Will We Be Kicked Out Of Turkey? - New rules
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ส.ค. 2024
- At this point they are changing the rules for residence in Turkey every few weeks. And what we feared happened. We do not meet the requirements anymore. Will we get deported? It's a scary journey. Come along!
Many people will not believe my story. Please check for yourself before you ask me all sorts of questions. I'm not in the mood right now, sorry. Some friendly helpful people post the changes as soon as they hear from the official announcements. This was the latest.
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1- Only homeowners will receive a 2-year residence permit.
Spouses whose names are not on the title deed will receive a 6-month residence permit and will make an income commitment and enter money into their accounts in Turkish lira, one and a half times the monthly minimum wage. (26000 Liras for now)
2- Foreigners who rent a house will also have to extend their residence permit for 6 months and make an income commitment and receive money into their Turkish lira accounts at one and a half times the monthly minimum wage. New applications have been closed for foreigners renting.
3- Retired foreigners will also receive a 6-month residence permit and will make an income commitment and enter money into their Turkish lira accounts at one and a half times the monthly minimum wage.
4- This application does not affect those who are married to a Turkish citizen; there is no change in the application for family residences.
5-This application does not affect homeowners, there is no change for them in the application. They will receive a 2-year residence permit. They are not responsible for depositing money into the bank account.
6- If your name is listed on the title deed jointly with a friend or sibling, you cannot obtain homeownership residence. You will receive a tourist residence permit for 6 months and you will need to make an income commitment and enter money into Turkish lira accounts one and a half times the monthly minimum wage.
7- If there is more than one name on the title deed, only the husband, wife, parents and their children can obtain homeowner's residence (This application is only carried out by the Fethiye Immigration Administration).
8-Your title deed purchase date and its value on the date of purchase are very important. Application will be made according to the limits of the period you purchased. Having a title deed does not directly give you the right to obtain a residence permit.
9- New application is still closed for tourism purposes, except for retirees. Retirees must bring their income from their country, apostilled, and this income must be one and a half times the minimum wage.
#ikamet #residencepermit #turkey
Surely the lovely people of Turkey will help! This is all so dreadful.
Most Turkish people would be disgusted if they new. But they don't and why would they. If you don't have do deal with this you don't know.
Heartbreaking, indeed! You have been such a valuable guide, spokesperson, and inspiration for us Türkiyephiles. I would hope the officials will take this into account. Birthday in a country does not make for an upstanding citizen; you have displayed true respect for beautiful Türkiye. I hope your wishes work out in your favor ❤
Thank you so much! I hope they change it back to how it was. Because it's not just about me. I have heard of people that had to leave after being here many years. So sad.
Good vx❤5@@AtHomeInTurkey
Maybe you should go to your home country and complain, long as you have double standards about Turk's. Your racist country is why you're in this predicament.
I am so sorry to hear about this. My wife and I have cherished exploring various places in our country through your videos. You are not just a tourist; you are much more than that to us.
Thank you and let's hope we find a way. But it's not just me. Many people have the same problem It's wrong.
@@AtHomeInTurkey Please update us.
@@AtHomeInTurkey Yes, we are not free to be with the person we truly love. They make it so difficult and so expensive. My experience has taught me that we are not as free as we think we are.
Hello im really sorry to hear about the issues you're facing at present I hope you find a solution soon, but I thought a spouse and any dependants under 18 automatically are entitled to residency on basis of property owned. I know the value must be around 200 thousand United states dollars . Also after residing in the country continuously , I think for at least 5 years you automatically are entitled to citizenship? That was my understanding, am I wrong ?
I personally want to live in Italy but I am not allowed, why Europeans should have right stay in Turkey..These days it is also not possible to get visa appointment and we would let them to stay in Turkey..???
It is very sad that people are treated this way. Borders are artificial prisons drawn by human hands, but remember that Turkey did not create these borders and these "rules". "Western civilisation" invented these rules so that "poor people" would not come to Europe and disturb the rich and colonialist Europeans. Now Turkey is applying the same rules to Europeans. In the last 100 years, Europe has applied the same rules to Turkish citizens in the most brutal way. I hope our young friends can now understand that the 'civilisation' we have created is not humane and that a civilisation based on imprisoning people is doomed to collapse in the end.
And collapse it will. Sadly it will get worse before it can get better.
'Most brutal way' ? Think again. I live in Berlin. More than 200,000 Turks living here. Just in one city. They all came in the last 50 years. Germany is open for EVERYONE right now.
I know. That'll change soon.
@@user-fz4yk1or5b
Please read about Ernst Reuther the legendary Gouvernor of Berlin.
So you can understand the backround of the Story.
And Germany is not open for everyone.
@@alisoysullu3972 Thank you. Yes, I know that Ernst Reuter has worked in Turkey and can also speak Turkish. What exactly do you mean by that? I don't think that explains that there are about 3 million Turks living in Germany, and many in the Netherlands as well. Many tens of thousands more still arrive every year.
@@user-fz4yk1or5b, most migrants contribute to their new country if the new country’s law allows it.
