Hi, Thoughty2. It's me, your only viewer. Over the years, I've been creating the illusion that a lot of people are watching your videos. But it was me. Now I will write this message from all accounts.
Hi, Thoughty2. It's me, your only viewer. Over the years, I've been creating the illusion that a lot of people are watching your videos. But it was me. Now I will write this message from all accounts.
every so often a guy comes along who is so good at slight of hand he david blaines his way into making people believe he is supernatural. jesus was the most successful
I feel like that's generally how people acquire knowledge these days...... nobody trusts any actual institution, so everyone believes "trust me bro" on social media
To be immortal, a person's DNA has to be able to do 2 things. Perfect error connection when mutations happen, and the ability to replenish the shortening of the telomeres sequence in the DNA. Every time a cell divides to heal a wound or just to replace a naturally aging cell, the copying of the genes always incur some errors because there are simply too many genes to copy in the cell. The cells have a self-repairing mechanism to fix these errors, but the fix is never perfect and sometimes mechanism itself fails. Cancer is the result of these failures. This is why spontaneously occurring cancers happen to people later in life even if they have live a carcinogen-free life. There are molecular sequences in the DNA called telomeres. Each time a cell divides, the telomeres become slightly shorter in the resultant copies. Eventually, they become so short that the cell can no longer divide successfully, and the cell dies. So through some fluke of nature, the DNA in someone does not follow this degradation. This will indeed make them immortal. However, there are detrimental forces beyond DNA. Given enough time, the odds are good that of some accident where they get hit by a car or killed in a natural disaster or to be ravaged by disease is inevitable. The longer they live, the more likely these external forces will happen to them. Therefore, statistically speaking, there are no immortals out there. Then there is the psychological effect of seeing your loved ones die over the years. How many deaths of wives, husbands, children, and friends you have to endure before you go mad from unrelenting grief? Psychologically, we human beings plant our roots to a place and to a circle of friends, acquaintances, and family. That’s how we establish our unique identity. I am where I am and whom I know. This is why even the most hardcore globetrotters always go home once in a while to re-anchor themselves. When you travel too much and too far to find yourself, you will lose yourself. For immortals, they lose themselves both in place and in time because they also anchor themselves in time. Immortals won’t allow themselves to be attached to things that give them pleasure such as calling a place home and some people friends because they know they will lose them eventually. In short, being immortal is not a gift, it’s a curse. I don’t mind living a few hundred years to personally witness how the world evolves over a few lifetimes, but no more. But to live forever? No thanks because immortality is tantamount to psychological torture. In a way, having children where you teach them your values or contribute to the general happiness of one’s society is a form of immortality because the incorporeal part of you lives on. So instead of literally wishing to be an immortal, live your finite life with love, kindness, and compassion. If those virtues live on among your biological and social descendants, you have achieved an abstract level of immortality. The ancient Greeks died thousands of years ago, but their lives and accomplishments gave rise to our current iteration of a society. Each of us may not be an Aristotle, but we are. Future generations may not know our names, but they reap the fruits of our short stay in time and place.
you forgot that even if you somehow achieve physiological immortality, neural plasticity is still a thing, the human mind is built in a non physical way to last AT MOST 120-150 years, so even if your body never ages, your mind will degrade, and dementia and others will happen, now obviously its not FULLY understood, but yes, not to mention the reason people are more receptive to change, and to learning more in there younger years is to an incredibly complex web of phsio/psychological factors that would be worsened by living for that 120-150 years.
there are means to off-set elements of aging; schemes I am sure you are familiar with, but for someone to have achieved 300 year lifespan without having designed a virus to add to the telemeres and stem-cell doping therapies... and still you would have a whole host of other issues that arise from time not related to these core aging elements... i mean, stem cells could probably deal with a lot of genetic and cell issues lets just assume and you are able to replace the lost telemeres before they reaching significant coding DNA... but there are further mechanisms which would continue to complicate your existance such that accident or the accumulation of complicatipn would get ya eventually. I mean, if you're sleeping around for hundreds of years i don't think aging is your biggest obstacle in the engineering of immortality... Accident, pestilence, murder, disaster, hunger, suffocation - you will still certainly die. With good application of knowledge now, a well-resourced person could achieve a healthspan of 90+ years relatively reliably... maybe a total life of even 120+... but over 300 would almost require something like a profound intervention which would require his tech to have an extraterrestrial origin. Like, how the hell you culturing the stem cells? How are you going to engineer a virus or bacteria to replace the telemeres with the tech of the time? obviously there isn't even a tube small enough to dream of anything like this - i mean, schucks...
"Please allow me to introduce myself, I'm a man of wealth and taste. I've been around for a long, long year, Stole many a man's soul and faith...Pleased to meet you, Hope you guess my name, But what's puzzling you, Is the nature of my game" - The Rolling Stones Sounds like it could be a song about this guy. :)
Thought the lyrics were from the devils point of view speaking on humanities atrocities?? It was painted as a song with “satanic ideology” because it was showing the evil spirituality of humanity being just as important as the good.
Fascinating story. I bet he was a genius, able to memorize huge amounts of information add a charismatic flair and you have an immortal all knowing man.
Here is my take on the character. The guy was probably raised in a good noble family. He was accustomed to the nobility and knew how to press their buttons. In this way, he could always find ways to infiltrate their circles by playing on their fantasies (alchemy, eternal life). The guy was a great self-promoter before the word was invented. At one point, his legend took a life of its own and we still have disciples of the man even today. The fact that Casanova, who was a master manipulator, did not hold him in high esteem says a lot.
I'm inspired by this guy. I will henceforth devote the rest of my life to teaching all of my knowledge, wisdom, and mannerisms to my (younger) doppelgangers, and will instruct them to do the same in kind.
Maybe an illegitimate son of a noble, While never formally claimed maybe his noble parents made provision for his education, and he got to spend a lot of time around nobility. But with no official heritage it made it easy for him to move around unnoticed.
Voltaire described Saint Germain as "a man who never dies, and who knows everything." This remark was likely made in a tongue-in-cheek manner, reflecting Voltaire’s famous wit rather than a literal belief in Saint Germain's immortality.
A person with charisma and swagger can carve their way far up into the social hierarchy without actually producing or knowing anything at all. When he was found out, he moved. Aristocracy being what it is, and the world a much more sparsely populated place, they had all probably heard about him but did not know who he really was, and he doesn't seem to have done anything else than talk and boast. So much so that we in fact have conspiracies about his immorality. Well done.
You nailed, people steam most charming and lies, and manipulation, that's the reason countries are ruled by liars and crooked politicians and not by scientists or man of intellectual high level.
You are absolutely right. I have observed a few bullshitters rise up among the ranks or waltzing into a job of power by taking credit of other people's achievements and ideas and lying on their resumé. They rarely stay on the job for long enough to face real accountability, but now they have something traceable to add into their CV. "Was he working in your company?" Is usually all the new employer asks, not how good impact they had in their previous position. Of course, these successful con men are very good at explaining any failures on their part and their need to move on.
You left out one of the most famous stories of saint Germain. Once he was entertaining a rich family at a dinner party and he played the piano for their daughter. At that time she was 10 years old then. And 40 years later they met again. She came up to his and commented how much that he reminded her of another gentleman she knew when she was a child. But it couldn't possibly be the same man because he was in his early 40s at the time. That would make him over 80 when they met again. So she asked him if maybe it was his father or some other relative. He smiled and said of course I remember playing for you and your family. Even though he didn't look a day older than when she knew him. But he did Revolutionize the textile industry not in Ceramics or porcelain or dishes though. But in fashion back there they made green dye from arsenic and it was very poisonous. He made a safe green dye for clothing. Allegedly...
My niece writes, reads and speaks fluently four different languages and plays piano, guitar and flute as a professional. She is 28 and is a Neuropsychologist for speech impediments.
Hey. I've been watching your engaging content for a while. But I took a hiatus from the channel for about 2 years and recently came back. I realized your tone changed a little. Just wanted to point that out. Feels like a positive but subtle evolution. You were great before and even better now. Thanks for the abstract goodness.
I think it's because the old tone has gone out of fashion a bit. The low pitch emotionless voice that tries to convey the use of logic and reason is associated with conservatism. I'm not saying that conservatism has gone out of fashion, but the mannerism has changed. I don't know about his politics, maybe he's grown out of the image of the traditional man that he used to try to convey. I mean where is the moustache now? He looks more normal, like anyone you would meet in real life. And he advertises a product that supports mental health, I mean it's quite progressive. So who knows, maybe he has just evolved.
