It seems that all the versions of the Phoenix, 1600, 2000 & 2600 have a practical application. They just perform so well for so many TH-cam channel operators. A few tweaks & practical mods to these craft & their performance is improved expediently. I think your becoming a bit of an authority with the Phoenix series Andrew. Glad you post your adaptations & sloping results here. It's inspiring.
So pleased to find your video. I have had a Phoenix stored in the rafters for a few years now. Thinking about learning to slope soar, and you have inspired me! Cheers from Canada 😊
Rainy day going back through the classics. I enjoy that slow cruising,nice clean beach air is just perfect. I’ve been watching the weather and I’m going to visit your W40 again one day.I’ve flown there once before in similar conditions,wind was a bit east from square on,just enough to keep the 1600 aloft most of the time. I remember thinking that I knew why you liked the 2600 and the 2000 so much.
I appreciate how you set up camber/reflex on your throttle. The effect on flight characteristic definitely takes some getting use to, and it differs greatly from one airframe to another. You may eventually discover that to fully take advantage of this flaperon function, a straight (no -dihedrial), symetrical/semisymetrical airfoil works best. I'm not sure how much you have explored this with your LaFish. I personally wasn't experienced enough when I had my LaFish about a year and a half ago. I had to give up on the LaFish for many reasons, but I'm so glad that I discovered slope acrobatics with the Ahi. Anyhow, Thank you for all your videos Andrew. Much Appreciated!
I really enjoyed this video, Andrew. Your catalog of videos is delightful. I've been flying my 2000mm phoenix and recently busted the prop, so instead of spending more money (as little as about $10) on a new prop and spinner assembly, I've been considering sloping her off Hill60 at Port Kembla. I've noticed a few good spots around my neck of the woods (Wollongong), so I'm ripe ready to explore them. As a side note, I loved your video on the Bangood Flybaby... what a gorgeous and scale looking aircraft. Take care, Nick
We have a mountain that we live at the base of, 4800' is our home elevation, the mountain's peak is about 9500' solid granite face, tipped about 65-70%.. I remember watching old school gliders get away from the builder and soar over the top, never to be seen again!
Woohoo, arrived on Friday, took it out today. Pretty heavy winds, 20kt, flew like a dream. When launching, it just rose out of my hand. 3S 2200 with motor balanced perfectly for me. Confused to death by the various screws as I was putting it together, but got it figured out! The ESC doesn't have brake set, I don't suppose anybody knows what the magic stick movements are to set it? I can't make out what kind of ESC it is under the battery tray. Thanks again for this recommendation Andrew, I am loving it!
Wow it's awesome how plane can fly so long without any motor! Also, thanks for showing free space in the fuselage under canopy! This is what for i was seeking for TH-cam videos, i consider buying such model of the plane but i was wonder if there will be enough of the space for my electronic modules and FPV! Looks like a lot of the space even with huge LiPo battery compared to my AXN Floater, so it gives me some confidence.
Lovely plane. I got one recently for flat field motor gliding and it is beautiful. Hook a thermal and you can fly forever. And it fits in the car fully rigged.
Good for you that you have a big battery in it. Then you don't have to worry about the battery to go flat when you have problem to get the plane down. It really looks like it loves to stay in the air. :)
Excellent stuff Andrew, flew like a dream. I've just recently tried slope soaring for the first time and really enjoyed it. I think I'll stick with a powered model for now to get me out of trouble.
Hi Andrew, Greetings from the beach in California in the USA! What EXPO are you using in your Phoenix 1600 and the 2000? Ail 60%, Elev 60% and the rudder ?? Also, which servo is bigger for the rudder or Elv? I think you said 60% on rudder and elevator? I ended up with two 1600s and two 2000s A friend gave me a 2000 V1, it flew three times in 2014 and he had a bad landing and broke the motor shaft and it hung in his shop forever. He said if I wanted it I could have it! I just had to buy a new motor up from the stock 850KV to 1050KV With a 60 amp ESC and an 1800 4S, when you head into stronger head wind it just goes!! So I ended up with a 2000 V1 and a V2, than a 1600 V1 and V2 Please let me know if you can, I fly a lot of slope and I made my 1600 V1 exactly like yours, I even like your paint job it is really easy to see Thank you, have a great weekend and all your videos! Daniel
Extremely envious, that blow moulded fuse is a lot more rigid than my foam fuse Radian Pro. If I bring home any more planes, I will not be very popular.
I seem to have great trouble doing that......crashing. Boring, usually bring them home in one piece. Was trained tooo well. Lol. “The art of model flying is being able to aim your plane at Mother Earth, and missing”.