So sorry for you. I'm in the same boat, pretty much. My days in Turkiye are numbered. So probably this winter I'll be moving back to the States, after 16 years in Asia. I hope you'll find a way through all these rule changes.
I'm so sorry to hear this. Let's face it, the US is not doing very well either. I am so happy I did not stay there. Find yourself a rural spot and hopefully you can live without the daily madness that we see on the news. Sadly it's not going to get better soon.
love how turky is called both asia and europe
Take a trip over here to bangkok /thailand..instead..cheaper safer and higher quality of life
@@gmm5550 I've been to Thailand many times, plus I lived in Phuket for 2 years, China for 10, Turkey for 4. I really got tired of Thai Immigration. I like the people in Turkey. Asia is a vast continent stretching from Turkey in the west to the far eastern countries. and has a huge variety of cultures. I've found Turkey to be far cheaper than Thailand. I've been perfectly safe in China and Turkey.
Hi Ellis, you are our neighbour in Çandır. I met you once personaly. but I have been following you up here for long time. You are doing great job for Turkey and our small vilage with your videos. I believe you are going to solve this problem for sure.
Lets hope so. Thanks!
Will be praying for successful outcome @@AtHomeInTurkey
The arrangement between Turkiye and the EU should be reciprocal. Whatever arrangements there is in the EU for Turkish citizen, it should be the same for the EU citizens in Turkiye with exemptions where there is merit.
the problem is not EU citizens , the problem are refugees in turkey .... they will be OK
Ellis, I hope a local immigration official would reconsider your case, as you have lived in Turkiye for a while and are committed to, respect and promote the natural beauty of Turkiye. Ken and you are respectful to the local laws and people and are a good citizens in Turkiye. Good Luck!
Fingers crossed.
Turkey is moving away from the EU nations, the European Union hasn't been a honest friend of Turkey, for decades Turkey has requested to be a EU member and was constantly denied. Now Turkey will join BRICS, many more rule changers to come. European Union nations will become more isolated from the rest of the World.
you are a super sweet person and I wish you the best. don't forget what happens to you doesn't just happen in Turkey. As a Dutch citizen, I was forced to move from the Netherlands because my life and that of my family was destroyed by the tax authorities. the world is in chaos and it is precisely the Western countries that make life difficult for innocent people (minorities) in an inhuman and unfair way. I moved to the Netherlands (your country) with my parents 51 years ago as a 6-year-old girl. my parents had to do the hardest work, the guest workers helped improve the economy. I grew up and studied in the Netherlands. I speak the Dutch language better than the average Dutch person and I have paid more taxes than the average Dutch person. I had my own business for more than 20 years and I employed more than 30 people who maintained a household with their salaries. I slowly noticed that it was becoming increasingly difficult for me to do business and live on every level. the reason was only rolled out after 10 years. sooo sneaky! the government and the tax authorities had labeled all foreign people who used childcare as FRAUD and unfairly blacklisted us everywhere. I lost everything because of the childcare scandal. 2 houses 3 businesses EVERYTHING. I was put on the street with my child as a homeless person. With great apologies we have been promised to make everything right. I moved in with my elderly parents (90 and 85 years) my parents spent half the year in Turkey. My father was admitted to hospital in Turkey and because they could not come home for more than 6 months, they were evicted. the house was not empty because I also lived there with my child. we have been evicted because there is a housing shortage for Ukrainians. my whole life has been destroyed, my son went to pre-university education, his studies, his future is all gone. Now we are 6 years later and the promised help has yet to arrive. my partner has been diagnosed with colon cancer and our health has deteriorated. is this normal ?!?
Wow! I don't know what to say. Just awful. The world has gone mad. This sound like a story from the US not western Europe. Thanks for sharing.
We are talking about Turkey, which is not really a European country. The UK are taking tens of thousands of illegal people in.
I’m an American citizen and financially well off. As I got closer to my retirement age, I started thinking one day of retiring in a peaceful and beautiful country like turkey one day. I visited a couple of times spent a few months but now I have noticed how most outsiders are not so welcome anymore in Turkey. Of course the nature of Turkish people didn’t turn sour overnight. It has a lot to do with economics, inflation, influx of millions of refugees and disregard for Turkish culture by many recent legal and illegal immigrants. It’s a shame, but that definitely has changed my mind of ever making turkey my second home. 😢
Unfortunately you are right. Things have changed a lot over the years.
Hi friends,U may consider your Retirement years living in South East Asia like Cambodia, Malaysia or Indonesia 👍👍👍🥰🙏
Canaanite ? Do you not have a new home called Israel?
@@tuf41llol, i guess even israel has issues.
