15:04 I'm like 99.99% that Ashiok and Vilis are a nonbo. Ashiok is a replacement effect so you never actually lose the life, so Vilis will not draw you any cards.
Another use of Agatha's Soul Cauldron is busted in Sisay, Weatherlight Captain. Any color can do sisay activations and it's tutorable with her because it's legendary. You sneeze in Sisay and this combos.
Agatha's Soul Cauldron is really good in a handful of decks, I think Kinnan might be the only deck it's good in that any of them play, but it's not the only deck in the format where the card is good. I've heard Najeela players get excited for it, someone else mentioned it as an option in Magda which I think I'll try, and I'm sure there are more.
Agatha's Cauldron has also made in in my Tayam deck. It makes the combo even harder to stop! Exiling the creature doesn't matter if you are going for a win.
Rowan actually makes hoardling broodlord even better, you can dump all of your mana into the black pips, if you reduce the hoardling by 5, grab saw in half, you can immediately cast the saw, then go off with the combo from there. Just realized that from watching the rowan section
Regarding the second chapter of The Huntsman's Redemption, it actually defeats Opp Agent -- by the time you make the choice, your opponent no longer has a chance to flash it in. So they can deny the tutor, but you won't sacrifice anything or let them search.
Took + Confectioner + Disciple. You don't need to shuffle your deck back in at all. The triggers from sacrificing all those artifacts go on top of the card you would draw. So, if you need to bleed more than you have cards in your library, you just never let the draws resolve.
Someone asked about the ratio of creatures in sets- I can't find it again but Wilds of Eldraine has 166 creatures in a 276 card set so 60% creatures. Overall, there are 14,020 playable creatures in EDH and 11,524 non-creatures meaning that the EDH pool is 54.9% creatures.
Note in the podcast: Sythis does NOT run Smothering Tithe most of the time. Most of your ramp in the deck is enchantments because of A) it draws you cards and B) so you barely step on your own toes when playing artifact hate. Sythis wants to play Collector Ouphe, Stony Silence and more to prevent opponents from using their own ramp and treasures, which makes treasures in the Sythis deck not worth it most of the time Edit: Return of the Wildspeaker is NOT a good card in Sythis. Some times you wanna search for creatures, but about 66% of the time you want to search for Enchantments, whether they're Stax pieces or win cons
While it isn't for this podcast specifically RIP Sheldon Menery, the godfather of EDH and the face of the Rules Committee who helped shape the game we know and love.
I know Legacy isn't your format of choice usually, but Beseech is cracked in that format. It gets to cast Gaea's Will (straight up Yawg Will) in a format where you get 4x LED and 4x Lotus Petal on top of your rituals, and then it finds you the Tendrils to win. It's an absurdly compact win con. A hand of 2x 0s that make 1, a single Ritual, and Beseech (assuming both 0s go to the graveyard) is a win. Its a good time to be a Storm gamer
Always nice to see Tyler make an appearance! When do we get to see Nate on one of these podcasts? Agatha's Soul Cauldron has so much combo potential. The favorite I've seen is with Grist, Hunger Tide because he's a creature in graveyard and exile.
Beseech the mirror will go to in my (high power) Nath deck. Gets cards like Contamination, Rankle, Pox and such. Also Rankle's Prank goes into it for obvious reasons. Btw, an overloaded Mind Rake is each player discards 2 for just 2 mana.
The Irencrag doesn't make the equipped creature lose all other abilities, the card itself loses all other abilities after it turns into the equipment EDIT: they caught it, i just like to be smarmy hehehe
Love to hear your podcasts while working... Thank you for the incredible work and effort you guys put into this! Waiting for the CEDH match with the new WOE commanders! Hope someone plays Rowan! Keep up
I’m a firm believer that Ashiok was designed because they’re going to give black access to exile (which they already should have). When I say “access to exile” I mean an actual playable card/s.
Adventure cards are interesting because they have instant/sorceries that can be found off of creature tutors, so decks with Green can include them to have interaction thats easier to find. And Yenna as a stax commander seems dope, and while the aura thing probably wont come up often i think this deck would prioritise the land aura ramp, and suddenly you have all of your lands tapping for like 6 mana.
