I bought a 2010 Challenger R/T in B5 blue and I never got tired of looking at it. Perfect execution of muscle car styling that is also a good summer daily driver. Yea you can feel the weight, but it doesn't make it any less fun to drive
@@nate1204 You can feel the weight in a hard turn but it honestly doesn't handles pretty good for a car of its size. Steering feel is a little numb but precise. Upgrading the brakes to carbon fiber ceramics goes a long way. The chassis of these are based on Mercedes E class so there is some inherent German characteristics.
Good point about the (weight) - I have a Challenger and a Mustang - there is a huge difference when it comes down to the weight and being able to hug curves - but I really could not choose one over the other because I love driving each car for difference reasons - I will be getting a Camaro soon - everyone says that the Camaro is the fastest of the 3 cars - each car has its own benefits in my opinion - and honestly, it is not about the speed with the Challenger or the Mustang so I am looking forward to see if the Camaro really makes me want to drive faster
I personally think the original mustang was a sports car, just over time with the introduction of the Camaro and Challenger, that’s when the muscle car name emerged. Now I love the Challengers, just it’s starting to show age and I see them EVERYWHERE, same with mustangs but a lot of people custom them and I just always get giddy seeing a Mustang
Challenger is the one! Dodge stayed true to its roots and design and if it's still the same year-in year-out it's because they nailed it the first time.👍
Had a 2007 GT and a 16 GT350. Miss the 350 so much but had too many issues to justify keeping it. Now own a ‘17 T/A 392 and love the old school feel and torque
Id probably pick the Mustang simply cuz it's smaller and lighter. I'm not a brand loyalist so idgaf who makes what car. They're both awesome but I like smooth sleek lines over a boxy beast. To each their own. Tbh wish the mustang used the ZF 8 - speed though.
I was really hesitating between both and ended up buying a brand new Mustang GT just because it was such a better car for the money, I paid 10k less than for a Challenger scatpack
@@EricZAchilleYeah it’s cheaper and faster. The only thing that I dislike about mustang fan is the top speed. Ford needs to remove that governor and get Y rated tires so we can hit 180 like 392s can… ridiculous they don’t want to put them on there.
I’m 5 challengers in would never consider a mustang not because I think they are bad cars. I just prefer challengers. I’ll take heavy fast and comfortable over fast and cramped all day.
You can call a four-door sedan a Camaro or an SUV a Mustang but that doesn’t mean that they are those things. At this point they are just the badge stuck on a car
Challenger! The Challenger is the absolute closed to it's roots, and is true to being a "muscle car," more than Ford or Chev. Judging from the Mustang Mach E being a crossover (advertised with chicken wings and chilled drinks in the frunk) and GM wanting to go in the similar direction. It will still be Mopar for the win with their teaser for their EV muscle with the return of the Fratzog logo and possible 67 Charger shaped front end...
Even the more “muscley” muscle cars are more of sports cars with muscle car engines. Both the Mustang and the Camaro put more emphasis on cornering than they do outright speed, which isn’t inherently a bad thing unless we’re talking abt a muscle car. The point of a muscle car is speed and power in a straight line. It should never corner well. Dodge understands this where other competitors don’t, and that’s what I love abt the dodge
@@mrsoisauce9017 yup, if I wanted a sports car I'd get a Corvette, gt, or viper. I want a mustang, Camaro, or challenger so I can do burnouts and feel all the power
@@tati-anaroseee4316 I personally am more of a supercar guy, and a little bit of a JDM guy as well, but even I can understand the appeal of a car like a Dodge. Jeremy Carlson put it best: “Speed and powerrrrrr” or some shit like that
@@mrsoisauce9017 I like German cars which are sort of a mix of both muscle and handling, especially AMG, I think Mopar is sort of the American version of amg and that's why is my favorite :)
I like the handling dynamic of Mustang. So Mustang is my choice. Mustang was always the most agile among the muscle car trio since 1970s. While challenger was always the fat one and Camaro just trying to be a better Mustang. So Mustang stay true as well as challenger
I like the challenger for classic look it is big but it's flows well and is expected, i would typically want a mustang but the current ones look and feel soooo long physically. I love the s197 (2005-2009) size the next gen got too bloated and the current is stretched out too much. Camero maybe long as well but the portions for me make it seem "smaller"/ more sports car size
Yeah because the Mustang isn´t a Muscle car. Its a pony car, and the GT350/GT500 are pure sports cars. The Dodge Challanger allways was and still is a heavy, comfortable car and has more power than neccessary.
