Man, this is high quality content. I love seeing new channels pop up that are as excited about VR as I am. And not only that, put a lot of work and love into said content. It's nice.
Probably my favorite vr moment of all time was when on pavlov, on Hageru, I was hiding inside a house with my group mates, sniping germans, physically wracking the bolt back, yelling at my teammates telling them where the enemies were, watching my comrades get slowly murdered all around me. There were tears, there were laughs, and there were dead headsets. And like you said, when I think about this, I dont think "I saw everyone around me die and then shot everyone" I think "I physically dodges bullets, hid behind bullets, made connections with people, and pulled back bolts."
I love your point about how memories in VR feel like you’re actually there. I think when you’re playing VR, obviously you’re always somewhat aware that you’re in VR. You can feel the headset on your head, your field of view is lower, you can feel controllers in your hands, etc. But when you revisit the memory, your mind kinda filters out the minute senses and focuses on the more straightforward things: sight and sound. So when you look back, it really just feels like you actually experienced it
I love VR. It’s just a beyond amazing experience and just feels more in depth than 2D can ever do. I really hope it takes off and we get more impressive games, like a survival game and a stealth game similar to splinter cell and metal gear solid. I’d kill for that man
I honestly love video essays, even when it's about stuff I already know about. It was nice to see what kind of thought process and the little things I hadn't picked up on that someone else did. Thanks for making suck a wonderful video about vr (I don't own a headset but I will soon since I got a good setup now), and I hope everything goes well for you.
my favorite part of that new years in VRChat... was the servers crashing at exactly midnight, i was with a group of recently made friends, and we were all counting down, i was absolutely trashed drunk, and when i counted down to ONE, i closed my eyes and yelled HAPPY NEW YEAR... i opened my eyes... and got greeted to the steam VR VOID... i had never felt so alone... almost made my feel schizo
The best part is the steamvr compatibility. The amount of wrestling you have to do with other headsets like the quest to work with steam vr is crazy. Also 100000 steam points
Vrchat is one of those games that i play in bursts, I simply dont have as much time as i used to for it. But man, social vr is really on a different level. I'm glad my index helped me meet lots of cool people and create good memories. But after years of vr, it really still leaves me longing for more.
Not gonna lie, I saw a recommendation for this video and an blown away by the quality of your script, pacing, and editing... This feels like a big TH-cam channel vid
I have an Index, I got it like week 2(?) of it on sale. I only recently have to replace one of the base stations which actually was really easy. Just contacted valve support and they did a free RMA for it even though i was out of warranty. Other than that it's been great to me
Luck you. Bought mine used from a friend and after about 50 hours of use, the left controller is dead and the tether cable is degrading, so sparkly pixels and popping audio. Support told me neither is covered and it’s $129 for each. This has definitely left a sour taste in the quality control of the Index.
That high pitch whine around 0:50 though… as it slowly ramped up I initially thought it was my ear (happens sometimes for a few sec) until it became so loud it was obviously external of nature.
bro from such a small channel i was supprised from the super high quality content. your editing is top notch and feels like something from 10mil + channels. you really deserve more subs for content this good. Should be proud of your content, its amazing.
Switching from a reverb g2 to index now, I realize that everyone has such a different experience that some people hate a headset and some people love the headset. I’m always nervous picking up a new piece of technology especially seeing all the complaints around the index, but this has been my dream since getting the original reverb g1 in 2018, I’m ready to see what the best of VR has to offer
You can Get the Samsug Odyssey+ Has an AmOled & Same Resolution & Inside out Tracking that is pretty good & Can be found for $150 or less used! I have tried many other Headsets & it is Currently my favorite. It's Display is Absolutely Beautiful. Poor Man's Bigscreen Beyond!
Love the video bri. I completely agree with every point you made especially with you remembering vr as you were there and not playing a game or how like vr now is very much the 360 late 2000s/early 2010s vibe. I love it and I don't think many people realize how emersive vr really is. I'm glad I caught this vibe while it's Still in its early stages
Quality content right here, keep it up! We need more vr content. More vr content creates the means for a more expansive and hopefully increasingly great vr community
Had index since summer of 2020. Never had any issues that people talk about and only 2 weeks ago I got one of my controller to rarely give me "thumbstick drift". Absolute blast of a headset and always gets the job done to immerse me into any game
I was recently just thinking about upgrading from a Rift S. I had no idea that the index had quality issues that you mentioned. Definitely something to take into consideration. I also didn't know about the HP Reverb G2. That looks pretty solid.
