Maybe VR isn't dead after all... - Valve Index Review
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Oculus Rift S, anyone? Linus forgot to mention it entirely!!!!!!! No need for extra cameras at all, for $ 400, it’s a good VR headset...
Oculus said they would send one, then ghosted. While I was waiting, this came out. All in good time.
Linus giving them the cold shoulder, good move.
i refunded the oculus rift s, didnt rlly like it, the wmr is much better
Phillipe i agree with you I have the oculus rift s and with the limited amount of space I have it works perfectly for my predicament because of the use of the inside out track as opposed to the outside in with the base stations. I really enjoy not having to do all of the routing for the base station and not having a super long drawn out setup of the rift s. I feel like it is being overlooked by many because people are complaining about the tracking abilities but I have not had any issues with the tracking of the rift s and for 400$ it’s a steal for the specs and everything that comes with it
@@LinusTechTips wait because oculus didnt send you one, u didnt mention it in the video?! just buy it like everyone else dont be cheap
12:55 That cat is literally Linus in Cat form.
Yes!
Yep
That clip shows well why I love cats but hate having one in my home... (that and tracking kitty grit everywhere)
Linux Cat Tips.
I imagine socks and sandles patterned mittens.
3:32 Wow, it's awfully kind of Valve to include a free cat with every headset!
So it’s alive?
@@bertoandon9681 or is it?
@@harrisroberts7912 🤣
I already have 3 cats, so this was a deal-breaker for me. A shame really.
Timóteo André please, three’s not nearly enough 😂
I still do wish that it was more of a strap-on experience - Linus 2019 11:59
I was just about to make the exact same comment hahaha
I was just going to say "Thats what she said"
I just deleted my comment :(
maybe he could buy one for his wife to use on him?
Now everyone knows he prefers the strap-on experience. that line was hilarious I wonder who wrote it cause they need a raise
*VRChat players:* I'm _broke._
*Also VRChat players:* So this is my new Index and full body.
This is sadly true (I’m not one btw)
lmaoo
Exactly!! They are all depressed 20 year old Americans that always say they’re broke when they have high range tech!!
@@delsi26 they are broke because they splurged their money on the high tech
Mummy n daddy have a 5 bedroom house behind a gate and they want to act broke hard done by or ghetto lol whats wrong with just being yourself these days
OMG, is this the collab with that Linus Cat Tips channel we have all been waiting for???
Wonder why he ever stopped back in the day
@@scottm6018 I think both Rumble and Rocket are gone. It's hard to make videos about cats when you don't have any cats around.
@@cl4ster17 they really was the best videos about back then 😂
@@cl4ster17 Linus has a cat.
Loved his review on the new Lazer pen with liquid cooling
3:33 "the brand new Valve cat"
rip the cat, their nanny put in the the clothes dryer and it died.
Justin my bad i thought it was the same cat both times
Gaben send that cat
Valve cat at 3:33, Half life 3 confirmed!
@@lucashurley7612 That was Shadow, the one knocking everything down at the beginning.
Are we gonna ignore the cat in the box when he opened it
Yes
@@yknow4949 no
Came looking for this comment
Steam really knows Linus cat in box is his favorite position...
i just came to the comments about that!
*"I still do wish it was more of a strapon experience"*
~Linus 2019
It comes with a free cat?! SOLD!!!!
Same thing my ex wife said!
@@michaelchow385 lmao copied comment but who cares 😅
You should put a time stamp on that lol
And then not long after he was saying the headphone jack was “deep in that hole” 😂
It comes with a free cat?! SOLD!!!!
i'll take 10
3:33 Confirmed.
the cat is probably worth $999 and the device itself is $0.99
this needs a pin, honestly.
why would it come with a cat
I had no idea that you were into a strap on experience. Not judging.
your beard is off the hook!!!
I heard him say that and went straight to the comments hahaha
getting slightly worried about Linus
11:59 for those that need quick access for memes. Yer welcome. ;D
@@bamula2 Same
Linus when he sees the box: “it’s a box”
The cat when it sees the box: “it’s free real estate”
XD best one like that yet
3:32 RANDOM CAT POPPING OUT OF NOWHERE!!!!
