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I’m 2 minutes in and just noticed, in the first movie she wasn’t even allowed to train until she was a teenager, but she was able to compete in that super dangerous and intricate obstacle course when she was 7?!?
@@IgnizNova Right, but I meant more the fact that her mother didn’t allow her to do anything remotely dangerous until her teenage years in the first film, but in this film she’s doing super dangerous obstacle courses at 7 years old...
Yeah there are several inconsistencies between the first one and other films that wonder woman has been in so far. It's honestly just embarrassingly bad writing
Also, shouldn't it traumatize him because he died on explosion on the first Wonder Woman movie? And how the fuck they can fly with a plane in museum which it's supposed to be museum figurine and how did it have fuels?
You gotta love a "feminist" movie where the conflict results from one woman being jealous of another woman's looks, and then the boss battle is a literal cat fight.
@@max5845 oh it’s hot garbage juice. I enjoyed it but I was also tripping balls and had fun despite and sometimes due to the camp. I don’t thing many will argue that this movie is a hot mess- but using it as an opportunity to shit on “feminism” is fedora energy
@@jeshuavv8326 I'm not. I'm making fun of how the feminist culture surrounds the Wonder Woman franchise, with a character that is portrayed as heroic and powerful in the first movie, and then in this movie she's literally a husk of a human being without a man, and her main boss battle is a woman who was jealous of her shoes. I just find it amusing that a director such as Patty Jenkins, whose work often has feminity as a major theme, honestly thought that this movie effectively communicated that theme as well.
I love how Steve is basically a handbag. Don't worry about hijacking an innocent man to bring your boyfriend back, or dispose of said boyfriend afterwards. He's just an accessory.
“Success should be earned, not given,“ says the woman born with invincibility, super strength, immortality, regeneration, and apparently also flight, and turning things invisible and intangible to radar but tangible to human butts.
@@ddd8828 Visible light and radio (upon which "RAdio Detection And Ranging" aka "radar" depends) are just different frequencies of electromagnetic radiation. Apparently the invisibility also applies to radar. You know, "Radar invisibility" like stealth is? So it's possible to do both to an object the size of a Tornado/F-111 Aardvark hybrid with the same field effect (assuming anyone other than Harry Potter could do it.) Just...not with the tech we have today.
Just like the F35. It's invisible folks! What? You don't need to make things invisible to make them undetectable by radar? Radar is not a visual detection system?
@@stevejordan7275 Hmm I think you are conflating two very different things. Sight involves receiving EMR from objects. So one possible way to be invisible is to bend light around yourself so the observer literally sees around you. Another way is to use cameras to project the image behind you on your own body surface. Radar works by bouncing radio waves off objects and receiving its echo. So how would she be accomplishing both at the same time? The way you say it is obvious but its not obvious to me. Plus you know stealth jets aren't invisible to the eye right?
My ten year old son pointed out during a trailer that she was flying but wasn't in the Justice League movie. It's bad when a ten year old can point out such things.
My wife really wanted to see this because she liked the first one. She fell asleep halfway through. We tried again to watch it about a week later. She fell asleep again. So I've had to suffer through it twice while she blissfully napped.
If it was that bad, why the heck didn't you turn it off (both times) when she fell asleep. If she woke and asked why the movie had stopped then tell her you paused it while she 'rested her eyes'. I can see that you are either inexperienced or not very good at the husband role in life. 😂😂
The best comment I read on another video about this movie was, “I almost walked out of my own house!” I’m still laughing at that one! 🤣😂🤣😂 Original comment by Jonathan B!
Right? I mean, that suggests that all the wishes were things people didn't really need. What if there were people out there wishing for food or medicine?
and what about the guy that made the very first wish in the movie --- for a coffee. Does he... have to.. vomit it back up? Did he never get it in the first place? He didn't even know he wished for it.
I took my kids to see at our local AMC because I want to keep my theater open and fuck giving HBO more of my money. They enjoyed it so money well spent lol
That's a liberal for you, living in their bubble-like echo chamber. I had thought Patty Jenkins was normal. I never heard anything stupid from her when the first one came out and she seemed concerned only with making a good movie. But now we have the real Patty Jenkins on display with writing credits this time, complete with her self-proclaimed Donald Trump villain. Ugh, i am done with this woman now. I won't see anything else she makes (luckily, I did not see this, and now I won't see it).
LOL OMG that's ridiculous. This is a Trainwreck that I wanted to love..but it's SO MEH, you can't even remember why you started watching it in the first place..
This is sort of why I could never get into comic movies...I get so confused because they just don't follow any linear plot. Shit is coming from everywhere and I have no idea what the fuck is going on, or more importantly,..WHY !? lol. The last comic/super hero movies i watched was the first Iron man, and the first two Spiderman movies. That's how annoying it got for me.
Dianna: “Check out this moving staircase!” Steve: “Oh, you mean an escalator… a technology invented in the 1880’s and in use when I was alive? Oh goodness... a trash can!”
I know, right? How was he so in awe of a freaking trash can?? Presumably, he'd been walking around in that guy's body for, at least, a few days. He already been out walking the streets trying to find Diana. Are we seriously to believe during all of that he'd never come across a trash can? Man, if that's true than the horse less carriages must've scared the hell out of him. Ha!
@@donxavier10 To be fair, he was not "in awe of a trash can." He was told he was in an art exhibit so he was trying to understand why this trash can was considered art by these future people. Similar to an episode of Columbo where Columbo asks for an explanation of the air vent in a modern art exhibit. He knew what it was, he just wondered if it had some significance in that spot he was not aware of.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 That is not correct. Bakelite, the first completely synthetic plastic, was invented in 1907, patented in 1909 and already used quite a lot in 1914. So even if he had never used, let's say a bakelite telephone, he would surely have heard about synthetic materials and even if _that_ would not have been the case, I highly doubt he would freak out like that about _those._ And how many things made of plastic must he have seen already _before_ that trash can? Why was he not freaking out about, let's say, plastic train seats? Seriously, they've chosen the most ridiculous reasons for him to freak out possible. A completely electrified city could have been impressive. The amount of car traffic. Computers. Women dressing like what might have looked to him like prostitutes. TV, for heavens sake. And anyway - how the hell is it possible that he is crossing half the city without seeing even _one_ magic, awe-inducing trash can all the way? And how and why is he still freaking out about a trash can, when is ability to be excited must have been depleted by now by all those other amazing things he must have seen?
The mainstream news in Australia has been singing its praises saying it’s the film we need for 2020, so you instantly know it’s going to be utter shit.
Yeah my wife is fully on board with how amazing ots gonna be without seeing it. About yo call her now to let her know its utter garbage that noone likes
I have chronic insomnia and legitimately can almost never sleep without the aid of medications. And I STILL managed to fall asleep during this masterpiece.
@@bighands69 Her best role is in The Martian, probably because Ridley Scott told her to shut the f*ck up and stop trying to be funny. She's awful in pretty much everything else.
@@johnallen3033 ugh the Monkey's Paw analogy they kept hitting us over the head with became tiresome quickly. They kept saying how the wishes were analogous to the MP but left out the one aspect that would've completely sunk their story: the MP wishes could not be renounced.
Not to mention the implication behind the poor man who got body snatched by Steve. Probably lost his job and family and his life is utterly ruined. But you go gurl
but if it lets radiation in the visible spectrum pass through, there's no reason it can't also be letting other frequencies pass through. IRL it doesn't work, but magic is magic
I love how they posses some random guys body with Trevor's soul, without this guys input at all, constantly put him in danger, and his body and Diana have sex (again with out his input) which is essentially a 4 letter R word, if you reverse the genders and make that a woman who was possessed the movie would get savaged by the SJWs and be shoved into obscurity
Bless you, you're right. You forgot about real life actual laws ( american and especially english) where a woman is not able to be charged with RAPE even though guilty as sin
@@michaelmurphy2112 Well I don't want my body to be possessed by someone else ever lol so count me out. Plus is the guy really experiencing the sex or is his consciousness just shoved aside and is basically asleep? I haven't seen the movie and never will so I don't know.
@@dangerdan2592 The film doesn't really explain it well, tbh, but what little the audience is given basically implies that the poor guy is suppressed so far down in his own body that he's basically comatose and has no shown reaction to being meat-puppeted by Trevor. I'm honestly still horrified that Diana is so blasé about using his body to get her love interest back that she doesn't even reconsider jumping his bones without any consent and just, you know, not being a horrible person. Also, she doesn't apologise to the poor guy for having his body hijacked by Trevor, either, so the poor man is essentially left with a chunk of his memory missing once Trevor returns to the afterlife, too. Although, given that happened to his body while he was down and out, that might've been the closest thing to kindness he got here...
I actually couldn't get through this film. Yes, that bad. When she just suddenly decided that she could fly unexpectedly, I said "okay, I'm done." The whole invisible jet thing and grabbing a bullet FROM BEHIND with her magic lasso almost made me quit, but the flying thing was the final straw.
@@Not_Always They didn't even have to go with the Aqua Net flare, just give her a normal bob or the Pat Benatar look that millions of high school girls sported in the early 80s.
Man of steel in retrospection is actually a really good film. Probably the only DC film you can say that about. (wonder wahman 1 was a racist pile of cr@p)
Did anyone notice how Diana's childhood story got rewritten? In the first movie, it shows her training hard as an adult but still getting her ass kicked. In 1984, they made her perfect at 10 years old. She would have won the competition against a bunch of grown Amazons, the only thing that stopped her was her being snatched out of the competition for cheating. It made her skills feel unearned, which totally erased what we learned about her in the first movie. What a disgrace.
The whole Amazon Olympics is point less. In the first movie, Diana’s mother WOULDNT allow her to train until she’s a teenager. Yet in WW84, the intro is literally just that training before she’s a teenager.
I knew it! Thank you! I kinda remember this but not really remember the exact word so I don't really think about it but now!!! Yes, this WW84 is a hotpile plot holes garbage movie
It’s even pointless within the scene itself. Though Diana falls off her horse, the horse keeps going as though she was still on it. Her “shortcut” didn’t give her any advantage, and even made her miss one of the arrow targets. Cheated? More like she was a 10 year old who didn’t make the right decision and would’ve lost either way.
