s pure.
The transformation scene is also terrifying, and I also would fast-forward it on my vhs player. But that just makes it effective and the animators deserves all the respect for it, not disdain because you as a viewer are a p*ssy.
Disney hate money
Exactly, that's it. People nowadays don't seem to know a lot of Grimm's fairy tales - Snow White is one of their spunkier heroines. In many tales, a girl will simply lie down to be killed, sacrificed or mutilated (fairy tales are not actually kiddie stories, did you know?), just because she's such a sweet and innocent girl.
When Snow White realizes the huntsman is going to kill her, she fights tooth and nail for her life - first she softens him up by crying, then she runs off into the wilderness, then she seeks shelter and finds a safe place to stay where she can put her skills to use and recover from living in a hostile home. That's a pretty good array of skills for a teenager, whether in a fairy tale or in real life.
Rachel Zegler is the poisoned apple of this movie, it’s quite hilarious really.
i literally pictured her as an apple😂
i literally pictured her as an apple😂
I wouldn't mind eating that apple... alright I'mma headout.
I bet there are much prettier girls of "her ethnic demographic" out there...
@@SammEaterI mean, shed prolly like to eat you too, just more like a black widow or a praying mantis does
Disney is doing a damn good job of tanking ALL of their movies before their releases. Keep it up, Disney! The great Hollywood reset is inevitable at this point, right? Please?
The sooner holiwud dies the sooner indie movies will take over.
This is the Great Reset. This is the Neo-Marxist takeover of this aspect of our culture. This is not going to stop. The trans-agenda trained people working there have been brainwashed into this for forty years and now they have power. This is just the beginning of the destruction. Think: it is everywhere - Target, Bud Lite, Nike, Victoria Secret, the M-She-U, in the schools, in our institutions. The Alphabet People Flag Parades are VICTORY Parades. Settle in for much, much more of this cultural devastation. Cheers!
nope. look into blackrock. they dont need customers anymore
@@dartdukii impossible, if indie movies were to takeover then they wouldn’t be indie anymore
The indie movies haven't lived long enough yet to become the villain. @@Deinowharf
Your assessment of Zegler is spot on!
"Not a passing of the torch, it's a torching of the past." Brilliant!
How could Disney be so eager to destroy it's beloved history?
The problem with feeding a politically correct, 'Woke,' 'Monster,' is that eventually, the monster will eat you too!
It's so sad to see such an iconic animation studio bend itself to political correctness and activism ...
The original film is an artistic masterpiece. You could watch the entire movie on mute and still be completely absorbed by the breathtaking animation. And likewise you could listen to it with your eyes closed and have your soul touched by the music. What a legacy.
Describes what I would be doing if I had to watch this remake...with my eyes and ears shut.
I just miss hand-drawn so much. Take me back to the 90s please.
@@TheAverageGuy12 I think Kubrick might have been onto something
😆@@fulconandroadcone9488
Same with the 1940 Pinocchio. This to me, was the beginning of Disney's golden era in animation.
In the original, a woman is the heroine, a woman is also the villain. The two human male characters adore her, even the one who was supposed to kill her, and the dwarves exist to serve her, protect her, and tell her how awesome she is. You would think they would love that, and they still found something wrong with it. You go girls.
Literally!!!!
You’re describing the original as worship of the main character. Who are these people who you’d think would love that?
@@ascent8487 the two lead actresses. The people the video is about.
Nothing's enough.
Indeed. The Evil Queen is already a leader totally in touch with her own power. Did anyone notice? I guess we needed an Snow White: Evil Queen in Training film.
This cartoon was made 85 years ago and it's better than anything you've ever made Rachel, congratulations.
The holes on the edges of the leader of the third reel of 1937 Snow White are more interesting than that toy hole Zegler.
@@emilyadams3228she's just another Hollywood red carpet muncher.
Yep. And by 2037 all of her films will be forgotten and the 100 year old Snow White will still be a classic. The only Rachel people will remember is Rachel from Friends.
South Park's shitty cartoon is a better character than this garbage.
@@justinm2697don't forget the one from the dark knight.
The male characters in the original Snow White portrayed the sort of traits that we would all want for men of today. The Huntsman, commanding by the Queen to kill Snow White, instead let her live. The dwarves took her in and kept her as safe as they could. The Prince revived her from certain death with a kiss of love. Disney today sucks.
exactly
The fact Zegler keeps referring to the original as a "cartoon" shows she is dripping with disdain for it. Walt took a huge leap of faith and the movie was truly groundbreaking for its time. She is trying to put Snow White on the level of a Popeye or Bugs Bunny short and that is just wrong. She's earned a permanent spot on the D-list.
Lmao we are really straying into circle-jerk territory with this one. It was an animated film, those are also called cartoons.
lets be honest does anyone even know who she is and what films she's been in. she's already a D-list actor and gal gadot is a B tier actor at best. neither can act to save their lives
Just like a shallow minded woke simpleton. . . she thinks that just because cartoons are done in animation, then all animations must therefore be cartoons.
She is such an unpleasant, ubeducated person, I feel like defending Bugs Bunny right now...
My thoughts exactly. It really irks me how she’s attempting to degrade what is considered a timeless animated movie by slapping a “cartoon” tag on it. In general, I don’t trust or socialize with people that don’t have the brain cells to appreciate and differentiate one format from the other.
The thing is, the old Snow White was a girl boss already. She basically took over a house of 7 men, flipped it, bossed them around a bit, made new rules (washing hands etc.) yet was still sweet and feminine.
So, a girl boss is somebody who does all your chores (and those of your six buddies) but gets you to wash your hands in a "sweetly and feminine" way.
I think you might have a wonderful future in Florida politics right now.
@@Julia-lk8jn What?? Did she do ALL the chores and make all the things the dwarves made? I highly doubt that. But I also note that you have nothing to say about her making new rules and ordering the men around. So your comment is completely one sided. In fact I think you might have a future living in San Francisco in a tent with your other political leftist cronies right now.
@@Julia-lk8jnsimp
@@Julia-lk8jndo you like the original Disney animated Snow White movie? I think it was the first oficial animated Disney movie that was not strictly a musical and it put Disney on map and its still great.
@@Julia-lk8jnIt says way more about you if THATS how you saw snow white
_”Now I am become woke, destroyer of franchises.”_
- Rachel Zegler
I really like this quote lol
This quote has been adapted for...
*MODERN AUDIENCES*
lol
Men are getting tired of being bashed. I hope this ends her short career, and she never gets hired again.
@@Noctazar
And to reflect our current world.
You've so nailed it: these movies are more focused on pointing out the details of the original movies that according to the current trend can be seen as outdated than actually offering something better. In the end, all they offer is something that ends up being just self-righteous.
