“The Indian State has Gone into Hiding in Manipur”- Harsh Mander, Former IAS Officer | Karan Thapar
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A former IAS officer, with extensive experience of handling communal crises in different parts of India, who has just returned after four “harrowing” days in Manipur, says: “The Indian state has gone into hiding in Manipur”. Harsh Mander was talking about the almost complete absence of any provisioning, care or outreach by the Indian state in the relief camps he visited both on the Kuki and Meitei side. Harsh Mander says the church is providing the care and support to Kuki relief camps whilst Meitei civil society organizations are providing care and support to Meitei camps. He adds that conditions in the camps is desperate and hopeless. The dominant emotion of the people there is one of anger and a realization that there is not much to hope for.
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Salute to you Mr Karan Thapar for keeping Manipur in focus. You are carrying the responsibility that mainstream media has abdicated. You would be remembered like a solo soldier who stuck to his post and continued battling while rest of the lot abandoned the battlefront. Hats off to you.
Thanks Karan for keeping Manipur in focus. Harsh Mander and his team have done a yeoman service to let the world know the reality.
😂😂😂😂 traitor!!!😂😂😂😂
kuki is whole responsibility for this mess. ..a myanmar community who is right hand of China ..trying to destroyed india NE..now they are saying sperate state..after that they will demand sperate country...called Zalengam or kuki land combining whole chin ,saigang,part of Myanmar ,and some part of Manipur and part of Bangladesh and mizoram....its threat to the national security of the country...
My hearteist salute to Mr Karan thapar.
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We should be grateful to Karan and Harsh Mander, for bringing the reality to public domain.
And Rohingyas!
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State forces and meitei employees will be killed by Kuki militants if they go to Churanchanpur. How do you expect them to help? It is not prejudice like they would have you believe. The right question is whether the central govt can exert the rule or law and if they can provide security those who can help. If not, no employee from the valley is going to Kuki areas
Real? Which real? Half real. Where's the other half? He says its a war zone with sophisticated weapons. Did Karan drill into where these lethal weapons Kukis are using are coming from? If Kuki MLA has asserted something on his show, that becomes his Bible!
Ooolooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooo oooooo
A very good interview, without any bias, from a neutral perspective. Mr Harsh, your sincerity in analyzing and understanding the issue is highly appreciated. Keep doing the good work.
PM Modi's remark "Democracy is in the DNA of India" is the most hypocritic statement of the decade!
Mind Begs the Question:
If under a PM/Govt
2 Genocides carried out
Involving Beheadings,Gang Rapes
PM/Govt must - Continue, #Resign ?
Why are you all gunning the wrong man, what can the poor man do its very complicated its the CM that looks directly of a state And the prime minister cannot just say anything in this complex issue because one wrong sentence will be the WW3 of Manipur so the next time the PM spoke about Manipur will be the final verdic of the Country Head.
@@mygamekips171so Modiji is just prime of India officially on paper😅😢
@@mygamekips171poor Modi...but extremely rich in self glorification.
@@mygamekips171
Like his doing nothing in Gujarat in 2002 massacre!
Thank you sir Thapar and sir Mandar for bringing the real picture of the situation of Manipur.
Harsh is a living Angel. Thank you Karan to show him on your show.
As a common man how can I help the people of Manipur? Thank you Sir for your non stop effort in bringing their plight to light
You can help by bringing out the truth and you need ask the question 'WHY' from the start. Google on the topic 'poppy plantation' , 'SOO agreement' , 'HM promise to the kuki miltants'. These are related. And it is just the tip of the iceberg of this conspiracy.
Long Live Manipur...
1.implement NRC
2.Destroyed narco terrorism
3.aborgate KUKi SOO agreement
4.Sent back kuki refugees to Myanmar
5.Booked all the culprits of this kuki war
In times of ethnic conflicts, it is a common experience that lots of fake narratives and fake news are spread or circulated.
I would say, not to blindly believes any media house or news channel.
