Can We Stay In Turkey? New Rules Say We Can't | part II
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- According to the new rules we can no longer stay in Turkey. Good behavior... 20 years of living here in Turkey? I all does not matter. Rules are rules. Is there a way... Maybe...
Join us while we fight to be able to stay in the country we love so much but is ruined by bad management.
New rules are rolling out every few months. And the latest make that we no longer meet the requirements. Here they are:
1- Only homeowners will receive a 2-year residence permit.
Spouses whose names are not on the title deed will receive a 6-month residence permit and will make an income commitment and enter money into their accounts in Turkish lira, one and a half times the monthly minimum wage. (26000 Liras for now)
2- Foreigners who rent a house will also have to extend their residence permit for 6 months and make an income commitment and receive money into their Turkish lira accounts at one and a half times the monthly minimum wage. New applications have been closed for foreigners renting.
3- Retired foreigners will also receive a 6-month residence permit and will make an income commitment and enter money into their Turkish lira accounts at one and a half times the monthly minimum wage.
4- This application does not affect those who are married to a Turkish citizen; there is no change in the application for family residences.
5-This application does not affect homeowners, there is no change for them in the application. They will receive a 2-year residence permit. They are not responsible for depositing money into the bank account.
6- If your name is listed on the title deed jointly with a friend or sibling, you cannot obtain home ownership residence. You will receive a tourist residence permit for 6 months and you will need to make an income commitment and enter money into Turkish lira accounts one and a half times the monthly minimum wage.
7- If there is more than one name on the title deed, only the husband, wife, parents and their children can obtain homeowner's residence (This application is only carried out by the Fethiye Immigration Administration).
8-Your title deed purchase date and its value on the date of purchase are very important. Application will be made according to the limits of the period you purchased. Having a title deed does not directly give you the right to obtain a residence permit.
9- New application is still closed for tourism purposes, except for retirees. Retirees must bring their income from their country with apostille, and this income must be one and a half times the minimum wage.
#ikamet #residencepermit #turkey
It saddens me that after spending 20 years there and supporting the economy in your way - living peacefully and sharing the wonderful areas with others - decisions now have to be made. Hoping you can find a happy solution that suits you and is safe for years to come. Your positivity shines through. All the very best.
Thanks! Something will come up, it always does.
Hello. I'm sure you have thought about this before I tell you but I'm going to suggest it anyway. If you have to leave Turkey why don't you just take your car and go to Cyprus for the 90 days you have to stay out of the country and then you can return to Turkey for 3 months. This way you will spend 6 months a year in Turkey and 6 months in Cyprus which is similar to Turkey in weather and lifestyle. Wishing you all the best. Danny from Ireland 😊😊
Something like that is the plan. But first we try to stay. If not we will look into other places to do this. Lets hope our budget can handle that.
@@AtHomeInTurkey cyprus is very much it costs a lot. like really a lot. bulgaria is half the price food etc. . homes in the village cost 6 to 8 thousand euro or much better home12 . if your on pension in euros bulgaria is good .as for residents laws for eu members it a walk in the park.
@@AtHomeInTurkeyHere in Bulgaria in the south where is the border with Turkey there are wonderful small cities and villages.In general all over Bulgaria there are places with lots of Europeans who live peacefully and without any obstacles.
I dont know what to advise you, but why you dont take a short trip around Bulgaria and you can see for yourself.
Weather is smiliar with cyprus???? only south mediterennean maybe?
Hi, I'd like to suggest you consider coming to Portugal if needed, as it's also an EU country and in the south, Algarve, the climate is also similar to Turkey! Best wishes @@AtHomeInTurkey
Thank you for sharing your journey with us. I'm afraid that I don't have any advice, but I want to say that you are a true inspiration to me. I've only been following you for a few weeks and was saddened for both of you, when I just saw your latest videos.
You are an incredibly strong and resourceful woman... I'm sure you will find a way! Blessings and light to you both of you and Timo, too 🙏❤️
Thank you so much. We will find a way somehow I am sure.
Hi Ellis,
I see you guys stay. We are all with you, supporting your anchor 🤍
The getting ready part appears to be the leaving whatever you no longer need behind.
Welcome to TheNew🥳
#SoMuchLove
I feel so sorry for you both, Ellis. All this uncertainty is killing. I keep my fingers crossed and hope for the best. ❤️
Thanks!
Hope that all is well and good luck with the channel! Leaving a comment for the algorithm
Thanks. Working on a solution of the problem. Will make an update video soon.