You know I'm starting to like this logic of "Steve flew a biplane so he can fly a modern jet fighter". I can drive my car so I should be perfectly capable to drive a high performance race car.
Even that analogy is far off. You could at least figure out how to start it and the steering brakes and gear changes. Hell he wouldn’t even know how to open the canopy to get in. Let alone start it , take off flaps retractable landing gear. Speeds to take off /land other flap controls while flying increases decreased power. All the other avionics.It be like saying I rode a tricycle as a child while living noncontacted tribe (besides the tricycle )in the Amazon hopping on a race motorcycle and coming in 1st place
Aladdin had a pretty interesting take on the wishing for infinite power thing. Jafar wishing to be a genie for the powers and getting his wish but with the added consequence of being confined to a lamp of his own for all eternity. No Aladdin 2 would ever ruin that.
Remember when Gal Gadot ended Covid with her, and her out of touch Hollywood elite’s rendition of “Imagine?” The movie deserves praise for that alone. If I’m not mistaken Wiig showed up in that too. So stunning, so brave.
seeing diana as a child be able to run and move just as fast as other amazonian women who have been training their whole lives makes it seem like diana is really just someone who got their whole life handed to them. she's already the fastest and strongest without being past the age of 10, talk about working for what you want
Because that’s what women think they are: goddesses who should be loved and adored unconditionally without having to grind. There is a reason why matriarchy never worked anywhere.
@@Memoiana yeah its hilarious how all modern feminist movies nowadays who aim to educate the general public fail at that. We live in a society in which most modern self called feminists are the ones who deep down consider women inferior to men by giving them extra leverage.
There's a line she says about having to let Steve go "Why for once can't I have this one thing?" I don't know who wrote that line or who agreed on it but that line perfectly represents the blatant lack of self awareness of this movie. The first WW I thought was decent, but then I learned Gal Gadot isn't such a great actress and wow does it show in this sequel. Those "emotional" scenes made me cringe. Best thing about this movie was Pedro Pascal imo. But the way his character was written... You can make any wish come true and you want more oil? ...what? And that totally forced in Lynda Carter bit was just the final nail in the coffin.
The mere fact she didn't have her sword and shield, because she's a pacifist now or whatever, that was enough to make some of the action scenes a lot less fun.
For the final act when Max grants everyones wishes around the world, im quite surprised that there was no random doomer in his dingy living room wishing that the world would have ended. Just saying.
I don't even think video cameras were even that ubiquitous in 1984. I think only in the later 80's did they become a thing. And even then you had the problem of sufficient storage. They were either just re-recorded over the same VHS tape or used time lapse recording.
What shocked me the most to A Clockwork Orange level was the movie showing sexual assault of a man is okay. The juxtaposition of Barbara saying no twice is supposed to be a nod to no means no and me too and times up but Wonder Woman having sex with a guy that her boyfriend is in mental possession of while the actual body owner is coma unconscious is disgusting and revolting. I guess the writers of WW84 thought rape of females is bad, but the rape of males is okay if the female assaulter is not ugly. From DC's own website about Wonder Woman, "Wonder Woman has stood for nearly eighty years as a symbol of truth, justice, and equality. Diana has made it her duty to lead by example." To top it off the director Patty Jenkins said, "It's a trope since the 80's, get over it." Patty doesn't understand that sometimes tropes are bad and if you do use a bad trope maybe lampshade the situation, but lampshading is reserved for writers that understand there is a problem to begin with.
@@discipleofdeath2517 some are actually pretty good, but 90% of them get made with a budget lower than $1 million, to spend 200x times that and end up with a worse movie is a good achievement, must be in top 10 flops.
Everyone points out the ridiculousness of Steve being able to fly modern fighter jet when he only flew WWI era bi planes. I wondered how he knew how to drive a modern automobile, when in 1918 the few models available had a top speed of around 30 mph. They also had totally different controls and handling characteristics. he'd be freaking out when he hit 40-50 mph.
Well automobiles unlike planes have gotten easier to operate over time and the layout really hasn't changed much. Unlike jets vs biplanes I wonder were he learned to use the flaps on take off his planes didn't have or need it but that jet does.
@@ChiefManny1 which is funny cause they even discussed how the old planes couldn’t go that far. Yet ignore that new planes also can’t go that far when they are the same small size
This is also the problem with jumping throughout time as a franchise progresses. They get a new idea or decide to implement an existing one that hasn't been depicted yet (Wonder Woman flying), but they implement in a "new" entry to the franchise set in the past. Multiverse has similar issues where nothing that happens really matters because they can always reset the clock or hop to an alternate reality, but it's much less egregious. Although I still think the Multiverse stuff has its problems but it is undeniable from a cash-grab standpoint.
First time I watched this movie I was ABSOLUTELY WASTED and it didn't really make any sense to me... The 2nd time I watched it sober and it made EVEN LESS SENSE...
I feel the opposite actually. I thought the comfort-food visual/pop cultural nostalgia was surprisingly weak compared to those shows. Instead, they tried to lean into an 80's-relevant theme--taking down "Greed Is Good"--and completely shat the bed.
they failed to even meet that comical standard. this felt like a modern era movie where some people decide to dress and act like its still the 80s. oh yeah, just like modern era.
seriously the battle with Ares was lame with "i believe in love" as a punchline. At least WW84 embraced its cheesyness and tried to go for a positive message with a heartfull speech. Not perfect but i definitely saw the first good DCEU movie
This is the biggest problem when you have leftist woman creating the stuff of our childhood.Hollywood won’t stop until we say no more and watch them lose billions.
Because the Wish Stone pre-human host kind of sucked. Compare the three wishes it granted (coffee, superpowers, and back-to-life) with what comes later, with massive walls and nukes and whatnot. Clearly there's a massive power difference between what the stone could accomplish and what Max could accomplish.
@@roguebarbarian9133 Pre-human host it destroyed like five civilisations with no sign at all that age deteriorated the power in any way. It was made by a mischief god. The wishes were weak in the start of the movie because they were made in passing as a joke since they had no idea (“I wish I was like Diana” and “I know what I would wish for”), and even then it’s a hell of a strong wish for the superpowers from a demigod to be ripped out and to bring a guy back to life. Max Lord knows what it is and makes each wish with a lot more straightforward purpose and conviction, so they ramp up faster. I don’t think the human host thing has anything to do with it other than giving a more convenient way to receive and coerce more wishes. Max even uses it to take itself out of him.
Probably one of those Eastern Hippie Astrology correlations so the "Meat Suit" isn't a zombie. BUT. I always wondered. Was that poor hapless Gay Man spending his time in the "Quantum Leap"Nexus? That poor fellow putting his "Meat-Suit" back on must have felt like the last pair of socks in the dirty laundry bag. "Diana Violated my Sodomite Ass!' I'm going to Sue Someone!😝
Oh God. Kirsten Wiig looked like she should've been an extra in that awful nightmare inducing movie adaptation of Cats, not fighting Wonder Woman in the 1980's.
The funniest thing about it all is that, if they were going to be lazy about the Cheetah model, they could have just re-used the one that was already made for Injustice 2.
Also: max is a genie, Diana raped a man that was in the sunken place that was replaced with Steve, and why was Max’s son Filipino? How would turning the jet invisible matter to radar? How could Steve fly a fighter jet but didn’t know what a trash can was?? My head hurts
How did Steve get directions to fly to Egypt? Also, who was the man who Steve inhabited? Surely he must have known Diana was treating him like someone else 🤔
In my opinion steve posessing some other body is the most baffling thing about this entire movie simply because there's absolutly no reason why they would do it like this. There's no stated limit on the stone's power so why not have it just recreate the actual steve with it's own body? And when diana has to renounce her wish have steve crumble into dust.
W Steve possessing this rando guys body all I thought of after that is a “special episode “ of Quantum Leap 😂 (the OG one. Not the current made garbage) They should have just thrown Al in there w ziggy and would have been more plausible than this.
yea unfortunately Patty Jenkins admitted that after the success of the first Wonder Woman, the studio and producers wanted more control & influence in the sequel. She also was not happy about the outcome
I was appalled at how lazy the details were in this story...A fully fueled and ready aircraft at a museum that can fly non-stop from Washington DC to Cairo and back (apparently) without refueling, avoiding RADAR by turning jet invisible but the jet still creates atmospheric phenomena, radar that detects ground vehicles and displays them like someone who's never actually seen a radar screen thinks it would, the lasso of truth that apparently is as long as it needs to be for something to happen (swinging on buildings and lightning, WTAF?! Spiderman), or WW now flying. It was a hot mess that my daughter laughed at in a way as to say WTAF herself. Also, I never got the Trump vibe from the antagonist, but was pissed about how every man was a buffoon, bumbling idiot, or complete misogynist. Projecting much, Patty?
Museums drain all the fluids out of their exhibit vehicles for safety and to prevent dripping. Wonder Woman turned into Spider Man, Superman and Indiana Jones in this movie and never once asked someone to tell the truth with her lasso. Except maybe at the end where her lasso crawled like a snake around bad guy's ankle. But supposedly he took back his wish on his own. The movie was terrible.
@@GigglingStoners you think Trump built that wall himself? Most was already there. You think Trump is build the only wall ever? China would like to tell you about their Great Wall.......eff outta here.
They want this movie to have Marvel “feel” but it comes off cringy. They should stick with the detective theme, maybe they’ll be more successful that way.
Someone said it should tie with the Cold War theme that plagued the 80's and I agree. Imagine if they put Reagan, Tatcher and Gorbachov in this shit instead of the bs romance. They didn't leatn anything from Ultron, where the romance was the last liked plot (I actually like it after the whole saga was completed).
The first movie may have a few problems, but it was fun and managed to do what Captain Marvel tried so hard and failed. I still can't believe how bad this movie is.
