Shooting with the JVC GY-HM200: 4K handheld camcorder
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 พ.ค. 2015
- I have to admit, I have been a 4K sceptic until now. HD is well and truly suitable for the client work I produce. I've wondered if 4K is worth the hassle. Having used the Gy-HM200 I now see where 4K fits in. My channels of distribution will remain HD - however, to shoot 4K and be able to zoom in on the image is something that will revolutionise the abilities of the single camera operator who also edits. The ability to reframe shots matters. What also matters is that the 4K with the GY-HM200 is effectively 4K made easy. The camera records the 4K images at 150mbps and when bringing this into Final Cut Pro X for editing, the workflow is seamless. No hiccups or difficulties, simply shoot 4K, import this is into your editing system and get to work right away. I mention Final Cut Pro X, as this is the system I use. I havent tested footage from the GY-HM200 with any other editing systems.
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Thank you for this video and your other test video from Fiji. I have used the GY-HM150u and GY-HM650u in my professional life, but I've been looking at getting something of my own for freelance jobs. After seeing your reviews, I think JVC is going to win out again. At the current price point and future-proofing with a 4K rig (plus I'm already familiar with the settings, etc.) I think the GY-HM170u (the variant of the HM200) is going to be the right choice. I really appreciate your insight and testing. It's really helped me with my decision making process.
Hey Rick! I want to say thanks for taking your time to make these videos. They have really been a great help for me in understanding this whole camcorder thing. I just recently bought the JVC-HM200 to shoot some training videos. I'm new to working these things. I can see that you are very skilled and also passionate about them, I was wondering if you didn't mind and was up for it, to make a tutorial guide to teach others how to work this camera? Perhaps it would be a great way to add more value to your market while bringing more traffic to your channel. Again, I want to say thank you and also encourage you to keep up with the great videos. They really do make a difference and help others. Let me know if you ever need any help and also, if you do decide to do that tutorial, let me know. Thanks. :)
From the first moment listening to you - I saw you are a professional! Why? Every statement you make keeps in mind that you are "editing" your footage. All these dilettantes out there try to focus on the buttons and never explain, they just repeat what the JVC user manual says.
You are also the first - without such intention - who taught me how to twist the "hood" sunshade into a correct horizontal position. I was afraid to break it with too much force. THANK YOU for this excellent shooting instruction. Noting negative to say about this camera - most negative I could say about the presenters. I love your tripod! Your camera positioning, your shots and your narrative - simple and great!
Very Informative review. I am new to this camera but it has done great work for our Tusculum Athletics Broadcasts.
This review will help us do more production as well!
I am particularly pleased with how this camera handles colour -- fantastic results all over (even with the 'smaller' fixed-lens version I'm using). Simply match it against DSLR footage, and the JVC GY-HM200's (and -HM170's) results will stand out by a mile!
Thanks a lot man, your review really helped me make the decision.
Hello, thanks for your reviews on JVC GY-HM170. Will you be able to do one that show the 12x zoom and 24x dynamic zoom?
Will like to find out the quality of the dynamic zoom before making purchase.
Thanks a million!
Great review. Based on the comments, sounds like some people who have been unhappy with this camcorder might have realized it's too much camera for them. I've been using a Canon XF200 and Panasonic Ac160a and would love to add this to my collection.
Impressive! JVC is underrated.
Thanks for the review can you tell us what settings you used doing your lowlight test???
Another great video review. Wonder if you could give an example of your client base please. Thanks.
Brilliant Stuff I find you incredibly energetic and inspiring I am a break out film maker who has been dabbling in the 4k market for a while and like you it's brilliant to have
Your review is honest I know this and vouch for it after having use of the same camera for a short film and I found it lightweight comfortable easy I mean very easy to use
One thing I really really enjoyed was it's comfortable smooth zoom and out of tripod use
I (don't try this at home kids) actually rigged it to a pole and used it for drone effects and I was grateful it was light and the results were if I may spectacular I was impressed (KIDS REALLY DONT TRY IT I WAS EXPERIMENTING)
Why do some feel the need to hear reviews with critical points it's mainly due to the flooding of poor online reviews
I judge a review firstly on the quality of the presenter knowledge etc passion and expression then in the product I like the fact you just like it
Brilliant Stuff 😊
Product aside, you're a bloody good cameraman!
Thank you for this review. I just received mine in the mail. I managed to update the firmware, but I have a hard time making it work. I am not a professional (obviously), what resources can I use to learn how to operate this camera?
