I forgot that one of the translations I read said that these serpents are 10 palms in "girt". Meaning that they're 30 inches around. That too is correct for a large retic.
Especially with a meal. Plus, they probably thought all snakes were the same, to a degree. There may have been some bigger version of one that unhinged their jaw, since they were hunting them for profititable gall. Some shit never changes. Oh, sorry. Also, those vestigial claws could have been a lot more prominent, more often then. Thankyou Aron!
I know where average height comes from and there must ve been wealth of food back in the day to have 5"7 as average.Here in more barren Finland,averages were smaller.Beds from 1700/1800 are popular interior design items as to their pleasing size and style.People did not weigh as much here either.I still wonder about that 5"7 average,not thinking it isn t accurate.
Did sound weird, until I switched it from 10 palms diameter to 10 palms circumference; the it just continued to drop together! I'm curious how well the snake gets on with the rest of your menagerie... or do you keep them separate, so you don't end up with a Matryoshkan menagerie!? :D What no moonlight skinny-dipping in the Silurian seas!? :D
You get the feeling that anybody who meets a large carnivorous dinosaur close up and in the flesh is more likely to be lunch than the author of a description of the encounter.
Well many were herbivorous, although they may go after you and try to stomp you or wack you with their tail if they see you as a threat, especially if they have young like many animals do to protect them.
The large theropod carnivores would probably not waste energy going after something the size of a human. The smaller ones though, they might see humans as prey, or competition.
@@FrozEnbyWolf150-b9tFull grown adult T. Rex probably wouldn't see you as potential food, but younger, smaller, and faster individuals definitely would see you as food.
@@ExtremeMadnessX depends on how much contact those dinosaurs would've had with humans historically and what is their natural prey. It is a very common phenomenon in apex predators to ignore animals of perfect size for them to hunt if they didn't evolve alongside those animals as prey. If anything, it's a default. And the exceptions support the rule. The main exceptions are animals that live in very harsh conditions where prey encounters are rare and the risk is worth it (see polar bears), animals that got injured and can no longer defeat their primary prey (man-eating tigers and lions usually fall into this category) and animals either in captivity, so extremely familiar with humans, or in a habitat basically destroyed by humans in terms of usual prey. On the contrary, lions, bears, leopards, jaguars, sharks, wolves and many others usually do not hunt humans if their usual prey is available. If those dinosaurs would have an extensive evolutionary history of hunting primates, though, we'd have a bad day. Until we made them extinct, that is.
Yep! I often wondered why the Bible didn't include things like "the huge swift lizard with many teeth" that over a few months carried away half the villiage and devoured the prophet Samuel (a different one).
Don't forget some sailors supposedly telling the tales of people with head of a wolf or jackal on remote islands. That clearly proves furry girls exist irl.
"Squeegee everything you thought you know and start from scratch"... then the guy proceeds to say "now assume one random ancient creation myth is the word of a supernatural deity". Why the hell would we not squeegee that too?
I used to own a 16' African rock python ...she couldn't eat an Elephant but I'd lay a bet she could have scared the shit out of one If she was in a bad mood .
Asian water monitor? That's my best guess for the beast of Korizon. Hanyusuchus was around at that time too. Edit: Malayopython reticulatus! Very nice...
I like how Dutko keeps calling things "censored" when they are simply ignored for being either outright false (e.g. all these dinosaur claims) or just irrelevant (e.g. not diving into each chapter of a historic book). Sir, only publishing true and relevant things is not censorship!
When they do try something new, like 'soft tissue', they get it just as spectacularly wrong. Maybe even more so because they haven't have 80 years to hone the lies.
Although they do tweak it every time a new gap they can squish god into opens up, or to use different words than the other apologist, the methods and ways they try to make it sound true, the logical fallacies, and lying, hasn't changed for centuries!
I was raised 7th Day Adventist and I had to hear the same things. I've been Atheist for a long time but I'm still in touch with some of my friends from school. Yeah, I was sent to SDA schools too. A friend told me the he talked to our 5th grade teacher and she was so excited about going to see Noah's Arc Park in KY. She has to be in her 80s now. And she was a teacher. The religious simply reject reality.
On episode 20 of the “Supposed Lies in the Textbooks” series I posted this: I would like to remind everyone that Aron is responding to just one of Hovind’s seminars. We are at episode 20 right now and we are still not done! Well, here we go again!
A series on Hoewinds or any one of many apologists stupidity could run as long as "One life to live", or "General Hospital"... my mom used to watch that , and it ran for decades!
@@55Quirll Really" I couldn't stand it, but really I never got into any series like that, not even sitcoms unless really funny which many were not. When my parents weren't home or otherwise occupied I scanned the channels for documentaries, and things to learn from.
