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Sweaty palms- always when turning the key for the first time after a cambelt job.
In we have aa 2009 2.0L VW EOS in for cambelt replacement. This one was (un)fortunately eventful. Our customer called us due to a squealing noise coming from the engine bay. We later found out that this job was more than just a cambelt replacement. I’m telling you now, this job DID NOT GO WELL!
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If you claim to be doing the job correctly why didn’t you change the cam seals and crank seals ? The owner of the car shouldn’t pay you either !
Why change the seals if they are not leaking ?
@@xl250mon5 obviously you are not a qualified mechanic otherwise you wouldn’t ask a stupid question like that! The vehicle is going to travel at least 100 thousand kilometres before the belt is changed again . Meaning the seals would have done at least 200 thousand ks. Secondly it is part of the maintenance bulletin as specified on all timing belt changes. Thirdly they come in the kit, timing belt, tensioner, bearings cam seals and crank seal as well as on all vw vehicles the replacement of water pump is recommended. What did you throw the seals the customer paid for or kept them? Have you heard of preventative maintenance? Have you even been to technical college?
@@stavyone you are obviously not a qualified Auto Engineer,in my 40 years qualified I have never come across a cam kit with crank and cam seals.Do you change the rear crank seal when you change a clutch? You are obviously one of these " master techs" that can only work on one make of vehicle .
@@stavyone oh and by the way I teach automotive engineering at a technical College, worked on truck engines that have covered over 500,000 miles and no leaking seals. Maybe you should go to college and learn how a hydro dynamic seal works. Or enrol on one of my courses. I await an educated reply.
@@xl250mon5 god help,us all if you are actually teaching students in tech ! I’ll make this simple on you Mr engineer . Does it stipulate clearly in every service bulletin of every vehicle fitted with a timing belt that it is recommended by the manufacturer cam seals and crank seal are to be replaced when fitting a timing belt kit? As a qualified mechanic should you have replaced the seals knowing that they will be dry brittle and weeping within the next 100 thousand kilometres as well as following the manufacturers recommendations ? Should be an easy one for you since you’re a tech teacher/engineer. The more you divert off the conversation of you stating you didn’t change the seals because they weren’t leaking the more stupid you sound!
Most main dealers have literal children working there with only 1 or two really good techs. When a young tech who took the college route and ended up at vw likely only works on brand new shiny cars. As soon as they get a decent job on an older car, their lack of experience truly shows
Hi guys bloody lucky to pull that one back from the brink of disaster but did I notice the timing cover went walkabout
Top work there a broken bolt is the ultimate nightmare scenario to us non professionals !
It’s the pits!
Cross threaded bolt
Kudos for sorting the previous cowboy's mess out! A lot of mobile mechanics won't continue a job that requires removing a snapped engine mount bolt. If I ever need a mechanic in the South, I'll call you guys 👍👍
Nice to see Kerby helping you out.
Ill quite often take a piece of cardboard then stab the bolts through it in the same pattern as they come off the part, no way of mixing them up that way, crazy job well done lads lots of people would have just thrown a stack of new parts at that good to see you working with kerbside too, scary tbh I once had a cat in with a cracked hub as someone gunned a too long bolt in it, that was kwick fit did that too.....
That engine mount is a mission to take out sometime done a few , and you were lucky to take out that bolt
Literally have to push the motor with one hand and put bracket down there with other hand 😅 not fun
Car maintenance has always been a place for cowboys to rip you off.Its so refreshing to see you guys doing the job as it should be done and taking pride in what you do.I work in the car parts industry and visit garages from main dealers to the one man operator...Really enjoy your videos..Respect that you finished the job
Very true mate. It’s honestly so easy to do it if you don’t have morals 😅.
Thank you for watching. Glad you enjoyed it
That socket trying to escape at 12:18 made me chuckle, I hope you found it :D
10/10 on this job, sorting out someone elses SH*T out here.
It has happened to me!
Official Chevrolet shop over tightened the transmission support bolts and my engine almost fell, 2 broken bolts and 1 bent, since then my car have not been to a shop ever since.