Excellent review. Great images. Thank you for your time and effort to produce this. I have been a 100% Canon fanboy from the moment I laid my hands on the XHA1 and then later added the 5DM2 and upwards from there. I have had a Canon XA20 and recently rented a XF400 and while the latter is an amazing camera, the weight of it is significantly heavier than I would have liked by about 20-30%. Also, there isn't the 4K options that this JVC HM200 has and no SDI out or 4.2.2 unless I upgrade the bankroll. Have you had experience with the XF400 and if so your comparative thoughts? If you haven't, any thoughts to add on my considering the JVC HM200 coming from a Canon environment? Also, I love that music. What is the name of the song and where did you acquire? Thanks again and looking forward to your response. Dr D
How does it cut with the bigger JVC LS300 while shooting J-Log? Have you found a receipt for making the HM170-HM200 shoot something similar to J-Log by black stretch, knee and color matrix settings? I am liking the JVC LS300 and looking for some B cameras.
Great review, can anyone please explain the audio settings, I'm having so much trouble with it over auto condensing, on manual or standard setting, through shotgun or onboard mics, it records very bad audio by default. Is there a magic button, or maybe any old shot gun mic will not do and you have to get another type? Also with this camera on default the lcd was set darker than what it records, so you assume it's right and the recorded vision ends up overbright, so LCD needs to be made darker to force you to bring the brightness down in your recording.
Massive thanks for this: I've been umming and ahing about a b-cam for the office DSLR that's around £2k. It's between this, Sony's X70 and Panasonic's X1000.
With Sony's £600 4k upgrade and poor codec and Panny's very average image filled with rolling shutter this is winning.
Hi, I was wondering what tripod you were using? Do you have any recommendations? Also can you clip a light on top of this camera? Thanks!
HELP! We have only owned this camera for a few days but I can not for life of me get both of our wireless mics to work. We have two wireless mics that go from the receiver right into the XLR connects. My meters on the LCD show I hear both mics, but once I pull the video off my chip, I can only hear one mic? Even the audio monitoring hears them both. I have spent HOURS on this and all I can find is reviews on this camera, no actual "how to setup and use" information. The manual says basically nothing helpful. I will have to return this entire setup if I cannot get it to work. Any help?
i'm comparing this with the "Panasonic HC-X1000" both same price range.. i'm a noob looking around.. nice channel btw. and also comparing this with a dslr..
I need help, I started using this camera about 2 months ago works great...but I noticed the last 2 times I used it i'm having real trouble in low light, even if its just slightly dark in the room or outside....if there is no direct fixed lighting its barley usable. faces and everything are black, and its even worse when zooming in..... PLEASE how can I fix this problem.
Hi there! Is this camera compatible with SD Extreme Pro 128GB cards please??
Thank you for your very nice review!
Mind me if I ask you, what lens filters do you use or recommend with this camera (if any)?
I mean, does a simple protective filter softens the sharp 4K or HD image out of it?
Do you feel the need for an IR filter? Apart from the electronic ND filter do you use any extra NDs?
+mpapadog Hi - I use a protective filter UV0 or UV1. ND filters are built-in - so you have them to use as you wish.
Cheers,
Rick
Hi Rick, I just saved up and got my jvc gy hm250, but the noise is quite alot, even when i set the gain to 0, how best can i reduce the noise, and get the best picture for my new camera, (i have sufficient light) please help!!!!!
Nice review. I am thinking about getting the JVC GY-HM170 or the Sony ax100. Do you have any opinion about these two cameras? How is the Image Stabilization on this camera? I read that the ax100 stabilization is not that good.
TheAwesomeSam Hi - I'm very impressed with the image stabilization on the GY-HM200. I can't comment on the AX100 as I haven't used it. I'm liking the GY-HM200 even more now after several weeks of use than I was during my first report. The camera has really grown on me. More footage up very soon, including low light tests. Cheers, Rick
Great review. Tell me, is this camcorder weatherproof/weathertight, particularly dustproof ?
no it is not, you might look for an action-camera instead
I am more impressed with the audio recorded on this video. It is obviously windy and I haven't heard the slightest bit of wind noise from your lav.
Please tell me what I might be doing wrong here. I have the HM170 and I can't seem to get rid of the grain (and it's not artful grain). I'm having real buyer's remorse (even though it wasn't my money). I'm really wishing I would have opted for a DSLR. Even my near entry level DSLR gets sharper moving images. Please advise. Thanks.
You might need to set AWB/9 (pressing the button will reset the white balance, be sure to have something white in the screen), The ND Filter can also make it grainy. When I began filming with this camera by default it filmed bright, setting ND Filter to 1/4 works great for shaded stuff. For dark scenes go ND Filter off, you'd need to set the camera to 30p or 25p/24p depending if you need NTSC or PAL or cinema. I've had issues with the XLR, the camera seems to be governing the input audio, condensing, I've set the XLR buttons to Manual and both dials to 10. Sorry not a pro, just trying to offer something I have not been able to get help with.