K’rrik main here, I would never consider playing ashiok unless they printed a black card that said you can cast cards from exile and even then I’d have to think about it. Exactly what Tyler was saying, the risk of exiling a critical combo piece would just absolutely bug me out.
Reporting for Cam: working off of scryfall assumptions of vintage legal print cards, with 14031 creatures out of 25597 total card pool, you reach 54.83% of magic being creature cards
I want to just say how nuts Agatha's is in Raffine in particular. Since it is already distributing counters, it means you get so much use out of every activation. Raza, Masoleum Wanderer, Ranger Captain, Walking Ballista, the list goes on.
57:35 Just a few noteworthy cards first printed in original Eldraine that see play: Arcane Signet, Korvold, Kenrith the Returned King, Wishclaw Talisman, deafening Silence, Cauldron Familiar, Return of the Wildspeaker, Husbringer, Gingerbrute. Just a couple niche cards for the format.
Never have I been happier to be an otter😂😂 did a double take and laughed so hard at the beginning, love y’all Cam and Dylan, but Tyler has always been my favorite.
3:43 Just to clear it up for anyone curious. Yes, Peregrin Took is Pippin. Like with Sam and Merry, it's nickname. Sams full name is Samwise Gamgee and Merrys full name is Meriadoc Brandybuck. You can see why he goes by Merry. Frodo is just Frodo. He is special enough without a nickname .
Kellan is great for Minsc, Beloved Ranger and any deck that wins with Pattern of Rebirth. The turbo Minsc builds are already playing Open the Armory and this is another 6 mana win for the deck
i think you missed the mark with beseech the mirror, because you can also get and cast any card that you can't normally cast like the no mana suspend cards like living end, gaea's will, restore balance, ancestral vision, glimpse of tomorrow, inevitable betrayal, etc.
Something to note about Agatha's Soul Cauldron, because it says "When a creature card is exiled this way, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature", the ability has to resolve before you declare targets for it, as it is a reflexive trigger, and not part of the main effect. This means you can dodge removal and give your opponents no window to gain prio before the ability of the exiled creature is already on yours.
11:28, well now we know why Dylan's custom commander was so broken. I honestly would love a commander viable Hymn, but Hymn is also the type of card that I really think shouldn't be power crept. There's a lot of potential for it just being too powerful (two mana six-for-one) that I'm unsure if it is something Wizards is going to attempt.
I can see Agatha's Soul Cauldron being an auto include in both Najeela and Winota. Not only can you use it to Ranger Captain in response to someone else's Ranger Captain, but as long as a Ranger Captain is exiled with it, you can re-use Ranger Captain's Active every untap step as long as you have an expendable creature. Also works with Cathar Commando and other actives.
I dont think it's really going to make Kellan astounding in CEDH but something that does allow a deck idea to form is that any way to generate infinite mana allows kellan to win. Kellan searches Mortapod or Mask of Immolation - Both read EQUIP 2 - Sacrifice equipped creature deal 1 damage. With infinite mana you can cast kellans adventure, find his win and play it all out eating kellan to deal one each time. As I mentioned, likely not good enough but it was something that wasnt touched on, could be nice in a boros shell of some sorts.
I picked up a few cards from the set and some are honestly unassumingly powerful. Bramble Familiar is really good in mid power decks. Mana dork when you need it or powerful dig and cheat into play effect when you have the mana for it. Woodland Acolyte while no Noxious Revival works decently well as a toolbox card that replaces itself when etb's so possibly repeatable in the right deck. Tempest hart for early looting in less cEDH builds of Tasigur with a decent body on the creature that also grows when you cast Tasigur himself. While cEDH may have only gotten 2-3 cards that will actually see play consistently there is a lot of potential for upgrades to preexisting decks. I'm loving this set in it's diversity and potential. Doesn't feel broken without also feeling underwhelming and it's a nice change of pace compared to what we have been given more recently.
Cool vid! Cauldron is defo something I’m looking at for a few decks. One of the cards that was not covered is Ellivere of the Wild Court- her card draw and raw power she puts on board can be quite viable, and I can’t wait to see what she does in the future!!