@@55Quirll He's the bottom of the barrel and easy to debunk, and he doesn't even put up a good fight, he just makes claim after claim and evades giving real answers, and when pressed he just gets insulting and acts like a child. If you haven't already, you need to move up to William Lane Craig, then Frank Turek and some of the apologists with more serious understanding of science and philosophy who also get debunked but as you move up the ladder they become harder nuts to crack without the content creator getting into the details, and you will need to be on the ball to catch some of the tricks they use to put their opponent on the spot, or else see a BS answer or statement as a real possibility when they are not. They all get debunked in the end and not one of them has ever asked a question, that cannot be answered at least with "I don't know, and neither do you, nor anyone else, because it's way beyond our scope to even investigate, and your unsubstantiated claim that comes with no actual evidence whatsoever, isn't an answer!". Learning philosophy in more detail is really important in being able to take on these cons yourself, and one of the best is Matt Dillehunty, who has debated and shredded the best of the best in apologetics, and was One of "The three horseman of Atheism" with Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris, has his own a channel "Atheists debate", and is on "The line" very often which does call in shows where the hosts mostly take on believers who call in, and although he can get really harsh, and uses a lot of foul language for doing it for over 4 decades, fielding callers that have watched him many times, and should know he's not easily defeated, and yet they come in with some of the weakest arguments, get cocky, evade questions left and right, including very simple Yes or No ones with no other option, nor any needed, so I can see how it gets to him and rather like it, because I myself am very similar, just nowhere near as good... but if you pay close attention you will learn a lot from him! Aron is also on the Line often, sometimes with Matt as well as other well known Atheists you can learn a lot from depending on what you already know. I am also big on science content, but stick to the channels that actually do cover real science, not any of the hundreds of woo peddlers, grifters and morons who think they understand science that really don't. On that note Thunderf00t (zeros, not capital o's) is both, an accomplished and well cited scientist, and atheist/pseudoscience debunker, with a humorous side too, so tripple score! He does real experiments on camera, and filmed some in labs, and he's shredded Elon musk so often and so hard, showing him as the science novice/conman he really is, that Musk's fanbois (Musk Rats) made hundreds of videos trying to make him look bad... so he took them on too, and made fools of the whole lot of them in exquisite fashion to the point some of their channels got so bombarded with people doing the same in their comment sections that some turned off comments, removed videos he used to debunk them, and at least a few even closed their channels!
I have had a friend for over forty years. He has been telling me throughout that time about seeing a wild moose near our childhood homes in the suburbs of Los Angeles. Moose are not native to this region. It is certainly possible that a captive moose escaped and that my friend saw it. It seems much more likely, however, that he simply misidentified something else that he actually saw. Witness testimony is notoriously inaccurate.
It happens every year that at the start of deer hunting season people have their horses and cows fall victim to people from the cities who have never seen a deer, horse, or cow and don't know the difference. These are the type of people who are also responsible for the invention of camo toilet paper. Hunters in the woods who are doing a number 2 have fallen victim to the same sort who see a flash of white and don't check their targets. What people see, and what they think they see can be two very different things.
@@mindcraftyD13 I my area during hunting season out comes the orange coats for horses, and orange paint for cattle. one of THE number one rules for hunting is ALWAYS identify your target. Yet every year without fail idiots harm and possibly kill others.
@@mindcraftyD13 WOW, you still would have to be stupid as F! I'm from Chicago and can tell a crocodile from an alligator, a moose from a northern European deer buck (much larger than the ones here), buffalo from bison's; Way too many Americans call bison buffalo, and not only are bison indigenous to northern America and no where else, we have no buffalo here but in zoos, and who the F can't tell a horse from a mile away? Are you saying city folk get worse education than lets say the bible belt which now includes Ohio and then some? I think you are mistaken! You did mention can't tell what they are seeing, well, maybe they just cannot see them clearly or only partially... but no way people who hunt can't tell a horse, cow or deer, because they use pictures of them for target practice, and to show what exactly to aim for for a kill shot The toilet paper/rabbit mistake I can see, but not the rest. I have heard stories of stupid hunters shooting at deer with a field of grazing cows or horses behind it and taking one out for missing the target! You're supposed to know to not do that too!
@@mindcraftyD13 That bit about the toilet paper is absolutely terrifying. I used to go hunting with my grandpa as a kid. He made damn sure I understood never to shoot until I could see its whole head, or better yet, the eyes. Idiots with guns are the reason why we need harsher laws. It's hunting season and you want a license? Gotta pass this exam first, which not only includes gun safety but basic survival tips like how to bank a fire or recognize poisonous mushrooms/berries in the area. We do it for driving, which is probably the most dangerous thing people do almost every day. Why not for handling actual weapons?
Just last year, a town right outside of Berlin held its breath for two or three days because some guy had seen - and captured on video! - an animal he thought was a female lion. His sighting prompted a large-scale search effort that was only canceled when people came to realize the "lion" was, in all likelihood, just a wild hog.
with alligator and snake trappers its incredibly common for people to call in saying there is a massive animal. the trapper gets there and 9 out of 10 times its like a 2 foot snake. or they say its a 12 foot gator and it turns out to be like 6 feet.
Strange how all of the things Dutko says are censored actually aren’t censored. I wonder if he has some alterior motive in saying that. Like his platycephalic audience won’t go looking for them since they’re “censored” and accidentally find out he’s lying to them. Incidentally, the “Korazan” mentioned in the text may be referring to Kwharazm, an area in modern Afghanistan I think, which once had a large empire that was destroyed by the mongols, and thus “ruled by the great Khan.”
