Choosing a VR headset just got a lot harder
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
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I bought a varjo aero and now my wife is going to kill me
AYO FIRST ONE TO GET IT
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Someone gonna sleep on the couch tonight!
Did you already have the base stations and controllers?
i just preordered the big screen beyond
my problem over the years with the headsets was always: they are like a skilltree. you have 7 talents to choose from, and each talent has 10 points to max out, but you only have 30 points to spend on all the 7 trees. so there is no perfect build. but then there comes a headset, that can spend 34 in its trees, improves in one talent compared to others very much, yet is still mediocre at all the others, but its on a 400 buck premium because of that.
I need my golden goose headset haha
wouldnt call it a goldon goose. its like complaining about lcd monitors in 2002 not beeing as good as the ones we have today. no monitor today is a golden goose, but even cheap ones are 5x better in everything, compared to 500dollar displays from 2002 @@BonelessVR
like the 8K headset 💀
the fact that this video is getting very decent views shows how much potential this channel has broski, keep going
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SIMULATED POV! GENIUS! For real, why don't those other VR reviewers show us what it REALLY looks like like you did? THANK YOU!
AYE I always get annoyed with through the lens footage because it's never accurate. I figured it would be helpful! It sucks that I couldn't get the Aero simulated well but people would have to be watching on some crazy high res monitors to really get an idea of the clarity.
as someone whos interested in getting into vr your simulated views were a great way to feel the difference. Thanks a TON for doing that
I'm glad it was helpful! Thank you!
I bought a varjo aero and now my knee has an arrow because of my wife
wife has arrow in knee, instructions unclear
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This was a very solid review, bruh. Complete transparency and honesty on your end! This headset sounds like it's a pretty good starter headset for PCVR users! 😎
So good that I will be giving it away because I have too god damn many headsets haha
I really love using it, I don't want to give it away but why do I need it when I have an Aero and a Quest 2 and A pro 2 and blah blah
It's definitely a solid choice, and a note on the $550 MSRP, they usually have deals that run it down to $470ish. Still think it's worth saving the money and getting a lightly used Quest 2 with a new facial interface and a nice cleaning
Boneless: DPVR has no play
Also Boneless: Immediately flips the hinge 90 degrees XD
great video man, keep up the good work!
Ahah thank you for watching homie
thank you, i would've never knew that the varjo price went down without you
bro there is no way u wanted to benchmark the vr headset on kanojo vr 💀(thevrhubs second channel)
As a proud Vive Eye Pro owner I'll say I shouldn't've payed what I did and I've yet to get eye tracking to work properly. I blame the model I use. Do I regret buying a full body kit? No. Is it worth the money I spent? No. I don't use it nearly enough. Would I do the months of saving again? Yes.
And I guess I'll just throw this on the end, in an edit. You did ask.
I bought a Varjo Aero and now my wife is going to kill me.
I have such a love hate relationship with Vive at this point haha
Vive pro 2 was such a down turn moment for them and I hate to say it
Thank you for watching and I hope to see you around more!
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I am holding out against hope (read: severe copium) that the Deckard has SLAM tracking, pancake lenses, wide FOV compared to the Quest 2 (my current headset) and is even half way to the size of a Bigscreen Beyond!
I really dont want to get in to the Lighthouse ecosystem (in fact my partner has straight up said they don't want me to) because we rent together in shared accommodation with other people so very little space to ourselves and our bedroom is shared living space between the two of us and also my VR space which is honestly not ideal.
I sleep pretty often in VRC because of having friends on the other side of the world so super late night movie sessions where I fall asleep (I am ahead of most of them in timezone) and then get a 'good morning sleepy head' are pretty common and that is why the Beyond would be my ideal headset apart from the FOV and it needing base stations (and then base station tracked controllers..). So size and comfort for sleep are another huge consideration for me but the lack of SLAM/inside out tracking is a huge killer for me.
I really want to upgrade my headset. My Quest 2 has been amazing for the price. But being an almost daily VRC user with FBT and needing comfort.. I can see all the flaws with it for my use case and I have just... outgrown it as a VRC degen now and need something more to my needs but currently there isnt anything for me.
I am super excited to see what comes out this year.
Great video as usual!!
YOOOOOOOOO deckard is going to be insane. Idk if It can possibly manage to be the size of a Beyond but Valve is known to pull some crazy stuff.