@Greg Elchert he didn't tho, he actually reduced the Nazi partie's popularity when he ran for chancellor and became increasely opposed to Hitler. by the time hitler came to power he not only had retired but he was speaking out against hitler publically. not defending the gie, he was considered too radical by the Nazis. but he wasn't apart of the holocaust and if anything delayed it by his unpopularity. (ofcaurse if he did have anypower when the holocaust happened he would have liked it)
It drives me absolutely insane that the climax of the movie involves relying on LITERALLY EVERY HUMAN ON EARTH RENOUNCING THEIR WISHES. I'd be willing to bet not even 5% of those who made wishes would be willing to renounce them; humans are inherently selfish, and would undoubtedly be loathe to give up their deepest wishes come true even to save the world, especially since they generally would be doing so for no apparent gain. I, standing in my living room with my wish granted, would likely notice no difference in the world if I gave up my wish, so why the hell would I? I tend to think of myself as a generally good person, and having my wish taken from me seems like a "Nothing to gain, everything to lose" scenario.
Exactly. I have yet to figure out what was the point of having it in 1984 other that allowing Patty to make a simpler movie. Which is what she made, a simple movie.
Probably a significant number or date to the creator or special issue of wonder woman in the original comics I assume. Cauze why specific on 1984. Why not early 90's? The logic of any superhero movie is there's always an infinite time line so logic is never there 😂
I like how Kristin Wiig "loses her humanity" as a side effect of the stone... And not just the natural process of what happens when the ignored girl becomes a smokeshow and starts getting all the attention.
@@blackenedwritings Haha, right? I recall watching the Yesterday movie about the Beatles and the nerdy-ish woman kept looking familiar, until halfway into the movie, it dawned on me that she was Cinderella. No glasses at all.
@@blackenedwritings meanwhile, young attractive women can't be renowned doctors. not criticizing or anything, I'm just curious about these tropes and how default appearances are taken as granted. I'm actually starting to rethink about my prejudices - or at least I'm trying to see them from a distance. (About time.)
Yeah...I couldn't remember them saying the jet had some newfangled secret design with miniaturised nuclear propulsion a'la Hunt For Red October submarines (similar era) lol. Not to mention it was supposedly in a museum...cringe
I love how she took the "short cut" slide as a kid in the competition, yet her horse, who went the long way, ended up at the bottom to catch her at the same time. Feels like she could have just stayed on the horse, but hey that's just me.
I was shocked by how this was. It’s embarrassing how they act like the world didn’t look into what nearly cause Armageddon and then just magically disappeared
I'm glad you pointed out how stupid the Presidents wish was. He was clearly based off of Reagan and Reagan would of wished for Strategic Missile Defense not more nukes.
S T R A T E G I C D E F E N S E I N I T I A T I V E Which is legit one of the closest things we ever got to sci fi superweapons IRL, albeit in a purely defensive role
@@tlshortyshorty5810 Reagan had class and charisma and movie star good looks. Can't have that! Right, right..... Let's find a mediocre actor who looks and acts nothing like President Reagan. Yeah, we've got a mediocre actor who looks like a young Trump in the villain role. That's all we need to pander to feminists and the woke mob.
@@flaviomonteiro1414 Imagine living the worst live you can. Boom wish helps you undo this and this random person tells you to take it back and go live that live again. Sorry but no i dont think every person will take back their wishes thats just wishfull thinking.
@@mbos14 yeah, i would want better, struggling with dissability my whole life trying to get assistance for it. not able to have much for myself cause lack of security
Actually, Diana NEVER spoke her wish out loud. She said "I know what I'd wish for" and that was it, the dildo stone just like, read her mind? And yet when Max becomes the didlo stone he requires every wish to be spoken to him. That plothole needs some traffic cones around it or maybe the story loses a tire or two, naah it'll be fine!
@@KindestofWinds yeah, I was falling asleep when that happened and I perked up and said: "when did she f-king learn how to fly?!" My husband just shrugged.
Your lover died and you live the next 40 years doing nothing to enrich your personal life. That is the number one thing wrong with this film. Why not have a new lover and have something happen to him which requires you to risk your life to save him. You are Wonder Woman, living in a shell makes you a very unappealing character in the movies and in real life.
She convinced the entire world to give back their wishes??? Jesus christ, did she sing another "viral video" to the world? Bc that was real believable irl.
Dude she achieved saving people in the movie by just singing imagine, I think she should stop method acting cuz Im thinking it made her believe she could have people give up living their lives by singing imagine
re: "Jesus christ(Christ), did she sing another ....." 1. Nahhhh ... Jesus Christ does not read comments on TH-cam. 2. Anyone else you care to write to? 3. Ehhh?
not really, she convinced the first person to make the wish that made him the wish granter recent his wish..which means all the other wishes became nul and void.
@@NickPCage then what was the point of everyone saying they renounced their wish after he already said that? It's obvious the screenwriters didn't intend for it all to end because max renounced his wish
A film that tells the message "you have to work for everything in life"... While not bothering to do the narrative work needed to get the point across in a way that "shows" rather than "tells" the audience.
@@Rx37Legacy How do you figure that? From where I'm standing the film doesn't send a feminist message at all: Wonder Woman's entire character arc and internal conflict revolve around loving a man, and there are very few moments in the movie where she's at all proactive.
Well, this whole thing of wishing stuff and magically getting them, but with other consequences, kinda proves this "you have to work for everything" point. Not defending the movie or anything, just saying that it did try...
Really? The message I got was that women can’t have a man and their power. Also that sleeping with a unwilling participant is super cool as long as your Gal Gadot.
All I remember about this movie was the horrid special effects. When Diana rescued the two kids towards the end and they all went tumbling, it was so obviously 2 small mannequins. How the he'll did that make it into the final cut?
@@mattthompson3714 The premise is still intact. The game, aside from bugs and a lack of customization and AI, can be described as an "unpolished gem", through and through.
"Remember the invisible jet? That part of wonder woman that was universally made fun of because it was stupid that a flying goddess would drive it. Lets put it in the movie."
“Not only that, let’s make it integral to the plot, and give no explanation, so that not only will it be ridiculous, it’ll be a ridiculous deus ex machina”
The sad thing is I could throw a stick in the air and it would land on twelve unknown screenwriters who could come up with a better story before coffee.
I would accept that. But if it isn’t preaching a so called progressive message in the guise of a nostalgia fest, then it’s just a poor plodding paced film.
I add to that. Zack Synder wrote the first movie. And now this movie has new writers and Patty Jenkins. Yes. Her as writer and Director = Fail. Should had keep Zack as writer.
I agree it would've been interesting to see Diana deal with the increasing loss of her powers and the reprocussions, stress, and fear it should cause as she loses the abilities she always had so easily. And it would be fun to see the tension and then teamwork as she realizes she needs to rely on Steve more heavily to help her in fights and come up with clever strategy over strength to get around her new weakness. Also we need to see the evidence of the life of the guy Steve took over creeping in on them as his work, friends and family call him and the guilt over stealing his life. In the end wouldn't it be both of them sacrificing the selfish choice with not just Diana but also Steve not willing to steal someones life? They could then at least acknowledge life is precious even if people are flawed. Making just about her broken heart and Steve wanting her to have powers back is disappointing. In Justice League Diana, is portrayed as people weren't worth saving anymore and she only fights if the threat is world devastation. Rather unheroic attitude for a hero movie You know I wonder how the writers miss basic stoey arcs. Dont they read books or watch influential movies? Wait nevermind, DC movies are written by committee.
It will be used until the heat death of the universe, maybe even beyond. It's the similar excuse for when female chess players can't compete with male ones. "It's the patriarchy's fault! It makes every single one of the female players BELIEVE they can't so they don't! But they totally could!"
Plenty of male directors and comic book creators trot out the same line over and over again. Have so for decades. It's the go-to cliche insult when they get called out on screwing up and/or making their female character of choice an unlikable bitch instead of a relatable human being.
@@jwilson6650 That's not the point. The poor (missing) soul lost the use of his own body. What if Steve had gotten killed while fighting with Diana? An innocent man would have been dead. No one even mentioned his name in the story or seemed to care one whit about him - huge moral oversight.
@@KenOtwell Sure. You attributed the foul act to Steve, though. He used the body, but he himself didn't steal it. By saying he did you are letting Diana (and the writers, let's be honest) off the hook.
@@jwilson6650 Oh come on, that's a stretch. You think Chris Pine wrote his own lines and not the writers? Of course ultimately the writers wrote the story and all the lines, but IN the story, Steve 'came to possess" someone's body and by not even remotely considering the other person over the days he had possession, I would call that willfull theft. if you found a million dollars in a wallet with a drivers license and didn't return it, at some point that becomes theft. But yes - you are right that Diana was just as guilty.
@@KenOtwell Jeez, you just described it wrong, is all. But if you want to get into it, let's say Steve (the character) stole the body. Shouldn't he also have the power to give it back? So how would he go about doing that, in the confines of the movie?
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Then, I need to put Leave it to Beaver DVD in the garbage can now, and finally, I need to watch Scott Pilgrim vs the World on DVD again, okay?
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I’m 2 minutes in and just noticed, in the first movie she wasn’t even allowed to train until she was a teenager, but she was able to compete in that super dangerous and intricate obstacle course when she was 7?!?
Yep I noticed that too.
cause the "I was born special" thing I think
@@IgnizNova Right, but I meant more the fact that her mother didn’t allow her to do anything remotely dangerous until her teenage years in the first film, but in this film she’s doing super dangerous obstacle courses at 7 years old...
Yeah there are several inconsistencies between the first one and other films that wonder woman has been in so far. It's honestly just embarrassingly bad writing
That's because she haz balls of steel!
This movie was awesome. I liked the part where I turned it off after 45 minutes, after coming to the same conclusion most people had reached.
This is actually funny though 😂🤣
Same😂
Had me in the first half, not gonna lie.
Did you copy and paste the other dudes comment or did he copy yours?
Literally a word for word stolen comment you should be embarassed
This movie was so bad that half the audience walked out. Unfortunately, it was shown on a plane flying over Kansas.
XD
Even though it’s a copy and paste comment this one always makes me laugh 😂😂
@Ludwig Paiste It would have made for a better movie
The interwebs was just won!
The unfortunate part was for those still on the plane.
The fact that Diana doesn't question the body Steve Trevor is using shows that she has a lot more in common with daddy Zeus than she cares to admit.
Like father like daughter
You mean daddy Ares issues :P
@@reedr7142
Whos her daddy now?😂
@@reedr7142 no he means Zeus, the god that slept with everyone in greek mythology
@@DotyFuzz Whether they consented to it or not
I was genuinely more excited for the Drinker's review of this movie than the movie itself.