It's inherently self-defeating to be nothing but negative; it's fine to oppose things, but you have to have a superior alternative to offer.
I gotta say, the original Snow White looks stunning even now, almost 90 years later. Beautiful colors, beautiful backgrounds, just beautiful all the way around. There’s a feeling of heft and weight to the animation which I believe contributes to its timelessness.
Also, if you look at photos of the attendants to the premieres of Walt Disney's features, there's quite a lot of adults in them.
it is truly sad that this level of hand drawn animation will never come back (there's several reasons for that but the most important one is that it's not a craft being taught anymore).
That style of animation will never go out of style as far as I'm concerned.
you gotta watch those disney docs form that era! so incredible what they did for the time and budget in like 1939. Its insane how impressive a huma feat it is and was. People have no idea what a risk that was, it nearly doomed Disney. They went out on a limb. It was very very very expensive, many worked without pay for overtime obviously thats animation. when people saw it theaters it was like seeing aliens. Imagine showing taht level of colour in cartoon to people who'd only seen steamboat willie if tehy were lucky. then they see all that. Its a marvelous pice of human achievement and it says a lot about us as humans imo. it was like animation's moon landing. before we did they said it was undoable.
@@carljohan9265Im really glad that unique animation is starting to come back recent years, whether it be new tmnt, spider verse franchise, the bad guys, mitchells vs machines, the last wish puss in boots over these same looking disney cgi barf fests
There already is a strong female character in the original story... The evil Queen! She doesn't want love, she just wants to be the leader she knows she can be. And she certainly isn't rescued by a prince. She is just trying to get rid of the little upstart. 😂
The Evil Queen is the original girlboss.
Can't believe this isn't a bigger talking point, it literally directly counters Rachel's notions that the film's "dated" for lacking strong female characters! The fact that it took a literal intervention from the sky to stop her speaks to her power in and of itself. It's a far more effective testament of power than whatever 'modern' ideas of boring infallibility and unlikeable characterisations most modern Hollywood writers seem to be cultishly churning out these days.
Yes. The most chilling part of the film is where she kicks the bucket at a skeleton that one can only presume belonged to the previous king, going, "Thirsty?".
And ironically, it is her own hubris and envy that end up destroying her...
Don't give them ideas haha @@cmc5394oparva
In the original, Snow WAS a very strong character. She persevered despite horrific loss, found help, inspired others, and even TURNED a man who was sent to kill her. The evil queen was a perfect example of the dangers of narcissism and the corruption of power. The love story was simple but very effective, the characters (all of them) had some form of arc, even if some were a bit more shallow than others. And all of it accomplished with cel animation and in 83 minutes. There is a reason that it is credited as the foundation of Disney. Like almost all remakes, this one will fall far short and, hopefully, will be quickly consigned to the dustbin of history.
that's all blah-blah-blah to Rachel Nevermind Career"
Maybe Rachael should have played the evil queen, she wouldn’t even have to act.
AND, that cell animation has more individual layers than anyone has done, including Disney, before OR since. It's a masterwork of Animation. It deserves respect for that ALONE. It took THOUSANDS of original, hand-drawn cells, from individual artists, to make Snow White... what a way to treat your Magnum Opus, Disney...
Sounds like the new Snow white is more like the evil Queen - seeking power over love.
Find me someone who can’t name all 7 dwarves and who doesn’t love them all. I’ll be here getting old while I wait.
To me, Snow White has never been the "fairest of them all" purely based on how she looks -- her heart of gold, positivity and child-like naivete are the reasons why everyone (even animals) loves her. That's not something that the evil step mother can ever replicate, let alone overtake. Rachel Zegler does not possess any of the abovementioned qualities, and it shows -- even if she acts brilliantly. Heck, I would even say Gal Gadot feels more Snow White, and Rachel more evil step mother, age difference aside. I'm sad that another fond childhood memory is going to be butchered.
The narcissism and hubris of youth is shining through her words. Too young to understand how wrong she is, but also old enough to have learned all the things the world wanted her to learn up until now. She has yet to challenge any of her preconceived notions and her cocktail of ignorance is strong and will last for many years. Once it wears off, she will look back on these days in horror.
If she ever becomes enlightened enough to comprehend what she did. So far she doesn’t seem to be the type to gain some self awareness along the way.
More of a female problem than a youth problem tbh.
Pride comes before the fall.
@@willer3399I’d be shocked to see any growth or self awareness
Well, by then she'll be featured in low-budget direct to streaming movies. And that's the best case scenario.
Of course she calls it stalking because she thinks social media/phones/tinder has existed since the dawn of time. They had no other way of staying in touch. I doubt she even knows how to send a letter.
Or even write with a pen.
Last year, I literally had to teach a summer intern how to send a letter. She was fresh out of high school and had never in her life sent anything through the mail. She couldn't even figure out how to fold the paper to fit in the envelope without being shown how. That's a failure to learn geometry to any useful degree, not merely being unfamiliar with "analog" technology. I've never been so saddened by the experiential gap between my generation an the ones coming up behind me - before or since.
How do you stalk someone who's in a coma? 🙄
God forbid a girl falls in love in a movie. What's wrong with finding happiness these days?
Well..
a) Because love means you need someone else, and that's a big no-no for modern feminists
b) Because strong family ties is bad for authoritarian governements => Someone might not rebel to save himself, but he/she might do it to save their child or parent.
In short, the more miserable and alone you are, the better docile consumer you become.
no fr like a feminist movie these days is no feminist movie if there is a romance, she could get a man if she wants to & that’s ok 😭😭
@@roviize9425… except Yennefer and Geralt are in love but Witcher still shitted on for being feminist.
@@goofygrandlouis6296what’s also bad for authoritarian governments are people who defy tradition in general for both ideals of individualism and common wealth.
Girls aren’t allowed to fall in love anymore, become a mother, a wife, a homemaker, a creator of the next generation. They all have to grow up to become self absorbed childless girl boss spinsters. Well according to Disney that is.
Snow White is a priceless piece of art that revolutionized the way animation was done. It's entirely hand drawn and colored, frame by frame. Shitting on it is like shitting on Wizard of Oz or Citizen Kane.
Any actor worth their salt would know better, but also if Disney is going in this direction, any actor worth their salt would know not take this trainwreck of a part. Disney has completely lost their roots, and I'm waiting for them to give this same treatment to Mickey Mouse himself at this point. Like turn Minney into some kind of boss babe. It's a shameless money grab that's unappealing, uncreative, and preachy to anyone outside of the Hollywood bubble. People watch entertainment to escape reality, not to have it shoved in their faces.