Ashiok + Necropotence. Pay 30 life see 60 cards Edit: I'm an idiot and also can't read. You need something that says. "You may cast cards from exile this turn." Or food chain (the card) stuff.
The main reason for Talion specifying 1-10 as opposed to just any number is just to prevent people from doing silly things, like choosing a number that's hard to track because it's so large, or choosing a number with a hidden meaning (by like converting to words from hexadecimal or binary). If you let players choose any number, then it just adds potential headaches for basically no value because why would you ever choose a big number? The exact threshold is dependent on the design, style, and theme (like if this was an innistrad card itd probably go up to 13), but they do have to limit it to a reasonable range to prevent anything tricky
I just wanted to mention something about Yenna that I think was missed. In combination with Instill Energy or Natures Chosen? And a dork that taps for 2 or more, you can use her ability to copy the aura and uptap them, netting infinate mana. Not sure if its good enough but its the first combo that came to mind.
I wonder how many people will try to use Agatha Cauldron to exile their commander and give a commander ability to any creature with a counter on them. Also just for the hell of it I'm definitely throwing Walking Ballista in a Hydra deck just so all my hydras can ping everything all the time.
When I first saw Flick a Coin my mind went to Ob Nixilis, since in Ob it's basically a 2 mana draw 2 and give Ob a +1/+1 counter which I think can be pretty good. For Rowan I think a lot of the value can come from that the X in her ability is decided upon resolution, so you can activate the ability then ad naus/necropotence while it is on the stack to lose a bunch of life then (hopefully) you'd have or found a big X spell like Torment of Hailfire to win the game. Also if you paid/lost 35 life and put it into exsanguinate you then gain back 105 life, so although you may not win it's also very hard for you to lose from that point.
Agatha is something that has come up as solidly ok in Kenrith since it reduces his +1/+1 ability to 1 green to make her bigger and reduce the rest by more. I have no idea if it will be relevant in comparison to something like Biomancer's Familiar just reducing them by 2 for 2 and Agatha doing the same for 3 in specifically Kenrith. Obviously there's way more upside but the downside is relevant.
The best part of Irencrag is that you deliver the indignity of hitting someone with an equipped creature without dedicating a slot to running actual equipment.
Play Ashiok, Wicked Manipulator. Play Blood Celebrant. Cast Thoracle, and while she's on the stack you can keep paying life & creating black mana with blood celebrant's ability to keep using blood celebrant's ability to exile your library with ashiok. ashiok & thoracle can be combined in the same way with spatial binding, mischievous poltergeist, necropotence, wall of blood, carrion howler, and others that cost too much mana.
Flick a coin has been one of the most debated on cards on the krark discord in quite a while. Most people tend to agree that if it was 2 mana for all those effects it'd be an auto-include, but on 3 mana it's a tad too much. 3 mana spells have a really high bar, and tyler was really right on this one imo. As for Dylan's comment of 4 krarks, as I like saying, at that point you can win by casting a potato. Any time someone brings up "but if you can recast it 5 times", then it's just not good enough.
agatha seems like a combo engine in a couple ways. Pili-pala, for instance, goes infinite with anything that can tap it for free. For instance, cards like aura of dominion, careful cultivation, karametra's favor, cryptolith rite, heavy arbalest, paradise mantle etc. I don't think this is good enough for cedh, but it's still interesting.
TBH I love running weird pet cards and I play Niv-Mizzet, Parun. I think I am going to try viper in place of snap since I really like bouncing Dockside and find myself doing it at sorcery speed anyways. It also helps with the life totals when you are comboing with curiosity. That being said I also run weird stuff like ghostly pilferer cause that card is low key sick in a game where people cast the card their deck is built around not from their hand and everyone wanting to be underworld breaching. So what do I know? Lol. Love the podcasts and the moustaches on the channel :)
I'm cant wait for a pox deck that can also use cards like Tasha's Hideous Laughter. This card exiles 20-30 cards from each opponent. We all know how bad it feels to d.consult yourself when you are FORCED to look for an answer to stop a win. And the answer is Hella deep in your deck. Maybe like a lord Zander proactive "you can't play 35% - 65% of your deck because I screwed you list"
Played a game last weekend with Talion in the 98 of Ukkima/Cazur. Drew me a bunch of cards (on 2) and actually allowed Cazur to be a relative threat in the deck too
Another nice thing about Realm-Scorcher over Skarrigan is that if you bargain with it, you can AT LEAST get two pings in, more than making up for the additional Mana Value on the card.
