It's refreshing to hear someone who knows what he's talking about. Some others are like "look how far back it reclines! It's got a pillow too! This chair is sick!"
Thank you for this video, Steve. I recently got into an auto accident (hit and run), and I’m a gamer. I’m also a graduate student, so as you can imagine, I spend a lot of time at the computer. I’m realizing that I need to work on prioritizing ergonomics and good posture. Thanks for your help with these videos!
The thing about the cost of a chair is, you're not just paying for a chair--you are paying for the doctors and chiropractors and potentially for the surgeries over the next 10, 20, 30 years or more. Or not. :) So, if you're doing a number on your body (and as you get older, the "numbers" become more and more apparent), saving $50, $100, or even $500 dollars isn't worth it. That is, you're not really saving any money. Sometimes the best way to save money is to spend money. Of course, you also have to take into account the amount of money you are spending to replace those cheaper chairs over time. I've had a herman miller chair for over twelve years and it's essentially the same today as it was when we bought it new. We paid a lot for that chair, but have watched others in the family go through a half-dozen or more lesser chairs in that time, and theirs were never as comfortable or flexible as mine. All that said, I was fortunate to have that kind of money available at the time and I'd be hard pressed to make that investment right now, and I know that's where many people are, so fair enough. But the truth remains. :)
sth. to mention is, that a lot of people will game at to high tables. u mentioned to have the chair high enough that your arms are comfortable and not reaching up, which i absolutely agree with, but for many this will result in their feet not reaching the floor, creating other issues. a foot rest can solve this too and cheaper, but if someone has to get a new table anyways for example it's sth. to look into and get an adjustable table a non electric one, that isn't that expensive and get a chair that fits it and you perfectly.
The PT78 does come optioned with arm rests. I found one at a furniture liquidators for $99 but they are priced 300-400 new. It is a great chair, much better than any other 'gaming' chair you can find with all the adjustments it can do and the pillow support that is comfy but will last.
As a small guy I think the OM5 small edition would suit me well, But i can't spend 550+ dollars (+ shipping to Sweden) on the chair. The reason why many people decide to buy these "Racing" chairs is because they are a lot cheaper.
Hi Steve, your video is very interesting and helpful, as I am looking for a new chair for work/gaming. Your chair itself looks very good, with a lot of parameters to achieve perfect fit, but is there an equivalent modele with arm support you could recommend ? Thanks !
Hello, Do you still recommend the Office Master PT78 as a good ergonomic chair? I am 1.82m tall. And I have lumbar and cervical spine pain. What is the best store to buy it?
Which chair would you recommend for tall guys? Over 6'5"~. Because 99% of chairs (the one your sitting in) end at our lower backs. Plus most sites don't provide backrest dimensions.
Hey, great video, I was looking around quite a bit for a good "gaming" chair and was just about to buy one of those car seat chairs until I saw this video. I'm looking for a little help shopping for a chair, I'm 5'7" at 180 pounds, and I was wondering what would be a good fit for me (also >$200 if possible), thanks for any recommendations!
What do you do when your desk is like 8 inches thick due to having a center drawer? Last I looked/measured, the distance from my elbows to my thighs with my legs and knees at 90 degrees and my back straight was like 2-3 inches, tops.... Also I'm 6'0/6'1 and 280. My goal is 170 to 230 pounds, and supposedly, when you lose 100+ pounds you gain an inch in height, soooo... Anyway, I need a chair that has all the necessary adjustments/locks, and I can sit in for hours on end without getting hot {so probably a mesh chair} or fatigued, etc. And it needs to be high enough for a standing desk. Of which the surface height would be 44 inches, so the butt of the seat should probably come to 32 inches or so. Anything like that at a reasonable price??
hi Steve, im just starting to look for gaming chair so your video just gave me some very important information so i dont buy a product that i will hate. However Im affraid it will be quite hard to look for a racing car chair that have all of these features and is comfortable so im just wondering if you already have some brands or models to suggest just to give me somewhere to start looking.