His real name isn't in publicly available in documents but he was born in San Germano, Italy around 1690 and his death was confirmed in 1784. He confessed to being the son of Prince Francis II Rakoczi of Transylvania which was most likely another lie. He was most likely the bastard son of one of the princes there, which one we aren't sure it could be 4 different ones. He did not speak all European languages fluently. He spoke Portuguese and Spanish fluently and could speak Italian and French with a Piedmont accent. San Germano area has a Piedmont accent. He could speak decent German but only spoke broken English. Prince Edward said he was a small, gray haired elderly man, not a 40-year-old. There are so many problems with his story if you really do the time to research it properly. He was likely a conman, not that he stole from people but he was happy to live rent-free in palaces sharing his stories. All his gems were fake and he died with about $100 bucks to his name. I could almost write an entire biography on him. I researched for years. Its just a story, nothing more.
So he was a 40y.o. man at any point of time otherwise he couldn't have turned into an elderly man with grey hair...by the way I know ppl with 40 that allready have grey hair
Thanks for finally making a video about me. I've been bored, lately, and thought about becoming a TH-cam influencer, but I found that making ceramics feeds my soul more fully. Oh, and before I go: Je ne mange que des chaussures le mercredi.
"Comme disait Madame de Pompadour, d'après le compte lui-même : "A chacun ses mauvais goûts ". Le Mercredi, Hermès mange ses sandales aillées. Tu sembles vraiment être lui, and you speak many languages ? :) ;)
I would just like to note that you changed the meaning of the french sentence by changing the position of the "que" word, instead of placing it before the object,"Les chaussures",it should be before the "le mercredi" , meaning that "you only eat shoes on Wednesday", instead you wrote that "on Wednesday, you eat only shoes"... I'll see myself out.
I've seen other TH-cam versions of some of the stories that you have told, but it's the wry, witty humor and color that you add (or humour and colour, if you're not in to that whole U.S. brevity thing) that keeps me coming back. Rock on, Thoughty2!
In 1989, I met him in Pittsburg, California. He was indeed very talented. He taught me the recipe for the best cocktail I've ever had. I call it The Immortal.
You forgot there were a few people who during the count’s living period said they knew him in their teens, and now being in their 40s or 50s said he looked like he never aged a day from that time. Not that this proves, just another interesting piece of the pie
people willingly repeat lies if it makes them feel included. Think of today and the argument for men competing in female sports. We all know it's ridiculous but there are people actually supporting it. Same thing here, one person lies and says they knew him as a lark or for some personal motivation and someone wanting favor with that person agrees. Most of history is lies.
My thought was if he was immortal he wouldn't have aged between 1740's and 1770's and anybody else surely would. And I doubt that make-up was THAT good at that time to give the illusion of aging.
This reminds me of a story of a chinese kungfu master. People of his village said that he was already an old man when they were children but they said it when they already had grandchildren. It is claimed the kungfu master got 256 years old.
@@bernhard254yeah on that one he was a Chinese herbalist and had a specific diet, know one thing was goji berries, but forget what else he took. But he had a birth certificate and different local government certifications celebrating different milestones of his life. Seemed to be a decent amount of paperwork. Maybe he found a life extender or just a fluke of genetics.
Was going to say the same. Wasn't there a queen who knew him when she was a child and he looked to be around 30, then she met him later and said he hadn't aged?
As a kid who had to live between 5 different family members in 3 different states my best quality was adapting. Adapting to new environments, adapting to new groups of people you now have to prove/introduce yourself to, new standing in society(low class-middle class), new schools, soo many new inputs for your brain to adapt to and it does. I learned very quickly how to read people and make friends. Every time i had to move to a different place, it was a new opportunity to try it again, and i got better every time. from my totally unreliable anecdotal evidence, i agree with Thoughty2, that him being born in nobility and at 4 had to move, all while changing parents, changing lives and having to adapt to all of that in secret because your life may depend on it, and then continuing that lifestyle becoming a "renaissance man" seems most realistic to me.
The part about him speaking so many languages "fluently" made me wonder if he used a similar "double-speak" technique that Sid Caesar was known for. He could speak gibberish, but make it sound like he was speaking German, French, or Spanish. To someone who didn't speak those languages, you'd believe he was actually speaking fluently
@The-Ginjaninja It's possible, but I could see any confusion being assumed as a simple mistake. This man seemed to plan his travel to very specific locations where he likely knew most of the population spoke a language he did speak fluently. It's also just one possibility. Sid Caesar did this with English speaking audiences, so I don't know how well it would work for someone speaking Italian or Spanish. He became so good at it because he grew up around many people who spoke different languages. He learned how each language sounded, how it was paced, etc. Then during his comedy skits (The German General being one of his vest known) he could speak gibberish, but in a way that resembled German to a non-speaker. Thhen throw in a few commonly known German words that non-speakers would recognize. And since most of his skits still required the audience to have an idea of what is supposed to be being said, use English words to convey the important dialoge, but with an exaggerated German accent. As I said, I don't know how well that would work in another language, but I was just suggesting it was one possibility.
In Europe many people are trilingual and not always the same three. So that would be nearly impossible anywhere other than London. But also fairly easy to learn more European languages once you learned the first few. Many linguists know dozens of languages
Jerome Bixby expanded the concept into the stand-alone movie "The Man From Earth" (2007). As he was approaching death himself in 1998, Bixby dictated the screenplay to his son. The movie is very low budget and seems almost like a straight-to-video 80s movie in terms of its production values, and yet...it's really excellent, and distinctive. (Holds a 100% RT rating.)
A relevant movie is "The Man from Earth" from 2007. It's an awesome little-known movie which delves into the concept of a man who never ages, claims to have met historical figures over thousands of years past and was even a biblical figure himself. It's quite an underrated, thought-provoking piece and I recommend it highly.
I used to make those "original title was" comments but I guess I was too convinced, despite Thoughty2 sharing these interesting vids, that his audience ultimately didn't care and that Thoughty2 was obviously making a baity title to grab more attention within the first 24hrs for the algorithm.
He does this because it’s a symbol of the elites to other elites. They use punlic messaging to spread ideas and plan societal shifts. He is talking in code to others like him
They say that we die twice - firstly when our body fails and secondly when our name is on someone's lips for the very last time. In that sense at least - the Count of St Germain is indeed still alive, and may still be for a long time to come.
I spent many years working in law enforcement in New Orleans especially during and after Hurricane Katrina. Right after the storm when the entire French Quarter was dark and mostly deserted except for us Louisiana State Special Officers and the National Guard. Myself and the Guard unit I was paired with met a man who came out of nowhere clean and well dressed which was not possible at this time and he introduced himself as Jack. Later in the conversation he said he was Count St. Germaine. We were skeptical and asked him if he needed help and he said no but we did and then he was gone. You can say what you want but this happened in front of two State Officers and 6 National Guard members and we reported this to our HQ and they even heard him speaking while we were on the radio.
Maybe the Count was a disgraced mariner, unjustly arrested for a crime he didn't commit, and he was educated in prison by a fellow prisioner who happened to be a priest, escaped and found a great treasure, to then come back, join the aristocracy and exact revenge on everyone who wronged him. That would be a great book to read.
Back in the 1980s, author Chelsea Quinn Yarbro wrote a series of books based on Le Compte de St. Germain, imagining him as a vampire. A good read for those interested in the genre.
I stumbled upon this channel when feeling a hankering for some history. This was my first one to watch and I subscribed right afterwards. I'm now bingeing on Thoughty2. My view on St Germain is that it began with a need to fit in. He knew how to read situations, clearly had an advanced grasp on social psychology for the most part, telling people what they wanted to hear - and whilst gaining acceptance, he became a part of the social structures he targeted. Yeah, a massive attention seeker - with a personality disorder and some glaring mistakes - but based on the times, I'm not surprised he mostly got away with it.
Chelsea Quinn Yarbro wrote a series of 20-30 historic vampire novels with the Count Saint-Germain as her very noble, good-guy vampire protagonist. They span many historic eras. Pretty fun.
another option is that he trained a apprentice to take over as him , and every time a new count nears death he trains a new apprentice, which would make it the worlds longest con ever
I absolutely LOVED this video it brings many valid points to the table as well as provided me with so many details about the count that I didn't previously know and I'm glad I clicked it
That's a fair point, a real human reader, that is a worthy value.... Just like zacspeaksgiant for DND stories, some of them may be reddit reads, but he adds so much character, or dark fluff for drama stories about Karen's and entitled people, they don't just copy paste, they actually add to the conversation
I just wanna say as a long time subscribe that Thoughty2 has come a long way in his speaking and is much more distinct now with his pronunciations. I jist thought it was really cool to see him grow in that way ❤
What a great video! I've seen the character appear in different places, like as a mention in books about ancient alchemy, in video games, most famously maybe in the 2nd season of the castlevania Netflix series, but I never knew about the legend behind the person! So all these mentions now make a lot more sense. Thanks for making this video!
I had known of St. Germain for years. And i was so tickled to see they added him in Castlevania! How perfect! As soon as I saw the way he was dressed and magically pulled out jewels from his pouch, I knew it was him!