Deckard is pretty much confirmed right now to be standalone capable with internal tracking based on datamines, hopefully with the option for lighthouse but I can't find any confirmation on that.
If you're a VRC sleeper, have you tried out OyasumiVR yet? It's a plugin that gives you a bunch of features in VRC (not violating EAC) to make sleeping more comfortable, give it a try! I will be this weekend!
Quest 2 is still such a solid choice but I could see easily getting tired of it at this point.
I do have a friend who uses a quest pro with Haritora, after modifying the settings for the Haritora, he has managed to get such accurate tracking that I couldn't tell it wasn't base stations. Worth looking into!
Well that is so good to hear, I had somehow missed all of that info as I stopped seeing Deckard content on my recommended videos lol. But if it IS at least standalone tracked and then pancakes and just smaller than my Quest 2 (Bigscreen have really set the bar for what is possible with a PCVR headset) then I think that is definitely something I am interested in!
Thank you for the info on OyasumiVR tho! I actually had not heard of this before so will definitely look in to it!
I have followed Haritora on and off for a while but once I settled on SlimeVR I think I just went all in down the rabbithole there and have been loving how much it has changed since I started using my DIY trackers! I might go check out how much it has changed!@@BonelessVR
Damn, this video has nice timing, posted 4 days ago, just when im looking for vr headset for my pc that i just got, bruh i will probably eat water soup made of WATER for next month, again 😂...
I'm fighting the urge to not get a quest 3 lmao, too many great headsets coming to the market
The fuck you mean the Aero is now 1k$, that's insane
idk if you owned an index but im actually curious about why you didnt include it seeing as people say its still the best headset for the price (integration, displays, microphones, headphones, controllers, base stations)
What word am I supposed to type now after sticking till the end? I was waiting for it, smh
I bought an Aero and now my wife is going to kill me
I bought an Aero and now my wife is going to kill me
my vive controllers recently broke twice. I should however mention that I HAVE bludgeoned multiple walls in my house to death
What unmanageable power do you have that you are capable of killing a Vive Wand? You're making me scared
I want the Zevo Toys HMD that Joan Cusack used to go white water rafting.
THANK YOU for talking about the Varjo Aero not supporting AMD cards. It's a stupid artificial roadblock that Varjo added because they're too lazy to use anything but CUDA for their upscaling. It's important to note this because this is an Varjo issue and not an AMD issue. Varjo could probably port their code to ROCm pretty easily, but they likely do not care.
Future video deep diving into the Aero and more specifically the lack of updates from the dev team inbound
I can't tell if they don't push updates because they do a ton of testing or because they are lazy but at the end of the day we end up not getting and updates. Foveated rendering on VRChat and many other games also require a community patch that uses Pimax's libraries out of all things lmao
There is a patch to fix the red shift/chromatic aberration that allows you to tweak a setting, it's been out for a while but Varjo just won't add it directly into Varjo Base so that you can just use a slider to fix the issue with red shift
Just some really goofy things that maybe Varjo is getting too much slack for
Varjo Aero-discounted because it's discontinued. Now you can get the Varjo XR-4, for a mere €6,000.
I have a quest 2 because my computer doesn't have a great gpu, and it feels like a lot of work to upgrade it on top of getting a new headset.
I don't think I'll easily change to a different one because I don't want to repurchase software I bought from the quest store, on top of the upgrade and the headset itself.
Quest 3 is shaping up to be a great upgrade even without changing your PC hardware.
Quest 2, even with all of the options I have for other headsets, I will always love using. It's just so solid.
@BonelessVR I'm excited for quest 3.
Not only is it quite the upgrade, but I can lend my quest 2 to my family and watch movies on apps like BigScreen as if we still live in the same house.
Pro tip: it’s a lot easier to choose when you’re broke
Facts. Quest 2 slaps, Vive slaps, the best VR headset to get is the one that you can afford. I'll never be someone who pricewalls VR, giving away a headset every chance I get. More details soon.
That E4 reminds me of the Lenovo Explorer, my first headset, it was inside out, wired to PC, very light and you could flip it up too. Very comfortable and it was 150€ on the black friday I bought it.
That's a helluva deal
About 2 years from now, Meta will likely have a Quest Pro 2 available. And since Virtual Desktop just announced their newest beta added face tracking and AV1 10-Bit encoding it will be a darn attractive headset. Definitely going to save up to buy it.