The 2015 redesign of the Mustang was such a home run. I think the S197 has aged with mixed results, but the 2015+ S550 still looks so fresh to me, and even a clean GT will still catch my attention. SN95s have aged the worst, imo.
I have (unprofessionally) been drag racing at official drag strips since 1977. Sports cars are appealing, but it's muscle cars that get my blood pressure up!
100% agree, the Mustang turned into a sportscar and the Challenger is still a muscle car... BUT I cannot glide over the Challenger's proportions.... just too fat!! It needs 10" shaved on the whole bottom. Way way too fat and bulky... Even some big wheels options look small with that body size. The interior looks good, but again, just way too big
Short, and straight to the point. Within 60 seconds I was able to tell you have zero clue about cars, zero clue on how to rate or compare them, and that this entire 10 minute "breakdown" is more or less a 10 minute rant about why one is prettier to you in your opinion because it looks....*checks paper* older?
Yeah gotta disagree here. Challenger is too retro and single purpose. Its a "look" car with just power. The mustang is a proper GT, and the better ones are compelling sports cars. Cant beat that car for looks, performance, and price. I would say the biggest thing against(Not a problem for me) the current Mustang, is that its got a lot of Aston Martin DNA in it. It feels like it could have evolved from the 80s-vantage v8, and the 90s vantage v600. The grille is definately a leftover from when Ford owned Aston and stole their grille.
If you're a Fan, and want to go Really fast in a Straight Line, then get the Challenger. But if you're an Enjoyer, and want to use the full potential of an Automobile, then get the Mustang.
In my opinion the Challanger is the only muscle car left on this planet. It also got the best Design and definetely looks like a Muscle car. The Mustang isn´t a Muscle car anymore and doesn´t looks like one either.
The Mustang was never a muscle car. There were variants of the 68-73 that could wear that moniker, sure for homologation purposes mostly, but the Mustang was primarily a sporty rebody of a Falcon marketed at baby boomer secretaries and bachelors. Ford decided to devote attention to racing and contracted Shelby to convert the little couple into a sports car so they could go win some trans am trophies. This would make the mustang a sports car years before it got a monstrous motor as an option. Dodge has actually done the Challenger's history as a trans am car a disservice by focusing on muscle rather than balanced performance. The Charger was always the muscle car in its lineup. Then again, they have certainly found their niche haven't they?
I came in knowing what to expect, and I'm still bummed out by your opinion. Literally every opinion video you make is like a nostalgia thing for you. Sometimes I agree, but this time is a no-go.
The plate on mine says TRU MSCL. And for what it is, the cornering is actually pretty suprizing, But you have the best sounding engine, and it feels like it's 1970 all the time.
Can you go over the Honda Accord one day. I own two Honda accords the 8th and 9th gen. I like the new one but I love car design and I really love the way the 8th gen looks. I feel like it's so classic and will never go out of style. I think Honda was making some great designs in those years. The CR-V, Civic, and pilot of that time are the best designed ones yet in my opinion.
I personally love Challengers. Because they are my dream car. Besides my dream car being a 1970 Charger. The new era Challengers are my go to. And if I did have a challenger I don’t need it to be powerful I just want to enjoy the feel of the muscle car like an SXT or RT. Especially RT it’s a good amount of power and not too much. And I don’t like to show off like other challenger owners I’ve seen do No offense scat pack challenger owners and art owners.
Mustang is much more well balanced and is definitely the superior car. However yeah Dodge stayed true to their roots and hold on the muscle car title. Props for that
The current Mustang is based on the Ford Evos concept from 2011. Not the 2003 retro concept that was the basis of the previous generation. The foundation of the argument is wrong. The Challenger goes around corners well, buts a GT car spots not a track star.
Wow I really did not know about that! Thanks for the info. I wonder what the future of the Challenger will be because the car hasn't changed since 2008 and was only refreshed in 2015 (only the back changed, the front not so much).
@@EricZAchille They're going more modern with retro cues. They're being careful with the next design so as not to make that mistakes that Chevy made with Camaro
Can you pleeease make a video on the F12 vs 812 in terms of design? I would love to hear your thoughts. I rode in an 812 a few weeks ago and it grew on me a lot but I’m still leaning towards the f12
I've been saying this for years, the Challenger is the best designed American car in decades imo. It's sexy, it's intimidating. You can spot the amber glare from over a mile away. It's a goddamned barge for the road. It's sexy.
