BLACK PANTHER: Wakanda Forever BREAKDOWN and EASTER EGGS You Missed

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    Black Panther: Wakanda Forever tells the heartbreaking story of Wakanda reeling form the death of their king, T'Challa. It also introduces the first mutant, Namor, and expands the Marvel Cinematic Universe into the undersea kingdom of Talocan. In this breakdown, we reveal all of the Marvel Easter Eggs, unleash a ton of theories on what will happen next, and I think we even spotted your mom.
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    The movie’s backbone is symbolism associated with gods and the elements-earth, wind, air and [avatar, fire]. Both the Wakandans and the Talocanians draw their strength from vibranium-and the vibranium fed plants that imbue them with superpowers. The first black panther, Bashenga, was led to the heart shaped herb by the panther goddess bast, that herb grows in the ground, and the Wakandan vibranium is inside of a mountain. Making Wakanda a nation more closely associated within the earth.
    But the Talocanians have a similar, parallel origin story. When their people were threatened by colonialism, the god of the rain, Chaac, led a shaman into the water, to endow all of their people with the ability to become of the water. So talocan obviously is a nation based around water.
    Yes, but, they are also a culture that controls the air. Chaac was the god of rain-and rain is water that falls from the sky. In ancient Mayan history, it’s said that Kukulkan worked side-by-side with Chaac to bring rain to the lands. Kukulkan would fly in front, signaling the upcoming rain. And remember, the Talocanians think Namor is a god [clip]. In Mayan mythology, Kulkulkhan would fly before the god Chaac, warning of rain. We’ll talk more about this mythology later, but this explains Namor’s ability to fly-his people are based around the sky meeting the sea.
    And this is where it gets interesting, because Wakanda is also a culture based around fire. Unlike Talocan, they have advanced electrocity, which runs on water-a kind of harnessed fire. And Shuri is the most brilliant mind in Wakanda-she is the master of this technological fire.
    But the first scene in the movie shows her losing control of this power. She cannot use the technology to save her brother’s life.
    There’s a crucial scene early in the movie, where her mother wants her to burn her ceremonial funeral clothes, as a way to let go of her grief. And Shuri says that she is worried that if she does that, then the fire of her grief will burn the world. IN other words, she’s internalizing her rage-the fire within her soul.
    Fire was also heavily used in conjunction with Erik Killmonger in the first film. He burns the heart shaped herbs, symbolic of his desire to burn down the world [clip]. Shuri feels grief and rage similar to her cousin’s. Erik found his father’s body in their apartment, so this was the moment where his rage was born. This is the money he could never move p[ast. So, this is why he sees his dad’s spirit in this same apartment.
    Shuri sees Killmonger for the same reason. She bears that same rage. She’s mad at Killmonger, and herself-and she sees him in the room where her mother died-the trauma she cannot overcome. So Killmonger lights this room on fire, to show how her rage would consume the kingdom in eternal war.
    And here’s the thing-we all know that water douses fire. The only way fire can beat water is if it’s boiled-and that requires tools, or technology. Shuri wins by harnessing the technological fire of electricity through a modified ship, to heat up Namor-essentially boiling away his water. And fire is how she finally defeats him, by setting off an explosion- a fire that burns out of control.
    So as we go through this video, you’ll see these themes of the elements, and the gods, recur over and over again.

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    • @3200sam
      @3200sam ปีที่แล้ว +2

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    • @keach1983
      @keach1983 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Isn't namor fireproof according to the comics?

    • @RG-df2lr
      @RG-df2lr ปีที่แล้ว

      Feathered serpent God. So a dragon? Kukulkan is huge and reminds me of Asian dragons. But of course I doubt Mayans and Aztecs used the word dragon. So it's just a matter of how Europeans decided to translate it.

    • @RG-df2lr
      @RG-df2lr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@keach1983 I believe so.. but I think because he was so dehydrated of water he was weakened.

    • @thetrasharoundmyplastic6342
      @thetrasharoundmyplastic6342 ปีที่แล้ว

      Riri is in the film cause her professor is Doom but his scene was cut.

  • @PopQuizPH
    @PopQuizPH ปีที่แล้ว +2005

    My favorite Chekov's gun moment: During the scene at Riri's dorm room, when she was threatening Shuri and Okoye, Riri was holding her heater then Shuri goes "so good luck defending yourself with your heater when that man with wings come to get you", it turns out the heater was his weakness

  • @nicholasleonardi8550
    @nicholasleonardi8550 ปีที่แล้ว +2306

    This was by far the quietest Marvel movie. There were full minutes where the theatre was silent...

    • @johnnycaker
      @johnnycaker ปีที่แล้ว +268

      Yup felt felt and notice that too, it worked for the moment every time

    • @iloveentertainment
      @iloveentertainment ปีที่แล้ว +204

      Rivals the silence after Thanos’ snap in Infinity War. A different kind of silence but a room of silence…

    • @TheNewEmpire777
      @TheNewEmpire777 ปีที่แล้ว +151

      Real life has no soundtrack.