It's worth the wait, even for the Quest 3. I didn't want to get into speculation in the video but I'm free to do it in the comments so:
Save your money and wait because shit is about to get wild
@@BonelessVRI had a friend who said the same thing for 5 years now, "save your money and wait". I'm done waiting!
@@xlrbossshortsquest 3 comes out October 10 come on now
@xlrbossshorts I bought bearly all early headsets since dk2 got burned out, now grabbing quest 3 after skipping stuff since rift s. Waiting for the shipment to show up...hopefully it was worth it
quest 2 and 3 are great for people who don't want to buy a vr computer or just play simple games on a laptop or are in school and cant afford a headset and a PC to run the headset because the quest 2 and 3 are standalone its perfect for new vr players and can be used with a PC later on anyways with virtual desktop or the built in method
Quest 2 and 3 are my biggest recommendations right now. Quest 2's are so so so cheap barely used these days and the Quest 3 is just such a great improvement
Honestly enjoyed the review of the sponsor. Usually really critical of youtubers and the bias around sponsor products when making lists like this but the balance of pros and cons made me feel like you take the reviewer side of it seriously- great vid man good job!
I really appreciate it! The next video I have planned is an honest opinion on the Aero. There's just a lot of things that I feel Varjo get's cut a lot of slack for, like how the head strap likes to rip out hair sometimes and now two people in my circle bought them new and they both had very different but very annoying issues setting them up. I'm always open to pointers and critiques.
Imma keep the honesty coming! When DPVR originally sent me their request, I showed everyone in the VC their emails and promo material, I honestly though the thing was going to be a piece of hot Chinese garbage. Like I almost didn't even want to participate. But it was a pleasant surprise with how nice everything felt with it. It's a shame that the Quest 3 is going to set a new standard for that entire price range, this headset would've been a decent deal in a world without $1000 Aero's and the Quest 3 being such a great deal
@@BonelessVR I was looking into the aero recently so I will absolutely watch it! And once again love the honesty. I was surprised by the DPVR headset and how well it kept up with the rest of them. Honestly the flip up ability it has is such a little thing but I feel like that’s so useful. Kinda something id like to see other headsets give some props to, even with the push for passthrough😅 Excited to see your future videos bro I’ll absolutely keep up!
nice vid bro, btw cut your nails bro
I’m a guitar player, I need those lol
ait bro@@BonelessVR
I must be crazy, i have an original quest 2 from november of 2020, i havent touched a single thing on it. Yes it still has the pre recall faceplate thingy, used to be a bit irritating but i've used it for so long i think my skin oils have made it softer. The headband isnt the best and needs adjusment every now and then.. my lenses are a bit scratched because the glasses spacer isnt big enough, the battery lasts about 45 minutes now on a full charge (have to use a 10,000mah battery pack in my pocket to make it playable for extended periods of time..) and my left stick wants to send me to the moon every time it gets powered on. Best purchase ive ever made 10/10 product.
Valve Index has been great.
as a proud user of the vive pro 2 i see your complaint about it getting hot quick but other than that i love it
Mine has given me countless software issues after nearly 2 years of perfect operation. Everything on my end is perfect, dedicated usb card, updated everything, tried every beta version of Vive Console, every version of SteamVR, every release of my computers BIOS to make sure it wasn't a bios issue
I even went as far as building an entire new pc, going from a Ryzen 7 5800x to an i9 12900k, new platform entirely
Vive also sent be a brand new in the box Pro 2 to 'fix' it, still getting the same problem
Pro 2 also sometimes thinks that it's a Cosmos, not a cosmos elite, just a cosmos, the inside out tracked cosmos haha
Watch my 'headset from hell' video if you ever run into issues with yours, I've already fixed issues for quite a few people and their Pro 2's haha
@@BonelessVR I’ve been using mine for a month and it’s been working great, it was a pain to setup but other than that I haven’t encountered any issues
I’ll be sure to check your video if anything comes up tho
I recently pre-ordered the Beyond and I'm really looking forward to it. Was a toss-up between that, and the Aero, but I decided on the Beyond because of comfort (Index hurts my head, too heavy and bulky), and the built in mic (which is extremely good!). I've heard basically everyone rave about it and though it obviously has downsides, as every headset does, the benefits of the comfortability far outweighs it for most it seems.
Very happy to hear from people who have the Beyond! It's an exciting headset but dang the market is catching up quick!