What you don't understand is Ford decided to make the Mustang a global car and to be a global car you need a decide that will fit and please other market outside US. And boom the Current Mustang is the best selling Sports car in the world. If Ford kept the "muscular" look it wouldn't please the europeans and some because it's too bulky.
The challenger since the redesign looks good, but….is way too heavy of a muscle car and only any good on a drag strip in a straight line. It sucks for turns an constantly shifting up an down in turns. The Mustang at least GT and up can do the job fast and in curves. It’s considered a heavy car but nowhere’s as ridiculous as the challenger for weight. The Mustang wins in performance on an actual track by a country mile vs dodge is a straight line car for people who want to pretend they are racers, but can’t actually race with talent short of go fast for a quarter mile.
What’s funny is the mustang was never a muscle car or meant to be such, Issa pony car. So is Camaro. They made muscle cars back in the day but not one sold like the pony cars did.
It seems like you have the wrong idea on making this video. Again the current mustang is a global car now so you can't be closeminded on one thing(muscle)
I think modern life change the Camaro and mustang they are totally different In the other challenger and charger they are there for who wants more room I think all them are beautiful muscle cars now Ford and GM made changes lighters both of them Dodge they want to keep it that way more heavy more muscle looking it’s depends on preference we have a Camaro 1LE 2022 At least they have a v8 under the hood all 4 they are muscle cars all of them are amazing cars different ways I believe Dodge one day will be same size but less weight all v8 will be end soon and welcome electric ⚡️ cars America 🇺🇸 need the v8 for life it’s history to tell nice video man keep up god blessing all
Hilarious these mopar heads be like "they stayed true to muscle car roots" lol. They stayed because that's the only thing they can offer since 2008 its the same old car and it is literally damn old. The camaro and mustang had new generation in '15-16 and about to have a new one a few years from now atleast the mustang and the challenger is still riding that old ass platform. Dodge didn't choose to stay but it's literally what they have.
I got a small headache because it’s a pony car vs muscle car comparison haha. It’s like comparing a sports car to a super car and asking why the sports car isn’t in the image of a super car. It’s just not a sound argument or comparison here, and I like both the mustang and challenger. Just because it’s American doesn’t make it muscle. Pony cars are an American take on European sports cars yet affordable for the American citizen. There’s a reason the mustang back in the 60s-70s looked more sporty than the Dodge Charger of its time. The challenger started off as a “pony” car and was marketed as such in the 70s for dodge, but then turned into a “muscle” car and is now marketed as a “muscle” car nowadays. Just like how dodge made the charger a sedan instead of the pure muscle car that it was in the 70s. The challenger is the ONLY car in this comparison WHOS changed category NOT the mustang. I dont know why ppl refuse to attempt to even get a mental grasp on this concept it hurts my brain mentally lol. But love the channel regardless. I just dislike when ppl ignore that mustangs and Camaros stayed pony cars and never changed, and only the challenger who was supposed to be the pony car answer to the original mustang and Camaro is the only one that “changed”.
I prefer the 2015 Mustang. Besides the build quality I think it's amazing. It also has a nice screen that still holds up today. The Challenger on the other hand is just a terrible car.
I mean, I'm kinda over retro design that's heavily handed. Ford is by far the best brand when it comes to retro design, the mustang, bronco, and gt all have retro elements, and clearly have a resemblance to those designs from the 60s. But they're fresh and innovative at the same time. A world where we just constantly seek to relive the glory days rather than make the effort to create new icons is a very depressing idea to me.
The Challenger definitely has more of that good ol' muscle car look and feel but if i had to pick between the two to buy I'd choose the Mustang although I'm not too interested in muscle cars anyway.
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I bought a 2010 Challenger R/T in B5 blue and I never got tired of looking at it. Perfect execution of muscle car styling that is also a good summer daily driver. Yea you can feel the weight, but it doesn't make it any less fun to drive
My thougjts eXactly, I have a 2015 R/T Scat pack 6 speed, I also had a 70 R/T 440 4 speed Challenger 😁 (50 years ago)
How was the handling/turning?