Like yours, I’ll be making it a sloper only, so motor not an issue. I’ve got the ST Arcus M for motor duties, but it’s not great at slope soaring at the sites I have access to unfortunately.
Well, mine arrived and spent an hour setting it up, popped out to try it in the field across the road and it flew fantastically from the off. Couldn’t be happier with your recommendation. Even the motor/prop seems good, and I was pleased to see the PNF version I got also had flap servos installed. I might leave the motor in now, always good for emergency lift when sloping I suppose! I think I’m going to have to pick up the 2000 now as well, they might be all the planes I ever need! Thanks for the videos Andrew, I really enjoy them.
Beautiful! I wonder, if you got some lead in the spinner it would allow you to use a smaller battery. How much smaller, i have no idea! But it would lower the overall weight for even better slope-osity!!😀
Phoenix gliders never dissapoint.. too bad mine ended up in the bottom of the sea due to a faulty elevator servo (asumed) . I do wonder ..how would the 1600 fly if trimming off the curvy wingtips.. or flattening them ... could be a fantastic cheap aerobatic sloper for those fun windy days? Also in this glider setup it still has room for ballast
It is funny you say that actually. I was thinking while I watched yours... "hmmm I should grab another kit and set it up without the motor...." But weather I will or not. who knows, this one has seen some action.
Thats a good conversion Andrew It flies well because the phoenix is slippery As a light wind alternative to using a 3000 lipo, could the wings be slid backwards about 20mm?
OK it draws between 100mA resting and 200mA full twiddling of the sticks, so average that to 150mA. Using 2500mAH from a 3000mAH LiPo gives about 16.7hrs
Nice! Is it essentially a Evo in the 1600 configuration? Or are there other differences, like tail plane size and what not? That tough fuselage alone is worth the $$$.
Hello andrew love ur channel and subscribe ur channel already..lot of info for rc plane..i wanna ask u this phoenix 1600 what motor suit it the most...the motor came with it was 1400 kv and its already burn out...what motor should i use to fly better
Hi Andrew, I made my wing and it fly well as long I keep it level, when I turn it tends to drift and loose control, this is not a symmetry wing. How can u albise me for my next design
It seems that all the versions of the Phoenix, 1600, 2000 & 2600 have a practical application. They just perform so well for so many TH-cam channel operators. A few tweaks & practical mods to these craft & their performance is improved expediently. I think your becoming a bit of an authority with the Phoenix series Andrew. Glad you post your adaptations & sloping results here. It's inspiring.
Yes I agree. Great products, and they keep improving them too
Give me an hour of that, with just the sound of the sea. Beautiful!
It's my happy place
So pleased to find your video. I have had a Phoenix stored in the rafters for a few years now. Thinking about learning to slope soar, and you have inspired me! Cheers from Canada 😊
Oh yes, it's the perfect sloper.
Rainy day going back through the classics. I enjoy that slow cruising,nice clean beach air is just perfect. I’ve been watching the weather and I’m going to visit your W40 again one day.I’ve flown there once before in similar conditions,wind was a bit east from square on,just enough to keep the 1600 aloft most of the time. I remember thinking that I knew why you liked the 2600 and the 2000 so much.
Might see you there
You've really found the secret to enjoying wind..
Another great build Andrew, very inspiring. Thanks.
Ha, I learned early that I had to use the wind or stay home.
Made me think of a Seagull just floating around in the breezes. Excellent!
I appreciate how you set up camber/reflex on your throttle. The effect on flight characteristic definitely takes some getting use to, and it differs greatly from one airframe to another. You may eventually discover that to fully take advantage of this flaperon function, a straight (no -dihedrial), symetrical/semisymetrical airfoil works best. I'm not sure how much you have explored this with your LaFish. I personally wasn't experienced enough when I had my LaFish about a year and a half ago. I had to give up on the LaFish for many reasons, but I'm so glad that I discovered slope acrobatics with the Ahi. Anyhow, Thank you for all your videos Andrew. Much Appreciated!
Thanks Ron, still much to learn
I really enjoyed this video, Andrew. Your catalog of videos is delightful. I've been flying my 2000mm phoenix and recently busted the prop, so instead of spending more money (as little as about $10) on a new prop and spinner assembly, I've been considering sloping her off Hill60 at Port Kembla. I've noticed a few good spots around my neck of the woods (Wollongong), so I'm ripe ready to explore them.
As a side note, I loved your video on the Bangood Flybaby... what a gorgeous and scale looking aircraft.