Wait, what? You don’t know Adult Swim?
You fuck, I love it lol
Schrodingers cat when it sees the box: "I'm dead"
60% "Strap on Expierience" 11:59
39% "OH CAT LOL" 3:33
1% Hard Editing work LOL! 12:46
Pepperoni
@@Ricky_1531 I disagree
Should've been 69% strapon experience
100% reason to remember the name
Pepperoni
3:31 Just casually shipped a cat lol
-Linus using the cat for views-
*Cat using Linus for views.*
Corrected it for ya, bruh.
LinusCatTips is a great channel BTW
@@AM-dc7pv Good one
um is that number right that many likes in that much time my most was 2 likes one like was from me XD
@@AM-dc7pv yep then it buys cat food hehe and takes over the world like in boss baby series
"I still do wish that it was more of a strap on experiance.." xD
I wanna say stop but... my god that’s funny please keep going
One step closer to Linus Sex Tips
He he he I saw this coming as soon as I herd him
d k oml dude when I saw this comment he was saying that sentence and we read it and Sayed it at the same time 😂
69 likes :D
For Beat Saber there is a mod called "Saber Tailor" that allow you to change the angle of the sabers, I find it really needed after switching to the new controllers.
Yeah I had a mod kit before, but curiously after switching to the index it disappeared. Was gonna look into it when I have a free evening.
Linus Tech Tips if you grip the index controllers further in the back and slightly rotated they work perfectly. For me they then feel more like sabers and actually kinda awesome.
@@sbogdoggy I can concur with this.
THANK GOD.
@@LinusTechTips mods have to be reinstalled after each update. Just make sure you are using ModAssistant and not the old beat saber mod manager
Linus: Wait, vr isn't dead?
Valve: Never has been.
12:02 Linus is wishing for a strap-on experience.
I came to the comments for the strap on experience.
D me too
@@anxplodinturtle7928 you want to be 'D'ed as well?
@@dalton1824 took more scrolling than i initially thought
@@mistakenotou7681 same, I almost lost hope.
Linus doesn't even care he got a free kitty with his order...
@Kenny Kaufman ikr
Everytime he cut the video he pet the cat
@Kenny Kaufman no
Cats love boxes. It's science.
yes
Cat breaks something.
Linus: "I know. You're only doing what daddy taught you."
The final test for the cat will be dropping an AMD GPU.
@@MarkSKristensen no not expensive enough. It should drop a titan rtx
Is Linus just the Tim Taylor of Tech?
@@MarkSKristensen No the final test is dropping a Xeon Platinum
Did Linus train the cat or did the cat train Linus? I mean cats are experts in dropping stuff from birth on.
in 20 years from now I can see someone looking back at this video and laughing at this antique.
Already feels like that now, the quest 2 is a fucking great VR headset with no camera set up or wires and it’s like 300 bucks
@@ufo5587 apparently you can balance the ipds between the switches so in between each setting
@@ufo5587 use sidequest to increase resolution also.
One could only hope! I hope it does get better than this!
"Strap-On"
"Deep inside that hole"
Careful, Linus, TH-cam's AI will catch you!
"depending on what you're doing in vr, you might not want other people to be able to hear"
@@fortunefed8719 i thought he replied to himself.
A strap on experience
i stopped at that point...
i was... okay i will get fucked by that device
INDEX - more a trap on experience - deep inside that hole...
Not gonna lie, I paid more attention to the cat than Linus.
The cat game is strong in his home videos... :D
Haha
The cat knows the value of the box.
Linus cat tips
What's the kitteh's name? That's not Shadow.
12:00 "I do prefer the strap on experience"
Of course you do Linus
BUTT! he said right after
The profile pic and the comment sells this so hard
Yvonne loves it too
Erik Bakker I was thinking the exact same thing 😂😂😂
I’m glad to see that at least 360 other people had the same thought
“I pulled some strings...” and had it shipped to a buddy right across the border
We all know that it was really the cat that pulled the strings.