Would you say the offerings from DXRacer is not good from an ergonomics view? I use a 3M keyboard tray, and currently not happy with my chair, I primarily work which is heavy on typing, but also play games from time to time. The current chair I have is good for adjustability, but the seat is too shallow and feels like I'm sitting on the plate underneath the cushion, so I want a chair with a softer and better seat cushion. A reclining feature is also appreciated. I was considering to get a DX Racer, as they have different options with and without side supports and such, but now after this video I'm rethinking that..... :) The biggest problem I have with finding chairs is availability, none of the high end good chairs are readily available where I am in the Philippines, and I'm forced to order online without being able to try the chairs first.
Thanks for the comment. The DX racer is an OK chair if it fits but if it doesn't you're stuck. Look for chairs that have 3 paddles underneath so you can adjust all the parts to fit you. Check at office supply stores or stores that sell office products they may have office chair you can sit in before you purchase. If you find one send me a link and i'll let you know what I think.
I have tailbone issues from sitting on my pc on a crap chair for too many years and an injury from my childhood. I am looking for a soft chair, similar to this one in the video. I am in the UK though and would like to order online. Any suggestions?
thank you for the information, shed a lot of light as I've been looking around for a new chair, currently sitting on a folding tent chair with a gamer rocker chair on top of it for height, im 6'3" and right around 300lbs (genetically built like a tree) is there anything you could recommend?
Check out ErgoDirect www.ergodirect.com/485-office-master-pt78-tall-back-multi-function-ergonomic-chair.html Let them know I referred you. Once you got it let me know and I'll help you set it up
Hi Steve really cool video! I have a question! I am a web developer searching for a desk chair for at home. Could you give me some options (Even though I live in The Netherlands)
There area a lot of variables to consider but you should check out an office master chair. i find them pretty functional. Not sure if they have them where you are though.
Steve, would you recommend PT78 as a chair for work, or for home (relaxed webt surfing, etc)? Do you recommend any improvement for the standard cushion?
I actually changed my order last second to a PA59 Patriot in an attempt to be a little more frugal. Also, I sent them an email stating you referred me. I'll try to get in touch when it arrives, that would be cool to have my chair setup by the man, the myth, the legend... the ergonomics guy haha.
Thank you. Quite honestly, I'm not a fan of mesh either. LOL. It's really tough finding a good and affordable office/watching TH-cam chair. Very happy to find your channel.
Just wanted to ask are their any actual gaming chairs you recommend. I am from Australia so the PT78 isnt an option. If you cant recommend a gaming chair is there one you can recommend in Australia?
Sorry I don't know what vendors sell in Australia. Here is a review of how to choose a chair th-cam.com/video/4ij_TNRWv_0/w-d-xo.html Let me know what brands are available and I can help you choose. Where are you in Australia?
Fuck your chair kills mine in every single way possible my heap of shit is fixed bro it’s fucked it makes my legs numb after long sessions I need a new chair and my lower back hurts
Kinsal makes a chair a lot like the dxracers and It's honestly phenomenal. If you are like me and spend tons of time at the computer, you are probably going to be spending 180-300 bucks for something that will actually be comfortable in long sessions. I would recommend an "executive" or high end office chair with lumbar and a neck pad or a kinsal, dxracer, maxnomic ect. Anything else and you will just be wishing that you spent the money. Just to be straight up with you, inside of 300 dollars, you cant go wrong with the racing style chairs. You will fall asleep in them and feel rested every time you use them. The 2 chairs in this video are complete trash for gaming imo. The pillows don't slide around either on the racing style chairs. They stay right in place and feel amazing. I don't understand this video.
Those racing style gaming chairs are not great for ergonomics and proper posture and healthy sitting. Like he mentioned in the video they keep your hips tilted back but you want the opposite for sitting a desk for long periods of time. Those racing chairs also have no adjustable back support or seatpan adjustment so if they fit you perfectly then you are lucky, but if you want to make any adjustments you cannot and are stuck with an uncomfortable and unhealthy chair. The racing chairs have decent padding but so do most other ergonomic chairs that you can customize to fit your body and adjust so you are sitting in a healthy posture. The PT78 chair in this video is one of the best you can get for the price with all the adjustments you can make to it. If you follow his guides and other guides on proper posture in setting up a chair I can guarantee that you will notice a difference in how long you are able to sit at the computer and how your back and legs feel after long sessions. I used to have a racing style chair but after being unable to sit for long sessions I moved to the Herman Miller Embody and immediately noticed a difference. The PT78 is a great option for a 1/3 of the price and I have personally tried it out. It has more cushion than the Embody which has more of a hammock support system but still feels like it will hold up for decades. The PT78 for the same price as a racing style chair has all the adjustments you need to customize the chair to your body and sit with proper posture.
