1,400 Mile VinFast VF8 Road Trip! Charging Is Still A Mixed Bag In The Midwest
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- Jordan tries a road trip in the VinFast for the first time! Over 1,400 miles and a great mix of charging stations and experiences led to quite the journey. Quirks and bugs along the way, but the VF8 did indeed complete the quest.
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Whenever someone says good morning in my head, I answered back good morning Vietnam! The irony was not lost on me that the VinFast is in fact from Vietnam, and this will be what makes me chuckle for the rest of my day
Tks 😍
Cool video. My old neck of the woods. This 650mi stretch of hwy70 I’ve done too many times to count back in my youth, usually having to fill up only twice in parents’ gas sipper Toyota Camry. I wouldn’t drive my VF8 on this stretch now because the charging infrastructure doesn’t look too good, but as a daily driver it is my most favorite car I’ve own
I hope vinfast watches this so they can fix things.
Chúng tôi còn non trẻ đơn nhiên sẻ không hoàng hảo nhưng chúng tôi đang từng bước để tạo ra chiếc xe tốt nhất và luôn lắng nghe phản hồi của các bạn và sẻ khắc phục tốt nhất có thể, xin cảm ơn
I love smokeless and odorless cars ❤❤❤
Vinfast EVs particularly VF8 and VF8 Plus, are nowadays not new. Vinfast has launched its first model in the US since December 2023, which is now almost 2 years. Slowly but solidly, Vinfast has been an established brand in North America. How do I know? Personally, I have been driving a VF8 Plus for over 6 months, without any problems. The EV has been as reliable as expected, safely getting me from point A to point B. Even automotive industry specialist Sandy Munro said when he first test drove a Vinfast in September 2022, "At the end of the day people would be happy with what VF8 offered." He added, The VF8 [is] as very stable, with the driving dynamics similar to that of a BMW. And Vinfast particularly VF8 and VF8 Plus has stood the test of time after 3 years in America!
I have a soft spot for Vinfast because I feel like while they made a mistake in releasing their first vehicle in the US before it was ready, they got a million click bait videos with names like "I drive the worst new EV on the planet." I feel like they got a raw deal and I point people to Model S articles and videos circa 2013 when Tesla was struggling to get on their feet. The remarkable thing is that they have listened and tackled so many of the early problems that people had with their vehicles. There is still work to be done and some problems with hardware will not be solved until newer models are released but so many companies are just completely tone deaf.
@@meandmyEVexactly
@@meandmyEV When it comes to EVs, I don't pay attention to those "click bait videos" because none of them actually drives the vehicles. In fact, driving an EV for a few hours is totally different from driving it for the whole week. Also when it comes to my family's safety and my own, I don't have a soft spot for any vehicles, particularly EVs; and I am driving a VF8 Plus! Before trading my old hybrid car for the EV, I had done my own research on Vinfast and VF8. According to reports, the VF8 model made its first debut in January 2022, and it was Kim Java in California, who had test driven a VF8 Plus City Edition for a whole week, not just a few hours, with her family including her husband and 3 little kids in the EV. It clearly proved that VF8 was indeed a family/kid friendly electric SUV. At the same time Vinfast offered a promotion of $249/month to lease a VF8 with zero down. I took advantage of the promotion, and I have been driving a VF8 Plus since then or almost 7 months to be exact. My VF8 Plus has been great so far. Driving the VF8 is a joy, not to mention Vinfast's incomparable service.
December 2023 was 9 months ago? where is the 2 or 3 years coming from?
@@GrillarGaming I believed it was a typo because as far as I know, Vinfast began to export the first batch of VF8 to the US in December 2022, not December 2023, which means it's been almost 2 years or 21 months to be exact. Also, according to my research, the VF8 model made its first debut in Vietnam in January 2022, which means it's been roughly 3 years or exactly 32 months.
37:00 i smiled ;)))
I mean u can speak, u can use voice commands (most of us forget that this car has this function).
Something like: hey Vinf, navigate me here or there, navigate me to the nearest charging station or something. Or some voice commands to quickly turn on or off some car features in the settings, in drive aids.
Vinfast company listens very carefully to customer feedback, with a 10-year warranty period, the quality of this car company is certainly very confident. We hope that customers will give fair reviews so that Vinfast company can improve better and better.