4:04 - Pretty, pink Oleander 🌺
Sending prayers and good wishes to you, Ken, and Timo. 🤞
Like you say, things happen for a reason, but I really wish you the best, and that you continue in the country you have lived in. I enjoy your videos and sympathise with your situation.
Thanks. Fingers crossed.
Looking forward to good,positive news.Wishing you the best.
Thank you!
I am sending positive thoughts for you and Ken .
Thanks a lot. Its a nasty situation. The not knowing and waiting is the biggest problem at this point
Fingers crossed for you Ellis, good luck. xxx
So sorry to hear you may have to leave Turkey Ellis, this must be one hell of a trying time for you. I wish you all the best. Crossed fingers and toes too.
Let's hope we can stay. It's not over yet.
Thank you so thought ful careing and kind .god bless you and good luck x
I like your positive attitude dealing with this problem. I wish you all the best ❤
Thanks!
Good luck to you, Ken and not forgetting Timo,hope you can stay.
Thanks!
Hoping for the best Ellis.
Thanks!
Im American and live in Turkey Having spinal surgery in Istanbul August first Great surgeon
Medical care is fantastic here.
With a South African passport it is 100 times worse. If Turkey doesn't work try Montenegro, I am currently visiting Montenegro. Beautiful country, great people and lovely weather BUT things will change once they become part of the EU.
Thanks! I have a whole list of countries that we will check out if we have to leave. Montenegro is on it.
I really hope you can find a solution my darling! I love your posts. I love Turkey and your wonderful walks. You've shown me such beautiful places. Much love
Thank you so much! I'm sure something will come up. Always does.
Hello, I have watched your videos so far with love and appreciation, they all have one thing in common, love of nature and respect and love for historical buildings. I see that you are an exemplary person, of course the law doesn't look at this. But you have the ability and determination to overcome everything. I hope you will overcome this challenge as well. Take care of yourselves. Goodbye. 🌹🌿🐕👋
Thanks! something will come up, I am sure. It always does.
Cool I am very happy to hear that ❤
Ill be hoping to hear more good news for you guys!!! ❤❤❤❤❤
Not until end of august. We can only wait.
@@AtHomeInTurkey kind of gives you more time to reflect, focus and plan. A blessing in disguise I hope.
I am so sorry to hear that. I hope they choose to not do that. Turkey needs to be a little more flexible with its immigration laws imo especially for people who are productive members of society and have been there for so long like you!
Talk to my brother who is a retired lawyer in Turkiye.
Excellent idea
I hope everything goes well.
James J Walsh in Limerick city Ireland 🇮🇪 sending positive healing vibrations now. Subscribed and liked
Thanks and welcome.
Let's hope the specialist comes through 🤞✌️
Ook ik had twee keer een flinke domper in mijn leven. Dat keerde het blad, nu zie ik die gebeurtenissen als geluksval. Waren die toen ongelukkige omstandigheden niet gebeurd was ik nu niet waar ik nu gelukkig ben. Blijf optimistisch.
Je hebt absoluut gelijk. Ik ken het effect.
Rent out the home with the car? I watced your last video yesterday and the 3 year old house tour video this mornig. It is an injustice that you must leave. Best wishes, Norway
What part of Turkey do you live? it looks very nice the place you live. You are a very strong a positive woman awesome video.
Köyceğiz, Muğla. And yes it's very nice here. I am in a small village close to Dalyan on the other side of the river.
I've just found your channel and also live in Yanga, Koycegiz. I'll look out for you to say Hi. We are also leaving due to all the rules changes and insecurities with that. We are new to the Koycegiz area so we love seeing where you are walking and see if we can find it too.
Wishing you all the best. We will be following your posts. Stay positive I am sure you will find a solution. If not here maybe somewhere else that offers more security.
@@biancat5015 How nice! I live in Candir. Let's hope we can all stay to live in this beautiful place.
These are the consequences of long visa queues! Retirees of Europe and America live like kings in Turkey with 500 euros! European and American countries, which send retired and sick elderly people away from their country to eliminate health cost and send them to Turkiye, but same countries give appointments 1 year later to give Turks even for tourist visas!
Turkey does not take care of the expats and other Europeans. We pay for every year we are here, have to give proof of health insurance and have to have a house in our name to live in. Plus we have to show more income than minimum wage to be able to stay. And hey, if they don't want us they should have refused us when we came and not after we gave up everything to start a new life here. I do understand the immigration problems but this is not the way.
