damn, on the plus side, they work alright in Wii Nunchucks if you want to use a stick from a nunchuck you can just replace it with one of the knockoff ones!
*Update* So the sticks came in the mail and I put them in and if you actually pull up on the the joy stick after it's installed a little bit, they are just as good as the original. It makes it clicky again and not mushy.
Mark Ferris I thought about doing something like this. The hole is tiny, how did you get it in there? Did you push it down with a paper clip or something of that nature?
To anyone who is wondering, the cheap knock off joysticks aren't that bad. You just need a small bit of sandpaper and blu-tack. The issue is is that the stick itself most of the time is to small and catches on the edges of the controller, the stick can also clip that solder because of it. With some fine sandpaper you can file down that part of the plastic to create a small enough notch to where it'll miss it and emulate it. The Blu-tack you can put into the insert of the joystick, a very small amount of course but it will prop the stick up enough to where it won't catch and it'll feel exactly the same as an OEM stick.
Because of this video, I learned that C Sticks, regular sticks, nunchuk and Wii U sticks are all the same standard. That's amazing! Immediately went and dug out a crappy bootleg controller to steal its stick and I replaced my worn out C stick WITH ANOTHER MAIN STICK! Ha, it's just so cool, I've always wanted that. Feels good too!
The increased height is actually a thing. If you've ever heard of fps freaks, its a brand that makes caps that go over your controller's sticks (normally Xbox or ps) that increase the stick height and theoretically give you more precision. So the nunchuck stick may increase your ftilt, utilt, and turnaround precision. Obviously tho practice is going to give you the most benefit but you may notice a difference.
Happy this comment is here, wanted to mention that as well. While it's not a big difference, it is one to keep in mind. Generally, if you use a lot of movement tech like perfect pivoting or dash dancing, a shorter stick makes that much easier, where the longer stick makes precise spacing easier. Maining Robin in SSB4, having my movement be a numchuck stick is great since she doesn't have a ton of movement tech and I value being able to place aerials exactly where I want them. Playing a spacie in Melee however, I'd want that shorter stick for easier dash dancing in neutral and easier wave dashes.
My thoughts exactly. I think once I get my thumb speed a little faster (which is my biggest struggle in melee) i might switch to a longer stick to improve my pivot uptilt consistency.
The sticks are actually giving that "mushy feeling" because they aren't made tall enough (or the rubber grip on top of the control stick isn't short enough) so it rubs on your case. A slight error in their molds apparently either made the peg hole too deep, or the stick shorter. Putting a tiny sliver of paper or something really small pushed into it to remove a tiny bit of room for the peg fixed that problem for me.
I know this comment is 4 years old, but even on my official smash gc controller, the newer one for ultimate, the controll stick slides in too far. I’m gonna try out that trick, you might have just saved my stick.
You're quickly becoming one of my favorite chanels in youtube! You share the same passion than me for controllers and that is awesome. Have you ever considered doing a video where you just show every gamecube controller you own and a bit of history about it? I would love to see your colllection! Keep up the great content.
thanks man! id love to make that video - if i can think of enough interesting things about each one. lol i used one controller for a long time and still have it so theres some history behind it but a lot of it is like stuff not many ppl would care about lol. i will def try to make it though!
This video helped me out so much. I bought my controller from JJGames a few months ago. The control stick came without grip and I wanted to replace it so I bought the "low tier" caps from ebay. The control stick was really hard to spin around the edge and was very grimy feeling, I assumed it was just the stick box. After watching this video I immediately realized that it was the stupid ebay sticks. I replaced them with nunchuck sticks and now it works like a charm!
Hey thanks man, I've managed to replace my old chewed up GC Controller joysticks with a cheap Nunchuck Joystick! It feels 10x better and I highly recommend to everyone!
I actually like the knockoff sticks more lol. I make the little cutout myself. I find the "mushy" feel kinda helps with weird angles if you don't have additional notches. I like the nunchuk stick idea. I will recommend that to my buddy who prefers long sticks. overall awesome video!
Im so happy I found this video, I was in the market for a official controller and a retro game store I frequently go to had one that felt pretty good but it had no plastic grips. I have several nunchucks to use a replacements so I'm real happy!
Kinda related topic. Let's say you have two identical controllers: each with 1 busted analog stick and 1 working analog stick. The official Nintendo controllers use the same component on the board for both the C-stick and control stick, so after a quick desolder on both controllers, you can replace the motherboard component itself to give yourself 1 great controller and 1 bad controller. I did that as one of my first soldering jobs ever, so it's the kind of thing anyone can do given the right tools.
I found a solution for replacement control sticks that do not click when you move fully in any direction. You need to increase the height at which they sit on the white peg. I did this by wadding up a tiny piece of a plastic bag, putting it into the hole under the stick, and then inserting the stick on the white peg.