I have to recommend the film, "The Man From Earth". The central character of the film claims to be immortal, such as this Count did - if you wanted to watch a film of a bunch of people interrogate a man who claims to be immortal.
@@SlermmMcderm ehh, sort of. IIRC he said people took it way out of context and blew up his deeds and later on called him Jesus. The movie definitely was pretty heretical in that way though.
Brilliant! This story reminds me of the guy from Catch me if you can, Frank Abagnale. A person whom pretended to be so many, learned, adapted, played many roles and fooled everyone. A highly intelligent person whom knew how to play the game for personal gain and notoriety. That is the weakness or problem of this game he played, by wanting to keep his secret but at the same time to be recognized or noticed, to which he may have known that his tale would be passed down through out history. Perhaps that may have been his end game, in any case we may never know the truth of this fascinating tale of this person. Even his deathbed confession may have been a lie. Thanks for the tale Thoughty2, loved it!
@@nitt3rz Or he went to McDonalds and developed a taste for tripple cheeseburgers and got a job at a gas station next to it, to help support his tripple cheeseburger addiction.. but he just couldn't handle it... so it went all dark and he started living in a shoe box next to the tent and then one day when he was mashed on crak and full of regret... a huge tornado came and it caught him up into the air, while he was eating a tripple cheeseburger and he was never seen again
Where could he be now? Chained and drop at sea by a rebellious crew? Caught in a mining collapse in the late 1800s? Thrown into a volcano by angry natives?
A very rich, very talented man of unknown origin immersing himself into high society in record time..He sounds something like a real life Count of Monte Cristo.
I'm not pushing religion here... just remembering something I read in the Bible. Jesus said "There are some of you standing here who shall not taste of death until you see the Son of Man coming into his kingdom." I have always found this intriguing.
That is precisely what it says. The Kingdom coming with power, however, refers to the ID of YiTRiCh or TeReM YiTsMaCh which is the ability to erase clouds by command which is the equivalent of Saymeon en te Uranos in Koine Greek "coming in the clouds". This is a person standing on the ground and projecting their energy from TsiYoWN up among the clouds and erasing them. This programs the atmosphere of the earth and in fact kills people. It's a sign, ID that Jesus has to have to be the Messiah, Moshiach, 1 Ha'aDaM. And, those people already saw it and died. Not to say they didn't reincarnate. It is NOT someone coming down from the clouds of the world accepting this person as the LORD (YHWH) requires and them doing as required concerning Him. Because if they don't their Soul dies when their bodies die. MoWTh TaMoWTh, they are destroyed completely, body and Soul. KaL ShaChoWTh.
👈… I thought that was already explained a long time ago… It was the Ascension of Jesus. So Jesus’ Kingdom is not here on the Earth (yet) It is in Heaven seated at the right hand of God where he is Lord and Christ and that’s what he was exalted too,…back then, 2000 years ago. No worries, you’re just a little late… I have to laugh out loud.😂
That meant the event was expected to occur soon, not that anyone there was immortal. Of course, as with all similar claims made by founders of religions... It ain't NEVER gonna happen.
@@spacemissing Your trying to deviate from the text by your own interpretation of what YOU think it means not what the full realm of scripture from B'Re'ShiYTh "Genesis" to Revelation says it Precisely means. As such you are trying to put yourself above God, the sin of Satan, NaChaSh. 🐍
@@mr.octopus6972 true but I use a thousand apps I’m not gonna pay a small fee for every app or even some of them. Tv ads is fine gives you a chance to go take a leak
@@mr.octopus6972yeah but 99 percent of what is uploaded to TH-cam would not pass quality control, for airing on a TV station, so I think that the previous person has a point. We have gotten so used to terrible quality of everything, that we’re willing to pay hundreds of times more for it, then it will ever be worth.
probably because everyone stopped watching him after he started non stop promoting betterhelp. youtube doesnt push videos that people are clicking off of half way through the ad that he always puts in at 1 minute into the vid. hes killing his own channel, not getting shadowbanned. his advertising is so greedy and disgusting. most youtubers put an ad for a reputable company at the END of the video, not an evil scam at the very start. this is his doing
Guessed who it was by the titles, this guy fascinated me when I discovered his existence my freshman year of highschool. His full history- as far as it can be known- is quite amazing, good video❤
I met the count once and asked his manservant if he truly was over 1 thousand years old, but sadly he couldn't confirm this, telling me that he'd only worked for the count for 300 years...
Some people have suggested that he begat a son who resembled himself, and taught him everything he knew. So when he would visit a country 40 years later, hardly anyone would know them apart. But I started reading about him as a child, probably in one of the Ripley’s Believe It or Not, and who could not be intrigued by this man’s story. I think he shows up as a supporting character in the “Outlander” books.
I would have figured he would research them as much as he does his content for his videos. The fact he still accepts sponsorships from them causes me concern about his accuracy and attention to detail for his videos. 🤦♂️ 😔
I am Duncan MacLeod, born four hundred years ago in the Highlands of Scotland. I am Immortal and I am not alone. For centuries we've waited for the time of the Gathering, when the stroke of a sword and a fall of a head will release the power of the Quickening. In the end, there can be only one.
I'll slightly disappointed, it was never brought up about him being a vampire in New Orleans who put on lavish parties, but never ate with anybody. Then fled New Orleans after "attacking" a woman and biting her neck. That was how i learned about him. I'm New Orleans, you can still see his former home.
@CajunCatguy is a really exciting historic mystery. I've only ever been to NO twice, but everyone I go, there is something be. I love the history. I wish I could visit more often. Just not in summer. 🥵
You forgot one crucial part of the story about him being the son of Prince Rakoczi; The story goes he was shipped off in secret and raised as a ward of the de' Medici family, which would more than explain his broad range of talents. Npw if this happened when he was 4 years old, they could have told him he was a different age and he wouldn't be any the wiser. That would have made the year his father was born and how old he told he was before he died completely negligible. The de Medici may have even instilled in him the idea he could "be anyone or anything he wanted" to be forever an aid to him in keeping his identity a secret.
that's why my prime mantra is "i believe nothing i hear and only half of what i see." i'm sure you DID see a ghost or lived 10 lifetimes. got any receipts? pictures? iphone video? exceedingly old parchments? ancient trinkets? psych meds? people tell me weird shhh all the time and invariably i'm either gonna completely dismiss it as garbage you picked up on facebook like fleas OR i'm gonna look up the associated press and npr
He was most likely a scammer. A fake influencer, we have those now. Where they go into debt to fake an image of looking rich, where they rent fake jets to take pics,etc. This dude was basically the old school type..probably.
Except for the problem of him actually succeeding and praised at succeeding at the endeavors he promoted. Scammers are inherent failures, not actually successors of their main claims. Barring the Philospher Stone nonsense, the recorded failures of St Germaine were never scam and were always pure lab failure, aka typical science failure.
We have them now because we live our lives online. He was able to immerse himself amongst the highly educated and most worldly people of the time. You’re oversimplifying what a sophisticated scam it would have been to fool that many people
@@fendermcmarshall An educated faker is still a faker, likely a son of a noble or rich merchant that became ruined. He then migrate from places until he reached England
So highly educated… tho I wonder how he kept moving his wealth all over the place. Unless he planted money in banks of several countries before going to England
Ive read this story and heard this story so many times, and it is still plumb amazing that it is true, at least for the actual parts confirmed and nothing to do with his immortal claims. He may not have been supernatural, but his ability sure as hell was incredible.
In another version of this story he would never be seen eating or drinking anything at those high class dinner parties except for some kind of elixir that he would keep in a small bottle in his pocket. Thanks Arran.
@@huntergann938 betterhelp is known for having horrible service with one therapist encouraging suicide and another encouraging hard drugs as a solution
@@huntergann938 Better help is known for selling its user's data without permission and doesn't seem to care for the people they are "trying" to help 😔
So, you've been on YT for 3 years and have only 1 comment? You must be him! After all, he did stay out of the limelight, didn't socialize much, made no claims about himself, etc. You've convinced me. 😂
Raised by a wealthy family who lost all family money so he reinvented himself and made up a story to be interesting. Kept details vague and obviously he was charming and well educated. Basically a con man and a good one at that. Not sure why it's a mystery.
Yup, this video proves it. Captivating the entire way through with suspense, several plot twists for the audience and a realistic payoff at the end(Mr Ballen has nailed this storytelling technique with spooky stories with similar success, for reference). I've been watching Thoughty for the better part of a decade or more, and his style just gets better with time. I hardly watch any other historical or scientific content on youtube, but always watch this dudes stuff as soon as I see a new video pop up on my feed.
Ah, yes. I remember those days. Nowadays I prefer to lay low. I switched the violin for the bass, changed my name a few dozen times. Feels nice to get the truth out there! in a place no one will read, of course.