@@BonelessVR Also I really like your videos! Recently discovered you and you kept popping up in my recommended, I like the topics you cover, definitely will subscribe and keep an eye out for future uploads! Hope you get some traction to on this platform, you deserve it
Thank you homie! I'll always do my best, thank you for the subscription!
I got the Big screen beyond and excited more than anything for that,also whats the VRC world at 2:23?
Super excited to see the beyond! World is あの日の静かな夜 -With a beautiful starry sky-
Joycon stick is good, you can easily replace it with hall effect.
Couldn't open up the controllers to confirm because this is a giveaway headset, but that thought did cross my mind
I’m still using a oculus rift cv1 plays vr chat perfectly
Absolute UNIT. Wish I owned a CV1 personally
I'm excited to see the Visor one. I'm tempted to pre-order, but I'll likely wait for reviews… but it feels like the next couple years will be really big.
God I hate people who edit without periods
me too
@@BonelessVR so does your English teacher
And yes we are talking about editing, not sentence structure if you were making a joke
Loving the amazing content.
Thank you for taking the time for these reviews and explaining some of the more technical aspects for headsets.
Wish I could've gone more in depth but I didn't want to end up with a 30 minute long video haha.
Maybe soon I'll do a video talking just about VR myths and basic setup tips to help people get a long. Got too many people who always ask questions, I really wish all of this stuff was easier to use for everyone!
Compression just doesn't bother me lol. I rarely notice it with Virtual Desktop, and for me, it's worth it for wireless pcvr.
Also, I bought a Varjo Aero and now my wife is gonna kill me.
I actually did get to try a Varjo Aero. I visited that Sandbox VR place and they were using them. I really liked the clarity. So far I've tried Quest 2, Varjo Aero, Quest 1, Oculus Go, Index, and Vive Pro 2. I'd personally continue to use my Quest 2 for normal use since I don't play extremely often.
Yo sandbox has some locations around me and I really want to go but they won't just let me rent an experience alone haha
After optimizing with the debug settings, the compression is so much more minimal. Honestly seeing how good the Quest 2 can be if Meta would just put some more effort into their link software, it makes me feel like a bit of a fool for getting an Aero. Quest 2 is still 100% perfect for like 99% of people
i bought a varjo aero and now my wife is going to kill me
AYO ME TOO! Thank you for watching hehe
Did you skip Pico4 on purpose? Because that is another headset that is pretty populair in EU. It's better than Q2 in comfort and visuals. Especially if you don't care about Oculus/Meta games.
Besides, wired versus full movement freedom, which one do you prefer?
If you move a lot or dance with crazy moves, i bet full movement freedom is first choice, because there is no cable problem anymore.
I do it most time wireless, and i can tell you will happy about it and accept some compression.
How many VR gamers are sad about broken cable, especially Index and Vive users? They're not cheap or often sold out. And that is really nightmare.
He didn’t review it cause those are the headsets he had available when he did the video
Fair point but:
I don't own or use a Pico 4 and refuse to speak on it with authority on my channel
same with the Index
I'm really happy to see how many people love their Pico products and if one comes up for the right price lightly used I probably will get my hands on one eventually, but for now, I think this comparison shows a good range.
@@BonelessVR That is fine what you speak, it's only kinda one-side review based on what you have if you know there are more headsets around.
If i review something, i will add the point in my review i don't own other headsets but will add them as another options because they're popular in EU or USA or Asia area. Just give viewers better room to make choices to be fair. :)
Have fun with VR!
@@mrdummy_nl "WhY nO QuEsT 3"
"WhY No PiCo"
"WhY nO BigScrEeN"
"WhY nO InDeX"
I understand your point, but since I do not have personal experience with those headsets I will not cover them.
Impressive content Sir!
I bought a varjo aero and now my wife is going to kill me
AYE thank you for watching homie!
I bought a varjo aero and now my wife is going to kill me
NO WAY ME TOO! Thank you for watching ;)
Think im just going to deal with quest 2 pcvr compression until valves new vr headset project drops
Varjo Aero is still extremely expensive considering the fact that you still need to buy about $1000 worth of base stations and controllers. So no, it didn't really get harder.
Pico 5's specs have been leaked. If true and if the screens have some nice contrast this time around, this will probably end up being the main choice for PC VR in general.
I don't think Varjos target audience is people who are brand new to VR. The people buying them likely already have index controllers and base stations.