Remember the Mickey Mouse movie where he, Donald and Goofy were playing the Three Musketeers and Minnie and Daisy had the damsel in distress roles? With Minnie almost exacerbating the bubbly, lovey-dovey princess trope? Bet it wouldn't fly today.
@@diegodubber2140Oh no. That certainly wouldn't. TBF, no one really likes the Damsel in Distress Princess...
@@rustyshackelford4224 Yeah...
Like one wise TH-camr said: "you are not stupid because you are a woman. You are stupid because you are stupid". Those words are easily applicable to Rachel Zegler.
+1
“I don’t distrust you because you’re a woman. I distrust you because you’re not as smart as you think you are.”
-Tywin Lannister
Dr Shaym?
Don't you miss the days when a cool, liberated frontwoman could sing a song titled 'stupid girl' and trust the audience and media to be sufficiently mature and discriminating to know how it was meant, and would never dream of having to even 'clarify', let alone hand-wring or apologize?
@@jamesthecat Holy crap yes, this. Garbage did a great job with songs like "Stupid Girl", "Queerest of the Queer", "Vow" and "Not My Idea".
100 years from now, the original Snow White movie will still be viewed as one of the greatest pieces of animation ever made. The live action movie will be lucky to be a footnote.
Future person: “Wow, this movie and every classic is amazing!”
(Notices the remake)
“……… Is this a cut scene from ‘Once Upon a Time?’”
I'd be surprised if people even remember it in five years.
Snow White will be watched until man is extinct. The remake will go extinct before it gets a blu-ray release.
@@TheCapedWandererblue ray? Nah, it's straight to streaming for this pile 💩.
Yep, it'll probably a literal footnote link on the WikiMovie page for the original.
A message to all those “strong female characters”. In movies. And real life. If you need to tell someone you’re a “strong female character”? You’re not one.
So true a REAL WOMAN doesn't need to prove anything to appease this modern way of thinking, it must be so confusing for them to be part of the new world order that they don't need a man etc there's nothing wrong with dreaming a prince will ride up on his noble steed and sweep you off your feet especially for young girls , just seems the agenda these days is not allow children to be children
Facts
Pure facts
Someone asked her about the story and she told them. Let’s not take things out of context.
Yep!
Her face is just so condescending as he asks her the question. She's under the impression that bravado and arrogance are the same thing as strength of character and true conviction. She doesn't care about this character, or this film, only pushing an agenda she thinks makes her look like a #girlboss. In reality she comes across as an insecure child playing dress up and throwing a temper tantrum because people aren't wowed by her. She also seems the type of mean girl who would bully someone like Snow White for being "trad" all the while proclaiming that she's standing up and speaking for all women to live the life they choose.
I think Tangled was the last truly great Disney fairy tale adaptation.
It made changes to the original story so that it wasn’t just a copy + paste, but they also left a lot of the elements that were crucial to its identity in.
It had a female protagonist who could fight for herself, but understood that sometimes she needed help too. More specifically, if it weren’t for someone else’s efforts, she would’ve willingly stayed locked up in the tower, a prisoner of her illegitimate mother forever.
The male character actually had character along with a redemption arc, despite being secondary to the story. He also served as comic relief most of the time on top of all this. Most secondary characters these days are doomed to have only one defining quality, which doesn’t really change throughout the story. He also actually has a motivation to follow the protagonist around and into danger rather than just because he really, really likes her.
The antagonist was also female, but she wasn’t all powerful, unlike a lot of modern female characters. She realized physical strength wasn’t her forte, so she relied more on her wit and manipulative tendencies to achieve her goals.
In other words, all of the characters felt believable, to an extent, because they all had strengths and weaknesses. But more importantly, they *recognized* those, and used them to their advantage. The characters actually *used* their brains instead of relying on one character to be the smarts while the rest are just meat-heads waiting to be defeated.
What I don’t understand is why Disney fails to grasp this concept. No-one hates female protagonists or antagonists. We just hate the ones that don’t feel like actual people. It’s a mark of lazy writing, and we feel ripped-off by it.
Agreed!
Tangled was a stellar adaptation, and I love seeing people appreciate that.
If you haven't, you should read the Wheel of Time series. The balance of the sexes is amazing.
Tangled was made to be fun.
Fun is missing from all modern kids films.
not only that but it also adapted and pushed the boundaries in animation techniques, you know what disney is known for!, rather than just shove a camera at a pretty face
Zegler thinks that the movie having men helping a young lady threatened by her stepmother that tries to kill her is a problem. Like, literally all the men in the movie are on Snow White's side. The hunter even sacrificed his life and dignity in order to save Snow White, because the queen stated that if he failed there would be punishment. And the dwarfs literally tried to fight the evil queen, risking their lives to avenge Snow White's "death". This proofs how perverted is the mind of a feminist.
Well said!
Snow White just wants to be the CEO of black Rock and fund Hilary to the oval office, get with the 23s people!
Men are expendable, women don't care about men's suffering.
You said it all.
Fr Hollywood seems so anti-men now that it makes even a tomboy like me disappointed. I was laughed at for saying that there are still good men because my dad did his best to save me from my abusive mom. My bf of 5 years now was also the first to make me feel unconditional love, allowing me to do whatever I wanted without judgement. I could be all hormonal during my period and say I want to "kill" him to his face (ofc I don't mean it), and he wouldn't budge.
“it's no longer 1937 [...], she's not gonna be dreaming about true love”
Welp. It's official ladies and gentlemen. Never thought I'd hear anyone _openly_ say that love is an outdated concept that has no place in modern world, but here we have it.
Well, if you think about it, the idea of true love suddenly appearing the save you is silly and naive. Most people have to work at it to make it work. But no harm in wishing for love.
And whats wrong with love? Or wanting love? Even if its modern, it's nice to see love, romance.
@bui3415 it's naive? Why don't people realize these are fantasy stories? True and perfect love at first sight is a fantasy that makes a nice story. That's why fairy tales go back thousands of years. I really want to understand when and why people decided they were supposed to be some kind of instruction manual for living life and therefore decided that they must be harmful. Stories are meant to be enjoyed. And the way they remove love interests from the majority of modern princess stories is not very enjoyable nor does it seem especially wise. Like remember girls, career aspirations are more important than loving relationships. That sounds healthy
My generation (30+ millennials) are already regretting the push of career over family. So many people I know worked instead of settling down to have kids, and are now discovering it is hard building relationships and having children at this stage.
You said it my friend.