You was so lucky that engine mount bolt came out like that! I never get that lucky! 😭😭
owner did DIY and told you they got it down from VW. this timing belt was just done, it would not survive very long and would get shredded to bits. If it was just done, they would have been under warranty and get it sorted with the garage that installed it.
They called a mobile mechanic out because they know they fucked up and need someone pro to fix it.
No he didn’t… I’ve got proof for that 😁
Unlucky
It doesn’t matter if he asked for help !
Thing is tho, if the garage is shady, as it clearly was in this case. You wouldn't take your car back there. Just get it fixed elsewhere, and sue the shady garage. All the evidence is in this video.
Problem is , there’s so much cases going in U.K. , with dodgy mechanics , the ombudsman can’t catchup anymore, and they know that very well same as second hand car dealers, selling you shitty cars … you have to be vigilant nowadays, lawyers cost thousands to sue someone not even worth it …
U guys are awesome
Another job well done
Like ur humour always
Keep it going ❤
Bosch multipurpose drill bits. The blue striped ones. They drill through hard plate and even ball bearings. Try them. Screw fix sell them
Owner tried doing the belt, fucked up, panicked, then called out the people who they watched for the guides 😂
This is pretty common on these engines now (EA113). I have been to 4 and had 2 of my own with the same issue. A fellow mobile mechanic has had a few also. Single use stretch bolts that nobody ever changes
Have a night mare job myself with snapped studs all sorts really adds time to a 3-4 hr job.
Was that the mysterious 10mm socket going flying at 12:18 forever to be lost again 😂
Haha! Very common that!
definitely was an 11mm
@@nostromo332 😂
Brilliant job lads well done.
The strain on whoever s face when putting those bolts in must of been a sight lol . Owner is lucky he still has engine in one piece , very lucky .
Another good job done by you guys the cowboy who did it if first place could of done a lot of damage to that engine customer was very lucky.
Engine gone otherwise! Luckily customer was well aware of it!
Great work guys, I will subscribe to you too Kirby. If that were my car I'd give up and use it as a boat anchor.
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A great team effort & good job on this VW.
Glad you enjoyed it! 🙏🏾
I would have lost it with you guys, when you pretended there was rattling after starting it lol
Shame I don't live in London, as I would have had you guys out for a failed ABS wheel speed sensor change..
Very nice job. I was wondering about that socket that you dropped when doing your review the time was 12:18 on the video.
Top job, but you need some cobalt drills from heller, would go through that 10.8 like butter.
That's why you use left hand drill bits for snapped bolt removal. Would've come out hile drilling
Try using cutting past next time you drill into metal. You won't believe how much easier the drilling gets.
Noted!
Your the best and honest, trustworthy guys gbu both keep up the good work kabayan
How much do you charge ATF service on c class mercedes saloon 2013 plus serpentine belt change please
How much do you charge ATF service and serpentine belt change on c class mercedes saloon 2023 please
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Nice one lads! Just goes to prove independent garages generally offer lower prices for similar or even better services than dealerships. I only go to the dealer if I have to...
Absolutely
Great video! I wouldn't be wearing a metal bracelet though with my hands in someone's engine, I know what a 12 volt battery can do!
16:00 Whoever done that previous work is DANGEROUS & may cause someone's death due to their faulty work.
You should Name & Shame them and save someone's life.
I would be very surprised if vw did this , any one can get OE part's
Once you go Marv and Kirby you never go back. This customer is now a life long customer.
This is actually our second job for him now + he’s got his brother’s fleet to work with us too!
@@themarvelousvlog noice 👍
I have 2 out of 3 bolts in my Renault Clio engine mount. It had to be drilled through while cambelt replacement too 🙂
Guys Guys Guys, when working on your own car please use a Torqueqwrench (even a cheap one is better than nothing if you don't have muscle memory) Why? Because the engine could be cast alloy and the bolts a different grade and when the engine heats up it expands with the heat but the bolt does not expand as much thus snapping something
You did a really good job what a good team
Thank you!
2:19 Comic genius 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂 mix and matching bolts like crazy paving 😂😂😂
New bolts usually come with the timing belt kit .