Thank you for this tip! I just ordered my first wavebird (one per month, those things are expensive :P) and now i don't have to worry about the worn sticks.
Thank you so much! I watched this video after i installed the new stick and having it not click. I lost hope when he said that this was a side effect on replacement sticks, but this actually worked for me! Thanks again.
One year later I personally recommend anyone on a budget to use this method. It's incredibly easy, cheap, and a way to use your custom painted sticks if you buy a set of the same colored ones on eBay without the mush that all of these manufactured ones get. Feels great!
I've also seen some sellers selling joystick caps that are molded the same way as the ones in your knockoff controllers. However, they are fewer and they're usually a bit more expensive. I've also bought some knockoff controllers that had your replacement caps.
Honestly I dig the look of the white Wii u sticks. If I had an all white controller I would replace the sticks with those and get white replacement buttons
I know this is an old video, but that "mushy" feeling is because the bottom side of the rubber top on 3rd party sticks will actually rub/grind on the plastic shell, so it wont fully has that clicky feeling
When it comes about increasing the grip on the left stick, the Thumb Grips that you buy from EBGames/Gamestop for the Switch Joycons actually fit optimally the Gamecube controller stick too!
Did it work out well with the third party nunchucks? Do you have the click ? I want to refirbish my GC Controllers for SSBU and got 2 broken left Stick Pads.
It's worth noting that the stick on the nunchuck also gives you a bit more leverage and thus makes the stick feel a bit more loose. I use one on the controller I use for Rivals of Aether, and it's pretty nice, though it's really weird when using it for Smash 4. And even though I haven't tried it out yet myself, I've also heard that Playstation 2 controller analog sticks make for a good alternative.
Hey, try sticking a tiny piece of paper into the Low tier thumbstick it will raise the stick up a little bit so the sides of the gate don't come in contact with the rubber grip.
Funny enough the five below that I have been to a few times. I have never seen any GameCube controllers there... Though I don't know if that should be considered a blessing in disguise LOL
Great video man. I'm a big fan of the gamecube controller and also have a crazy obsession over them. I'm currently in the process of purchasing and trying out all the different custom button providers out on the market. All of this information is great and very well organized! I'm a big fan of the way you layout your gamecube controller videos. It's super good for those who are looking into making adjustments to their gamecube controller but don't really know what they are looking for. There's a discord out there for gamecube controller modders / specialist and I think you'd fit in just right. I know it sounds like advertisement, but there's just so many little tidbits of info in there that makes it worth the time to look through. LMK if you're interested and I can PM you the link.
The cheap knock off ones you talk about first have that mushy feeling I believe because they have a straight up and down cross pattern internally, meaning the plastic on the bottom will press against the plastic side bits of the stick box. The OEM Nintendo thumb sticks have an x shaped cross support in them. That's just my theory tho, I can't PROVE it.
When I first saw the bootleg analog on the GameCube controller when I brought it not knowing I was shocked when this was refurbished with that. Also I have a Clear/Indigo controller similar to that but it clicks real good, the colour is the same as a regular analog stick.
If you put a small amount of cotton from a Q tip into the underside hole of the knock off analog stick that the control box slots into, it actually rises it up a bit. Fixes the "mushy feeling"
Yo, there's actually an easy way to fix the mushy feeling on the knockoff thumbsticks. Just get some fine grit sandpaper and rub it under the cap of the stick around the whole circumference. Feels just like the real thing after that
For anyone interested, you can actually print a joystick spacer to make the 3rd party replacements usable (main issue with 3rd party replacements is that they sit too low)
Man watching this video got me super excited since I have an ancient third party GC controller made by GameStop that was overall trash but the sticks were amazing, but as it turns out the sticks in those actually can't be put on a regular GC controller due to the completely different shape of the hole in the bottom of the stick. Thankfully it's smaller and not larger than on a regular GC controller so if I really wanted to I could file it into the correct shape. TL;DR if you want replacement sticks don't buy a Gamestop brand GC controller.
I will tell you from experience. If you use the c-stick a lot (the cheap third party c stick), in any direction, the rubber cap will come off. I bought 2 sets and within 2 days of buying the, both caps came off and i actually cut my thumb on the plastic
The replacement sticks do indeed feel "mushy" but there is a really easy fix for it that I found yesterday while replacing mine. Once you have replaced the sticks and re-aseembled the controller just pull the stick up! It will click, and it will feel just like the original too!
This is a great video. Just wanted to add that you can use a PS1/PS2/maybe PS3 dual shock joystick caps. I have a friend who plays Tekken and prefers the feel of the Playstation grip. They fit no problem.