@@AtHomeInTurkey The problem is that while it is possible for westerners to come to Turkey whenever they want and stay as long as they want, a Turk has to wait months for a visa even for a touristic visit to a western country! If it is so difficult for a Turk to go to Europe or America, it is not equality for a westerner to have such easy conditions in Turkey. Turks are always hospitable, but the fact that this is one-sided, used by western states, and does not keep any promises given by western states. Their failure to keep their promise led to these consequences!
@@Miyen-l8h I do not agree with the rules for Turks traveling to other countries. I know it can be done but it's not easy and it's not fair. I also think that the reasons for this are outdated. So many Turkish people would love to travel and go back to Turkey after the trip. They don't want to stay in Europe anymore like the used to.
@@AtHomeInTurkeyyou have a lot of common sense. I wish you as a prime minister or president of any country!
@@Miyen-l8hpromote economic growth in Turkey so that income is equal to western countries. Than western countries will not afraid of Turks working illegally in the West and will give you visa free travel.
Turkey do not afraid illegal workers from EU or US, that is why it gives them visa free travel.
Fingers croosed for you. I even couldn't able to get a touristic Schengen Visa rendez-vous atm...
I know, it's crazy.
Ellis, why don’t you show the car that you’re trying to sell? If you haven’t sold it already on here? Go round it with your camera you’ve got a few followers.
I have not done that because I am in no hurry to sell anymore now the first panic is over. The thought of loosing it for my day to day use is still a problem somehow. I know it's stupid, but I just know I never find another. And if there is something with the van I have no transport and shops are over in Dalyan. Just me being difficult i guess. 😂
We need a car in Türkiye?
@@casojidesigns327 Yes we do, no bus where I live. 5 km to a shop.
This country doesn't even want its own citizens to stay, so good luck.💙
If they have bad thoughts and wants attac our Gouverment you are true😉 so let them leave we don't need such people!
All the "Governements" do not want old people who collect pensions. Already Belgium and France are making changes for those living outside. Justin Trudeau found a quick "solution", legislation passed
Dilinizi bilmiyorum Türkiye'de yaşıyorsunuz herhalde hangi ülkeden geldiniz Türkiye'yi sevdinizmi abone oldum😊 adım Hülya 💐
Welcome. I am Dutch and live in Mugla, Turkiye
Dunno how but if u live close to Antalya, I'm willing to help or assist you.
Thank you, that's so nice. But for now we need no help. Just new rules haha
Can you rent your place as an Airbnb? You can set up a business in Turkish Cypress and maybe that can give you the income to become a National
Thing is: I don't need more money. They want to force us to need more. I will not be manipulated that way. There are more places in the world. It's just that I always felt at home here and they are taking that from me. But, that feeling is fading rapidly. I hear constant talk of people that have and had to leave. It disgusts me.
laws are still not stable, it will keep on changing and will improve to be better and more flexable, perhaps you should wait couple of month before making final decisions.
The decision is not mine residence renewal will be in two months.
Sorry to learn about your situation. Sounds like you have stayed in Turkey for many years. Have you thought about applying Turkish citizenship, then your husband's family residence can be addressed easier?
I can not do that. I will lose my Dutch passport. Sadly this is what the world has become. It's not just here.
@@AtHomeInTurkey Sorry, I was under impression most EU countries recognize dual citizenship. Obviously Dutch is not one of them. Fingers crossed that you will find a solution eventually.
@@AtHomeInTurkeyEven Germany allows dual citizenship now.
I hope Dutch will do it also. In this world of digital nomads human need multiple passports.
@@adelkharisov I agree
If your van is mended it is worth more. Don't know where you are in turkey but people would pay to camp there. You may not be so private but do you have an alternative.
We are in a very popular place. Köyceğiz area. But renting out stuff comes with it own set of problems. Also a lot of new rules there. It's the reason a lot of villas are empty in places like Fethiye, Marmaris and Dalyan
@@AtHomeInTurkey I hope turkey doesn't get like Spain rejecting tourists. I first visited Turkey 30 years ago and loved it. The last time I went it was unrecognisable from my first visit. I sat in a tiny cafe at the water edge with old Turkish men having breakfast. I could not understand what they were talking about but it was so lovely seeing the locals. All that has gone. More like Blackpool. It's a shame. I am talking about fethyie.
@@user-ty5ys2zz8d Its like that all over the med. When I was in Spain as a kid it was the same as Turkey 30 years ago. From there it moved east slowly over the last 50 years. Where people go things change.