If buying brand new, it would come out to around $1650 total for an Aero, 2 2.0 basestations, and a pair of index controllers.
I am so excited for newest Picos! I cant wait to see what the Pico 5 Max or whatever the heck is!
What if you had to choose between fresnel and display port vs pancake and usb with better resolution?
Quest 3 looks to have the best lenses and res for it's price range. Yet it has no DP and it sounds like people really hate compression over usb/wifi.
Soooo I was going to cover the Quest 3 a bit but the most important thing has yet to be confirmed. There's a chance that they are going to be using a new form of compression, but I really don't like to venture into speculation in videos too much. Even if it doesn't use a better compression technique, the Quest 3 will be a great choice for the price. Those lenses are super nice.
so personally i think the pico 4 is defenetly really good for pcvr (especially for that price, i got mine for 250 eUrO, im german, thanks)
Have you tried using a good link cable on the quest headsets and change bitrate in oculus debug tool to 960mbps and use h264?
I use a Kuject cable, have modified settings, but it was important in this video to talk about the out of box experience rather than trying to help competitors along. I could've changed settings to make the E4's colors better, make the sound better, etc, but I'd prefer out of the box experiences rather than 'hey if you put extra time into this it'll be better.'
Still though, changing stuff in the debug menu is worth it. Massive, massive difference. On the rare occasion that I use the Quest 2, I do use modified settings, but again, out of the box experience is what's important here
@@BonelessVR Absolutely, that makes sense.
first
I see you
in Poland u can still buy vivr pro eye 6419zł + 650zł tracker what translate to 1645usd and i paid this much for it few montchs ago , also have quest 2 and full index kit , and 2x oculus cv1, and bhaptic x40 vest and tactos for arms , and full body ... and 3 other pcs for vr when my real friends or boyfriend are with me ... (send help)
Jesus I need to see this
th-cam.com/video/F-4YmqikgLQ/w-d-xo.html@@BonelessVR old movie , quest 2 is rapleced by index and index by vive pro eye , laptop is replaced with gamming pc and main gaming pc have beter parts inside + better pc speakers. quest 2 and gamming laptop is in other room, cv1 are not used , so i can do 3 people in vr same time , i can use another laptops what have bare minimum spec for cv1 but.. its not worth, and to be honest i dont use it that much cuz i work, but it was worth evry penny belive me , vrc get so much better if i join vrc without haptic i feel naked , rly like something missing, also used haptic in pavlov or half life alyx... it was intense , not pain but overall immersion experienced fear in different way , when i took shotgun blast to the chest i needed to pause the game and rest a liitle cuz i almost got heart attack (joke but this was intense) if u ever wil have chance to test it (for longer then 2-3 hours) do it , if u use it for few days it will be hard to go back without it.
DPVR has history with shady advertising. A flight sim TH-camr did a review on the E4, and it was very clear that DPVR employees in the comments (pretending not to be employees) gave positive reviews on it.
That isn't a company people should be supporting.
If there's anything like that in my comments I'll delete it, ezpz. Thank you for giving me a heads up though!
@@BonelessVR the youtuber called them out in the comment. They probably won't be doing it again. Atleast not so blatantly
I'd still probably buy them over meta tbh. Facebook is trying to make a monopoly of the vr market and they're succeeding
@@roboteen the only reason Meta is so popular is because they are doing really well at a fair price. They wouldn't build a monopoly if literally any other company stepped in, and made a decent headset at 499.
Supporting a company that does both false advertising, and makes fake reviews (which I'm pretty sure would even be illegal in some countries). This is not saying meta is a good company
Congrats for the sponsorship! I'm really happy for ya! Great video once again, I really really appreciate your honesty when reviewing this stuff despite the sponsorship 😆👍
Oh and also- maybe it's just me, but this is the first time I've seen your IRL face, and you _Somehow_ looks/feels *A LOT* like your VR Chat Avatar, I can't put my finger on it but in terms of the vibes and the overall aura it really do feels like I'm looking at the same person whenever you switch the POV, and I can't say this to every VR youtubers out there, so that's definitely interesting Haha (≧▽≦) (for example ThrillSeeker is also one of the VR content creators that have the same overall vibe between IRL and his female avatar)
Thrills avatar is so sick. I'm glad my vibes match ahah. I had someone in a previous video accuse me of 'hopping on the cute train' to try and get views or smth. My brother in christ, I use the avatar because It's funny and photoscanning myself into VRC would be so cursed lmao
I appreciate your support, thank you for watching homie
I bought a Varjo Aero and now my wife is going to kill me.