Just ordered the valve index myself. cant wait for it to come in, honestly im stoked on the free purring machine the description left out.
How is it?
did you get it and what is your opinion about the valve index?
bump i wanna know your opinion about it aswell please write back whenever you are freely available thank you!
burp
"I know you're only doing what daddy taught you"
You mean dropping expensive electronics?
Shadow is the goodest boi
No reply?
@@n_aniki Apparently not :(
@@SeaIify Ikr
@@n_aniki reply
@@CrystalRoots102 Ok
Cat: Hippity hoppity the box is now my property
If it fits it sits...
Each Index ships with its own Shroddinger's Cat, wave function undefined
Linus always wants the strap-on experience.
as soon as I heard it: ctrl + f - "strap".
The roast told us, Yvonne's the one wearing the strap-ons ;)
Love u Yvonne. You're doing a great job at LTT.
3:35 I love that there is a complementary cat that comes with the VR headset. The cat alone is worth the purchase for me.
"A strap on experience" ;-)
Linus Sebastian 2019
12:00
Whattej? Never tried Frick Dungeon?
Delos Inc.
"A strap on experience... But(t)"
Linus Sebastian 2019
13:20 "You're only doing what Daddy taught you."
And you taught him well Linus. He's dropping expensive equipment like a professional. :)
It truly is stunning to see how far VR has come in the past two years, regardless of Facebook
For better or worse, the Quest 2 is one of the main reasons VR has grown exponentially over the last year and a half.
You know what else is amazing about the Valve Index ? Full Linux support from day 1.
thank you based gaben
tbh it be stupid on valves site, not to support linux as they have their own distro.
Gaben to gamers is what Stallman is to open source advocates
Yeah, its awesome.
🤣🤣 @3:33 "let's talk about....." Yes Linus let's talk, talk about that poor cat you've been keeping packed away in the box hahaha 🤣
is the cat included ? If yes - I need one !!!
1000 USD for a cat, totally worth it :)
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣BROOO THATS SO FUNNY 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It was meant to elicit this exact kind of comment.
This was a fresh unboxing, so kitty is confirmed mixed reality, without even the need to put on the headset. Valve stepping it up with disposable holographics!
Came back to this video 3 years later because we're still waiting for the next-gen Valve headset! Hopefully it'll be soon!
Linus tech tips the type of guy to invite you over to his house to play games and never give you a turn
fact
Thats a doug demuro meme not a linus meme
And that’s a fact
"Maybe VR isn't dead after all"
Me: *Throws* *something* *across* *the* *room*
Dude what
@@feelingfriskyx560 TLDR: No, no it's not remotly dead.
@@souporwormgaming yeah its just not funny
How come you got a cat with yours? I didn't get a cat! VALVE! MOM!!?!
The cat is free but you had to check the box during purchase
-Gaben
Remember when Gaben gave out his steam password to show off the steam guard's "amazing capabilities" when he was legit showing fucking 2-step authorisation. Once you find his email password, that will be all it takes to fuck him.
"I still do wish that it was more of a... a strap-on experience..." - Linus Sebastian 2019 (#iheartlinus)
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
hahaha I paused the video and went searching for this comment . did not disappoint xD
that game isn't out yet, sadly.
International Women's Day? 🤣
Someone provide Linus with a complementary strap-on experience please!
3 years later and I’m still using my vive while I wait for an index wireless adapter
nofio vr adapter
I like wired
*“I still do wish it was more of a strap-on experience”*
Could have gotten that for way less....
12:44
*Blurs out middle finger*
*Doesn't blur out second middle finger*
Linus: blurrs a middle finger.
Also Linus: show a head being chopped off, blood splatter from enemies...
Lol
We know the decapitation and blood is make believe but that finger.... that finger is real.
@@sonnikdoh2510 Horrifying finger*
American priorities
@@nommchompsky Linus and LMG are based in Canada...
linus house tour: hosted by cat
WHEN
"You're Only Doing What Daddy Taught You... But We Don't Do That." -- Linus 2019
Oh God, that sounds _so bad_ out of context.