I’m sorry
@@nate1204 You can feel the weight in a hard turn but it honestly doesn't handles pretty good for a car of its size. Steering feel is a little numb but precise. Upgrading the brakes to carbon fiber ceramics goes a long way. The chassis of these are based on Mercedes E class so there is some inherent German characteristics.
Good point about the (weight) - I have a Challenger and a Mustang - there is a huge difference when it comes down to the weight and being able to hug curves - but I really could not choose one over the other because I love driving each car for difference reasons - I will be getting a Camaro soon - everyone says that the Camaro is the fastest of the 3 cars - each car has its own benefits in my opinion - and honestly, it is not about the speed with the Challenger or the Mustang so I am looking forward to see if the Camaro really makes me want to drive faster
I personally think the original mustang was a sports car, just over time with the introduction of the Camaro and Challenger, that’s when the muscle car name emerged. Now I love the Challengers, just it’s starting to show age and I see them EVERYWHERE, same with mustangs but a lot of people custom them and I just always get giddy seeing a Mustang
The mustang was always a sports car
@@THESLlCKit was a hybrid pony/muscle car .. making it a sports car
Challenger is the one! Dodge stayed true to its roots and design and if it's still the same year-in year-out it's because they nailed it the first time.👍
Challengers are the sexiest of the 3. Dodge really knocked it out of the park with the design. Timeless classic look.
Had a 2007 GT and a 16 GT350. Miss the 350 so much but had too many issues to justify keeping it. Now own a ‘17 T/A 392 and love the old school feel and torque
Id probably pick the Mustang simply cuz it's smaller and lighter. I'm not a brand loyalist so idgaf who makes what car. They're both awesome but I like smooth sleek lines over a boxy beast. To each their own. Tbh wish the mustang used the ZF 8 - speed though.
I was really hesitating between both and ended up buying a brand new Mustang GT just because it was such a better car for the money, I paid 10k less than for a Challenger scatpack
@@EricZAchilleYeah it’s cheaper and faster. The only thing that I dislike about mustang fan is the top speed. Ford needs to remove that governor and get Y rated tires so we can hit 180 like 392s can… ridiculous they don’t want to put them on there.
A wide body scatpack might not be as fast as my modified 2012 5.0 but it sure as hell looks mean af.
I’m 5 challengers in would never consider a mustang not because I think they are bad cars. I just prefer challengers. I’ll take heavy fast and comfortable over fast and cramped all day.
I’ll take a old 1969 mustang boss 429 thank you very much.
You can call a four-door sedan a Camaro or an SUV a Mustang but that doesn’t mean that they are those things. At this point they are just the badge stuck on a car
Early guess: Challenger. It is a timeless classic.
Besides the retro design the upcoming "e-muscle" will have nothing in common with muscle cars then.
At least Dodge knows what we want, and r trying 2 emulate it the best they can. The reveal trailer speaks 4 itself
@@mrsoisauce9017 yeah so much for that lol
Challenger looks nice, but the mustang 5.0 mustang beats it in every performance category. 392’s sound nice though.
Love em both! I have a Stang, but that classic look of the challenger is just beautiful.
Challenger! The Challenger is the absolute closed to it's roots, and is true to being a "muscle car," more than Ford or Chev.
Judging from the Mustang Mach E being a crossover (advertised with chicken wings and chilled drinks in the frunk) and GM wanting to go in the similar direction. It will still be Mopar for the win with their teaser for their EV muscle with the return of the Fratzog logo and possible 67 Charger shaped front end...
Even the more “muscley” muscle cars are more of sports cars with muscle car engines. Both the Mustang and the Camaro put more emphasis on cornering than they do outright speed, which isn’t inherently a bad thing unless we’re talking abt a muscle car. The point of a muscle car is speed and power in a straight line. It should never corner well. Dodge understands this where other competitors don’t, and that’s what I love abt the dodge
@@mrsoisauce9017 yup, if I wanted a sports car I'd get a Corvette, gt, or viper. I want a mustang, Camaro, or challenger so I can do burnouts and feel all the power
@@tati-anaroseee4316 I personally am more of a supercar guy, and a little bit of a JDM guy as well, but even I can understand the appeal of a car like a Dodge. Jeremy Carlson put it best: “Speed and powerrrrrr” or some shit like that
@@mrsoisauce9017 I like German cars which are sort of a mix of both muscle and handling, especially AMG, I think Mopar is sort of the American version of amg and that's why is my favorite :)
I like the handling dynamic of Mustang. So Mustang is my choice. Mustang was always the most agile among the muscle car trio since 1970s. While challenger was always the fat one and Camaro just trying to be a better Mustang. So Mustang stay true as well as challenger
simply not true lol. The camaro is better than the mustang in every way and so is the challenger
@@THESLlCK that depends on year and trim level…
I've had both and loved them but I prefer the mustang
what a surprise
I would buy the mustang but I would love to have both
In 14' I went with the Mustang GT, but I always liked the looks of the Challenger. Even the Charger is a badass ride if you need four doors.