Just wanted to say that I replaced my sticks twice one with a nunchuck stick and then I went to Xbox one control sticks I gotta say I absolutely love the feel of the xbone sticks. The indentation that it has makes easier for me personally to do certain techniques especially thing like waveshineing when I do it on a normal gamecube stick my finger slips right off and I end up flubbing a lot.
FYI on those first Low Tier sticks that have the 'Mushy' feel that doesn't click, I found a solution to at least make them manageable. The socket that slides onto the stick-box is actually a little too deep. If you put just a little bit of paper into the hole, and then slide it on the stick-box, it gives it the extra height it needs to not totally suck. Still not a perfect option obviously, but I was able to at least get a couple of my raw-stick, C-tier controllers a 'casual-friendly' refurb.
I only have one gamecube controller and my brother got it from a friend. That friend had dogs... anyway so I need new sticks. This helped soo much. I will use the nunchucks sticks until i can get a better controller or sticks.
Old video but I’d like to mention some things about these chinese buttons no matter what color or if they are replica knockoffs: -Left stick: is prone to being too short, a fix would be to get some tin foil and put it in the whole and use a small tool( tiny screw driver or whatever) to push it in. Fixes it just fine and wont cause the stick to slide off the stick box or anything like that. Unless you put too much. - C stick: may have too much left over plastic in its hole making it tall and giving it a scraping/grinding kind of feeling. just get some small tool to scrap it out and you’re fine. Best tool would be a metal/wood/plastic filing set and they can cost around $8 for a set. these are very helpful for the next problems - C on stick being upside down: this can happen a lot with the laziness that is chinese made items. use that filer to make a original shape on the other side( that little nub on the stick box) and slide it in.👌🏼 - Z button: then if you buy button sets the Z-button needs some filing for it to work, as in fully removing the long peg and filing the smaller peg to be thinner. hard to explain but you get the point. If you have a wavebird and notice the Z button looking different from a gamecube controller, that is pretty much how it’s gonna look like after your filing. Nothing we can do about it but if you want to use your controller again you have to do these. Nintendo doesn’t constantly make controllers so we need to preserve them before the become extinct. I do know of people trying to make replica montherboards to be identical to nintendo’s but i dont know when that’ll be finished and ready.
I've tried the nunchuck stick, it is bad for people who hold the control stick with their thumb only, but if you're one of those people like me who holds the control stick with their thumb and index finger then it's a pretty good replacement.
I recently bought colored gamecube sticks from a vendor called Zedlabz, and their analog sticks are pretty decent and they fit/work well...however the C-stick didn't really work too good since it felt like it would grind against the inner parts of the controller. So if anyone is looking for colored sticks or just replacements, you could check them out if you wanna be cheap. However you're probably just better off buying a controller from Ebay and scrapping it for parts
I was quite lucky to find a GC controller straight out of the box from 2002, I had it tucked away and found it recently after going through my old gaming stuff, playing on it is absolutely fucking sexy, the L/R shoulder buttons glide so smoothly, and have a sexy click for a digital press, the left stick feels so smooth, but it has a click for every gate corner and it feels amazing to dash forward and then wavedash back, it's the controller I use for tournament play, and practicing, I feel bad that this isn't the standard, but that's just how it is :c
the mushy feel can be solved. you have to put a little piece of paper into the hole on the bottom of the stick so that when u put it on to the controller it lift its up slightly so no contact is made with the controller and the rubber to get rid of the mushy feel
I know this vid is kinda old but for any thumbsticks that don’t “click” an easy fix for them is cotton swabs. Taken a bit of the cotton and stuff them into the sticks. Add or take out as needed.
Since you said a 3rd party controllers have bad deadzones, could you be able to solder off the old analog sticks and solder new ones? Figured that would make a crappy 3rd party controllers a little better
I personally love the taller sticks in nunchuclks because they are smooth in the center and i like that, also I have really poor sensory in my fingers so the taller sticks provide easier fine input at the price of longer travel times. This does help me in melee and pm but its a much bigger benefit in SSX games. Just wanted to make that clear because I assume most people here are exclusively interested in smash performance.
Puunk_ they definitely have a unique feel and i actually really like them! just like the originals more haha but I definitely see the benefit they can have!
I've been using the Wii pro controller sticks same as the nunchuck but black for years now. I heard snapback can be an issue with them but I don't have it
How resilient are gamecube sticks exactly? Like, i'm a smash ultimate player with mr game and watch. I don't wavedash or do crazy melee- esque stuff but it worries me
the ones that come in the button kit? Personally I would use the Ebay stick then. ONLY because I am so used to the height/shape of it more. Nothing technically wrong with the nunchuck stick though!
yeah right, the stick in the button kit. I'm also not a great fan of the nunchuck because I would need time to get comfortable with it Nice, thank you :) white and transparant are already on their way.