Yeah the Index can definitely be a bit of a pain, but when it does work it's a great all around package. If you can spare the cash and don't mind things occasionally being janky, Index. Otherwise, Quest 2 or Reverb G2 are the way to go
I bought an exhaust fan for my Valve Index and it’s literally a game-changer! My initial thought was that it would be a cheap and low-quality product made by companies that wanted to make a quick buck. However, the huge amount of heat it actually manages to deflect is amazing. I can play high-intensity games like Lightsaber, Ragnarock, and Pavlov for so much longer without having to take a break and ruin the immersion because of sweating. Also my joystick got worn out and started drifting on my left controller after 15 months..I contacted support and they sent me a new one even though the insurance was no longer valid! . I love their customer support! Really High tier content my man! you deserve more subscribers! Subscribed :)
You earned a sub today brother. I ordered my kit last weekend after giving up a kidney! In actuality, I have a quest pro.. But, I want to properly experience full body without a bunch of issues. So, the index was a full send for me. Keep up the good work!
This was super helpful, thank you. I got a valve after having the quest 2 for some time and was wondering if I made the right decision. I feel much better after watching this! Thanks!
Some great intro music. That's all I got for talking about the video. Uh thanks for giving me excitement to own one of these. In 2 years or something like that.
Dude, what a great video. Informative, nicely edited, funny bits thrown in. And you were absolutely right about BoneWork and Alyx, every video talks about them, so nice skip. Keep making vids!
First video i saw, and.. im in love. The Quality, jokes, comedic timing, the flow of the script is all so good, that I would expected you to have like 500k subscribers at least. I subscribed, kissed that bell good night, and im here to stay. Keep the good stuff coming, I will be watching all of it.
My god. Kiss his ass enough in this comment or what? I always wonder what kind of personality is behind comments like this? You're an extreme extrovert right? Thats why all the gushing?
@@c.h.7580 I'm actually an introvert. And I don't know why you are so aggressiv and negativ... I like the video, think its a hidden gem and put my excitement and happiness into a comment, so the creator can see that and maybe be happy because of it. If you are angry at something, please solve the issue instead of letting your anger out on some positiv comment that doesn't hurt anyone.
The index was a great headset at release. But now it is over 3 years old and pretty outdated. Now It's just the kind of "If you find it at a good price second hand then sure" type of headset.
The Index is still king despite its advanced age. That says a lot more about stagnation of the VR industry than anything else. Several VR headsets have released since the Index, but most of them aren't even intended to be in its class. They're cheaper, more accessible, mobile, whatever. But there's been very little focus on making VR headsets which actually provide a better VR experience. The advantages of the Index become even more substantial if you're big into VRChat where you can get into full body tracking.
@@beanieteamie7435 pimax has a lot of issues and compromises, at least on all of their headsets that you can buy right now. They overpromise and underdeliver.
@@weepgamer I know lmao, I own one and my friend owns 3. The thing is, if you just disregard all their marketing bs and buy the hmd based on what it actually is or isn't, then the whole "overpromis underdeliver" thing is irrelevant. Do your research before buying stuff. As for all of the issues? The constant issues? I have them :) But despite that, I literally can't bring myself to use any other VR headset. If someone else made headsets with similar specs with better customer support, better quality control, better software etc. I would buy that instead in a heartbeat :) But no one is.
Boneworks, Bonelab, Half Life Alyx, Walking Dead Saints and Sinners, Blade and Sorcery, Beat Saber, VR Chat, Lone Echo, Battle Talent, Pavlov, Onward, Resident Evil Village VR, Hitman VR, No Man’s Sky, all seem pretty good to me.
Great review. love my Index, I’ve had it 3 years now, and use it regularly. Still not convinced anything objectively better has come along. Also..I actually had to check if my base stations were on for that moment of this video…
Being a heavy VR user with a valve index with 2000 hours in steam VR and 1600+ in VRchat, I have gone through 4 controllers, a base station, and one headset cable. Would I trade my Index for anything else? Not a chance in hell.
Great video, I am excited to get started with VR. My quest 2 arrives this week and I think I made the right choice at-least for value for money. But now I think I will watch the valve index for sales in the future when it comes time to upgrade.
