Tesla Model X VS Audi e-tron SUV - the all electric dog fight! | Fifth Gear
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.พ. 2020
- Jonny and Vicki in a Fifth Gear first, an all-Electric Dogfight! Audi’s first electric model the eTron SUV takes on the Tesla Model X to see which offers the best premium family EV.
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I've been in both of those cars and the Audi interior build quality is in another league compared to the Tesla.
if you care more about knobs and buttons than the actual technology, than go for Audi, but it will cost you $500 to update your maps and that will be about the only update you will get.
@@saliman4874 Apple CarPlay and Android Auto turn this into a moot point. Audi and Tesla make cars not navigation software, I'll leave that to Apple/Google et el.
@@mrkmcknz tesla have own version of google maps in case you don't know.
@@mrkmcknz and what is this? You have to use your phone to navigate in the car for 70k? Unacceptable
@@saliman4874 Yes, since you can have all your apps and Google Maps is superior to anything on the market. As he said, these are car manufacturers, I want them to drive well and connect to the phone. If you can connect to your phone, it's game over, no matter what software you have, since you're going to use your phone and control it through the screen anyway.
You should have put the Model X in low and set the suspension to Sport. Would have made a big difference. If it was the performance version the difference would have been much greater.
True but they were trying to compare the cars that are most similar in spec and price. The tesla was nearly ten grand more expensive in this comparison, so making it the performance model would just widen that price gap.
Chris C Would be interesting to run this test using the soon to be released Tesla Model Y SUV crossover.
Harper Wallace but the 6 seater are More expensive then 5 and 7.
This is deliberate, they can't be THAT stupid, right? Right? It's only their JOB to know about that kind of basic stuff.
@@harperwallace5633 Even the non-performance vehicle has these settings. They're standard on all Model X and Model S. They definitely should have used them.
Model X is set to high mode for the lap time!! There is a very low mode that improves track performance significantly.
Santiago Aguado Russo I knew before the video that they would screw up the Tesla testing. They talked about setting the Audi to launch mode, but just set their like Ms. MaGoo and pretended to not know anything about the model X. 😂
How do you know that for sure?
Yeah they didn’t go into max battery mode ludicrous+ in low mode. Audi would have probably been wrecked xD. Tesla never gets done right in these things lmao.
@@MsMiiSuki
That is not a performance tesla, it doesn't have that mode.
They are either willfully ignorant or a bunch of incompetent morons. Wich is it?
The Model X goes half a second faster 0-60mph when lowered! If it was lowered it would make a big difference in 0-60 and also the lap time.
I really like the Way Audi looks especially in the back but those "mirrors" are terrible
Free These Mirrors are just an Option
Those are gonna be common on cars within the next 5 years. Aerodynamics is WAYY better, plus no blind spots, and it'd also be used for self driving purposes
Tesla suspension auto lowers at speed, and a Tesla can’t put 100% to front or rear axle like claimed, it’s why the performance car has a bigger rear motor. Lots of mistakes in their review
"The Model X goes half a second faster 0-60mph when lowered!" - this one?! Prove it...
Audi
Side on, trying too hard.
Front
Why the grille?
Although I do like the Model X because of its power, I like the Audi more because of the interior styling, its price, and how cool Audi cars are generally
That’s Tesla biggest problem is the interior. It’s no we’re as good as Audi.
@@mastersilence3446 Fr man
I love Audi's build quality and their attention to detail. Tesla's interior doesn't even match what the E-tron offers. Looks like the Germans win this one.
@@gauravramasani9395 yeah, the only thing Audi is not so good at is there batteries. If they make there batteries better they winning.
Good video. Still strange to see that the ‘old manufacturers’ have not found the answer yet to beat the Tesla. And face it, without the Tesla there would not be a electric Audi.
I don't find it too strange that other manufacturers haven't found the answer yet. Tesla started their company on electric drive trains and have focused solely on it.
HisFatness your forgetting Mercedes and bmw, Toyota and Honda who had hydrogen (basicly electric driven cars) at least 20 years ago. They just didn’t pushed forward enough. They were in a comfortable place. They had and still have the knowledge but had a lack of focus and vision to take the step. Look at the Mercedes electric car. Nobody buys it. Only Audi does sells some. And some bmw i3’s. Look at a Nissan leave, who came up with that design?? They laughed about Tesla and had zero idea they had so much focus to push forward. They thought the car business was their business. No I think arrogance did it. And now they are behind. Let’s hope companies will pick up the pace because you need serious competitors to stay sharp.
Turns out electric drive trains and battery tech are not easy. And it’s very difficult for entrenched companies to switch off profit and convert themselves back into R&D in order to catch up. Tesla has a solid 5-6 year technology lead. Quickly cracking 400 mi with just a 100kwh pack.