Only the name alone tells you that it's not a nonsense car
The best muscle car ever
I like the challenger for classic look it is big but it's flows well and is expected, i would typically want a mustang but the current ones look and feel soooo long physically. I love the s197 (2005-2009) size the next gen got too bloated and the current is stretched out too much. Camero maybe long as well but the portions for me make it seem "smaller"/ more sports car size
Mustang all day. Its driving experience makes the Challenger jealous
Yeah because the Mustang isn´t a Muscle car. Its a pony car, and the GT350/GT500 are pure sports cars.
The Dodge Challanger allways was and still is a heavy, comfortable car and has more power than neccessary.
Challenger is definitely the choice in terms of design
The 2015 redesign of the Mustang was such a home run. I think the S197 has aged with mixed results, but the 2015+ S550 still looks so fresh to me, and even a clean GT will still catch my attention. SN95s have aged the worst, imo.
I resent that!!!🤣🤣🤣
I have (unprofessionally) been drag racing at official drag strips since 1977. Sports cars are appealing, but it's muscle cars that get my blood pressure up!
I have an older Mustang right now, and I’d love a 392 over the Mustang for size alone
100% agree, the Mustang turned into a sportscar and the Challenger is still a muscle car... BUT I cannot glide over the Challenger's proportions.... just too fat!! It needs 10" shaved on the whole bottom. Way way too fat and bulky... Even some big wheels options look small with that body size. The interior looks good, but again, just way too big
How do you have only that amount of subscribers, you deserve more
Short, and straight to the point.
Within 60 seconds I was able to tell you have zero clue about cars, zero clue on how to rate or compare them, and that this entire 10 minute "breakdown" is more or less a 10 minute rant about why one is prettier to you in your opinion because it looks....*checks paper* older?
Yeah gotta disagree here. Challenger is too retro and single purpose. Its a "look" car with just power. The mustang is a proper GT, and the better ones are compelling sports cars. Cant beat that car for looks, performance, and price. I would say the biggest thing against(Not a problem for me) the current Mustang, is that its got a lot of Aston Martin DNA in it. It feels like it could have evolved from the 80s-vantage v8, and the 90s vantage v600. The grille is definately a leftover from when Ford owned Aston and stole their grille.
Very interesting point. The current mustang is truly the poor man's Aston Martin.
dodge challenger easy
Challenger, because I dont feel like parking the Chevy or the Ford at the Autozone each morning
I had a 2014 Mustang, 1996 Camaro now....next time I will get a 60s or early 70s Mopar car..gotta try all the flavors.
If you're a Fan, and want to go Really fast in a Straight Line, then get the Challenger.
But if you're an Enjoyer, and want to use the full potential of an Automobile, then get the Mustang.
RT>Ecoboost>Challenger GT
10Spd 5.0> 392 > 6spd 5.0
Super stock > GT500 > Hellcat Redeye
Put the new challenger next to a 1970s one , tell me which one is bloated and which one is as tall as my mini van
In my opinion the Challanger is the only muscle car left on this planet.
It also got the best Design and definetely looks like a Muscle car.
The Mustang isn´t a Muscle car anymore and doesn´t looks like one either.
The Mustang was never a muscle car. There were variants of the 68-73 that could wear that moniker, sure for homologation purposes mostly, but the Mustang was primarily a sporty rebody of a Falcon marketed at baby boomer secretaries and bachelors. Ford decided to devote attention to racing and contracted Shelby to convert the little couple into a sports car so they could go win some trans am trophies. This would make the mustang a sports car years before it got a monstrous motor as an option.
Dodge has actually done the Challenger's history as a trans am car a disservice by focusing on muscle rather than balanced performance. The Charger was always the muscle car in its lineup. Then again, they have certainly found their niche haven't they?
cant beat the hellcat supercharger whine imo
The original Challenger was a beautiful car. The new one looks like an inflatable blow-up version of it.