I have a quest and man the update glitches are so annoying , I haven't played vrchat for a week no , ever since I updated it , I didn't even wanna update , so I would ignore it, until quest forced me to update , and that's when I got the wifi glitch error , and it won't let me connect to the wifi, I'm updating to htc , total waste of money , due to all the glitches
That Pavz story reminded me of when I was playing on Blood gulch and I was sneaking to red base through the caves on the side when I ran into an enemy who shot at me with his shotgun... and then realized that gun doesn't really work. I just stopped and talked about "yeah that gun is kinda glitchy right now, you have to basically break your arm to pump it." And a couple more guys from each of out teams just kinda wandered in and just joined the conversation. Then we eventually decided to take the party to the rest of the lobby. One of them started playing music through OVRtoolkit or something and we just ran into the middle of the map and started dancing and shooting into the air to the rhythm untill everyone joined in. We eventually had a mongoose race around the map which I barely won and as a prize got a free cap of the enemy flag. Still have a couple clips from that experience saved. Good times.
I can't overlook Fresnel lenses or low native resolution 4 years in. It WAS a good headset. It WAS worth $1000 when it launched. Emphasis on WAS. Valve needs to get their asses off their laurels. And hell, in my 30s, and the whine those base stations makes permeates EVERY FECKING ROOM it's so annoying. I wouldn't touch the index in 2022-23 for more than $500.
Really great video sir! Keep it up. Im a vr user almost everyday - games and mainly art but, I always wanted Index (Im quest 2 owner) bcs of the budget I couldnt afford it. So anyone who really wants to get some vr Oculus is so far after a year a great choice but index superior mainly in that audio quality and finger tracking as u said. Also I tried Index so I'm not just blindly typing this.
"The quality control issues arent common" The trigger of my left controller squeaks like a stained motel matress, also has joystick drift and to top it all off the headsets usb cable is trying to liberate itself from its insulation. thenks velv för quelitee prodükt
I upgraded from spending 1000 hours in a quest 2, to having an index, four base stations, and full body tracking. I love this headset. It may not be a Paimax 4k, but its easily the best investment ive made in terms of enjoying VR a whole lot more. This headset is going to be main way I experience VR for the coming years and I don't see that changing any time soon. Great video. I'm glad TH-cam finally recommended me something I was actually interested in watching.
Excellent video. My brother got us a quest 2 recently and I'm gonna take it slow for my next step in VR and thats with the vive cosmos elite kit then get the index controllers as a test to make sure for when I eventually get the index that it arrives etc. :)
The ability to switch refreshrate, in combination with SteamVR's framerate limiter is such a useful feature to hit stable framerates for all kinds of scenarios. Its the only headset that can be locked to 30 40 45 48 60 72 80 90 120 144 framerates!
I've been riding my quest for nearly two years now. It's gone from a cool gimic I strap to my face on its own when I'm not gaming on my pc, to a paper weight for a few solid months to something I strap on regularly connect to my pc and hookup up full body tracking and get lost in for hours . I love my quest but I know I'll need to upgrade to a proper pc headset soon perhaps not the index since it's a touch old by this point but something new will likely take its spot.
I'm using the Quest 3 with Virtual Desktop. I think since I'm in an apartment, the inside out tracking works pretty well. The lenses and screens are similar to what I remember my Index being. If they make a wireless Index 2 with QC issues fixed I may look to that if the Quest 3 breaks.
what keeps me from buying an index, is that its 4 years old and the price never adjusted. things like the good audio and the mic are no arguments for me, since iam sure, my headphones are better anyway and i wanna use those, since the floating design will have noise leak and my enviorment is never dead silent while my headphones are closed design.and yes sure, lighthouse still seems to be the best, and iam totaly willing to pay a thousand bucks, but when the quest3 headset is better in almost every way, besides fov, which isnt the top priority for me, and it comes with controllers and tracking thats 90% of what lighthouse would give me, i really feel that at least the index hmd itself, should be 250 bucks less nowadays. and since iam kinda sensetive to SDE and the index is notorious for that...and the second point: reports about durability of the controllers and baystations. sure i could have different experiences.. but hearing people they went through 5 controllers and 3 basestations ins 4 years is a lot of cost. sure, some maybe warranty replacements.. but after that?
My first ever VR headset was a valve index because I wasn't worried about the set up process and I already knew I had a beefy PC because I am a somewhat tech person.
I've had an Index for 3.5 years and just paired it with a 13900K & 4090 and WOW! It never looked so good and for some Sim titles I can finally run full Ultra settings which I've never been able to do before. I've got a Reverb G2, but even for Sim titles I find I don't want to use it. The Index tracking is superb and for running room scale games it is absolutely the best thing out there still. The Index Controllers are excellent and the headset at 144fps is truly amazing. I also set it up once 3.5 years ago when I first got it and have never had to touch or recalibrate a thing. It is just perfect and extremely reliable. I won't go into the wonkiness I've run into with the G2, but it has numerous deal breakers even with a FrankenFOV facial interface and OpenXR tweaks.