I am so sad and disappointed to see one of the smartest men on this platform to take on better help as a sponsor and say they can be trusted with a straight face. They have made so much money selling the personal information of the very people they are taking money from with the promise of helping them connect with therapist to improve their mental health. It's even more sad when that means either A) one of the smartest people on TH-cam isn't doing any research let alone a simple Google search on the sponsor B) you have sold your integrity and chose money over the viewers that may be looking for a solution to mental health problems... either way that is disappointing. Better help is just another evil company looking to put profit over people disguising itself as a caring organization, there are far better options that don't sell out their customers who are already in a bad place. Don't let these leeches step on the people who look to you for an escape from day to day stress and education, please do better, hell I would even take another raid shadow legends ad campaign at least they are honest about what they want from their customers.
Damn you right. They are trash. The fact that they settled one of the suits confirms it. They even sold health question answers to advertisers. Thank you for letting us know this.
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Hi, Thoughty2. It's me, your only viewer. Over the years, I've been creating the illusion that a lot of people are watching your videos. But it was me. Now I will write this message from all accounts.
Hi, Thoughty2. It's me, your only viewer. Over the years, I've been creating the illusion that a lot of people are watching your videos. But it was me. Now I will write this message from all accounts.
"... and History Can't Prove Otherwise"
spooky or whaa!
Hi, Thoughty2. It's me, again. 👋
Alas, it is I, again, Thoughty2. Your only viewer. again.
Soo he would:
-show up
-bamboozle his way into the finest aristocracy
-refuse to elaborate
-leave
-start over
Exactly.😂
@@tyjohnston5889lmao
Yes but that's also exactly how real aristocrats behave.
Did he own a Jaaag
every so often a guy comes along who is so good at slight of hand he david blaines his way into making people believe he is supernatural. jesus was the most successful
This guy is the definition of “trust me, bro” and you have no choice
i trust bro
hahaha exactly
I feel like that's generally how people acquire knowledge these days...... nobody trusts any actual institution, so everyone believes "trust me bro" on social media
I hope you're not dumb enough belive this video omg 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@HunterGant bro trust each other
To be immortal, a person's DNA has to be able to do 2 things. Perfect error connection when mutations happen, and the ability to replenish the shortening of the telomeres sequence in the DNA.
Every time a cell divides to heal a wound or just to replace a naturally aging cell, the copying of the genes always incur some errors because there are simply too many genes to copy in the cell. The cells have a self-repairing mechanism to fix these errors, but the fix is never perfect and sometimes mechanism itself fails. Cancer is the result of these failures. This is why spontaneously occurring cancers happen to people later in life even if they have live a carcinogen-free life.
There are molecular sequences in the DNA called telomeres. Each time a cell divides, the telomeres become slightly shorter in the resultant copies. Eventually, they become so short that the cell can no longer divide successfully, and the cell dies.
So through some fluke of nature, the DNA in someone does not follow this degradation. This will indeed make them immortal. However, there are detrimental forces beyond DNA. Given enough time, the odds are good that of some accident where they get hit by a car or killed in a natural disaster or to be ravaged by disease is inevitable. The longer they live, the more likely these external forces will happen to them. Therefore, statistically speaking, there are no immortals out there.
Then there is the psychological effect of seeing your loved ones die over the years. How many deaths of wives, husbands, children, and friends you have to endure before you go mad from unrelenting grief? Psychologically, we human beings plant our roots to a place and to a circle of friends, acquaintances, and family. That’s how we establish our unique identity. I am where I am and whom I know. This is why even the most hardcore globetrotters always go home once in a while to re-anchor themselves. When you travel too much and too far to find yourself, you will lose yourself. For immortals, they lose themselves both in place and in time because they also anchor themselves in time. Immortals won’t allow themselves to be attached to things that give them pleasure such as calling a place home and some people friends because they know they will lose them eventually. In short, being immortal is not a gift, it’s a curse. I don’t mind living a few hundred years to personally witness how the world evolves over a few lifetimes, but no more. But to live forever? No thanks because immortality is tantamount to psychological torture.
In a way, having children where you teach them your values or contribute to the general happiness of one’s society is a form of immortality because the incorporeal part of you lives on. So instead of literally wishing to be an immortal, live your finite life with love, kindness, and compassion. If those virtues live on among your biological and social descendants, you have achieved an abstract level of immortality. The ancient Greeks died thousands of years ago, but their lives and accomplishments gave rise to our current iteration of a society. Each of us may not be an Aristotle, but we are. Future generations may not know our names, but they reap the fruits of our short stay in time and place.
I'm gonna go out on a wild limb and propose that it has to do as many as three things. Possibly even more!
you forgot that even if you somehow achieve physiological immortality, neural plasticity is still a thing, the human mind is built in a non physical way to last AT MOST 120-150 years, so even if your body never ages, your mind will degrade, and dementia and others will happen, now obviously its not FULLY understood, but yes, not to mention the reason people are more receptive to change, and to learning more in there younger years is to an incredibly complex web of phsio/psychological factors that would be worsened by living for that 120-150 years.
typing that probably took more time than how long he lived
there are means to off-set elements of aging; schemes I am sure you are familiar with, but for someone to have achieved 300 year lifespan without having designed a virus to add to the telemeres and stem-cell doping therapies... and still you would have a whole host of other issues that arise from time not related to these core aging elements... i mean, stem cells could probably deal with a lot of genetic and cell issues lets just assume and you are able to replace the lost telemeres before they reaching significant coding DNA... but there are further mechanisms which would continue to complicate your existance such that accident or the accumulation of complicatipn would get ya eventually. I mean, if you're sleeping around for hundreds of years i don't think aging is your biggest obstacle in the engineering of immortality... Accident, pestilence, murder, disaster, hunger, suffocation - you will still certainly die. With good application of knowledge now, a well-resourced person could achieve a healthspan of 90+ years relatively reliably... maybe a total life of even 120+... but over 300 would almost require something like a profound intervention which would require his tech to have an extraterrestrial origin. Like, how the hell you culturing the stem cells? How are you going to engineer a virus or bacteria to replace the telemeres with the tech of the time? obviously there isn't even a tube small enough to dream of anything like this - i mean, schucks...
Bro he really thought he was saying sum
You know what they say. If it looks like a conman, sounds like a conman and smells like a conman it is clearly magical immortal.
Good description of Trump and Bannon.
Leibniz
was also called a
spy
by UK
same epoch
as well
@@biblebadcopycatofcuneiform8210leave it to someone to bring up politics where it has no relevance
@@muudiser yeah but he is right
@@muudiser I didn't bring in any politics. I commented about 2 con-men that most of us are aware of.
"There was something crazy about this stranger...nobody knew who he was!"
*thats how strangers work*
very funny comment, thank you orangecitrus
Seriously.. especially in the days when tracking people was literally impossible.
😁
@@fatfurry Why did I tell myself that my comment was very funny?
Oh those pesky strangers. They just ... are... and nobody knows anything about them 😂😂😂
Imagine St. Germain watching this video and facepalming at minor mistakes
He would of course understand why and not be bothered by them.
Catch 22 would imortataly be a blessing or a curse...out live friends family items
😂😂
I am…
Not really, it's fine. I choose to be mysterious by design.
THAT is a fascinating story! I subbed you ages ago, yet you've dropped off the algorithm completely for me. Glad to see your videos again.
lately all my fav creators disappeared from my feed. now I just search for them
His last known alias was Cotton Eye Joe, but no one seems to know where he went.
Nor where he comes from.
Where did he come from, Cotton eye Joe?
Had it not been for him, I’d have been married a long time ago.
Whahah
Nice one, orangecitrus8056
If I was immortal, and I didn't want anyone to know, I'd make people think I was fake.
if you were immortal you would probably try and experiment a little, after all - you have time
Just like Lucifer
Even Lucifer doesn't know when GOD calls the horns.
I AM Immortal and anyone can become physically immortal but it will take years to obtain. The Bible gives the secret
unless you had been around for thousands of years, then I guess you wouldn't give a shit anymore
"Please allow me to introduce myself, I'm a man of wealth and taste. I've been around for a long, long year, Stole many a man's soul and faith...Pleased to meet you, Hope you guess my name, But what's puzzling you, Is the nature of my game" - The Rolling Stones
Sounds like it could be a song about this guy. :)
Longinus
Thought the lyrics were from the devils point of view speaking on humanities atrocities?? It was painted as a song with “satanic ideology” because it was showing the evil spirituality of humanity being just as important as the good.
Those lyrics are about satan
Woo woo
That song is about the devil and before I read your comment I was thinking he could be a fallen angel lol
Fascinating story. I bet he was a genius, able to memorize huge amounts of information add a charismatic flair and you have an immortal all knowing man.
"He could turn raw metals into gold." "Nobody knew how he became wealthy.." 😅😅😅
this one guys.... good one..
Could be the other way round.
No one knows where his money comes from so people suspect he turns metal into gold.
That's what I said right away. Duh!
😂😂😂 well, where did he get all that base metal? Was he in the military? Why is it on a base in the first place?