Same! lol
You and me both mate
Yep
Same
Yeah soon as I watched it Christmas Day (and was appalled) Ive looked forward to this review
I love how Steve looks on in wonder at these new things called fireworks. To be fair, they had only existed for a millennia or so before WW1.
Yeah understandable that he didn't know them if thats true
And trashcan and subways.
That’s poor research on the writers’ part. Funny; aside from that miss, the movie really followed a cogent storyline.
Also, shouldn't it traumatize him because he died on explosion on the first Wonder Woman movie? And how the fuck they can fly with a plane in museum which it's supposed to be museum figurine and how did it have fuels?
@@margarethmichelina5146 magic fuel
You gotta love a "feminist" movie where the conflict results from one woman being jealous of another woman's looks, and then the boss battle is a literal cat fight.
This comment reeks of fedora and Mom’s attic
@@jeshuavv8326 You saw the movie right? Tell me that I'm wrong.
@@max5845 oh it’s hot garbage juice. I enjoyed it but I was also tripping balls and had fun despite and sometimes due to the camp. I don’t thing many will argue that this movie is a hot mess- but using it as an opportunity to shit on “feminism” is fedora energy
@@jeshuavv8326 I'm not. I'm making fun of how the feminist culture surrounds the Wonder Woman franchise, with a character that is portrayed as heroic and powerful in the first movie, and then in this movie she's literally a husk of a human being without a man, and her main boss battle is a woman who was jealous of her shoes. I just find it amusing that a director such as Patty Jenkins, whose work often has feminity as a major theme, honestly thought that this movie effectively communicated that theme as well.
@@max5845 I’ll agree with you there. I have no idea what they were thinking.
"Never mind. Those are just details, and details are for losers". A great summation of modern writing.
I love how Steve is basically a handbag. Don't worry about hijacking an innocent man to bring your boyfriend back, or dispose of said boyfriend afterwards. He's just an accessory.
The loving boyfriend being a total dork comedy relief is literally a fucking teenager first fanfic tier level of writing..
The least manly thing to do about it is whine
Strong female character hung up on a man she knew for a few days 70 years ago. 👍👍
That's all men are aren't we? Work horses and arm candy?
@@cookingonthecheapcheap6921 Don't forget cannon fodder.
“Success should be earned, not given,“ says the woman born with invincibility, super strength, immortality, regeneration, and apparently also flight, and turning things invisible and intangible to radar but tangible to human butts.
She doesn’t make things “intangible”.
@@TheDarkLord6.6.6 Explain why the the radar didn't work
@@ddd8828 Visible light and radio (upon which "RAdio Detection And Ranging" aka "radar" depends) are just different frequencies of electromagnetic radiation.
Apparently the invisibility also applies to radar. You know, "Radar invisibility" like stealth is?
So it's possible to do both to an object the size of a Tornado/F-111 Aardvark hybrid with the same field effect (assuming anyone other than Harry Potter could do it.)
Just...not with the tech we have today.
Just like the F35. It's invisible folks! What? You don't need to make things invisible to make them undetectable by radar? Radar is not a visual detection system?
@@stevejordan7275 Hmm I think you are conflating two very different things. Sight involves receiving EMR from objects. So one possible way to be invisible is to bend light around yourself so the observer literally sees around you. Another way is to use cameras to project the image behind you on your own body surface. Radar works by bouncing radio waves off objects and receiving its echo. So how would she be accomplishing both at the same time? The way you say it is obvious but its not obvious to me. Plus you know stealth jets aren't invisible to the eye right?
My ten year old son pointed out during a trailer that she was flying but wasn't in the Justice League movie. It's bad when a ten year old can point out such things.
What are you trying to say? Do you want your son to be dumb?
@@flobbie87 What are talking about? A ten year old that point out stuff most adult miss isn't dumb.
@@dogfacedsoldier327, of course, but you wrote that it is bad that your son is able to do it. That is probably not what you mean. But you wrote it.
@@dogfacedsoldier327 it’s bad because that means the film was made terribly. You have horrible reading comprehension
That's right!
What's canon?
My wife really wanted to see this because she liked the first one. She fell asleep halfway through. We tried again to watch it about a week later. She fell asleep again. So I've had to suffer through it twice while she blissfully napped.
So sorry for your loss.
If it was that bad, why the heck didn't you turn it off (both times) when she fell asleep. If she woke and asked why the movie had stopped then tell her you paused it while she 'rested her eyes'. I can see that you are either inexperienced or not very good at the husband role in life. 😂😂
Lol
I pirated this shit for free and still somehow feel like I was robbed.
Same. I switched it off after 30 minutes or so, and feel like it was 30 minutes I could have been doing something useful.
Robbed of your time
"You get what you pay for."
@@autismisuncontrollable4925 time is your most precious commodity in this life
Your time, yes you were robbed
Almost walked out of my own house while watching this one
LoL
Lol. Yeah, it was bad.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
HAHA, thanks for the laugh. DIdn't walk out of the house, but, I turned off the TV and walked out of the room...
Well that's what you get for supporting that garbage. You knew that was gonna happen. Your fault.
The best comment I read on another video about this movie was, “I almost walked out of my own house!” I’m still laughing at that one! 🤣😂🤣😂 Original comment by Jonathan B!
LOL!!!
Hahahahaha
Oh my gosh that’s hysterical 🤣🤣🤣
I walked put of my living room. Went back to see the end because I hate leaving things unfinished
THAT is funny!
Imagine a dad losing his child from disease and wishing them back just for Diana to say that your wish is a mistake and you should take it back
yeah wonder woman 3 is cancelled
Well given the alternative is the world collapsing and both the parent and the child being dead afterward, I’m sure it wouldn’t be THAT difficult
@@Basedbrawler YES I'M TOLD ABOUT GAL GADOT OUT AS WONDER WOMAN. i wish wonder woman will be RECAST.
@@rodrigodicandia6932 Mmmm. I wonder why that might be, eh?
@@DraftySatyr yeah dceu is dead rip 2013-2023
The most unbelievable thing in the movie is the fact that she got every single person in the world to take back their wish
Right? I mean, that suggests that all the wishes were things people didn't really need. What if there were people out there wishing for food or medicine?
@@brianfrisbie8106 Or lost loved ones?
Was that the part where she sang “imagine there’s no possessions”? 🧐
and what about the guy that made the very first wish in the movie --- for a coffee. Does he... have to.. vomit it back up? Did he never get it in the first place? He didn't even know he wished for it.
How convenient.
The only way this movie could have been worse, is if I’d paid $15 and drove to the theater.
its never just 15$ all in all more like 40$ if you go alone.
The money you can always get back. The time... well..
and got corona virus in the theater, then die...
I took my kids to see at our local AMC because I want to keep my theater open and fuck giving HBO more of my money. They enjoyed it so money well spent lol
The one upside of 2020. We no longer have GOOD movies to watch so its kind of a win that the theaters are closed
My favorite thing about this movie is how Patty Jenkins, the writer/director, is saying that it’s a masterpiece. The narcissism is unreal!
That's a liberal for you, living in their bubble-like echo chamber. I had thought Patty Jenkins was normal. I never heard anything stupid from her when the first one came out and she seemed concerned only with making a good movie. But now we have the real Patty Jenkins on display with writing credits this time, complete with her self-proclaimed Donald Trump villain. Ugh, i am done with this woman now. I won't see anything else she makes (luckily, I did not see this, and now I won't see it).
This movie was awesome. I liked the part where I turned it off after 45 minutes, after coming to the same conclusion most people had reached.
It’s only because they can’t bear to think that their feminist circlejerk could possibly create a bad movie.
DCEU make another bad superhero movie
I'M sOoO sUrPriSE... 😑
LOL OMG that's ridiculous.
This is a Trainwreck that I wanted to love..but it's SO MEH, you can't even remember why you started watching it in the first place..
WW1 surprised me. Had heart, good characters, a tense high stakes time and setting. Shame they fumbled WW84 so hard
I honestly read that as "World War One surprised me. Had heart, good characters, a tense high stakes time and setting."
@@82dorrin Same lol
@@82dorrin World War 84
@@82dorrin maybe this guys from the distant future. Adds a layer of ominousity to the term "world war 84"
@Onyx1916
Same
DC should make a movie about their archnemesis, Continuity.
You win the internet! 🤣
So a typical DC movie. Can't say I'm surprised.
Proud of you.
This is sort of why I could never get into comic movies...I get so confused because they just don't follow any linear plot. Shit is coming from everywhere and I have no idea what the fuck is going on, or more importantly,..WHY !? lol. The last comic/super hero movies i watched was the first Iron man, and the first two Spiderman movies. That's how annoying it got for me.
Brilliant.
Dianna: “Check out this moving staircase!”
Steve: “Oh, you mean an escalator… a technology invented in the 1880’s and in use when I was alive? Oh goodness... a trash can!”
I know, right? How was he so in awe of a freaking trash can?? Presumably, he'd been walking around in that guy's body for, at least, a few days. He already been out walking the streets trying to find Diana. Are we seriously to believe during all of that he'd never come across a trash can? Man, if that's true than the horse less carriages must've scared the hell out of him. Ha!
I thought the very same thing! Also his amazement of the train coming into the station was ridiculous....
@@donxavier10 i mean to be fair, when he was around trashcans didn't look like that, hell plastic wasn't invented.
@@donxavier10 To be fair, he was not "in awe of a trash can." He was told he was in an art exhibit so he was trying to understand why this trash can was considered art by these future people. Similar to an episode of Columbo where Columbo asks for an explanation of the air vent in a modern art exhibit. He knew what it was, he just wondered if it had some significance in that spot he was not aware of.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 That is not correct. Bakelite, the first completely synthetic plastic, was invented in 1907, patented in 1909 and already used quite a lot in 1914. So even if he had never used, let's say a bakelite telephone, he would surely have heard about synthetic materials and even if _that_ would not have been the case, I highly doubt he would freak out like that about _those._ And how many things made of plastic must he have seen already _before_ that trash can? Why was he not freaking out about, let's say, plastic train seats?
Seriously, they've chosen the most ridiculous reasons for him to freak out possible. A completely electrified city could have been impressive. The amount of car traffic. Computers. Women dressing like what might have looked to him like prostitutes. TV, for heavens sake.
