the Challenger is just not trying to compete with the mustang. the mustang is more of a proper sports car now days. the Challenger is the only true blue muscle car made today.
Challengers are far better looking cars, better interior and offers a far better driving experience especially during long distance driving than Mustangs period.
***** Hey Moron, get your facts straight. The Mustang Shelby GT 500 is 662 hp and it is also lighter. Learn before you type some shit. Makes you look stupid. And um, if you consider a man in his 40s to be a kid then you must be a grandpa you douche. The GT is 435 hp not 436.
Austin Phelan If you think ANY American car is designed and engineered by Americans alone then you have a lot to learn my man. Also, fyi, the MUSTANG has never been discontinued unlike your Charger and unlike Camaro's. Here ya go---The Bail out crisis in the United States is mainly defined by the government rescue of both General Motors and Chrysler. Ford didn't need, and didn't receive any funds, it also didn't want its competition to get the upper hand thanks to the government bailout. Enough Said....
You must be a woman or not a car person because the mustang doesn't look like any other car at all it's completely new so how can you even say it looks similar. Plus the challenger has been the same exact model year after year with no changes except internally
maybe confused to ordinary people ..not car people ....btw car lover's pick mustang and camaro ....these cars are about performance wich the Dodge has lil of
I think the Challenger is a better platform. It's a real muscle car with its big heavy ass and ability to shred the tires off using up to 707 HP. It doesn't need a fancy feature that locks up the front wheels like the Mustang has. You get more car and a better ride for your money.
ps31871 Wait for it why? So it can come with a a flat plane V8 with balancing problems and MAYBE 720 HP? Not impressed. Challenger is a Muscle car and you can't compare it to the Mustang or the Camero.
Patrick Austin balancing problems? haha probably it has better balancing that that shit fat cat! have you seen the videos of the svt 2016 in the nurburgring? looks like it can handle better than the hello kitty challenger!
ps31871 I'm talking about the balancing of the engine. Of course the GT350 is going to be a good handler but that doesn't mean the powertrain is going to be what you think it is.
When the mustang , camaro, and challenger came out in their " retro " skins... The goal was to make it as close to the original as possible: looks, horsepower of the old version with the convenience of today's tech and picky buyers... Only one has kept that... The Challenger Mustang will change the look of a car after they get the opinion of a handful of 16 y/o girls Camaro , a handful of Guido's hanging out on 8 mile... But not Challenger... Dodge knows what you want in a muscle car...retro or otherwise... Challenger FTW
I am a Mopar guy. I’ve only owned Dodge. I currently drive a Charger and have owned 2 Chargers and a Challenger. That being said todays Mustang looks great. I think they made an amazing looking car.
At $38,495. the Challenger RT Scatpack with it's 485HP engine not only beats the 2015 GT Mustang and 2015 Camaro SS in the 1/4 mile drag race (which is what muscle cars are for) it also seats 5 people with plenty of trunk room and the best interior materials. Why would anyone buy anything else??? ;o)
if by compleat fail u mean faster,lighter,cheaper,beter handling,gripier,more economical than ye it is plus u beter het that 392 cuz its apart hell kitty only one that can keep up with stang in the straight
***** motortrend compared all 3. Camaro challenger and the rt with scat pack 392. Yes it was faster in a straight line and the Mustang cost like 7k more.
It's the under dog just like the F150 yet Ford murders both markets. They just wanna see em go down with an L. But I agree with you. Edmunds is always biased and makes stupid rules to declare winners as you just saw here. Edmunds videos do that to all the cars that are clearly the peoples choice. It's weird. I really want to unsubscribe but I love cars. Lol
sweetcheels Underdog?..Mustang hah! those two words should never be in the same sentence it has always dominated the market. no way can a mustang be considered a under dog. And Im more of a F150 guy over GM, but Chevy + GMC trucks together out sell Ford. thats the only way Ford gets away with saying they have the number one selling truck. If you want to go Underdog Its Dodge. The Challenger is the current Underdog destroying the competition in performance. and they said mustang wins in looks?… yeah right I like the last gen mustangs they look killer but the New one has the be the ugliest pos on the market there is no way they can compare it to the gorgeous curves of the Challenger.
moparjoel1 why should it be fair for GMC and Chevy to claim the title for selling the same truck pretty much. Of course 1+1=2 meaning both companies added beats one. As far as the Stang, I didn't mean it was literally the under dog but more so an under dog when it comes to the expectation to it to lose in every video IT SEEMS. Like comparison videos will always say something about the Stang that's nice then follow it by a huge but or give the other company a 2 up. That was my observation. Lol
It's an entire second faster 0-60. It handles corners waaay better than a Challenger. In my opinion it looks 10x better because the challenger has looked the same for the past 10 years. My dad has a 2015 Challenger scat pack with almost 500 horsepower and I pull on him in my 2013 mustang gt. And his cost almost $20,000 more.
CHALLENGER ! easy choice. It's a exact copy of the old one back in the 70's. And you get a 707HP for 70000$.. and in my opinion.. the horsepowers always comes before comfort!
Mustang boys will never change. A big reason I sold my old Fox. The R/T Challenger has never been a max effort racer. They've added the Scat Pack to bridge the gap between the RT and SRT cars. It's faster than the GT. And the GTs on the lot down the street from me are ALL more expensive than the Scat Packs are going for next door. The Challenger is a mans car that has a real life with a family. The Mustang is for the single guy with no family.
Real man with a family would have just ponied up and just got an SRT8 Jeep or a CTSV.... Yet, just to be clear.... The Challenger Scat Pack STARTS at 38,000... Quit looking at the used section in the Dodge dealers man. That or Dodge can't move any of those damn things off the lot so they're discounting them heavily.
A loaded Scat Pack is 44k. I've seen cloth seat GTs for 44k. Mark up maybe. The Scat Packs are all gone for this year until the Chargers this spring. And I have a bug as SUV already. It's a real 4x4 that I do hard stuff in. I don't want a SRT Jeep and sure as hell don't want a Caddy.
