Star Wars Theory REACTS: Kenobi vs Padawan Anakin Skywalker Training Duel
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Being there live was an event, I started crying so hard. I’m watching this rn taking blinkers, feeling like it was that first live Night.
💙🤘🏻🙌🏻
Being…where?
@@dylantrost4471 the watch party
yikes, blinkers, not good.
@@pepesilvia2094 blinkers? Pls clarify I’m not hip
1:25 I just realized that volley of heavy downward strikes is exactly the same as what Luke did to defeat Vader in ROTJ.
Yuuuuup just realized it myself
Remind Yourself of Anakin fighting Barris
Seeing Hayden, seeing Anakin's beautiful fighting style, hearing his voice ohhhhh yes!!!!
It was the dream
Kenobi wasn’t the master Anakin needed, unlike Qui-Gon. He needed a father, not a brother. Furthermore, when giving criticism, Kenobi was not good at a “criticism sandwich”, or a compliment followed by criticism, followed by another compliment. He would compliment first, but then end with a criticism. This left an emotionally needy Anakin feeling torn down. “You’re a great warrior, Anakin. But your need to prove yourself is your undoing. Until you overcome it, a Padawan you will still be.
But Qui-Gon is dead, so...? What's your point? In a ideal scenario sure Qui-Gon would have been the figure Anakin needed but he wasn't. It fell to Kenobi, that responsibility was huge especially as the clone wars began. Kenobi did everything he could, you are picking off one single scene where it was right for Kenobi to be critical of Anakin because he is quite literally training him so he does not become shortsighted during a duel and end up losing. Which is what happens to him on Mustafar. Stop with the 'its Kenobi's fault' nonsense when Anakin made those decisions himself and all Kenobi was doing was trying his best as a fairly new mentor to guide him and make it explicitly clear that he had to handle such situations like we see in this scene better.
People shit on Kenobi now but it isn't like he could have saved Qui-Gon, Destiny itself ensured Anakin's fate to a degree.
@@uilliam6926 Actually you're wrong. Theres plenty of examples why Obi Wan isn't a good mentor. He himself admitted he failed Anakin and he did. A lot of people failed him. Obi Wan, Palpatine as a false mentor because he's a literaly groomer, Ahsoka, and the entire Jedi Order failed him. Watch Villain Therapy withAnakin Skywalker by Cinema Therapy. It sheds light on a lot, and it makes a point of Obi Wans rather flimsy and damaging teaching style.
So what you cant take LEARNING, he says nothing wrong here... your crossing fan topics with scenes that don't match.
@@S308. What? No, I’m applying real life psychology to Star Wars. If Obi-Wan was aware of Anakin’s needs, and ready to be a teacher, he would’ve used the “Criticism Sandwich” technique I mentioned. I’m sure Qui-Gon would have.
I don’t think anyone noticed but Anakin’s first lightsaber hilt is very similar to Darth Vader’s lightsaber hilt, the only thing that changed was the color of the emitter
I have. Since 2002.
O thank god
bro everyone knows this
@@Capybara2240 do they tho
@@dspiderman230 yep, it’s pretty well known
Thought theory was gonna cry when this was live ngl😂
Dude this was such a great moment, I had the exact same reaction in the watch party lol
Same here!
These Flashbacks Were Incredible. Some of My Favorite Moments in All Of Star Wars!
They need to do more scenes like this and edit them into extended cuts of episode 2 and 3. Showing them training together and show more of Obi wan helping him deal with missing his mother.
thing is, obi wan didnt help him with that
This is one of my favorite moments in Disney Star Wars. I will say I did shead a couple tears.
Same @Saadevideo
I was really excited to see that flashback scene, like seriously this made me very hopeful for the Kenobi series to get better within the last episodes. Tbh, I kinda hope that we get season 2 for this show.
I cried so hard while watching this live with you. Feelings SHOULD be shared
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I'm really surprised that there were not more flashback scenes in this series. This scene was cool but it didn't add anything that we didn't already know.