@@user-ty5ys2zz8dThe tourists came and changes our naturelity our purety our sweet and normal lifes! Yes they bring a little bit money but in the same time they took so much things away from us and changes our infrastructure the nature everywhere are beton bungalows and than they judge those countries and SAY bad things about us and judges those countries in a very hurting way! Excuse my broken English! These modern and arrogance people forget that 3 Finger always shows back to you! Gidin yaaa beğenmek zorunda da değilsiniz ki, ihtiyacımız yok kimseye! And for those who think Europe is a rich İndustrial countrie they should go and see how the old people in Europe life😢! İn poorness they have not a good status anymore that is the reason why they leave Europe and go to Greek, Spain or Türkiye to have a better life and stay arrogant😅! See your own truth please! Türkiye is much better than many western countries look with what we must fight every single day? Everywhere refugees around us, wars and many many problems and we solved it in a good way with kindness even when we are not a rich İndustrial countrie like you, we live with refugees more than 10 years and now also Ukrain people are flueting our homeland! And what does Europe do mesnwhile? They cry and get stressed and fall in panic when just only 1500 million refugees and these are the best of them like doctor, knowledge people go in their countries and they dont stay kind to them they hate them isn't it paradox? And you western people say Türkiye is bad and not god enough and this state is poor young people leave their own country! Are you kidding us??? If you have to carry so many problems on your shoulders how good and grateful can life be? Western people makes the life of muslim countries like a nightmare because they took there nose in everything and let people fight against each other or judge gouverments or say they have no humanrights bla bla bla so why you come??? Whats with there own rightousity and conscience their goals are just how İ get rich and richer or stay in comfor and how İ get their all Resource? Amerika and his puppets they only judge and spoke bad about our politiks destroy and demolized make a kaos after than they show the world look how good people we are! Pappalappap in nothing they do their fingers under a stone! Most of them are monsters with angle faces hope you understand what İ try to explain with my terriable English! Stay kind be polite and stay fair with real justice and far from judeing others and double morality okey?! Than everything will be change in a better way thank you! Saygılar Dadaş...
Hi, @AtHomeInTurkey. Do you know any property agents?
If it is financial reasons that are causing this problem could some techy person start a gofundme page? I for one would happily contribute if it meant I could carry on watching your wonderful adventures.
Last week I went with friends to Counos Terrace,the owner picked us up at the ferry and actually drove to the top of your road and pointed down and said "Ellis lives down there,she is my friend."He obviously knows fans when he sees them.
Haha I hear that from others too. He is the best. The money thing is complicated. You need 28000 liras a month coming in in a Turkish bank account even if you had millions in a euro or dollar account. So that problem will not go away. A funding page... maybe... if we are forced to leave. I have very mixed emotions on that. Giving is easier than receiving haha
Why don't you go home to your own country... sorry not a subscriber just asking
Sorry to ask this, but from what I read you said you have been living in Turkey for 20 years. How is it that you have not obtained a permanent residence permit so far? From what I know if you have a residence permit in Turkey for 8 years, you can get a permanent residence visa.
I do not have the income needed to get the permanent one. Never had.
@@AtHomeInTurkey I see. Thanks for your reply. Wishing you all the best.
@@AtHomeInTurkey
In 20 years that could have been made possible right? You could have set up some sort of a business which took 1 or 2 days of the month to do. I find your situation disturbing. You should be able to live there but you also have tried to exclude yourself as much as possible so it seems. Im pretty sure that if you could explain your situation well enough people could/gouvernement could mean something to you
@@oguzhan9424 Sorry but as a foreigner you are not allowed to work.
And be assured many are in this same situation. You just don't hear of it.
If all fails try saying you are syrian or afghan the state would of taken care of you then.
Last time i was in Turkey, i came across a snake at a roman site called perge, are you ever concerned about them?
Not scared of snakes. Spiders are my problem
@@AtHomeInTurkey
You need cats if you don’t want to see any pests. They will hunt anything crawling, walking or flying.
Snakes are all over especially in hot climates Best advice is to avoid them Same thing with Giant Hornets Trust me on that
@@nostaljiturkce My cat takes on small snakes and Timo takes care of the bigger ones. I don't want him to but have found the bitten through snakes that only he could have killed.
@@AtHomeInTurkey
Cats can kill small snakes easily. They may even bring the dead to you to show off. They will scare the big ones of. Small cats have one of the fastest reflexes in the whole animal kingdom. I believe there are not many poisonous snakes left in Turkiye. We do have many cats protecting us :) We really get along well with cats. Dogs are okey but they form gangs when their numbers increase. They become dangerous for human kids and elderly.