I ended up having to stop talking to a girl once due to her saying "there's no such thing as love, you have to look at a relationship like a business partnership, how much will you bring to the house, what jobs have you worked," I was shook not even gonna lie, luckily for me I grew up with a sensible sister and I myself found my wife and yes Love is an actual thing
I used to be woke. I was constantly getting triggered. I protested everything that offended me, and demanded it all be cancelled. Finally I grew out of it, and went to preschool.
they should ask her: if she dislikes the original so much, why did she accepted this role?
Because she wants to ruin it to push how progressive she is
She thinks she’s revolutionary 😭
Cause people like her are illegitimate and will abandon their "virtues " no matter how twisted for a dollar every time.
monayyy baaaybe 😂
Lots of money.
Lmao the fact that the actress for Snow Fucking White, that super minor and unimportant character in The Story of Snow White, said she only watched the original ONCE and didn’t like it is just….perfect. Her obvious disdain for the source material, her unapologetic arrogance in clearly believing that what they’ve produced is superior; I couldn’t think of a better way to encapsulate the genuine hatred and unbridled loathing that Hollywood feels for their audiences.
She should get together with the writers from The Witcher, with their combined disdain for the source material for their own projects they would get along famously.
Really? Where did she say that?
@@monal3544she was scared and just watched it once, is wgat she really said 1:17
But if you see her other comments... it's obvious she didn't like it.
Should have been called - Brown Snow Flake
Can’t wait for Snow White to tackle the real main “villain” of the movie: the toxic patriarchy 😂
Sadly that will actually happen.
that is probably what the story will actually be about lol
Barbie: the sequel
and what there pronouns are
She'll accuse him of assault for waking her up from her coma, claiming she didn't consent to being alive. And it will ruin his life, he'll move into a one bedroom efficiency with his dog, eventually self delete, and she'll be a boss queen.
German girl here!
In preschool in Halloween (named different here) I always went as Snow White, with the yellow-blue dress my mum made herself.
It is a beautiful, mid-European Fairytale and she's insulting our culture.
So sad man, so sad ... everyone wants a better world and keeping on fighting fire with fire...
Rachel: I hate Snow White.
Disney: Would you like to play Snow White?
Rachel: Oh, YES PLEASE!
$$$$
She never said please in her whole life😂
That black Ariel was something else, but I don't remember her publicly burying the original.
This Rachel girl is an obnoxious twat.
It probably went more like :
Rachel : I hate Snow White
Disney : Do you like money?
Rachel : Yes
I gotta know where that "Shite, shite, shite" scene was from that looks hilarious. This seemed like the best high like to low comment ratio to get me the best chance of an answer. Don't let me down
Geez her facial expressions when she talks actually says more about her than the words she speaks. She truly does believe shes of greater intelligence than anyone around her
As expected from a Jew.
I would expect no less from a young girl that's discovered the internet and feminism all on the same afternoon.
Colombian but prolly part jew
Fs should Please stop parasiting. Make your own. No one stopped you. No one oppressed you. No one ever did. It is you who couldn't do it. Stop barging into established male spaces then shriek on about how you are the victim when we are in the same room to get this favor and that. Stop welfare and affirmative action.
Metoo, gender paygab, glass ceiling, Period vacation. Do all you want on your own space instead of nagging at men to do it for you. Welfare yourselves with your own taxes only. Gender segregation just like the old days.
You can only have rights to the level of responsibility you take. Otherwise it is parasitism and you end up leeching at others who are responsible.
She is no different than any millenial and zoomer i have ever met, when it comes to history and western popular culture. I just hope that they would shut their pieholes about anything that was created before the year 2000.
Snow White is one of the greatest works of art in history. Imagine dismissing it as some '80 year old cartoon'. Way to destroy your own legacy Disney.
Without the success of the original Snow White, the actress playing her in the remake wouldn't be as famous as she is now. Ironic
It's not even Snow White anymore.
It's not THEIR legacy. Neither they nor their culture created the original.
Might as well call the film what it is: Snow brown and the 7 California baristas
'greatest works of art in history' Now now... let's keep it in the category of animated films or maybe limit the category to 20th century (even then, there is so much more greater art out there - at least in Europe)
The original Snow White was a Strong female character. She was kind, thoughtful, industrious, idealistic but practical. She was a character of a person you would want to meet in real life. She doesn't deserve mockery and neither does her prince who rescued her from a coma. The dwarfs were hard working, good hearted and open minded. They learned lessons and grew into better versions of themselves. The movie was celebrated because the characters were wonderful.
She is right, It is no longer 1937, when Disney made good movies, it is 2023 when Disney makes garbage.
Well said!
Woke garbage!
We are living in a world where Hollywood produces garbage and wants us to see it as gold, and want us to see gold as garbage
Hey you know, it's not 1937, why should I act well? 😂😂
The original film was made in 1937 but the story takes place in the 1500s. Why does Disney not see how out of place it is to put a story of women's empowerment into a film that took place in the 1500's? Maybe we can do a story on Abraham Lincoln as well and have Boot assassinated him with a high powered rifle instead.Why does all of Disney's films seem to not understand context?
"It's not a passing of the torch but a torching of the past" is such an inspired quote I'd be surprised if it doesn't catch on as a legit literary quote in future.
it put a hole in my brain too mate. skills
Let the past die kill it if you have to 🤖
The best original quote I've heard in a long while...
Great quote.
Also just noticing the profile pic, if youre a performing artist like me, keep fighting the good fight and bringin the real stuff directly to the people. I wont let culture die im going to keep growing it ✊
"All of Andrew's scenes could get cut." Imagine being an actor and hearing your costar joke about that. Damn.
That's woke "inclusivity" for ya.
More like cluelessivity.
She's a Qundt
He prob thought it was funny. BUT NO ACTUALLY SHE WASN'T JOKING BECAUSE NOT ONLY DOES SHE WANT TO REWRITE SNOW WHITE AS A LEADER WITH A VOICE SHE WANTS ALL HER COSTARS TO DIEEE A PAINFUL DEATH, ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE MEN. Do I sound like a conservative now?
@@fgoindarkg Exclusivity.
Says the original snow white is extremely dated when it comes to women in power yet the villain is an all powerful queen who does magic. Didn't realize the queen was actually a man
There’s something especially appalling about someone wanting to invalidate previous generation’s accomplishments, while at the same time, use those accomplishments for their own benefit. A real shameless lack of honor.
That’s Equity baby!
Awesome way to put it. Was wondering why this was bothering me so much and you hit the nail on the head
Well, it's actually a great analogy for modern-day feminism !
They want the perks of "male leadership"... But without the hard-work and duties that go with it.
Notice that female writers often times write "Mary-Sue's", who have everything handed to them, without actually being tried. Quite telling !
The whole social justice warriors movement in the nutshell.
Well said.
Walt Disney started his movie career with Snow White the first featured film and Rachel ended hers with her own words.