Agreed. When I saw the names Karazan and Kogatin I thought of Khorasan and Chagatai. Khorasan was a region stretching from northern Iran, through parts of Uzbekistan and Afghanistan, possibly to where the Hindu Kush meets China, and was conquered by the Mongols in 1219-1221. Chagatai was one of the sons of Genghis Khan who took part in this campaign and inherited it after his father's death in 1227; he ruled there until his death in 1242 and was succeeded by one of his sons. If Polo reported on the porcelain that was traded there from India he could well have heard stories from other travellers to northern India, which would be within the modern range of reticulated pythons. The later Chagatin Khanate of the time of Polo's travels towards the end of the century also included territories further east and bordering on Nepal (again within the modern range of pythons). There are plenty of opportunities there for fantastical stories of monstrous creatures to have spread.
@@RichWoods23 very true. And that’s not even talking into account the very human tendency to take interesting animals with them to distant lands. There’s plenty of ways for him to hear of them.
He says it because it reemphasizes non-creationists as conspirators and creationists as the oppressed in their minds. Scientists are Satan-worshipping liars, fooling the world, and shysters like this saying those kinds of things drives that belief home for them. I don't think it's to scare people away from checking the sources; he knows his audience won't do that anyway. He knows he could say literally anything that fits their worldview and they'd believe him.
If anybody gets to Alice Springs in central Australia, climb the "Gap"which is the entry to the Alice, I did once, the air at the top was so "sweet" above the pollution I believe, it felt like you could almost eat it, thinking the air must have been the same all over the country before European settlement and I find reading early historians, they love to embellish, exaggerate, so these "accounts" I read with a " pinch of salt". (These two descriptions are fine as the content was about time past etc.)
Tbh a religion that's not abusive towards its followers can have benefits, such as the sense of community, regardless of its validity. Just look at Japan where even many irreligious people still practice shinto.
@@missk1697 I agree w that as far as secular community. It may be argued that any religion that posits a god is lying and therefore abusive. But a gathering of folks w a singular purpose perhaps-that’s always powerful
2:50 Exaggerations are common in ancient Roman writing, even with generally reliable authors such as Pliny. Julius Caesar's histories are a case in point. They are essentially correct but he exaggerated some things, usually to make himself look better.
Even if Marco Polo had described a large late cretatios theropod, it would have been more likely to have been the asian Tarbosaurus than american Tyranosaurus.
Hah, even if a relict population of dinosaurs were to exist in some remote place on Earth, that would not be evidence for the existence of any invisible, supernatural god.
Also, this is pure speculation but I imagine, back then, when there were much fewer people an much more natural environment, that it would not be out of order to see the largest examples more frequently. So if the world record in modern times is 30 something feet, 30 foot long pythons were probably more common back then.
19:51 "I can't believe I never heard any of this stuff before." Like what? I've heard it all and it's all bad. It's all an excuse to believe what you want in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. And repeated so often it's hard to believe there are people who haven't hear it.
There were plenty of big predatory theropods in Europe, like Megalosaurus, Neovenator, and Torvosaurus, but of course, creationists don't know anything about dinosaur/archosaur diversity beyond what they saw in Jurassic Park XD
I have see footage of crocodiles temporarily living in holes in the ground during the dry season. I don’t think they dug the holes themselves but rather they used other animals’ dens. It must have been in Africa, because I seem to remember there were giraffes in the same documentary.
8:00 Famously Rustichello da Pisa writes the "Travels of Marco Polo" based on the accounts Polo gave him while they were both prisoners of the Genoese. Polo was a prisoner in the period 1296-99.
In an era before photography and light-speed data transfer, it's far easier to understand why monstrous creatures were believed in after a centuries long game of telephone describing an animal.
"It's all been covered up" is the second most desperate grasp creationists make when their lies don't hold water. Number one, of course, is threatening you with God's judgement and eternal torture, because not letting frauds have their way is the greatest sin of all.
I think both the Pliny python and Heroditus cobra, are a lot more plausible. And snakes can get huge in the right environs. And, can you imagine how terrifying a huge crock was to people, or is! Cobras stand quite high. Oh, this seems like a komodo type animal. Or monitor? Oh, you're right, again python fits. 👍🏼🌊💙💙💙🌊🥰✌🏼
It's possible that both you and the professor are correct. If Polo isn't relating first hand accounts, it could be he heard stories of both crocodiles and of pythons, and the two accounts got crossed in either his own accounts and/or the translations. In any case, it's clearly not a t-rex as Dutko states.
"Marco Polo was sitting in jail at that point, he wasn't writing anything" All the times I heard about Marco Polo, they say he wrote his book in jail, or more precisely he dictated it to his jailmate, Rustichello da Pisa. The year is still wrong, Rustichello dates his manuscript from 1298, and they were imprisonned together between 1295 and 1298 ^^
Thanks for this input. I got "cheek flaps" from the cobra article on Wikipedia in Dutch. It calls the hood "wangflappen" ("cheek flaps" in English). So would I be correct in guessing, from your statement here, that "wangflappen" is not the usual Dutch term for a cobra's hood?