Ha! Good point. It's a mystery.
Here is my take on the character. The guy was probably raised in a good noble family. He was accustomed to the nobility and knew how to press their buttons. In this way, he could always find ways to infiltrate their circles by playing on their fantasies (alchemy, eternal life). The guy was a great self-promoter before the word was invented. At one point, his legend took a life of its own and we still have disciples of the man even today. The fact that Casanova, who was a master manipulator, did not hold him in high esteem says a lot.
Casanova didn’t appreciate the competition!
@@margomoore4527 I agree!
Pretty sure Casanova saw another charismatic noble as an opp
I'm inspired by this guy. I will henceforth devote the rest of my life to teaching all of my knowledge, wisdom, and mannerisms to my (younger) doppelgangers, and will instruct them to do the same in kind.
Maybe an illegitimate son of a noble, While never formally claimed maybe his noble parents made provision for his education, and he got to spend a lot of time around nobility. But with no official heritage it made it easy for him to move around unnoticed.
Voltaire described Saint Germain as "a man who never dies, and who knows everything." This remark was likely made in a tongue-in-cheek manner, reflecting Voltaire’s famous wit rather than a literal belief in Saint Germain's immortality.
Pascal said, "If I were a betting man, I'd wager St. Germaine was a Faux-ier. Playing the odds."
True, sarcasm maybe? Not that I'm a fan of Voltaire but still...
You sheep!!!! (Heckle fish 🐠 voice)
@@lawrencefrost9063 Voltaire was anti religious and completely materialist. He would never believe such claims.
@@agranero6 well said... plus Voltaire was jealous of St Germaine's popularity and obvious many talents...
A person with charisma and swagger can carve their way far up into the social hierarchy without actually producing or knowing anything at all.
When he was found out, he moved.
Aristocracy being what it is, and the world a much more sparsely populated place, they had all probably heard about him but did not know who he really was, and he doesn't seem to have done anything else than talk and boast.
So much so that we in fact have conspiracies about his immorality.
Well done.
You nailed, people steam most charming and lies, and manipulation, that's the reason countries are ruled by liars and crooked politicians and not by scientists or man of intellectual high level.
@@Boykot1 like a much more skilled and intelligent version of Anna Sorokin. Well, as long as we can take the accounts of him at face value
You are absolutely right. I have observed a few bullshitters rise up among the ranks or waltzing into a job of power by taking credit of other people's achievements and ideas and lying on their resumé. They rarely stay on the job for long enough to face real accountability, but now they have something traceable to add into their CV. "Was he working in your company?" Is usually all the new employer asks, not how good impact they had in their previous position. Of course, these successful con men are very good at explaining any failures on their part and their need to move on.
He's getting on now and the highlight of his life was being elected president
You took the words right out of my mouth. MARIE from the uk 🇬🇧🏴🌹
Clearly The Doctor lost his Tardis and was living his best, immortal life stuck on Earth.
mic drop!!! 🎤
Taking the long way round. 😊
This is the comment I was looking for
Would make a better story than the crap they're writing these days.
If the Doctor found his lost Tardis, would that be considered reTardis?
You left out one of the most famous stories of saint Germain. Once he was entertaining a rich family at a dinner party and he played the piano for their daughter. At that time she was 10 years old then.
And 40 years later they met again. She came up to his and commented how much that he reminded her of another gentleman she knew when she was a child.
But it couldn't possibly be the same man because he was in his early 40s at the time. That would make him over 80 when they met again. So she asked him if maybe it was his father or some other relative.
He smiled and said of course I remember playing for you and your family. Even though he didn't look a day older than when she knew him.
But he did Revolutionize the textile industry not in Ceramics or porcelain or dishes though. But in fashion back there they made green dye from arsenic and it was very poisonous. He made a safe green dye for clothing.
Allegedly...
🤔👌 "myth`s rock" ☮
Allegedly...
And he is now under the alias of Keanu reeves
@@aaronrodgers9202 😆😂🤣🤣
@@freeman7395 It's not a "myth". This is in fact merely a rumour, a type of meme.
My niece writes, reads and speaks fluently four different languages and plays piano, guitar and flute as a professional. She is 28 and is a Neuropsychologist for speech impediments.
Hey. I've been watching your engaging content for a while. But I took a hiatus from the channel for about 2 years and recently came back. I realized your tone changed a little. Just wanted to point that out. Feels like a positive but subtle evolution. You were great before and even better now. Thanks for the abstract goodness.
I think it's because the old tone has gone out of fashion a bit. The low pitch emotionless voice that tries to convey the use of logic and reason is associated with conservatism. I'm not saying that conservatism has gone out of fashion, but the mannerism has changed. I don't know about his politics, maybe he's grown out of the image of the traditional man that he used to try to convey. I mean where is the moustache now? He looks more normal, like anyone you would meet in real life. And he advertises a product that supports mental health, I mean it's quite progressive. So who knows, maybe he has just evolved.
His real name isn't in publicly available in documents but he was born in San Germano, Italy around 1690 and his death was confirmed in 1784. He confessed to being the son of Prince Francis II Rakoczi of Transylvania which was most likely another lie. He was most likely the bastard son of one of the princes there, which one we aren't sure it could be 4 different ones. He did not speak all European languages fluently. He spoke Portuguese and Spanish fluently and could speak Italian and French with a Piedmont accent. San Germano area has a Piedmont accent. He could speak decent German but only spoke broken English. Prince Edward said he was a small, gray haired elderly man, not a 40-year-old. There are so many problems with his story if you really do the time to research it properly. He was likely a conman, not that he stole from people but he was happy to live rent-free in palaces sharing his stories. All his gems were fake and he died with about $100 bucks to his name. I could almost write an entire biography on him. I researched for years. Its just a story, nothing more.
This was the reply I was looking for!
That's what an immortal trying to throw off historians would say... /j
This sounds like another jealous immortal who didn't share the same spotlight..lol
Spoilsport- you won't get invited to castle parties with that attitude 😂
So he was a 40y.o. man at any point of time otherwise he couldn't have turned into an elderly man with grey hair...by the way I know ppl with 40 that allready have grey hair
Thanks for finally making a video about me. I've been bored, lately, and thought about becoming a TH-cam influencer, but I found that making ceramics feeds my soul more fully. Oh, and before I go: Je ne mange que des chaussures le mercredi.
It's important to note that this is not a common or recommended practice, as shoes are not edible and can cause harm.
"Comme disait Madame de Pompadour, d'après le compte lui-même : "A chacun ses mauvais goûts ". Le Mercredi, Hermès mange ses sandales aillées. Tu sembles vraiment être lui, and you speak many languages ? :) ;)
Ahh. At last I found you. The quickening
@@SeeHearThis
My dog would disagree😊
I would just like to note that you changed the meaning of the french sentence by changing the position of the "que" word, instead of placing it before the object,"Les chaussures",it should be before the "le mercredi" , meaning that "you only eat shoes on Wednesday", instead you wrote that "on Wednesday, you eat only shoes"... I'll see myself out.
I've seen other TH-cam versions of some of the stories that you have told, but it's the wry, witty humor and color that you add (or humour and colour, if you're not in to that whole U.S. brevity thing) that keeps me coming back. Rock on, Thoughty2!
In 1989, I met him in Pittsburg, California. He was indeed very talented. He taught me the recipe for the best cocktail I've ever had. I call it The Immortal.
lol
Well? Share the recipe!
@@Broeckchen I concur...... are you gunna share this recipe mate?!
@@fiona2993SHARE IT
@@Broeckchen No point in sharing the recipe, it's a lot of Work to make. ;D
You forgot there were a few people who during the count’s living period said they knew him in their teens, and now being in their 40s or 50s said he looked like he never aged a day from that time. Not that this proves, just another interesting piece of the pie
people willingly repeat lies if it makes them feel included. Think of today and the argument for men competing in female sports. We all know it's ridiculous but there are people actually supporting it. Same thing here, one person lies and says they knew him as a lark or for some personal motivation and someone wanting favor with that person agrees. Most of history is lies.
My thought was if he was immortal he wouldn't have aged between 1740's and 1770's and anybody else surely would. And I doubt that make-up was THAT good at that time to give the illusion of aging.
This reminds me of a story of a chinese kungfu master. People of his village said that he was already an old man when they were children but they said it when they already had grandchildren. It is claimed the kungfu master got 256 years old.
@@bernhard254yeah on that one he was a Chinese herbalist and had a specific diet, know one thing was goji berries, but forget what else he took. But he had a birth certificate and different local government certifications celebrating different milestones of his life. Seemed to be a decent amount of paperwork. Maybe he found a life extender or just a fluke of genetics.
Was going to say the same. Wasn't there a queen who knew him when she was a child and he looked to be around 30, then she met him later and said he hadn't aged?