@@OnTheSnap1 in efficency yes there the have technical lead but in charging speed or build quality or handling they are a little behind.
Face it, without car companies there would have never been a Tesla electric vehicle. Audi had been around over 100 years, Tesla will never last that long as a car company.
And the Tesla bulls keep saying there is no competition. They have their heads in the sand.
Honestly
Audi all day every day
You crazy
Tesla all day
Good luck going anywhere past 200 miles then
@@youngchirp12
Huckkkk... no!
Sales numbers don't agree with you lmao the Tesla sells much much better, and the Tesla as 92% costumer satisfaction vs 70% from Audi, big uff bruh, numbers don't lie.
X model can go faster if you go to settings))) and traction controll can be set up)))
If I'm taking a long trip, give me the Tesla. Any other time, I'll take the Audi.
Why didn't you get the Performance version of the Tesla?
I think this is the second time they did this. In one of there previous video's they also didn't use the performance model.
And they put the Tesla’s air suspension in high
Maybe because the Tesla was already much more expensive than the Audi?
I support their choice to for the normal one. Much better value for money and plenty fast enough for en SUV.
They didn't want the Audi to look too pathetic.
I smell a RAT! How was the drag race so close? e-tron 0-60 is 5.5 sec. Base Model X o-60 4.4 sec. Looks like the Model X was in "Chill" mode. This isnt the first time Fifth Gear has falsified Tesla's acceleration.
Rick Cobia yup
Maybe they don’t know ludicrus
@@bobtechnica1150 That doesn't exist in the base Model X. Only the top version has that. This cheaper Model X is already substantially more expensive than the Audi so no point in bringing an even more expensive Tesla.
They didnt put in low suspension, which limits the available torque, that's why they are too close on drag race
Armatures, the Tesla need to be set in Very Low (air suspension) for it to give full power in a drag race !!! Still faster even with 80% :-)
Also since it’s a raven should out dampening to sport mode
Willfully ignorant or very stupid. Wich is it?
@BTICronox Did you even see everything he had to do on the Audi?
BTICronox in the video, it didn’t seem like “one button”. Either way, the Tesla beat it without all the extra settings so I’m not sure why there’s even a debate.
BTICronox doesn’t matter, they changed settings on the Audi and didn’t even check to see if Tesla had similar settings. These aren’t real car journalists.
Lower the suspension on the X, you will gain better cornering ability and faster acceleration.
Luckily, it is accomplished by one swipe on the screen.
Macio Luko They always play dumb whenever they test Teslas. It still won anyway, but it really isn’t that close.
Incompetent clowns, or purpose?
@@UTUBESUCK666 maybe purpose to not humiliate some company.
@@summertyme5748
It also manages to out-ugly anything in its class.
Tesla didn’t change any controls lol
Naven Lim and if they did, it’d embarrass the e-tron.
@@stevemulcahy5014 Are you saying that Tesla is just being nice?
@@stevemulcahy5014 would be quite emberassing if your car would cost about 100k Euro and have the finishing quality of a 20k hatchbag, wouldnt it ;)
Just sat in a tesla Model x and an etron lately and oh boy... The tesla did not feel like a car that costs 100k, while the audi on the other Hand definitely felt like it was worth it's cost
@@paulreuss2247 Awesome. I'm glad VAG seem to be taking EVs seriously. Wasn't without a little bit of punishment for cheating diesel range though, was it?
yeap, is not fair, Tesla would beat Audi easy in Ludicrous mode
E-tron 💯
That wasnt the Performance Model X... but whatever makes Europe feel better
take it to track, any tesla bs you like against any e-car vag could bring. have the balls?
No because price-wise they would be completely incomparable. The Tesla here is already 10k more expensive; pretty impressive what Audi has delivered for less.
Edit: The model X here is actually £14k ($16.4k) more expensive. The Performance mode is another £15k more on top. Comparing them would do nothing more than massage the egos of Tesla fanboys. As though any consumer would countenance paying £30k more for a car with a faster lap time than an Audi e-tron
Lol RIGHT
Audi flogged it around the track. Who cares about a tiny win in a straight line
I own solar panels, Tesla Model X, and powerwall. I save $600/month on home electricity and gas. I also have the biohepa/positive ventilation option. In stop and go traffic, I can switch off the car in front of me tail pipe smokestacks from going into my car. Plus my car and garage no petrochemical odors
Good for you. Not all of us have £120k lying around to help us save £600 per month . But we need wealthy people like you out there blazing the trail and helping make the technology cheaper and more mainstream.
I think in UK you will be referred to as "cockwomble"
@@MrGonzonator exactly 😅😅
I have a solar powered bed side lamp, Get on my level Scott.