I disagree it foreshadows the final duel in the last episode and further details how obi wan always has the upper hand on his apprentice and even when anakin becomes vader obi wan is still craftier and still teaching him more lessons
I agree I thought they would at least have these two donned the suits from the clone wars
I love using my brain and connecting dots, not needing to be spoonfed. This was just a beautiful addition to the live action saga though. Not needed but very welcomed
This fight was better than all the fights in the sequels
Such a tired and played out analysis. These comments are becoming cancerous at this point
It is
This was beautiful
As a true Star Wars fan it’s impossible to ever get sick of seeing Ewan and Hayden dueling. They just dedicate so much to it and make it a grand spectacle every time! I thank them both for their contributions to the saga and the lore
Star Wars characters and fans alike blamed Kenobi for not doing enough with Anakin, not getting through to him to steer him on the right path. But as you can see here and I'm gonna venture to guess on many other occasions as well, he did in fact try and in a calm and meaningful manner. Anakin's turning is his own undoing and all on him. Change my mind.
@@Paradox-si9wj True, but that wasn't his only issue. That talk with Padmé about getting people to listen and something about forcefully making them, is just another taste of his dark side mentality.
@@alienrefugee51
Fear is what leads his path to the DarkSide...
The fear of losing the
One he loves, Anakin already lost his mother,and he felt like he wasn't strong enough to save her..
Now was trying to save his wife from certain death, Sidious
promised the way to cheat death, Anakin was desperate to learn anything to stop Padme from dying..
When you think about it,can you blame his want to not fail again to save his wife..
Even though it would go against everything he was raised to believe
What most fans fail to realize is literally it was Anakin‘s destiny to fall to the dark side. Balance within the force means someone going through the light side and the dark side having experience both, only such a person can bring balance to the force. That is the true prophecy of the chosen one. Although it didn’t have to be the way events happened.
It was the will of the force for Qui-gon Jinn to die at the hands of Darth Maul. The word Qui means Chi which means “Internal/ Eternal Energy.” The word Jinn means breath ghost spirit or gas force. The word Jinn is also Djinn or Genie. Only through the physical death of the body release the spirit, the life force, the soul is free to elevate to a new level of power, becoming omnipotent, if you will. “If you strike me down I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.” Old Ben Kenobi said these words, but this was first discovered by Qui-gon Jinn.
Anakin Skywalker would have never fallen to the Darkside in only 2 of these scenarios. 1) If Mace Windu trained Anakin. He Mastered The Darkside and was the only Jedi to ever do so. This directly would’ve allowed The Chosen One to deal with his inner darkness, harness it & command it to his will, not the other way around.
2) If Obi-wan & Anakin were never separated in ROTS. Many of the fans failed to see, Anakin’s fall to the Darkside took a serious descent the moment Anakin & Obi-wan were split up. “Divide & Conquer.” This was a very cold & calculated move on Palpatine’s part. Remember on The Ship “The Invisible Hand” After Anakin killed Count Dooku, thanks to the manipulation from The Supreme Chancellor. Anakin has Mastered his anger, from the war forging him into the youngest Master The Order ever had. Skywalker disarmed Dooku with no intention of killing him. It was the final check move. Palpatine, Anakin’s supposed friend and mentor advised Anakin to leave his true best friend and mentor for dead on the ship. Anakin sharply replied No, in his own way. This moment showed Palpatine, in order to fully ensnare Anakin, he had to separate the two. Anakin still believed in the Jedi way. His final connection to the Jedi Order was Kenobi.
The bond between Anakin & Obi-wan was stronger than it had ever been. Anakin would die for his Master. And so would Obi-wan. This too was not the Jedi way. Their bond was stronger than any rule the Jedi created nor maintained. The war forged their bond as strong as, if not stronger than Qui-gon & Obi-wan. That’s really sayin somethin. Qui-gon always had Obi-Sam’s back, they were never separated throughout their time together. I’d hate to see what could’ve become of Kenobi if the Chancellor were secretly influencing him against his Master. In order for Obi to be turned, he & his master would have to separated. As to what successfully happened to Ani & Obi. Remember how concerned & disturbed Ani was when Obi was sent to Utapa without him. “Your gonna need me on this one Master.” - Anakin. Skywalker was frustrated with the Jedi Council, but not with His Best friend Obi-wan. The moment Obi-wan was separated from his best friend, Palpatine could sink his claws into Anakin without the strength bond & love of Obi-wan. A great many fans underestimate the strength and bond of Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi But these same fans never underestimate the strength and bond of Qui-gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi.