***** If you saw a Cloth seat GT go for 44k I PROMISE you it had recaros. My 15GT had every option in the book( minus Recaros)... and it came out to 43k. (6MT)
LMAO. Yanelis, if you're buying a car to get tail you've got problems. I'm 42, my wife is 32. I guarantee you she's hotter than most everyone's girl here. I didn't get her with money or a car. But good luck with that.
Justin Carneiro Not necessarily the brand new LT1 in the corvette is OHV and it's plenty modern. They just need to add direct injection to the challenger and some more advanced ignition timing. Then use the new 8 speed transmission to offset the fuel efficiency problems that would generate.
This was dumb. The Mustang has changed it's looks SO many times.. You end up liking a body style finally.. then Ford changes it again.. The Challenger has done very little to change the way it looks. Same body shape since it started. Who knows.. maybe in a few years it'll change a little. But it won't be as much as the Mustang.
I'm going to be honest and say that I owned three mustangs before I finally bought my 2015 Challenger. Reason? Just too many soccer moms, young boys and young girls drive Mustangs. That coupled with which I agree with too now is that the 15 Challenger just looks like a MUSCLE car which the new Mustang does not. Don't get me wrong the new Mustang looks ok but many agree that it's just a beefed up Fusion. Challenger wins hands down in the new body styling. Camaro isn't even in the conversation. That 15 Camaro is just ugly now, imo.
I'm just glad to hear American cars being talked about again. Dodge, Ford, and Chevrolet doesn't matter I rather see all 3 of those running down the road vs in a museum.
they're both nice. I like the challenger's room. But its not fair to compare a 435hp car to a 375hp car for performance. I think Dodge has a lot of room with the base hemi that they aren't taking advantage of for some reason.
I have test drove both of them, but ended up with the Challenger. There are some things I like about the Mustangs over the Challenger and vice versa. The Mustang is a more "sheek" car to me. It is smaller and drives very light (almost like a fusion on steriods and crack because its VERY FAST) however, the challenger is slightly bigger (inside and out) and drives smoother. It has a more masculine and classic look. Either one is a good choice.
1. Mustang, b/c there's a convertible. 2. Challenger, b/c of dumb foot operated parking brake. 49. Root canal. 86. Camaro, it's better than the Spark, not by much.
Despite the Mustang being faster and lighter than the Challenger R/T, esp with only the 5.7L, the new Mustang GT is by far one of the most boring cars I have ever driven. Whereas even with the 5.7L when you mash on that pedal you feel like you are giving the car a purpose and you are in control of the fun. The Mustang, you mash on the pedal and it seems to just go "oh, well, I guess if I have to" and you start to steadily accelerate, no sudden bursts of speed or anything. I ended up going with an R/T scat pack and the 6.4L in plum crazy purple and smiles per gallon this car gets is something I bet even the GT350R would struggle to achieve, though I've not driven one of those.
+steve mcmillan it depends, a challenger scat pack or any with the 6.4l automatic is slightly faster, the manual is a little bit slower. They are so close though I wouldn't care about it. To me it's which offers the better driving experience and is more fun to drive. That is by far a scat pack with a manual, which is why I got one. Heck, it's slower than my C6 Corvette but it's about 100x more fun.
+Z31Turbo i'm just saying that in every video i see challengers smoke mustangs, and they are ful as hell to drive, especially on long back roads where you can floor it.
That's why I got a Challenger: the looks. It looks like a bad-ass car from the '70s...a true muscle car body. The mustang is going toward a wimpy coupe look and has lost its style it used to have; the same mistake they made for twenty-five years between 1979 and 2004.
+Tracey Lee Yea, it almost looks like it, but way more plastic and cheesy-nes. Why not go get an actual '70 challenger? It not only looks nicer, sounds nicer, and is way more interesting, they're a lot more fun.
Khalil TheDevine Google 1970 challenger. If you can't find one for sale that the owner is willing to ship, I'd personally hand you the keys to my '64 Impala that took me 5 minutes to find on craigslist.
For me i think the challenger is the better all around car. My dad bought the same challenger and it is phenomenal. On the other hand my friend has a 2015 mustang gt and is just not satisfied with it. I personally love these kind of cars but honestly they just totally ruined the looks for the 2015 mustang.
Edmunds, I like the head to head comparisons but the wild card is too unbalanced. If you can negate two thirds of the categories' points with one optional feature the comparison is worthless.
The Challenger is a muscle car and the Mustang is a pony car that is now a proper sports car. Pick your poison. I sat in a Challenger and did not like the size of it. I also don't like it's plain body lines although the '15 is marginally better. I do like that it has an 8 speed auto, and the styling choices are many. I drove the Mustang and it just fit for me. The rear seat headroom is the only thing I did't like. Maybe good for kids. I'm older and 90% of the time it's just me and maybe the wife too in our cars. The front seats and legroom in the Ford are excellent and would be fine on a long trip. The Mustang is a real head turner. Ford did an excellent job building a 21st century car that has just enough 1960s styling cues. The Camaro is absolutely horrible in regard to visibility. To me that's a basic need for a daily driver so I disregarded that choice. Compare base V8 models when shopping or else you are comparing apples to oranges. There's always a more expensive model to choose from.
My only real complaint is that I feel the R/T should be closer (performance-wise) to the GT for the price you pay for them. I love how the Challenger looks over the latest Mustang but they are so incredibly inferior performance wise. It's like Dodge said "Let's make it a cruiser that can do well in a drag race.....but not as well as our direct competition. For them we'll make our enthusiasts pay closer to $40k. This is not balanced. There is literally no way to justify this in any logical sense. You want to compare apples to apples etc? I've heard it said that the "R/T is the middle of the pack" option. This cracks me up. It's a base V8...I get that...yet the base V8's from Ford and Chevy are the same through their lineups and still so much more powerful. It seems so incredibly unfair that Dodge enthusiasts have to cough up closer to 40k to truly compete with the low to mid 30k offerings from Ford and Chevy.