Look at the statistics, and be the judge yourself.
DEMOGRAPHICALLY
Manipur comprises of the MEITEI (who are 53% of the population) - settled in the valley, and next is the KUKIS (14% who settled in the hills), and also the NAGAS (24%) who settled in the hills.
GEOGRAPHY
10% of the land area is valley, fertile, accessible, developed with all the modern facilities, government the offices, hospitals and other infrastructures are all accessible here. And mostly, the Meitei Community lives here.
While the other 90% is hills, the Kukis and Nagas lives here - which is mostly hilly terrains, inaccessible, lacking infrastructure on health care and commerce and mostly neglected.
POLITICS (GOVERNMENT)
Out of the 60 seats, 40 seats belongs to the meitei community and the other 20 seats is occupied by the tribals (10 seats each from Naga and Kuki).
HISTORY
Ever since time immemorial, the meitei had always settled in the valley ruled by their Maharaja, had never lived or settled in the hills.
While the Kukis and the Nagas are tribal who has their own Chief has their leaders. And they had always settled in the hills and are happy with the hills.
Manipur (formerly known as Kangleipak) was the 650 sq miles valley ruled by Maharaja, and it came under British subjugation in 1891.
And for the ease of administration, the Britishers clubbed the surrounding hills with the valley. And term them outer Manipur and Inner Manipur.
And after Indian Independence, the Congress clubbed the hills and the valley as one union territory giving the tribals some autonomy to protects their lands (hills) through HAC (Article 371 C). But unfortunately, these HAC are not given power and not given due importance as how 371 C stated.
What is currently happening ?
Some people will say, it’s because of the MEITEI demanding for ST quotas.
Some says its religious issue or BJP Adhani plantation and so on. They are all partly true to some extend.
BUT THE MAIN ISSUE IS LAND ISSUE.
The valley population wanted more lands, and under the constitution of India, the tribals lands are protected (they cannot be bought by the valley people who are General, OBC, SC). So they wanted to become an ST which their king spat on when offered to be part of it, during post-independence.
Now, for greed of more lands and job quotas, they started demanding to be an ST.
So, we now affirm the meiteis wants tribals lands. If they want tribals lands. Then they have to attack the tribals villages and displaced the tribal and chase them away from their lands. And to justify their action, they have to make up their own narratives by painting a bad image about the tribals (Kuki particularly) so comes narratives like and to justify displacing them out their lands - they will say impose NRC - why ??
The meiteis themselves are government now, and through these NRC, they will alleged the whole community as an illegal immigrants by ethnically cleansing them and chase them away from their own lands.
And mind you, the state government had completely collapsed since May 3 and the government are the meiteis themselves now.
Now you can know who attacks and who defends. Who are the victims and who are the culprits.
Be the judge yourself and sees how violence can be stopped.
Thank you Karan and Harsh for bringing the ground reality. Praying for our brothers and sisters to live in peace and harmony. More importantly for the state and central govt to step up in love and compassion and do what they are bound to do as leaders in line with the Constitution of India.
Can you kindly include Mrs Brinda Thounoujam, former police officer from Manipur in your next interview who was a whistle-blower about the drug smuggling happening in Manipur.
Yes absolutely 👍
Now She changed her title slowly . Anyway one of the most i like to see in this channel.
Yes, only Karan can reveal her true colour
naaah...no more meitei,99% are communal as fck
Bindra has changed the communal issue into a drug issue, what she said about drugs is true but, this violence is not about drugs, it is communal clash.
Huge respect to Sir Karan Thapar and Harsh Mander for bringing up the real picture of Manipur and for sharing the pain with the people..
State budget for one year 3400 crores
Valley= 3300 crore (60% population)
Tribal= 100 crore (40% population)
Reasons Tribal don't have a a good development, they don't have good hospital good education
Now the tribal land and right are about to be abandoned again 😢
Lies ..hills get 45 %. Check nagaland post if you don't believe meiteis
Yes the same people who loot banks and ATMs in broad daylight. Burn down Govt property, collection of tax from Shop. Yes out of that 40 pc 20 are in valley with only 8 pc of accomodable land. Hight of hypocrisy is another level.