How do you feel about replacing just the caps? It's hard to find ones strictly for the GCN, but I'm wondering if the diameter of other console controller stick caps can fit onto a GCC?
I hope this helps someone. I go through analog sticks like crazy. my thumbs must just be destructive. lol. so I brought 5 pairs of the zedlabs sticks thinking they would work as replacements.. but I have that issue where the head of the analog stick hits the body of the controller, and feels 'gummy' when playing. My solution was to cut a small piece of a cotton wool bud, and stuff the inside of the analog stick fitting so that it was permanently more raised off the board. Now, the only contact with the controller body is the neck of the analog stick . works good.
i didn't know where to ask something like this, but i'm interested in swapping out the gamecube d-pad for a broken wiimote's d-pad that i have. it fits in the shell, but the pad is too short on the bottom, so i want to try & create a "spacer" to make it fit. i have some thick foam board that i can cut, would that work?
I bought a wavebird once that had these replacement sticks in it. I wasn't very happy about the non-clicky feeling of the stick so I decided to file down the bottom edge of it. I kept doing it until every direction was clicky. Certainly no where near as good as the OEM sticks but better than the feeling before. It's too bad there isn't a vendor that makes sticks that are halfway decent.
Why are gamecube controllers so fascinating lol
Mirage_SSB4 ikr
Mirage_SSB4 smash bros
Because nobody can just make good, cheap controllers.
Mirage_SSB4 most diversity
xbone sticks works perfectly too and they are cheap.
Well shit, I'm literally waiting for my knock off sticks in the mail. I wish I had seen this video a week ago lol
damn, on the plus side, they work alright in Wii Nunchucks if you want to use a stick from a nunchuck you can just replace it with one of the knockoff ones!
zenith SSBM yes thanks! That was very informative. I never even thought that was an option. I will have to try it out!
*Update* So the sticks came in the mail and I put them in and if you actually pull up on the the joy stick after it's installed a little bit, they are just as good as the original. It makes it clicky again and not mushy.
I put a little wadded up piece of paper in mine to prevent it from getting pushed down further during gameplay. I can hardly notice a difference now.
Mark Ferris I thought about doing something like this. The hole is tiny, how did you get it in there? Did you push it down with a paper clip or something of that nature?
To anyone who is wondering, the cheap knock off joysticks aren't that bad. You just need a small bit of sandpaper and blu-tack. The issue is is that the stick itself most of the time is to small and catches on the edges of the controller, the stick can also clip that solder because of it. With some fine sandpaper you can file down that part of the plastic to create a small enough notch to where it'll miss it and emulate it. The Blu-tack you can put into the insert of the joystick, a very small amount of course but it will prop the stick up enough to where it won't catch and it'll feel exactly the same as an OEM stick.
You honestly deserve more subs. these videos are interesting way of the "review spectrum" And a good way to let people know
thanks man! :) glad you like it!
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2019 and the stick market has increased in quality dramatically.
Really? Where do you buy yours from?
@@spentrek3624 - I also want to know.
I need like 3 or more.
@caleb b c'mon tell us where
Everybody unlike the comment and like it again to get his attention.
Because of this video, I learned that C Sticks, regular sticks, nunchuk and Wii U sticks are all the same standard. That's amazing! Immediately went and dug out a crappy bootleg controller to steal its stick and I replaced my worn out C stick WITH ANOTHER MAIN STICK! Ha, it's just so cool, I've always wanted that. Feels good too!
The increased height is actually a thing. If you've ever heard of fps freaks, its a brand that makes caps that go over your controller's sticks (normally Xbox or ps) that increase the stick height and theoretically give you more precision. So the nunchuck stick may increase your ftilt, utilt, and turnaround precision. Obviously tho practice is going to give you the most benefit but you may notice a difference.
Happy this comment is here, wanted to mention that as well. While it's not a big difference, it is one to keep in mind. Generally, if you use a lot of movement tech like perfect pivoting or dash dancing, a shorter stick makes that much easier, where the longer stick makes precise spacing easier.
Maining Robin in SSB4, having my movement be a numchuck stick is great since she doesn't have a ton of movement tech and I value being able to place aerials exactly where I want them. Playing a spacie in Melee however, I'd want that shorter stick for easier dash dancing in neutral and easier wave dashes.