2:19 hahahahhahahahahahha just hahahahha
How do you get it that wrong?? Madness
I reckon whoever did it moved the engine up or down with the bolts half out and bent them. Those mounts can be a right twat to get out on some models and some you have to take the bolts out with the mount.
On the EOS definitely shit to get out! Aircon pipe cucking through and through…
Sorry to say but the tensioner bolt is 13mm on this engine.
The upper roller is 13mm and the lower 12mm.
The bolts and nuts on them were correct 👍🏻
You did a good job there and helped the customer out 👌🏻
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Hi guys love your channel and have a question, what will be your next van when you up grade from the trouble some Citroen>
Cheers
Either a Sprinter or a Transit Wet Belt (👀)
@@themarvelousvlog cool
Great job guys
It's actually harder to fit these wrong than right 😂🙈 never seen anything like that
A Question, if bolts are over torqued, does it mean the new bolt will be loose or suffer in any way..???? Thks guys crazy, but great video..
Definitely suffer. Just remember, manufacturers have their torque limits as metal can yield at a certain point
The majority of major jobs have to be done by senior technicians or under supervisor close supervision
Good jobs guys , a relatively easy job turned into a nightmare by john Wayne 😂
John Wayne is the scariest mechanic out there!
Well done to all concerned in this project, but some shady work done before for sure......
I used to hear this on an Audi TFSI on first start just for a few seconds and it’ll stop.. I hear other VW do this why?
Left hand drill bit would have easied that broken bolt out as you drilled it
You need to do a van tour and show all of your tools I think we’d like that
This is in the pipeline… 😁
@@themarvelousvlog I don’t think you should. Some toe rag will break in knowing what tools you have.
Should have dead locks on it then Kerby did a van tour and all of the others
Tbh no matter what lock and measures you have in and on your van, if they want your tools, they WILL get it
You got luck with there 🙏What did you do to get round the broken bolt hole/lug?
To be honest, when I was trying to drill in to the bolt,‘I could see the bolt moving in (which means that the bolt was not fully bolted in). I then tried to use a flat head to slowly turn it out, and voila! It worked 😁
@@themarvelousvlog what about the broken lug on the block? Did you just washer and bolt and nut it together?
@Kashster222 that’s correct. The one with a broken lobe, we unfortunately had to leave it but owner will be taking it to a machinist to get it sorted!
Ah good, I've seen it happen on the 1.8t engine..there used to be a block you could but to bolt onto the block and then gave you a mounting hole back. Not sure if this can be done on this engine. Anyway cracking job and video as always 👏
Last person who worked on that arrived to the job on horseback
What a nightmare, and I wasn't even raining 😅😅😅
Skills. Learn & earn dudes 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Great job 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
This video needs showing to the VW dealership, and they should reimburse the customer in full.
Disgusting workmanship!
Don't think that was done by a VW dealer. Otherwise the owner would be back down there screaming at the service manager for it to be rectified under warranty. Something a bit 'fishy' going on there
It never went to a dealership, owners either DIY’d it, or a mate said I’ll do it for £50
Funny enough I’m looking at a Ford focus 2.0tdci , 62 plate , it’s going to need to have its belt changing ball park figure what do you charge
Cheers Phil
Garages can charge between £200(cowboy) to £700(ultimate rip-off) 😂
Unfortunately I can’t state how much I charge because I don’t want my pricing to be compared to other garages (sorry!)
Is Vauxhall Insignia 2009 Automatic Diesel has Timing Belt or Timing Chain?
If a 140,000 mile on the clock car does not come with any Service history book, how will you know if it needs Timing belt replacement
Diesels: 1.6cdti chains, 2.0 cdti belts.
What he said ^
Hi , Not definite so look on the main tensioner and water pump if it’s driven by the timing belt there may be a manufacturing date , ie 12 for 2012 etc .
@@davewalsh2883 if the timing belt snaps, then will all the piston head will be damaged and engine need replacing?
@@SSUKBD only if it’s an interference engine , and if it’s not it’s usually the valves that take the hit if it fails at low engine rpm .
Who else saw the socket drop around 12.20?
Kerby de Mechanique!!