13:07 Timo in het water 😍
Yes! Sometimes he does. But no swimming, that's for sissy's 😂
do not care
I am like you, my sister. I bought a property in Istanbul worth $130,000 for 5 years. I had a normal residence permit, but now they tell me that I am only taking a residence permit, but my family does not. So how is this? Is this true? They want to disperse families
These new rules are heartbreaking. So hope you get out of this mess too.
@@AtHomeInTurkey God willing, I will try to sell everything and get out and end this heartache
Thanks my grammer etc is bad missed school for years do to tradgedy
Sorry to hear that.
@@AtHomeInTurkey thanks you for kindnes . it was very sad very tragic 'missed school went into decline . Could never get back up 'i can think ok ' work very hard . But the normal things like spelling grammer are mainly guess work .'
@@terenceoakes4244 Don't worry about it. It's about communicating, getting your point across. The rest is nice but not needed in my vision
idk what to say gl from turko-french
I hope everything works out for you and you guys can stay in Turkey.
I hope so too. We won't know until september
@@AtHomeInTurkeyis your hometown (western modern world) not good enough or better than our country😮? So why Türkiye?
@@haticeararguc7157çok ayıp. Büyüklerine böylemi konuşuyorsun?
Good luck. We will be back for a visit next summer. My husband is from Turkey. We have been thinking of retiring back there in a few years.
If you'll allow me, I'd like to give you the following advice: If you're lying in bed at night again and can't fall asleep because of all the worries, please ask yourself what you're changing by thinking about these things all night long. You don't change anything for the better and you don't change anything for the worse. The only thing you're doing is keeping yourself from sleeping, and that can't be good or beneficial for you.
Just try to block out everything that is bothering you and, if possible, keep everything away from you that creates unrest inside you.
If you take the time to read it, I would like to tell you about my own experience.
I once went for a walk on the beach and had the feeling that the water was calling me. At first I dismissed it as a nonsensical imagination, but after a while the calling became stronger and I was sure that the water was calling me to it.
At some point I couldn't resist this call and went into the water. I played with the waves, jumped over them, swam under them and constantly against them. Until at some point it suddenly became very quiet. I turned around and wanted to go back to shore, but realized that I was in the middle of the sea. I could only just see the tops of the trees from about 2km away. So I was already this far into the open sea. At first I was amazed because just a moment ago I was able to jump over the waves and now I couldn't believe how I could suddenly find myself so far in the sea.
Then I tried to swim slowly and effortlessly back to the shore, but by this point I had already exhausted myself so much that I barely had the strength to swim back.
And then the miracle happened. I'm not a particularly brave person, so it wasn't like I had any composure and wanted to fearlessly swim to shore. But for some reason I felt like I wouldn't be able to make it back, but still I wasn't afraid in the slightest.
I let myself fall and was ready to die.
This may sound unbelievable, but it really was true. I wasn't afraid one bit.
And suddenly I actually had ground under my feet and could stand.
I remained in place for a minute as if petrified and gathered all my strength and as soon as I took a step forward I fell into the water and as I was swimming up I saw that I was standing on a piece of earth that looked like a mountain with a peak led above.
I was amazed and still swam back slowly and with little effort.
But after just a few minutes I ran out of breath again.
Since I had already had three heart attacks, my condition wasn't the best either.
And when I was in danger of drowning again, the sea kept washing me up and forward towards the shore.
It took an eternity until we finally had solid ground under our feet again.
But I couldn't move away from the water for easily half an hour.
From that moment on, I not only have a very special bond with water, but I also learned that you simply shouldn't fear anything.
Don't be afraid, trust in your inner strength and your divinity and nothing can happen to you!
I hope my story can make you think a little differently about one thing or another.
Imagine life is a river.
We are nothing more than little pieces of wood floating on this river.
If we resist, we will be beaten from rock to rock.
But if we trust the water, if we don't feel fear, the river of life will take us past all the rocks and cliffs, unscathed and well protected.
Wow great story. Thank you for taking the trouble to post it.
I had cancer two times (not related) and had to face it head on. Both times I refused medication like chemo. Same effect. No fear. My problem is that I have an adrenalin problem. If that tap opens a few times I does not close. And if it's strong enough one does not sleep anymore. I have to keep myself super chill for a while to have it stop again. So at this point some weeks later is sleep again.
@@AtHomeInTurkey Many thanks for your response.