I have also become a fan of EV road tripping and I drive a Bolt EUV, which I'm sure everyone here knows charges really slowly. I drove it on a trip that was 900+ miles each way. I have access to my wife's gas vehicle but I wanted to try it just once. Now I can't wait to do it again. It is pretty nerdy and I enjoy the planning but surprisingly I enjoyed the stops the most. I feel like 40 minutes is the max that I feel comfortable stopping. 20-25 minutes to use the bathroom and get a snack. Another 10 or so to wander around to see what weird stuff is happening at the Walmart and/or truck stop, and then it takes about 10 minutes of sitting in the car messing with my phone and checking out the next stop until I actually get bored and want to leave. That is enough time in the Bolt to charge enough to drive another 100-120 miles.
Exactly!
What I’m getting from watching a lot of these videos lately is that it’s hard to judge the car on its charging speed, because it could just be the charger limiting the charge. It’s more about the poor charging infrastructure than it is the car itself in a lot of instances. I don’t think the Vinfast would be as bad as he was making it seem if the chargers themselves weren’t limiting the charging.
@@LifeAfterLosing I was thinking the same and that there are a lot more variables and volatility in the way chargers work than people expect. The difference in battery temperature, air temperature, small differences in the way each dispenser is wired, changes in the incoming grid power etc all make a difference in charging rate. Even a vehicle that charged prior to your arrival could make a difference. It isn’t surprising that you can plug into one dispenser and get 120 kw and then another a few minutes later and get 90 kw at more or less the same state of charge.
True, except the VF8 also charges poorly.
Bạn có biết ở việt nam vinfast đang dựng những trạm sạc siêu nhanh 30phút sạc được 80% pin thiết nghĩ vinfast nên đầu tư những trạm sạc siêu nhanh ở mỹ và canada
Thanks Jordan, for some reason I like the VF8 and I own a M3. I think it is because I like the look of the SUV but I also find it interesting of how a first generation EV performs. I do hope the VF3 comes to market for you. Is there any chance Out of Spec can get there hands on a VF9 to test out. All I have found is suspect TH-camrs favored by VinFast to make videos on their cars. As for the company VF8 yes please on the camp mode test. How about competition between Tesla, VinFast and any other brands on a side by side overnight challenge on maintaining temperature inside the car and how much energy used in an 8 hour test. Thanks for posting Jordan.
Pretty color indeed
Love these vinfast experiences.
Just took a 1,000 mile road trip through Washington State and Canada, the difference in the charging infrastructure was night and day, in Canada I was never more than 50 miles from a charger, even through mountain passes (had two small hiccups, a gorgeous restop with a full array of chargers had no power when I pulled in, and the next stop an idiot with a Mitsubishi PHEV literally took the charger while I was in the process of activating it, but even with those, the next charger was still close enough that I comfortably just cruised to the next stop). Crossed the border, and went almost 200 miles before getting to a fast charger (thankfully I topped up in the small town at the border crossing before coming in). Grand Coulee City/Dam didn't have any fast chargers! A tourist destination built around a literal power plant and no chargers! That said, the US EA 350kw charger was by far the fastest charger I got to use, worked perfect and brought my rental Genesis G80 from 5% to 88% in 26 minutes.
Cool shots of those wind turbines above the morning fog!
Great espisode, you guys need do another version with VF9 2024
Theres a guy in canada who did a roadtrip series in the VF8 did use the Tesla superchargers with magic dock so i guess the can can use tesla's chargers now
Magic dock is open to any CCS vehicle.
Thanks for a great road trip video again. Many effort to do this. You must love this car after this really long trip although you are the Tesla's lovers. 2024 Plus trim must be a lot cooler in term of materials, build quality, power, suspension, and ADAS. I did not see you use voice comment during the trip. Hey Vinfast or Hey Alexa
Maybe the Flying J that is right off the interstate at Salina will get an EvGo station!
Another great road trip,shame about Blink 182,Vinfast software definitely needs work ASAP,cheers fella 👍
Funny you complain about it charging so poorly when it looks like it holds a higher rate than the Mach-E, Lightning, anything Japanese, and most of the non-truck GMs.
@@bfvader that’s what I thought as well. The charging speed is not that bad in comparison to anything other than the more expensive Hyundai/Kia products and Tesla. But if you are comparing it to a Model Y, this would seem slow and that is its direct competitor. But it seems like the biggest issue is with the chargers not holding the charge and not the Vinfast reducing the rate of charge.
@@LifeAfterLosingvinfast is more expensive here in US , absolutely not worth the price
@@Ongnoiputin02 không có tiền mua thì ngắm đi em. Gào khóc nhiều làm gì
@@LifeAfterLosing- you could add VWs and Volvo/Polestar too which all avg the same or better as Model Y on a 10-80%
exactly...
The Fisker Ocean seemed to have less problems than the Vinfast. It's too bad they also didn't have a mega conglomerate funding them.