Nice video! I'm personally doing wireless PCVR over airlink with the refurbished Quest 2 I bought before they bumped up the price, alongside third party add-ons and stuff to use with it. I likely won't get an Index (despite some of the really nice features), but eventually I hope to somehow acquire a Deckard (you know, whenever that may possibly come out). Plz gimmie that valve-made wireless PCVR Index successor, Valve!
I've been using the Index since I got it for Half-Life Alyx, and I am on my 4th pair of Knuckles Controllers. Every single time I got new controllers was because of thumbstick issues. It's a real shame too because when the knuckles work right, they work like a dream; better than any other VR controllers on the market. I just wish they would actually do something with quality control regarding the thumbsticks. They really need some work, and I hope it's fixed with the next generation of knuckles.
I wish Valve would follow up the VR headset idea. My main complain is that pixel density doesn't seem to be high enough. I am still viewing a lot of screen-door effect. I wish they can have a next-gen headset that has totally unperceiveable screen-door (like some of those high resolution OLED headsets). Of course IPD detection and eye gesture sensing would be nice.
And the lenses. In some scenarios the godrays are really terrible. Especially bright text in front of dark background and cutscenes that "take you out of vr"
I honestly doubt it will compete with the Quest. I think it will be wireless, and it will probably support some form of standalone, but I don’t think it will be the same price range. I don’t expect Valve to make a budget VR device anytime soon.
@@JeppeBeier I think itl probably compete with the Quest pro in pricing, im just imagining index and deck price combined which might not be that bad of a deal depending on performance
I've got my first VR headset (the original Vive) in 2018 and since then I've always wanted to upgrade to the Index, but now I'm on a fence if I should wait for the next Valve headset that might or might not be coming this year. I'll probably just buy the Index headset alone as I already have the Vive tracking stations and the Index controllers.
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Man, this is high quality content. I love seeing new channels pop up that are as excited about VR as I am. And not only that, put a lot of work and love into said content. It's nice.
Literally summed up exactly what I was gonna say
No need to be rude
@@lateral1385 bro what
@@Max-sm6kg 😜
Probably my favorite vr moment of all time was when on pavlov, on Hageru, I was hiding inside a house with my group mates, sniping germans, physically wracking the bolt back, yelling at my teammates telling them where the enemies were, watching my comrades get slowly murdered all around me. There were tears, there were laughs, and there were dead headsets. And like you said, when I think about this, I dont think "I saw everyone around me die and then shot everyone" I think "I physically dodges bullets, hid behind bullets, made connections with people, and pulled back bolts."
My favorite moment was standing over a particularly obnoxious teammate and debating out loud the pros and cons of letting him get back up.
Cringe touch grass
@@Ace-hv7rf go outside more than you lmaooo
I love your point about how memories in VR feel like you’re actually there.
I think when you’re playing VR, obviously you’re always somewhat aware that you’re in VR. You can feel the headset on your head, your field of view is lower, you can feel controllers in your hands, etc. But when you revisit the memory, your mind kinda filters out the minute senses and focuses on the more straightforward things: sight and sound. So when you look back, it really just feels like you actually experienced it
I love VR. It’s just a beyond amazing experience and just feels more in depth than 2D can ever do. I really hope it takes off and we get more impressive games, like a survival game and a stealth game similar to splinter cell and metal gear solid. I’d kill for that man
I honestly love video essays, even when it's about stuff I already know about. It was nice to see what kind of thought process and the little things I hadn't picked up on that someone else did. Thanks for making suck a wonderful video about vr (I don't own a headset but I will soon since I got a good setup now), and I hope everything goes well for you.
my favorite part of that new years in VRChat... was the servers crashing at exactly midnight, i was with a group of recently made friends, and we were all counting down, i was absolutely trashed drunk, and when i counted down to ONE, i closed my eyes and yelled HAPPY NEW YEAR... i opened my eyes... and got greeted to the steam VR VOID... i had never felt so alone... almost made my feel schizo
Damnnnnn, that's fucked
lmao thats fucking insane
The best part is the steamvr compatibility. The amount of wrestling you have to do with other headsets like the quest to work with steam vr is crazy. Also 100000 steam points
Vrchat is one of those games that i play in bursts, I simply dont have as much time as i used to for it. But man, social vr is really on a different level. I'm glad my index helped me meet lots of cool people and create good memories. But after years of vr, it really still leaves me longing for more.
vrchat furry
@@myrukun What?