I can recommend the following to you, but first I have to say that I have no medical background or any medical training, so just a recommendation from me.
I do it like this: about 50g. Mugwort, 50gr. real natural honey and 50 gr. Pour real olive oil into a small container, stir well and store in the refrigerator overnight. Then take a tiny little spoonful every day before breakfast and on an empty stomach, i.e. before you drink water, coffee, tea, etc. and have not eaten anything.
If you like, you can also add 50g. Add dandelions.
I don't think you'll ever have to worry about cancer again after this, nor will you need any medication for it.
But I can also recommend the following really incredibly nice things, especially when it comes to your fears:
1. Every day you stand with bare feet on damp, or even better, really wet and muddy ground.
You just have to make sure that the floor is really pure earth. So no meadow, no sand, no gravel, asphalt, etc. but really wet earth.
2. It is best to start this exercise every day in the first hour of sunrise or in the last hour of sunset. This is so important because the sun emits little or only very weak UV rays during these times and therefore you are not at risk of blindness or damage to your eyesight. And during these two times you just look directly at the sun for about 5-10 seconds. You increase these times by another 5-10 seconds each time.
Of course, you can do this exercise several times a day.
While you look at the sun, you must try, like in meditation, to let the sun consciously and directly into your third eye, i.e. into your pineal gland.
Everything we eat as food needs 4 specific elements in order to be able to become what we later eat as food.
And by doing the exercise described above daily or regularly, you connect directly and unfiltered with the energy of our Mother Earth.
The consequences of these regular exercises are: You gradually lose the “ability” to feel fear!
This is not a specific fear such as fear of illness, fear of social or financial losses, fear of death... but really all types and forms of fears.
Over time you simply become absolutely unresponsive to fears of any kind.
After about 2-3 weeks you will notice that you need up to 30% less food, but you feel neither hungry, tired or drained, but rather healthy and alert. You feel fitter, healthier, more energetic and simply cheerful.
After 3-6 months, however, the fantastic begins.
After this time, depending on how consciously you can do this exercise, you will begin to be able to actually see the auras of those around you!
That's no joke!
You look at complete strangers that you have never seen or spoken to before and you immediately know what kind of nature and character they have.
This exercise doesn't cost you anything, you don't have to buy anything, acquire anything, and you don't have to do any seminars or anything like that.
And, if you have trouble standing on your feet for long periods of time, you can even do this exercise while sitting.
For example, I cleared a piece of meadow in my garden, weighed down the earth about 10cm deep with a small spade so that my feet were completely covered with wet earth and sat down in front of it on a small chair and spent about 20-30 minutes .
The earth not only supplies us with the energy we desperately need, but also literally sucks everything negative out of us.
You just have to be able to consciously engage with it.
Like meditation. If you can't open up to it, it's no use.
As I said, I must expressly say that I have no medical background and that these recommendations from me are purely personal recommendations.
I would be happy to hear from you again.
Best wishes and all the best to you and your husband, health and a beautiful life!
@@tengri70 All very much in the line of thinking that I live by for many years now. Thanks!
Does not surprise me. You need to settle somewhere which is going to be your side when SHTF/economic times get difficult. Does the former Ottoman empire really sound like that sort of place?
Yes it does. And will be for many.
Turkiye will be a lot safer than most places in the so-called Western world when the SHTF as they say imo
It’s a shame as a turk living outside of turkey seeing you like this I mean so much millions of people they took in turkey around 5million or more. But only you to much their
Why don’t you guys apply for Turkish Citizenship.
In quick: I will lose my Dutch passport and Ken will lose the small income he has.
Good report, I have to say. Biggest mistake, you are not married in Netherlands, if you are poor, things are easy.
So true. But getting married in Holland was not possible at the time. We both did not live there. And that made it a paperwork nightmare.
@@AtHomeInTurkey I am Dutch myself, even if my wife (but she has a Dutch passport by now (for convenience)) is not orignially from here, but in my experience things are so incredibly easy in the Netherlands (even if expensive (if you have some money)). Bureacracy is effective (and not corrupt at all). We lived in Netherlands, UK, Luxembourg and now in Turkey.
But if no money, Netherlands is very supporting (eg my sister got a subsidy for energy of EUR 1800 (which I think outrageous (but this is another matter))
For a married caretaker there is a massive bonus (like a nurse) (I also do not agree with the massive level)
Bottom line if one of the spouses is Dutch, in my view it really should be easy to move there (if you want to is a different matter).