You were way too easy on her and Gadot. Also, since she has repeatedly stated, confirmed, then escalated her claims, she is not simply stating what she's been told, she clearly believes what she is spewing 💀
Yeah. Rachel Z is a "believer". A zealous cult member. She's 100% in on all the ridiculous things she's saying, and you can really see her conviction. If anything she's holding back. A naive but entitled, spoiled, rich 22 year old with enough anger in them to burn the whole world, and I bet her life has been as smooth as butter in reality.
I agree, I think he's being diplomatic and nice, but the girl is garbage, you can tell by her irritating tone she truly believes the stupidity of her words. She's just another dumb, stupid, modern girl who knows nothing about the world, hates men and tradition and thinks her toxic world view is actually the way to move forward. She's trash, and so is Gal Gadot.
She’s a child, though, really, and is not as responsible for her thoughts as the people putting that bs into her head are.
I think he’s trying to be fair because she’s an indoctrinated little girl who hasn’t had any hardship to give her wisdom so her culpability for her ignorance is reduced.
@@lostandfound5145 sorry but that is not an excuse, yes, she has been indoctrinated, but she's 22, she's not a child anymore, she can vote, she has her opinion and worldview, indoctrinated or not she's still dangerous and toxic, she is in a position where she can spread her rotten ideology to other girls and society at large, so no, she doesn't get a pass.
@@lostandfound5145 Bullshit! A child? She looks old enough to know better to me. She knows what she's doing, and indoctrination is not a good enough excuse, since many did not fall for such tripe in the past. It does show that they should not have any say whatsoever in public life though. It certainly proves that.
"It's not passing the torch, it's torching of the past"
Thanks, made my day.
85 years ago doesn’t mean “exactly dated” it means “timeless Classic” Snow White is a German fairytale from the 1500s WTF it wasn’t “dated” in 1937 despite being 400+ years old…. It was “timeless Classic” still is!
But stories get improved over time. Society progresses and stories need to be updated over time to reflect that. You wouldn't want to wear a dress made in 1937.
As Shakespeare said, "Stories are like apps. You need the latest updates."
@@Myndir key word in your argument is "improved" we all agree with you sadly they are missing the improvement part xD
I did not know that.
While the tale probably has origins in European literature from the early modern age the version we know as Snow White was written down by the brothers grimm in 1812 and edited in the 1850's to be more child friendly.
@@51turlough I don't agree at all, y'all are just pathetic whiners.
WTF is wrong with her dreaming about love?! I'm a woman, btw. I'm so tired of the narrative that women have to be "strong and independent" and can't fall in love. Women can be strong and still fall in love. They can still be strong and yet rely on a man sometimes. I hate this new narrative being pushed.
Yes, we'll said. I've often thought how pandering it is to tell women they are wrong to want to indulge in old fashioned romance tropes. It's funny too that nobody sees that the rescue fantasy goes both ways typically. Usually the male character is struggling to find a truly good women. They are men of high social standing who are fed up with the inauthenticity of their surroundings and a lack of purpose. Typically it's about finding someone who will help them to be fair and just and keep them grounded. The idea being, without purpose and guidance, they know they would become cruel and resentful.
It's really a two way hero fantasy. Both are "damsels in distress" until they rescue each other.
Cheesy, but timeless...
The women screaming about how love is weakness and how all women have to be strong and independent...are the ones that will be found half-eaten by their 42 cats.
It encourages harmful ideas like heteronormativity and raising a family - or god forbid - motherhood. We dont want little girls getting crazy ideas like that.
Because "falling in love" means "needing someone else" and in their mind it means that she is "weak". It is insane
@@PolarizedMechs 🤣
Snow White was once considered such a sacred movie by the Walt Disney Company that it was the last movie to receive a home video release. The attitudes of the executives (Roy Disney and his allies) who resisted it was that Snow White was so iconic as a landmark moment in the history of not just animated cinema but ALL cinema that the very act of plugging it into a VCR as just another mindless product to be consumed was antithesis to everything Walt created it to be - a legitimization of the art form of animation.
They believed Snow White had to be properly enjoyed as an artistic masterpiece, in a theater, with the right frame of mind.
Of course this view wasn't going to hold out forever against the money left on the table or the inevitable antiquated feel of the movie compared to masterpieces of the Disney Renaissance which perfected the techniques Snow White first attempted.
But hearing the things people involved in a Snow White remake are saying about the movie that literally made the Walt Disney Company what it is... I just don't know what they expect to happen next.
With regard to the home video thing, I remember my grandpa buying that for us and coming over all excited and telling us that now WE could see the first film he and his brothers had watched in a theatre as children. I can still picture, in my mind, my brothers and I sitting with him and grandma and my parents and Snow White playing on the TV.
If this flops, Disney should can all of their future remakes effective immediately. I heard they canceled The Hunchback of Notre Dame remake, which is good, but the ones still in the wings should be done away with, too.
The animated "One that Started it All" should be the live-action "One that Stopped it All". By that, end the remakes, not the animated films.
Its kind of smoothbrained to s**t on the movie that made Disney the animation giant. Without Snow White, she wouldn't be directing a woke film that s**ts on Snow White.
I wanted to get a hard copy of this before they pulled something like this crap.
She makes me want to watch the original again.
Rachel Zegler is not a clown but the entire circus.
Rachel zegler as the evil queen
Werner ZIEGLER
Dont insult clowns or circuses like that, dude.
She’s just young and dumb with a platform. The more she talks the worse she becomes.
@@JOXCYZIEGLER ZIEEEEEGLERRRRR
I think Rachel Zeglar has done us all an unintentional favor by warning us all how bad that movie is. We won’t make the mistake of seeing that train wreck.
Anybody could tell its gonna be crap from the pictures of the magical creatures.
Not only that all the cgi/love actions have sucked
Indeed. I can’t wait to miss this one.
They did pretty well with Beauty and the Beast as well as Cinderella, in my opinion. It still felt like the original animated versions for the most part.
I mean we don't really need her to tell us that Disney don't know how to make good movies anymore, right now we can really ignore EACH movie they release. But yeah, she's confirming all that with what she says...it's crazy how 100 years later today's "Disney" is as far away from (Walt) Disney and those movies as it can get. oO
That doesn’t matter, it’s still going to be watched by people and influence the future into that direction. The general audience needs to see how terrible this is going to be BEFORE they buy movie tickets
A strong female lead doesn’t need to shout it in everyone’s face lol it should already be obvious
You mean something like, 'Show, don't tell'? What kind of nonsense is that?!?!
I can’t even figure out what people are mad about by reading the comments
Snow feminist and the 7 abortions
*cough* barbie *cough*
@@Nicolekss HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA . . . Maybe that's what this film's really called . . . you might be onto something . . .