Put the GT 5.0 against the Challenger Hellcat since you want to be unfair with the comparison. Challenger RT only has 375hp and the Mustang GT 5.0 has 435hp
Doesn't matter. They are same class vehicles. Not Ford's fault Dodge didn't put enough muscle in their heavier muscle car. If you want to compare a mustang to a Hellcat you would at least have to use a GT350 preferably supercharged.
The wildcard is that it's AVAILABLE with 707 horsepower, I like both don't get me wrong but most challengers are v6 automatics; as for the mustang it may be a similar story but at least there's an equally as affordable turbo 4.
I've been a Ford guy for years... I have owned a dozen different mustangs from 1965, 1970 mach 1, to new mustangs..... gotta tell ya tho... I just bought a 2015 challenger RT in sublime green.... and I LOVE IT
mustang is not a muscle car anymore, it is a sports car. muscle car is about big, heavy, big displacement engine and straight line, not going corners. This host doesn't ever know the definition of a muscle car.
People are driving me nuts talking down that ecoboost 4, the challenger rt featured here has a 0-60 of around 5.2-5.3... The new ecoboost mustang has a 0-60 of around 5.5, its got two less cylinders and its still not that far off from the challengers performance. I'm wanting to place my order on the stang soon but I need a winter car first. The only problem I have with the mustang is that its still being advertised as a muscle car... I think the stang is one of the hottest cars out right now but its too refined and capable, I think its more of a GT car now. If were talking muscle cars the challenger wins hands down
I have been a mustang fan my whole life, I have owned around 20, from 1965, 1970 mach 1. to 2003 cobra... for the first time in my life, i bought a dodge... the challenger RT in sublime green.... and i love it. IMHO the new mustang looks like a ford taurus
Totally incorrect: the mustang is a better car in almost every way. If your really buying a muscle car for its back seat, you need to rethink your priorities.
That makes no sense... Just cause it looks European doesn't mean one should purchase a BMW or Mercedes. That's like saying one should purchase a Tiger, because their cat has Tiger Stripes... Do you realize the cost of owning an American car over European when it comes to maintenance? I would much rather purchase a vehicle that looked European, and pay American cost rather than a European vehicle with that ridiculous European cost.
Well I love the mustangs interior worlds nicer than the Challenger inside and out. The Mustang isn't a muscle car anymore it's a sports car. I can careless about rear seats. I'm the one driving the car. Mustang for me, nicer in every department, more power, better fuel economy, more comfortable ride, better sound system with 12 speakers, it's just better imo.
I think either the R/T Scat Pack or the SRT 392 would be a better competitor to the GT (and would win that competition). The RT Challenger is more of a direct competitor with the camaro RS.
Keep in mind the Challenger Scat Pack is 1.4L larger in displacement and still we are talking a small amount of 0 to 60 and 1/4 mile times. There is still that weight issue though, especially with a bigger engine. So I wouldn't be surprised to see mustangs still holding there own against a scat pack in the quarter mile. I still think it's amazing to see how much power is squeezed out of that small Ford 302 engine. Another thing is the Dodge has 7!!! different challengers to choose from like the sxt, sxt plus, rt, rt plus, rt scat pack, srt 392 and hellcat. Ford right now just has the the 4 cyl, the 6 cyl and the gt for 2015. I'm sure more will come next year.
You bought the wrong RT for this face off. It should have been the 2015 Challenger RT Scat Pack with an automatic transmission. That is the sweet spot model with the most value and performance per dollar. ;o)
As a former Mustang GT owner (2010 Mustang GT) - one of my all time favorite cars of over 50+ cars I've owned in my 48 years - I sold my 2010 in hopes of purchasing a new Stang. I stopped at a Ford dealer to purchase a 2015 and couldn't get past the new Euro look. UGGHHH. You cannot tell a v6 from a GT - other than the GT badge :( Please don't misunderdstand - I am not opposed to new design - I prefer the progression of a car, but the new Mustang is ugly - it looked weak in person - I was so disappointed. On my way home, I passed a Dodge dealer and decided to stop in on a whim (I never even thought of a Challenger before this) to check a Challenger out. As I started the test drive, I have to admit, I was IMPRESSED! I NEVER thought I would like it- I LOVED IT! As a huge Stang fan, I couldn't believe the difference! The best way to describe it: MUSTANG - Quick, nible, fun. CHALLENGER - Raw, Visceral, and muscle. Seemed much better built and heavy in a good way. IF you are in the market at all for this type of car, do yourself a favor and try them both and see. This is a GREAT time in auto history - Muscle car mayhem! Awesome!!!!
I went with a Dodge challenger RT/Plus in Pearl White. I was kind of regreating that I didn't go with the SRT or even a Scat pack but overall I'm happy.
You can get bbk headers, a cat back exhaust, air intake and programmer for the challenger for about 2000 dollars...and you are gonna make about 490hp 510 torque and the crank ..just sayin
i disagree, i like the mustang more, but thats not to say I'm not a fan of the challenger. I'm a fan of both cars, but i think the mustang overall fits my needs and style better.