It is true that More money are spent in Valley than the Hills but your stats in not correct 😂 You are adding masala
Kuki narco terrorist net worth:7500 crore
STORIES are DIFFERENT..
Meiteis innocent civilians, students are let leave tribal lands without harm, without intimidation & peacefully.
Kuki innocent civilians, students are hunted down, tortured, raped, killed, chased away like animals from imphal valley meitei land. Who if not for the Assam Rifles, would all have been killed by the Arambai tenggol, Meitei Leepun, Meitei mobs, Meira paibis & Meitei police commandos.
Thanks to Assam Rifles 🙏
Meiteis also saved many kuki brother & sisters from Imphal valley ,I promise
After visiting Kuki-Zo dominated areas...even pro-meitei would feel guilty to talk bad thing about Kuki-Zo community 🙏
Bro we felt bad already frm the day one but your leaders are still asking for the worst.
I am a meitei doctor. Will I be allowed to come to Churachandpur and render my services to the displaced? And allowed to return home safe?? In one piece? Will I get fooding and lodging if I want to stay for some days to help out?
The answer is a resounding "no!"
@@raven9ifycome brother
@@naggraaaj11 let someone from Churachandpur answer.
@@raven9ify im from lamka not from churachanpur
Huge respect for Harsh Mander..
Thank you Mr. Karan for relentlessly covering Manipur. Every day, I look forward to your interviews, you are one of the few selected actual journalists left in our country. Hats off to you Sir for your " fearless journalism", literally true to every sense. As we painfully watch the total incompetency of the central and state governments in dealing with Manipur violence unfolding right in front of our eyes, your unbiased interviews give some hope to ordinary people like us. God bless you and your team!
Meeteis will soon say these two are bought out by the kukis again
They will 100%
In a better civilized country, Karan Thapar would be the most watched and reputed journalist
Thanku Mr. Thapar - Manipur weighs in every Indian's heart. We pray for normalcy n peace to returnin this State soon.
Its heartbreaking to hear those horrific tragedies faced by the innocent victims. 😢 May peace amd healing prevail soon.
We are always with neutral and intellectual media and Karan Thapar.❤😂🎉😢😮😅😊.
Shaadi krlo 😂❤
Harsh Mandal is a man with many eyes which he uses to read between the lines. His ability to understand any crisis situation is superb. I hope the current dispensation in Manipur and the center listen to him.
Utter disregard and prejudice on the part of the ruling dispensation. State and centre has totally turned the other way, ignoring the humanity crisis. Thanks to the church for upholding the principles of service to mankind.
Well said.
Thank you both for bringing up the reality of the situation as it is.... May God bless you both 🙏🙏🙏
Hi Karan, I was there at Imphal for 28 days. No idea about the kuki relief camp on the kuki side but for valley based Relief camp, the displaced people specially the Meiteis want only guns to kill the kukis who displaced them. They are not asking for either food or money but they only want guns to take revenge. That's my finding over there.
Another drama being meeteis
Hmmm Meitei 😅
@@mangangpoirei6924#MeiteiRapist #MeiteiLiesMatter
Real Meiteis don't visit Manipur for 28 days😅 why you are so afraid of using your real name or tribe😊
What will you do when it happens to you?What will you do if your son or daughter went missing in the kuki dominated area and no investigation were done? .. That's from both side because they have lost everything their hope their dream their land, I am not saying all the KuKi all the meitei are asking for gun but from both side there are people who want to kill other . Those kuki millitian who don't know any language ( Hindi, manipuri, English) other than their kuki language , no adhar no Id... should we call them illiterate or outsiders.And we Meitei never demand for Meiteiland we only want to live together since Manipur is a mixture of many communities. LET US NOT BE SELFISH AS IF YOU R THE ONLY ONE SURVIVING IN THIS EARTH..AS IF U R IMMORTAL
Truly beautiful minds of India ❤️ Huge respect to these men for their wisdom & maturity.