@@tuf41l Palestine 🇵🇸 ❤️
Hi from Istanbul. Sorry for your troubles. I'm Irish, living here for many years, married to a Turk and do have dual citizenship. I've been just discussing with my wife about your situation and we talked to some friends. I understand that putting Ken on the title deed can cause big problems later, however, there may be a way for Ken to be on the title deed and in the event of his passing (God forbid), the whole property can revert to you. The process is called Usufruct, a strange label! Usufruct is a limited "real right" found in civil law, that gives legal usage rights to one of the partners, Ken, and what is called dry ownership to you as the property owner. So in effect the house will be divided, Ken will be on the title deed as a resident for half of the property and you will have total ownership of the other half. In the situation where the "user" owner passes, the full right automatically reverts to you as his ownership right only is valid while he is alive. In the event of you passing first (again God forbid!) Ken would have a right to the property as your husband. However if you, as the "dry owner" have children, Ken would be entitled to a portion of the property and children will have a portion too. This is general advice under Turkish inheritance law but might change depending on your nationalities. Either way as a family residence, he will have the right to live there until his passing. Please don't take this as legal advice, I'm not a lawyer, I did ask someone about this but this might be a solution. To help in this process, your embassy will likely have a lawyer on the payroll, who might help you. Also you should contact the Bar Association, possibly Muğla Barosu is the one for your area, they may be able to offer you some legal aid services as they tend to support women a lot ! Good luck!
Wow, thank you. I will look into that. For now it won't help anymore but if we make it across this hurdle It could be an option to avoid future nonsense.
@@AtHomeInTurkey You are very welcome. We have our fingers crossed for you 😊
Great info from brianmsahin, I was going to suggest an attorney as well. I’m so sorry you are going through this . I’m a Turk living in U.S for 50 years , would love to buy property there someday but now hearing about your situation I don’t know! Good luck dear.
@@canolli2944If you have a turkish blue card none of this applies to you.
Thank you for the information. It was very valuable. I am sorry for your troubles. I wish you the best solution.
Oh no. A tricky situation. I really hope it can be resolved. I enjoy seeing Turkey through your videos. Wishing you all the best.
Thanks so much. We do our best to solve this.
I'm saying prayers for you, Ken, and Timo. 🙏🤍🤎❤
Thanks you.
That is aweful. I hope things work out for you❤
So sorry to hear of your situation. You are a very resourceful woman if there is a way round this I am sure you will find it x
Oh no 😕what a situation. I was in a similar conundrum some 27 years ago , ironically, in The Netherlands. Unfortunately this is happening in many countries, seems like they are trying to cut back on foreigners & their mode of apparatus is to make it increasingly difficult to meet the criteria. I think you are taking the right approach & hopefully the Turkish authorities will see sence & realise that your husband is too ill & that you own your property & have built a life in a country you obviously love & are willing to fight to stay in. I wish you the best of luck & will follow your journey. Take care ✌️
A world gone mad. Let's hope they help us out.
Shocking to hear Ellis. I hipe you can get your lives sorted. All the best. ♥️
So sorry to hear this very stressful news for you both. It seems many countries are tightening up their residency laws not just here in UK. We are in a crazy xenophobic time! Hopefully, with your resourcefulness, you will find a way through or round the situation. Wishing you the strength and tenacity to succeed. 🙏🙏🙏
Thanks! We also hope to solve this. Leaving is bad enough, but with a person with health problems it's another story.
Sooo sorry to hear this. I hope everything’s work for you
So sorry for your problems.Complicated.But knowing you things will work out.I so enjoy your trips and wonderful presentation.Dont give up. best wishes
Thank you so much! I never give up!
Oh Ellis! 😢 please hold on to your faith that no matter what it looks like...all is well. Trust that it WILL all workout somehow. Soooo much love and hope to you and Ken and Timo.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
That's what we are doing. There is always a way. Here or somewhere else.
I am so so sorry to hear of your dilemma .
How utterly devastating .
Lovely video with stunning scenery and fabulous editing
Wishing you all a way through and peace in the process x
Thanks. We will find a way out. Something will come up. It always does.
My first comment. I really enjoy your videos. I am hoping all will work out for you and Ken. Even when you are sharing terrible news your video eas amazing. I wish those in power would watch how much you promote the beauty of Turkiye.
Thank you so much! And lets hope we find a way out.
Wishing you all the very best.
Thinking of you and do hope everything work out!
It is happening in other countries, including in Britain: Governments only want people with high incomes coming to their countries. Freedom of movement for low income groups is restricted, they are effectively imprisoned within their own countries: realistically they can no longer retire, or work, in any country of their choosing. It is effectively discrimination against those with health problems (who cannot afford to pay extortionately high health insurance premiums) and against lower income groups. It was better when there was freedom of movement and when countries had agreements on healthcare (e.g. if a British person needed healthcare whilst in a foreign country, the British Government would pay; similarly if a foreign person in Britain needed healthcare, their own country would pay Britain. Global healthcare and global freedom to retire where one wanted to retire to. Now increasingly you have to stay in the country you were born into, unless you are one of the higher income groups. Indeed, some are now left in the situation where they are no longer able to return to their own country. So much for 'freedom' and 'democracy'. Most people are now enslaved and imprisoned in their own country. Even a holiday abroad is becoming impossible for low income groups, let alone retiring abroad. Sad and unacceptable. Problem is - most voters in Elections don't know what they are voting for, thus we end up with unfair rules and regulations - which are imposed retrospectively, with complete disregard for the impact on peoples lives.
So true
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@@jameswalsh2427 Sounds great!