First of all, Dylan, love your shirt. Slipknot Rullz. Second, as one of the few Edric players in the world, I can say that Edric does not want the Otter in the deck. xD
40:20 I was thinking 50% would be pretty close, but I looked it up and surprisingly this set actually is 59% creatures. This is counting adventure cards as creatures so that may be skewing things a bit
I love beseech the mirror in prosper decks. You’ll always have little treasures to bargain with and you get a treasure back when you cast it from exile! Plus you can just go get doomsday and cast it right away if you want
I'm mainly thinking of Agatha inside of Kenrith because you can pump her up with Kenrith, which makes everything cheaper until all his abilities are 1 cmc.
Feather is very much still a deck where it's instants costing more than 1 mana hurts. They said it very well in the podcast. The words are all there, but at 3 mana I just can't see it.
Another thing even beyond the mana cost is what they were saying about Storm-Kiln effects. Having the Treasure be on the cantrip instead of a payoff doesn't work as well. I tried out the 2 mana trick that gives first strike and a treasure when that first came out, and it just wasn't a card worth playing.
I love when the my three dads are all together
Idk about you but Tyler and Dylan are dads. Cam is like a brother…
Did a legit spit take when Tyler mentioned liking otters. Great timing on that.
Always love when Tyler makes an appearance
So true! He’s the reason so many of us want to play a kinnan deck!!!
Love Tyler, love seeing him on the show, he's cool.
15:04 I'm like 99.99% that Ashiok and Vilis are a nonbo. Ashiok is a replacement effect so you never actually lose the life, so Vilis will not draw you any cards.
Yeah I'm surprised they didn't bring up Bolas Citadel
Another use of Agatha's Soul Cauldron is busted in Sisay, Weatherlight Captain. Any color can do sisay activations and it's tutorable with her because it's legendary. You sneeze in Sisay and this combos.
Very relevant that it also makes her bigger too! I'd be very surprised if there was not a chain using this card to win...
Agatha's Soul Cauldron is really good in a handful of decks, I think Kinnan might be the only deck it's good in that any of them play, but it's not the only deck in the format where the card is good. I've heard Najeela players get excited for it, someone else mentioned it as an option in Magda which I think I'll try, and I'm sure there are more.
@@nerfmeharderI do not believe it makes sisay bigger because sisay says “for each color” among other permanents you control.
@@RitzyJ it adds +1/+1 counters to her mate
@@nerfmeharder ah yes I agree I thought you meant based on identity lol
Agathas soul cauldron to make your dwarfs manadorks is SO busted on magda, also protects you from orcish bowmasters.
Agatha's Cauldron has also made in in my Tayam deck. It makes the combo even harder to stop! Exiling the creature doesn't matter if you are going for a win.
😂 comfortably adrift in my tepid thirties. Love it!
I think that resonated with many of us lol
True
New tshirt merch idea
Rowan actually makes hoardling broodlord even better, you can dump all of your mana into the black pips, if you reduce the hoardling by 5, grab saw in half, you can immediately cast the saw, then go off with the combo from there. Just realized that from watching the rowan section
Rest in peace Sheldon, we wouldn't be enjoying this format without him
Regarding the second chapter of The Huntsman's Redemption, it actually defeats Opp Agent -- by the time you make the choice, your opponent no longer has a chance to flash it in. So they can deny the tutor, but you won't sacrifice anything or let them search.
Took + Confectioner + Disciple.
You don't need to shuffle your deck back in at all. The triggers from sacrificing all those artifacts go on top of the card you would draw. So, if you need to bleed more than you have cards in your library, you just never let the draws resolve.
It’s ok. I agree that otters are adorable. 😂 And the adventure is solid for Magus Lucea Kane.