Thank you so much Sir Karan for letting us know the current status of Manipur with distinct clarity, all thanks to the incisive questions you ask your guests!
The guest didn't disappoint either with clear & fair answers & even gave the best possible solutions to stop the violence. Clearly, this man has more zeal to solve the issue than our HM Amit Shah.
I wonder what he, Amit Shah, was doing during the 4 days visit to Manipur? His peace deal failed so miserably that it broke down the same day it was set up. Do we have an Incompetent HM ???? Yes!!! High time to resign. The violence is now 3 months old but the HM has ZERO SOLUTION. What a shame for the leaders of the largest Democratic Country. Sardar Patel must be turning in his grave watching Amit Shah as the HM.
Very interesting conversation without biased .. Thank you so much .
Mr Thapar & Mr Mander . 👏🏽
If Gujarat 2002 and Manipur 2023 is similar then the root is only one its clear...
cabal's child human and drug trafficking..
Very Very Very good conversation 👌🏻
I never forget during conversation with pm modi, with your one question, he drink glass of water and left 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Silent on non bjp ruled states... ?
Yeah😂😂😂 interview is different from debate
Thank you so much Sir Karan Thapar for always uncovering the truths which many people wanted to hide through your interview.
And a big thank you note goes to Sir Harsh Mander for telling the whole world the real and ugly truth.
"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God" Mathew 5:9
If your right eye cause you to sin it is better to cast out your eye than your whole part be cast to hell
Fantastic interview. A very clear question and precise answers. Both state and central government have let down not only people of Manipur but entire country.
Thank you Karan Thapar for always bringing everyone fearless journalism and most importantly the unbiased truth. More power to you and kudos !
Karan thankyou for bringing this man in your show. I love how he gave his answer unbiased. Hats off to you Sir!!❤
Face is the index of the mind. Eyes are the mirror of the soul. In any conversation, the face tells it all. Happy to hear some good stories of good souls in Manipur even today. We need love, peace and humanity to reign.
Superb. My heart and admiration goes out to Harsh Mander and his courageous colleagues. Thank you Karan Thapar for this.
Sir you're the best interviewer . You are the one who asked so many hard questions at that time we can know the real fact.
Which hard question?
@@anandreddy2066 have u watch all the interviews done by mr karan. Why do modi drink water and leave his interview with karan. Just like that meitei never responded to the karan question they ran aways
@@Traveller594 yes that's what I am pointing! Mr Karan is a contract journalist, presstitute! I have seen the difference of his interviewing meitei side and kuki side!
@@anandreddy2066 yes, the question he ask according to his guest ,e.g . cocomi say dont surrender looted weapon to the govt , but when cocomi spoke man interview he say we never say about this.
The Meiteis and Kukis need to stop blaming each other. 99.99% of people from both communities are good people, it is the 0.01% who are fuelling this tragedy for their own selfish ends.
Nah fam...Meiteis are still looting my neighbourhood in Imphal right now. I don't think "good" people would loot the houses of people who ran for their lives.
@@v.kipgen8732nana kukies are looting meetei paddy field and hen cow dog from Meetei houses
One of the 0.01% replied in your comment above 👆
@@luwangcha9183 Why are meiteis so obsessed with stealing two wheelers and refrigerators?😂
Is it to store ngari?
@@luwangcha9183 it's true you guys are still persistent on attacking kuki villages even while iam talking right now
Harsh sir is one of the rare down to earth social activists of India.... Jai Hind sir 🙏😊
Kuki Paite, Kuki Naga are living together even after all those horrific ethinic clash, so why not Meitei Kuki. Time will heal but first Peace should be there and call be peace from both side. If one side keep on sticking to Separate administration with no other option of dialogue then the common civilian will continue suffering
Now it's state sponsored ethinic cleansing.