And anyway - how the hell is it possible that he is crossing half the city without seeing even _one_ magic, awe-inducing trash can all the way? And how and why is he still freaking out about a trash can, when is ability to be excited must have been depleted by now by all those other amazing things he must have seen?
The mainstream news in Australia has been singing its praises saying it’s the film we need for 2020, so you instantly know it’s going to be utter shit.
Yeah my wife is fully on board with how amazing ots gonna be without seeing it. About yo call her now to let her know its utter garbage that noone likes
I assume they said this on The Project?
If the MSM likes it, it's garbage.
Shit recognises shit.
literally being gaslit by the media. I can't even deal hahah
I have chronic insomnia and legitimately can almost never sleep without the aid of medications. And I STILL managed to fall asleep during this masterpiece.
Feminist master piece more like my feminist mom love this movie and she made me suffer through this.
Maybe, the movie was made for the treatment purposes.
You might have found a cheaper alternative to your meds.
If You know any of Slavic languages, all movies are free
@@emilfrederiksen.1622 I bet she loves Captain Marvel too.
Bringing Steve back felt to me like just shoving Chris Pine in the movie just cause
Well they had two and a half hours to kill...
@@TheNefastor and a movies career too by the looks of it
They're like "Fuck F9 brought Han back, if they can do that we can bring Steve back as well"
@@adrianalprin5752 LMAO 🤣
@@adrianalprin5752 just remembered Gal Gadot was Han's girlfriend 😁
I thought Kristen Wig could have been defeated using a laser pointer.
She can be defeating by being in a good film.
@@bighands69 Her best role is in The Martian, probably because Ridley Scott told her to shut the f*ck up and stop trying to be funny. She's awful in pretty much everything else.
U win the internet
That would have been brilliant writing but you just heard the Critical Drinker, there was not such thing in this film.
But it s not Cat Movie
“Man wishes he didn’t have cancer” *Takes back wish because strong woman says so*. Makes sense!
@@johnallen3033 ugh the Monkey's Paw analogy they kept hitting us over the head with became tiresome quickly. They kept saying how the wishes were analogous to the MP but left out the one aspect that would've completely sunk their story: the MP wishes could not be renounced.
"Man wishes everything is going to be perfect" the wish works perfectly, no negative outcome is possible. Film ends.
@@wendelinclaus9555 what a fun movie
@@wendelinclaus9555 what if perfection is only possible if mankind goes extinct?
@@Weeups Would that would be a bad thing? Really?
Not to mention the implication behind the poor man who got body snatched by Steve. Probably lost his job and family and his life is utterly ruined. But you go gurl
Not to mention he was totally violated as Diana slept with the Steve body too!!! Idk what Patty Jenkins was thinking there, kinda rapey undertones😭😭
@@Hairy_mcclaireeyfax
Is no one going to mention that just because the jet became invisible doesn’t mean it would disappear off all radars
I already saw two
but if it lets radiation in the visible spectrum pass through, there's no reason it can't also be letting other frequencies pass through. IRL it doesn't work, but magic is magic
Bra ITS the Same Power who hides the amazonian isle. That cant also be detecded.
woman moment
It's magic bro... Talk about nitpicking...
I pirated this movie and I *STILL* want a Refund.
You pirated the joke too...
@@alexmartin3143 and who cares ?
Me too, it’s shite.
The mall scene, in the beginning, was so cringy I almost stopped watching.
Seems legit!!
I love how they posses some random guys body with Trevor's soul, without this guys input at all, constantly put him in danger, and his body and Diana have sex (again with out his input) which is essentially a 4 letter R word, if you reverse the genders and make that a woman who was possessed the movie would get savaged by the SJWs and be shoved into obscurity
Bless you, you're right. You forgot about real life actual laws ( american and especially english) where a woman is not able to be charged with RAPE even though guilty as sin
First, I agree and have made that same argument. Second, what straight man would have said no?
@@michaelmurphy2112 Well I don't want my body to be possessed by someone else ever lol so count me out. Plus is the guy really experiencing the sex or is his consciousness just shoved aside and is basically asleep? I haven't seen the movie and never will so I don't know.
To be fair, there were several articles regarding how this movie had a weird rape concept on this point and the movie quickly fell into obscurity.
@@dangerdan2592 The film doesn't really explain it well, tbh, but what little the audience is given basically implies that the poor guy is suppressed so far down in his own body that he's basically comatose and has no shown reaction to being meat-puppeted by Trevor. I'm honestly still horrified that Diana is so blasé about using his body to get her love interest back that she doesn't even reconsider jumping his bones without any consent and just, you know, not being a horrible person.
Also, she doesn't apologise to the poor guy for having his body hijacked by Trevor, either, so the poor man is essentially left with a chunk of his memory missing once Trevor returns to the afterlife, too. Although, given that happened to his body while he was down and out, that might've been the closest thing to kindness he got here...
I actually couldn't get through this film. Yes, that bad. When she just suddenly decided that she could fly unexpectedly, I said "okay, I'm done." The whole invisible jet thing and grabbing a bullet FROM BEHIND with her magic lasso almost made me quit, but the flying thing was the final straw.
I love how they make a movie set in the 80's and all of the hair, makeup and clothes worn by the leads look like styles from 2020.
Right? Her hair wasn't nearly big enough to be set in 1984.
I cant complain too much about that one. I am an 80s kid, while i loved the decade, i saw enough big hair for a lifetime.🤯
@@Not_Always They didn't even have to go with the Aqua Net flare, just give her a normal bob or the Pat Benatar look that millions of high school girls sported in the early 80s.
Thats how they did the WW tv series. WW2 setting, 70's hairstyles.
fashion gets recycled all the time and nostalgia has been envogue for a while
Crap: Even Zod from Superman did his homework. He transmitted his voice in the correct languages, for the planet to hear.
@@alkebulanawah4242 it happens, when typing fast :)
@@lisamaitland157 oh sorry
Man of steel in retrospection is actually a really good film. Probably the only DC film you can say that about. (wonder wahman 1 was a racist pile of cr@p)
@@TheBelrick Shazam? Also how was the first wonder woman racist? Not sure you know what the word means.
@@anonymousfray2820 Racist means anything the user wants it to mean, that's why you don't argue with them
I do like the addition of the Jack Nicholson laughing scene to the Drinker's cutaway repertoire.
I definitely smell shite.
+1 to that. I was going to comment something similar but without the word "repertoire" because I'm an uncultured swine and tend to forget it exists.
As well as that terrifying Superman mouth, yikes...
Did anyone notice how Diana's childhood story got rewritten? In the first movie, it shows her training hard as an adult but still getting her ass kicked. In 1984, they made her perfect at 10 years old. She would have won the competition against a bunch of grown Amazons, the only thing that stopped her was her being snatched out of the competition for cheating. It made her skills feel unearned, which totally erased what we learned about her in the first movie. What a disgrace.
The whole Amazon Olympics is point less. In the first movie, Diana’s mother WOULDNT allow her to train until she’s a teenager. Yet in WW84, the intro is literally just that training before she’s a teenager.
Go Bears! Beat Green Bay!
I knew it! Thank you! I kinda remember this but not really remember the exact word so I don't really think about it but now!!! Yes, this WW84 is a hotpile plot holes garbage movie
It’s even pointless within the scene itself. Though Diana falls off her horse, the horse keeps going as though she was still on it. Her “shortcut” didn’t give her any advantage, and even made her miss one of the arrow targets.
Cheated? More like she was a 10 year old who didn’t make the right decision and would’ve lost either way.
because they did not even read or watch the last movie thye dont even know how to connect the movie
Thats what i am looking for
I honestly thought the first "action" scene was an actual joke.. i thought she was gonna drink a pepsi after she finished
That would've been kinda funny, and totally 80s
You know I'm starting to like this logic of "Steve flew a biplane so he can fly a modern jet fighter". I can drive my car so I should be perfectly capable to drive a high performance race car.
I’ll send your application to Mercedes on Monday morning. Give Hamilton a little rest.
I swim so I can captain a submarine.
Even that analogy is far off. You could at least figure out how to start it and the steering brakes and gear changes. Hell he wouldn’t even know how to open the canopy to get in. Let alone start it , take off flaps retractable landing gear. Speeds to take off /land other flap controls while flying increases decreased power. All the other avionics.It be like saying I rode a tricycle as a child while living noncontacted tribe (besides the tricycle )in the Amazon hopping on a race motorcycle and coming in 1st place
I digest food so I can perform organic chemistry research.
I can use a phone and computer so I can be an expert coder😀
Aladdin had a pretty interesting take on the wishing for infinite power thing. Jafar wishing to be a genie for the powers and getting his wish but with the added consequence of being confined to a lamp of his own for all eternity. No Aladdin 2 would ever ruin that.
Remember when Gal Gadot ended Covid with her, and her out of touch Hollywood elite’s rendition of “Imagine?” The movie deserves praise for that alone. If I’m not mistaken Wiig showed up in that too. So stunning, so brave.
Such stun, much brave.
@leah rose Such Shades. Many regrets
I remember hearing Mark "Drizzling Shits" Ruffalo's attempts at singing. I'd rather watch _Wonder Woman: 1984_ 100 times than hear him sing even once.
She did turn up in that! What a rendition of the classic though!! More keys than a jailer's ring, as the old saying goes!
seeing diana as a child be able to run and move just as fast as other amazonian women who have been training their whole lives makes it seem like diana is really just someone who got their whole life handed to them. she's already the fastest and strongest without being past the age of 10, talk about working for what you want
She isn’t an Amazon. She’s a baby god, sent to live with them. But ok.
@@jamesbizs Problem is though is now you have godly powers with 0 work needed.
Because that’s what women think they are: goddesses who should be loved and adored unconditionally without having to grind.
There is a reason why matriarchy never worked anywhere.
@@Memoiana yeah its hilarious how all modern feminist movies nowadays who aim to educate the general public fail at that. We live in a society in which most modern self called feminists are the ones who deep down consider women inferior to men by giving them extra leverage.