"I really like the Strap-on experience" - Linus 2019
So did Linus just say he doesn't drop stuff? That's a big lie...
@@gloigord3047 I guess he just meant that "we shouldn't drop stuff" despite him setting the wrong example for the cat by dropping stuff himself.
I am so glad that you made this video. You basically answered a question I had about something that just happened like about an hour ago. Real lifesaver. If I ever hit that Powerball I will have to hire you when I do the computer stuff.
4:40 Cat: Wow, new box for me. Let;s review it.
I always thought Linus preferred a strap-on experience. :-D
I hate the strap on one. I wear glasses and like smashed my glasses into my faced every time I put one of those on.
@@Chris-yv7jy you missed the joke
@@thiagomarques3036 No I got the sex joke.
*cat knocks Switch on floor*
Linus: "That's my cat!"
Gaming PC that's going to cost you 1 to 2k...
Oh Linus, you were so innocent back then.
Pets DO take after their owners.
Does the Index come with a cat included? If yes than I am buying one.
TheXhadeZ yes
lol
نحب مجموع و لا يرضى بالحرية قوة راديو قدرة اقتصاد دورة
So, you want to test the hands but you didnt try the aperture hands lab demo to see whats possible with the right support?
Didn't test Blade and Sorcery either, which has full finger presence and uses the body tracking too.
@@insomnia4494 I just bought that game recently, kinda short but damn it's fun
@@insomnia4494 Lol, yeah. That price for nearly non-existent play length.
@@letsbegin-nerdbunker Blade & Sorcery is really what you make out of it. Its more of a sandbox and the modding community really helps with it.
I keep going back to it every other day to just fight a bit and give myself challenges like i am only allowed to throw weapons etc.
11:59 don't worry Linus, we already figured that out.
"Maybe VR isn't dead after all..."
Umm, when was VR dead?
After the Virtual Boy from the 90's
@@ryry187 Fair enough.
@@ryry187 more like before htcvive ,rift
5 years ago
@@Topman22
It was just too small for anyone who didn't invest in it to pay attention.
In late 2015 the original Rift wasn't even released. The only things that existed were a few development kits.
In 2016 the Rift was bought by super VR enthusiasts. While there was a good number of people playing -compared to '15- it couldn't be considered an industry.
It's hard for something to be dead when it was never alive to begin with.
I'd rather spend 1000$ on this than on a phone
Why anyone would spend 1000$ on a phone is beyond me.
Bonker - **Looks left and right frantically**
@@bonham1981 Yeah me too
People use phones for a lot of things though. Not saying VR isn't great, I have an Index, Vive, Rift, and PSVR at home. I love VR. But most people don't spend as much time in VR as they do with their phones.
you also need a $1000 Pc to play though
7:35
cant wait for the vive index to release
The Valve index comes with a cat. I am game!
12:50 Rest in peace, Shadow.
She lived up to her name
the cat went to the game. wow
It’s heart breaking
😢
@Thatched It's **really** messed up, but Linus' nanny at the time accidentally ran Shadow through the clothes dryer.
That nanny has been let go, and not a moment too soon.
VR isn't dead but my wallet is.
Linus has been dipping into Verge clickbait shit lately and it's a bad look for him.
@@blackhatfreak would you mind explaining on that?
@@johnjr2196 Linus made a terrible video about how VR is dead
I think he's talking about that
Just get a handy dandy credit card and your problem is solved!....until you have to pay it off lol
@@Tim_The_DimThis can be a good example, but I think he lost hope because technology was as advanced as he hoped it would've been.
"New Fascinating Possibilities" Index Users Discover the Middle finger Gesture
you can get this awesome VR experience or the apple monitor stand. your choice.
But how's the Valve Index gonna help me support my 5000$ monitor?
Apple sucks
I was kinda waiting for this comment xD
Apple VR Stand
@@icipher6730 Shh, don't ruin the magic. Apple VR is just a regular monitor stand with mirrors and 2000$ price tag attached.