Also if you are worried about the pillows sliding around all the positions you can move lock into place once you want them to and are done adjusting them. All those handles loosen the position and then tighten them once you have them in a place suited to your body.
Those chairs make you slouch. You're not sitting upright. You're disengaging your core and just throwing your hips out front leaning back on your chair which is a death wish. In this posture your neck is literally sitting on your chest and you prop up your neck to look at the monitor and not your back which is going to give you forward head position (FHP) or computer neck syndrome. That is, if you are even self aware enough to appreciate the ethos behind ergonomics.
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Finally someone that knows what he is saying. Thank you for your very usefull info about ergonomics!
It's refreshing to hear someone who knows what he's talking about. Some others are like "look how far back it reclines! It's got a pillow too! This chair is sick!"
Thank you for this video, Steve. I recently got into an auto accident (hit and run), and I’m a gamer. I’m also a graduate student, so as you can imagine, I spend a lot of time at the computer. I’m realizing that I need to work on prioritizing ergonomics and good posture. Thanks for your help with these videos!
I'd be happy to help you out send me an e-mail at sitesolutions@hotmail.com
The thing about the cost of a chair is, you're not just paying for a chair--you are paying for the doctors and chiropractors and potentially for the surgeries over the next 10, 20, 30 years or more. Or not. :) So, if you're doing a number on your body (and as you get older, the "numbers" become more and more apparent), saving $50, $100, or even $500 dollars isn't worth it. That is, you're not really saving any money. Sometimes the best way to save money is to spend money.
Of course, you also have to take into account the amount of money you are spending to replace those cheaper chairs over time. I've had a herman miller chair for over twelve years and it's essentially the same today as it was when we bought it new. We paid a lot for that chair, but have watched others in the family go through a half-dozen or more lesser chairs in that time, and theirs were never as comfortable or flexible as mine.
All that said, I was fortunate to have that kind of money available at the time and I'd be hard pressed to make that investment right now, and I know that's where many people are, so fair enough. But the truth remains. :)
For somebody that doesn't seem like a gamer you know your shit about gamer need's. Good Vid
sth. to mention is, that a lot of people will game at to high tables.
u mentioned to have the chair high enough that your arms are comfortable and not reaching up, which i absolutely agree with, but for many this will result in their feet not reaching the floor, creating other issues.
a foot rest can solve this too and cheaper, but if someone has to get a new table anyways for example it's sth. to look into and get an adjustable table a non electric one, that isn't that expensive and get a chair that fits it and you perfectly.
I want that exact chair but with armrests
The PT78 does come optioned with arm rests. I found one at a furniture liquidators for $99 but they are priced 300-400 new. It is a great chair, much better than any other 'gaming' chair you can find with all the adjustments it can do and the pillow support that is comfy but will last.
yes where is this chair tell us plz
Stay Dreamin Model number is PT78 you can find it lots of places
Same. And with a headrest
that chair looks cheap as hell.
Thank you so much! Your advises are really helpful.
ive been looking for a good chair to buy, thanks for the help man.
As a small guy I think the OM5 small edition would suit me well, But i can't spend 550+ dollars (+ shipping to Sweden) on the chair. The reason why many people decide to buy these "Racing" chairs is because they are a lot cheaper.
So in conclusion, maximum customisation is best :v
excellent video!
Hi Steve, your video is very interesting and helpful, as I am looking for a new chair for work/gaming.
Your chair itself looks very good, with a lot of parameters to achieve perfect fit, but is there an equivalent modele with arm support you could recommend ?
Thanks !
Oops, sorry, I just find out that arms are in option with the chair =)
If you need help setting up the chair I am happy to set up a skype call.
Hi Steve, as a short guy 5'5", which chair would you recommended ? If you answer me i will be glad. My budget is only 200 $
Hello,
Do you still recommend the Office Master PT78 as a good ergonomic chair?
I am 1.82m tall. And I have lumbar and cervical spine pain.
What is the best store to buy it?
The SecretLab Titan has all of those requirements that he is talking about
No, that chair does not have a seat slider. You also cannot adjust the position of the backrest up and down (independently of the seat).