19:39 oh man I heard “all the others are deceived” and now all I can think about is some cosmic Sauron allegory giving the world’s humans contradictory religions on purpose
Dutko lies about Marco Polo! Marco Polo never wrote about his travels. He told stories about his travels to Rustichello da Pisa who wrote them down with unknown accuracy. Chapter 40 is not “censored from all writings” 😮. In The Travels of Marco Polo, Book 2 Chapter 49 (Gutenberg Project), no T. Res are seen by him. Instead “huge serpents” are probably described to Marco by other people. They are not T. Rex for the basic reason that they drag their tails on the ground to create furrows and trails. T. Rex carry their tails in the air! The serpents seem to have only “two forelegs near the head, but for foot nothing but a claw like the claw of a hawk or that of a lion” but T. Rex hind limbs are very noticeable - why are they missing? And T. Rex had 2 claws on their forearms which were arms not legs! See Note 3 in the Gutenberg Project translation for other reasons that the serpent may be a crocodile.
I thought it was so funny to learn a few videos ago that this clown is the lead-sword guy from Aron’s book _The Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism_ .😂 It is just getting better.
I forgot that one of the translations I read said that these serpents are 10 palms in "girt". Meaning that they're 30 inches around. That too is correct for a large retic.
Especially with a meal. Plus, they probably thought all snakes were the same, to a degree. There may have been some bigger version of one that unhinged their jaw, since they were hunting them for profititable gall. Some shit never changes. Oh, sorry. Also, those vestigial claws could have been a lot more prominent, more often then. Thankyou Aron!
Your buddy doesn't seem to want to be on camera!
I love your beautiful snek buddy!
I know where average height comes from and there must ve been wealth of food back in the day to have 5"7 as average.Here in more barren Finland,averages were smaller.Beds from 1700/1800 are popular interior design items as to their pleasing size and style.People did not weigh as much here either.I still wonder about that 5"7 average,not thinking it isn t accurate.
Did sound weird, until I switched it from 10 palms diameter to 10 palms circumference; the it just continued to drop together!
I'm curious how well the snake gets on with the rest of your menagerie... or do you keep them separate, so you don't end up with a Matryoshkan menagerie!? :D
What no moonlight skinny-dipping in the Silurian seas!? :D
Forget Piny the Elder. There’s a dinosaur on my shoulder right now!
I was just cleaning dinosaur poop off my shoulder, aren't we lucky! I also taught him to say, "Tiny, tiny dinosaur" :)
Aww. Lol.
I have four. Bird seed everywhere. Lol.
Does it want a cracker?
What was this elder pining for?
'It's censored from all the history books. Look it up for yourself.'
I can only think of a few groups that censored the history books and they all wore funny hats
You get the feeling that anybody who meets a large carnivorous dinosaur close up and in the flesh is more likely to be lunch than the author of a description of the encounter.
Well many were herbivorous, although they may go after you and try to stomp you or wack you with their tail if they see you as a threat, especially if they have young like many animals do to protect them.
The large theropod carnivores would probably not waste energy going after something the size of a human. The smaller ones though, they might see humans as prey, or competition.
@@FrozEnbyWolf150-b9tFull grown adult T. Rex probably wouldn't see you as potential food, but younger, smaller, and faster individuals definitely would see you as food.
@@ExtremeMadnessX depends on how much contact those dinosaurs would've had with humans historically and what is their natural prey. It is a very common phenomenon in apex predators to ignore animals of perfect size for them to hunt if they didn't evolve alongside those animals as prey. If anything, it's a default.
And the exceptions support the rule. The main exceptions are animals that live in very harsh conditions where prey encounters are rare and the risk is worth it (see polar bears), animals that got injured and can no longer defeat their primary prey (man-eating tigers and lions usually fall into this category) and animals either in captivity, so extremely familiar with humans, or in a habitat basically destroyed by humans in terms of usual prey.
On the contrary, lions, bears, leopards, jaguars, sharks, wolves and many others usually do not hunt humans if their usual prey is available.
If those dinosaurs would have an extensive evolutionary history of hunting primates, though, we'd have a bad day. Until we made them extinct, that is.
Yep! I often wondered why the Bible didn't include things like "the huge swift lizard with many teeth" that over a few months carried away half the villiage and devoured the prophet Samuel (a different one).
Of course dinosaurs are still with us. Just this morning I heard the honking of feathered avian theropods migrating south for the winter.
Watched some dinosaurs drinking sugar water today... others eating seeds... there's even a dinosaur that occasionally comes to hunt in the pond...
I have three dinosaurs in a coop... I eat their eggs all the time!😂
We all know mermaids in stories imply hot fish women exist irl.
@@AquaticFlapper125 Oh, that is hilarious🤣. Are you a speech writer for Trump🤣🤣🤣
Like the”Hot fish women “comment
Don't forget some sailors supposedly telling the tales of people with head of a wolf or jackal on remote islands. That clearly proves furry girls exist irl.
@@eerohorila1109 They're _eating_ the hot fish women!
Well, comments escalated quickly. 😂
Dinosaurs were thin at one end, much, much thicker in the middle, then thin again at the far end. - Anne Elk (Ms)
I have another theory.
@@steveharrison3007 Be quiet.
It took me a while but I finally got that reference.