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I've used a mobile mechanic and few times and he's a great guy. But, I tell you, if I called one out and three guys turned up, filming, laughing, joking and giving it the 'Oh, my days' then I wouldn't even let them start the job.
That fair enough!
the original job looked like the garbage my ex garage did, glad ya sorted it, hey, new hair do.....
How come u started it with no coolant in the bottle?
This is so that we know if the car starts after the timing belt has been fitted. If we were to fill up the coolant bottle and we later on find out that it doesn’t start, we just wasted coolant and time 😅
Just remember, it won’t hurt the engine if only started for a couple seconds
Love the vids guys
Thank you!
Does your gran know you've borrowed her glasses again? 😃
Bummer, i've posted the same before i spotted your post!
@@stevesweet2567 LOL. I think his gran also cuts his hair. Bowl heads went out of fashion in the 1980s.
We're gonna give the dude a complex then his mum won't let him play with us again.
Guys guys… let’s not be mean to my family okay?! I think the haircut and glasses are excellent! (I get paid by them to say this)!
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Hope the haircut adds to the entertainment 😂😂😂
I bet those smartarses with their shit comments are real mingers.
DIY supercharger sound?
That VW Banana bolt has a part number, but can only be sourced from VW Caribbean ….. or you’re local Euro Parts store, which will have plenty of “customer return” VW bolts packaged as new ….. hope you didn’t replace it with a straight one 😮😮🍌🍌
Can you do ATF service on mercedes please
my 2006 audi a3 has the same setup as this cambelt. i bought it at 80k and its now done 92 (so timing belt is due). however i inspected the belt and to me it looks in good condition (no fraying, still nice and thick and i can still see the white writing on the back) so im assuming its been done some time before i bought it?
one thing i did notice though is the pointy metal part on the tensioner pulley which is supposed to align with the part with the groove in when fitted is now a good centimeter to the left of that part. is this normal to happen over time? the belt still seems to have good tension.
Yes and no… Quite difficult to say because sometimes, depending on the stroke that you’re at, it will tension back in and out of place. As far as I’ve observed, it does go in and out of that little gap. Try turning it by hand. You should see it move in and out- of not, re-tension back in place
You need to change the wording on the front of this post as it suggests this mechanic is a cowboy when in fact he was instrumental in the repair
good job I just did this job but it took 3 weeks lol fuck i aint a chemanic
Just really interested How much you charged for this job?
Garage charge me £400 for the same thing
But one person did that in 3 hours
You're paying for the knowledge and experience of them being able to do it in 3 hours.
Sounds about right…
If a garage had done that, nevermind a bloody main dealer. I wouldn't want to go anywhere near it because once you touch it, someone else's problem becomes your problem and I'm rather allergic to those (I come out in rash, often a loss of hair and sleep. They're awful). But obviously it makes good content I suppose, but now I need to know what happened with the dealer. I guess they had to refund the job, at the very least....?
Plus was they're not a timing cover....?
Was the top cambelt cover missing? Or my poor eyesight
It was in the car. Owner had a peek at it and saw the belt was starting to shred
Why didnt he just get the vw dealer to rectify thier mistake?
your the best mechanic 😎
Far from it but thank you!!!
What area do you cover
The bolt is from Brighton 🤣
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14:08 lol
Great job
Thank you!
Im suprised them threads wasnt knackered
2 of them were unfortunately
Hi keep it up you are doing a great job and having fun making some brilliant videos superstar Ali Walsall west midlands england junction 10 m6 Walsall churckery up the walsall
Messing with engine mounts to change a cam belt, whatever next. Have we all forgotten how easy things used to be.
Chuck the old mount and get a used one.
Do you work across England
I wonder if an insurance claim could be made , should engine be FUBAR
That 12mm is right...
Could have been something as simple as a torque wrench being out of calibration or someone’S been using there new stubby air ratchet a bit to enthusiastically….
Weld a nut on the broken bolt
close call
5 year old kid could have done better than that botch job. That's the worst timing belt replacement I have ever seen. You guys saved that engine.
Its just not possible for VW to do this, bad and all as some of their dealerships are, I refuse to believe it