I am not easy with walking myself, but if your husband is Dutch, choose where you want to live, bring him in a wheelchair and go to City Hall (just my view). Dutch people tend to speak English quite well.
@@christiaanjansen9800 I hate paying high taxes so I also don't use the social systems like for 'Mantelzorg'
I left Holland for a reason, mainly the lack of nature, and will not go back if I don't have to. But you are right, it's well organized. We are looking into other countries at the moment. Follow up video coming up.
Go to my native Bosnia and Hercegovina… or Albania 🇦🇱
It's on the list to check out. First sort things here. I hope we can stay. Very rural here and lots of nature. All you need to survive any crisis.
Move to spain or greek iseland.
If we cant stay we will look into a lot of places.
Entry visa wise, entering TR should only be as difficult for you as it is for a Turk to enter your country.
Is it the case?
Residence permit wise, staying in TR should only be as difficult for you as it is for a Turk to live in your country.
Is it the case?
Can Turks enter YOUR country and reside there without visa and permit obstacles?
I hear you and can agree with it. But, they should have refused me 20 years ago. Don't do it after someone has given up everything to be here.
@@AtHomeInTurkeyI agree! It seems to be yet another example of the erratic actions of the one-man rule they dug themselves into. Stay well and safe.
@@AtHomeInTurkey Yes, you have Right for this. They should have done it 20 years ago, this only shows the weakness of the Turkish country, forgetting that there are Turkish people living in Germany and Europe. Feeling foreign in other countries is normal, but we are all brothers and sisters in this world, we come from the same Father and Mother, this world does not belong to people and nations, this world together with the entire universe belongs only to God and no one else ... Why would someone say to me: get out of my country, this is not your country? ... Haaa ???
The olive press looks too dangerous to be entering 🤷🏻♂️
Haha, yes it does. It's old. Health and safety where not a thing back in the day.
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Very interesting, but not my kind of adventure.
A quick Look at the rules you described, looks like you’ll be ok but Ken need to do some work based on points 1, 5, & 8. I’m sure there’ll be a way out and it all comes down to $. It’s understandable that the gov releases those new rules considering the economic & finance issues they’re facing but it’s the same gov that causes these issues imo, ie bad management. I’ve been puzzled by how the Turkish people managed the inflation pressure over the years. It’s still a mystery to me. Luckily Turkiye is situated on a great land rich in resources with hardworking & resilient people.
Anyway may God and Allah bless you, Ken & Timo and the Turkish people.❤
Thanks! And yes I also don't understand how the people here cope. And still think nothing can be done about it. If we can keep Ken in on medical grounds all will be well. Fingers crossed.
@@AtHomeInTurkeythere’re several factors contributing to the inflation in the last decades, including monetary, currency & economy (both local & global), I guess migrants/ refugees are the easy targets to blame. 😢
Hopefully Ken will get to stay on the medical grounds. Fingers crossed 🤞
Just tell turkey you are Syrian,.then you'll stay and get state benefit 😂
I wish Turkey can make exceptions for the elderly to live
That would be nice indeed
Turkiye has many benefits for their own elder people…
Try Mexico!
Seems a great option but somehow I just have my roots here in this part of the world.
Leave while you can still make it out alive.
That's a bit harsh. But i understand where the thinking comes from. Many places in the same situation at this point.
@@AtHomeInTurkey Bill Warner videos educated me a good while back as to what it is all about, have never visited such a place and am not anxious to do so
How long have you lived in Türkiye And you can’t speak Turkish fluently? Seriously
Around the same time most Turkish women lived in Germany and they can't speak a word in German.
If you do not work or have a Turkish partner you simply do not talk enough Turkish to become fluent. I know only a few that do. And if you keep yourself to yourself like me you never will. I can get around without a problem but not on all subjects.
Or in America 🇺🇸 they just don’t speak English and the funny part is that in some cities actually you need to know Spanish to get around hahhahaha. It’s hilarious! I’m Colombian btw lmarried to a Turk living in 🇺🇸
Pensioners, elderly and sick people of countries that do not even give tourist visas to Turks live like kings with little money in Turkey!
They cannot live in their country with the same money!
Turkey does not have to carry cost of these old and sick people!
Regarding the Syrian immigrants, Europe did not keep any of its promises, and Turkey had to take care of all the immigrants! And Turkiye cannot take care of the old and sick people of the West!
Equality between countries is essential.