As a kid who had to live between 5 different family members in 3 different states my best quality was adapting. Adapting to new environments, adapting to new groups of people you now have to prove/introduce yourself to, new standing in society(low class-middle class), new schools, soo many new inputs for your brain to adapt to and it does. I learned very quickly how to read people and make friends. Every time i had to move to a different place, it was a new opportunity to try it again, and i got better every time. from my totally unreliable anecdotal evidence, i agree with Thoughty2, that him being born in nobility and at 4 had to move, all while changing parents, changing lives and having to adapt to all of that in secret because your life may depend on it, and then continuing that lifestyle becoming a "renaissance man" seems most realistic to me.
The part about him speaking so many languages "fluently" made me wonder if he used a similar "double-speak" technique that Sid Caesar was known for. He could speak gibberish, but make it sound like he was speaking German, French, or Spanish. To someone who didn't speak those languages, you'd believe he was actually speaking fluently
Surely someone who did know the language would overhear at some point
@The-Ginjaninja It's possible, but I could see any confusion being assumed as a simple mistake. This man seemed to plan his travel to very specific locations where he likely knew most of the population spoke a language he did speak fluently.
It's also just one possibility. Sid Caesar did this with English speaking audiences, so I don't know how well it would work for someone speaking Italian or Spanish. He became so good at it because he grew up around many people who spoke different languages. He learned how each language sounded, how it was paced, etc. Then during his comedy skits (The German General being one of his vest known) he could speak gibberish, but in a way that resembled German to a non-speaker. Thhen throw in a few commonly known German words that non-speakers would recognize. And since most of his skits still required the audience to have an idea of what is supposed to be being said, use English words to convey the important dialoge, but with an exaggerated German accent.
As I said, I don't know how well that would work in another language, but I was just suggesting it was one possibility.
In Europe many people are trilingual and not always the same three. So that would be nearly impossible anywhere other than London. But also fairly easy to learn more European languages once you learned the first few. Many linguists know dozens of languages
@@jacobc246 Fair enough. It was just a thought
Came here to say that. I'm sadly neither magical nor immortal, and speak several European languages fluently, and several more conversationally.
I like how the original Star Trek series of the 1960s used this topic as a very interesting episode.
"Requiem for Methuselah"
@@js5665 Yes. That's one of my favorites. I commented on this.
Jerome Bixby expanded the concept into the stand-alone movie "The Man From Earth" (2007). As he was approaching death himself in 1998, Bixby dictated the screenplay to his son.
The movie is very low budget and seems almost like a straight-to-video 80s movie in terms of its production values, and yet...it's really excellent, and distinctive. (Holds a 100% RT rating.)
There was an issue of Neil Gaiman's Sandman comic with a similar theme. In the end the man is allowed to die and happy to do so.
A relevant movie is "The Man from Earth" from 2007. It's an awesome little-known movie which delves into the concept of a man who never ages, claims to have met historical figures over thousands of years past and was even a biblical figure himself. It's quite an underrated, thought-provoking piece and I recommend it highly.
I watched that movie when it released and recently watched it a year or so ago
He was Jesus
Great 👍 🎉 movie. 🎥 There’s a sequel. Wish they had done more. Amazing actors in them. Many from various Star Trek shows.
@@admiralsuperior3Jesus aged
I own that
Colour me entertained, well done Arran!
Original title: "This man claimed to be immortal and history can't prove otherwise"
For when this inevitably gets retitled
Yeah why have so many of the videos been retitled?
I used to make those "original title was" comments but I guess I was too convinced, despite Thoughty2 sharing these interesting vids, that his audience ultimately didn't care and that Thoughty2 was obviously making a baity title to grab more attention within the first 24hrs for the algorithm.
Is this a re-upload? It feels like I've seen it before.
He does this because it’s a symbol of the elites to other elites. They use punlic messaging to spread ideas and plan societal shifts. He is talking in code to others like him
he died hundreds of years ago lol
my first thought was "oh.. simple, he's dr. Who".
Yes 😂
i mean, he even has a connection to Madame de Pompadour!! this dude is def The Doctor
Literally my first thought aswell
I was like: "Hmm... DOCTOR WTF DID YOU DO NOW!!!" 😂😂😂😂
1 immortal
2 has rizz
3 can psychic paper his way into any government
yup. checks out.
They say that we die twice - firstly when our body fails and secondly when our name is on someone's lips for the very last time. In that sense at least - the Count of St Germain is indeed still alive, and may still be for a long time to come.
I think the Count is a true immortal, calls himself Simon these days and hosts 120 TH-cam channels simultaneously.
Allegendly
😂😂😂❤
Are U In his basement by any chance
@@Elmanash or the Blazement? ❄
I litterally laughed out loud at this.
I spent many years working in law enforcement in New Orleans especially during and after Hurricane Katrina. Right after the storm when the entire French Quarter was dark and mostly deserted except for us Louisiana State Special Officers and the National Guard. Myself and the Guard unit I was paired with met a man who came out of nowhere clean and well dressed which was not possible at this time and he introduced himself as Jack. Later in the conversation he said he was Count St. Germaine. We were skeptical and asked him if he needed help and he said no but we did and then he was gone. You can say what you want but this happened in front of two State Officers and 6 National Guard members and we reported this to our HQ and they even heard him speaking while we were on the radio.
whoa. thanks for sharing!
I believe you yo.
Very interesting but, it is the French Quarter- 😎
🤔 how came that Jack revealed his past name? Can you detail?
@@davidponseigo8811 There are a lot of Napoleons on institutions too.
Maybe the Count was a disgraced mariner, unjustly arrested for a crime he didn't commit, and he was educated in prison by a fellow prisioner who happened to be a priest, escaped and found a great treasure, to then come back, join the aristocracy and exact revenge on everyone who wronged him. That would be a great book to read.
just watched this movie 🤣
@@lilyawh name of the movie?
@@andreteles1428 the count of monte cristo super good it’s not about st germain tho
Nothing Beats Dumas book.
This is immediately what I went to, as well lol
I really enjoy your content, always very well spoken & it seems your education is vast. Thanx.
Back in the 1980s, author Chelsea Quinn Yarbro wrote a series of books based on Le Compte de St. Germain, imagining him as a vampire. A good read for those interested in the genre.
I stumbled upon this channel when feeling a hankering for some history. This was my first one to watch and I subscribed right afterwards. I'm now bingeing on Thoughty2. My view on St Germain is that it began with a need to fit in. He knew how to read situations, clearly had an advanced grasp on social psychology for the most part, telling people what they wanted to hear - and whilst gaining acceptance, he became a part of the social structures he targeted. Yeah, a massive attention seeker - with a personality disorder and some glaring mistakes - but based on the times, I'm not surprised he mostly got away with it.
A killer piece of history. Can't believe no movie was made about this amazing story.
I suspect "Requiem for Methuselah" from _Star Trek:TOS_ was inspired by him. I don't know, but it was my first thought.
There's one movie:
"The Man From Earth" (2007)
Not exactly this particular person, but more or less the same story.
Try Virginia Wolf's, ORLANDO
Several science fiction storylines have been done about him, like the original Twilight Zone.
Dorian Gray?
Chelsea Quinn Yarbro wrote a series of 20-30 historic vampire novels with the Count Saint-Germain as her very noble, good-guy vampire protagonist. They span many historic eras. Pretty fun.
another option is that he trained a apprentice to take over as him , and every time a new count nears death he trains a new apprentice, which would make it the worlds longest con ever
Sort of like the Dread Pirate Roberts.
@@diminudivadollhaus2097 That's what I was going to say
The truth behind Nicolas Flamel in Harry Potter
or its Longinus, if the story is true. He was cursed to be a solider forever though.
@@diminudivadollhaus2097
My thought exactly! 👍
His last time he turned up was D.B. Cooper 😅
Howard Hunt.
he called himself dan cooper not db cooper. that was news reports added the b
Keith Richards?
@@40knpride I wonder if he can play the violin?!🥴
Sssshhhhh! 😂😂😂
This channel is immortal! I've been watching A LONG TIME! much love!
I absolutely LOVED this video it brings many valid points to the table as well as provided me with so many details about the count that I didn't previously know and I'm glad I clicked it
A REAL human telling stories and no AI. I like you. Subscribed!
That's a fair point, a real human reader, that is a worthy value.... Just like zacspeaksgiant for DND stories, some of them may be reddit reads, but he adds so much character, or dark fluff for drama stories about Karen's and entitled people, they don't just copy paste, they actually add to the conversation
using ai is so lame - i hate it
I just wanna say as a long time subscribe that Thoughty2 has come a long way in his speaking and is much more distinct now with his pronunciations. I jist thought it was really cool to see him grow in that way ❤
yikes you could work on your spelling and pronouncing there bud..