My thoughts exactly. I think once I get my thumb speed a little faster (which is my biggest struggle in melee) i might switch to a longer stick to improve my pivot uptilt consistency.
keep in mind that you will have to move the stick faster in order to get smash inputs on the stick, including making it harder to get dashbacks
WispBae Dogima well wouldn’t it be good to have the C-stick be taller then and the movement stick be shorter to have the best of both worlds?
people use the C - stick for aerials and smashes, sou you really don't need it to be taller since it's options are kinda binary@@fredit123456789
4:51 Serious Melee or Smash Brothers...We all know, thanks to Years of research, that Melee is not Smash
The sticks are actually giving that "mushy feeling" because they aren't made tall enough (or the rubber grip on top of the control stick isn't short enough) so it rubs on your case. A slight error in their molds apparently either made the peg hole too deep, or the stick shorter. Putting a tiny sliver of paper or something really small pushed into it to remove a tiny bit of room for the peg fixed that problem for me.
I know this comment is 4 years old, but even on my official smash gc controller, the newer one for ultimate, the controll stick slides in too far. I’m gonna try out that trick, you might have just saved my stick.
@@keeganfaulkner1240 understandable, good luck!
@@keeganfaulkner1240 did it work
@@yoohzi I never got to try. The stick broke and I replaced it. I don’t have issues with it now
You're quickly becoming one of my favorite chanels in youtube! You share the same passion than me for controllers and that is awesome. Have you ever considered doing a video where you just show every gamecube controller you own and a bit of history about it? I would love to see your colllection! Keep up the great content.
thanks man! id love to make that video - if i can think of enough interesting things about each one. lol i used one controller for a long time and still have it so theres some history behind it but a lot of it is like stuff not many ppl would care about lol. i will def try to make it though!
zenith SSBM I would wanna see that vid lol
@@zenithSSBM - Did you make this video? It would be an easy upload while your hand is healing!
This video helped me out so much. I bought my controller from JJGames a few months ago. The control stick came without grip and I wanted to replace it so I bought the "low tier" caps from ebay. The control stick was really hard to spin around the edge and was very grimy feeling, I assumed it was just the stick box. After watching this video I immediately realized that it was the stupid ebay sticks. I replaced them with nunchuck sticks and now it works like a charm!
so happy to hear that man! glad i could help :D
Hey thanks man, I've managed to replace my old chewed up GC Controller joysticks with a cheap Nunchuck Joystick! It feels 10x better and I highly recommend to everyone!
I actually like the knockoff sticks more lol. I make the little cutout myself. I find the "mushy" feel kinda helps with weird angles if you don't have additional notches. I like the nunchuk stick idea. I will recommend that to my buddy who prefers long sticks. overall awesome video!
I'm glad i found your channel bro!I'm glad someone is making GameCube controller modification/how to style
your channel has made me interested in melee again :)
MrzZReZaZz really happy to hear that man! means alot :D
Same
Im so happy I found this video, I was in the market for a official controller and a retro game store I frequently go to had one that felt pretty good but it had no plastic grips. I have several nunchucks to use a replacements so I'm real happy!
glad i could help! :D
I've used nunchuck sticks for about a year now and I think they're amazing.
Kinda related topic.
Let's say you have two identical controllers: each with 1 busted analog stick and 1 working analog stick.
The official Nintendo controllers use the same component on the board for both the C-stick and control stick, so after a quick desolder on both controllers, you can replace the motherboard component itself to give yourself 1 great controller and 1 bad controller. I did that as one of my first soldering jobs ever, so it's the kind of thing anyone can do given the right tools.
thats cool man! learning all about the boards of controllers is what im gonna try tackling next
I found a solution for replacement control sticks that do not click when you move fully in any direction. You need to increase the height at which they sit on the white peg. I did this by wadding up a tiny piece of a plastic bag, putting it into the hole under the stick, and then inserting the stick on the white peg.
great idea!
Thank you for this tip! I just ordered my first wavebird (one per month, those things are expensive :P) and now i don't have to worry about the worn sticks.
Thank you so much! I watched this video after i installed the new stick and having it not click. I lost hope when he said that this was a side effect on replacement sticks, but this actually worked for me! Thanks again.
Thanks for saving my purchase
One year later I personally recommend anyone on a budget to use this method. It's incredibly easy, cheap, and a way to use your custom painted sticks if you buy a set of the same colored ones on eBay without the mush that all of these manufactured ones get. Feels great!
Been using third-party Xbox ONE replacement sticks and honestly Im not switching back. Theyre absolutely amazinggggg
I've also seen some sellers selling joystick caps that are molded the same way as the ones in your knockoff controllers. However, they are fewer and they're usually a bit more expensive. I've also bought some knockoff controllers that had your replacement caps.
Thanks for doing the Lord's work
Honestly I dig the look of the white Wii u sticks. If I had an all white controller I would replace the sticks with those and get white replacement buttons
I know this is an old video, but that "mushy" feeling is because the bottom side of the rubber top on 3rd party sticks will actually rub/grind on the plastic shell, so it wont fully has that clicky feeling
When it comes about increasing the grip on the left stick, the Thumb Grips that you buy from EBGames/Gamestop for the Switch Joycons actually fit optimally the Gamecube controller stick too!