Test drove both ot these two plus the camaro this past weekend trying to make a decisions on which would be the better buy and I gotta say I was expecting way more from the mustang based of the reviews and videos online.. I honestly wasn't expecting much at all from the challenger but holy fuck it blew my socks off. The roar made me moist. The mustang was just and mere .. meh.. plus I'm 6'1 and the mustang was so sadly to small. While the challenger was roomy and truly comfortable. The camaro on the other hand was just one big plastic mess of an interior. I to plan on having people in my ride so I think I'm going to lay my money on the challenger plus with the scat pack available holy guacamole that's more power then I'll ever need. Pretty much all personal preferences
Enrique Marino I've been driving a 2010 Challenger R/T 5.7 since new. Great looking car but thought about looking at something different. I've owned several Camaro's and Firebirds and the new Camaro sucks royally. The new Mustang 5.0 rode very good but driving position a bit low and a looooong hood. Made me wonder if I would hit the nose when parking. Drove the Chevy SS, I REALLY DO LIKE THE CHEVY SS. It felt nimble like the Mustang and Roomy like the Challenger. If I get a new 15 Challenger it will be a 392 Scatpack Shaker. or an SRT. If you want people to notice you get the Challenger, it makes everything else invisible
***** mustang is definitely faster at the GT level. The scat pack automatic is faster than the manual in the challenger. You also have to remember Ford has BY FAR the most efficient engine. They are doing as much with a 5 liter displacement as dodge is doing with a 6.4 liter displacement. That engine gets significantly more horsepower than the mustang, but because the challenger is so gigantic, the mustang can keep up easily. I've races my.mustang GT (2015) with a fe w of the 6.4 challengers. It is a very, very close race every time. With me winning half the time and him the other half.
johnnieace45 disagree with the looks thing. I have yet to meet in person someone who prefers the looks of a challenger over my mustang. I would agree with you if the 2015 mustang didn't exist. Years prior, yes, challenger was very good looking. As it is now I would say challenger is the ugliest of the three muscles. Camaro and Mustang both do a great job of mixing retro with modern styling. Challenger is simply all retro I think. Not a lot of curves at all and a very underwhelming design. Not a lot of lines and even the interior is meh. Not to say it isn't good looking, it just isn't as refined as camaro or the new mustang.
The R/T does not require premium fuel. The SRT does, I know because I own SRT Challenger. This is not a good match as far as power and suspension. The R/T produces 370hp and the GT has 60hp more hp so its not really fair comparison here. It would be a completely different story if we where comparing an SRT with sport tuned suspension, handling is excellent and refined with 485hp. SRT vs. GT?, game over. So my answer to the question, Mopar all day and night >direct connection< baby
You guys are so wrong because the Mustang overrules the Challenger anytime and anywhere, if you really want a pure showdown in muscle, look at it the speed rating way and the Challenger will come crying.
the challenger requires middle grade gasoline or better. and has a better interior by far. yes its suppose to remind you of the other dodge vehicles but it it still has its own independence.(from 2008-2010 i couldn't say that, but know i can). u can't just take parts from the charger and put it on the challenger other than obvious things. great video.
Ford Mustang GT vs Dodge Challenger R/T: Which Has the Most Muscle?
I'll go for the Challenger!
Challenger all day long
Mopar please
HELLCAT! enough said.
Challenger of course. It is currently the fastest musclecar as well as the most powerful topping out at 707 horsepower.
The new mustangs and Camaros are evolving into sport cars, not really muscle
GraphFlex pony*
GraphFlex they have never been muscle technically.
Ok boomer. Why you such a purist?
I traded my 2013 Mustang for a 2015 Scatpack. I will never go back.
+James Walker i've got a 2014 mustang you bring that scatpack and get your ass spanked !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where do you race? Hope your stang isn't stock.
+Temika Richardson Stock Mustang GT is slower than a Scat Pack in the 1/4 mile.....
My Scatpack does 0-60 in 3.4 seconds at the track with drag radials (supercharged).
James Walker nice
the Challenger is just not trying to compete with the mustang. the mustang is more of a proper sports car now days. the Challenger is the only true blue muscle car made today.
Yeah i like mustang but challenger its so cool with his retrostyle
Challengers are far better looking cars, better interior and offers a far better driving experience especially during long distance driving than Mustangs period.
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Challenger is the true muscle car... End of Discussion!
So a true muscle car is slower, heavier and less hp? lol ok???
*****
Hey Moron, get your facts straight. The Mustang Shelby GT 500 is 662 hp and it is also lighter. Learn before you type some shit. Makes you look stupid. And um, if you consider a man in his 40s to be a kid then you must be a grandpa you douche. The GT is 435 hp not 436.
At least the Challenger was designed and engineered by Americans. Unlike the mustang that was designed in part with other countries!
Austin Phelan
If you think ANY American car is designed and engineered by Americans alone then you have a lot to learn my man. Also, fyi, the MUSTANG has never been discontinued unlike your Charger and unlike Camaro's. Here ya go---The Bail out crisis in the United States is mainly defined by the government rescue of both General Motors and Chrysler. Ford didn't need, and didn't receive any funds, it also didn't want its competition to get the upper hand thanks to the government bailout. Enough Said....
but the mustang is the original
If I had to keep one in my garage for a while I'd prefer the challenger. Just something about it. I'd take it in grey
The mustang, from a distance, could be confused with any number of cars.
You can't say that about the Challenger.
Mustang looks like a fusion
You must be a woman or not a car person because the mustang doesn't look like any other car at all it's completely new so how can you even say it looks similar. Plus the challenger has been the same exact model year after year with no changes except internally
Mc Donalds im a car enthusiast sir, and many people think the musyang looks like a fusion. IT DOES. The challenger keeps it classy and real
+HellaFlyGames your apparently not a car guy ...who are you trying to fool
maybe confused to ordinary people ..not car people ....btw car lover's pick mustang and camaro ....these cars are about performance wich the Dodge has lil of
its an muscle car why would you want back seat drivers anyway i dont even like ppl in my passenger seat
thats true but i had to do it afew times and its comfortable in my challenger
models only in the passenger
Cause your a fucking loser with no friends; family? You must be a kid
I bought a Mustang GT. I love it! but If I had more money I would of got the Scat pack.
I think the Challenger is a better platform. It's a real muscle car with its big heavy ass and ability to shred the tires off using up to 707 HP. It doesn't need a fancy feature that locks up the front wheels like the Mustang has. You get more car and a better ride for your money.
lol just wait for the svt cobra 2016 it will eat that challenger!
ps31871 Wait for it why? So it can come with a a flat plane V8 with balancing problems and MAYBE 720 HP? Not impressed. Challenger is a Muscle car and you can't compare it to the Mustang or the Camero.