There's a line she says about having to let Steve go "Why for once can't I have this one thing?" I don't know who wrote that line or who agreed on it but that line perfectly represents the blatant lack of self awareness of this movie. The first WW I thought was decent, but then I learned Gal Gadot isn't such a great actress and wow does it show in this sequel. Those "emotional" scenes made me cringe. Best thing about this movie was Pedro Pascal imo. But the way his character was written... You can make any wish come true and you want more oil? ...what? And that totally forced in Lynda Carter bit was just the final nail in the coffin.
The mere fact she didn't have her sword and shield, because she's a pacifist now or whatever, that was enough to make some of the action scenes a lot less fun.
Hey wait a minute she had them in Justice League, what the fuck?
She learns how to make things invisible BUT FORGETS THEM IN JUSTICE LEAGUE(Snyder's and Whedon's version).
@@flarestriker2005 that’s patty jenkins
That's for sure. I mean would it have been too much for Diana to be a peacekeeper by day and warrior princess by night.
She should have always been a pacifist but yet he's still smashing ppl like trash
For the final act when Max grants everyones wishes around the world, im quite surprised that there was no random doomer in his dingy living room wishing that the world would have ended. Just saying.
Lol, that's probably why all the nukes and stuff went haywire.
Or some emo who wished to die
@@HayilAl-Qadhaafi-ws9ofthat wish would have stayed permanent. It's not like they could change their mind.
I wish that nobody else's wishes would get granted!
CD saying that Max wants the "dildo" stone.
Me wondering if Max is straight or... not.
So his name is Steve, he reawakens/returns after ~70 years and the actor's first name is Chris? Hey, I've seen this one!
Finally I've got what you meant
@@barsozer155 what he meant?
@@magolordo8794 remember captain america?
@@user-qx1id1dt8x ooooooohhhhhh i see
You understood that reference 👍
This whole movie felt like an excuse to bring back Chris Pine.
Meanwhile, the entire first movie seemed like a good justification to leave Chris Pine dead.
Well, even a feminist movie needs a white male lead for box office success.
Any excuse to bring back Chris Pine is acceptable.
@@Matthew10950 haha agrees
who?
I like how she destroyed the cameras AFTER she had already shown herself in costume doing super human things.
Lady brain
Yeah... like what was that about?
As if the footage gets recorded on the actual camera 🤣😂😅
The cameras can't tell their secrets if they are DEAD! Thats how they work, right?
I don't even think video cameras were even that ubiquitous in 1984. I think only in the later 80's did they become a thing. And even then you had the problem of sufficient storage. They were either just re-recorded over the same VHS tape or used time lapse recording.
What shocked me the most to A Clockwork Orange level was the movie showing sexual assault of a man is okay. The juxtaposition of Barbara saying no twice is supposed to be a nod to no means no and me too and times up but Wonder Woman having sex with a guy that her boyfriend is in mental possession of while the actual body owner is coma unconscious is disgusting and revolting. I guess the writers of WW84 thought rape of females is bad, but the rape of males is okay if the female assaulter is not ugly.
From DC's own website about Wonder Woman, "Wonder Woman has stood for nearly eighty years as a symbol of truth, justice, and equality. Diana has made it her duty to lead by example."
To top it off the director Patty Jenkins said, "It's a trope since the 80's, get over it." Patty doesn't understand that sometimes tropes are bad and if you do use a bad trope maybe lampshade the situation, but lampshading is reserved for writers that understand there is a problem to begin with.
It's not rape if she's hot everybody knows that
This movie was painful to watch. Effects, dialog and story were literally Spy Kids level.
At least Spy Kids was done with some love, because Rodriguez wants to entertain kids. This, on the other hand, is just awful girl power pandering
Hey hey, don't bring Spy Kids down to WW 84's level. That franchise has a special place in my heart.
Don't you dare compare spy kids to this.... Thing...
Wrong. The Spy Kids movies are superior.
It was more of a filler episode in a tv series
“Bruce Almighty”
Which was also a better film.
Hey, do you also think that Evan almighty is one of those rare films where the sequel is better than the original?
@@TheBelrick I can barely remember but I remembered I liked it both good movies I miss when movies were fun.
Damb
@@TheBelrick erm. No
Wait I just realized iv been seeing you everywhere...
200 million plus to make a movie with “sci-fi channel” quality...
Hell I loved alot those movies before it was the Syfy channel, at least those were funny bad or campy.
@@discipleofdeath2517 some are actually pretty good, but 90% of them get made with a budget lower than $1 million, to spend 200x times that and end up with a worse movie is a good achievement, must be in top 10 flops.
Exactly, just missing the MST3K robot silhouettes making fun of it.
Like shoot off the top of my head Ghost shark was hilariously bad
@@discipleofdeath2517 agreed
I honestly think that modern film makers believe that if they give the film a long run time it's going to be considered as an "epic."
They should've had Steve Trevor quantum leap into Danny DeVito and try to rekindle his relationship with Wonder Woman.
All he would need is a monster condom to use for his magnum dong.
Danny being in this movie would’ve made it 1000 times better
"Hey Diana, how about we rekindle our relationship by starting an oooourrgy."
-Steve T. Reynolds.
Danny devito should have played every male roll in the movie.
Hahahahaha! Nice
Everyone points out the ridiculousness of Steve being able to fly modern fighter jet when he only flew WWI era bi planes. I wondered how he knew how to drive a modern automobile, when in 1918 the few models available had a top speed of around 30 mph. They also had totally different controls and handling characteristics. he'd be freaking out when he hit 40-50 mph.
Or how they made it to Cairo. That jet has a range of only 300 miles or 600 total. They would've crached in the Atlantic.
Well automobiles unlike planes have gotten easier to operate over time and the layout really hasn't changed much. Unlike jets vs biplanes I wonder were he learned to use the flaps on take off his planes didn't have or need it but that jet does.
@@cactusman1771 but still different in the early bikes like the oned they had during ww1 had gears that need to be operated like those in cars
@@ChiefManny1 which is funny cause they even discussed how the old planes couldn’t go that far. Yet ignore that new planes also can’t go that far when they are the same small size
Well WW1 era planes were a bit faster than 30 mph but still, you're right
Wonder Woman: "I left the world for 100 years"
Director: "Who cares about details"
"I was lying the whole time hahaaa. The lasso of truth has to be recharged somehow right?"
continuity we dont do that here
Details are for losers
@@TimoRutanen Sorry it actually needed a recharge???????
This is also the problem with jumping throughout time as a franchise progresses. They get a new idea or decide to implement an existing one that hasn't been depicted yet (Wonder Woman flying), but they implement in a "new" entry to the franchise set in the past. Multiverse has similar issues where nothing that happens really matters because they can always reset the clock or hop to an alternate reality, but it's much less egregious. Although I still think the Multiverse stuff has its problems but it is undeniable from a cash-grab standpoint.
First time I watched this movie I was ABSOLUTELY WASTED and it didn't really make any sense to me... The 2nd time I watched it sober and it made EVEN LESS SENSE...
Thanks Mr. President
This movie feels like it's made to appeal to people who's only knowledge of 80's nostalgia comes from Stranger Things and The Goldbergs.
I feel the opposite actually. I thought the comfort-food visual/pop cultural nostalgia was surprisingly weak compared to those shows. Instead, they tried to lean into an 80's-relevant theme--taking down "Greed Is Good"--and completely shat the bed.
they failed to even meet that comical standard. this felt like a modern era movie where some people decide to dress and act like its still the 80s. oh yeah, just like modern era.
Now this statement is very well put!
Thats exactly what I thought when I saw the name of the movie.
it's not like they are a lot of popular and funny things from the 80's they could've used. I'm gonna go watch Family Guy.
She went from literally defeating the God of War in an epic battle taking place in the midst of WW1, To giving a shit speech.
The speech wasn’t bad, it’s just the fact there was a speech at all
Kratos
DC did what dc does ruins a movie with a bad sequel and hopes that fans will like to not think about the story
seriously the battle with Ares was lame with "i believe in love" as a punchline. At least WW84 embraced its cheesyness and tried to go for a positive message with a heartfull speech. Not perfect but i definitely saw the first good DCEU movie
This is the biggest problem when you have leftist woman creating the stuff of our childhood.Hollywood won’t stop until we say no more and watch them lose billions.
Gal Gadot singing: Imagine there's no franchise. It isn't hard to do. Put Patty Jenkins as director, and as writer too.
😂
Patty pulled a leroy
From what I heard, Patty Jenkins only directed the 1st movie and someone else wrote it and it was good. Guess her writing game is weak.
@@Kitbats this movie was a dumpster fire in all parts
@@WaffleProductionsInMotion my comment was not in defence of this movie. This movie was a disaster lol
Despite being literally 1984, even Big Brother isn't watching this.
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Somebody fill me in... *WHY* did Steve need a "meat suit" to inhabit anyway? If he was wished back into existence, why couldn't he just re-appear?
In a small corner of the screen it just reads
*Steve joined the game*
But yeah that would've been way better
@@mrgreenboy644 underrated comment. Liked and screenshoted
Because the Wish Stone pre-human host kind of sucked. Compare the three wishes it granted (coffee, superpowers, and back-to-life) with what comes later, with massive walls and nukes and whatnot. Clearly there's a massive power difference between what the stone could accomplish and what Max could accomplish.
@@roguebarbarian9133 Pre-human host it destroyed like five civilisations with no sign at all that age deteriorated the power in any way. It was made by a mischief god. The wishes were weak in the start of the movie because they were made in passing as a joke since they had no idea (“I wish I was like Diana” and “I know what I would wish for”), and even then it’s a hell of a strong wish for the superpowers from a demigod to be ripped out and to bring a guy back to life. Max Lord knows what it is and makes each wish with a lot more straightforward purpose and conviction, so they ramp up faster. I don’t think the human host thing has anything to do with it other than giving a more convenient way to receive and coerce more wishes. Max even uses it to take itself out of him.
Probably one of those Eastern Hippie Astrology correlations so the "Meat Suit" isn't a zombie. BUT. I always wondered. Was that poor hapless Gay Man spending his time in the "Quantum Leap"Nexus?
That poor fellow putting his "Meat-Suit" back on must have felt like the last pair of socks in the dirty laundry bag.
"Diana Violated my Sodomite Ass!'