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@@myrukun yes indeed
God you need more subs this channel is CRITICALLY underrated
Not gonna lie, I saw a recommendation for this video and an blown away by the quality of your script, pacing, and editing... This feels like a big TH-cam channel vid
Just bought an index two weeks ago and I have absolutely loved using it.
Nice! My birthday is in 16 days and I hope that I'll get one, and I hope my experience is as good as yours is!
how long did it take to deliver i just ordered mine?
@@RR_jacobshave u gotten yours?
0:35 Yes! This is exactly how I feel everytime a tech channel reviews a new headset.
honestly I was kinda shocked seeing your sub count after finishing the video.... you deserve wayyyyy much more for that kind of content youre making
I was watching this video, and went to sub, thinking you already had like 20k, and saw 277, and I was blown away by the quality of the video!
I have an Index, I got it like week 2(?) of it on sale. I only recently have to replace one of the base stations which actually was really easy. Just contacted valve support and they did a free RMA for it even though i was out of warranty. Other than that it's been great to me
Luck you. Bought mine used from a friend and after about 50 hours of use, the left controller is dead and the tether cable is degrading, so sparkly pixels and popping audio. Support told me neither is covered and it’s $129 for each. This has definitely left a sour taste in the quality control of the Index.
Amazing video. Well-edited. Beautiful voice. Easy to follow. You deserve 100k subs. Please make more like these.
That high pitch whine around 0:50 though… as it slowly ramped up I initially thought it was my ear (happens sometimes for a few sec) until it became so loud it was obviously external of nature.
I love this video, and the channel. WHEN YOU'RE FAMOUS I GET TO SAY I WAS THE 670TH SUBSCRIBER!!!
bro from such a small channel i was supprised from the super high quality content. your editing is top notch and feels like something from 10mil + channels. you really deserve more subs for content this good. Should be proud of your content, its amazing.
Just got an index as my first VR. Got it used for $400 for full kit so it was a steal, I think. Having a lot of fun with it.
Yeah that's a steal and a half. Happy VRing man
Switching from a reverb g2 to index now, I realize that everyone has such a different experience that some people hate a headset and some people love the headset. I’m always nervous picking up a new piece of technology especially seeing all the complaints around the index, but this has been my dream since getting the original reverb g1 in 2018, I’m ready to see what the best of VR has to offer
Update? Did it meet your expectations?
You can Get the Samsug Odyssey+ Has an AmOled & Same Resolution & Inside out Tracking that is pretty good & Can be found for $150 or less used! I have tried many other Headsets & it is Currently my favorite. It's Display is Absolutely Beautiful. Poor Man's Bigscreen Beyond!
6:00 LOL everyone I know have had issues with them. I've had to do multiple RMAs for mine.
Dayum. Top quality video. Good luck on your YT journey!
You deserve so much more subscribers this video was sooo good
0:40 That post-explosion tinnitus sound effect to simulate getting bored/falling asleep was pretty damned unique. Not seen that before in a YT video.
okay. HOW TF DO YOU ONLY HAVE 72 SUBS? make it 73
Love the video bri. I completely agree with every point you made especially with you remembering vr as you were there and not playing a game or how like vr now is very much the 360 late 2000s/early 2010s vibe. I love it and I don't think many people realize how emersive vr really is. I'm glad I caught this vibe while it's Still in its early stages
Underrated video, you deserve much more recognition for a content like this
Oi the steam controller was one of the best controllers ever made!
Quality content right here, keep it up! We need more vr content. More vr content creates the means for a more expansive and hopefully increasingly great vr community
Just got an index at a crazy steal 2 weeks ago without knowing anything since the vive 1.0, this video was amazing to watch. Super high quality
And a destiny player?? Earned a sub bro 👊
How do you only have 470 subscribers?? This channel is amazing!
Had index since summer of 2020. Never had any issues that people talk about and only 2 weeks ago I got one of my controller to rarely give me "thumbstick drift". Absolute blast of a headset and always gets the job done to immerse me into any game
You got a subscriber. You got great content and it should be illegal for you to have this low amount of subscribers. Top notch. Humor and fun.
4:14 Hey the steam controller was cool. Steam machines on the other hand...
I was recently just thinking about upgrading from a Rift S. I had no idea that the index had quality issues that you mentioned. Definitely something to take into consideration. I also didn't know about the HP Reverb G2. That looks pretty solid.
Yeah the Index can definitely be a bit of a pain, but when it does work it's a great all around package. If you can spare the cash and don't mind things occasionally being janky, Index. Otherwise, Quest 2 or Reverb G2 are the way to go
@@MacrolithI just got the reverb 2 for 300$ I hope it’s great tbh
@@B3VR I got one, best display for the price. 4k babbbyyyy!!!!!!