Challenger for me
I came in knowing what to expect, and I'm still bummed out by your opinion. Literally every opinion video you make is like a nostalgia thing for you. Sometimes I agree, but this time is a no-go.
Everyone’s got opinions my guy you can’t let them bum you out...
The plate on mine says TRU MSCL. And for what it is, the cornering is actually pretty suprizing, But you have the best sounding engine, and it feels like it's 1970 all the time.
ThoughI'd like to own Mustang for its revvy 5.0 and this gen Camaro is a fantastic driving machine.
Can you go over the Honda Accord one day. I own two Honda accords the 8th and 9th gen. I like the new one but I love car design and I really love the way the 8th gen looks. I feel like it's so classic and will never go out of style. I think Honda was making some great designs in those years. The CR-V, Civic, and pilot of that time are the best designed ones yet in my opinion.
Hey Bambi, you do know that the 2007 GT500 is more in line with the looks of the concept that you and I like so much.
I personally love Challengers. Because they are my dream car.
Besides my dream car being a 1970 Charger. The new era Challengers are my go to. And if I did have a challenger I don’t need it to be powerful I just want to enjoy the feel of the muscle car like an SXT or RT. Especially RT it’s a good amount of power and not too much. And I don’t like to show off like other challenger owners I’ve seen do
No offense scat pack challenger owners and art owners.
Challenger Demon 🤞🏼
2015 GT and 2016 GT350 💪
Great video as always. Car design is always very interesting to me
Mustang is much more well balanced and is definitely the superior car. However yeah Dodge stayed true to their roots and hold on the muscle car title. Props for that
The current Mustang is based on the Ford Evos concept from 2011. Not the 2003 retro concept that was the basis of the previous generation. The foundation of the argument is wrong.
The Challenger goes around corners well, buts a GT car spots not a track star.
Wow I really did not know about that! Thanks for the info. I wonder what the future of the Challenger will be because the car hasn't changed since 2008 and was only refreshed in 2015 (only the back changed, the front not so much).
@@EricZAchille They're going more modern with retro cues. They're being careful with the next design so as not to make that mistakes that Chevy made with Camaro
@@bobbycalifornia7077 What do you think about the leaked images of the new s650 Mustang?
@@EricZAchille Hard to tell. Interior looks real nice but front end… idk. We’ll see!
just because the mustang can corner doesnt mean its not a muscle car
Can you pleeease make a video on the F12 vs 812 in terms of design? I would love to hear your thoughts. I rode in an 812 a few weeks ago and it grew on me a lot but I’m still leaning towards the f12
Between the two, I'd go with the Mustang because it's a sports car.
I've been saying this for years, the Challenger is the best designed American car in decades imo. It's sexy, it's intimidating. You can spot the amber glare from over a mile away. It's a goddamned barge for the road. It's sexy.
Dodge Challenger Hellcat thank you!🙏❤
What you don't understand is Ford decided to make the Mustang a global car and to be a global car you need a decide that will fit and please other market outside US. And boom the Current Mustang is the best selling Sports car in the world. If Ford kept the "muscular" look it wouldn't please the europeans and some because it's too bulky.
which one? the lotus elise, thats which one.
Can you do a video on what a Land Rover sedan would like, if you haven't done that already?
jaguar
I really like 2005 Mustang. Looks like the old versions. But the new ones...Challenger is much better.
The challenger since the redesign looks good, but….is way too heavy of a muscle car and only any good on a drag strip in a straight line. It sucks for turns an constantly shifting up an down in turns. The Mustang at least GT and up can do the job fast and in curves. It’s considered a heavy car but nowhere’s as ridiculous as the challenger for weight. The Mustang wins in performance on an actual track by a country mile vs dodge is a straight line car for people who want to pretend they are racers, but can’t actually race with talent short of go fast for a quarter mile.
I wouldn’t say so much psychopathic as ‘stern’
😂
The mid-cycle refresh of the current generation ruined it.
Made it all droopy eyed, and extended nose.
Those things don't work for that car.
The thing is, the mustang was never a muscle car, it was a pony car which is a mix of both muscle and sports car
It was a Muscle car, but only the old models.
Mustang here
What’s funny is the mustang was never a muscle car or meant to be such, Issa pony car. So is Camaro. They made muscle cars back in the day but not one sold like the pony cars did.