31:56 That's odd. In my experience, that's the exception rather than the rule for EA's Interstate sites. Almost every EA I use when traveling is less than a 1/4 mile off the freeway.
Well done! Really enjoyed watching your trip mate!
Gut wrenching confession. I’m so sorry for you blink 182 loss
Wow he was in Erie Colorado? Too bad it was so foggy. I hear it’s beautiful there. 🤷
Nothin better than road trippin th beautiful VF8 w/Jordan FRANCIE and Pimpin da back seat RAFRIKI 👍
At 40:15, remember the rest area also has employees, so the Level 2 could be useful for an employee working at one of the stores in the rest area.
I've been at this stop many times. The only time I see it in use is when hybrids are charging there at the level 2.
@@TWatcher_sure, but employees could use it. Probably not many EVs yet for workers in that area. But build it and they might come.
Hey Jordan excellent video so far. Did you have a chance to talk to the EA tech in Salina to ask what exactly he was doing?
I don't think I've ever seen an Electrify America station derate with my Ioniq 6 pulling 240 kw, in the middle of the summer, in the blazing heat. I really do think it's just the Vinfast derating itself.
That Tesla Supercharger you stopped at in Overland Park always busy ... and I'm a big fan of the free Evergy chargers for my Model 3.
32:30 oh fond memories of Salina Kansas ! Wheee they shut the whole charger down while I was charging! Didn’t say anything to me I was clearly the only one sitting in curb charging 😢🙄
❤good beautiful car🎉❤😊
This is another reminder how far ahead Tesla is with their EV tech and charging infrastructure.
Great video Jordan. Love your patience and persistence with testing charging infrastructure. I live in rural NE IA. Where nothing but old blink chargers exist. I drive maverick hybrid XLT 24 which in my opinion has hardly any ADAS. Nothing compared to my 19 Kia Niro which I traded in on it. Lightning is too big for me size and $$$. Waiting. 😢
Vinfast Number 1 🎉❤
So are you or Francie taking car to Service Centre Jordan?! Impressive EV to me anyway.
I charged in Burlington Colorado lol on my road trip in my leaf this past May 2024 🎉😉
Hello from a fellow Kansas Citian!
nice car
Love motoring videos !
THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO, GREATINGS FROM ITALY ;)
😊😊
Turbs on turbs on turbs! 🍃💨🍃💨
charging will be a mixed bag, probably for the next 10 years
when you look at driver attention sensor and rotate the wheel it looks like the wheel is on eccentric and now I can't unsee it...
6:10 Jordan, always Left Lane Hogging?
"turns a lot of head" --- Especially in KC.
🎉🎉🎉🎉 ❤vinfast
I don’t think the UV coatings on the glass is great. I was getting so cooked on a recent trip I had to stop to apply sunscreen. The ergonomics are also a bit strange seating wise.
I was also getting derated charging with 40c ambient temp and mid 40c battery temp.
1:29:50 The ChargePoint Express Plus units are definitely capable of pushing 500 A @ 400 V (where the 200 kW rating comes from). Mercedes chose them as a hardware provider for that reason. The fact that you saw similar low power events at several EA chargers at a similar SOC makes me think that the lower charging speed issues are with the VF8 rather than the chargers themselves. Vinfast says they use both NMC and LFP, but I'm not sure about the U.S. models. That charging behavior is something I would expect more from LFP though (massive voltage sag while charging when the battery level drops below ~30%).
LFP is used to supply main battery of VF3. The others are all NMC techs (SDI & CATL )
@@quangvinh1153 Good to know. If the VF8 uses NMC, then the charging issues could be thermal based. I've never seen the H+S cables throttle that way (it's either 100 A or 500 A consistently), but those were older, Gen 1 Signet that can have flaky power modules. So the issues Jordan encountered were likely a combination of old EA hardware and some inconsistent charging profile/thermals with the VF8.
@@newscoulomb3705 Vinfast is designed with factory industrial safety standards, including secure internet connection & easy maintain & fire principles. The owner alway wish charge as the fastest as posible, but physical limitation of electric system, as wire - connector, can cause to catch fire when the heat is over. The biggest of Vinfast product is bus, heavy vehicle with main battery 213Kwh and carry 50-60 passengers. Until now, no one bus is catched fire, even 150-250-360Kwh chargers setup for months.
@@quangvinh1153 Sure. I'm not judging. I think the VF8's charging rate is good enough for a lot of people, but I don't think it's just the chargers that were broken.
Jordan was trying to understand why the charging behaved that way, and he was thinking it could only be the charger. As you noted, charging is complicated, so the VF8 could have been slowing the charging rate for a different reason.