Or at least she would if I had a wife. 😂 But on a serious note, I agree with some of the other comments, the simulated view was a great addition. As someone who's running the OG brick Vive, seeing what the options look like in terms of visual quality upgrades is insane. Such a difference!
Oh I would kill to be you. The jump from og vive to pro 2 was insane to me, if only their software wasn't held together by hopes and dreams lmao
When you do upgrade, you're in for a treat
im getting an index soon and i hope that valve releases the deckard 1 day after i ordered it
noooo its gonna release on Wednesday
csgo is releasing today not the deckard@@acakeshapedlikeatrainonatable
You hear shelby cobra and instantly know it´s that b**** of a car that just wont let itself be controlled because you played Gran Tourismo 4: A shit thats gonna be a struggle.
The mod is so well done, especially for free. I just wish It would let me put modern tires on haha. Just saw footage of a Factory Five Cobra wrecking irl just like me in VR, it's too god dang real. AC just keeps blowing my mind year after year.
Thank you a lot for helping choose my headset, I've been struggling with all of the overwhelming choices but the E4 looks like it's the one for me, so thanks a bunch!
Might wanna get your hands on a Quest 3 homie :3
The only reason I didn't cover it in this video was because there weren't any confirmations direct from meta about it but I'm fighting the urge to not buy one haha
@@BonelessVR Oh okay! I had no clue that it was coming out so soon, thank you! ^^
@@BonelessVR Sorry but I forgot to ask, do you think the elite strap is a worthy purchase? :>
On paper it would. For elite + battery, Personally i'm gonna wait first till I try the headset and see afterwards. Thirdparty accessories will come out sooner than later and they'll be cheaper so that's another thing to consider
@@AlbireoIdoneus Oh okay, thank you!
I thought this was a hot girl youtuber i been tricked 😢 (honestly good video those)
some dude accused me of 'hiding behind the avatar' before but if you watch my most hated video, VR games kinda suck, I'm wide out in the open GOD DANG the internet sucks
DPVR looking fine rn
I jumped into vr when pico4 released. And I don’t not regretting waiting for a better option then Quest2.
Okay Pico 4 and Pico 4 pro I need to try. I would get my hands on one but it's really rare that I do a headset comparison like this and I already have way too many headsets haha
I hear ya xD Love the wireless, and prefer it over an index, and can't compare it with a quest 2 for pcvr ;) Dance vrchat only thing I do slimeVR 10 point , so no wires
@@Snitchie ACTUALLY??? add me up on VRChat, I wanna see this slime dancing!
_boneless_
If you have any tips for setting up the slimes for more accurate tracking let me know! Have a few people in the community learning how to use them properly :)
@@BonelessVR Pico 5 specs just leaked. Probably best to wait for a Pico 5 at this point. Especially the Max version has some insane specs. Uses XR2 Gen 2, 3840x3840 resolution per eye, has a display port for those who care and controllers don't have rings anymore. Only thing we don't know yet is the contrast & brightness level for the lenses. But everything else basically takes the Pico 4 and turns it up a notch. For PC VR, Quest 3 likely won't compare.
@@thenonexistinghero Dude what. As someone who just explicitly loves VR, this is getting wild. I love it, thank you for the heads up!
standalone, quest. doesn’t matter what even if a pico headset releases with better specs, purely because of software
Wake up new boneless vid
Hi, so having a AMD GPU and CPU, what headset would you recommend for PCVR? I'm using the Pico 4 right now but feels like it is not as clear as advertised or other people say it is.
I've tried all sorts of troubleshooting but gameplay always seems alot blurrier than the sharp and crisp UI elements of the native Pico apps.
Have you experimented with changing any of the compression settings? It'll never be as crisp, but it can be better!
I just want entry budget vr for games, nothing more. What should i get?
Disappointing that Varjo just doesn't work with AMD Gpus. I just bought my first PC and it has an AMD Gpu which perfectly suits my needs and budget.
That means when I do have the money for a high end headset, I better also have the money for Nvidia if I go for the Varjo.
I just want to say... if you use trackers, then you should never use quest 2. Period.