I think out of everyone and everything that happened in Anakins life, Obi-Wan was without doubt the least of his worries, or at least should have been
If you just watch clone wars his character makes much more sense, the prequels were awful at characterizing anakin
They should've made them both look younger
There's a reason why Anakin could never beat Obi Wan...he's way too emotional damaged..lol all jokes aside Anakin/Vader is way more powerful then Obi but Obi wan always had the patience of a Monk with the broken skill of the high ground.
Facts. Obi Wans level of Focus and Patience couldn’t be matched.
Well, took you long enough.
So humble you are
And where have you been?
I just rewatched AotC and a thought came up. It would’ve been very interesting to get a series showing the gap between Phantom Menace and AotC bc Anakin is just a kid during the entirety of episode 1 and then we get to episode 2 and he’s about 18 or so. It’d be interesting to see his and Obi-Wan’s adventures while seeing Anakin grow up and their relationship develop
Yeah they could definitely get a brand new actor to play the 14 year old Anakin too
Oh how quickly we descended into apathy with the Acolyte. How sad.
I know I'm not the only one who is reminded of episode 3 from this. Beautiful scene.
when i saw the fight... i couldn't gauge what the win condition was. Anakin look like he won because he pinned Kenobi down while disarming him... it would be over right? But Obi-wan continued the spar to then say it's over after disarming Anakin... After it was suppose to be over, right?
So the point of this scene is there isn't a win condition... It's the philosophy of what Victory is and how being obsessed with winning makes you blind to actual Victory. Obiwan was still teaching Anakin, although Anakin thought he won, he stopped paying attention to the actual lesson and got his lightsaber taken. Anakin thought beating Obiwan in a fight=win. True Victory is being better than yourself, otherwise you'll be always be a Padawan. That is the actual lesson.
Best part of the series and best episode easily.
glad you could see the emotions in this fan but he not bawling like a performing gimp.
Viewers: man TH-cam recommendations are being boring lately-
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I liked this scene overall, but I still think they should've dome digital de-aging on Hayden's face. "Attack of the Clones" was set when Anakin was 19, but by the time of the "Kenobi" show, Hayden was 40. His performance was still very good, but you could tell he wasn't in his 20s anymore. Ewan didn't need that kind of thing, since he was given the appropriate wig and beard from "Episode II".
At Last, This Was the Reaction I was waiting for
40 Year old Anakin vs an ageless Obi Wan (who aged rapidly when he got to Tatoonie)
Well, two glaring suns will do that
He needed qui gon as his master
I thought Theory was gonna say, "Where was this in Attack of the Clones?"
The music in this scene was really great
The only thing that possibly could've made this better was juxtaposing this with the final fight, like cutting back and forth instead if cutting to revs imo
Did he not slate this series when watching Acolyte?? He said something along the lines might as well watch Bobba or Obi wan in his sarcastic tone
Man General Theory I nearly jumped out of my chair when this happened 👏 Legendary moment
The 40 Year Old Padawan.
This was definitely the best part in the whole show
When obi wans saber was pointed down at the floor, was it touching the floor or hovering above because if it’s touching the floor, the why isn’t going through it?
2:08 why’d they never do that in actual fights lol , just force push the lightsaber away
Anyone else curious why it kept being blurred at random moments?
copyright issues ig
Why aren’t we using sticks again master?
Tbh, coriscant looks identical to how it looked in the acolyte, lifeless.
If only he'd remember he liked stuff like this in the Kenobi series.
I’m sure he does. But just because you enjoy some bits of a movie or series doesn’t necessarily mean that the overall project can’t leave you somewhat disappointed.
@@Chinachik yeah, that's fair.
Has anyone realized that this end of the battle is the exact same as Anakin vs Ashoka in the world between worlds?