That s why they did brexit all along to keep us in slave labour jobs here not to stop immigrants coming a disgusting disgrace
@@jameswalsh2427Ireland has more power re visas etc...England makes it almost impossible unless you re rich of course
This situation is not about Syrians and Russians I believe. I feel it's a kind of retaliation against the EU which denies short-term visas to Turkish citizens. Unless they hold a Green passport or are granted Golden visas in certain European countries they cannot even apply for visas to a Schengen country. It's devastating for them, not to be able to even make a short visit to a European country.
The Turks have never been free to go to Europe in the way we can travel. But they do. All educated young Turks are leaving if they can. So sad. All that knowledge for the future lost.
You're right. But recently all the Schengen countries have shut down even the appointments for visas. I lived in Turkey for 8 years.
Now I retired in Greece. And my educated Turkish friends can't visit anymore. Unless they buy this 7 day express visa for the islands. Take care and good luck.
The price of housing, the changes of regulations about renting, buying, investing started happening after the Russian operation in Ukraine. I wanted to buy in October 2022 but new regulations were coming in almost every three months, now I am out priced and I am looking into Colombia for retirement. I even learned Turkish but it's a good thing I speak Spanish too. I live in the US with dual Canadian citizenship, 2 useless countries for retiring.
Sounds like Turkey is updating its rules to match those of US and Netherlands, what’s the problem? What US expects from you as well as others, what Netherlands expects from Ken as well as others, Turkiye has the right to expect as well. It’s called reciprocity. EU and US policy makers are the reason why millions flooded across the border to Turkiye, creating the inflation and financial mess it is in. It benefits Europe as Turkish goods and services becomes cheaper due to currency exchange. With plenty of sunshine, beautiful beaches, geographic diversity, culture, food, unmatched history and places of interest, proximity to Europe, Asia, Africa and Middle East, you’d think Turkiye would be the most privileged, most expensive country to live in, yet by funding terrorist/separatists, puppet politicians, engaging in unfair trade practices, keeping the country in turmoil they’ve depreciated its real value so the usual suspects can eat, drink, travel and live for a pittance keeping the locals in cycle of poverty. It’s same all over the world, you go to Americas, Africa, Mexico, Asia you’ll find indigenous peoples who live in the most resource rich countries living paycheck to paycheck as servants who can’t enjoy the benefits of their own land, let alone retire in foreign lands whilst westerners take advantage of everything the country has to offer with just their pension. You’ll find crooked, “western educated” politicians, members of some secret society, selling the countries resources for pennies only to import them back at 20x the price as finished/value added goods. That 20x markup is also what’s funding your pension. That Nutella could easily be made for cheaper in a Black Sea town where hazelnuts are indigenous, but no, the hazelnuts has to be sold for pennies to some EU country which also import cocoa for pennies across multiple borders, they then jar it up, ship it all the way back to its origin at 20x markup. Why not bring the factories to that Black Sea or African town keeping its local population in place instead of migrating to EU for cleaning toilets?. This practice of poaching resources from its source and selling it back 20x cost is why we are where we are. Internet has made everything transparent and people are seeing discrepancies in fairness. When it comes to poaching EU is leading the pack. In Europe it’s these same people who’s countries are poached slaving away for les pay and benefits than a native would get in your service industry. I have never checked in a hotel or dined in a restaurant in EU, where from the desk person to the cleaner was not an immigrant. Never saw a Dutch/German person clean its airport toilets. Europeans seem to have an entitlement to standards of living above the migrants and aversion to low brow jobs and positions. They maintain this by artificially inflating their currencies while depreciating others. Every time a home grown politician manages to come to power, speaks self determination, economic independence, fairness in trade and equity someone decides the country is lacking “democracy and freedom” triggers insurrectionists and coup d’etat, with the West’s blessing. That level of entitlement needs to be checked. If an 80yo Turkish grandma can sell tomatoes in the bazar, gözleme by the beach to scratch a living, take care of someone at home, so can you, but it is more convenient to bring your inflated currency and live basically for nothing in someone else’s country. This level of colonial mindset is becoming more and more an irritant on local populations. This is not just a woke socialist rant, I’ve lived long enough to see how the world is rigged. People are waking up, times are changing, Africa is already braking its chains from countries like France. 500 years ago it was the east that had the wealth not the west. It think we are headed towards a reset.
@@Karakulak1071 especially Canada
My heart goes out to you. In my prayers.
I imagine like most subscribers and regular viewers of your channel, I find you humble and wholesome life in Turkey inspiring. Living the dream even. Then this happens! 🤬So so sorry to hear all this, but happy to hear you're 'back fighting'. Direct the energy of the rage to a focused campaign. You're clearly an intelligent Woman and if all your efforts still come to nothing, at least you know you've done all you can.
Oh and add my vote to the minister of culture and tourism nomination.
I first discovered you when researching the Likya Yolu. Your content is easily the most informative and delivered with obvious love and respect of the land and its history.
Thanks! The world has gone mad, that's for sure. Let's hope we find the way out.
Sad to hear you have to go through this trying time. Hoping you are able to find some sort of solution.
Thanks, we try. And if we have to we go. Simple.
So sad to hear about this Ellis. I hope your case will be reconsidered. I have learnt alot about Turkiye through your videos. Hoping for the best!