Take care,
Nick
Perfect sloper. Yes the Flybaby is a sweet oldster
We have a mountain that we live at the base of, 4800' is our home elevation, the mountain's peak is about 9500' solid granite face, tipped about 65-70%.. I remember watching old school gliders get away from the builder and soar over the top, never to be seen again!
Wow, what a site. Sounds spectacular Mike
Hi Andrew. Pure elegance of the plane & your flying skills. Awesome.
Thanks Tiger, mainly the plane
One of my favourites, great value for money.
Sooooo....smooth ;-) Great flight demo of that glider ;-) Happy Sloping!
Yep it's a sweetie
Very nice video, good to see they fly well with so little wind.
Yes it's a wonderful sloper in all conditions
ahhhh beautiful aircraft and nicely put together. A perfect slope soarer . Happy Flying
Yes it is fit for purpose
I’ve been looking at that one for ages, looks like a nice plane :) be able to fly all day with 3000mah :)
Woohoo, arrived on Friday, took it out today. Pretty heavy winds, 20kt, flew like a dream. When launching, it just rose out of my hand. 3S 2200 with motor balanced perfectly for me. Confused to death by the various screws as I was putting it together, but got it figured out! The ESC doesn't have brake set, I don't suppose anybody knows what the magic stick movements are to set it? I can't make out what kind of ESC it is under the battery tray. Thanks again for this recommendation Andrew, I am loving it!
Great stuff man. Try the method in this vid for ESC brake setting - th-cam.com/video/UaLYmQETrUg/w-d-xo.html
Wow it's awesome how plane can fly so long without any motor! Also, thanks for showing free space in the fuselage under canopy! This is what for i was seeking for TH-cam videos, i consider buying such model of the plane but i was wonder if there will be enough of the space for my electronic modules and FPV! Looks like a lot of the space even with huge LiPo battery compared to my AXN Floater, so it gives me some confidence.
My pleasure!
Look lovely, very gentle.
Lovely plane. I got one recently for flat field motor gliding and it is beautiful. Hook a thermal and you can fly forever. And it fits in the car fully rigged.
Yes my buddies seem to like it for normal flying.
Good for you that you have a big battery in it. Then you don't have to worry about the battery to go flat when you have problem to get the plane down. It really looks like it loves to stay in the air. :)
I will have to work out the possible flight time, might be days instead of minutes!
Excellent stuff Andrew, flew like a dream. I've just recently tried slope soaring for the first time and really enjoyed it. I think I'll stick with a powered model for now to get me out of trouble.
Nice one Davie. But you have to commit one day!
Great flight! Would love to try sloping, but its over a hour awat to the closest slope. I love the pheonix line!
Yes they are better than the price
Great looking plane. Just ordered one for my self
Excellent, it is a winner
Fabulous. Pure envy from me!!!!!
loved the footage so much I have just ordered one from hobby king (as my old axn has reached the end of its life)
Excellent, chuck it off your slope!
Such a nice and beutifull flying
Hi Andrew,
Greetings from the beach in California in the USA!
What EXPO are you using in your Phoenix 1600 and the 2000?
Ail 60%, Elev 60% and the rudder ??
Also, which servo is bigger for the rudder or Elv?
I think you said 60% on rudder and elevator?
I ended up with two 1600s and two 2000s
A friend gave me a 2000 V1, it flew three times in 2014 and he had a bad landing and broke the motor shaft and it hung in his shop forever. He said if I wanted it I could have it!
I just had to buy a new motor up from the stock 850KV to 1050KV With a 60 amp ESC and an 1800 4S, when you head into stronger head wind it just goes!!
So I ended up with a 2000 V1 and a V2, than a 1600 V1 and V2
Please let me know if you can, I fly a lot of slope and I made my 1600 V1 exactly like yours, I even like your paint job it is really easy to see
Thank you, have a great weekend and all your videos!
Daniel
Greetings. 50 expo for ailerons an elevator on the 1600. I added more elevator area and big throws. No expo on the 2000.
Looks good to watch, nice and smooth! haha I liked the hand sticking out trying to grab it! :-) great vid
Nearly got it
Extremely envious, that blow moulded fuse is a lot more rigid than my foam fuse Radian Pro.
If I bring home any more planes, I will not be very popular.
Just have to crash an older one
I seem to have great trouble doing that......crashing.
Boring, usually bring them home in one piece. Was trained tooo well. Lol.
“The art of model flying is being able to aim your plane at Mother Earth, and missing”.
Thanks for the video Andrew, not for the first time though, you’ve cost me some money! My 1600 should be here ready in time for the weekend...
Haha, it's a ripper. No hesitations recommending it. Although I hear the motor version needs bigger air scoops to cool the motor.