Patrick Austin balancing problems? haha probably it has better balancing that that shit fat cat! have you seen the videos of the svt 2016 in the nurburgring? looks like it can handle better than the hello kitty challenger!
ps31871 I'm talking about the balancing of the engine. Of course the GT350 is going to be a good handler but that doesn't mean the powertrain is going to be what you think it is.
Patrick Austin the gt500 makes about 660 hp with some light mood makes almost 700 hp yet you guys get exited to get a challenger with 700 hp haha
When the mustang , camaro, and challenger came out in their " retro " skins... The goal was to make it as close to the original as possible: looks, horsepower of the old version with the convenience of today's tech and picky buyers...
Only one has kept that... The Challenger
Mustang will change the look of a car after they get the opinion of a handful of 16 y/o girls
Camaro , a handful of Guido's hanging out on 8 mile...
But not Challenger...
Dodge knows what you want in a muscle car...retro or otherwise...
Challenger FTW
It keeps the look of old muscle. Old muscle is what true Muscle fans favor. Thus the challenger wins
I am a Mopar guy. I’ve only owned Dodge. I currently drive a Charger and have owned 2 Chargers and a Challenger. That being said todays Mustang looks great. I think they made an amazing looking car.
I have a 2013 Challenger R/T, I love my ride!
I have a challenger RT and would buy it again!
At $38,495. the Challenger RT Scatpack with it's 485HP engine not only beats the 2015 GT Mustang and 2015 Camaro SS in the 1/4 mile drag race (which is what muscle cars are for) it also seats 5 people with plenty of trunk room and the best interior materials. Why would anyone buy anything else??? ;o)
Reliability and handling.
MOPAR OR NO CAR.
Mopar slow car lol
Challenger! a real muscle car ! that mustang looks like fusion sport coupe.
clark kent because it is.
Kal- El that's actually so true lol
I'll take the Challenger over the Mustang any day of the week, any week of the month, any month of the year.
\m/ AngelofDeath \m/ preach it!
The mustang is a complete fail! Challenger all the way! Specially if you get the scat pack with the 392!
if by compleat fail u mean faster,lighter,cheaper,beter handling,gripier,more economical
than ye it is
plus u beter het that 392 cuz its apart hell kitty only one that can keep up with stang in the straight
***** motortrend compared all 3. Camaro challenger and the rt with scat pack 392. Yes it was faster in a straight line and the Mustang cost like 7k more.
Andy Esho whou do u kidding?
u lieing or stupid?
***** go on motor trends site you dumb fuck
***** and go back to school you undecated moron.
dodge wins in my book
challenger all the way!!!!!
Mustang loses every comparison test its in and yet it's the one you see the most in real life
It's the under dog just like the F150 yet Ford murders both markets. They just wanna see em go down with an L. But I agree with you. Edmunds is always biased and makes stupid rules to declare winners as you just saw here. Edmunds videos do that to all the cars that are clearly the peoples choice. It's weird. I really want to unsubscribe but I love cars. Lol
sweetcheels Underdog?..Mustang hah! those two words should never be in the same sentence it has always dominated the market. no way can a mustang be considered a under dog. And Im more of a F150 guy over GM, but Chevy + GMC trucks together out sell Ford. thats the only way Ford gets away with saying they have the number one selling truck. If you want to go Underdog Its Dodge. The Challenger is the current Underdog destroying the competition in performance. and they said mustang wins in looks?… yeah right I like the last gen mustangs they look killer but the New one has the be the ugliest pos on the market there is no way they can compare it to the gorgeous curves of the Challenger.
moparjoel1 why should it be fair for GMC and Chevy to claim the title for selling the same truck pretty much. Of course 1+1=2 meaning both companies added beats one. As far as the Stang, I didn't mean it was literally the under dog but more so an under dog when it comes to the expectation to it to lose in every video IT SEEMS. Like comparison videos will always say something about the Stang that's nice then follow it by a huge but or give the other company a 2 up. That was my observation. Lol
Yea cause every chick and there dog has one
It's an entire second faster 0-60. It handles corners waaay better than a Challenger. In my opinion it looks 10x better because the challenger has looked the same for the past 10 years. My dad has a 2015 Challenger scat pack with almost 500 horsepower and I pull on him in my 2013 mustang gt. And his cost almost $20,000 more.
I'll take the Challenger over a Fusion coupe any day.
I recently test drove both cars and loved the challenger way more, ended up going with a rt
Challenger all the way💪💪🚘
mustang for people that have no friends to ride along or go on a trip.
challengers are the most coolest car ever made
CHALLENGER ! easy choice. It's a exact copy of the old one back in the 70's. And you get a 707HP for 70000$.. and in my opinion.. the horsepowers always comes before comfort!
And it doesn't look like a smart car rip off lol
Mustangs are nice, Challengers are awesome!
I'm getting a challenger when I'm older
Same
*Slap my hand! Slap it now!*
Mustang boys will never change. A big reason I sold my old Fox. The R/T Challenger has never been a max effort racer. They've added the Scat Pack to bridge the gap between the RT and SRT cars. It's faster than the GT. And the GTs on the lot down the street from me are ALL more expensive than the Scat Packs are going for next door.
The Challenger is a mans car that has a real life with a family. The Mustang is for the single guy with no family.
Real man with a family would have just ponied up and just got an SRT8 Jeep or a CTSV....
Yet, just to be clear.... The Challenger Scat Pack STARTS at 38,000... Quit looking at the used section in the Dodge dealers man. That or Dodge can't move any of those damn things off the lot so they're discounting them heavily.
A loaded Scat Pack is 44k. I've seen cloth seat GTs for 44k. Mark up maybe. The Scat Packs are all gone for this year until the Chargers this spring.
And I have a bug as SUV already. It's a real 4x4 that I do hard stuff in. I don't want a SRT Jeep and sure as hell don't want a Caddy.
*****
If you saw a Cloth seat GT go for 44k I PROMISE you it had recaros. My 15GT had every option in the book( minus Recaros)... and it came out to 43k. (6MT)
The mustang is for the man with a hot girlfriend next to him
LMAO. Yanelis, if you're buying a car to get tail you've got problems.