The ending of the video was epic: "You are but a passing ripple in the pond of history whereas they are history". You nail it !!!
I can’t believe that a Disney film would tank its film by pushing THE MESSAGE and alienating any fan base that it could’ve built to pander to people who won’t watch it
And the truth shall set you free!
And we’re supposed to be sad about the writers strike?
I like how funny this reply is. It's brilliant
They are trying to create a cold civil war
@@ftrwrwbg Good riddance lol. Hopefully the strike purges every last one of these woke fools
Whats weird to me is that you'd think disney would treat snow white with a certain level of reverence. It is the reason the company got off the ground after all.
But it doesn't represent the trendy values of today. I mean.. it has dwarves... a female lead who doesn't punch a white man in the face even once... and a dashing prince who is clearly not meeting the required example of today's Weak Managed Male. No wonder they want to erase it from history.. imagine if the teens of today actually watched it. They'd be SO confused about why a man was necessary to help the Strong White Female... it doesn't make sense....
Disney doesnt exist anymore
These people are just using its name as a way to ruin the world
They totally dump and piss on the foundation and builders that gave them their shoulders to stand on.
That shows how far they have fallen. And they have fallen far.
The people that run Disney now hate ol' Walt and everything he stood for, and so it's not surprising they wouldn't respect what he created. And he knew who they were and called them out a few times, rumor has it.
“It’s not a passing of the torch, it’s a torching of the past” was so immaculately said. It had chiasmus, vivid imagery, and a sharp message packed into just one sentence.
All hail MauLer!
Revolution is only possible when you've convinced enough people that the old ways that got them where they are, are actually the problem.
The communists in Vietnam and China expressly destroyed and rewrote their own history, otherwise they would never have succeeded. Thankfully enough survived where it wasn't all lost, but much of it was.
I honestly love this guy’s use of metaphors.
That sums it all up
He's not the first person to say it you know.
This is "How to end your career before it even starts."
Snow White was the world's first ever full length animated feature and Walt Disney was rightfully very proud of it. So I'm sad they are allowing her to mock it like she is.
It came close to ruining Disney, and it was on the edge of being scrapped, but Walt's own determination and perseverance pushed it across the line.
Mocking: rewriting it where snow white is a leader and not just a bystander.
@@Babyblue115the point of the og story is not about snow white being a leader. its about preserverance and keep being kind through hard times, about dreaming of true love and meeting them. Snow white by no mean a bystander lol she preserve, survive, and still take care those around her even she herself is going through abuse. If they wanna make a movie about leadership make a new fairytale or movie, dont change/ruin a classic that have been loved by many.
Don't worry, it will be forgotten by next year
@@yukishakurawell said
Watching Snow White for the Leadership aspect is like watching Harry Potter for Christian Theology and Values
You nailed it 👏 👌
Harry Potter might be better for that, all things considered.
The irony that J.K. Rowling was a feminist, and despite this she endured the urge to put a self insert all capable women, instead told a classic story about a "chosen one" boy and a classic bad guy.
Imagine dunking on "dated original" while playing a child of a king who gets to be a "Leader" exclusively through hereditary laws.
Didn't the Huntsman movie do that with her still having a Prince she loved? That was actually an entertaining film, but it had Snow White as a strong leader already. How is this film doing anything new?
We really need a 22,year old lecturing us, letting us know everything before her birth was wrong.
because she searched on the internet and knows everything
@@syler100and doesn't even know Snow White existed before the movie
Fuckin' hell... I just realized that this woman is younger than me. Oh god...
22??
What? She's only 2 years older than me???😶
At what point is this Ship of Theseus no longer Snow White? She doesn't need a prince so "Someday My Prince Will Come" and climax of true love's kiss is out. Snow White doesn't have skin white as Snow. There are seven random individuals, not 7 dwarves. She's a boss girl, not a nurturing mother role.
What's left?
This isn't Snow White and we all know it.
It is Snow Shit.
Yeah, it's Rain Tan and the seven people.
🚬😎
OK, so she doesn't have skin as white as snow, and the evil queen is far fairer than her, and there aren't seven dwarves, and it sounds like there will be no love story.
But, uh, maybe there will still be an apple in the movie?
@@georgebailey8179
It will be changed to something dumb.
It's "Snow white and the Seven people who have nothing in common with each other".
Just watching Gal Gadot's face, knowing that Zegler is going off script way too much, but trying to keep composure. Has me in stitches every time.
Gal is thinking what we are ALL thinking when Sh!te Br0wn speaks
I'm genuinely surprised they aren't renaming it Snow Brown. That's more woke no?
There is no script here.
She's speaking her mind.
You can see in one part of that interview gal doesn't like her. When gal is silent and looks away thinking shit.
Both of them hay hay people, if she really thinks different she can say something
The amount of arrogance she walks around with at her age is astounding
You clearly don’t know a lot of 22 year olds... they’re uniformly vapid, shallow and self-aggrandizing.
It's made possible by the extreme sense of entitlement which has become so prevalent today.
Too many participation trophies.
Many women today have become brainwashed into believing that the true definition of “feminism” and advocating for women’s rights is degrading and hating on men. And this chick is only further pushing that narrative.
Well, the Barbie film actually turned out pretty good (and not so man hating, after all, considering subtleties of script, allegory, etc)
But I don't think, anything, can save this film...
You make some good points, and the upcoming "strong female character" Snow White does sound completely awful. But even OG Snow White isn't timeless. It's just excellent and for that reason, much more enduring than other works. But let's not forget the 1937 film was itself a "modernized" reworking of much older source material, changed in ways that the producers thought 1937 audiences would approve of (e.g. the Queen was SW's biological mother; she's downgraded to step-mother, which is more palette-able; Grimm's Queen was cannibalistic; "wake her with a kiss" never happened in the Grimm OG, it was invented entirely.) So bits of 1937 SW do feel a bit dated, and that's OK, it's still a masterpiece we can enjoy.
No one cares for Snow White though...
I like how Peter Dinklage has made sure he is the only dwarf who can be in movies
What’s more insulting about Rachel’s opinion of Snow White is that millions of women who love Snow White would take the role in a heartbeat, and she’s just acting if it’s a chore. She should be grateful she’s not only being payed to do this, but now she’s the face of Disney’s very first film in a century. Young girls aspire to become their Disney princesses and Rachel has gaslit everyone to think being kind and gentle is weak. Kindness is strong in so many ways.
Paid* Also, brainwashing doesn't equal gaslighting. Gaslighting means trying to convincing someone they are crazy or to at least question their sanity. An actual example of gaslighting:
Person A does something in front of Person B.