Thanks, that brought back a nice memory
Well, that theory of yours appears to have hit the nail on the head
Wait, what?
Nine-and-a-half
Let's not forget Fred Flintstone. He even had a pet dinosaur.
"Squeegee everything you thought you know and start from scratch"... then the guy proceeds to say "now assume one random ancient creation myth is the word of a supernatural deity". Why the hell would we not squeegee that too?
'Squeegee everything you know and start from scratch.'
I did... that's why I'm no longer a Christian or a conservative.
Love how they ALWAYS have to lie to argue anything
If creationists and flat earthers (big overlap) didn’t lie, they’d have nothing to say.
I used to own a 16' African rock python ...she couldn't eat an Elephant but I'd lay a bet she could have scared the shit out of one If she was in a bad mood .
Yay the retic comes out! GORGEOUS snake Aron.
I mean, Diogenes is famous for bringing a dinosaur to Plato's Academy.
No, he brought a man!
"Behold a Man" - Diogenes
11:58 Ah, yes, the famous dinosaur umbilical cord!
I actually saw a dinosaur just this morning, it was at my bedroom window crowing and if it keeps that up it might soon become extinct too😂
Dr Grant saw a dinosaur. That's another witness.
but no actual evidence
To be fair, Pliny the Elder did see many dinosaurs in his life time
Monophyletically a chicken is a dinosaur, paraphyletically a velociraptor is a bird.
Yes he did.
So Pliny lived 70 million years ago?
Which species?
I mean yeah there’s 10,000 species alive today I saw many today.
Asian water monitor? That's my best guess for the beast of Korizon. Hanyusuchus was around at that time too.
Edit: Malayopython reticulatus! Very nice...
I was waiting to hear monitor. But the explanation of why it is a python is solid.
I like how Dutko keeps calling things "censored" when they are simply ignored for being either outright false (e.g. all these dinosaur claims) or just irrelevant (e.g. not diving into each chapter of a historic book). Sir, only publishing true and relevant things is not censorship!
I always love your content. Thank you
Man, I remember all this clap trap back in my youth in baptist Sunday school. Ain't they got any new material?
When they do try something new, like 'soft tissue', they get it just as spectacularly wrong. Maybe even more so because they haven't have 80 years to hone the lies.
No they do not.
@raptorcrasherinc.9823 just like flerfs. They're dinosaurs of a feather.
Although they do tweak it every time a new gap they can squish god into opens up, or to use different words than the other apologist, the methods and ways they try to make it sound true, the logical fallacies, and lying, hasn't changed for centuries!
I was raised 7th Day Adventist and I had to hear the same things. I've been Atheist for a long time but I'm still in touch with some of my friends from school. Yeah, I was sent to SDA schools too. A friend told me the he talked to our 5th grade teacher and she was so excited about going to see Noah's Arc Park in KY. She has to be in her 80s now. And she was a teacher. The religious simply reject reality.
On episode 20 of the “Supposed Lies in the Textbooks” series I posted this: I would like to remind everyone that Aron is responding to just one of Hovind’s seminars. We are at episode 20 right now and we are still not done!
Well, here we go again!
A series on Hoewinds or any one of many apologists stupidity could run as long as "One life to live", or "General Hospital"... my mom used to watch that , and it ran for decades!
@@Bob-of-Zoid I loved General Hospital with Luke and Laura
@@55Quirll Really" I couldn't stand it, but really I never got into any series like that, not even sitcoms unless really funny which many were not. When my parents weren't home or otherwise occupied I scanned the channels for documentaries, and things to learn from.
@@Bob-of-Zoid That is a good way to gain information, I go to different channels who have done work on Kent Hovind
@@55Quirll He's the bottom of the barrel and easy to debunk, and he doesn't even put up a good fight, he just makes claim after claim and evades giving real answers, and when pressed he just gets insulting and acts like a child.
If you haven't already, you need to move up to William Lane Craig, then Frank Turek and some of the apologists with more serious understanding of science and philosophy who also get debunked but as you move up the ladder they become harder nuts to crack without the content creator getting into the details, and you will need to be on the ball to catch some of the tricks they use to put their opponent on the spot, or else see a BS answer or statement as a real possibility when they are not.
They all get debunked in the end and not one of them has ever asked a question, that cannot be answered at least with "I don't know, and neither do you, nor anyone else, because it's way beyond our scope to even investigate, and your unsubstantiated claim that comes with no actual evidence whatsoever, isn't an answer!".
Learning philosophy in more detail is really important in being able to take on these cons yourself, and one of the best is Matt Dillehunty, who has debated and shredded the best of the best in apologetics, and was One of "The three horseman of Atheism" with Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris, has his own a channel "Atheists debate", and is on "The line" very often which does call in shows where the hosts mostly take on believers who call in, and although he can get really harsh, and uses a lot of foul language for doing it for over 4 decades, fielding callers that have watched him many times, and should know he's not easily defeated, and yet they come in with some of the weakest arguments, get cocky, evade questions left and right, including very simple Yes or No ones with no other option, nor any needed, so I can see how it gets to him and rather like it, because I myself am very similar, just nowhere near as good... but if you pay close attention you will learn a lot from him! Aron is also on the Line often, sometimes with Matt as well as other well known Atheists you can learn a lot from depending on what you already know.
