Breaking Down the thought Process of a Winning Player
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 พ.ย. 2022
- Bart deconstructs the callers hand today on thanksgiving and breaks down how to become a winner at poker.
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I learn a ton from these call ins. Thanks for your work Mr. Bartholomew Hanson.
Any relation to goose Hansen?
I like Bart's thought process in this hand. Couldn't agree more. The big blind should have a plethora of hands in this spot. 76. Ace four of clubs. 34 of clubs. 56 off, K4, Q4, J4, 84, 74, 54 of clubs because he was on the big blind.
The cut off should have hands like pocket threes with the three of clubs. Pocket fives preferably with the club. Pocket sevens and pocket eights.
Sometimes pocket jacks.
I like a bet of 300 on the river.
It's a very simple answer. If your opponent on the cutoff or the big blind raises you all you have to do is ask yourself at what frequency does my opponent make a bluff like this?
If your opponent over bluffs or has shown a propensity to overbluff you're just going to have to call. Because the opponent could be turning hands like pocket sevens and pocket eights into a bluff.
But generally speaking most players don't make those type of plays. Which is why it's important to understand your opponent.
If I had no information on the opponents I would simply fold if I bet $300 and got raised.
Thankful for this today
Interesting hand and good analysis. Hero played it well
I had the same thought as caller on turn, I think OOP raises everything strong on turn and just calls draws like live players do, the CO behind him I think could potentially turn a set of 99 and just call, but then again would CO really raise river vs 1/3 with BB still behind once 87 comes in... would be a really nasty spot to get raised on river vs live players, in theory TT is probably literally the strongest hand we ever have here so we just easily call, but obviously calling river raises against live players is not comparable to GTO
Live poker is tough when you get into hands like this 3 way pot early on. You have no reads or history unless you played several hundred hands with villains beforehand. I believe this to be a well played hand with 2nd nuts in between 2 villains you have no history with
3rd nuts, technically
All chips in good, played perfectly.
Outside of game selection, making big folds are what separate the winning players from the losing players. Most recs won't fold top set here for any bet size
I appreciate your work.
Very True
He checked so he didnt have to fold
Hey I always play at Live in Philly I have to go back there soon
Bart for president!
2024
Of what
I thought the helicopter was my car about to break down lmao
I think that although the thought process of the river check is sound, I've seen people check call with two pair all three streets without raising, or flatting sets before jamming river to wait for a clean runout (And most of the time they're just looking to avoid flushes.) If I'm raised on the river, I'm calling with top set. Call me a fish, but I've seen people overvalue their hand way too much and way too late to take folding out of the question. I've seen people wait to the river to raise with Kings, Aces, two pair, bottom set, etc. Unless your opponents are good (Which is more of a reason to bet for value with busted club draw), I wouldn't worry about bet folding top set on the river.
Just doing my part
What do we do if BB leads out say $700 OTR?
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This is an old one, but it's kind of refreshing. I've been thinking lately that I usually do not like the way the caller/hero plays their hand in any of these. Here though, I thought the hero played it perfect. I do prefer a 4X open pre, but otherwise I thought it was exactly correct.
What does over value or unblock mean?
I'm too lazy to go back and see if 88 or 77 is a possible holding in one of the villians hand, (was half watching and didn;t really pay attention till the end) but those are possible bluff hands, I wouldn't fold set of tens in the river.--if I bet them, which I would have--. guy with 5 8 clubs should have def bluffed river. he blocks both straights
So you bet and then co bluff raises. Then BB calls and you still call? What you expect BB`s range to be when there is still you behind to act?
Anything’s possible 7 8 off suit ? How does he call the 200 on the flop. I’d bet 500 on the river personally. The only thing I’m worried about is 5 3. Just a stupid donkey hand. I’d be looking to get value from 66 44 and 22
Caller deduced otr that a value bet can't get called by worse, yet both players ith have holdings they really shouldn't? 🤔 Seems to me a reasonably sized river bet and evaluate is appropriate. Block sizing is okay since we can get some people to spazz, but, checking top set otr is a long-run mistake, imo.
Is the caller Beans from HCL?
Yes
I could see the big blind having 8-5 suited here, but I'm pretty surprised to see the cutoff with this hand. Shouldn't that hand should be folded 100% of the time preflop from the cutoff? And given that the player didn't fold that hand, I think we need to approach the hand differently, giving them a much wider range with the hands that they call bets with on the flop and turn as well.
I don't have a problem with the big blind calling $20 more preflop closing the action with 8-7 off, but putting in $30 from the cutoff preflop with 8-5 suited I think is a pretty bad play.
Bart said it turned out well for him and some of the comments say how well he played the hand. But he got beat. What am I missing?
Did H say why he checked river?