Like yours, I’ll be making it a sloper only, so motor not an issue. I’ve got the ST Arcus M for motor duties, but it’s not great at slope soaring at the sites I have access to unfortunately.
Well, mine arrived and spent an hour setting it up, popped out to try it in the field across the road and it flew fantastically from the off. Couldn’t be happier with your recommendation. Even the motor/prop seems good, and I was pleased to see the PNF version I got also had flap servos installed. I might leave the motor in now, always good for emergency lift when sloping I suppose! I think I’m going to have to pick up the 2000 now as well, they might be all the planes I ever need! Thanks for the videos Andrew, I really enjoy them.
I had one years ago. Installed a edf on it 🙂
Haha, I think the cold got to you.
Funny how the box says "do not fly in strong winds" lol
Haha, it loves strong wind
Beautiful! I wonder, if you got some lead in the spinner it would allow you to use a smaller battery. How much smaller, i have no idea! But it would lower the overall weight for even better slope-osity!!😀
Yes of course, lead spinner would allow the lightest all up weight weight, but lighter is not necessarily better with slopers.
Phoenix gliders never dissapoint.. too bad mine ended up in the bottom of the sea due to a faulty elevator servo (asumed) .
I do wonder ..how would the 1600 fly if trimming off the curvy wingtips.. or flattening them ... could be a fantastic cheap aerobatic sloper for those fun windy days?
Also in this glider setup it still has room for ballast
Oh no! I have seen one ditched in the sea here too. Elevator push rod not reconnected!
1600mm for the win!
You guys were right, it is the perfect sloper. Just have to wean you off the motor
It is funny you say that actually. I was thinking while I watched yours... "hmmm I should grab another kit and set it up without the motor...." But weather I will or not. who knows, this one has seen some action.
Thats a good conversion Andrew
It flies well because the phoenix is slippery
As a light wind alternative to using a 3000 lipo, could the wings be slid backwards about 20mm?
Would have to slice out some foam on the wing but yes that would work
I have a phoenix 1600 that has been a right headache with its motors so planning to just lose the motor and do this, pure slope with it
Good move
It's a shame you can't just buy the 1.6 wing. It doesn't loose out much wing area compared with the 2000 as it has a less tapered wing than the PK2
You can sometimes buy the wing as a spare part, but it's usually two thirds of the price of the complete glider!
That’s it. I’m getting one!
Good!
Would you recommend this for a first time sloper? Seems to fly well. Nice flying!
Definitely, good choice
Wery gentle flying.
Are you still using the FrSky X-lite transmitter?
Yes X-Lite for this flight. Great for slopers
Thanks
Very tempting. $57 with free shipping
It is one of those "just right" planes. Along with the 2000 it has the magic ability to slope in light winds due to it's momentum.
$57 Is that usd? It says $84 for me
Mine was AUD$77
@@Len02013 it was $62 USD from the USA warehouse than after I logged in it went down to $57.
very nice little run. too bad it started raining. i know the next part would be: `lets put a camera on it` :-) next time then.
As soon as the weather permits!
Flies beautifully Andrew, I have the 2000 version...Have you worked out how long it will stay up on that 3000mah Lipo yet..?...lol.
I'll fit a current sensor for the next flight, my guess is 3 to 5hrs
Lol....Id say it will be a lot longer than that....:)
OK it draws between 100mA resting and 200mA full twiddling of the sticks, so average that to 150mA. Using 2500mAH from a 3000mAH LiPo gives about 16.7hrs
Nice! Is it essentially a Evo in the 1600 configuration? Or are there other differences, like tail plane size and what not? That tough fuselage alone is worth the $$$.
Not the same, I think the wing has more area and flaps on this one, rudder size and shape is different.
CofG 65-70mm from the leading edge?
Yes correct
Hello andrew love ur channel and subscribe ur channel already..lot of info for rc plane..i wanna ask u this phoenix 1600 what motor suit it the most...the motor came with it was 1400 kv and its already burn out...what motor should i use to fly better
Everyone says you need bigger air scoops for cooling on this model. I'll have to ask my buddies what motor they use.
Ok I'll be waiting for ur answer thanks
Hi Andrew, I made my wing and it fly well as long I keep it level, when I turn it tends to drift and loose control, this is not a symmetry wing. How can u albise me for my next design
More vertical fins?
It has it, I install wing tips like 4inch hight
Well at least you'll only need the one battery for the day.
And the next day I'm guessing
Andrew Newton Let is know. ;-)
it acted like a kid with a new bicycle... just didn't want to come in!
Hehe yes
nope