I am also big on science content, but stick to the channels that actually do cover real science, not any of the hundreds of woo peddlers, grifters and morons who think they understand science that really don't. On that note Thunderf00t (zeros, not capital o's) is both, an accomplished and well cited scientist, and atheist/pseudoscience debunker, with a humorous side too, so tripple score! He does real experiments on camera, and filmed some in labs, and he's shredded Elon musk so often and so hard, showing him as the science novice/conman he really is, that Musk's fanbois (Musk Rats) made hundreds of videos trying to make him look bad... so he took them on too, and made fools of the whole lot of them in exquisite fashion to the point some of their channels got so bombarded with people doing the same in their comment sections that some turned off comments, removed videos he used to debunk them, and at least a few even closed their channels!
I have had a friend for over forty years. He has been telling me throughout that time about seeing a wild moose near our childhood homes in the suburbs of Los Angeles. Moose are not native to this region. It is certainly possible that a captive moose escaped and that my friend saw it. It seems much more likely, however, that he simply misidentified something else that he actually saw. Witness testimony is notoriously inaccurate.
It happens every year that at the start of deer hunting season people have their horses and cows fall victim to people from the cities who have never seen a deer, horse, or cow and don't know the difference. These are the type of people who are also responsible for the invention of camo toilet paper. Hunters in the woods who are doing a number 2 have fallen victim to the same sort who see a flash of white and don't check their targets. What people see, and what they think they see can be two very different things.
@@mindcraftyD13 I my area during hunting season out comes the orange coats for horses, and orange paint for cattle. one of THE number one rules for hunting is ALWAYS identify your target. Yet every year without fail idiots harm and possibly kill others.
@@mindcraftyD13 WOW, you still would have to be stupid as F! I'm from Chicago and can tell a crocodile from an alligator, a moose from a northern European deer buck (much larger than the ones here), buffalo from bison's; Way too many Americans call bison buffalo, and not only are bison indigenous to northern America and no where else, we have no buffalo here but in zoos, and who the F can't tell a horse from a mile away?
Are you saying city folk get worse education than lets say the bible belt which now includes Ohio and then some? I think you are mistaken! You did mention can't tell what they are seeing, well, maybe they just cannot see them clearly or only partially... but no way people who hunt can't tell a horse, cow or deer, because they use pictures of them for target practice, and to show what exactly to aim for for a kill shot
The toilet paper/rabbit mistake I can see, but not the rest. I have heard stories of stupid hunters shooting at deer with a field of grazing cows or horses behind it and taking one out for missing the target! You're supposed to know to not do that too!
@@mindcraftyD13 That bit about the toilet paper is absolutely terrifying. I used to go hunting with my grandpa as a kid. He made damn sure I understood never to shoot until I could see its whole head, or better yet, the eyes. Idiots with guns are the reason why we need harsher laws. It's hunting season and you want a license? Gotta pass this exam first, which not only includes gun safety but basic survival tips like how to bank a fire or recognize poisonous mushrooms/berries in the area. We do it for driving, which is probably the most dangerous thing people do almost every day. Why not for handling actual weapons?
Just last year, a town right outside of Berlin held its breath for two or three days because some guy had seen - and captured on video! - an animal he thought was a female lion. His sighting prompted a large-scale search effort that was only canceled when people came to realize the "lion" was, in all likelihood, just a wild hog.
And to think Big Boss killed and ate reticulated pythons. No wonder the most hardened mercenaries in the world obeyed him out of sheer terror.
Whaaaat??? I've seen dinosaurs. On a big screen. Ice Age 3😂😂😂
You've probably seen dinosaurs in real life too but all of those would be birds
with alligator and snake trappers its incredibly common for people to call in saying there is a massive animal. the trapper gets there and 9 out of 10 times its like a 2 foot snake. or they say its a 12 foot gator and it turns out to be like 6 feet.
That's an excellent point. Witness testimony is unreliable as hell.
In my country we say: "Fear has big eyes."
Arachnophobe will see a daddy-long-legs and swear up and down he was attacked by Shelob.
"Ma'am, that's an iguana.... here, wanna hold him?"
Strange how all of the things Dutko says are censored actually aren’t censored. I wonder if he has some alterior motive in saying that. Like his platycephalic audience won’t go looking for them since they’re “censored” and accidentally find out he’s lying to them.
Incidentally, the “Korazan” mentioned in the text may be referring to Kwharazm, an area in modern Afghanistan I think, which once had a large empire that was destroyed by the mongols, and thus “ruled by the great Khan.”
Agreed. When I saw the names Karazan and Kogatin I thought of Khorasan and Chagatai. Khorasan was a region stretching from northern Iran, through parts of Uzbekistan and Afghanistan, possibly to where the Hindu Kush meets China, and was conquered by the Mongols in 1219-1221. Chagatai was one of the sons of Genghis Khan who took part in this campaign and inherited it after his father's death in 1227; he ruled there until his death in 1242 and was succeeded by one of his sons.