I have a JVC GY-HM180U 4K that has an A and STBY on the display and on the HDMI output. how can we remove the screen and output to be clean?
how do you setup audio to use the shot gun mic it came with?
Thanks for this informative review. How is the viewfinder?
Al.Dowbnia Good viewfinder! Not an incredible high-end viewfinder - however, certainly good for the job. I use it all the time, more so than the screen.
I have been having real difficulties filming (interview) people with dark skin color in low light conditions. Is there a way to adjust
settings or anything to remedy this? (lamps is not an option).
I guess it would depend on the location. If there are any natural light sources like the moon or maybe even a nearby street lamp (I know you said no lamps). The only setting you can do is turn up the ISO and bring your F-Stop to it's lowest setting. The more you zoom in - the higher the F-Stops, so you might want to limit or not zoom at all. Then you can go into an editor and do some post processing to bring out the scene - but if there are very dark areas with no information - you wont be able to do too much with out making to footage grainy and full of artifacts. Where is this being filmed? Why no lamps?
se conoce que hay una actualización para la GY HM200 para que pueda volver a transmitir a Facebook. conoce donde se puede descargar? me han pedido que envíe mi camara a Estados Unidos, pero el costo del transporte de ida y vuelta es mas costoso. como puedo obtener esa actualización?
He must love those Blue Herons.
Do you feel this would be a good choice for shooting church services from the back of the sanctuary?
Panasonic 4K-Camcorder HC-X1000 or JVC GY-HM200: 4K handheld camcorder? Which is the best to shoot indoor/low light events?
you have to look for HDR (high contrast recording)
Is an decent camera. However it will do OK outside, but inside you will need good lights otherwise the camera is way to dark for good quality. If you need a multi cam production camera you are better off with the GMY 600 or 650.
I have a question I'm one of the administrators of ARVEZ production. We do music videos, weddings, social events. Do you think this camera will be good to do that type of jobs?
no
We got one of these I bought three years ago.
Too bad Facebook made an update and we were unable to stream anymore.
And jvc does not do a Firmware Update to correct this.
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Hi, what kind of signal does the HDMI support? 4:2:2 8-Bit or 10-Bit HDMI Output ?
it is HDMI 1.4 standard, check out the specs
Can you help me: Why does the camera create new video files instead of putting everything into one video file?
Go to the Rec Mode located in the Record Set menu. Here you can switch between Clip Continuous and having the clips segmented. Switch between the settings and you will find you can then record one clip of any duration. Cheers, Rick
Is it compatible with the century optics Extreme fisheye lens?
i think what you looking for is the LS-300
no
(Now the HM250) I've had this for five days and did a test shoot at a dark but wild colour lit stage. I sat the JVC side-by-side with my long-time £400 LumixG7, with both cameras on 6k white balance.
The LCD is a absolute disaster. With a mic plugged in, I talked myself through what settings I was changing and described how it looked on LCD. Playing it back on PC; by the time I thought I'd got it right on-scene, it was a super-saturated stain on a black screen. YOU CAN NOT set your colour/brightness on the scene, IT IS NOT TRUE TO THE FOOTAGE.
It doesn't even have a balance spirit-level or touch-screen to pick your focus target, you can just choose Left/Centre/Right. If you sacrifice all your manual tweaking and just go for the full-auto method, you get auto facial detection. Whoopie doo.
Oh, and if you want to turn the mic volume dials, you need tweezers. Returning tomorrow and going for a GH5
Does this camera adhere to BBC HD broadcast standards?
this camera live-streams to the whole fucking world outside there, it is its own broadcasting standard
What's the difference between the JVC GY-HM200 and the JVC GY-HM170U Ultra 4K HD 4KCAM ?
the JVC GY-HM200 has live-streaming capabilities and has the handle on the top
Could you kindly give us an image stabilisation sample?
+tracklabstudios Right, because handheld JVC camcorders had notoriously awful image stabilization in the past. So I am wondering about the stabilizer as well.
in that case, try to look for a Panasonic one, which is not very professional, but may suit with the 4K to HD conversion while doing image stabilization and can also track by pre-definied position over the 4K image, means it creates video movements which you didnt do, but can program to be done with the 4K to HD downsizing
Hello Perth
Is that more k's than vhs? I think vhs is no-k.
Is this camera good for low light?
someone tested it, and said IT IS AMAZING, but i am not sure if it was the HM-200E or the LS-300, the video i saw was so damn good, and i still cant believe that this small camera is capable of such cinema-grade recordings
no
What are the actual dimensions of this camera?
its about 450 grams, (WxHxD): 135x190x263mm
professionals are getting stopped so much more often while shooting in public - they see a tripod - they think threat!
I have problems recording to an SD card on brand new JVC HM200E: Can anyone help?
Sd card is in slot A and i get the message: "Rec Inhibited" on all my new cards!