@@Speedbolt74 hell yeah
@@B3VR Hope you love it!
Great video, was watching it then couldn't believe it wasn't over 10k views yet, keep up the quality content man.
ghod daym this man be producing some QUALITY CONTENT. Keep up the great work!
I bought an exhaust fan for my Valve Index and it’s literally a game-changer! My initial thought was that it would be a cheap and low-quality product made by companies that wanted to make a quick buck. However, the huge amount of heat it actually manages to deflect is amazing. I can play high-intensity games like Lightsaber, Ragnarock, and Pavlov for so much longer without having to take a break and ruin the immersion because of sweating.
Also my joystick got worn out and started drifting on my left controller after 15 months..I contacted support and they sent me a new one even though the insurance was no longer valid! . I love their customer support!
Really High tier content my man! you deserve more subscribers!
Subscribed :)
It's epic that the index is still up there with the best headset even though it's 3 years old.
sudden high quality vr related small youtuber jumpscare. subscribing instantly
subbed, really a great video with plenty of information for people that are looking to get into vr but also people that just got it, imo
Well, guess what’s one thing quest users have to deal with that index users don’t have to deal with game crashs in VRchat 😂 8:30
You earned a sub today brother. I ordered my kit last weekend after giving up a kidney! In actuality, I have a quest pro.. But, I want to properly experience full body without a bunch of issues. So, the index was a full send for me. Keep up the good work!
Your fake falling asleep made me laugh and I kept watching till the end 😂
Keep on making content this is really good
This is great! Just subscribed.
i just found this vid and its amazing! i really look forward to any more uploads in the future!
loved the vid
The battle block theatre music gives me alot of nostalgia.
This was super helpful, thank you. I got a valve after having the quest 2 for some time and was wondering if I made the right decision. I feel much better after watching this! Thanks!
Some great intro music. That's all I got for talking about the video. Uh thanks for giving me excitement to own one of these. In 2 years or something like that.
thanks for the recommendation on that headset, I was looking for something like that also amazing video.
14:17 Marcello looks and thinks that this is how you hold a pistol
Dude, what a great video. Informative, nicely edited, funny bits thrown in.
And you were absolutely right about BoneWork and Alyx, every video talks about them, so nice skip.
Keep making vids!
First video i saw, and.. im in love.
The Quality, jokes, comedic timing, the flow of the script is all so good, that I would expected you to have like 500k subscribers at least.
I subscribed, kissed that bell good night, and im here to stay. Keep the good stuff coming, I will be watching all of it.
My god. Kiss his ass enough in this comment or what? I always wonder what kind of personality is behind comments like this? You're an extreme extrovert right? Thats why all the gushing?
@@c.h.7580 I'm actually an introvert. And I don't know why you are so aggressiv and negativ... I like the video, think its a hidden gem and put my excitement and happiness into a comment, so the creator can see that and maybe be happy because of it.
If you are angry at something, please solve the issue instead of letting your anger out on some positiv comment that doesn't hurt anyone.
The index was a great headset at release. But now it is over 3 years old and pretty outdated. Now It's just the kind of "If you find it at a good price second hand then sure" type of headset.
The Index is still king despite its advanced age. That says a lot more about stagnation of the VR industry than anything else. Several VR headsets have released since the Index, but most of them aren't even intended to be in its class. They're cheaper, more accessible, mobile, whatever. But there's been very little focus on making VR headsets which actually provide a better VR experience.
The advantages of the Index become even more substantial if you're big into VRChat where you can get into full body tracking.
@@SargonDragon Pimax?
@@SargonDragon Pimax?
@@beanieteamie7435 pimax has a lot of issues and compromises, at least on all of their headsets that you can buy right now.
They overpromise and underdeliver.
@@weepgamer I know lmao, I own one and my friend owns 3.
The thing is, if you just disregard all their marketing bs and buy the hmd based on what it actually is or isn't, then the whole "overpromis underdeliver" thing is irrelevant.
Do your research before buying stuff.
As for all of the issues? The constant issues? I have them :)
But despite that, I literally can't bring myself to use any other VR headset.
If someone else made headsets with similar specs with better customer support, better quality control, better software etc. I would buy that instead in a heartbeat :)
But no one is.
been 3 years with my index kit, only changed 1 controller under warranty. Everything still works perfectly fine.
If only there were good VR games out there
Boneworks, Bonelab, Half Life Alyx, Walking Dead Saints and Sinners, Blade and Sorcery, Beat Saber, VR Chat, Lone Echo, Battle Talent, Pavlov, Onward, Resident Evil Village VR, Hitman VR, No Man’s Sky, all seem pretty good to me.