Well. Glad those third party nunchuks I bought can actually do something.
Did it work out well with the third party nunchucks? Do you have the click ? I want to refirbish my GC Controllers for SSBU and got 2 broken left Stick Pads.
theres another thing to note with the lower end sticks is that they wear super quick like in two weeks the ridges will be completely gone
It's worth noting that the stick on the nunchuck also gives you a bit more leverage and thus makes the stick feel a bit more loose. I use one on the controller I use for Rivals of Aether, and it's pretty nice, though it's really weird when using it for Smash 4.
And even though I haven't tried it out yet myself, I've also heard that Playstation 2 controller analog sticks make for a good alternative.
what method do you use to get it to fit?
I replaced my GC thumbstick with a Wii classic controller thumbstick and I honestly love it so much.
Hey, try sticking a tiny piece of paper into the Low tier thumbstick it will raise the stick up a little bit so the sides of the gate don't come in contact with the rubber grip.
My gc controller control stick has the rubber ripped a little and damn does it hurt when I'm playing smash so thanks for the video 😳
Waffles 13 same
Waffles 13 I just use a glove for my left hand. Doesn't hurt at all.
bro is crazy That you use a glove to play, just get use to it, is like play guitar after a month of doing it does not hurt your fingers anymore
Funny enough the five below that I have been to a few times. I have never seen any GameCube controllers there... Though I don't know if that should be considered a blessing in disguise LOL
Great video man. I'm a big fan of the gamecube controller and also have a crazy obsession over them. I'm currently in the process of purchasing and trying out all the different custom button providers out on the market.
All of this information is great and very well organized! I'm a big fan of the way you layout your gamecube controller videos. It's super good for those who are looking into making adjustments to their gamecube controller but don't really know what they are looking for.
There's a discord out there for gamecube controller modders / specialist and I think you'd fit in just right. I know it sounds like advertisement, but there's just so many little tidbits of info in there that makes it worth the time to look through. LMK if you're interested and I can PM you the link.
corpJJ hey i am a gamecube obsessed modder myself. i would like to join the gamecube chat!
Oh geez, I can't send you a PM. Maybe some other form of messaging can be used. Do you have a twitter?
yes my twitter is @rainuva_
Just shot you a tweet man!
corpJJ got it thx!
Where would one buy official replacement sticks?
Very informative video. Exactly the sort of examination I was searching for. Thanks a ton for this.
glad it helped! :)
hey man. I do like your videos. they are basic and easy to watch. keep it up. can't wait to see your next video!
The cheap knock off ones you talk about first have that mushy feeling I believe because they have a straight up and down cross pattern internally, meaning the plastic on the bottom will press against the plastic side bits of the stick box. The OEM Nintendo thumb sticks have an x shaped cross support in them. That's just my theory tho, I can't PROVE it.
When I first saw the bootleg analog on the GameCube controller when I brought it not knowing I was shocked when this was refurbished with that. Also I have a Clear/Indigo controller similar to that but it clicks real good, the colour is the same as a regular analog stick.
If you put a small amount of cotton from a Q tip into the underside hole of the knock off analog stick that the control box slots into, it actually rises it up a bit. Fixes the "mushy feeling"
Yo, there's actually an easy way to fix the mushy feeling on the knockoff thumbsticks. Just get some fine grit sandpaper and rub it under the cap of the stick around the whole circumference. Feels just like the real thing after that
For anyone interested, you can actually print a joystick spacer to make the 3rd party replacements usable (main issue with 3rd party replacements is that they sit too low)
Do you know where to find the file to print?
Where would the link to this print be?
Man watching this video got me super excited since I have an ancient third party GC controller made by GameStop that was overall trash but the sticks were amazing, but as it turns out the sticks in those actually can't be put on a regular GC controller due to the completely different shape of the hole in the bottom of the stick. Thankfully it's smaller and not larger than on a regular GC controller so if I really wanted to I could file it into the correct shape.
TL;DR if you want replacement sticks don't buy a Gamestop brand GC controller.
Wow, so much useful information! Now I now what to do with my broken nunchuck!
:D
Can you someone give me the link to the best one cuz he didnt attach ANYTHING :((
I will tell you from experience. If you use the c-stick a lot (the cheap third party c stick), in any direction, the rubber cap will come off. I bought 2 sets and within 2 days of buying the, both caps came off and i actually cut my thumb on the plastic
Thank you so much, you helped me understand a lot about modifying the controllers and earned a subscription!
my gamecube is coming the 18th im exited!
The replacement sticks do indeed feel "mushy" but there is a really easy fix for it that I found yesterday while replacing mine.