All there is a exclamation mark next to the Card slot letter A!
Card seems to format ok and Card lock is off and I'm using Sandisk Extreme Pro 32 gb 95 MB/s brand new cards class 10 - the 10 is in a circle on the card!
fijate en que resolucion estas grabando porque una resolucion de 4k no admite grabacion en una tarjeta que tenga menos de 95 mbs por segundo
So if you have 150mbps you need a giganitic hard drive to record 1h of video at an event?
+alexundersandu You're looking at around 68GB per hour so a 128GB SD card would work nicely for this.
you can HOT-SWAP the SD cards ... so you can put in two cards, and record on the first one, than swith to the second one, and then put in another card and than after your second card is full switch back to the third card in the first slot, and so on ...
does this come with a remote control???
you can use your smartphone or tablet as remote-control
What SD Card does it take?
It can accept any regular sized SD card, but the transfer rates of the card would mostly determine your write rate. I would stick with Sandisk.
for 4K you need Ultra High Density cards, that are Category 10 (speed)
la JVC GY HM 200 no tiene salida por sdi en 4K solo exporta señal 1080, muy mala elección al comprarla.. realmente no es 4K
WTF, why are you posting it at 1080p instead of 4K. I have a 4k monitor and flat screen. I also have the Sony FDR AX100 4K camcorder so there you have it.
Horrid camera, all around. I returned mine 5 minutes after unboxing it. Joystick was defective (would stick in the up-position and scroll uncontrollably. It would also stick if you used it to point to the right). Software was wrong too, it would allow 60i, 60p, 50i, 50p, 30p and 25p... no 24p!!!!! ALL the buttons are flimsy, cheaply made, giving the impression they would fall-off if you are not careful, specially the little rocker under the lens (meant for iris control). No way this camera can be used at night or in low light situations, regardless of format 4K/HD. NO WAY. Setting a custom white balance is still a mystery for me with this cam, you can select easily from the presets, but try to set the custom one... what the hell JVC? As I said, very disappointed.
Thank God I ordered from a very good supplier who allowed me to return it.
And thank you MM for posting your opinion and sharing your experience with camera. I hope my comments help inform others as well. This cam may work for some, but not for me.
Angel Janer It's shame you didn't give the camera more than 5 minutes. You can set the color temperature values between 2300K to 15000K (in 100K increments) Page 62 of the manual (free download) clearly shows Setting Values: 7500K, 6500K, 5600K, 5200K, 4800K, 4200K, 3200K. 3000K, 2800K. Furthermore, the camera records 30P, 25P, 24P (in 4K) - and also 60P and 50P in HD. Then there are the interlaced frame rates. This camera certainly isn't lacking in terms of frame rates. I'm impressed with the build quality of the camera. It doesn't feel cheap to me. The rocker under the lens you referred to - the iris wheel - this is a solid ring that certainly does not feel cheap. This can be customised. I've set the small wheel to shutter control and iris is controlled manually via a large ring at the back of the lens - just like on high-end cameras. On the lens I have separate rings for iris and focus, the wheel below, as mentioned, is for shutter. I find this to be a very convenient way to access the controls. I don't really think you gave the camera a thorough run-through - certainly no in the 5 minutes you spent with it!
The camera you received is very different from the one I got. Time will tell how consistent the production of this camera is. I know what the camera frame rates are supposed to be from the cams literature and reviews like yours (very complete and good by the way). But for some reason the one I got wasn't what it was supposed to be. I had the highest regard for JVC and for that reason was very disappointed. I really wanted this to be my next camcorder.
+Angel Janer with free firmware update, the camera also shoots 1080p 120 fps as well!
Angel Janer Returnin a camera after 5minutes?
These noobs I swear
Yep
CAN YOU PLEASE GIVE AWAY ON OF THOSE TO ME PLEASE I HAVE BEEN DIYING FOR ONE
Daniel WITUCKI lmfao
This camera is horrible, the colors are very dificult to adjust I particularly don't like it it record almost flat, the 4k look like 1080P
Looks worse than a gopro
The color sucks
You forgot to mention the Terrible PC software you have to use to get files off this camera.. It only saves in its .MTS and only very slowly converts to the obsolete WMV format. What a waste of a nice camera. This software is really bad, with no options to do anything. No Mpeg.. No AVI.. nothing
green323turbo I have found the integration with Mac to absolutely seamless! One of the easiest workflows I have encountered. The camera has different recording options: MPEG-4, AVC/H.264. I don't see why there would any issue working with these formats on a PC. Obviously you need decent editing software. With this camera I have found the workflow from camera to computer to be very straight-forward and trouble-free and very easy.
the camera will be recongized as an hard-disk when connecting to a computer, no extra software needed to get your data
green323turbo Even in MTS your editing softwate would recognize it. You need to update your software and computer