Thanks a lot. We will know more in september
I am very sorry to hear about your difficulties...the advice given here may not be sufficient and wise. I recognize you from your videos, you are a very intelligent person who knows what to do and I am sure you will overcome these problems. Do not be discouraged. Please keep us informed of your progress.Take good care of yourself 🌹🌿🐕💙👋
Thanks! We won't give up don't worry.
@@AtHomeInTurkey 🌹🌿🦅💙
Just discovered your channel because of the headline. What a paradise. Best wishes for a solution from Germany. 💖
Welcome aboard! And thanks!
So sorry to hear about your predicament 😢. I hope you will find a solution that suits the both of you. Wishing you all the best ❤❤
Thanks a lot. It is just so frustrating to know that it's like this for many. We live in daring times.
Sending love to you both and big big hugs to Timo ❤❤.
As a Turkish, I believe Germans and Dutch should be allowed to stay in Turkey without any restrictions, given the Turkish population in these countries.
Wow, that's generous. But I can see why they do this. Just makes new rules for incoming people. Not for the ones that are here for years already.
@@AtHomeInTurkeydon't belong to EU.
Agreed.
In the meantime, TR is immersed into Syrians and Afghans.
Ik hoop het beste voor je.
Grt van een Nederturk uit NL
Turkey is an apartheid country. Muslims are superior to non Muslims. Thanks but no thanks. The insult.
As a Turkish I can gladly say everyone who are trustworthy and honest (good people) from all around the world are welcome
I know. Turkish people are very welcoming. Only at this point Turkey gets overflown with incoming people. So they have to do something. Sadly they don't exclude the ones that lived here already
Sorry to hear your story 😢
I wish you all the luck in the world . There must be age consideration for this kind of situation . I hope it clears well for you and ken
A heart-breaking situation for you both. Hope you find the strength to fight through the red tape and find an answer.
Thanks. Sadly paperwork is not my strongest point haha. But we keep fighting.
Hopelijk komt het snel goed ❤❤❤
Dank je. We werken eraan maar zullen het pas in September zeker weten.
I hope things turn out as you wish, and as the best for you.. Good wishes.
I hope so too. Thanks
I'm sorry for your situation , don't give up because yes turkiye changes rules often but there is always a way to negotiate.
Thanks, we wait and see.
We wensen je het allerbeste Ellis!
Helaas zijn de regels soms absurd en zo talrijk dat ze elkaar soms tegenspreken.
We duimen voor je!
Het zijn ad hok beslissingen hier, die ook net zo snel weer teruggedraaid worden. Gewoon chaos dat slachtoffers maakt.
I hope everything works out well for you both.
Times are changing fast everywhere. Sometimes we don’t get what we want but what we need. I wish you both the best outcome 🙏🏻
Thanks!
Really hope you and Ken can find a solution. Best wishes to you both.
Thanks. Let's hope they come back on it and let the people that are al ready here alone.
I hope you find a way around this nightmare. We all have to jump through hoops to get residency here. Good luck to you.
Yes, but I don't want to jump no more. I stay within the rules or leave. Turkey is not the county I fell in love with anymore. It's just the place I feel most at home. That's why I want to stay.
@@AtHomeInTurkey I know how you feel, I felt very free here in Turkey, now not so much. My wife and i quit England completely to live here now we fear they can change the rules anytime to make it impossible. I really hope you find a compassionate Turk that can help you and Ken through this nightmare. Good luck.
Hopelijk komt het goed.🍀
Vast wel. Maar de onrust die het geeft bij mij en anderen. Ik begin steeds meer begrip voor de stress van asielzoekers te krijgen. Die hebben vaak niks en ook geen opties.
Stay safe and stay strong. One of my Aunt ( deceased now ) was very sick and almost immobilised. When I visited her in village she laughed loudly to welcome me and my wife. I was very surprised to see her laughing as if she is perfectly fine and enjoying life. So I asked her if she is doing good…she replied , my son..God is so kind to us by letting TIME pass always , be it good or bad, but time keeps going and does not stay the same…always changes. I still get strength from this statement…so our prayers with you..still safe.
That's beautiful! Thanks!
Iam sooo sorry!❤😢
I love dearly Turkey!
What I love ❤️ most is their food, amazing cuisine and the culture people very helpful and friendly.
I agree. Great place with great people.
Pray for you, Ken & Timo.🙏❤
Wij zaten in Oludeniz toen ik op TH-cam je bericht zag, heel erg voor jullie!, en de stress die dit oplevert kan helaas ook je gezondheid aantasten,ik hoop zo dat jullie een oplossing vinden.
Ik wens jullie heel veel sterkte!.
Dank je. En ja, Ken heeft er erg veel last van dat ik misschien weg moet vanwege hem. Dat doet hem geen goed.
@@AtHomeInTurkeyik zie net je kanaal en dacht toch even te reageren. Misschien een idee om met de lokale burgemeester in gesprek te gaan. Dat ze toch een uitzondering maken ivm uw partner’s situatie
i am sorry to hear about it. i hope everything will be ok. this is beautiful place.. where is it? be careful, these stones look dangerous for fall.