That seat seems robust! O.o
Great info thank you.
So helpful sir
Which chair would you recommend for tall guys? Over 6'5"~. Because 99% of chairs (the one your sitting in) end at our lower backs. Plus most sites don't provide backrest dimensions.
Maybe the Office Master PT79
SecretLab Titan
Hey, great video, I was looking around quite a bit for a good "gaming" chair and was just about to buy one of those car seat chairs until I saw this video. I'm looking for a little help shopping for a chair, I'm 5'7" at 180 pounds, and I was wondering what would be a good fit for me (also >$200 if possible), thanks for any recommendations!
What do you do when your desk is like 8 inches thick due to having a center drawer? Last I looked/measured, the distance from my elbows to my thighs with my legs and knees at 90 degrees and my back straight was like 2-3 inches, tops....
Also I'm 6'0/6'1 and 280. My goal is 170 to 230 pounds, and supposedly, when you lose 100+ pounds you gain an inch in height, soooo... Anyway, I need a chair that has all the necessary adjustments/locks, and I can sit in for hours on end without getting hot {so probably a mesh chair} or fatigued, etc. And it needs to be high enough for a standing desk. Of which the surface height would be 44 inches, so the butt of the seat should probably come to 32 inches or so.
Anything like that at a reasonable price??
hi Steve, im just starting to look for gaming chair so your video just gave me some very important information so i dont buy a product that i will hate. However Im affraid it will be quite hard to look for a racing car chair that have all of these features and is comfortable so im just wondering if you already have some brands or models to suggest just to give me somewhere to start looking.
Do you know anything about the new cushion options for Office Master chairs? there is a memory foam, cyxxl (sp?) cutout and a DCS option
Solid Point Sir ..
Would you say the offerings from DXRacer is not good from an ergonomics view? I use a 3M keyboard tray, and currently not happy with my chair, I primarily work which is heavy on typing, but also play games from time to time. The current chair I have is good for adjustability, but the seat is too shallow and feels like I'm sitting on the plate underneath the cushion, so I want a chair with a softer and better seat cushion. A reclining feature is also appreciated. I was considering to get a DX Racer, as they have different options with and without side supports and such, but now after this video I'm rethinking that..... :) The biggest problem I have with finding chairs is availability, none of the high end good chairs are readily available where I am in the Philippines, and I'm forced to order online without being able to try the chairs first.
Thanks for the comment. The DX racer is an OK chair if it fits but if it doesn't you're stuck. Look for chairs that have 3 paddles underneath so you can adjust all the parts to fit you. Check at office supply stores or stores that sell office products they may have office chair you can sit in before you purchase. If you find one send me a link and i'll let you know what I think.
I have tailbone issues from sitting on my pc on a crap chair for too many years and an injury from my childhood. I am looking for a soft chair, similar to this one in the video. I am in the UK though and would like to order online. Any suggestions?
I have been sitting on a fold up chair for a very long time. I need a chair. Looking for a cheap one.
What's your opinion on the Steelcase Gesture?
thank you for the information, shed a lot of light as I've been looking around for a new chair, currently sitting on a folding tent chair with a gamer rocker chair on top of it for height, im 6'3" and right around 300lbs (genetically built like a tree) is there anything you could recommend?
Check out the Neutral Posture big and tall chair or an Office Master PTYM. Both are bigger chairs that are fully adjustable.
thanks for the reply sir ill check it out
Hi Steve, i'm having a hard time trying to find out where I can buy the Office Master PT78?
Check out ErgoDirect www.ergodirect.com/485-office-master-pt78-tall-back-multi-function-ergonomic-chair.html Let them know I referred you. Once you got it let me know and I'll help you set it up
Alright, Thanks Steve!
Hi Steve really cool video! I have a question! I am a web developer searching for a desk chair for at home. Could you give me some options (Even though I live in The Netherlands)
There area a lot of variables to consider but you should check out an office master chair. i find them pretty functional. Not sure if they have them where you are though.
Steve, would you recommend PT78 as a chair for work, or for home (relaxed webt surfing, etc)? Do you recommend any improvement for the standard cushion?
PT78 Is a much more flexible chair.
What about the allsteel acuity.
I too want that exact chair but with armrests
Contact ErgoDirect and ask for a PT78 www.ergodirect.com/ Tell them I referred you!