How do you let 2 callers get there. If you put them on a draw, how do get them off their hand and win the hand. Winning a smaller amount is better than losing the hand, correct? Someone help me out.
Hmm, are you thinking we should make a larger bet on on the turn here?
Yes, let’s get em off their draws
Anyone that’s in that hand with 78o is calling any pot sized bet
No one is folding 87 or a flush draw on the turn to any size less than pot.
Why not all in, they will fold
2\3 turn is not on the larger side on a 642cc-9x board. 220 into 360 is more on the smaller side or medium size.
It is still almost 2/3s OOP into multiple people though. Those other factors make it pretty big even if heads up in position pot+ wouldn't be that weird. The board makes a large bet allowed but it is still a large bet.
@@qazzaqstan how is 2\3 a large bet when it gives direct odds? 2\3 pot will need roughly 28% equity. 85c has roughly 30% equity.
@@RunItTw1ce4858 2/3 is a large turn bet multi-way on a low board
@@MrTopherdrew put it in a solver. Almost never used
@@RunItTw1ce4858 it is with accurate live ranges. Solver polarizes less
Cha'alt!
Why would BB call the flop 80$ with 87o???
He closes action on flop and has a gutshot to straight.
I think it’s a bad call. Sure he closing the action and drawing to the nuts.
But he only has 3 outs to the nuts, since the 5c makes a flush possible. And even if he does spike one of the other 5s, he’s oop and it creates a one liner to a 3 which will mean sets and overpairs are very likely to check behind on the turn.
Seems like a bad call to me.
thought process of a winning player? Hah! at 2/5 maybe, but Brian gets torched at 10/10. He knows it too, that's why whenever he sits down he gets this nervous tick where he starts trying to bite his ear like a dog with fleas.x
hahahaha I was wondering who Brian from parx was but you explained it perfectly, now I know the kid. Nice guy.
5:25... Hand recap
Bet fold on the river? There were only two hands to beat you. 35 and 78. Maybe it’s a leak but I don’t think I’m folding.
Yeah that's a nice check on the river, if everyone is playing the hand like they are on draws it really is hard to get called by worse.
You are saying that 89c, 9T, A9c, AT would folded to a river bet?
@@pot_kivach160 how did A/10 get to this river, it can't be A/10 of clubs because hero has the 10 of clubs - 8/9 yeah maybe - risk vs reward - pigs get fat hogs get slaughtered
@@no1ghostrider I never meant Tc. If you read more carefully my original post, you'll find it there. Thank you for the reply.
78o.😂😂😂😂
Yeah but what does our hand look like to our opponents when we bet 3 streets on the river here? Especially if we block bet? Looks like over pair to me. I think a block bet gets bluff raised allot here by anyone creative, no?
A good player would also block bet with the nuts so that their range is protected
Why can't hero have 99 or 1010? It's not just AA, KK, QQ etc
That’s assuming villains are bluffing enough of course.
@@JeffreyYamada maybe some gto robot but no real live 10/10 player is block betting 8/7 at the end multiway. If im the bb in this hand and hero bets and the co folds im bluff raising big a lot.
Check 100 spots only exist when opponents are capable of check raising correctly. When you node lock people to XR bluff less there are no check 100 spots.
You’d get wrecked on global-ubetin
Only English and I’ll play u heads up
Bart, I love your work. Remove the gum, mate.
the math is wrong, pot should be 1020 on the river
The graphic was wrong but Bart did announce the correct pot size at that moment.
Thought this guy was going to be mid-hand
If you're not going broke to a shove here, you're not playing with +EV. Would be a horrible fold
This is a over bet turn spot
Drink every time the caller says "like". Like when he says like, you like, drink like an alcohol shot from like a glass and then you like repeat it.
I can't stop hearing it now.
The caller needs to address this issue. His “like” habit is intolerable.
i love constantly being beat by players holding random cards they shouldn't have given the action and then donking their way into a made hand
The amount of times the caller says like makes me cringe.
like like like like like jesus
all these specific names for the player position seem just like finance where terms are overly complex for no reason. it should just be like 1st 2nd 3rd 4th… etc lol
Overly complex? 😂
The problem with that is youd always need to reference how many players to know if 4th, 5th, 6th etc is the cut off or whatever
First. Idk what Bart says. He’s wrong. 😄
The caller is horrible at explaining this hand
I feel like Bart literally learned the phrase "Check 100" this last week. He has said this phrase EVERY video recently
Ok. I'll let him know to say it less to disguise your discovery.
@@eternalselph Thanks
@@charlesnewborn3760 no problem. Any other requests? He is my brother in law so I can let him know anything and he's generally pretty cool about most things.
@@eternalselph hey man you could let him know for me I love his videos!
@@eternalselph maybe some tshirt color variety?