@@newscoulomb3705 Jordan tried to drain Vf8 main battery below 20% and below 5%, The battery was so hot and need to be reduced before he pushed super charger gun. But he did not do that. When Vf8 was charged, Jordan didn't turn Camp Mode (using main HV battery or charger gun to supply AC ). So, battery heat is the most important value to make charging power rate. i think charging rate diagram will be figured out the best for all.
makes me glad I got a Tesla! When would you estimate that public charging catches up to Tesla Superchargers?
Ten years guarantee 🎉
Hey Jordan, did you ever get a loud bang coming from the battery area? When I rented the VF8 I had it done to me couple of times and it was scary feeling
This happened to my Tesla Model 3 occasionally. I had it since 2018 and it started days after I purchased it and it still happened occasionally. In fact, last week, it happened twice. it used to scared me and I asked the Tesla tech years ago and he said it's normal. So this isn't just Vinfast that it happened.
Oh pl- ease
For Out of Spec staff that have first hand experience with Vinfast, If you were in the market for an electric SUV, would you buy this car over it's competition with your own money for your own and your family's personal use?
Hell no
VF3 is not suitable for US cuz its max speed is 100km/h which is abt 60mile/h. It s definitely a beautiful car but not for US customer
VF3 if delivery to US is definitely different than the version in VN mate. It will fall on $ 20k range with tax deduct to 13.5k.
It is for around the downtown
Vinfast vf8
Jordan tell FRANCIE today a M3 off white today turned from left lane into Burger King parking lot when he saw on Goodman th TTTESLA CHARGERS back curb . Dark blue model Y an phsycadelic model 3 Chargin…. Y on 2b an 3 on 6a. In ur knowledge opinion what combinations would be best ???
When I got to speaker they told me “ U RULE “ . “ NAW I ain’t got one TTTESLA charger an u got 869 !!! SO U RULE!!! Ha
that EV charging is pretty expensive for a roadtrip.$30-40 to only drive a little more then 200 miles adds up fast, especially when you consider the time you waste sitting there
I mean, gas would add up fast too. Road trips aren’t cheap!
Yes but at home it cost less than $10 and then you're traveling $250 or more miles and this is 90% of usage
The only time EVS are more expensive or the same as gas is when your road tripping and paying retail
@@electric-rideshare "It's expensive to EV road trip" isn't ignoring the charge at home benefits
@@BillyONeal umm yes it is, if you are not subtracting the expensive road trip from your daily savings. I think it just needs to be made clear to the new EV drivers that the savings from local driving (charging at home)make the occiasion "expensive" road trip charging insignificant in the big picture.
Are we saying the same thing?
Spring Roll doesn't like you badmouthing her.
Its new name is De-electrify America.
Jordan any updates?
Nice❤
I feel like if you slow down to 60, or 55 MPH, you will go much further than 267 miles.
My 2005 Hyundai Sonata gets 25 MPG at 65 MPH, and 34 MPG at 55 MPH.
My 2024 Mitsubishi Mirage gets 47-50 MPG at 65 MPH, and 60-64 MPG at 55 MPH.
Slower speeds help a ton, 70 MPH isn't good for hypermiling, or hyperelectricing?
65-70mph is the sweet spot for EVs especially the VF8. It's not very efficent
@@simplygregsterev I kind of doubt that, as you have to push against a lot more air, which does not help.
@@extralock1045 well considering I have a VF8… the speeds I quoted work well for good efficiency and time, including my other EVs. That being said where I live roadtrip charging isnt an issue so you can go 115-120kph. Yea sitting at 55mph would get more efficiency but then you will never get anywhere. 65-75mph or 105-110kph works well
@@simplygregsterev 55-60 MPH still gets you quite far, 1 mile a minute. (:
I drove from Lake Elsinore, California, to Tampa, Florida, and back, and went 55-60 MPH. Got about 500 to 600 miles per day. It was nice and relaxing. I find if I go faster I get mentally tired quick, and things start to annoy me.
@@extralock1045 totally with you on that. My brain starts to hurt
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Oh gosh it’s almost two hours
Why use charge points just use the tesla ev charge adapter for none tesla ev's
Two broken stations: the Chargepoint omni port is meaningless when the charger is broken. Chargepoint infrastructure is constantly broken and nobody at Chargepoint really cares.
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Glad to see that EA stations are still just as bad as they were a year ago. 🙄
As electric prices go up free charging will go away
The charging curve is just a random integer generator
Hi
I kind of enjoy EV roadtrips less than in ICE vehicles, but just because I try to stretch the EVs to their last "drop". And with ICE, I just take a break whenever I want.