I'm 42, my wife is 32. I guarantee you she's hotter than most everyone's girl here. I didn't get her with money or a car. But good luck with that.
I like the challenger more but woah, only 375hp in 5.7 liters?
It's due to a more basic valve train OHV vs DOHC in the mustang. The challenger makes more torque though.
alexander vick
and its still much slower - and burns more fuel with that
Yeah dodge is going to need to upgrade that to compete with modern design engines
Justin Carneiro Not necessarily the brand new LT1 in the corvette is OHV and it's plenty modern. They just need to add direct injection to the challenger and some more advanced ignition timing. Then use the new 8 speed transmission to offset the fuel efficiency problems that would generate.
I find it funny how the arguments about the best muscle car have way more ad hominems than every other car discussion
I'd buy the Mustang with my head...and I'd buy the Challenger with my heart.
This was dumb. The Mustang has changed it's looks SO many times.. You end up liking a body style finally.. then Ford changes it again.. The Challenger has done very little to change the way it looks. Same body shape since it started. Who knows.. maybe in a few years it'll change a little. But it won't be as much as the Mustang.
When are they gonna start comparing the GT to the SRT’s.. The R/T is to take on the other muscle cars V6’s and 4 cylinders.
I'm going to be honest and say that I owned three mustangs before I finally bought my 2015 Challenger. Reason? Just too many soccer moms, young boys and young girls drive Mustangs. That coupled with which I agree with too now is that the 15 Challenger just looks like a MUSCLE car which the new Mustang does not. Don't get me wrong the new Mustang looks ok but many agree that it's just a beefed up Fusion. Challenger wins hands down in the new body styling. Camaro isn't even in the conversation. That 15 Camaro is just ugly now, imo.
Real men choose the challenger!!!!
I'm just glad to hear American cars being talked about again. Dodge, Ford, and Chevrolet doesn't matter I rather see all 3 of those running down the road vs in a museum.
they're both nice. I like the challenger's room. But its not fair to compare a 435hp car to a 375hp car for performance. I think Dodge has a lot of room with the base hemi that they aren't taking advantage of for some reason.
The R/T does NOT "require" premium fuel...... don't know where they heard that one from.
I have test drove both of them, but ended up with the Challenger. There are some things I like about the Mustangs over the Challenger and vice versa. The Mustang is a more "sheek" car to me. It is smaller and drives very light (almost like a fusion on steriods and crack because its VERY FAST) however, the challenger is slightly bigger (inside and out) and drives smoother. It has a more masculine and classic look. Either one is a good choice.
1. Mustang, b/c there's a convertible.
2. Challenger, b/c of dumb foot operated parking brake.
49. Root canal.
86. Camaro, it's better than the Spark, not by much.
Despite the Mustang being faster and lighter than the Challenger R/T, esp with only the 5.7L, the new Mustang GT is by far one of the most boring cars I have ever driven. Whereas even with the 5.7L when you mash on that pedal you feel like you are giving the car a purpose and you are in control of the fun. The Mustang, you mash on the pedal and it seems to just go "oh, well, I guess if I have to" and you start to steadily accelerate, no sudden bursts of speed or anything. I ended up going with an R/T scat pack and the 6.4L in plum crazy purple and smiles per gallon this car gets is something I bet even the GT350R would struggle to achieve, though I've not driven one of those.
the mustang is not fatser??
+steve mcmillan nope, it's very fast on paper. Just doesn't feel fast or fun, at all.
+Z31Turbo i have only ever seen 1 video out of the hundreds, and hundreds i have watched where a mustang beat the challenger...
+steve mcmillan it depends, a challenger scat pack or any with the 6.4l automatic is slightly faster, the manual is a little bit slower. They are so close though I wouldn't care about it. To me it's which offers the better driving experience and is more fun to drive. That is by far a scat pack with a manual, which is why I got one. Heck, it's slower than my C6 Corvette but it's about 100x more fun.
+Z31Turbo i'm just saying that in every video i see challengers smoke mustangs, and they are ful as hell to drive, especially on long back roads where you can floor it.
Challenger all day long. I want the R/T Shaker
Very hard choice but i would pick the mustang y no camaro though?
I really like both cars but if I really had to pick one the Mustang all the way...😀
right now I Like the looks of the challenger over the mustang aka eurostang.......
That's why I got a Challenger: the looks. It looks like a bad-ass car from the '70s...a true muscle car
body. The mustang is going toward a wimpy coupe look and has lost its style it used to have; the same mistake they made for twenty-five years between 1979 and 2004.
+Tracey Lee Yea, it almost looks like it, but way more plastic and cheesy-nes. Why not go get an actual '70 challenger? It not only looks nicer, sounds nicer, and is way more interesting, they're a lot more fun.
+commando8088 maybe because they're hard to find???
Khalil TheDevine Google 1970 challenger. If you can't find one for sale that the owner is willing to ship, I'd personally hand you the keys to my '64 Impala that took me 5 minutes to find on craigslist.
You can't even call the mustang a muscle car anymore. It's definitely more of a sports car
I rather get the 707 hp challenger hellcat
Who do you think should have won - MUSTANG or CHALLENGER?
I would take a Mustang any day over the Challenger. (1) too heavy (2) too big (3) if you are worried about rear seats but a minivan
Caleb Cissna the fast wanna look like a fusion lost to a good classic
Looking for a car a bit under 30k mark, which one of which model is the best bang for your buck
For me i think the challenger is the better all around car. My dad bought the same challenger and it is phenomenal. On the other hand my friend has a 2015 mustang gt and is just not satisfied with it. I personally love these kind of cars but honestly they just totally ruined the looks for the 2015 mustang.
Edmunds, I like the head to head comparisons but the wild card is too unbalanced. If you can negate two thirds of the categories' points with one optional feature the comparison is worthless.