I live close to Dalyan in the Mugla province.
InşAllah ❤❤ Your Plan Will Work. I think the Angle that you will be resolving the case is a really good one. Specially that in Turkey 🇹🇷 they are fond of the elderly and the sick. If you play your cards right! For sure! It will work out. You can show all the medical records, also that if your husband were to travel it can cause a lot of emotional stress and physical damage to him. And perharps that being in Turkey he is getting the necessary treatments for him.
Why don’t you folks apply for citizenship? That’s another way out????
Best of Luck!!!
Good luck to you ❤❤❤❤
God bless you both. ♥️🙏. From Texas
welch eine traurige geschichte. - ich wünsche dir und deinem mann, dass alles ein gutes ende hat und ihr in der schönen türkei bleiben könnt! ich wollte schon vor 3 jahren eine bleibe mieten. gut, dass es nicht geklappt hat. für euch wird es gut ausgehen, daran glaube ich, und ich wünsche es euch von herzen!
Thank you. Lets hope it all works out well
I’m so sorry Lady I hope you solve your immigration status as soon as possible ❤
Hope you get sorted 🙏
Thanks!
Oh Ellis what a terrible situation you both find yourselves in. I was so sorry to hear that news. It is particularly awful because you own land and a house and you and Ken have lived there for years. Turkish bureaucracy at its worst. Thinking of you and I am sending you my best wishes and hope your research provides a solution. Take good care of yourself ❤
Thanks, it's just all so...How can I phrase that....Uprooting. Yes, that.
I'm really sorry Ellis. I hope a good solution is found
Yes for me and all the others that are in the same boat
I am sorry to hear about all the trials and stresses that you are having to endure. I hope that the Turkish Government will have sympathy for you and your husband and allow you both to live out your days in the land that you love. Regarding your husband’s gout this recipe helped my husband’s gout within one day it was gone . Recipe 1 cup of organic apple cider vinegar 1 teaspoon of Turmeric and 1 or 2 Tablespoons of runny honey. Mix all ingredients together and have him take 2 tablespoons every 4 hours. Get him to rinse out his mouth after he takes it or have him try to swallow the mixture without it going near his teeth. This recipe works for Gout, Chesty coughs, and Heartburn. Sending Love ❤️ to both of you and hope for good news.
Thank you. He is taking something like that mix. He also adds garlic and something else. Its the medication that creates the problem.
I hope something better is waiting for you wish you a cheerful life here in Turkey and hereafter 🎉🎉🎉 wish some solution of this problem cpmes in your way soon.✅👍
Thank you so much!
So sorry you are having this nightmare. From experience if you go to your local Goc Idaresi and see a senior supervisor they can be very helpful and try and find a solution for you. Take a good Translator with you if your Turkish is not perfect. Good luck.
Thanks, but he also can not change the rules. Let's hope we can sort this within the rules
I wish you all the best love I am not in your situation, when it comes down to having a spouse who has complications or problems of any sort, because I am by myself at this point of my life, but I definitely can understand things from the migration standpoint. I recently went through issues here in Mexico, but I was very fortunate that I found a program that allowed me to stay in Mexico and I got my temporary residency for four years and I was elated. And if the rule hasn't changed by 2028 I will be eligible for permanent residency btw this program didn't require proof of income and this is one of many reasons I love Mexico. Best of luck to you!
Yes, from what I hear and see Mexico is a good place to live.
I'm so sorry this is happening to you. Cambodia maybe... veel sterkte!
I hope you enjoy the rest of your time in your homeland. The colors of this era is changing and must change.
Thanks. The world has cone mad. And it has to get worse before it can be better.
Do not worry. You have the right attitude, you will be fine. I am sorry that your husband is seriously ill. That is always a challenge. But I have the feeling you will be able to deal with that as well.
Thanks, you are right. Something will come up, it always does.
Ellis, I watch all your films, and very lovely they are too, what the Turkish government don’t realise is foreigners are leaving for many reasons the economy, the Visa the Airbnb situation and this will be a huge loss of foreign income coming into this country that we regard our own, it may affect me and Trudie too yet we don’t know! I think your Idea may work, good luck, 🤠🙋♀️
Thanks. And yes, it is a problem for so many at the moment. Let's hope they go back to the old system. İf only for people that came here years ago.
I was thinking of the pair of you too when I saw this this morning. I hope you are all OK. Must be terrible to constantly wonder when the rules will change!
@@kimmcvitty3580 Thanks. I makes me feel for those refugees that sometimes wait years before they know what will happen to them. And they have nothing and nowhere to go.
The whole world seems to be descending into chaos , i dont see it getting any better for a long time . Call me a conspiracy nut but it looks like it is part of a evil plan to control the world .
I really would like to know how much money are we gonna lose if you and the other migrants leave my beautiful soils? In my opinion syrians, afghans, pakis, russians, ukrainians or brits... It doesn't matter how much money you're bringing. 'Cause you're taking more than you brought!!! As a retired couple in their sixties there is not a single thing you can give the Turkish people or Turkey. You rent our homes by your pounds, consuming our resources (food, water, gas, electricity etc.) Here' s the deal. Leave as soon as possible and don't worry about the Turks. We'll bring more money in our country when you left.