“Religious fanaticism has clearly produced, and in all probability will continue to produce, enormous amounts of bickering, fighting, violence, bloodshed, homicide, feuds, wars, and genocide.”
- Albert Ellis
Mind Begs the Question:
If an organization aims
To destroy Religions
But World majority Religious
More likely - will admit they plan to destroy Religions and put a target on themselves,will infiltrate Religions power hierarchy by deceit and turn Religions against each other so Religions destroy themselves?
Fanatacism feeds fanatacism fueled by the bjp communal party. As long as people back the evil , hate and violence will continue unabated
@@MrAntonysimonwe need to vote out parties who support fanaticism
Wow
This interview has been very insightful & clear. Thank you Karan for bringing such reasoning & unbiased people for your interviews. I pray & hope the Governments (Centre & State) take these suggestions made by our Former IAS Officer...
Thank you Harsh Mander and especially you Mr Thapar for doing such excellent deep dives with all concerned in the on going conflict in Manipur. This series on Manipur has educated me so much on so many things. God bless you both.
Thank you Karan Thapar for bringing out truth, the reality from all prominent personalities.
Very tormenting situation. What kind of EVIL can further inflict agony upon bereaved family members by not allowing proper burial?
Is there no NGO in India to ease the pain?
Let there be President Rule.
Huge respect to the Karan sir and Harsh sir... A very good interview.
Thanks karan for your relentless interviewing of the Manipur crisis else we would not have known whats going on there!!!!
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I have a humble req frm ppl like Karan thapar.
Pls focus on relief work of kukis especially childern getting something to nutritious food to eat. If kids by now are surviving on rice mixed with water and salt and malnutrition increasing than soon we will see extreme cases of malnutrition of above all in worst case scenario deaths related to it.
Pls firce centre to either relase food n various relief work for kukis and also force them give various amt of centre funds for sich activities.
32:55 No sir, the sufferings are not the same at all. The atrocities committed against the Kuki-Zos by the Majority Meiteis far outweighs the suffering of the Majority Meiteis.
Thank q Sir Harsh Mander,a man known for speaking truth to power, for sharing the raw truth boldly in an open platform. You felt us so deeply of how voiceless and hopeless the Kukis are in a Meitei majoritarian dominance. Thank you so much. It was very satisfactory when bureaucrats of high knowledge and experience physically inspecting on the absolute failure of Manipur's govt. Highest respect to both of you Sir.
Thank you for this insight and I am thinking what can be done to help.
" Reservoirs of Goodness ! "
Looks like this will be the Title of your Book ! Sir !
God bless you !
Thank you Sir Karan Thapar. You are respected journalist and without biased. The truth must come out and justice shall prevail to all those who suffer.
Our sufferings are never the same in the first place. And there is no way we can live together with the Meiteis.
And yes if the culprits are to be arrested maybe almost all the valley people are to be arrested. I am sorry to say this but this is the truth!
The state has withered away
And is partisan
What is the Central Govt doing
Why is Biren Singh still in office
No matter what it is.. separate administration is the only solution...✊
*Karan love you. You were the one who made feku drink water by your true and bitter arguments*
🤩🤩🤩 very uncomfortable position.
Just imagine if he would have interviewed Muhammad 😂😂😂😂
Great work. We need more such interviews and discussions to take place for information to pass on to the viewers living an unaffected lives.
I am longing for a leadership who can heal the wounds from both the sides. Can Manipur give that leadership?? Any able nagas and meitei pangals in Manipur who can do this job?? M rooting for that leadership and my Nobel peace prize automatically goes to him/her.
Only kuki can bring peace if they are whole leader
I salute you both... looking & listening to you both, i feel that true jounalism still surviving....❤
Great job. Mr. Harsh Mander The Wire and Team .
Thanks Karan & Harsh Mander for presenting fairly balanced analysis & probable solutions
A very wonderful interview. Indepth and bring out the ground reality.