Ok so this was a very great video and I gave it a like, but you did not put the Tesla on sport mode or on very low setting of the suspension. The car was clearly on its highest suspension setting. That not only affects handling and acceleration but it also decreases the cars top speed (-30 mph). The car literally has 150hp less than it should have in this test.
also they used the longe range instead of the performance
mish That is understandable
THANK YOU!!
This isn't the P100D ludicrous...or else it would destroy the Audi
I think they were trying to get two similar price ranges
Probably still lose going around the track. Tesla just does not have the experience of chassis design and making cars going around corners really really well. But they are learning and give them a few more years.
@@thudtheace i think you really don't know how far Tesla is? Haven't you seen how good the Model 3 was in comparisson with the BMW M3?
Dude..... no current tesla can beat the big wigs of moto racing in handling.... hopefully the new roadster does
It´s already 20% more expensive as tested than the AUDI, so I´m not really sure what your point is.
Somewhere, there needs to be a relatability between tested cars.
Tesla wins in any test because it’s more efficient, able to go farther, faster, seats up to 7, gets OTA updates, has access to Superchargers and the residual values are very good.
Also, if you don’t have the Model X in the lowest air suspension setting you don’t get the full power output in order to save the U-joints. I don’t think they had the Model X lowered to “Very Low”. I also don’t know if they are using the most up to date Model X that has adaptive dampers and the revised air suspension.
After having a variety of cars from VW, MINI, Mercedes, Honda, Infiniti, and JLR I can say by far my favorite car is my Tesla Model 3. It’s so fun to drive quick, the updates keep you from feeling like you’re missing out on something “next years” model has, and enjoying the vast advantage Tesla’s Supercharger network has in the US vs. non-Teslas that are stuck using a hodgepodge of unreliable DC fast charging stations run by 50 different companies and many of them are drastically lower output than Tesla’s V2 or V3 Superchargers.
I just wish Fifth Gear gave a little more info on what they were testing (current X or something they found from a private owner that’s a couple years old)?
Blablabla... when i read "wins any test" i lost interrest. Tesla fans lose all objectivity when it comes to their babys. It really makes me think what they fuck is going on in your heads.
@@Andi-ft5rt sorry but he is right Tesla is year ahead off anybody els becouse the started first and the have all the expertis that old carmaker dont have. The even sayed that the cant do what tesla does. Its just reality.
The professional reviewers at Consumer Reports gave the Audi E-Tron a "Recommended Rating" and a score in the 80's. The Model X was rated in the mid 50's...
@Marten Dekker
The model X has a bad interior for the price and the falcon doors have serious reliability issues.
Please out the shoot and airing date in description, most of your upload are of older videos.
Nice comparo - however in the USA, the Audi charges faster at a high-speed charging station (Electrify America). Not sure how it in in the UK. Good comparo. The Audi still has the $ 7,500 Federal Tax Credit which is gone on the Teslas, so it comes out about $ 20K less in price overall (in USA)
we have Ionoty here (which is basically European electrify america), but it cost too much to charge there and you can't really find one still. Modey Y deliveries are starting in mid March, so etron sales will crush even more
Have you heard of superchargers???
sali man Just use another charging card... There are enough providers to choose from.
Also, you can’t really compare the Model Y with the e-Tron. The direct competitor of the e-Tron is and always was the Model X and btw the e-Tron sales absolutely crush the Model X sales in many countries.
Actually the federal tax credit has been extended for another two years
The Tesla charges faster, what matters is how many miles per minute you can charge, not how many kWh per minute.
Did you just forget about the front luggage space when looking at space and seating? At least with the e-tron, Audi can't shove an engine way out front for that good old understeer
Ooh a Clarskon type armchair expert.
actually the audi e tron can charge at 150 kilowatts when the tesla is at 120kilowatts so it actually charges 80% in 30 min
That’s not a P100D. No comparison. The Model X P100D is one of the fastest vehicles of any type in the world. Tesla also built out the supercharger network from day one which almost put them out of business in 2012. Now they reap the benefits. We drive our Tesla’s all over North America on the supercharger network. Just plain awesome.
AMATEURS!!! Fifth Gear need to do the test again with correct settings.
Some facts first about the car:
Tesla Model X Long Range "raven"
(Non performance, non ludicrous)
Facts about how to unlock the power:
Tesla go more than a 1 second faster 0-100 KPH if they had set the suspension to LOW. Because the power is limited approx 15% by software, to protect driveshaft in STANDARD height or HIGH. They used STANDARD, or HIGH in both dragrace and around the race track.
Correct suspension setting would give a lead in they're dragrace by a couple of car lengths if race was 402meters.
They also didn't use LAUNCH MODE by pressing both pedals 4 seconds, that would shaved off even more time on the dragrace. Because of much harder take off and computer permit more power in higher speed also.