I really hope today's government have enough balls to kick you out of Turkey, like our grandparents have done in 1923.
OMG ! never ever thought you would be affected by all this ! so so sorry to hear this , seem like no one is safe anywhere ! your home is a little paradise ! i wish i could help. thses recent changes have made me think about my future there to . i rally hope you can get a way around this .
It's a mess, that's for sure
Hallo Ellis, dit is ontzettend schrikken van dit nieuws. De problemen waar je nu tegen op loopt. Ik wens je alle steun en hoop dat dit opgelost wordt, zodat je kan blijven wonen in je geliefde Turkije. Groet Gerard. . Nog vraagje welk nummer is het intro muziek nummer.
Dank je. We gaan het zien. En de intro muziek is origineel een stuk sneller en komt van epidemicsound : A Country Sunset - Constellate
Just am praying the Lord would change your situation in your favor and that you have peace and have good sleep🙏
Heel veel sterkte toegewenst, hopelijk komt het allemaal goed.❤❤
I am so sorry that this had happened to you. The government right now does not seem to know how to control the migration issues. I hope it gets solved easly for you. There were other youtubers to having the same kind of problems. The flock of mas migration messed up Turkey so bad.
Yes I agree. Something had to be done but in a normal political situation they leave the ones that are from an old system alone.
That's what would be usually done in other countries with something like this...@@AtHomeInTurkey
If worst came to worst could you stay on repeat tourist visas just leaving the country for a weekend or a few days in between each visa ?
@@shooster5884 If all fails we most likely end up doing something like that. 3 months in 3 months out
@@AtHomeInTurkey it would be a lot of disruption for you but hopefully it won't come to that if they allow the long-term residents to be exempt.
I can't see what benefit is is to the country to expel so many people. Most are likely spending money there earned abroad..
Hi Ellis, sorry about your situation and can relate to it so closely. I'm Turkish and my husband is Irish. We lived in İstanbul for a few years but he had to go back to the UK to work. To get residency in the UK you have to pay 5 grands for application and have min 27 grand yearly income! We're working towards it.
Maybe you can live in a country this residency requirements nonsense hasn't affected yet. And you have a dog too! Good luck!
Thanks. And yes it has become a nightmare in many places.
So sorry to hear of your dilemma. Wishing you all the best..❤
I just came across your channel today. I am so sorry to hear what’s happened. If becoming caregiver doesn’t work, is it possible that you could rent half of your home to your husband?
Sadly part of the oroblem for many people is that rentals don't count any more. İts a hous you own or steady income
@@AtHomeInTurkey Well then, I pray that God opens another door for you both!
Don't give up-that would be the real failure! Instead, develop more plan Bs and Cs, and fight back one step at a time. Starting with a caregiver is a good move. Rapid changes are happening worldwide, even here in Canada. Hang in there! Cheers!
Thanks! And no we don't give up. I just makes that I don't trust the future here and I hate that.
If it cheers you up my neighbour who is Kurdish bought a house close to mine in UK. He now owns property back in Turkey and is still young and is now back in Turkey on holiday. So he now has more freedom than me and the majority of UK people.
Well done on him. I wish for all people to live and do as they want.
Hi there I came across to your video. I understand your feeling very well. It feels so overwhelming . it’s a life-changing experience and you feel like if someone else can live here why I cannot ?! Why people are told to go leave somewhere else ? The land of the world belongs to all humanity . I am a Turkish citizen 16 years ago I was kicked out of the uk with similar reasons, I was extremely upset took me two years to adapt my new life when I was back to Turkey. But now if they invite me back to UK to leave, I would not want to change my life and go again. I start to beautiful life here in İstanbul. I am so happy I will not go nowhere else to live only maybe for Travel. if there is anything you need if I can, I would be happy to help
Thanks! Very kind of you. I am so happy it worked out for you. I am sure we will find a way too. It just a world gone mad at the moment. And so many people in a position way worse than we are.
Hi Ellis, if you do have to leave, what about Hungary or Bulgaria. Seems you can buy cheap houses in the villages. All the best and good luck!
Not ready to think that far. If I sell I will never come back in here. So no hurry to do so at this point.
If you have to leave I'm sure you could come to Bulgaria.Its not too far and visa requirements are easy.I'm from the UK and have 5 year residency here.
Yes, its one of the places on my radar. Let's hope I don't have to contact you for more info haha
I was reading about Bulgaria for retirement too, I don't speak the language but I was even looking for the areas where they have a Turkish population. I still have another 2 years to decide, so much can happen til then.
Hi Ellis, if you do have to leave, what about Hungary or Bulgaria. Seemsyou can buy cheap houses in the villages. All the best and good luck!
I don't think that far ahead. I don't want to sell up here. If I do there is no way back ever.
European countries even give visa appointments months later. I enrolled my child in university. I paid 30 thousand euros for both university and accommodation. And do you know what happened? They didn't even give my son a visa to study. We objected twice by hiring a lawyer. 4 thousand euros of lawyer fees were also wasted. The school said it could refund 1/3 of the money we paid. They still haven't refunded the money. We will go to court with the school.