The Challenger is a muscle car and the Mustang is a pony car that is now a proper sports car. Pick your poison.
I sat in a Challenger and did not like the size of it. I also don't like it's plain body lines although the '15 is marginally better. I do like that it has an 8 speed auto, and the styling choices are many. I drove the Mustang and it just fit for me. The rear seat headroom is the only thing I did't like. Maybe good for kids. I'm older and 90% of the time it's just me and maybe the wife too in our cars. The front seats and legroom in the Ford are excellent and would be fine on a long trip. The Mustang is a real head turner. Ford did an excellent job building a 21st century car that has just enough 1960s styling cues. The Camaro is absolutely horrible in regard to visibility. To me that's a basic need for a daily driver so I disregarded that choice.
Compare base V8 models when shopping or else you are comparing apples to oranges. There's always a more expensive model to choose from.
The challenger is in a class of its own, it's the only true muscle on the market.
I'm smol, and everyone in my family is smol, so the space in the challenger isn't necessary.
Challenger rules
My only real complaint is that I feel the R/T should be closer (performance-wise) to the GT for the price you pay for them. I love how the Challenger looks over the latest Mustang but they are so incredibly inferior performance wise. It's like Dodge said "Let's make it a cruiser that can do well in a drag race.....but not as well as our direct competition. For them we'll make our enthusiasts pay closer to $40k. This is not balanced. There is literally no way to justify this in any logical sense. You want to compare apples to apples etc? I've heard it said that the "R/T is the middle of the pack" option. This cracks me up. It's a base V8...I get that...yet the base V8's from Ford and Chevy are the same through their lineups and still so much more powerful. It seems so incredibly unfair that Dodge enthusiasts have to cough up closer to 40k to truly compete with the low to mid 30k offerings from Ford and Chevy.
Left out the fact that a r/t challenger can't even out run a 300 hp V6 mustang lmfao
Put the GT 5.0 against the Challenger Hellcat since you want to be unfair with the comparison. Challenger RT only has 375hp and the Mustang GT 5.0 has 435hp
Doesn't matter. They are same class vehicles. Not Ford's fault Dodge didn't put enough muscle in their heavier muscle car. If you want to compare a mustang to a Hellcat you would at least have to use a GT350 preferably supercharged.
Hmm, they said the Challenger R/T requires premium fuel??? Mine doesn't.
Put my money where my mouth is and just ordered a 2016 Challenger R/T Scat Pack Shaker in Plum Crazy Purple. Winner, CHALLENGER!
If back seat room is important, get a minivan! If you want badass, get the new Shelby GT 350!
When I saw this I was scared to go in the comments. But boy was I wrong “SRT RED EYE , RED KEY”
The wildcard is that it's AVAILABLE with 707 horsepower, I like both don't get me wrong but most challengers are v6 automatics; as for the mustang it may be a similar story but at least there's an equally as affordable turbo 4.
Mustang for the price. Mustang all the way anyway. Stunning looks, much better performance for the price, and better driving experience.
I've been a Ford guy for years... I have owned a dozen different mustangs from 1965, 1970 mach 1, to new mustangs..... gotta tell ya tho... I just bought a 2015 challenger RT in sublime green.... and I LOVE IT
At first..i wanted a mustang..but after 2015 redesign on the challenger.. It became my new mistress.
mustang is not a muscle car anymore, it is a sports car. muscle car is about big, heavy, big displacement engine and straight line, not going corners. This host doesn't ever know the definition of a muscle car.
The challenger has the muscle look, the mustang is just the better car overall
People are driving me nuts talking down that ecoboost 4, the challenger rt featured here has a 0-60 of around 5.2-5.3... The new ecoboost mustang has a 0-60 of around 5.5, its got two less cylinders and its still not that far off from the challengers performance. I'm wanting to place my order on the stang soon but I need a winter car first. The only problem I have with the mustang is that its still being advertised as a muscle car... I think the stang is one of the hottest cars out right now but its too refined and capable, I think its more of a GT car now. If were talking muscle cars the challenger wins hands down
If you want looks and a comfortable car get the challenger if you want performance get the mustang. It's that easy.
I have been a mustang fan my whole life, I have owned around 20, from 1965, 1970 mach 1. to 2003 cobra... for the first time in my life, i bought a dodge... the challenger RT in sublime green.... and i love it.
IMHO the new mustang looks like a ford taurus
It does look like a fusion , Taurus
Totally incorrect: the mustang is a better car in almost every way. If your really buying a muscle car for its back seat, you need to rethink your priorities.
How about reliability? Ford or Dodge? I'd guess the Ford is going to be more reliable.
15 Mustang looks too European...... yuck. Just buy a BMW or Mercedes.
That makes no sense... Just cause it looks European doesn't mean one should purchase a BMW or Mercedes. That's like saying one should purchase a Tiger, because their cat has Tiger Stripes... Do you realize the cost of owning an American car over European when it comes to maintenance? I would much rather purchase a vehicle that looked European, and pay American cost rather than a European vehicle with that ridiculous European cost.
Well I love the mustangs interior worlds nicer than the Challenger inside and out. The Mustang isn't a muscle car anymore it's a sports car.
I can careless about rear seats. I'm the one driving the car. Mustang for me, nicer in every department, more power, better fuel economy, more comfortable ride, better sound system with 12 speakers, it's just better imo.
I think either the R/T Scat Pack or the SRT 392 would be a better competitor to the GT (and would win that competition). The RT Challenger is more of a direct competitor with the camaro RS.
I'm a Mustang fan and for me it will always win over other American muscle cars
THE SRT 392 WAS MADE TO COMPETE WITH THE MUSTANG 5.0 NOT THE 5.7 RT
Keep in mind the Challenger Scat Pack is 1.4L larger in displacement and still we are talking a small amount of 0 to 60 and 1/4 mile times. There is still that weight issue though, especially with a bigger engine. So I wouldn't be surprised to see mustangs still holding there own against a scat pack in the quarter mile. I still think it's amazing to see how much power is squeezed out of that small Ford 302 engine. Another thing is the Dodge has 7!!! different challengers to choose from like the sxt, sxt plus, rt, rt plus, rt scat pack, srt 392 and hellcat. Ford right now just has the the 4 cyl, the 6 cyl and the gt for 2015. I'm sure more will come next year.