If Polo reported on the porcelain that was traded there from India he could well have heard stories from other travellers to northern India, which would be within the modern range of reticulated pythons. The later Chagatin Khanate of the time of Polo's travels towards the end of the century also included territories further east and bordering on Nepal (again within the modern range of pythons). There are plenty of opportunities there for fantastical stories of monstrous creatures to have spread.
@@RichWoods23 very true. And that’s not even talking into account the very human tendency to take interesting animals with them to distant lands. There’s plenty of ways for him to hear of them.
He says it because it reemphasizes non-creationists as conspirators and creationists as the oppressed in their minds. Scientists are Satan-worshipping liars, fooling the world, and shysters like this saying those kinds of things drives that belief home for them. I don't think it's to scare people away from checking the sources; he knows his audience won't do that anyway. He knows he could say literally anything that fits their worldview and they'd believe him.
We have Anacondas where I live. Certain they would have called them dinosaurs too
Hello from northern Illinois ... it is rare for me to be this early for an AronRa drop
Not early
I’m even less early, not late exactly but.
yes you are not
Rock on Aron
I think I’m in love with the baby python….
Isn't it beautiful! What a cute snek!!!
Awwww, the baby snake 🐍
I love reptiles!
I have witnessed many dinosaurs with my own eyes and ears. Even petted and/ or ate some. They taste like chicken.
I have dinosaurs in my backyard everyday... Obviously they live with man
I've seen dinosaurs with my own two eyes when I was a kid...
Every Saturday morning when I watched the Flintstones on TV.
I always love cameos from Aron's many pets!
If anybody gets to Alice Springs in central Australia, climb the "Gap"which is the entry to the Alice, I did once, the air at the top was so "sweet" above the pollution I believe, it felt like you could almost eat it, thinking the air must have been the same all over the country before European settlement and I find reading early historians, they love to embellish, exaggerate, so these "accounts" I read with a " pinch of salt". (These two descriptions are fine as the content was about time past etc.)
“No amount of wishing will ever make it true”. Why I left Wicca 😒
Tbh a religion that's not abusive towards its followers can have benefits, such as the sense of community, regardless of its validity. Just look at Japan where even many irreligious people still practice shinto.
@@missk1697 I agree w that as far as secular community. It may be argued that any religion that posits a god is lying and therefore abusive. But a gathering of folks w a singular purpose perhaps-that’s always powerful
those final words where great, man.
2:50 Exaggerations are common in ancient Roman writing, even with generally reliable authors such as Pliny. Julius Caesar's histories are a case in point. They are essentially correct but he exaggerated some things, usually to make himself look better.
I've seen a dinosaur, at the Royal Tyrell Museum in Alberta. I bet he's not gonna talk about them. Honestly, anyhow...
Even if Marco Polo had described a large late cretatios theropod, it would have been more likely to have been the asian Tarbosaurus than american Tyranosaurus.
Hah, even if a relict population of dinosaurs were to exist in some remote place on Earth, that would not be evidence for the existence of any invisible, supernatural god.
Skull Island and The Lost World are evidence that God is real because they have living dinosaurs! For reasons!
Yabba dabba do!
Flintstone archeology 😅
Also, this is pure speculation but I imagine, back then, when there were much fewer people an much more natural environment, that it would not be out of order to see the largest examples more frequently. So if the world record in modern times is 30 something feet, 30 foot long pythons were probably more common back then.
i checked my ad&d monster manual, this sounds like a coiled dragon, or "pan lung"
Thanks!
Just watching you hang out with your big ass scaly noodle is very endearing!
You got an excellent snek there!
I walk with dinosaurs every time I enter my aviary. Dutko's full of it.
Thank you for the show which tell us about common sense
Yaar chale dildaar chale
Bhagwant savdhan jab zameerdaar chale
19:51 "I can't believe I never heard any of this stuff before." Like what? I've heard it all and it's all bad. It's all an excuse to believe what you want in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. And repeated so often it's hard to believe there are people who haven't hear it.
If you want an example of exaggeration in old writings one has only to read Herodotus - there's some real belters in there.......
Aron is getting a lot of content out of this Dutko clown.like it
btw crocodillian experts do think they use the nailless finger when feeling around while under water.
Ive loved snakes since the first time I saw the Disney Robinhood...decades ago
Ever seen the Flintstones??
C'mon now people.
Yep! They had a pet dinosaur named dino (pronounced deeno)! There's your freaking evidence right there Aron!😅
This is for sure not the biggest point against the argument, but T-rexes didn’t exist in Europe anyway
There were plenty of big predatory theropods in Europe, like Megalosaurus, Neovenator, and Torvosaurus, but of course, creationists don't know anything about dinosaur/archosaur diversity beyond what they saw in Jurassic Park XD
@@daliborjovanovic510 what can you expect from people who think dinosaurs are big lizards.
The sheer dishonesty of these Christian apologies
I have see footage of crocodiles temporarily living in holes in the ground during the dry season. I don’t think they dug the holes themselves but rather they used other animals’ dens. It must have been in Africa, because I seem to remember there were giraffes in the same documentary.
The pronunciation of Pliny the elder was painful, Plin-knee
I didn't realise how deep the rabbit hole was!
Rise up this morning
Smiled with the rising sun
3 little dinosaurs
Pitch by my doorstep..