Person B: Hey, why'd you do that?
Person A: Do what? You're imagining things.
Person B: No, I'm not.
Person A: You sure about that? Maybe you should see a psychiatrist.
Person B: Maybe you're right . . .
No hate meant, I just see people misuse words all the time.
And she's been in what...2-3 movies so far? Ol girl got a big head for such a noob in the industry. The entitlement is insane in this chick
@@soni7949 power corrupts all, as they say!
Entitlement is in her blood.
@@blaxpoitation8528I guess Disney just wanted someone young, arrogant, and idealistic who could be kept up to speed with all their agendas…
The irony is that Disney’s new age heroines are beginning to act and sound like the villains of the story itself. And they seriously expect us to believe Gal Gadot to be jealous of her looks?
😂😂😂
Like Julia Roberts & lily collins or charlize theron & Kristen stewart
Really??
Lol, but I have to say Lily Collins is a class act by all appearances and seems to be worthy of representing a Disney Princess. Emma Watson “Hermione” gave some misguided feminist soapbox speeches, but still seems grounded and likable. Rachel, on the other hand? Wowww, holy sh*t. Dumping on the original movie like it’s r@cist or something?? What a spoiled generation!
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@@robertweekes5783 true, but I'm only referring of how they look, IMO Julia, Charlize and of course Gal Gadot are beautiful women and the girls... meh
Disney in 2023: it’s a good math lesson… How To Turn Billions Of Dollars Into Negative Billions Of Dollars
As someone who was obsessed with Snow White as a child. (Seriously, I had about eight different versions in book form and about six on video!)
Rachel lacks the most fundamental point of the story and the majority of fairytales....
The Prince is the Reward not the saviour. Snow White is the hero of the story. She's the one who escapes and carves out a life for herself. She could have lain down and waited to be rescued but she didn't! She rolls up her sleeves and gets things done. This spoilt princess who never dirtied her hands on anything before. (The Disney film was a pioneer in coloured animation so they had to do a quick visual to convey the Queen hating Snow White. Hence the Cinderella start which is in no other version.)
Okay, she gets tricked about 3 times but what do you expect from a sheltered naive 14 year old!
I'm getting really sick of female characters only being considered strong if they kick arse and "rescue themselves."
People and situations can't always be punched away or "Girl bossed" through. There are many different types of strength in the world (Which the old Disney cartoons absolutely covered. The female characters aren't wilting wallflowers!
It's actually the very opposite of inclusive!
Snow white inspires me.. My parents said if i get 50K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally
Begging...
Give a woman authority over anything and she will either destroy it or make it about herself.
@@monotech20.14 It's not sexism, it's the truth. You just have never been intimate with a woman to know that they're inferior.
@@monotech20.14Are you a bot? I saw you comment this exact phase in other comment threads.
poor kids nowadays 😢
The original Snow White is honestly a very admirable character. She expects nothing for free, she works hard, she faces an uncertain future with optimism and singing, and she is kind and gentle and always believes better days are coming. Many of her qualities were exactly what Great Depression audiences wanted and needed to see. And I would say we need to see it today too. But today, our society is unable to recognize strength unless it comes in the form of killing bad guys and leading armies into battle. How sad.
I think most, or at least a good portion, of society are still completely normal and can recognize it. It seems like the ones pushing the agenda that are the problem, not the general public. EVERY video I've seen covering liberal nonsense the comment section is 95% opposed to it.
That's why they hate her
She also gets raped in the very old version. I do admire that kind of passiveness in women, I mean she was in a coma, but still! The new one will never be able to live up 2 that.
@@Babyblue115OH GOOD GAWED!!
she does not!
@madhurgupta854omg, no don't you know.that.most fairy tales's original version are pretty brutal? They are meant to be cautionary tales, like what young girls shouldn't do. Those days don't have the filter modern-day people have.
I remember watching a documentary on how they made the original movie. Walt Disney and the team were incredibly invested and it was revolutionary. They did not believe you could watch such a long animation film since it was not something they did back in the day. Many people said it would fail and Disney was trembling at the premier and it was amazing.He planned it for years and it was his baby. It was his great work that changed the history of film and animation. I remeber part of the story was him and the team saying Snow White might get hurt when she runs from the huntsman and later at the forrest, and then laughing seeing how they were soo invested they were starting to beleive she was real. He would be sad watching what they did and who they Casted for his master film, how they are tearing it apart.
I mean, most people put a lot of effort into the movies/books/paintings etc. they create. That does not make them good. So I see the point you are trying to make, but I think it's an irrelevant one to this discussion. And I'm saying this as somebody, who thinks this movie is going to be awful. Still your point is irrelevant.
@@MsBuchnerd Nice, I love when people put others down!
Yeah...... This is exactly what people said to them when they made the original snow white. They said that they were disrespectful of the story and nothing could make the story better!
@@kvnjngit's not putting others down. It's called having different opinions. Pretty normal in human beings
@@MsBuchnerd Correct, just because a lot of effort goes into art doesn't make it good, but in this case, the original Snow White IS GOOD! Not only that, but her point is that Walt put a lot a risk to bring the movie to life. Weather it was good or not, doesn't matter. He would still be disgusted at what this remake is turning into.
1:40 does she even know that the tale of snow white is over 200 years old?
On the topic of "strong female leads," you don't need to look further than any of the girls in a Studio Ghibli film. Take Chihiro from Spirited Away. She was definitely a strong and brave girl, but in the film, we see her get scared and anxious (and who wouldn't be? She's in the spirit world where her parents were turned into pigs). Those moments of vulnerability made the audience want her to succeed because we've ALL been afraid; and so when she emerges victorious, we feel satisfaction. Instead, Disney thinks strong women aren't human.
Sophie Hatter from Howl's Moving Castle (Both the Film and the Book Trilogy) is also an excellent example. :3
Yes, we'll said.
I was thinking something similar rewatching the first two alien movies recently. What makes Ripley such a great protagonist is that she is motivated by fear, relies on her gut and convictions and doesn't allow herself to identify as a victim. It's not about her being the most strong and capable or having a big ego. To me it's why Vasquez is a joke; she thinks empowerment is being a caricature of masculinity. And while Ripley is scared the whole time, she is more brave than any of them because she'll take charge every opportunity that arises.
@@prehistoricturtlesaurus5309 I wouldn't call Vasquez a joke. She's a typical Marine. Notice, however, that when Ripley essentially takes command, Vasquez acknowledges her leadership and accepts her as an equal--earlier, she had thought Ripley was the load they would have to take care of. She stays behind to cover the retreat, and when she goes out (admittedly with Gorman's help), she sacrifices her own life to buy time for the others.