The challenger is larger than the CL class Mercedes.I like that platform but if I was a family man, I'd get the Charger. Mustang if you want a coupe.
i'm a mustang guy, but challenger would get my vote. I plan on getting the 6.4L SCAT model.
Mustang enthusiasts will always pull the "it handles better". Not like were doing the LeMans race everyday......
You bought the wrong RT for this face off. It should have been the 2015 Challenger RT Scat Pack with an automatic transmission. That is the sweet spot model with the most value and performance per dollar. ;o)
Actually the mustang has more leg space if you pay attention
As a former Mustang GT owner (2010 Mustang GT) - one of my all time favorite cars of over 50+ cars I've owned in my 48 years - I sold my 2010 in hopes of purchasing a new Stang. I stopped at a Ford dealer to purchase a 2015 and couldn't get past the new Euro look. UGGHHH. You cannot tell a v6 from a GT - other than the GT badge :(
Please don't misunderdstand - I am not opposed to new design - I prefer the progression of a car, but the new Mustang is ugly - it looked weak in person - I was so disappointed.
On my way home, I passed a Dodge dealer and decided to stop in on a whim (I never even thought of a Challenger before this) to check a Challenger out. As I started the test drive, I have to admit, I was IMPRESSED! I NEVER thought I would like it- I LOVED IT! As a huge Stang fan, I couldn't believe the difference!
The best way to describe it:
MUSTANG - Quick, nible, fun.
CHALLENGER - Raw, Visceral, and muscle. Seemed much better built and heavy in a good way.
IF you are in the market at all for this type of car, do yourself a favor and try them both and see.
This is a GREAT time in auto history - Muscle car mayhem! Awesome!!!!
I went with a Dodge challenger RT/Plus in Pearl White. I was kind of regreating that I didn't go with the SRT or even a Scat pack but overall I'm happy.
Buy the RT ,supercharge it and still pay less, now i have room to lock the mustang in the trunk
Why would anyone buy a muscle car for its back seats?
I think the mustang should win.
You can get bbk headers, a cat back exhaust, air intake and programmer for the challenger for about 2000 dollars...and you are gonna make about 490hp 510 torque and the crank
..just sayin
i disagree, i like the mustang more, but thats not to say I'm not a fan of the challenger. I'm a fan of both cars, but i think the mustang overall fits my needs and style better.
Test drove both ot these two plus the camaro this past weekend trying to make a decisions on which would be the better buy and I gotta say I was expecting way more from the mustang based of the reviews and videos online.. I honestly wasn't expecting much at all from the challenger but holy fuck it blew my socks off. The roar made me moist. The mustang was just and mere .. meh.. plus I'm 6'1 and the mustang was so sadly to small. While the challenger was roomy and truly comfortable. The camaro on the other hand was just one big plastic mess of an interior. I to plan on having people in my ride so I think I'm going to lay my money on the challenger plus with the scat pack available holy guacamole that's more power then I'll ever need. Pretty much all personal preferences
"The roar made me moist"
Enrique Marino Good points. However, unless you are going for Hellcat, Mustang is faster at the GT level.
Enrique Marino I've been driving a 2010 Challenger R/T 5.7 since new. Great looking car but thought about looking at something different. I've owned several Camaro's and Firebirds and the new Camaro sucks royally. The new Mustang 5.0 rode very good but driving position a bit low and a looooong hood. Made me wonder if I would hit the nose when parking. Drove the Chevy SS, I REALLY DO LIKE THE CHEVY SS. It felt nimble like the Mustang and Roomy like the Challenger. If I get a new 15 Challenger it will be a 392 Scatpack Shaker. or an SRT. If you want people to notice you get the Challenger, it makes everything else invisible
***** mustang is definitely faster at the GT level. The scat pack automatic is faster than the manual in the challenger.
You also have to remember Ford has BY FAR the most efficient engine. They are doing as much with a 5 liter displacement as dodge is doing with a 6.4 liter displacement.
That engine gets significantly more horsepower than the mustang, but because the challenger is so gigantic, the mustang can keep up easily.
I've races my.mustang GT (2015) with a fe w of the 6.4 challengers. It is a very, very close race every time. With me winning half the time and him the other half.
johnnieace45 disagree with the looks thing. I have yet to meet in person someone who prefers the looks of a challenger over my mustang. I would agree with you if the 2015 mustang didn't exist. Years prior, yes, challenger was very good looking.
As it is now I would say challenger is the ugliest of the three muscles. Camaro and Mustang both do a great job of mixing retro with modern styling. Challenger is simply all retro I think. Not a lot of curves at all and a very underwhelming design. Not a lot of lines and even the interior is meh.
Not to say it isn't good looking, it just isn't as refined as camaro or the new mustang.
The R/T does not require premium fuel. The SRT does, I know because I own SRT Challenger. This is not a good match as far as power and suspension. The R/T produces 370hp and the GT has 60hp more hp so its not really fair comparison here. It would be a completely different story if we where comparing an SRT with sport tuned suspension, handling is excellent and refined with 485hp. SRT vs. GT?, game over. So my answer to the question, Mopar all day and night >direct connection< baby
You guys are so wrong because the Mustang overrules the Challenger anytime and anywhere, if you really want a pure showdown in muscle, look at it the speed rating way and the Challenger will come crying.
Challenger vs Ford Fusion front lol
Why are you comparing a R/t to a GT you should compare the scatpack to the GT
the challenger requires middle grade gasoline or better. and has a better interior by far. yes its suppose to remind you of the other dodge vehicles but it it still has its own independence.(from 2008-2010 i couldn't say that, but know i can). u can't just take parts from the charger and put it on the challenger other than obvious things. great video.