Hi Steve, what is your opinion on the DX Racer 1?
you the man, I just ordered myself a pt78 from ergodirect, im very excited for it.
Great! Let me know when you get it and I'll help you set it up via skype. Could you elt ergodirect know that I refereed you? Thanks.
Steve
I actually changed my order last second to a PA59 Patriot in an attempt to be a little more frugal. Also, I sent them an email stating you referred me. I'll try to get in touch when it arrives, that would be cool to have my chair setup by the man, the myth, the legend... the ergonomics guy haha.
thanks sir
what do you think of the Ergohuman chair? It looks weird, but it's supposed to be the perfect office chair.
Hero,
Im not a big fan of mesh chairs. They tend to be too soft. I m not sure the ErgoHuman has all the adjustments you want.
Thank you. Quite honestly, I'm not a fan of mesh either. LOL. It's really tough finding a good and affordable office/watching TH-cam chair. Very happy to find your channel.
A gaming racer chair was the worst thing I have ever bought and the biggest waste of money
Just wanted to ask are their any actual gaming chairs you recommend. I am from Australia so the PT78 isnt an option. If you cant recommend a gaming chair is there one you can recommend in Australia?
Sorry I don't know what vendors sell in Australia. Here is a review of how to choose a chair th-cam.com/video/4ij_TNRWv_0/w-d-xo.html
Let me know what brands are available and I can help you choose.
Where are you in Australia?
Steve Meagher Tasmania the island at the bottom.
I did the Cradle Mountain hike. ending in Hobart!
Man that is one expensive office chair.
no way i'd buy a chair without arm rests, EVER.
Why do you look like Larry Bird?
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Fuck your chair kills mine in every single way possible my heap of shit is fixed bro it’s fucked it makes my legs numb after long sessions I need a new chair and my lower back hurts
It's good a DXRacer or AkRacing
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M9 hab u pley gam b4
Kinsal makes a chair a lot like the dxracers and It's honestly phenomenal. If you are like me and spend tons of time at the computer, you are probably going to be spending 180-300 bucks for something that will actually be comfortable in long sessions. I would recommend an "executive" or high end office chair with lumbar and a neck pad or a kinsal, dxracer, maxnomic ect. Anything else and you will just be wishing that you spent the money. Just to be straight up with you, inside of 300 dollars, you cant go wrong with the racing style chairs. You will fall asleep in them and feel rested every time you use them. The 2 chairs in this video are complete trash for gaming imo. The pillows don't slide around either on the racing style chairs. They stay right in place and feel amazing. I don't understand this video.
Those racing style gaming chairs are not great for ergonomics and proper posture and healthy sitting. Like he mentioned in the video they keep your hips tilted back but you want the opposite for sitting a desk for long periods of time. Those racing chairs also have no adjustable back support or seatpan adjustment so if they fit you perfectly then you are lucky, but if you want to make any adjustments you cannot and are stuck with an uncomfortable and unhealthy chair. The racing chairs have decent padding but so do most other ergonomic chairs that you can customize to fit your body and adjust so you are sitting in a healthy posture.
The PT78 chair in this video is one of the best you can get for the price with all the adjustments you can make to it. If you follow his guides and other guides on proper posture in setting up a chair I can guarantee that you will notice a difference in how long you are able to sit at the computer and how your back and legs feel after long sessions. I used to have a racing style chair but after being unable to sit for long sessions I moved to the Herman Miller Embody and immediately noticed a difference. The PT78 is a great option for a 1/3 of the price and I have personally tried it out. It has more cushion than the Embody which has more of a hammock support system but still feels like it will hold up for decades. The PT78 for the same price as a racing style chair has all the adjustments you need to customize the chair to your body and sit with proper posture.
Also if you are worried about the pillows sliding around all the positions you can move lock into place once you want them to and are done adjusting them. All those handles loosen the position and then tighten them once you have them in a place suited to your body.
Those chairs make you slouch. You're not sitting upright. You're disengaging your core and just throwing your hips out front leaning back on your chair which is a death wish. In this posture your neck is literally sitting on your chest and you prop up your neck to look at the monitor and not your back which is going to give you forward head position (FHP) or computer neck syndrome. That is, if you are even self aware enough to appreciate the ethos behind ergonomics.