I agree with you for most part. And don't worry. Turkey does not take care of the expats and other Europeans. We pay for every year we are here, have to give proof of health insurance and have to have a house in our name to live in. Plus we have to show more income than minimum wage to be able to stay. And hey, if they don't want us they should have refused us when we came and not after we gave up everything to start a new life here. I do understand the immigration problems but this is not the way.
Madam, I can comprehend your emotions given the current circumstances you are facing. However, what baffles me is that after all these years of residence in the country, much of your communication, as you've mentioned, remains non-verbal. I believe that demonstrating a higher level of societal integration might have elicited a more favorable response from the authorities. Anyways I wish you luck.
I can see your point. But communicating over the phone remains to be difficult. Plus the technical communication about a car is not my best subject. For the rest I do fine with my Turkish. But without a Turkish partner of job (We are not allowed to work) I simply do not encounter enough Turkish. I keep myself to myself live remote and have little social life. This is how I want it to be, but it won't bring me a better understanding of the Turkish language.
Where is this place? Nature is good, but the food is full of chemicals. Especially vegetables carry massive amounts of pesticides and nasty hormones. How los turcos drive around in cars is also annoying and poses life risk on a daily basis. I don't understand why would anyone in their right mind would retire in Turkey.😂
Nature here is still as it should be. We don't have any left in western Europe. And village life stole my hart.
You stay where you are.
Enjoy overpriced carcinogenics.
GOOD BYE...DONT THE DOOR HIT YOU IN THE ASS ON YOUR WAY OUT
You shouldnt be their anyway ' go home
There not “ their”
A Bit harsh Terence, maybe countries like the UK and Germany that host hundreds of thousands of Turkish people should take a similar approach???????
The Guy did say in an earlier comment that he missed quite a bit of schooling........which tbf is fairly obvious anyway 😂@@frederickmuhlbauer9477
Dear people this wonderful country is not yours! İts our homeland and visitors has to RESPECT what the turkish gouverment say or do!!! WE ARE NOT JOHANNESBOURG/AFRİKA WHERE PEOPLE COME FROM FAR AWAY AND TOOK THERE COUNTRY AWAY AND LİVE A SEPERATE LİFE WİTH ARROGANCE AND İGNORANCE AND
JUDGE US İN ALL KİND OF THİNGS OR SAY ANYTHİNG BAD TO US! We are not slaves we are bravehearts😉! Iam sure our Gouverment do the right thing! if someone have problem with that or with the turkish politic they can leave our homeland, there are so many other countries around you, find a much better place and have fun! Kimseye ihtiyacımız yok hem kalın hem Türkiyeyi daima kötüleyin suçlu görün yada gösterin tepeden bakın, birde yargılayın yada başka birşey buna mecburiyetimiz var mı ya? Edep ya hu! Saygılar...
Adamlar Türkiyedeki bürokrasinin saçmalığını ortaya koymuş 10 milyon surisi Afganı nijeryalısı nepallisi teröristi mafyası hiç bir kanuna yasaya takılmadan yıllarca kaçak kalıyor çalışıyor sonrada gümrük memuruna üç kuruş atıp temize çıkıyor ama yasal yolla kalmaya çalışan çevreye bir zararı olmayan insanlara saçma zorluklar çıkartılıyor hükumet ülkeyi çok düşünüyorsa önce bir sürü bela herifleri temizlesin alman mafyası burda ortadoğu Taşdevri Taliban teröristi burda uzak doğulu seks işçisi burda hergün olay çıkaran surisi burda türkiye için bu videodaki kişilermi tehlike arz ediyor ?
Thank you for this great response. I do see the reason for the new rules but make them work for the people that want to enter after the rule. That would be fair.
Ditt sätt att skriva tyder på att du har mycket hat inom dig, och att du är så avundsjuk på allt och alla. Den här kvinnan har inte fått något av Turkiska staten!!!!! Istället för att sitta och skriva hat text ta och städa lite i ditt olyckliga liv.
Hakikaten de edep ya hu! Bu kadının tek bir kez bile Türkiye'yi kötüleyip suçladığını, tepeden baktığını vs gördünüz mü? Tek bir kez bile! Videolarında ve yorumlarında sürekli paylaştığı bu ülkeyi ne kadar sevdiği ve ne kadar tutkuyla bağlı olduğu.
"I am sure our government do the right thing" >> the joke of the century.
Why you mention Johannesburg? I don't understand the reference.
I love that ancient olive press. That's an amazing find. 🫒🫒🫒
It's sure is. I don't think it will be open much longer. People opt for the more modern machines to get more oil out of there olives.