If meiteis are truthful,why there is no support from outside state of manipur? Why ther is no really or protest in other state in support of meiteis? But Thousands, lakhs an million people's support KUKIS from all around the world. Coz people are not fool's Anymore.
Every neighbouring states knows the truth now and condem meitei only. Their CM is also a meitei and why he didnt imposed PR makes it clear that CM wants the violence to continue which he started.
Money, man money. U know I know everyone knows
Thats because the media is biased, they have painted meitei as the villain without understanding how the violence started in kuki dominated place called churachandpur.
Brilliant as always..Thank you sir
Thank you Thapar Sir for relentlessly standing up for the truth and not cow down in the face of injustice but boldly present the ground reality of the present violence in Manipur before your audiences. Thank you Harsh Mander Sir for sharing us your account and assessment of what’s happening in Manipur.
Hi Karan Thapar sir,
Why don't you take an interview with Thounaojam Brinda an IPS former lady Cop in Manipur?
At least many people will see what lies in Manipur in the present scenario.
Amazing and very interesting..
Thanks for sharing this interview..
I do appreciate Mr. Karan Thapar for the bold and fair interviews especially on Manipur issue...!!
This was a much needed. Ground reality.
Absolutely Love Your Program Sir 💪
Thank you Mr Thapar for keeping Manipur constantly in conversation as the establishment seems to have forgotten.
Thank you both 🙏
Love 💕 immense and respects for Honest journalist Izzatmaab Harsh Mander sahab..
The central governments lack of response or help for its own citizens is incomprehensible 😳
❤thank you for this
Thank you Sir for bringing the real picture of the current violence in this show..
Karan Sir, In My View We The Mainland Indian People Should Come Forward For The Humanitarian Aid In The Releif Camp From All Parts Of Our Country Irrespective Of Political Colour. THIS Relief Matterial Should Be Distributed Through The Help Of Army Men, Now Deployed At Manipur, Thus The Involvement Of Mainland People In The Releif Work Will Certainly Restrain The Two Groups From The Clash.
karan sir ?to this traitor who gets funded by george soros?
thank you for delving into bringing out the true facts of what's goin on.
Hi Karan incredible work by you and the wire.
I have a question... Why do people from the mainland India do not have a say on this issue. Politicians/ commentators etc
With every passing day, the more I hear or read from various sources... it's evident that the CM of Manipur has to step down.
The people, especially the Meitei community, have been terribly misled with foolish claims and allegations put in motion by the CM himself and certain other "leaders" with vested interests.
Fantastic interview ever Karan. Keep moving that may bring smile to both the communities.
Love, Care, Share, Forgiveness and Peace & Hope !
Very informing and factual interview by Mr. Karan Thapar
Thank you for the coverage.
This is the genuine journalism that brings the reality to light with facts
Mr thapar... Thank you for doing real journalism... Now please find us some links of any organisation to whom we can send help
Harsh mander 🙏
❤❤❤❤❤❤
Let love take the front seat and hate be gone.
Thank You for being a light of Hope, Reason , Empathy...... For healing in both community. Forgiveness and humility will bring Peace in both community. 🇮🇳
Sir Karan thapar is a man who can only search and says what is right and wrong in his own country especially right now the unrest of manipur
The best interview😊
Thank you for this interview.
thanks for bringing up the truth 🙏
We deeply appreciate both Karan sir and Harshji for your hard work
Thank you for emphasizing the human nature of this suffering. Praying for leaders who will rise up to the needs of this critical time.
Thanks!
Thank you Karan Sir for keeping up with Manipur Violence.
Thanks
The present state of the nation is a reminder for all awakend citizens to shun all such political gangs who operate on the lines of divisive politics... be that of cast , sub-cast , class , groups , creed , gender or community...
🙏
Very very true
THANKS HEAVEN, WE STILL HAVE HONEST CITIZENS WHO CALL SPADE A SPADE...JAI HIND!!!👍👍