The strong part about Quest 2 is able to play wireless (even PCVR), without stations and limitations, you could move around the whole house if you need it and want it, go to hotels and play there in travels, etc.
If you have Stations, why bother dealing with the inside out tracking when stations track better and you have them?
You already bought Stations and trackers so is not a money problem
If you use Quest 2 (or 3 now) and use trackers with Stations you are wasting money, period.
Is like mixing the worst of the insideout tracking without his benefits and mixing it with poor station tracking without his benefits (because you continue to use quest controllers).
So the drifting part of the video (about trackers)... yeah, if that happens to you, get ur priorities right before buying next time
ive got the cheapest one and its good and its even better with steam vr games
PLEASE tell me if Varjo Aero has screendoor efect? People used to tell me Reveb G2 doesnt. I got one and it does! It is pixelated screen!!
Does AERO realy has no screendoor or doest it have one?!
Absolutely zero screendoor effect on Aero, the raw resolution of the screens is absolutely insane even compared to the beyond.
Dear lord
and the PICO 4?????
Great Vid as always ;D
Thank you so much hehe
add chapters dude
wish i saw this video BEFORE i bought a vive pro 2 lmao
The game you showed in the first clip looks cool. What is the name?
I used Asseto Corsa, VRChat, Vertigo 2, H3VR, and Kayak VR Mirage
I want to keep playing VR but it's just... Hard. I had no problems until I tried to start playing VRC from my PC to my Quest 2, and now everything's just kinda fucked. Nothing I do seems to fix the issue and I've done a few dozen "fixes" now with zero luck. At best, the "fixes" didn't make the situation worse somehow. I don't understand why there's so many issues with AMD GPUs and VR. It just makes no sense whatsoever :(
It's a result of nvidia being unfriendly to the industry, they've cornered everything that they can to force industry professionals to use nvidia hardware otherwise suffer at being at a software disadvantage. I'm curious if I could try to fix it, no promises though. Join the discord and DM me
„The flip-up feature is something i need to see more of” Bro, 4-5 WMR Headset used it in 2018 and earlier. It sure is nice, but after some time the hinge become so loose that the front part can’t stay on your face when crouching. It’s super annoying.
True, hinges do wear over time and RIP WMR
I've had my vive 1 since 2017.
It's done more damage to me that I have ever managed to do to it.
I've bashed the controllers into walls on accident and they were unaffected.
I've hit the wall face first and dropped my headset accidentally. NOTHING
That thing is a tank strapped to your face.
I so desperately wish that youtube would let me pin two comments lmao. Yours is my favorite so far, I had to sc it and post it in the discord haha
The Quest 3 with PC (Virtual Desktop) I should run with less compression compared to quest two
Was waiting for confirmation before I said anything on the channel about Quest 3 and YES THANK GOD
AV1 will be supported on Quest 3, aka unnoticeable compression! It's beautiful!
You blow compression way out of proportion. Almost spat my coffee out when you said " the vast majority of you are playing VR Chat". No man, just no lol
as if I don't look at my own audience analytics bruh im dead
Because we all want to see an anime girl flipping us off in our recommended.
heaven is real
The E4 honestly just looks and sounds like the Rift S just with a worse headphone jack position and and a flip up feature. The rift s got far too much hate for what it deserved.
Rift S is a W
Not sure if it’s worth it because my pc is a potato
"an original vive to remember where we came from" Where are all the vr box kits then?, we all know thats the true first vr headset.
also I bought a wife and now a varjo aero is going to kill me
Lemme get a uhhhhh google cardboard
Actually I have a video specifically about the Aero on the horizon and I bring out something much MUCH older than the old box kits, like a decade old haha, I had to go to an antique store
AND THANK YOU FOR WATCHING AHHHHHHH
"If none of these headsets tickle your fancy it might be best to wait"
Problem is I like almost all of them but don't wanna buy an Aero just to have the Valve Deckard or whatever come out a few months later for preorder lol. I'll probably look into getting a base station tracked rig soon, I have a Quest 2 and it's definitely not my fav due to clarity being ehhhhh
I 100% expect the Aero to age very quickly and poorly within the next year or two
Been using the HTC Vive for the past few years, think it's time to upgrade.
Spoiler: anything that you get will feel like a massive improvement haha
I'm genuinely excited for you, let me know what you end up getting!
so if all i want to do is play beat saber and vrchat at the best way possible what do you recommend?