Tracktimes would been ALOT faster in suspension setting LOW, or VERY LOW. Because the computer limits the power approximately 15% if suspension is set to STANDARD or HIGH like it was in both dragrace and around racetrack.
Tracktimes improve dramatically when suspension is set to LOW or VERY LOW, also because of MUCH lower senter of mass.
Tracktimes improve dramatically when SUSPENSION stiffness is set to SPORT. Because of stiff compression and rebound.
They didn't use Standard (max) regen, that would definitely shaved of many second's on the lap times, because it prevents the brakes from getting faded.
If all the settings was correct on the Tesla it would beat the E-tron on the race track and drag strip with several seconds, easy every time, even though the Tesla was only a Long Range non/not performance (Have less than half the power of the Performance Ludicrous "raven"Model X..
Because, Tesla Long Range would have 15% more power and much lower senter of mass and much stiffer suspension.
This test was completely nonsense, make me think it was staged/paid for. Or they didn't take 10 minutes to learn how to operate the car correct.
It's very easy in fact.
1: Suspension: LOW (or) VERY LOW
2: Suspension mode: SPORT
3: Launch mode: press both pedals 4 sec.
4: Regeneration set to standard (max)
Re do this test please. But do it correctly.
Regen doesn't always improve lap times, as it can speed up the point at which the battery pack overheats. Depends on lap distance etc. Anyway handling tests are always a bit bogus, possibly they had suboptimal settings on the Audi, more generally the car that happens to have stickier standard tires will always win. When tires are similar then the car that happens to have a better track alignment will win. Such is life. eat arbys.
If the human wants to drive, buy the Audi. If the human wants software to drive, buy the Tesla. Simple.
What spec was the model x? Was it in Ludacris mode? Did you have Regen mode on? What suspension height was the x set to?
Ludicrous
What nobody seems to mention is that Tesla build everything in-house (HW & SW). Audi appoint the usuals for separate bits and modules, Bosch, Delphi, Denso, Siemens, LG, Panasonic etc.. All those modules have their own firmware. Tesla can update every module in the car, in one hit as everything is controlled by a very powerful central computer unit. Also, the Model X has the hardware "out the box" for level 5 Autonomy. Just some software, that's holding it back.
I'm not a Tesla fan, but Elon has really shook things up in the EV world and the regular car manufacturers have got loads of catching up to do.
Tesla definetly doesn't build everything in house. A Tesla is basically a very badly built German car if you look at the parts. Just Google it and you will be surprised how much Bosch, Siemens,... Parts are in there.
If that were true Jack of all trades springs to mind. Your argument doesn't stand up. E.g. If you want to build the best HiFi system or the best TV or even the best car, you search out and source the best components. The best design in the world means nothing if you put it together with components that are better made by others. Are you saying Tesla designed and built the processors inside the "powerful central computer" or the Digital electronics, or the multi layer circuit boards and auto insert machines to poulate them with the nano components that go into these complex electronics, do they build the tyres or make the glass do they make the steel and aluminium. Think about what you are saying its nonsense and huge folly or huge hubris for Tesla if they tried. Also Audi built level 5 autonomy into the A8, A7 etc.a couple of years ago, its not fully switched on because the law doesnt currently allow it. Looking at a Tesla wreck today where its "driver" was killed by a head on whilst he played on his phone, so the belief is that there should be no headlong rush to normalize this technology.
@@Viktor2188 Siemens Autoparts, lol
@@Viktor2188 that's the most incorrect you could actually be.
Level 5 autonomy... Is that why Tesla upgrades the hardware in new models.
Audi E Tron is amazing
It's a boat...
@@Nickoboss29 luxury boat, amazing to drive better the crapy tesla,
@@marceloalencar9373 both are elephants
@@Nickoboss29 Here we are 5 months later and the new Audi e-tron GT got released, is it a boat too?
@@Ramialay with 2.275 kg it's not something that can be considered light...
For the correct acceleration you need to put the air suspension on low , everyone knows this. But apparently car journalists don’t.
they never doz they always put it in the wrong level to make it slower and they even use range mode.....
Rodrigo Sousa I now. Really Sad.
The suspension is controlled by the computer which automatically adjusts for maximum traction, no launch mode, you guys need to catch up with the future.
@@13coyote13 that is not true I have a Tesla model X and tesla model 3 I know what I am talking about u can change the level so don't say things like u know them AND ALSO I know it does not have launch control AND IF U DONT USE THE SUSPENSION ON THE LOWEST MODE IT WILL DO 0-100 IN 5 SECONDS INSTEAD OF 4.4 BECAUSE THE CHASSIS IS NOT ALIGNED, u just proved u don't know what u are talking about so plz just stfu, the computer only adjusts that in the normal driving conditions not when u put it in the lowest mode since IF THEY DID CHANGE WITHOUT ASKING they would make the car slower by changing the level so off they don't do that. I have a tesla model X 100D I know what I'm saying so plz don't act like u know everything when u don't.