I missed everything he was talking about, whenever the cat was in the picture. :)
Ah the traditional child experience, watching dad have fun, waiting for your own turn.
Kids honestly should wait. I wish parents wouldn't get their kids VR. it's highly detrimental to VR multiplayer experience.
Contact Boneworks by BrandonJLA and Stress Level Zero. They have full functionality for the index and an amazing physics engine
Hey another BrandonJLA fan! Yeh boonworks looks incredible and I don't even like VR
Excited for that to come out
It's a shame people think VR might be "dead", that couldn't be further from the truth.
Most people I know are super excited about VR. We all want it, but only 2-3 people I know actually bought it. The rest of us are just lurking and waiting for the games to develop, and prices to drop. They shouldn’t judge the future of VR based on current sales. The majority of people haven’t bought a headset yet, even though they are going to eventually. Lets just hope companies and developers see the bright future of VR and keep making it better and better, even if sales are low, and eventually it will pay off.
it's expensive, and in some countries almost impossible to buy due the price, and besides that it needs a huge pc, most people have a psvr, i think rift quest will help to make it more popular.
@No name ok 2020 is going to be the year of VR. With boneworks just having come out and a half-life game with the source engine 2 just around the corner. Almost all the headsets are sold out.
@No name ok just another bitter kid not happy with where he is in life so needs to ridicule others on then internet for some sort of validation
@@richardstylez1950 I'm actually in that exact boat right now, most/all of the VR game's I've seen have been more arcadey or mini game looking to me, I've been waiting for something a bit closer to a standard video game to come out, I'm getting super into all of this now because of boneworks, which is the first VR game I've seen that I'm actually super excited for, if more games like that come out, the VR naysayers will disappear in no time
VR never died in the first place. It just took a big downfall, but now in 2022, stuff like the valve index, HTC vive, and oculus quest 2 made VR more popular than ever
Anyone here after Half life alyx trailer?
lmfao guilty as charged
Here and about to be $2.5k poorer
lol Yes... Up to now I didn't feel I had a reason to own a VR headset... Now I'm all over Index video reviews and I'm convinced.
Me! I’m looking for a good (money isn’t a issue) VR without needing to mount anything. Any suggestions?
Yes.
It was never dead. Just too expensive for the mainstream. And is still the future.
You mean increasing the price by $500 did nothing to fix the "It's too damn expensive" problem?
btw you've just been clickbaited 😂😂😂
@@Kobriks1 yeah he watched a tec tips video
@@Pringlesman it's just monopol issue, FB doesn't bother about PCVR now, so they can price it what they want. Technology still progresses and there is already a small user base, that's what matters. Mainstream is all about standalone experience, maybe console, FB is more interested in that and new Oculus quest is dirt cheep for what it offers.
It's a niche, gaming will never be 100% VR.
4:38 “cat ohh box” jumps in “this is my house now!”
your cat had me at gun point he made me subscribe
How to sell VR; release Half Life 3 on it.
ITS BEEN TOO LONG VALVE.
Or just release a game of substance on it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It's been so long since the release of Half Life 2 that only old farts care about the series these days.
@@Wimbold facts.
Alot of the people that worked in developing that game have either left valve or died
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned that they are literally developing 3 games for the index, one of which is a prequel to hl1
"I still wish it was more of a strap-on experience"
There will be peripherals for that some day, I'm sure...
I see Sid the Sloth in the thumbnail of this video.
3:32
Ah, human... Khajiit has wares, if you have coin.
I love upisnotjump
Upisnotjump reference
Upisnotjump reference
More like skyrim reference though xd
@@nicksande6880 Nope, it was UpIsNotJump. *he* referenced skyrim with his cat, but I was referencing him.
😂 Please do more vr, it's fun seeing you invent fresh new dance moves
yall ever see linus's hair in the back and have the urge to give this man a free shape up
Linus: "even my 5 year old daughter can play"
Headset: "is my R13 sticker a joke to you?"