I'm going to Sue Someone!😝
Oh God. Kirsten Wiig looked like she should've been an extra in that awful nightmare inducing movie adaptation of Cats, not fighting Wonder Woman in the 1980's.
The funniest thing about it all is that, if they were going to be lazy about the Cheetah model, they could have just re-used the one that was already made for Injustice 2.
@Mike Demirdjian It's less uncanny valley, but I'm not gonna say better. Sure as hell doesn't look like a Cheetah.
Woah woah woah! The look wasn’t great but it was nowhere near that bad.
another place she could have fit in well would have been the Batman TV series from the 1960s :D
And that was before she did the cheetah makeover
Also: max is a genie, Diana raped a man that was in the sunken place that was replaced with Steve, and why was Max’s son Filipino? How would turning the jet invisible matter to radar? How could Steve fly a fighter jet but didn’t know what a trash can was?? My head hurts
Ahahah Max's son filipino made me lol.. maybe his wife is asian but yeah, unnecessary mixed race there ahahahah
@V. V just do you'd know, DC and Marvel don't have copyright on superhero powers
@V. V Haha the sexism was just sarcasm and irony haha u look so stupid
How did Steve get directions to fly to Egypt? Also, who was the man who Steve inhabited? Surely he must have known Diana was treating him like someone else 🤔
@V. V But to be fair, while that other guy totally was a moron for falling for the obvious bait, your first comment was certainly a bit cringe...
In my opinion steve posessing some other body is the most baffling thing about this entire movie simply because there's absolutly no reason why they would do it like this. There's no stated limit on the stone's power so why not have it just recreate the actual steve with it's own body? And when diana has to renounce her wish have steve crumble into dust.
Exactly instead they went for this whole possessed rapey fantasy
Because they needed Diana to r##e a man.
W Steve possessing this rando guys body all I thought of after that is a “special episode “ of Quantum Leap 😂 (the OG one. Not the current made garbage)
They should have just thrown Al in there w ziggy and would have been more plausible than this.
After watching Wonder Woman in 2017. I wished for another Wonder Woman run mostly by the same staff.
2021 - I renounce my wish.
Kkkkkkkkk Petty Jankins needs help in the vilans department.
That just it it wasn't the same team, the writing team was completely different and so are most of the producers.
Did you use the dildo stone too while making the wish?😁😁😁
yea unfortunately Patty Jenkins admitted that after the success of the first Wonder Woman, the studio and producers wanted more control & influence in the sequel. She also was not happy about the outcome
i wished for wonder woman getting recast after disaster crap 1984
I was appalled at how lazy the details were in this story...A fully fueled and ready aircraft at a museum that can fly non-stop from Washington DC to Cairo and back (apparently) without refueling, avoiding RADAR by turning jet invisible but the jet still creates atmospheric phenomena, radar that detects ground vehicles and displays them like someone who's never actually seen a radar screen thinks it would, the lasso of truth that apparently is as long as it needs to be for something to happen (swinging on buildings and lightning, WTAF?! Spiderman), or WW now flying. It was a hot mess that my daughter laughed at in a way as to say WTAF herself. Also, I never got the Trump vibe from the antagonist, but was pissed about how every man was a buffoon, bumbling idiot, or complete misogynist. Projecting much, Patty?
Museums drain all the fluids out of their exhibit vehicles for safety and to prevent dripping. Wonder Woman turned into Spider Man, Superman and Indiana Jones in this movie and never once asked someone to tell the truth with her lasso. Except maybe at the end where her lasso crawled like a snake around bad guy's ankle. But supposedly he took back his wish on his own. The movie was terrible.
Also, a guy from WW1 who thinks he can fly a fighter jet only because he used to fly Sopwith Camels.
Never got a trump vibe? Dude literally erected a massive wall XD
@@GigglingStoners you think Trump built that wall himself? Most was already there. You think Trump is build the only wall ever? China would like to tell you about their Great Wall.......eff outta here.
@@brsubwayfc Yeah, no... no idea what you're trying to say. Try being more coherent next time.
They want this movie to have Marvel “feel” but it comes off cringy. They should stick with the detective theme, maybe they’ll be more successful that way.
Someone said it should tie with the Cold War theme that plagued the 80's and I agree. Imagine if they put Reagan, Tatcher and Gorbachov in this shit instead of the bs romance. They didn't leatn anything from Ultron, where the romance was the last liked plot (I actually like it after the whole saga was completed).
@@Willowy13 I wish the MCU treated Ultron as an actual film rather than a stepping stone to introduce more characters and plotlines
The first movie may have a few problems, but it was fun and managed to do what Captain Marvel tried so hard and failed. I still can't believe how bad this movie is.
I'd love to just see DC pull a 180 and just make gritty neo-noir detective thrillers
@Greg Elchert he didn't tho, he actually reduced the Nazi partie's popularity when he ran for chancellor and became increasely opposed to Hitler. by the time hitler came to power he not only had retired but he was speaking out against hitler publically.
not defending the gie, he was considered too radical by the Nazis. but he wasn't apart of the holocaust and if anything delayed it by his unpopularity. (ofcaurse if he did have anypower when the holocaust happened he would have liked it)
It drives me absolutely insane that the climax of the movie involves relying on LITERALLY EVERY HUMAN ON EARTH RENOUNCING THEIR WISHES. I'd be willing to bet not even 5% of those who made wishes would be willing to renounce them; humans are inherently selfish, and would undoubtedly be loathe to give up their deepest wishes come true even to save the world, especially since they generally would be doing so for no apparent gain. I, standing in my living room with my wish granted, would likely notice no difference in the world if I gave up my wish, so why the hell would I? I tend to think of myself as a generally good person, and having my wish taken from me seems like a "Nothing to gain, everything to lose" scenario.
There was literally no reason for this movie to take place in 1984.
Rio from Duran Duran and Max looking like Simon Le Bon
Exactly. I have yet to figure out what was the point of having it in 1984 other that allowing Patty to make a simpler movie. Which is what she made, a simple movie.
Probably a significant number or date to the creator or special issue of wonder woman in the original comics I assume. Cauze why specific on 1984. Why not early 90's? The logic of any superhero movie is there's always an infinite time line so logic is never there 😂
I think there actually was a WW1984 story arc where it ww1984 ment World War 1984. But you'd never know from this God awful attempt at story telling
because if this movie happen in current time it will cause more confusion where all justice league member when there is JL level threat
This movie was so bad that my girlfriend made the moves on me, before I had the chance to make my moves on her. I highly recommend it.
LOL
Maybe I should give it a try......
You’re lucky. She could’ve just changed the channel!
Nice one
Underrated comment
I like how Kristin Wiig "loses her humanity" as a side effect of the stone... And not just the natural process of what happens when the ignored girl becomes a smokeshow and starts getting all the attention.
That and I like the not-overused-at-all trope of making her look nerdy by giving her glasses.
@@blackenedwritings
Haha, right? I recall watching the Yesterday movie about the Beatles and the nerdy-ish woman kept looking familiar, until halfway into the movie, it dawned on me that she was Cinderella. No glasses at all.
@@blackenedwritings meanwhile, young attractive women can't be renowned doctors.
not criticizing or anything, I'm just curious about these tropes and how default appearances are taken as granted. I'm actually starting to rethink about my prejudices - or at least I'm trying to see them from a distance. (About time.)
Never have I seen something this true😂
Lol you literally have a neck beard.
"This movie is long; and by God do you feel every minute of it" 😂😂 is officially my new favorite line.
dont forget. A fighter Jet that doesn`t need refueling across the Atlantic!
Yeah, that occurred to me, too.
Yeah...I couldn't remember them saying the jet had some newfangled secret design with miniaturised nuclear propulsion a'la Hunt For Red October submarines (similar era) lol. Not to mention it was supposedly in a museum...cringe
yeah. and it disappears too. no need to be so literal
Oh don't worry its secret soviet technology it doesn't need fuel.
Yeah it was an F4 Phantom which didn’t make sense because modern day mid flight refueling didn’t exist then
I love how she took the "short cut" slide as a kid in the competition, yet her horse, who went the long way, ended up at the bottom to catch her at the same time. Feels like she could have just stayed on the horse, but hey that's just me.
I don't think you understand how short cuts work
Hahahaha ...
I'm high
this just blew my mind, I never put that together but it is so true. Wow, whoever wrote this garbage of a film should be in a different line of work
@@michaelbeasley8716 i agreed and coincidentally i'm high Rn haha
I was thinking well the weight of Diana would have slowed down the horse, but she was a little girl so the weight is pretty much negligible.
I was shocked by how this was. It’s embarrassing how they act like the world didn’t look into what nearly cause Armageddon and then just magically disappeared
movie just made no sense.
It is a good insight into how Hollywood views the world.
how was someone paid to write this horseshit?!!! tell me! my 9 year old niece would write a less plotholes-ridden scenario... .
It's not our world. This is a world with Gotham, Metropolis, etc.
Idk, apparently the world is a complete shitshow filled with awful, awful people that is completely irredeemable.
Someone should tell her that destroying a CCTV camera won't erase the footage it has already recorded!
I'm glad you pointed out how stupid the Presidents wish was. He was clearly based off of Reagan and Reagan would of wished for Strategic Missile Defense not more nukes.
STAR WARS
S T R A T E G I C
D E F E N S E
I N I T I A T I V E
Which is legit one of the closest things we ever got to sci fi superweapons IRL, albeit in a purely defensive role
@@tlshortyshorty5810 Reagan had class and charisma and movie star good looks.
Can't have that!
Right, right.....
Let's find a mediocre actor who looks and acts nothing like President Reagan.
Yeah, we've got a mediocre actor who looks like a young Trump in the villain role. That's all we need to pander to feminists and the woke mob.
@@CommanderJamesT.Butler2022 to be fair Pedro Pascal is a great actor; however like most of hollywood he's a shit person
To give him his due I think Reagan would have wanted no nukes remember he signed salt and start with Gorbachev
Wonder Woman: "Take back your wishes"
The World: "oh, ok"
For sure... Is how people work... Imagine if they didn't give the wishes back and then she becomes distrustful of the humanity again...
Actual humanity: "We wish you stopped complaining, Wonder Woman"
What about the people who made wishes, then were killed by other wishes.... how did they hear the message to take it back?