@@13coyote13 You're wrong. You should work with these "Journalists" - they don't know anything either. There are sport modes, suspension settings, etc all to get better performance. These clowns set none of those - ON PURPOSE.
E-Tron should be charging faster than the Model-X. Unfortunately, there are not a lot of ultra-fast chargers (Ionity, Fastned etc.) in the UK right know. In some countries those charging providers are already close to Teslas supercharging network.
That stationary Handley page victor in the background is way much more lively and charming than those milk floates crawling around tracks
My dad has a e tron, you get used to the mirrors and it’s a incredible car
3:12 Really quiet drag racing. loved it
but e-tron whopped MX by 6 secs
@@7spower998 I mean I don't really care who won necessarily. I just love the fact that they are both silent but deadly.
Great video guys, my friend has had the E-tron over a year and he loves it.
I was also in the Ford Mustang Mach-E today and that was also pretty impressive considering its £40k price
Fifth Gear always stacks the deck against the Tesla
bigggmustang73 Can’t make it look bad or the other OEMs might not favor them. They probably paid for
The Tesla, Audi was probably loaned to
them free. Heaven forbid reviewers actually rent cars for unbiased reviews.
Audi is just another level man. The feeling you get with an Audi is just fantastic.
Those Tesla doors always are missaligned and break
Gregory Perkins Yeah the X often has some issues with the doors that keep it off the CR recommended list. S and 3 are recommended
The sprint race was so close they should have swapped drivers to give a fair comparison as Vicky is obviously lighter and then the Audi may have won.
Tesla already had a disadvantage, was spec’d with third row.
THIS is the 5th gear that’s best gear. Fix your team tests and maybe we’ll come back. Get rid of Mutton Chops and bring back Tiff and we’ll definitely come back.
Yea, I'm sure the drag race was that close. God I hate these edited clips faking reality
May I ask how you know it’s fake?
@@mihnealazar7039 he doesn’t he’s just stupid
That looked great fun, maybe one day I could afford one, or maybe both, probably ...... not.
You can convert your ice vehicle to ev for a few bucks..
I plan on doing that.
Saw a video of a guy converting an old Passat .. Damn great job he did !
Someone even converted a Dacia Logan !
Good things are comin' !
Once you stop paying for gas (petrol) you will never look back. It's an amazing feeling and liberation.
@@dan_6915 not as easy as you think. Please post updates on TH-cam.
Meanwhile got myself a 2014 Outlander Phev and very happy with the transtion. Sold my 2015 Mazda 6 2.2 Skyactiv D which I loved but doing only 20 miles average a day so the Mitsu ticked all my boxes :D
@@dan_6915 Vezi pe ala cu BMW E30 Tesla swap conversion:D Eu mi-am luat Mitsubishi Outlander Phev din 2014 intre timp si ca platforma e perfect pt fully electric mai tarziu cu ceva baterii mai bune in viitor:D Momentan fac 36km pe electric acum cand e rece.
Did she not know lunicrus and ludicrus+ is a thing? Or did the not have that feature in the car?
Hi did you drive the model x i sport mode, when you drove the 2 rounds on track? Did you have the lowest settings on suspension?
Nice video, thanks for doing this, but I wonder if the Tesla would have handled better if you set suspension to "lowest". I'm presuming it was left on "standard" since it was not discussed.
You can see on arch liner it is on standard or high.
@@kmetmosnja6341 !!!
What about Ludicrous Mode?
!!!
So we just gonna pretend not to notice they forgot the frunk? And superchargers? And Autopilot? And NOA? And OTA? And Safety? And resale? And efficiency? And battery density? And the performance variant? I can go on.
The E-Tron has a 'Recommended' rating on Consumer Reports and is literally rated 30 points higher than the Model-X. Are we just going to pretend it isn't?
@@mowhinay Super good point! I'm just surprised the above weren't mentioned.
Given the price difference and the huge gap in lap times I’d say Audi all day long! I ain’t planning on road tripping every weekend so 240+/- range is more than enough for a couple days driving before I plug it in at night
Austin Oakley Range and inefficiency would be a fea realer for me either the Audi. And poor infotainment, OTA, no NOA, etc.
I picked the Audi. It's far more affordable, and I'll charge away from home once in a blue moon. The Model X, even used, is just too expensive and too complicated. Reliability is terrible.
You forgot to lower the Tesla High, that's at least 15% additional performance missing...
Not the same without Tiff!!!!!