1:07 Still Super happy to see Cam still wearing the Gay to Win shirt :)
Someone asked about the ratio of creatures in sets- I can't find it again but Wilds of Eldraine has 166 creatures in a 276 card set so 60% creatures. Overall, there are 14,020 playable creatures in EDH and 11,524 non-creatures meaning that the EDH pool is 54.9% creatures.
Note in the podcast: Sythis does NOT run Smothering Tithe most of the time. Most of your ramp in the deck is enchantments because of A) it draws you cards and B) so you barely step on your own toes when playing artifact hate. Sythis wants to play Collector Ouphe, Stony Silence and more to prevent opponents from using their own ramp and treasures, which makes treasures in the Sythis deck not worth it most of the time
Edit: Return of the Wildspeaker is NOT a good card in Sythis. Some times you wanna search for creatures, but about 66% of the time you want to search for Enchantments, whether they're Stax pieces or win cons
While it isn't for this podcast specifically
RIP Sheldon Menery, the godfather of EDH and the face of the Rules Committee who helped shape the game we know and love.
I know Legacy isn't your format of choice usually, but Beseech is cracked in that format. It gets to cast Gaea's Will (straight up Yawg Will) in a format where you get 4x LED and 4x Lotus Petal on top of your rituals, and then it finds you the Tendrils to win.
It's an absurdly compact win con. A hand of 2x 0s that make 1, a single Ritual, and Beseech (assuming both 0s go to the graveyard) is a win. Its a good time to be a Storm gamer
Always nice to see Tyler make an appearance! When do we get to see Nate on one of these podcasts?
Agatha's Soul Cauldron has so much combo potential. The favorite I've seen is with Grist, Hunger Tide because he's a creature in graveyard and exile.
Beseech the mirror will go to in my (high power) Nath deck. Gets cards like Contamination, Rankle, Pox and such. Also Rankle's Prank goes into it for obvious reasons. Btw, an overloaded Mind Rake is each player discards 2 for just 2 mana.
I was theory crafting Rowan with ad naus, not as a win condition but as a way to buff up Rowan's cost reduction
The Irencrag doesn't make the equipped creature lose all other abilities, the card itself loses all other abilities after it turns into the equipment EDIT: they caught it, i just like to be smarmy hehehe
The nice part is that it's a may ability
@@protoman0027 yeah totally, seems like a flexible rock/equipment for a more casual Ardenn list
One nice thing about Talion is that it stops dockside loops for infinite mana until they deal with it because they will die to life loss.
Only ones that cast dockside. So it won't stop Emiel loops or similar but it will stop sabertooth loops
Love to hear your podcasts while working... Thank you for the incredible work and effort you guys put into this! Waiting for the CEDH match with the new WOE commanders! Hope someone plays Rowan!
Keep up
I’m a firm believer that Ashiok was designed because they’re going to give black access to exile (which they already should have). When I say “access to exile” I mean an actual playable card/s.
Imagine a commander that made consulting your deck the way you tutor for thassas as well as the payoff.
❤ Tyler, if there are 19 cards that see proper play i'll be shocked
I've been really excited about this podcast specifically and thank GOD I got the notification on my lunch break
Adventure cards are interesting because they have instant/sorceries that can be found off of creature tutors, so decks with Green can include them to have interaction thats easier to find.
And Yenna as a stax commander seems dope, and while the aura thing probably wont come up often i think this deck would prioritise the land aura ramp, and suddenly you have all of your lands tapping for like 6 mana.
K’rrik main here, I would never consider playing ashiok unless they printed a black card that said you can cast cards from exile and even then I’d have to think about it. Exactly what Tyler was saying, the risk of exiling a critical combo piece would just absolutely bug me out.
tylers otter joke, and the response it got, fucking killed me
Reporting for Cam: working off of scryfall assumptions of vintage legal print cards, with 14031 creatures out of 25597 total card pool, you reach 54.83% of magic being creature cards
3:30 You only need a way to make an extra token since Peregrin would get you additional Food with each token.
I want to just say how nuts Agatha's is in Raffine in particular. Since it is already distributing counters, it means you get so much use out of every activation. Raza, Masoleum Wanderer, Ranger Captain, Walking Ballista, the list goes on.