I'd take a Vette over both tbh
I know it’s not out yet, but what do u think of the upcoming Dodge EV?
Agree! 🙏
The challenger has a belt line as far above the pavement as a truck, way too tall
Prefer a Charger honestly
So I’d take the mustang
Mopar or no car
So he can say that Kemal Curic doesn't know how to design a Mustang ..... Simple
Dodge hold the title of muscle car , but the new camaro looks better than all of em
I think the Challenger is a better looking muscle car but I think the mustang is a far better looking car
DODGE. CHALLENGER. ONLY
It seems like you have the wrong idea on making this video. Again the current mustang is a global car now so you can't be closeminded on one thing(muscle)
I have my 2010 mustang manual i luv it🥰 fun car
I think modern life change the Camaro and mustang they are totally different In the other challenger and charger they are there for who wants more room I think all them are beautiful muscle cars now Ford and GM made changes lighters both of them Dodge they want to keep it that way more heavy more muscle looking it’s depends on preference we have a Camaro 1LE 2022
At least they have a v8 under the hood all 4 they are muscle cars all of them are amazing cars different ways I believe Dodge one day will be same size but less weight all v8 will be end soon and welcome electric ⚡️ cars America 🇺🇸 need the v8 for life it’s history to tell nice video man keep up god blessing all
Both awesome cars, but I prefer the Mustang's styling. The Challenger looks a bit "fat" to my eyes.
Mustang all day
Challenger
Hilarious these mopar heads be like "they stayed true to muscle car roots" lol. They stayed because that's the only thing they can offer since 2008 its the same old car and it is literally damn old. The camaro and mustang had new generation in '15-16 and about to have a new one a few years from now atleast the mustang and the challenger is still riding that old ass platform. Dodge didn't choose to stay but it's literally what they have.
I wouldn't buy eithervof them and go for a vette or even an RCF
While the challenger is the only muscle car left I still think the front fascia of the current mustang is near perfect
No way, 2013-2014 was perfection.
only Corvette ist the best
I got a small headache because it’s a pony car vs muscle car comparison haha. It’s like comparing a sports car to a super car and asking why the sports car isn’t in the image of a super car. It’s just not a sound argument or comparison here, and I like both the mustang and challenger.
Just because it’s American doesn’t make it muscle. Pony cars are an American take on European sports cars yet affordable for the American citizen. There’s a reason the mustang back in the 60s-70s looked more sporty than the Dodge Charger of its time.
The challenger started off as a “pony” car and was marketed as such in the 70s for dodge, but then turned into a “muscle” car and is now marketed as a “muscle” car nowadays. Just like how dodge made the charger a sedan instead of the pure muscle car that it was in the 70s. The challenger is the ONLY car in this comparison WHOS changed category NOT the mustang. I dont know why ppl refuse to attempt to even get a mental grasp on this concept it hurts my brain mentally lol. But love the channel regardless.
I just dislike when ppl ignore that mustangs and Camaros stayed pony cars and never changed, and only the challenger who was supposed to be the pony car answer to the original mustang and Camaro is the only one that “changed”.
Seeing as the mustang is still a pony car I like it more.
Been watching 0:09 seconds and i already know it's the Challenger.
It's an easy pick for almost anyone
The Challenger looks soooo much better than the mustang.
but i still love camaro
porsche
Huh
I mean the design have been kept for ages and isn't outdated
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Yeah but this video is about Muscle Cars and Dodge and Ford.
Camaro 1LE all day long.
Ummm Camaro ?
I prefer the 2015 Mustang. Besides the build quality I think it's amazing. It also has a nice screen that still holds up today. The Challenger on the other hand is just a terrible car.
I mean, I'm kinda over retro design that's heavily handed. Ford is by far the best brand when it comes to retro design, the mustang, bronco, and gt all have retro elements, and clearly have a resemblance to those designs from the 60s. But they're fresh and innovative at the same time. A world where we just constantly seek to relive the glory days rather than make the effort to create new icons is a very depressing idea to me.
Interesting point.
I bought a Challenger because is the only muscle car. Mustang and Camaro are pony cars.
100%
The Challenger definitely has more of that good ol' muscle car look and feel but if i had to pick between the two to buy I'd choose the Mustang although I'm not too interested in muscle cars anyway.
Mustang is a pony car, not a muscle car.