Yeah
@ 10:48 "Hustling a minibus" alright Johny. That's the correct description of the MX
Was model X in low suspension?
Now that the real car makers are getting in the electric game is going to kill Tesla because Tesla's design team is kind of bland and it's interior SMH. Tesla you better steel Mercedes interior design team and Ferrari exterior design team or else it can possibly be over for you.
Awesome to see Audi pushing the EV market! One thing to think about though.. would the e-tron have even been built at this point if it were not for Tesla? Not using a performance MX was one many details that were overlooked for both vehicles. Model Y is about to change the game!!
Right!!
The intro says it all - many people still think an electric vehicle is like driving a 1970's milk float. Electric is the future; leaving aside the climate issues, EVs are cheaper to run, lower maintenance, quiet, quick and should have a working life of 500,000 miles or more. I'm biased, I bought a BMW i3 last year - I don't miss pistons at all.
Don’t the model x rear seats drop? Come on let’s try not to mask that Tesla really is leaps ahead
And the production of eTron is halted. Another Tesla killer bites the dust even with so much media push.
The term 'Tesla killer' is just attention seeking lazy journalists not from the car makers or the owners of electric vehicles , apart from a few idiots as usual , especially considering the Jag , Audi & Mercedes were always planned to be built in limited numbers not mass produced like a Tesla !.
@@aidanwilson6035 agreed the First Etron was really a clever adapted test bed. The model ranges to come will be better in every way and the worrying thing for Tesla is that shared platforms and proprietary tech will make these vehicles cheaper and more competitive, probably forcing Tesla to fundamentally reappraise their business strategy
i mean but why in the world would you consider a questionable looking Audi over the Tesla? i don't know, just my opinion lol 🤷🏽♀️
So true.
Really you think the Tesla bubble roof looks good. Actually got to look around one yesterday it looks weird and i wonder how those doors will fair in the low ceilings of your local multi storey car park or your average home garage oops.
Firstly, the interior in the Audi is much more premium than the Tesla.
Second, the exterior (especially the back) is sportier and classier looking than the Tesla (I feel the taillights on the Tesla actually take away from its minimalistic approach).
Third, it actually has usable doors in a medium to small parking lot or underground parking, as the guy above said.
the doors will open in underground parking areas
Guy Tothill of course they will. But if the ceiling is low they will open in the ceiling (they will smash into the ceiling).
Love the way Vicky is riding
But full of FUD.
A base etron is 71000 ponds ( 83000€) but the digital mirror is optional = 2000€ after the a pack that cost 6000€ and then the color red is optimal to 1200€.. So a total of 79000 pounds !!
But which trim was the model X. I was confused saying 440 hp as performance version has 440 kW = over 600 hp !!!.
Torque same as etron?? P version allmost a 1000 nm, yes yes.
So drag race would have torn the Audi apart.
And how in heaven's name did Johny forget about the Frunk. In this configuration its bigger than the trunk ( sort off).
In Fully charged Johnny knows every little detail.
Price Belgium 103000€ MX LR with 6 seat conf and no FSD vs 93000€ ( S line with digital mirrors and metalic - no other options ) but so so so many more options that price will be skyhigh and near price MX P. At Bruxelles carshow etron a wopping 120000€ car with every possible option.
If you check the 1000km Test of Tesla Björn in Norway, you will see that both are the same on long distance. Both reached 10:20h. The eTron compensates the low Range with its great charging curve (you can see it on Fastned) It loads from 10% to 80% nearly flat at 150kw. The Charging Test of Björn also shows this excellent charging...no one offers this like the eTron. The Teslas drop after a high peak at about 50%.
Was the Tesla in it performance mode ? Just wondering cause they didn’t mention that even during the drag race.
This is not the top of the line model. There is no launch control.
She missed the ICE downshifting engine braking in the Tesla? Did nobody tell her how to drive with regenerative braking?
Regen is not as natural as engine braking and you can't control it like the way engine braking can. I've driven both and I get what she is talking about.
I have also driven both, and to me “natural” would be a combination of the right regen setting and adapting to a new way of driving. Regen was weird and did feel unnatural to me at first, but after a few hours I absolutely loved it and have done so ever since - also when doing a bit of “fun” driving. :-) I am not a race driver, though, so I can’t call myself an expert on the matter. Her assessment just didn’t seem correct nor fair to me.
Don't get me wrong. Regen is great especially going down hill. Journalist don't get that much time in a press car that allows them to discover very bit of detail so it is logical that they don't know everything about the Tesla and Audi.
This is true for all cars they tested and not a bias towards Tesla only.
@@lucaslkoefoed Regen does not slow the car down quickly enough when doing a track lap. So what she is talking about makes complete sense. With gears you're literally able to shift down and scrub speed right before the bend. Regen braking doesn't allow that and it also doesn't allow you to control the amount of deceleration. Yes, you're not a race driver. So listen to one.