Great review. love my Index, I’ve had it 3 years now, and use it regularly. Still not convinced anything objectively better has come along.
Also..I actually had to check if my base stations were on for that moment of this video…
Oh, and I have a quest 2, that sits on the shelf until I’m traveling somewhere I want to introduce VR.
this video is something special
Being a heavy VR user with a valve index with 2000 hours in steam VR and 1600+ in VRchat, I have gone through 4 controllers, a base station, and one headset cable. Would I trade my Index for anything else? Not a chance in hell.
incredible video! thanks for sharing
Great video, I am excited to get started with VR. My quest 2 arrives this week and I think I made the right choice at-least for value for money. But now I think I will watch the valve index for sales in the future when it comes time to upgrade.
I have a quest and man the update glitches are so annoying , I haven't played vrchat for a week no , ever since I updated it , I didn't even wanna update , so I would ignore it, until quest forced me to update , and that's when I got the wifi glitch error , and it won't let me connect to the wifi, I'm updating to htc , total waste of money , due to all the glitches
That Pavz story reminded me of when I was playing on Blood gulch and I was sneaking to red base through the caves on the side when I ran into an enemy who shot at me with his shotgun... and then realized that gun doesn't really work. I just stopped and talked about "yeah that gun is kinda glitchy right now, you have to basically break your arm to pump it." And a couple more guys from each of out teams just kinda wandered in and just joined the conversation. Then we eventually decided to take the party to the rest of the lobby. One of them started playing music through OVRtoolkit or something and we just ran into the middle of the map and started dancing and shooting into the air to the rhythm untill everyone joined in. We eventually had a mongoose race around the map which I barely won and as a prize got a free cap of the enemy flag. Still have a couple clips from that experience saved. Good times.
This is the quality content TH-cam is lacking these days
awesome video bud. Really good music choices btw
"Don't talk about the steam controller"
Why not? Its amazing.
I can't overlook Fresnel lenses or low native resolution 4 years in. It WAS a good headset. It WAS worth $1000 when it launched.
Emphasis on WAS.
Valve needs to get their asses off their laurels.
And hell, in my 30s, and the whine those base stations makes permeates EVERY FECKING ROOM it's so annoying.
I wouldn't touch the index in 2022-23 for more than $500.
Awesome video! I love the humour and you mention solid points, keep going man!
Really great video sir! Keep it up. Im a vr user almost everyday - games and mainly art but, I always wanted Index (Im quest 2 owner) bcs of the budget I couldnt afford it. So anyone who really wants to get some vr Oculus is so far after a year a great choice but index superior mainly in that audio quality and finger tracking as u said. Also I tried Index so I'm not just blindly typing this.
"The quality control issues arent common"
The trigger of my left controller squeaks like a stained motel matress, also has joystick drift and to top it all off the headsets usb cable is trying to liberate itself from its insulation.
thenks velv för quelitee prodükt
I upgraded from spending 1000 hours in a quest 2, to having an index, four base stations, and full body tracking. I love this headset. It may not be a Paimax 4k, but its easily the best investment ive made in terms of enjoying VR a whole lot more. This headset is going to be main way I experience VR for the coming years and I don't see that changing any time soon.
Great video. I'm glad TH-cam finally recommended me something I was actually interested in watching.
so more base stations actually does something?
Excellent video. My brother got us a quest 2 recently and I'm gonna take it slow for my next step in VR and thats with the vive cosmos elite kit then get the index controllers as a test to make sure for when I eventually get the index that it arrives etc. :)
The ability to switch refreshrate, in combination with SteamVR's framerate limiter is such a useful feature to hit stable framerates for all kinds of scenarios.
Its the only headset that can be locked to 30 40 45 48 60 72 80 90 120 144 framerates!
I love Valve's products, can't wait for their next leaked/rumored Valve Deckard VR headset.
I've been riding my quest for nearly two years now. It's gone from a cool gimic I strap to my face on its own when I'm not gaming on my pc, to a paper weight for a few solid months to something I strap on regularly connect to my pc and hookup up full body tracking and get lost in for hours . I love my quest but I know I'll need to upgrade to a proper pc headset soon perhaps not the index since it's a touch old by this point but something new will likely take its spot.
I'm using the Quest 3 with Virtual Desktop. I think since I'm in an apartment, the inside out tracking works pretty well. The lenses and screens are similar to what I remember my Index being. If they make a wireless Index 2 with QC issues fixed I may look to that if the Quest 3 breaks.