Once you have replaced the sticks and re-aseembled the controller just pull the stick up! It will click, and it will feel just like the original too!
This is a great video. Just wanted to add that you can use a PS1/PS2/maybe PS3 dual shock joystick caps. I have a friend who plays Tekken and prefers the feel of the Playstation grip. They fit no problem.
with no modification to them? thats amazing!
What about the controller used for super smash bros on the *n 6 4*
Just wanted to say that I replaced my sticks twice one with a nunchuck stick and then I went to Xbox one control sticks I gotta say I absolutely love the feel of the xbone sticks. The indentation that it has makes easier for me personally to do certain techniques especially thing like waveshineing when I do it on a normal gamecube stick my finger slips right off and I end up flubbing a lot.
you got them to work? i always heard they dont fit and mine certainly didnt. whered you buy yours?
zenith SSBM same, mine certainly didn't
Awesome vid! Very informative. I'm Quite obsessed with controllers myself, so this really got me ideas. Thanks!
FYI on those first Low Tier sticks that have the 'Mushy' feel that doesn't click, I found a solution to at least make them manageable.
The socket that slides onto the stick-box is actually a little too deep. If you put just a little bit of paper into the hole, and then slide it on the stick-box, it gives it the extra height it needs to not totally suck.
Still not a perfect option obviously, but I was able to at least get a couple of my raw-stick, C-tier controllers a 'casual-friendly' refurb.
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Awesome, I might get one now.
right, good solution.
I only have one gamecube controller and my brother got it from a friend. That friend had dogs... anyway so I need new sticks. This helped soo much. I will use the nunchucks sticks until i can get a better controller or sticks.
I might be putting original duke sticks in one of my GC smash controllers. Want to see if it works.
Old video but I’d like to mention some things about these chinese buttons no matter what color or if they are replica knockoffs:
-Left stick: is prone to being too short, a fix would be to get some tin foil and put it in the whole and use a small tool( tiny screw driver or whatever) to push it in. Fixes it just fine and wont cause the stick to slide off the stick box or anything like that. Unless you put too much.
- C stick: may have too much left over plastic in its hole making it tall and giving it a scraping/grinding kind of feeling. just get some small tool to scrap it out and you’re fine. Best tool would be a metal/wood/plastic filing set and they can cost around $8 for a set. these are very helpful for the next problems
- C on stick being upside down: this can happen a lot with the laziness that is chinese made items. use that filer to make a original shape on the other side( that little nub on the stick box) and slide it in.👌🏼
- Z button: then if you buy button sets the Z-button needs some filing for it to work, as in fully removing the long peg and filing the smaller peg to be thinner. hard to explain but you get the point. If you have a wavebird and notice the Z button looking different from a gamecube controller, that is pretty much how it’s gonna look like after your filing.
Nothing we can do about it but if you want to use your controller again you have to do these. Nintendo doesn’t constantly make controllers so we need to preserve them before the become extinct. I do know of people trying to make replica montherboards to be identical to nintendo’s but i dont know when that’ll be finished and ready.
Is the cut out in 2:46 really not important? I feel like it is for some reason
I've tried the nunchuck stick, it is bad for people who hold the control stick with their thumb only, but if you're one of those people like me who holds the control stick with their thumb and index finger then it's a pretty good replacement.
i got metal caps on my control sticks to stop any issues with rubber wearing down
Is there a link to get the official replacement pads?
Where you got them original ones ? Can’t find them nowhere
I recently bought colored gamecube sticks from a vendor called Zedlabz, and their analog sticks are pretty decent and they fit/work well...however the C-stick didn't really work too good since it felt like it would grind against the inner parts of the controller. So if anyone is looking for colored sticks or just replacements, you could check them out if you wanna be cheap. However you're probably just better off buying a controller from Ebay and scrapping it for parts
yes but what if I replace the main stick with a C stick? :P
I've heard of a ps3 stick also working but I have yet to see how well it performs
I was quite lucky to find a GC controller straight out of the box from 2002, I had it tucked away and found it recently after going through my old gaming stuff, playing on it is absolutely fucking sexy, the L/R shoulder buttons glide so smoothly, and have a sexy click for a digital press, the left stick feels so smooth, but it has a click for every gate corner and it feels amazing to dash forward and then wavedash back, it's the controller I use for tournament play, and practicing, I feel bad that this isn't the standard, but that's just how it is :c
Can you please give us the links for the gamecube style one's?
the mushy feel can be solved. you have to put a little piece of paper into the hole on the bottom of the stick so that when u put it on to the controller it lift its up slightly so no contact is made with the controller and the rubber to get rid of the mushy feel
I thought I was the only one who noticed this, all my friends called me crazy.
can someone link me to a good deal for oem gamecube controller sticks
Where would i buy OEM ones
Yo you deserve way more subs, this content is amazing
Phoneguy 21 thanks man! always trying to improve
The classic wii controller's sticks also fit on the gamecube controller
I know this vid is kinda old but for any thumbsticks that don’t “click” an easy fix for them is cotton swabs. Taken a bit of the cotton and stuff them into the sticks. Add or take out as needed.