1:17 Anakin would have killed Obi here,m if he wasn't his master and friend. Anakin already beat Obi within a minute of fighting.
It should have been Kenobi and Anakin training together and fighting in the clone wars. Not Kenobi babysitting Luke's bratty, obnoxious sister.
I love good vibes theory 😊
Gosh i loved these scenes.
The floor must be made of beskar.
It was kind of stupid training. What happenes if they missed and get cut in half? It's like pistol shooting but there are live people as the targets
Things like this are the reasons anakin fell. How is he supposed to pass a trial without trying to prove himself. And one of the two has to be the aggressor or there will be no duel 🤷♂️
I thought when a jedi pullout there lightsaber they aim to kill?
Surprised he didn’t cry
It doesn't make sense that they kept fighting after Anakin disarmed Obi-Wan. What was the goal of the fight after that if he wasn't trying to kill him?
This scene just shows how flawed Obi Wan was. He was clearly beaten and just couldn't admit it.
You're the one who's flawed. Like Obi-Wan says in Episode 4, "there are alternatives to fighting". Obi-Wan thinks multilaterally and that's why he secured the greater victory. Anakin only thinks about engaging with his duelling skills and that's what makes him lose.
I like how the video keeps fading in and out of focus
Where was that the whole season is exactly what I also said. Specially when the series was called supposedly Obi Wan Kenobi. Or maybe it was Reva Wan Kenobi. Can't remember since it was easily forgettable like all the Disney junk
Hey 'Star Wars Drama'. You forgot to make a follow up video where you contradict your initial, genuine, reaction with one filled with criticisms and hypocritical explanations... Just trying to help the channel out
bro he’s so right most of the season was just total bs , they totally screwed up kenobi all 8 episodes should have been like this
The show had cool moments then ruined by the rest of the episode.
Did you really steal someone else's reaction edit and cover his stuff with your stuff, and then uploaded lol
I'd reckon either Qui Gon Jinn or Mace Windu would be a better teacher for Anakin, we have one that can see through all the weaknesses of the jedi order and through Chancellor Palpatine and we have another who can actually get extremely close to the dark side with the amount of self control he has and actually has a way to use it,either of those jedi would've actually drove Anakin to reach his full potential without getting corrupted by Palpatine
Came back to this series after the Anakin episode of Ahsoka. The music sucks such major dong, I really don't understand why they didn't use any established themes with such integral characters.
Jesus loves you guys so much
Is this some kind of deepfake or something?
Theory never got anything positive to say as if his fan film’s ever turned out .. lolol
They should have had Obi-Wan force pull both sabers in that sparing match and take up the stance that Vader does later in the episode against Reva...
the constant blurring is annoying
Copyright lol
%90 of the video:
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You talking about the random blurring?
@@tannerhiggins2920 nah he just standing there
Not as fast
This guy is watching, he don't react at all
Doppee
This was EASILY the best part of the series.. But even with this, I still have problems with it.
The no de-aging is a BIG red flag.. But Obi-Wan telling Anakin: “You grow too aggressive, Anakin. Be mindful. A Jedi’s goal is to defend life, not take it.”
Whilst mere seconds earlier, Obi-Wan tries to take a slash at Anakin’s face/head 🤨 Dumb! Contradictory and hypocritical.
and this is how to tell when someone doesn't understand how combat works. Anakin's aggression carried him too far forwards and he wasn't paying attention to his own defenses nor to Obi-Wan's ability to riposte. Thus, he almost lost his head. Kenobi slashed at his neck to show him what happens when you overly commit to aggression. It's not contradictory to capitalize on someone's mistake, show them WHY its a mistake and then explain to them that they shouldn't make that mistake again.
Bro it’s embarrassing how bad Starwars has become.L
God bless George Lucas 👍👌😊✊👊🍁♈
Blurred crap.
we need a star wars what if series lol
Could've deaged them for the sake of continuity.
It's was great to see them back but they couldn't even put the effort in making them looking younger here. The show was garbage sadly. Best parts were vader of course but a failed attempt to making a good show. Disney ruins everything.