But this get's better whenever I drive some route multiple times in a same car. but the first time with a different car, I always want to get the most out of the vehicle.
@ 1:03 : 1 2 KICK IT. !!!!!!
Why don’t you guys use car scanner and an OBD reader to keep an eye on the battery pack temp? That’d give you a lot better insight on the potential reasons why charging performance isn’t what you expect.
It seems the Vinfast is one major software overhaul away from being a perfectly adequate car. Not a great car. Just adequate. Hope they continue to improve things. Please get OTA deployed.
Vin(update)fast
Vinfast uses Here WeGo map. not very accurate if you ask me, I always use Google Map instead :)
lol. It is attached with what3words. very accurate. Nokia Map still survive until now.
@@gocnhinvutru the route is usually correct. but it doesnt show updated route if the route is blocked by construction. or not accurate traffic level. what3words in the map are mostly spamming bs ( at least in VN)
How do you not freeze with temp set at 61F? That's like 16C :O Anything less than 70F and I'd be wearing a jacket at least. I tend to keep 73-75F when I'm driving.
reliable EV car
first
btw please bring back more ev roadtrip races that end up being like 4 hours long, those are the best, and also please make more vids on the hummer ev, I have a Hummer EV SUT 2x and it is great!
@ 1:25:18 Hey FRANCIE help a brother out geeze
asking Internet 3/4G Mobilephone.
She did tell you what will not work or did you just not show the videos of her learning the quirks of this adventures car 😅
While I enjoy these videos you really shouldn't be filming with your phone while driving. Even if a car has driving assist features its not safe.
Neither is tugging on SUPERMANS cape spitting in the……
get the update
Tôi đã đăng ký kênh của bạn. Đến từ Việt Nam
18:05 even at 42¢ per kWh it's still substantially more expensive per mile than a comparable gas SUV
Only when fast charging on a road trip, which isn't something most people do regularly
For DC fast yes, but he also mentioned he paid 16¢ kWh at one point, on DC nonetheless. Point is, most don't, or shouldn't, use these units often.... charge at home or work.
Thanks for Jordan patient with Vinfast VF8 eco 2023.
All you seem to do want EVs to fail!
Are homeowner's insurance OK with charging EV's in home garages (that said, your garage is awesome)? Dogs, trampolines, pools, etc. are problems. Can't believe EV's aren't also issues . . huge cost drivers.
Yikes
a miserable car on a miserable charging network. come on other companies, get your shit together!
My Rivian T does better then 2.3.
All EV car better than vinfast
Combining elegance and luxury kislux
I don't think it does any damage to just pop the handle on an AC charger, rather than pressing "stop charging." I don't do that with DC charging but even with that, I would guess that a solid state device cuts off charging before the contactors can respond. Would be great to get a real expert to discuss these on the podcast or something.
I’m happy for you when you can finish the trip safely , you’re very brave to test this car . I don’t know , this car is too dangerous for me , I can’t count my life on it , hope vinfast do better in the future
ignore him! he is just a useless guy against the development of the nation that abandoned a traitor like him.
ignore him! he is just a useless guy against the development of the nation that abandoned a traitor like him.
Vietnamese living in Cali again. Vietnam war ended up since 1975. Please. It is just a car. It is not Communist!
@@gocnhinvutruwow I see many Vietnamese crying here
Why do you think they cry? cry? Lmao
You crazy , I never go below 20-30 percent .
He is testing the limitation of this car
You crazy. Always go below 20% when you can when you road trip. Get Max charging speed for the max duration
Too many effing ads!!!
Funny if you had a combustion car you’d be home doing you work there and would not need a laptop fight crap chargers.
It’s ok I do the same I have all evs and no gas cars
I don't understand, you refuse to learn or deliberately do not understand when providing such information. This is an older VF8 with an EPA of 209 miles
Not sure what you’re referring to. This is a 2024 with ~267 miles of EPA range.
I get so aggravated watching you or Francie road trip this car. I don't know how you can stand driving this PoS vehicle. Since you are content creators, I guess you have to put up with it. I wouldn't take this car even if it was free. I really commend you both for your patience. You must be saints. 😁
Only idiots would make such a stupid comment like "Oh i wouldn't take this car even if it's free". Dummy
Yes . Dear president .
Lol...
Just because it comes from Vietnam makes you so upset?
Such a nonsense and idiotic comment. Oh i wouldn't get it for free. Stupid comment. Keep driving your rickshaw then
Found someone who is clearly never road tripped a Chevy Bolt lol
Typical ID4 owner. This Vinfast would drive me nuts. Big no for me.