300 subscribers!? I thought I was watching a channel with 75k+ subs, GET THIS MAN MORE SUBS.
Very good informative video I think you've pushed me over the edge to get one
The youtube algo has finally recommended me something good.
I'm still surprised Valve hasn't made standalone off ear headphones
what keeps me from buying an index, is that its 4 years old and the price never adjusted. things like the good audio and the mic are no arguments for me, since iam sure, my headphones are better anyway and i wanna use those, since the floating design will have noise leak and my enviorment is never dead silent while my headphones are closed design.and yes sure, lighthouse still seems to be the best, and iam totaly willing to pay a thousand bucks, but when the quest3 headset is better in almost every way, besides fov, which isnt the top priority for me, and it comes with controllers and tracking thats 90% of what lighthouse would give me, i really feel that at least the index hmd itself, should be 250 bucks less nowadays. and since iam kinda sensetive to SDE and the index is notorious for that...and the second point: reports about durability of the controllers and baystations. sure i could have different experiences.. but hearing people they went through 5 controllers and 3 basestations ins 4 years is a lot of cost. sure, some maybe warranty replacements.. but after that?
great comparison and very entertaining too 👍
My first ever VR headset was a valve index because I wasn't worried about the set up process and I already knew I had a beefy PC because I am a somewhat tech person.
Great video
Bruh I thought you would have had 1000’s of subscribers before looked for more videos. I guess just good quality.
I've had an Index for 3.5 years and just paired it with a 13900K & 4090 and WOW! It never looked so good and for some Sim titles I can finally run full Ultra settings which I've never been able to do before. I've got a Reverb G2, but even for Sim titles I find I don't want to use it. The Index tracking is superb and for running room scale games it is absolutely the best thing out there still. The Index Controllers are excellent and the headset at 144fps is truly amazing. I also set it up once 3.5 years ago when I first got it and have never had to touch or recalibrate a thing. It is just perfect and extremely reliable. I won't go into the wonkiness I've run into with the G2, but it has numerous deal breakers even with a FrankenFOV facial interface and OpenXR tweaks.
4:50 never thought I'd see a rexouium here
Nice video!
I'm personally doing wireless PCVR over airlink with the refurbished Quest 2 I bought before they bumped up the price, alongside third party add-ons and stuff to use with it. I likely won't get an Index (despite some of the really nice features), but eventually I hope to somehow acquire a Deckard (you know, whenever that may possibly come out). Plz gimmie that valve-made wireless PCVR Index successor, Valve!
Those quality control issues have to be common if they happened to me and my friends 2 - 3 times in a row. Especially broken base stations
Holy crap. Your the first person I can relate to that 2021 new years was the best one. I didn't spend it in vr, but I was just at my pc.
my index is coming in the mail rn so thanks for making this so i can obsess over it and hype myself up while i wait 🙏🙏🙏🙏
I've been using the Index since I got it for Half-Life Alyx, and I am on my 4th pair of Knuckles Controllers. Every single time I got new controllers was because of thumbstick issues. It's a real shame too because when the knuckles work right, they work like a dream; better than any other VR controllers on the market. I just wish they would actually do something with quality control regarding the thumbsticks. They really need some work, and I hope it's fixed with the next generation of knuckles.
I've read that clicking the thumbsticks causes drift do you click your thumbsticks?
I wish Valve would follow up the VR headset idea. My main complain is that pixel density doesn't seem to be high enough. I am still viewing a lot of screen-door effect. I wish they can have a next-gen headset that has totally unperceiveable screen-door (like some of those high resolution OLED headsets). Of course IPD detection and eye gesture sensing would be nice.
And the lenses. In some scenarios the godrays are really terrible. Especially bright text in front of dark background and cutscenes that "take you out of vr"
It's a very good time to get into VR.
The index speakers are amazing, I cant wait for Valve to combine the deck and index to compete with the quest
I honestly doubt it will compete with the Quest. I think it will be wireless, and it will probably support some form of standalone, but I don’t think it will be the same price range. I don’t expect Valve to make a budget VR device anytime soon.
@@JeppeBeier I think itl probably compete with the Quest pro in pricing, im just imagining index and deck price combined which might not be that bad of a deal depending on performance
I've got my first VR headset (the original Vive) in 2018 and since then I've always wanted to upgrade to the Index, but now I'm on a fence if I should wait for the next Valve headset that might or might not be coming this year. I'll probably just buy the Index headset alone as I already have the Vive tracking stations and the Index controllers.
Love the BattleBlock Theater music
4:51 hehe, EyeTrackVR has a mission to fix the lack of eye tracking ;)