57:35 Just a few noteworthy cards first printed in original Eldraine that see play: Arcane Signet, Korvold, Kenrith the Returned King, Wishclaw Talisman, deafening Silence, Cauldron Familiar, Return of the Wildspeaker, Husbringer, Gingerbrute. Just a couple niche cards for the format.
Would Flick a Coin be more worth it if it did 2 damage instead of just 1? I keep debating putting it in my Gisela deck.
Never have I been happier to be an otter😂😂 did a double take and laughed so hard at the beginning, love y’all Cam and Dylan, but Tyler has always been my favorite.
3:43 Just to clear it up for anyone curious. Yes, Peregrin Took is Pippin. Like with Sam and Merry, it's nickname. Sams full name is Samwise Gamgee and Merrys full name is Meriadoc Brandybuck. You can see why he goes by Merry. Frodo is just Frodo. He is special enough without a nickname .
As a fan of otters. I very much enjoyed the banter and was laughing so hard. 😂 thank yall so much for the amazing content ya make.
Kellan is great for Minsc, Beloved Ranger and any deck that wins with Pattern of Rebirth. The turbo Minsc builds are already playing Open the Armory and this is another 6 mana win for the deck
i think you missed the mark with beseech the mirror, because you can also get and cast any card that you can't normally cast like the no mana suspend cards like living end, gaea's will, restore balance, ancestral vision, glimpse of tomorrow, inevitable betrayal, etc.
of the 281 cards in WOE, 166 are creatures. so actually, gunning for 50% was underselling the cut.
"Play the goddamn otter" was the best moment of the show lol. Also I love the episodes with Tyler, all 3 of you together is peak play to win.
Please, please, please give us a short of "play the otter" I need it for a ring tone.
Learned a lot about Tyler today and i am only a few minutes in. 😅
It's actually more than 50% creatures! In WOE it was nearly 60%
pippin and merry are the nicknames given to them by friends/family . Same thing with sam
Something to note about Agatha's Soul Cauldron, because it says "When a creature card is exiled this way, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature", the ability has to resolve before you declare targets for it, as it is a reflexive trigger, and not part of the main effect. This means you can dodge removal and give your opponents no window to gain prio before the ability of the exiled creature is already on yours.
“Welcome to Play the Otter, where we play the Otter.”
11:28, well now we know why Dylan's custom commander was so broken.
I honestly would love a commander viable Hymn, but Hymn is also the type of card that I really think shouldn't be power crept. There's a lot of potential for it just being too powerful (two mana six-for-one) that I'm unsure if it is something Wizards is going to attempt.
Wow Tyler really giving us the Gay to Win experience with that otter comment 😏
Best one yet! "PLAY THE OTTER!!!"
27:15 solemn simulacrum brother. Not a CEDH card sadly.
PLAY THE OTTER!!! Words to live by
Something nuts about Soul Cauldron, you can exile your own creatures. Basically, this is a reanimation effect for things like Razketh.
I can see Agatha's Soul Cauldron being an auto include in both Najeela and Winota. Not only can you use it to Ranger Captain in response to someone else's Ranger Captain, but as long as a Ranger Captain is exiled with it, you can re-use Ranger Captain's Active every untap step as long as you have an expendable creature. Also works with Cathar Commando and other actives.
You guys get a like and a comment just from Tyler's intro alone
I dont think it's really going to make Kellan astounding in CEDH but something that does allow a deck idea to form is that any way to generate infinite mana allows kellan to win.
Kellan searches Mortapod or Mask of Immolation - Both read EQUIP 2 - Sacrifice equipped creature deal 1 damage.
With infinite mana you can cast kellans adventure, find his win and play it all out eating kellan to deal one each time.
As I mentioned, likely not good enough but it was something that wasnt touched on, could be nice in a boros shell of some sorts.