Are you telling me about difficulty???
Wow, what a horror. I am so sorry. The world has gone mad.
@@AtHomeInTurkey Unfortunately it is. My brother moved to Sweden for business purposes 7 years ago. He took his family with him. And the immigration department still hasn't issued him a residence card. Our father passed away and he could not attend the funeral. He was told that if he left the country he would never return. Now his father-in-law has Alzheimer's, his mother-in-law is in a coma, but his wife cannot come and see her parents. The woman cries every day. If they leave the country before their immigration card is issued, they cannot return. Immigration has been waiting for a decision for 3 years. I hope you find the solution you want as soon as possible.
I wish I had a way to help you with the problem you described. The rules cannot be generalized this way and not distinguish between those who come into the country now, and those who lived there (as law abiding citizen almost) for many years.
In the worst case scenario, if nothing helps and you need to leave, consider moving to different country, not necessarily US or Holland. You can move to the county closest to the border. Bulgaria to west, Georgia and Azerbaijan to the east. The income requirements in Georgia and Azerbaijan could be much less. Research needs to be done though. In any case I wish you best of luck.
Thanks. If they make us leave we will go for 3 months in 3 months out first to have time to look into all the options. Something will come up, it always does.
A large number of immigrants of unknown origins are entering the country, the number is crazy. In other words, almost one hundred percent of some of our cities close to the border are Syrian. However, it is truly inconceivable that people like you, who are self-sufficient and know the country well, have trouble staying there.
I wish everybody a good life and place to live. I understand the new rules, but new rules should only involve the people that come in from that moment on. I gave up everything in Holland to go to my new forever home. Turkey. To change that after 20 years is wrong.
Heartbreaking...I hope a solution comes your way. Could you rent a part of your house for a few nights a month to show additional income for him?
With the new rules they rolled out this year that is not so easy. Plus I am not sure if that count as work or not. We can (officialy) not work as foreigners.
I do sympathise with you and the anxiety you are suffering. The new rules appear so harsh both towards home owners and long term renters alike, and because of this many people are or will be affected. I have lived here 24 years following rules, remaining legal in all aspects and paying taxes and investment through consumerism, I am feeling very much let down ultimately. As a retired renter I will be able to abide by the new ruling, impractical as it is, but quite frankly I no longer trust or feel welcome here. I wish you well with your endeavours.
Exactly that. You don't feel welcome anymore. That's a big problem. Trust is gone.
Hi Ellis, a year ago I sold my house(USA), retired and went to Turkey with plans to buy or rent an appartement. It was my dream for a few last years to retire in Turkey, but things started changing and what most bothered me was peoples intolerance to foreigners. So I spend 1 month in Antalya a returned back. Seems like Turkey will never be as it was 5-6 years ago.
Ellis, have ever thought about Montenegro or Bulgaria, you shouldn't have problems with living permit there I think. Also Georgia, post Soviet Union territory, is a good place to live. You don't need an entry visa and live there 12 months with no visa or living permit.
Good Luck!
Thanks! I am so sorry it did not work out for you. So sad. It's not the same for sure. By the way, I did not know about Georgia. Great!
they are reviving their sense of islamic apartheid- them vs kuffars.
I am so sorry..we are also leaving Turkiye because the income is just too much for us. The ever changing rules also make it impossible to settle with peace.
Exactly that. Even if we can stay, the feeling of being unsafe is devastating. And maybe enough to make us leave anyway.
Thanks
Thank you so much. This nearly makes me cry 🙏
Sorry to hear that you are in a such precarious situation, Ellis. Have you contacted with an immigration lawyer? Perhaps a lawyer could find a way to get your residency permits extended. I am a turkish citizen living in Germany. I hate to see when good and honest people are simply pushed into such a dead end because of these unjustifiable reasons, whichever the country they live in... Please let me know if I can help you in any way. Don't give up.! Good luck to you all.!
Thanks. We will try the normal way first. Not sure if I want to fight.
I hope you find a viable solution blessings
I really feel for you. We are expats in TRNC, been here a long time and family before us. Now jumping through hoops because of the greed for new money..
So sad. But it's no better in a lot of other places. The world has gone mad.
Go to the southern boarder come one come all .God bless you both .
My wife had the same kind of doubts so here is what we did to resolve them. We went to the goc, that is the immigration Office itself, asked. The answer was translated and notarized marriage license. Both spouses get same result. Yes it is a pain to go to that office, not friendly.
I am waiting for some paperwork and then we go. They are always very helpful. But marriage alone is not enough anymore. We will see. Update is coming soon
Rent out the house and cross over to Greece. Same beautiful nature, same sea, similarly good cousine. As a Dutch citizen you can stay there as long as you wish.
Yes, but that does not count for my husband. But we will see. First an answer to our problem and move on from there.
i am restricted by norwegian rules, i cannot stay abroad longer than 12 months without returning to Norway or get kicked out of social security, lose healthcare insurance and lose my rights to my pension payments until i return to Norway.. never been affected by turkish regulations..
That's virtually the rule for every country in the world. What are you expecting?