Vasquez may not have been very feminine, but she was a tough female character who didn't have to be turned into a Mary Sue to be that.
@PolarizedMechs Honestly, I don't think any of them acted like typical marines. They acted like grunts. No professionalism, no respect for severity. They were practically comic relief. Think of Vasquez rolling her eyes when Ripley is telling them about her experience with the Xenomorphs or Hudson becoming an emotional burden after the first attack. They are mostly goofballs and shallow characters.
Vasquez, to me, symbolizes the way modern feminism has basically become about embodying your perceived oppressor. Most women in the military I've known are not particularly different than civilian women and don't tend to act like an arrogant jock.
Yes, she took Ripley seriously eventually, but only after they became a rattled mess because they were acting like overconfident teenage boys. Again, Ripley was a hero because she wasn't driven by ego.
Honestly, I felt that Aliens had three well written characters: Ripley, Newt and Bishop. I think the biggest failing of an otherwise great film is that the marines (especially, ones in a military oriented future) act like impulsive, flippant teenagers.
This got me to think about Captain Marvel and how that character portrays ZERO vulnerability in that movie. She hulk too. Oh yeah, and Rey.
"...It's an 85-year old movie..." Yes dear it is. It's an 85-year old movie that literally changed the face of modern film and shook up the studio system forever.
I can't believe this stupid brat was allowed to be in a movie. Without Snow White, regardless what you think of it, NOTHING would have come afterwards. It's THE movie which changed the industry.
Well said.
Highest grossing movie of all time till 1973. ie more than 30 years.
Also..the design of snow white the way they did the face was the inspiration for the exaggerated art style that became modern day anime
I’m fairly certain it was a desperate move as well from the, at the time, “toddler” studio since they were having money issues or something like that at the moment. The beautiful and horrifying thing about desperation is that sometimes the most wonderful things happen when you’re left with no choice but to either rage against the dying light or go softly into that silent night.
I still remember the times when Snow White and fairy tales in general were about friendship and people having fun, and not about power struggles over leadership.
They've managed to suck all the fun and joy out of these stories.
"Suck out the fun and joy" should be Disney's tagline at this point. It's all so bitter, bleak, weak, anti-humanist.
Or "Having fun is racist and patriarchal" "Fun is just what white-straight-cis males enjoy!" Ban entertainment altogether to fight the patriarchy! 🤪
I can imagen the dwarfs letting her die, because they don't like feminists. And the audience will be thrilled 100%. That's a 180 flip.
Zeglers Snow White sounds like fanfiction and she’ll look like a teenager in cosplay - which isn’t a good for someone born in 2001. But she’s a stereotypical Gen Z so 😂.
Idgaf about her skin color. I care that she embodies the literal opposite of what Snow White’s character is. She sneers at traditional femininity, which tells me she’s not really a feminist at all; she’s a faux feminist.
Snow White is a teenage girl that wants to escape an abusive environment and live in peace with her future love. She’s brave af because the huntsman gave her an opportunity to escape, and she took it. She carved out her own life. That’s a huge thing for an abuse victim.
In snow white, the original version, the evil witch was forced to dance in red-hot iron shoes until she died. Fairy tales are not nice, they are warnings for children. But Disney left everything out he didn't like, it was for american kids. He kept more or less to the original story and made a fortune. Now the wokies throw out everything else and just steal the name to push their fascist ideas on everybody. And insult all europeans while they are at it. Same with Cleopatra and the Little mermaid, pissing on our heritage and stealing it, then blackwashing it .
This is a girl who grew up in an upper middle class family going to expensive private schools, and then immediately upon graduating high school started getting big roles in high budget movies. I have no idea how, her dad must have had connections or something.
The point is this is a young person who’s never experienced the real world in any capacity after living an incredibly sheltered life and coming into a ton of wealth at an extremely young age.
I think her perspective on life is pretty fucked as a result. I mean how could you expect someone in such a privileged situation to have any real wisdom at all.
The new era of Disney feels like a teenager throwing a tantrum and doing everything their parent disapproves of, not realizing they're making themselves miserable.
@Nightmaresoule: I’ve had similar thoughts. A lot of adults today act like stupid teenagers, which is very embarrassing.
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@@leastbased well yea, it's not our money they're losing. But the fairytales they're corrupting have a cultural significance. You could also tear down the Eifeltower and replace it with a giant dildo and then ask people why they're so mad, it's just a building.
@@leastbased Many 40 year olds have children and have every right to be disappointed with what is now supposed to be their children's entertainment, seeing how far disney has fallen. Kids deserve better.
@@leastbasedi am a teenager, and i disappointed with this woke actress and movie
Rachel Zegler says it all: The reason why all of those remakes turn into franchise killing flops is not that the audiences don‘t like these characters, movies and series anymore. The reason is that the people who are running these shows nowadays don‘t like them. So one reason is Rachel Zegler, another Kathleen Kennedy.
I don't plan on supporting this movie.
The current crop of creators see past works as a platform to prop up their own ‘superior’ versions, relying on brand recognition and existing fans to support their works. But as past works have shown, fans do not appreciate people butchering their favourites for their own egos.
To me it seems Kathleen is doing what is expected out of her. Hence not fired even after multiple duds.
Its the higher execs that need to change. The ones that convince investors with shiny presentation to get their money.
This was a timeless masterpiece.
I could not care any less about some terrible actress’s vapid opinions.
Well said xx
I don’t think they were her opinions though. I think Disney actually gave her those sentences to remember. They sound rehearsed, memorised. Disney’s marketing department actually gave her those words. They actually think this angle would sell more tickets.
agree except Rachel Ziegler and gal gadot are both dudes. yuck.
Usually, when the studios change everything i ask myself "why didn't they call it something else" and my common sense inner voice usually answers "because money" but here i ask again... why not call it something else?
I mean, usually when they change everything, they say some BS like "it's a diffetent medium" or "it wouldn't work in this day and age" or whatever which, while definitely not a great justification, at leat keep the apperances that they are trying something new and still have respect for the original piece but here, the actress is just about calling the original movie a piece of shit in public statements without the studio pressing her to retract. So in thid particular case, there's no ambiguity: the studio or at least the team behind this movie hate The original Snow White movie (and probably the original fairy tale too). We have a snow white that doesn't have fair skin, that doesn't care for love and is all about becoming queen, the dwarves are dwarves and don't work the mines and will probably have a much lesser role as to keep the focus on Snow White. Also, If there's no prince to save Snow Whites i guess she won't fall for the evil queen tricks either or save herself. So at this point, what is even left of the original story. Why not call it "The Princess and the Bandits" or something? Some people might have enjoy this more than a Snow White remake that hate to be a Snow White remake.