4:05. PSVR 2 does have eye tracking, not sure about full face tracking though.
Indeed, can't wait for iVRy to get done with their PC support for it!
12:17 the sounds of a neck breaking
Hey, can you please tell me what racing game you are playing in this video? It has Gran Turismo ADs in it, but arent you running it on PC?
This was a nice quality review.
I know USA doesn't have such an easy access to the pico4 headset but I think this is still the best bang for your buck in regards to PCVR.
Oh thank god, not another "why didn't you include Pico" comment.
Everyone in my community who has a Pico 4 or Pico 4 Pro absolutely loves them. I'm so tempted to get one
The only reason that Quest 2 got lightly used is the damn battery lol
Kuject cable BABYYYYYYYYYY
Yeah battery life without a charging cable sucks but a charging cable is cheap cheap.
Would use it more if I didn't have the Aero and all
Ik one thing the dp headset is not worth 550 at that point i might as well get a psvr 2 lol
ehhhhh psvr2 is a bit of a hit and miss in a lot of ways. The price is really good, but the fact that all of their software is locked down and It's going to be a bit before we get community PC compatibility, plus it still uses fresnel lenses. It's just kind of mid. The E4 or even a $150 hardly used Quest 2 will get you so much more for your money
Maybe i just dont see the compression or maybe you are setting the quest 2 wrong, i made some adjustments to the data transfer and the resolution and i use a cable link, the image looks better than you can get running games directly from the quest 2. I use cable because when using the wifi, even though it is 5Ghz, i could definitely see some compression and the game looked like a youtube video
I use a Kuject cable the rare chances that I do use the Quest 2, the default link settings are so so so bad. I don't use the default settings personally, but when I was comparing these headsets I wanted to talk about an out of the box experience. I could've EQ'd the built in speakers of the E4 or bumped up the saturation on the screens to help it along, but I chose to just do an out of the box experience for the average user.
Gotta say, with modified link settings in the debug menu, the compression is so minimal now. Really do love the Quest 2.
@@BonelessVR now i have to agree, the default settings suck, i even had to go through a lot of files just to get to the debugTool and set a couple of things, but after that the image quality looked amazing. The only thing i don't like about the quest 2 is the color fidelity, but i don't complain much because it is my first VR headset and it is just amazing what the quest 2 can do with such a low price, but i intend to buy a best VR headset for my PC in the future and keep using the quest 2 stand alone feature to play beat saber XD
Oh, you're using default Questlink settings, I was confused for the whole video 😅 Those settings were made for Quest 1 and it feels like they abandoned Questlink forever ago. Airlink usually works better and can use the same 500mbit H264 as the cable can. In my experience the biggest problem of Quest headsets in PCVR is not compression but the latency from bumping of the bitrate.
@@Blix8 one more reason for me to use the cable lol. I don't really feel any latency problems when using the cable and i don't use the official oculus link cable
@@leonardosampaio8976 I mean the encoding/decoding latency when you bump up the bitrate. BeatSaber feels like RubberSaber :)
I don't know why Meta "hides" all these settings.
Im new to this vr stuff, and planning to get the quest 3 as my first vr headset. And waited out after release to see reviews for it
That is a super safe bet, really excited to see what Meta announces at Connect in just a few days!
quest 3 is by far the best VR headset imo, only downside is the lack of displayport.
Will be getting my hands on the Quest 3 pretty soon, excited to see it!
insert rant about why the g920 is absolute dogshit for 300 dollars, and why you go get direct drive for 400 from fanatec (minor loss of one pedal, but another one can be gotten extra, and much more expensive shifter)
It ain't bad $100 used haha
@@BonelessVR Ok, now that's closer to what the retail price should actually be
im doing a pc build in a month or 2 with vr in mind. should i go with nvidia and would a 4070 be enough for any vr game?
Hey quick tip! if you don't want to deal with compression on a quest 2 or 3 or any wireless lineup, try getting yourself a cheap 5g router, pluf it into a spare ethernet port on your computer, and DON'T plug it into the internet through a mode, run it as a wireless access point, or WAP as I liek to call it :) and then connect to it's wifi on your headset, the headset wont have internet but hopefully if you did it right your PC still should, it gets rid of so much compression!
I can't get back into VR man, my quest 2 ate shit for no reason D:
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That headset that got sponsored to you, really reminds me of the Dell Visor (I own one).