I haven't seen an age restriction on the Index. It even has an adapter for tiny heads and allow to adjust the inter-occulary lenses really closed ...
That sticker is only ment as a guide. You shouldn't let a child on vr often as their eyes will adapt to not needing to focus because the experience is stereoscopic.
3:33 I didn’t know the index came with a cat?
it been 4 years... I wonder when the index 2 is coming out?
Now you can finally give people the finger in VR!!
Tech Dunk _you always could tho_
@@polaskatyu9368 With the Vive? You certainly couldn't do that with rift as it tracks the bottom 3 fingers as one.
@@ikkuranus yeah, rift owner here and you can't
I was skeptical about vr until I tried the Oculus S at a friends house. Changed my mind entirely.
You're about 3 years late! Now you understand the hype!
Hehe, I bet this video will get a lot of new views because the new Half-Life.
Why does Valve always win? Because when idiots like me expect them to make a VR Half-Life game and I shit on them for it and then I buy an Index anyway
Yes
Indeed.
Zersetzung they’re actually making a new half life,
*o o f*
Nope. VR is a dying fad
Wise words of linus. " i think its hard to say if any gaming expirience is worth 1000$ depending on your lifes situation"
ultrawide 120fps 3440p is defintely worth it
for $1200 you get the HMD, Controllers, Sensors and a CAT!
It's obviously a reviewer's perk. 😂
So... alive?
* $1000
@@iscander_s + shipping and Tax*
but the cat is used
not new
just so you know if you want to buy only because of cat
omg.. zero packaging for the cat!
No need. Fluff pre attatched.
HOLY SHIT THANK YOU!!! I never realized what I was doing differently with swinging my arm until you said "badminton player, not a tennis player". I am/was as well and I usually flick my wrist and hadn't been able to figure out what was going wrong.
“Vive index”
Vive: hmm, don’t tell oculus
Vive index reverb s
@@rattlingduck8454 lol
“You’re only doing what daddy taught you.”
Yeah, about right. :)
I love that he has a black cat, and that he cradles his cat upside down, and it is OK with it. I trained my cat to be cradled like that too.
Exactly. It’s exasperated resignation, not anger.
watching this with bearded Linus existing kinda makes it weird, beard ftw.
Linus: My setup is only using a 980Ti
Me while stroking my reference 980: Yesss Linusss join ussss
Will work with Rift S
im with you running the 980TI :>
@@MrRourk I ran my Vive on a 960. VR isn't as hard to run as many people make out.
@@UnknownSquid what about 100k screen tho, like I do
@@MrRourk As long as you have Displayport, a 980 will run Rift S. Specs for Rift S aren't quite as high as the Valve Index since it's a little lower resolution and lower framerate, but the Rift S is still an upgrade over Vive and Oculus CV1.
I see Linus still rocking a Wii U. Classy.
My Wii u gamepad is broken
Need it for the classic game emulator.
I still have the original Wii with Wii Sports Resort 👌
@@dragonfury3378 ye same, and like 40 other games too. Lucky my console still works, ik others who's disk readers started dying out in the last couple years
New Index now with cat included xD @3:31
It's almost 2022 and I'm just now finding out about the Valve Index. Had no idea about any of this and I use steam all the time. Marketing issue if you ask me.
4:38 I think the cat in the background is way more interesting than what linus is doing.
he didn't play the Aperture hand labs made just for index :(
Tech demos are neat and all, but are wholly unrepresentative of how the tech gets implemented into actual releases.
@@ShroudedWolf51 they do, however, show what's possible with this technology
@@ShroudedWolf51 Blade and Sorcery is a release with full finger tracking. Plus, they show what's possible later along the line.
I pulled some strings and got a cut on my finger. You're a lucky guy Linus
3:32 Cat somehow managed to get into the box.... Everyone can use more cats in their life.
Yuck
One of the biggest upgrades for me from the vive pro to the index is the edge to edge clarity. I love it. Wish the knuckles analog sticks felt better to click though.