8:00 Famously Rustichello da Pisa writes the "Travels of Marco Polo" based on the accounts Polo gave him while they were both prisoners of the Genoese. Polo was a prisoner in the period 1296-99.
Wasn't Noah's flood supposed to have wiped out the dinosaurs thousands of years before Pliny or Herodotus were even born?
Those closing words...
I am Dutch and was wondering about these "cheap flaps", but then I got it. You said Cheek Flaps 😅
In an era before photography and light-speed data transfer, it's far easier to understand why monstrous creatures were believed in after a centuries long game of telephone describing an animal.
I honestly doubt anyone seeing a live dinosaur or pterosaur would use snakes as a basis for comparison.
Lawl that thumbnail I have seen that picture as a kid.
Quite the title Aronra
Pliny the Elder was a natural philosopher and probably did write a birds...
"shaped like a loaf of bread" is a really poor simile. Baguette?
That's a big snake!
Historic dinosaur witness?
Is this going to be about John Morris Pendleton? Chemist, automechanic, pterodactyl hunter
"It's all been covered up" is the second most desperate grasp creationists make when their lies don't hold water.
Number one, of course, is threatening you with God's judgement and eternal torture, because not letting frauds have their way is the greatest sin of all.
Those snakes are impressive. True monsters.
Titanoboa are pretty freaking cool fossils.
I think both the Pliny python and Heroditus cobra, are a lot more plausible. And snakes can get huge in the right environs. And, can you imagine how terrifying a huge crock was to people, or is! Cobras stand quite high. Oh, this seems like a komodo type animal. Or monitor? Oh, you're right, again python fits. 👍🏼🌊💙💙💙🌊🥰✌🏼
Praise Nehebkau!
Gooood Stuff
16:00 ish - If we hold this to the same standard as Behemoth, then the animal must literally have a loaf of bread for a nose
It's possible that both you and the professor are correct. If Polo isn't relating first hand accounts, it could be he heard stories of both crocodiles and of pythons, and the two accounts got crossed in either his own accounts and/or the translations. In any case, it's clearly not a t-rex as Dutko states.
What about a monitor lizard?
While you're time traveling, might as well visit the first century Israel.
"Marco Polo was sitting in jail at that point, he wasn't writing anything"
All the times I heard about Marco Polo, they say he wrote his book in jail, or more precisely he dictated it to his jailmate, Rustichello da Pisa. The year is still wrong, Rustichello dates his manuscript from 1298, and they were imprisonned together between 1295 and 1298 ^^
"Pliny" rhymes with "winnie", not "tiny".
I've never heard of the hood of a cobra being called "cheekflaps" in Dutch, not once in 46 years of being native Dutch speaker.
Great, but why not also say what you do call them? Inquiring minds want to know!
@@Bob-of-Zoid "kraag" of "hoed" is what I use. (Collar or hood would be the translation)
@@sachamarcet OK, I can see hood for sure. I just call them "Thingies that pop out when it wants to kill you"!!🤪😁
Thanks for this input. I got "cheek flaps" from the cobra article on Wikipedia in Dutch. It calls the hood "wangflappen" ("cheek flaps" in English). So would I be correct in guessing, from your statement here, that "wangflappen" is not the usual Dutch term for a cobra's hood?
@@grumpyoldgrouch not as far as I know, like I said, I've never called them that. Nor have I ever heard anyone else call them that.
How about a video of Ayaan Hirsi Ali ?
Counterpoint: Yaba daba doo.
*Cheers.* ☕ 🐍
19:39 oh man I heard “all the others are deceived” and now all I can think about is some cosmic Sauron allegory giving the world’s humans contradictory religions on purpose
Wasn't Godzilla a Tyrannosaurus (although 'slightly' larger) with a really cool spinal ridge.
all the snake videos on this for making me miss my 8 foot Burmese python...
Some turd stole it
Dutko lies about Marco Polo! Marco Polo never wrote about his travels. He told stories about his travels to Rustichello da Pisa who wrote them down with unknown accuracy. Chapter 40 is not “censored from all writings” 😮. In The Travels of Marco Polo, Book 2 Chapter 49 (Gutenberg Project), no T. Res are seen by him. Instead “huge serpents” are probably described to Marco by other people. They are not T. Rex for the basic reason that they drag their tails on the ground to create furrows and trails. T. Rex carry their tails in the air! The serpents seem to have only “two forelegs near the head, but for foot nothing but a claw like the claw of a hawk or that of a lion” but T. Rex hind limbs are very noticeable - why are they missing? And T. Rex had 2 claws on their forearms which were arms not legs!
See Note 3 in the Gutenberg Project translation for other reasons that the serpent may be a crocodile.
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Evolutionists Hate This One Trick (Pliny the Elder).
I thought it was so funny to learn a few videos ago that this clown is the lead-sword guy from Aron’s book _The Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism_ .😂 It is just getting better.
Are you wearing a Godzilla shirt in this video? If so, which one?
Was it Herodotus or some other ancient historian who claimed to see with his own eyes winged lizards flying out of a cave one by one in Arabia?
Mentioned at 4:31
How were lizards depicted? How large they were? Where exactly did that supposedly happen?