I picked up a few cards from the set and some are honestly unassumingly powerful. Bramble Familiar is really good in mid power decks. Mana dork when you need it or powerful dig and cheat into play effect when you have the mana for it. Woodland Acolyte while no Noxious Revival works decently well as a toolbox card that replaces itself when etb's so possibly repeatable in the right deck. Tempest hart for early looting in less cEDH builds of Tasigur with a decent body on the creature that also grows when you cast Tasigur himself. While cEDH may have only gotten 2-3 cards that will actually see play consistently there is a lot of potential for upgrades to preexisting decks. I'm loving this set in it's diversity and potential. Doesn't feel broken without also feeling underwhelming and it's a nice change of pace compared to what we have been given more recently.
Feel like I need to play the otter for some reason 😂
Great intro Tyler! 😉
Also.. I agree. Agatha SHOULD cauldron.
I have Rankle’s Prank in Tergrid. Very good card (in casual).
Cool vid! Cauldron is defo something I’m looking at for a few decks. One of the cards that was not covered is Ellivere of the Wild Court- her card draw and raw power she puts on board can be quite viable, and I can’t wait to see what she does in the future!!
Agatha's Soul Cauldron is nuts in Animar too.
Play the Otter is gonna be something yall say like how Professor says Secret Lair alert. 😅
Hey Dylan, K'rrik player here. Ashiok omega level sucks in this deck. 😅
Ashiok + Necropotence. Pay 30 life see 60 cards
Edit: I'm an idiot and also can't read. You need something that says. "You may cast cards from exile this turn." Or food chain (the card) stuff.
The soul cauldron is low key busted 😅
“Play the otter” lol
Ashiok also let's you exile your deck with necro... Maybe as a strange and bad thoracle combo.
The main reason for Talion specifying 1-10 as opposed to just any number is just to prevent people from doing silly things, like choosing a number that's hard to track because it's so large, or choosing a number with a hidden meaning (by like converting to words from hexadecimal or binary). If you let players choose any number, then it just adds potential headaches for basically no value because why would you ever choose a big number? The exact threshold is dependent on the design, style, and theme (like if this was an innistrad card itd probably go up to 13), but they do have to limit it to a reasonable range to prevent anything tricky
I’m definitely playing the otter! I’m the sicko who loves 1 mana prowess creatures
Yo. I love Tyler man. Id like to see him more in podcast episodes. We accept him!
I just wanted to mention something about Yenna that I think was missed. In combination with Instill Energy or Natures Chosen? And a dork that taps for 2 or more, you can use her ability to copy the aura and uptap them, netting infinate mana.
Not sure if its good enough but its the first combo that came to mind.
I wonder how many people will try to use Agatha Cauldron to exile their commander and give a commander ability to any creature with a counter on them. Also just for the hell of it I'm definitely throwing Walking Ballista in a Hydra deck just so all my hydras can ping everything all the time.
That's awesome hydras that can shoot you with their heads lol
Dillon mentioned looking for a cedh each opponent discards 2 cards: Tasigur's Cruelty - potentially 1 mana each opponent discards 2 cards
Elusive otter may be a good one to include un Animar. It's a pitty that nowadays you don't see him in cedh...
Au contraire. Animar won the cEDH 5k in Baltimore earlier this year.
When I first saw Flick a Coin my mind went to Ob Nixilis, since in Ob it's basically a 2 mana draw 2 and give Ob a +1/+1 counter which I think can be pretty good. For Rowan I think a lot of the value can come from that the X in her ability is decided upon resolution, so you can activate the ability then ad naus/necropotence while it is on the stack to lose a bunch of life then (hopefully) you'd have or found a big X spell like Torment of Hailfire to win the game. Also if you paid/lost 35 life and put it into exsanguinate you then gain back 105 life, so although you may not win it's also very hard for you to lose from that point.
Soul Cauldron is the best card in several years. We gonna see it in almost every cEDH deck by end of year.
"Play the goddamn otter Cameron." Thank you Tyler
Agatha is something that has come up as solidly ok in Kenrith since it reduces his +1/+1 ability to 1 green to make her bigger and reduce the rest by more. I have no idea if it will be relevant in comparison to something like Biomancer's Familiar just reducing them by 2 for 2 and Agatha doing the same for 3 in specifically Kenrith. Obviously there's way more upside but the downside is relevant.
The best part of Irencrag is that you deliver the indignity of hitting someone with an equipped creature without dedicating a slot to running actual equipment.