What do you mean? I do this to pressure the stick? Or putting the cottom on the controller? Dont seem to work out
Since you said a 3rd party controllers have bad deadzones, could you be able to solder off the old analog sticks and solder new ones? Figured that would make a crappy 3rd party controllers a little better
So all the first party sticks you have came from broken controllers?
Javtastrophe lmao no im just a loser and actually bought around that many (a few are from broken controllers tho)
I personally love the taller sticks in nunchuclks because they are smooth in the center and i like that, also I have really poor sensory in my fingers so the taller sticks provide easier fine input at the price of longer travel times. This does help me in melee and pm but its a much bigger benefit in SSX games. Just wanted to make that clear because I assume most people here are exclusively interested in smash performance.
Puunk_ they definitely have a unique feel and i actually really like them! just like the originals more haha but I definitely see the benefit they can have!
Is it possible to use the nunchuck analogs instead of the GC one? By that I mean swap the entire analog, not only the rubber part.
Yes it is
I've been using the Wii pro controller sticks same as the nunchuck but black for years now. I heard snapback can be an issue with them but I don't have it
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The taller stick on the nunchuck lets you hit perfect firefox and wavedash angles easier. You will lose some dash dance speed though.
Good stuff here. What would you recomed for Switch?
How resilient are gamecube sticks exactly? Like, i'm a smash ultimate player with mr game and watch. I don't wavedash or do crazy melee- esque stuff but it worries me
Thank you so much for this!!
So to compare:
Would you use the nunchuk stick or the chinese ebay coloured stick if you had to? Thanks
the ones that come in the button kit? Personally I would use the Ebay stick then. ONLY because I am so used to the height/shape of it more. Nothing technically wrong with the nunchuck stick though!
yeah right, the stick in the button kit.
I'm also not a great fan of the nunchuck because I would need time to get comfortable with it
Nice, thank you :)
white and transparant are already on their way.
I use a nunchuck thumbstick, I like the extra hight, it feels weird playing with a regular stick because I'm so used to it.
How do you feel about replacing just the caps? It's hard to find ones strictly for the GCN, but I'm wondering if the diameter of other console controller stick caps can fit onto a GCC?
People on etsy do sell caps for the sticks
Can the powera gamecubes be changed?
Si reemplazo los stick analógicos del nunchuck por los stick analógicos de joystick de gamecube, funcionará en el joystick de gamecube?
I just opened up my gamecube controller, and saw a ring of dirt (I presume). Is it same to use a Q-Tip dipped in rubbing alcohol to clean it?
Ive had 2 controllers i havent used in ages due to bad sticks. After 12yrs ill be able to use them
Does the nunchuck stick affect dashback?
My controller, has the rubber part making contact with the shell. How do I fix it? Do I just need to replace the stick?
I hope this helps someone. I go through analog sticks like crazy. my thumbs must just be destructive. lol. so I brought 5 pairs of the zedlabs sticks thinking they would work as replacements.. but I have that issue where the head of the analog stick hits the body of the controller, and feels 'gummy' when playing. My solution was to cut a small piece of a cotton wool bud, and stuff the inside of the analog stick fitting so that it was permanently more raised off the board. Now, the only contact with the controller body is the neck of the analog stick . works good.
why don't people 3d print a new case with the perfect angles in it?
yes this comment has nothing to do with the video
@@unmellowthegamer8946 Costs more than just cutting away at the gates of the Control stick
So where can I get some then? I am having a very hard time finding joystick and c stick replacements.
Can I swap out the C sticks on my Wii U Pro and GCC do the Pro has the yellow one and the GCC has the black one?
I want to make an AliExpress GCN controller feel like an official one
i didn't know where to ask something like this, but i'm interested in swapping out the gamecube d-pad for a broken wiimote's d-pad that i have. it fits in the shell, but the pad is too short on the bottom, so i want to try & create a "spacer" to make it fit. i have some thick foam board that i can cut, would that work?
I bought a wavebird once that had these replacement sticks in it. I wasn't very happy about the non-clicky feeling of the stick so I decided to file down the bottom edge of it. I kept doing it until every direction was clicky. Certainly no where near as good as the OEM sticks but better than the feeling before. It's too bad there isn't a vendor that makes sticks that are halfway decent.
Any names and links on the products in the video?