The Why Files also did a good video on the Count, glad to see you make one too because it’s an interesting story! 👌
Love the why files
The why files is goated
Oooh I have to find that one. I watch the why files as they come across my feed
Lenord nimoy did one in the 70’s about him
What a great video! I've seen the character appear in different places, like as a mention in books about ancient alchemy, in video games, most famously maybe in the 2nd season of the castlevania Netflix series, but I never knew about the legend behind the person! So all these mentions now make a lot more sense. Thanks for making this video!
I had known of St. Germain for years. And i was so tickled to see they added him in Castlevania! How perfect! As soon as I saw the way he was dressed and magically pulled out jewels from his pouch, I knew it was him!
Author Chelsea Quinn Yarbro made him a vampire in her horror fiction
I have to recommend the film, "The Man From Earth". The central character of the film claims to be immortal, such as this Count did - if you wanted to watch a film of a bunch of people interrogate a man who claims to be immortal.
He claimed he was Jesus
Came to recommend this movie. It makes the idea of an immortal human seem the slightest bit feasible.
@@SlermmMcderm I was trying to avoid spoilers.
I was thinking that from about the halfway point of this video.
@@SlermmMcderm ehh, sort of. IIRC he said people took it way out of context and blew up his deeds and later on called him Jesus.
The movie definitely was pretty heretical in that way though.
Brilliant! This story reminds me of the guy from Catch me if you can, Frank Abagnale. A person whom pretended to be so many, learned, adapted, played many roles and fooled everyone. A highly intelligent person whom knew how to play the game for personal gain and notoriety. That is the weakness or problem of this game he played, by wanting to keep his secret but at the same time to be recognized or noticed, to which he may have known that his tale would be passed down through out history. Perhaps that may have been his end game, in any case we may never know the truth of this fascinating tale of this person. Even his deathbed confession may have been a lie.
Thanks for the tale Thoughty2, loved it!
Your videos are wildly entertaining and informative
He came to New Orleans as Jacques de St. Germain in the early 1900s. He is one of the vampire stories in the French Quarter.
I kept waiting for this topic to come up 😊
Is that what inspired Anne Rice to begin the series?
@@s.engelsman4521 I'm not sure what Anne Rice's inspiration was, but this isn't the only vampire story in New Orleans.
Immortal? Turned metal into gold? *gasp* he's Nicholas Flemel!
Obviously he either misplaced the philosophers' stone, or faked his death.
@@nitt3rz Or he went to McDonalds and developed a taste for tripple cheeseburgers and got a job at a gas station next to it, to help support his tripple cheeseburger addiction.. but he just couldn't handle it... so it went all dark and he started living in a shoe box next to the tent and then one day when he was mashed on crak and full of regret... a huge tornado came and it caught him up into the air, while he was eating a tripple cheeseburger and he was never seen again
Where could he be now? Chained and drop at sea by a rebellious crew? Caught in a mining collapse in the late 1800s? Thrown into a volcano by angry natives?
He's hiding on holy ground with the Highlander 😁
I think he calls himself Tommy Wiseau these days.
Hosting and singularly creating a successful TH-cam channel?
Does it matter? he is immortal
He fell down a well and no one has noticed
Count here.
Thanks for sharing some of the facts of my wonderful life!
A very rich, very talented man of unknown origin immersing himself into high society in record time..He sounds something like a real life Count of Monte Cristo.
That was my thought. Wonder if Alexandre Dumas took inspiration from this Count.
I’m wondering if Ann Rice’s The Vampire Lestate was?
I'm not pushing religion here... just remembering something I read in the Bible. Jesus said "There are some of you standing here who shall not taste of death until you see the Son of Man coming into his kingdom." I have always found this intriguing.
That is precisely what it says. The Kingdom coming with power, however, refers to the ID of YiTRiCh or TeReM YiTsMaCh which is the ability to erase clouds by command which is the equivalent of Saymeon en te Uranos in Koine Greek "coming in the clouds". This is a person standing on the ground and projecting their energy from TsiYoWN up among the clouds and erasing them. This programs the atmosphere of the earth and in fact kills people. It's a sign, ID that Jesus has to have to be the Messiah, Moshiach, 1 Ha'aDaM. And, those people already saw it and died. Not to say they didn't reincarnate.
It is NOT someone coming down from the clouds of the world accepting this person as the LORD (YHWH) requires and them doing as required concerning Him. Because if they don't their Soul dies when their bodies die. MoWTh TaMoWTh, they are destroyed completely, body and Soul. KaL ShaChoWTh.
👈… I thought that was already explained a long time ago… It was the Ascension of Jesus. So Jesus’ Kingdom is not here on the Earth (yet) It is in Heaven seated at the right hand of God where he is Lord and Christ and that’s what he was exalted too,…back then, 2000 years ago. No worries, you’re just a little late… I have to laugh out loud.😂
That meant the event was expected to occur soon, not that anyone there was immortal.
Of course, as with all similar claims made by founders of religions... It ain't NEVER gonna happen.
@@spacemissing Your trying to deviate from the text by your own interpretation of what YOU think it means not what the full realm of scripture from B'Re'ShiYTh "Genesis" to Revelation says it Precisely means. As such you are trying to put yourself above God, the sin of Satan, NaChaSh. 🐍
you are forgetting something..... Well actually someone
TH-cam has more ads in 10 minutes than the old tv shows had in 90 minutes. We gotta bring television back.
Yeah but you can skip for free of pay a small fee (way less than a cable subscription) to remove them all.
Know your priorities 😉
@@mr.octopus6972 true but I use a thousand apps I’m not gonna pay a small fee for every app or even some of them. Tv ads is fine gives you a chance to go take a leak
@@mr.octopus6972yeah but 99 percent of what is uploaded to TH-cam would not pass quality control, for airing on a TV station, so I think that the previous person has a point. We have gotten so used to terrible quality of everything, that we’re willing to pay hundreds of times more for it, then it will ever be worth.
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theres a sweet ,free ad remover ........look it up,never seen an ad in yrs
AMAZING VIDEO MATE, MUCH LOVE FROM AUSTRALIA!!!!
I love when I actually know the topic of the story before watching! Thanks for another video, we needed it!
-And when asked how to call him he answerd simply - The Emperor of Man
Oh good! I'm glad I'm not the only one who started thinking that while watching.
Yes! Someone else thought about it!
I think you're being shadow baned, my friend. It's been months since I've seen me some Thoughty2
Same here.
same
agreed. they dont like us being informed.
His content isn't important enough to get shadow banned, 😆
probably because everyone stopped watching him after he started non stop promoting betterhelp. youtube doesnt push videos that people are clicking off of half way through the ad that he always puts in at 1 minute into the vid. hes killing his own channel, not getting shadowbanned. his advertising is so greedy and disgusting. most youtubers put an ad for a reputable company at the END of the video, not an evil scam at the very start. this is his doing
Guessed who it was by the titles, this guy fascinated me when I discovered his existence my freshman year of highschool. His full history- as far as it can be known- is quite amazing, good video❤
You’ve got to love an über con artist who essentially evaded all responsibility.
Awesome, man! A very interesting character indeed. I didn't know more than his name before this video. Thanks for the effort and the quality!
So he was thousands of years old by the time the 1750's hit. And nobody knows who he was. Let me guess he traveled in a Blue Box.
Who? 😂😂 😂
@@Geekerella00 exactly
He was the guy Kirk and Spock found alone in a planet with a blonde girl that Captain Kirk fell in love with.
@druidic4353 no what I am saying is that the count st. Germain is the Doctor
@@josephcooter5763 Everybody knows the Doctor plays an electric guitar.
I didn't know ANY of this, a great tale while I'm folding my laundry. Thanks!
I met the count once and asked his manservant if he truly was over 1 thousand years old, but sadly he couldn't confirm this, telling me that he'd only worked for the count for 300 years...
where did you met him, what country and city and what month and year
I see what you did there 😏
Quinn Yarbro fan, too?
@@moniquetroth No, Robert Rankin
@@mwudzyWhat a load of old Gammon... 😉
Some people have suggested that he begat a son who resembled himself, and taught him everything he knew. So when he would visit a country 40 years later, hardly anyone would know them apart. But I started reading about him as a child, probably in one of the Ripley’s Believe It or Not, and who could not be intrigued by this man’s story.
I think he shows up as a supporting character in the “Outlander” books.
Basically, history’s example of the pulp fiction era hero, The Phantom
@@Sandsquid21Interesting view 🤔
“Aye,…and I cannot die!” - The Highlander.🤷🏼
@@Sandsquid21…Nah, The Highlander…”Aye, and I cannot die!”.
Yes, he is an intriguing character in the Outlander books. A great touch in books about mysterious time travel. :)
2:48 Bruv, there's been a lot of controversies with BetterHelp as early as in the time of pandemic and you still get sponsorship from them...
It looks like he needs some.. better help with his sponsors. See what I did there orangecitrus?
All YT sponsors are a scam. Every single one.