Play Ashiok, Wicked Manipulator. Play Blood Celebrant. Cast Thoracle, and while she's on the stack you can keep paying life & creating black mana with blood celebrant's ability to keep using blood celebrant's ability to exile your library with ashiok.
ashiok & thoracle can be combined in the same way with spatial binding, mischievous poltergeist, necropotence, wall of blood, carrion howler, and others that cost too much mana.
Flick a coin has been one of the most debated on cards on the krark discord in quite a while. Most people tend to agree that if it was 2 mana for all those effects it'd be an auto-include, but on 3 mana it's a tad too much. 3 mana spells have a really high bar, and tyler was really right on this one imo.
As for Dylan's comment of 4 krarks, as I like saying, at that point you can win by casting a potato. Any time someone brings up "but if you can recast it 5 times", then it's just not good enough.
Every new set that comes out, I cannot wait to see the set review videos!
I think they want us to play the otter
FINALLY. We're talking about Talion
agatha seems like a combo engine in a couple ways. Pili-pala, for instance, goes infinite with anything that can tap it for free. For instance, cards like aura of dominion, careful cultivation, karametra's favor, cryptolith rite, heavy arbalest, paradise mantle etc. I don't think this is good enough for cedh, but it's still interesting.
Please turn the Otters moment into a short.
TBH I love running weird pet cards and I play Niv-Mizzet, Parun. I think I am going to try viper in place of snap since I really like bouncing Dockside and find myself doing it at sorcery speed anyways. It also helps with the life totals when you are comboing with curiosity. That being said I also run weird stuff like ghostly pilferer cause that card is low key sick in a game where people cast the card their deck is built around not from their hand and everyone wanting to be underworld breaching. So what do I know? Lol. Love the podcasts and the moustaches on the channel :)
I'm cant wait for a pox deck that can also use cards like Tasha's Hideous Laughter. This card exiles 20-30 cards from each opponent. We all know how bad it feels to d.consult yourself when you are FORCED to look for an answer to stop a win. And the answer is Hella deep in your deck. Maybe like a lord Zander proactive "you can't play 35% - 65% of your deck because I screwed you list"
Yay Tyler is back!
He gets his soul Tormented by you 2
I wonder if Ashiok + Necropotence is playable or just too risky. Exile half your deck, draw half your deck.
Played a game last weekend with Talion in the 98 of Ukkima/Cazur. Drew me a bunch of cards (on 2) and actually allowed Cazur to be a relative threat in the deck too
Another nice thing about Realm-Scorcher over Skarrigan is that if you bargain with it, you can AT LEAST get two pings in, more than making up for the additional Mana Value on the card.
First of all, Dylan, love your shirt. Slipknot Rullz. Second, as one of the few Edric players in the world, I can say that Edric does not want the Otter in the deck. xD
40:20 I was thinking 50% would be pretty close, but I looked it up and surprisingly this set actually is 59% creatures. This is counting adventure cards as creatures so that may be skewing things a bit
Wow damn we were way off
I like how every time we go to eldrain we get a playable black tutor (wishclaw talisman was OG eldrain)
I love beseech the mirror in prosper decks. You’ll always have little treasures to bargain with and you get a treasure back when you cast it from exile! Plus you can just go get doomsday and cast it right away if you want
I'm mainly thinking of Agatha inside of Kenrith because you can pump her up with Kenrith, which makes everything cheaper until all his abilities are 1 cmc.
Me and the 11 other Nath players are really excited for beseech. Sac a token, get rankle braids, etc.
Flick a Coin should also be discussed in decks like Feather - targeting feather at end of turn, assuming Feather is not threatened to be destroyed.
Feather is very much still a deck where it's instants costing more than 1 mana hurts. They said it very well in the podcast. The words are all there, but at 3 mana I just can't see it.
@@donovancombs2622 I agree - three mana is a bit steep.
Another thing even beyond the mana cost is what they were saying about Storm-Kiln effects. Having the Treasure be on the cantrip instead of a payoff doesn't work as well. I tried out the 2 mana trick that gives first strike and a treasure when that first came out, and it just wasn't a card worth playing.