What are you talking about? These SUVs are BEVs
New technology is always expensive. The wealthier people are willing to take more risks so the masses will benefit later. Remember how expensive the first microwave ovens and Plasma TV’s.
Did you lower the suspension in the Model X and put in sport mode?
Apparently the X wasn't even the performance version? Didn't watch to the end.
Dieter Zerressen try watching
elvistwatty The Tesla won but it really isn’t that close,and i’m’ sorry but the test was still biased.
The Tesla was more expensive though. Going for a more expensive version would be a poor choice for a comparison. Not that it makes a difference now that you can't buy the e-tron due to battery supply issues.
People in the comments be like:
The Tesla was crippled! They didn't go for the performance model! Bias media!
and I'm here happy that the competition is finally going toe-to-toe with Tesla one way or another. Even Elon Musk wants other manufacturers to to produce more exciting EVs.
fyi, Jonny Smith is quite an EV fan. See: Fully Charged Show and Car Pervert.
Elon always wanted others to make kick ass Evs. The reason he got on board at Tesla was due to his disappointment with the efforts of others in the EV segment.
But the dont go Toe to toe with Tesla. Tesla is still years ahead off anybody els.
Funny how literally all other car reviewers I've seen said the model x is not really comfy but the e-tron very much so... how come?
Tesla has had deal with recaro bor seatsbut seems design and manufacturing of those fails in terms of quality. Why is that i have no clue since they should be as good as any other recaro seats🤔
Maybe because Tesla doesn’t pay for reviews.
E-tron anytime
haha, e-tron is anywhere from 5.3 to 5.5 seconds - bunch of youtube videos
and basic Model X is 4.2-4.4 - again, just google it
how you got them so closely matched in your run... I guess we will never know :)
maximua78 Those are 0-100 (0-60) times, not 1/4 mile drag race. Big difference. That said, there drag test was hot garbage.
Seriously the level of fake in this editing to make it look like they are both as fast is insulting to their viewers intelligence.
the air suspension on the Tesla was in high instead of low... that does make a difference
I'm pretty sure the Tesla has a launch control as well. Probably not even the performance version. Lame
meaningless competition without lowering the suspension
Why was ludicrous mode not used?
What abaut ludcrus mode?
5 ER another car more expensive
Was it the p100d? Because the last time I saw model x was winning drag race against Lamborghini
Tesla was 75 kWh version, not even 100 kWh.
aditya kontikal P100D would be way to expensive in this comparison.
And after that the tesla overheated and accelerated like my grandma.
Why is the Model X air suspension set to high?
the usually do that to make the teslas lose
@@rodrigosousa9049 Tesla should add a drag mode, that displays drag mode in the display to make it easy. Same as with chill mode so no journalist can test model 3 with chill mode enabled, because its written with big letters on the screen.
@@TschingisTube ahahahah that would be smart ahhahahahah
Haven't had a chance to drive the e-Tron but got to drive a Model X P100D. The one thing I noticed was that the suspension was really quite rough for a big SUV with air suspension. Good for sporty driving but just for everyday street commuting (which is what you do 98% of the time) I think it could be a fair bit softer.
They fixed that it in the newer cars with the Raven edition, which is why they were impressed with the comfort of the car during the test... It is very comfy and in sport mode will corner much harder. I'm not convinced it would lose to an etron unless its left in high mode.
@@ajcsanders As far as I understood the one in this video was not even a performance model, just a dual motor. That's why the drag race was so close.
@@MarkVinewood the Performance Model is in a whole different league (and price) with sub 3 second 0-60 and Lamborghini-/Urus beating 1/4 mile time. The normal Long Range X is a lot faster accelerating and cornering with sports damping and suspension set to Very Low. To be fair, it's not obvious that by having the suspension lower you would get more acceleration. Tesla does this to protect the front axles from getting damaged when the car rides on the default higher mode.
Lol those Audi side mirrors are the worst things I’ve ever seen. How on earth did that get approved!??
Don't bother, they are optional. If go for Audi you can stay with conventional
I really wish they would stop putting fake grills on electric cars, its obvious af thats its fake and looks ugly af.
theyre not fake. electric cars still need air flow because they have both a radiator and condenser.
@@Zjwex the intake vent for that is located beneath license plate for both cars.
On the Model X, it also has small air intakes next to the fog lights, and it has an air intake behind the opening where the emblem is.
this is a very inefficient design because rather than having a large grill allowing the radiator and condenser to remove heat efficiently, they've opted to have multiple smaller grills. this is the perfect example of form over function.
especially since the model x has such reliability issues, having a more complex setup means more things that can and will inevitably break.
I have serviced many model X's.