@@flaviomonteiro1414 Imagine living the worst live you can. Boom wish helps you undo this and this random person tells you to take it back and go live that live again. Sorry but no i dont think every person will take back their wishes thats just wishfull thinking.
@@mbos14 yeah, i would want better, struggling with dissability my whole life trying to get assistance for it. not able to have much for myself cause lack of security
Actually, Diana NEVER spoke her wish out loud. She said "I know what I'd wish for" and that was it, the dildo stone just like, read her mind? And yet when Max becomes the didlo stone he requires every wish to be spoken to him. That plothole needs some traffic cones around it or maybe the story loses a tire or two, naah it'll be fine!
Turns out Midnight's Edge and Critical Drinker called it, no wonder those test screenings went bad!
This comment is gold, lol! You made me laugh! I hadn't seen this flaw, there were so many in this film that I didn't catch this one, lol
@@lolamalu So glad you liked that! Cheers!
The dildo stone knows all
I like how we stick with the name "Dildo Stone"
"The decomposing cherry on top of the shit covered chocolate cake that is 2020" Well said, Sir, well said.
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When a story becomes unaware of its own continuity, it has already failed.
In reality, I think they were trying to retcon parts of Justice League.
@@hunnerdayEDT reaaaaally unsuccessfull at that, especially with WW learning how to effing fly in the end
@@KindestofWinds yeah, I was falling asleep when that happened and I perked up and said: "when did she f-king learn how to fly?!" My husband just shrugged.
This movie was so bad that before the hour mark I walked out on it. Only to realize that I was at home and all I had to do was to turn off the TV.
Lol!
neighbour looking awkard to you
I fell asleep 3 times and had to watch it in 2 parts
Your lover died and you live the next 40 years doing nothing to enrich your personal life. That is the number one thing wrong with this film. Why not have a new lover and have something happen to him which requires you to risk your life to save him. You are Wonder Woman, living in a shell makes you a very unappealing character in the movies and in real life.
@@carlgould3097 yeah they lost focus for this movie.
She convinced the entire world to give back their wishes??? Jesus christ, did she sing another "viral video" to the world? Bc that was real believable irl.
Dude she achieved saving people in the movie by just singing imagine, I think she should stop method acting cuz Im thinking it made her believe she could have people give up living their lives by singing imagine
re: "Jesus christ(Christ), did she sing another ....." 1. Nahhhh ... Jesus Christ does not read comments on TH-cam. 2. Anyone else you care to write to? 3. Ehhh?
not really, she convinced the first person to make the wish that made him the wish granter recent his wish..which means all the other wishes became nul and void.
@@NickPCage then what was the point of everyone saying they renounced their wish after he already said that? It's obvious the screenwriters didn't intend for it all to end because max renounced his wish
@@rainbowremo1 chettah never renounced her wish and yet she was human again.
"Lets put him in goofy clothes cuz it makes my brain do a funny."
I swear this is the best movie critic channel I've ever seen.
This storyline seems more like a kid movie, back when people thought only kids liked superheroes
Which is fine.. then make a superhero family movie with the same moral and make it good and everyone is happy
Super hero movies have and always will be for kids
@@bacht4799 no lol
@@sirpizo555 that is also completely false
@@sirpizo555 I don't know about that... I think it comes down to the theme of the movie in question tackles.
But hey to each their own I guess.
A film that tells the message "you have to work for everything in life"... While not bothering to do the narrative work needed to get the point across in a way that "shows" rather than "tells" the audience.
Funny that the movie IS MADE FOR feminists and SJW's that don't work for what they want, just complain until something happens.
@@Rx37Legacy How do you figure that? From where I'm standing the film doesn't send a feminist message at all: Wonder Woman's entire character arc and internal conflict revolve around loving a man, and there are very few moments in the movie where she's at all proactive.
I'ma have to get real drunk for this one I think....
Well, this whole thing of wishing stuff and magically getting them, but with other consequences, kinda proves this "you have to work for everything" point. Not defending the movie or anything, just saying that it did try...
Really? The message I got was that women can’t have a man and their power. Also that sleeping with a unwilling participant is super cool as long as your Gal Gadot.
When the writer of Hudson Hawk, Demolition Man, and Batman Returns says your movie has tone problems, perhaps you should listen.
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@@alan7life What?
Bruh don't talk shit about Demolition Man.
@@Raidwall I don't think they were.
Demolition Man
All I remember about this movie was the horrid special effects. When Diana rescued the two kids towards the end and they all went tumbling, it was so obviously 2 small mannequins. How the he'll did that make it into the final cut?
"Steve's consciousness has somehow downloaded into another man's body."
Is this Cyberpunk 2077?
Except Cyberpunk 2077 works, kinda...
@@mattthompson3714 I liked the premise for Cyberpunk.
@@GregFurey98 I think everyone did...
But what we got is a different story!
It like season 6 of 100 serial
@@mattthompson3714 The premise is still intact. The game, aside from bugs and a lack of customization and AI, can be described as an "unpolished gem", through and through.
"Remember the invisible jet? That part of wonder woman that was universally made fun of because it was stupid that a flying goddess would drive it. Lets put it in the movie."
“Not only that, let’s make it integral to the plot, and give no explanation, so that not only will it be ridiculous, it’ll be a ridiculous deus ex machina”
It's on the same level as the Thanos helicopter
They had to have the invisible jet so Steve could do something.😂😂😂
@@Willowy13 Sad but true.
It doesn't even make sense. She makes it invisible because of "radar". Radar doesn't pick up on whether something is visible or not
The sad thing is I could throw a stick in the air and it would land on twelve unknown screenwriters who could come up with a better story before coffee.
Best comment 😂😂
“Unspecified virus of unknown origins”. 😂😂😂
Wonder Woman 1984, condoning rape as long as the unconsenting doesn't know it has happened.
That's the only time it's acceptable
And/or is a man
She in a sense legitimately roofied him for the entire possession….
Every other movie is just 80s and 90s nostalgia.
That doesn't even have the 80s and 90s aesthetic
I would accept that. But if it isn’t preaching a so called progressive message in the guise of a nostalgia fest, then it’s just a poor plodding paced film.
Its almost as if back when we thought we were awesome our entertainment felt awesome.
Welcome to the future, when Chicom propaganda on netflix are better movies than ours
They should make a nostalgia movie for the 1880s, that would be good
Can’t blame Zack Snyder on this one lol
Its patty Jenkins. No one is blaming her because she's a wahmen
@@ki11aqueen5 Why? Because people like her have decoys
I add to that. Zack Synder wrote the first movie. And now this movie has new writers and Patty Jenkins. Yes. Her as writer and Director = Fail. Should had keep Zack as writer.
Geoff Johns had his mucky paw prints all over the story for WW84. Zack Snyder co-wrote the first WW.
#releasethesnydercutofwonderwoman1984
I agree it would've been interesting to see Diana deal with the increasing loss of her powers and the reprocussions, stress, and fear it should cause as she loses the abilities she always had so easily. And it would be fun to see the tension and then teamwork as she realizes she needs to rely on Steve more heavily to help her in fights and come up with clever strategy over strength to get around her new weakness.
Also we need to see the evidence of the life of the guy Steve took over creeping in on them as his work, friends and family call him and the guilt over stealing his life. In the end wouldn't it be both of them sacrificing the selfish choice with not just Diana but also Steve not willing to steal someones life? They could then at least acknowledge life is precious even if people are flawed. Making just about her broken heart and Steve wanting her to have powers back is disappointing. In Justice League Diana, is portrayed as people weren't worth saving anymore and she only fights if the threat is world devastation. Rather unheroic attitude for a hero movie
You know I wonder how the writers miss basic stoey arcs. Dont they read books or watch influential movies? Wait nevermind, DC movies are written by committee.
A two hundred million dollar re-telling of "The Monkey's Paw".
What's worse, the main character acknowledges the movie's story is the same as "The Monkey's Paw" in a scene IN THE MOVIE
People got paid millions for that garbage 🗑
Which The Simpsons did much, much better for far less money with their Treehouse of Horror version.
@@nathantimmel that’s kinda sad
@@spittinvenom9671 I won't mind to keep producing garbage if get paid millions everytime. Thanks to the mindless consumerism.
Female writer/Director:: "Men just can't deal with a strong female lead"...Really, are we going to use the 'misogynistic fanboy' excuse again!?
Yes. Yes they are. Now and forever.
It will be used until the heat death of the universe, maybe even beyond. It's the similar excuse for when female chess players can't compete with male ones. "It's the patriarchy's fault! It makes every single one of the female players BELIEVE they can't so they don't! But they totally could!"
Yes. Yes, we will 🤮.
Plenty of male directors and comic book creators trot out the same line over and over again. Have so for decades. It's the go-to cliche insult when they get called out on screwing up and/or making their female character of choice an unlikable bitch instead of a relatable human being.
Yep, that's why Julia Roberts, Angelina Jolie, Jennifer Anniston and Jennifer Lawrence had such terrible careers and nobody's ever heard of them.
WHY DID NO ONE CARE ABOUT THE HOST PERSON WHOSE BODY STEVE STOLE????
Steve didn't steal the body. Diana did and shoved Steve's consciousness into it.
@@jwilson6650 That's not the point. The poor (missing) soul lost the use of his own body. What if Steve had gotten killed while fighting with Diana? An innocent man would have been dead. No one even mentioned his name in the story or seemed to care one whit about him - huge moral oversight.
@@KenOtwell Sure. You attributed the foul act to Steve, though. He used the body, but he himself didn't steal it. By saying he did you are letting Diana (and the writers, let's be honest) off the hook.
@@jwilson6650 Oh come on, that's a stretch. You think Chris Pine wrote his own lines and not the writers? Of course ultimately the writers wrote the story and all the lines, but IN the story, Steve 'came to possess" someone's body and by not even remotely considering the other person over the days he had possession, I would call that willfull theft. if you found a million dollars in a wallet with a drivers license and didn't return it, at some point that becomes theft. But yes - you are right that Diana was just as guilty.
@@KenOtwell Jeez, you just described it wrong, is all.
But if you want to get into it, let's say Steve (the character) stole the body. Shouldn't he also have the power to give it back?
So how would he go about doing that, in the confines of the movie?