I would have figured he would research them as much as he does his content for his videos. The fact he still accepts sponsorships from them causes me concern about his accuracy and attention to detail for his videos. 🤦♂️ 😔
Considering that he uses AI art for thumbnails, its obvious he doesn't care
@@KryptonianAI fr, where even are the sources?
This man is, in fact, the Emperor of Mankind. We will see him gain popularity in about 30 thousand years.
I am Duncan MacLeod, born four hundred years ago in the Highlands of Scotland. I am Immortal and I am not alone. For centuries we've waited for the time of the Gathering, when the stroke of a sword and a fall of a head will release the power of the Quickening. In the end, there can be only one.
Connor MacLeod, of the clan MacLeod.
...there.wa only 1 reply, but now 2. 🍻
coffee? Tea?
@@bradleywells1071 tea with 🤔..ty
"I know his name." - The Kurgan.
"When 800 years old YOU are, look this good you will not." - Count St. Germain
😂😂😂
I'll slightly disappointed, it was never brought up about him being a vampire in New Orleans who put on lavish parties, but never ate with anybody. Then fled New Orleans after "attacking" a woman and biting her neck. That was how i learned about him. I'm New Orleans, you can still see his former home.
@CajunCatguy is a really exciting historic mystery. I've only ever been to NO twice, but everyone I go, there is something be. I love the history. I wish I could visit more often. Just not in summer. 🥵
Make a great character for an Assassins Creed game.
Lastat from interview with the vampire the new tv show
Most of his stories are French centric. Don’t know why he didn’t mention them.
@Hustis1 it's a rather old book written by Anne Rice, and it even had a movie where Tom Cruise played Lestat. My namesake is from that series lol.
I really enjoyed this. Thanks!
You forgot one crucial part of the story about him being the son of Prince Rakoczi; The story goes he was shipped off in secret and raised as a ward of the de' Medici family, which would more than explain his broad range of talents. Npw if this happened when he was 4 years old, they could have told him he was a different age and he wouldn't be any the wiser. That would have made the year his father was born and how old he told he was before he died completely negligible. The de Medici may have even instilled in him the idea he could "be anyone or anything he wanted" to be forever an aid to him in keeping his identity a secret.
It's not a single, specific body-person, but rather a carefully guided personality by secret leaders, into a new host.
There is a guy living not too far, he's looking just like him.
Let's search his basement
and where is this
He must be still alive 😂
It's not our job to prove that something didn't happen. It's the job of the claimant to prove that it did happen.
Exactly.
The burden of proof is on the ones making the claim.
Can you justify that claim itself? Or else it is self refuting
@@wakemeup38
If you make a claim, you have to provide proof if you want logical rational people to believe you.
Duh.
@@wakemeup38 Not proving that someone else made a claim isn't making a claim.
that's why my prime mantra is "i believe nothing i hear and only half of what i see."
i'm sure you DID see a ghost or lived 10 lifetimes. got any receipts? pictures? iphone video? exceedingly old parchments? ancient trinkets? psych meds? people tell me weird shhh all the time and invariably i'm either gonna completely dismiss it as garbage you picked up on facebook like fleas OR i'm gonna look up the associated press and npr
He was most likely a scammer. A fake influencer, we have those now. Where they go into debt to fake an image of looking rich, where they rent fake jets to take pics,etc. This dude was basically the old school type..probably.
Except for the problem of him actually succeeding and praised at succeeding at the endeavors he promoted. Scammers are inherent failures, not actually successors of their main claims. Barring the Philospher Stone nonsense, the recorded failures of St Germaine were never scam and were always pure lab failure, aka typical science failure.
You can't fake education musical training gentleman's etiquette etc social protocol as well. More too it than just a faker I believe
We have them now because we live our lives online. He was able to immerse himself amongst the highly educated and most worldly people of the time. You’re oversimplifying what a sophisticated scam it would have been to fool that many people
@@fendermcmarshall An educated faker is still a faker, likely a son of a noble or rich merchant that became ruined. He then migrate from places until he reached England
So highly educated… tho I wonder how he kept moving his wealth all over the place. Unless he planted money in banks of several countries before going to England
Fascinating! Thanks for explaining this!
Ive read this story and heard this story so many times, and it is still plumb amazing that it is true, at least for the actual parts confirmed and nothing to do with his immortal claims. He may not have been supernatural, but his ability sure as hell was incredible.
In another version of this story he would never be seen eating or drinking anything at those high class dinner parties except for some kind of elixir that he would keep in a small bottle in his pocket.
Thanks Arran.
It was probably absinthe
@@shart_with_force6686adrenochrome.
2:59 DO NOT USE BETTER HELP!!!
Why?
They don't verify the people who give therapy. @huntergann938
@@huntergann938 betterhelp is known for having horrible service with one therapist encouraging suicide and another encouraging hard drugs as a solution
@@huntergann938 Better help is known for selling its user's data without permission and doesn't seem to care for the people they are "trying" to help 😔
Why?
Thanks i really enjoyed this one. Didnt know the roots of the " I Am"...excellent! Really always enjoy your program.
Your channel Disappear from my feed! I am Glad I found it again! All the Best from Brasil! ps: Love your research about the Count, Nice video indeed.
I never imagined seeing a video of myself. I am open for an interview to finally put a rest to the guessing game.
😂😂😂
Never? Not in hundreds of years?
Is it true you saw the Lord and he cursed you to immortality for your cruelty?
So, you've been on YT for 3 years and have only 1 comment? You must be him! After all, he did stay out of the limelight, didn't socialize much, made no claims about himself, etc. You've convinced me. 😂
Hm nooit gedacht dat je in Nederland ofwel Vlaanderen zou belanden. Zeg, wanneer wint NL nu eindelijk eens het WK?
The person who draws the pictures to Thoughtys videos has a very distinctive style, I like it.
"person"
Better help, is a platform, you CAN NOT trust! Don't fall for that scam. Unlicensed, random people, selling your very private data.
Thoughty2 is Immortal. I've been watching his content for years, and the man doesnt seem to age.
He only gets a more luscious mustache every year
Yep. He started making videos when he was like 21. And he looks pretty much the same I agree. lol
Mayne he's the real Count of St. Germain, throwing tracks off by claiming it can't be real!
True, and I've been following his channel for more than 150 years.
FINALLY, a new episode of the Count of St. Germain from Thoughty2! One of my favorite mysteries from history!
Its not a mystery ... he made shit up
It's not new it's a re upload
Raised by a wealthy family who lost all family money so he reinvented himself and made up a story to be interesting. Kept details vague and obviously he was charming and well educated. Basically a con man and a good one at that. Not sure why it's a mystery.
honestly one of the best channels on youtube
one of?
Yup, this video proves it. Captivating the entire way through with suspense, several plot twists for the audience and a realistic payoff at the end(Mr Ballen has nailed this storytelling technique with spooky stories with similar success, for reference). I've been watching Thoughty for the better part of a decade or more, and his style just gets better with time. I hardly watch any other historical or scientific content on youtube, but always watch this dudes stuff as soon as I see a new video pop up on my feed.
Thank you for making this video, it was fascinating and kept me entertained :)
2:00 the Chewbacca defense works in almost every occasion
Huh?
@@donmateo5311 according to famous lawyer, Johnnie Cochran - “if Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit”
"I never eat shoes in the middle of the week"
Truly the words of an enlightened demigod
Ah, yes. I remember those days. Nowadays I prefer to lay low. I switched the violin for the bass, changed my name a few dozen times. Feels nice to get the truth out there! in a place no one will read, of course.
My FYP brought me! Very interesting and well done.
He's....he's....The Doctor!
Doctor…. Who?
Yes, but one that hasn’t regenerated yet.
Dr. Who? I want to see the TARDIS! 😊
I’m pretty sure he snogged Madame de Pompadour while he was in France.
No, he's Captain Jack Harkness.
I am so sad and disappointed to see one of the smartest men on this platform to take on better help as a sponsor and say they can be trusted with a straight face. They have made so much money selling the personal information of the very people they are taking money from with the promise of helping them connect with therapist to improve their mental health. It's even more sad when that means either A) one of the smartest people on TH-cam isn't doing any research let alone a simple Google search on the sponsor B) you have sold your integrity and chose money over the viewers that may be looking for a solution to mental health problems... either way that is disappointing.
Better help is just another evil company looking to put profit over people disguising itself as a caring organization, there are far better options that don't sell out their customers who are already in a bad place. Don't let these leeches step on the people who look to you for an escape from day to day stress and education, please do better, hell I would even take another raid shadow legends ad campaign at least they are honest about what they want from their customers.
Damn you right. They are trash. The fact that they settled one of the suits confirms it. They even sold health question answers to advertisers. Thank you for letting us know this.
Not so sure about the smartness, but the sponsor was clearly either not well researched, or not minded.
@@Jonagold92 i think he would promote anything for the right money. next video promotion? Prime! :)))) again WTF Thoughty..
Yeah that and the use of AI thumbnails
He not that smart since his videos are garbage compared to better videos