You can put a suit on a goat, but it's still a goat... Tesla won the competition, but as a brand it'll never beat Audi (or Merc or BMW).
Or Porsche.
@@bfr74vz80 obviously
but lost the race by a whopping 6secs
Already did
@@peterp4753 🤣 alright then
Might be worth not having an advert just before the end as most people would click off. Only as I went to read the comments and it then did the last clip of the video I ended up watching it.
Might it be possible that she improved her timing on the racetrack? As she better got to know it?
Ludicros you know?
smile Thats only in the top model, this was not the top model
Plus they didn't have 20-30 mins to spare to wait up for the batteries to heat up
Stefan Petrov There’s a reason the performance variant Can obliterate that Audi in a drag. And it’s because it can heat the batteries. Would you rather NOT have that feature?
@@bob15479 Read this:
jalopnik.com/car-and-drivers-test-between-the-porsche-taycan-and-tes-1841577600
See if the Porsche needs time to warm up. Pay attention to how slow the Tesla becomes after two runs, meanwhile the Porsche runs the same repeatedly
Wheres tiff when ya need him
@lovecars
Don't need'm.
@@haidersohail1649 annk but they should not have let him go the bastards
@@13coyote13 dont be stupid
Audi for me! The build quality and design is much better....the Tesla looks like an egg.
A track battle with electric suv’s? WTF. Just do a real world test.
Superchargers are everywhere with lots of stalls
Hey!
So that they can charge at a slower rate than the Audi
They really were trying hard to make the e-Tron look good. Lol! Does anyone really care what a 5,000 lb SUV can do on a track?! I certainly don't. Also, how come there was no mention of the frunks? They also could have at least shown a picture of a 5-seat Model X for comparison.
Then there's no video comparison of the Audi's driver assistance features vs Tesla's Autopilot. Even more surprising is no mention of Audi's actually very fast charging times using 150kW DC chargers - faster than the Model X due to its flat charge profile, nor did they do a real world range comparison.
Overall, 5/10 for a comparison. Pretty lame and not fair for either vehicle.
Well…Similarly who cares about Tesla cars being fast going 0-60 and then eventually getting losing acceleration and losing to other EVs…Moreover Teslas can pull fast 0-60 just once in a while during to battery overheating issues…!
Great video!
And yet again two rather new cars, packed with tech, where the taillights are disabled when the DRL mode is active = fail!
When are OEM's going to learn?!
I just ran my own permanent feed to the rear lights when the ignition is on just like on the old Volvo's now i have DRL front and rear.
@@chrisredfield3240 how? Hardwired or via software? Volvo had and has this right for years/decades. My V40 DRL was illumination front (not lowbeam!) and back too!
@@gmcminitruck hardwired i think some VAG cars can do it in the software. Mine is just a ford mondeo. I used a load of diodes so the ECU does not see any abnormalities. It's so dull in the UK most of the time the back lights may as well stay on.
@@chrisredfield3240 exactly for that reason.
Well done to both of you, that was a fun video! What car would you pair with a Model S Performance? I would love to see that video, Cheers!
The track test was pointless.. Who will drive does cars on a track?
Wouldn't be saying that if the Tesla had won I'd wager but whoah! 6 seconds a lap qucker around a small track, thats a hammering
6-10 that means nothing. Those cars will never be on track in real life.. The test should include more practical stuff not a track test
Drag race is pointless too.. Electric seems to have found it's niche in commuting.
You also forgot to mention the frunk in the tesla, which is very large and the Audi does not have
Wrong. The Audi does have a Frunk. Go and do a google search and you will find videos of the frunk so not sure if you know what you are talking about.
248 miles range E-Tron @ 8:50 ,I don't think so
The Tesla is only 6 seconds behind on a 64 seconds lap.
You hobbled the Tesla by keeping in the slower suspension setting, you lower it to go faster. You guys are professional car journalists, you might want to read the manual.
I drove E-Tron on a snow. Electric quattro is amazing, when i turned off all the controls i was able to do same things as i did with my 08STI. You can go sideways so easily...
I think you made the wrong choice. The model x has been finicky with things like door handles and those falcon doors. I have to believe Audi have the long term livability details figured out.
Richard Wright So far Audi’s sideview cameras have been problematic, among other glitches. So, no they don’t have it all figured out.
Props to Audi for beating the X in the track. I honestly expected the X to beat it, so, kudos. However, that's not gonna last long. The X was Tesla's second car, and now with the Y (their fourth car) I think the rest of the makers are in trouble. Everyone else is still on their first iteration, and Tesla with the Y is on their fourth, soon to be fifth (cybertruck).
And that's not mentioning the upcoming "plaid mode" model S, which is going to be a monster on the nerdberger.
Interesting times, that's for sure!