    • @dnpchallenge
      @dnpchallenge ปีที่แล้ว +239

      Yes, and I’m grateful for it. Just glad it wasn’t goofy like Love & Thunder

    • @Xxbaesiaa
      @Xxbaesiaa ปีที่แล้ว +87

      Everyone was sniffling and then cheered at the end

  • @FrobieMangaka14
    @FrobieMangaka14 ปีที่แล้ว +316

    Also of note, the title card for Marvel Studios played wind noises, and Ramunda says "I can hear him in the wind" so the sound is also a tribute to Chadwick in itself

  • @francois-mariefilsgeorges6943
    @francois-mariefilsgeorges6943 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    A nice, but easy to miss Easter egg is that Nakia’s house on the beach is numbered 1804. This is a nod to Haiti’s Declaration of Independence on January 1st, 1804 at the end of the revolutionary war. The number 1804 comes up often in Haitian artistic works. Toussaint Louverture, however, died in prison in France in April 1803 and never saw his dream fulfilled. This remains a great homage to a remarkable, often forgotten man. I loved this movie and it’s small connections to my homeland. Wakanda forever!

    • @the_blackrenaissance
      @the_blackrenaissance ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I was gonna point out the same thing... And of course Tchalla Jr being called Toussaint after the Haitian revolutionary leader.

  • @taylorkozak9730
    @taylorkozak9730 ปีที่แล้ว +299

    One thing I haven't seen mentioned in any easter egg videos - at the end when Shuri and Riri are back in the lab saying their goodbyes, there is a brief glimpse of Shuri's feet and she's wearing the same "old school" sandals she mocked T'Challa for wearing in the first film. I thought that was a sweet touch to honor both her brother and tradition.

    • @sysrqstoic
      @sysrqstoic ปีที่แล้ว +12

      "What are those"

    • @brandonmoss7976
      @brandonmoss7976 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sysrqstoic I've really get that reference 😳😂😂😂🐸

  • @SoulBrothaMak
    @SoulBrothaMak ปีที่แล้ว +200

    Wakanda Forever had the best depiction of Haiti and Haitians in nearly any media that wasn't controlled by Haitians. ✊🏿 🇭🇹

    • @DarrylsB
      @DarrylsB ปีที่แล้ว +6

      agreed
      diaspora honored; Killmonger sought to unite and protect them
      loved the original and appropriate languages. Americans in general are so lazy not learning multiple languages and demanding people "Speak English!"

    • @mostmost1
      @mostmost1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wondered what Haitians would think of it.

    • @pslim68
      @pslim68 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes....and they pronounced it as Ayiti....the way it should be

    • @redturtle8117
      @redturtle8117 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DarrylsB i would have been so mad if the talokan people spoke english for this exact reason... just completely self centred

    • @Jiron127
      @Jiron127 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DarrylsB isn't it ironic how all the stuff with ye and kyrie, has happened during this movie?
      Ahayah is calling back Israel?

  • @ANas-xq3ly
    @ANas-xq3ly ปีที่แล้ว +84

    I must have shed a tear about 4 times throughout this movie.
    Maybe I'm just becoming an emotional old softie.

    • @mamoblack7188
      @mamoblack7188 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      thought i was the only one who shed tears in the movie

    • @tooslow4065
      @tooslow4065 ปีที่แล้ว

      no, just means you have a hard time telling real life from movies.

    • @ANas-xq3ly
      @ANas-xq3ly ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tooslow4065 sooo... Things like movies, music, television and art can't invoke an emotional response?

    • @buffythepapislayer
      @buffythepapislayer ปีที่แล้ว

      No I cried too

    • @belizelover21
      @belizelover21 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tooslow4065 Art invokes emotional responses. That's why we make it..

  • @OaklynMediaLLC
    @OaklynMediaLLC ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Can we all take a second to acknowledge how awesome the sound design of Namor's wings were? The rattle snake sound was amazing in IMAX!!!

    • @brandonmoss7976
      @brandonmoss7976 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I believe that's part of why they thought he was The feathered serpent King

  • @ChewyRocksandiscute
    @ChewyRocksandiscute ปีที่แล้ว +149

    Ugh Queen Romanda’s death was so sad! :( but so happy to know T’Challa had a kid before he passed with Nakia!

    • @kongwubba81
      @kongwubba81 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm am wondering how she died faced down in water after getting riri multiple feet out of the water. Did she decide to jump back in afterwards?

    • @idioticfun1901
      @idioticfun1901 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kongwubba81 the queen wasn't a smart woman.

    • @headtonix
      @headtonix ปีที่แล้ว

      Leave it up to bad plot writers

    • @mostmost1
      @mostmost1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kongwubba81 she crawled

    • @ogchadillac
      @ogchadillac ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@kongwubba81 I questioned that, too, and my guess is that she was underwater for a while carrying Riri back up. She used all of her strength to get Riri on stable ground, and by that point she collapsed from exhaustion. One final heroic move before going out. Just my guess though.

  • @thamurdm
    @thamurdm ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The water weakness was always a part of the Namor canon. I remember reading a comic over 30 years ago where he was tricked into jumping into a pool to refresh his strength, and it was a trap pool filled with alcohol, and it dried his skin even faster... And he was then defeated by the enemy and put in chains.

    • @vernonsanders9696
      @vernonsanders9696 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They did that in Spider- Man and His Amazing Friends episode Seven Little Super Heroes.

    • @j.swizzle1371
      @j.swizzle1371 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This also happened in an animated series way back in the day. After diving in he says,”This is not water! It’s alcohol!” I remember this as my cousin and I used to watch the cartoon and as we approached drinking age, whenever we drank together, one of us would say,”This is not water! It’s alcohol!”😂

    • @MyHandle4455
      @MyHandle4455 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was in a cartoon.

  • @williamdoherty7824
    @williamdoherty7824 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    My dude, you missed the cool reference to civil war when she says 'vengeance has consumed us, I will not let it consume our people' a nice repeat of tchalla's words to I think zero "vengeance has consumed you" I loved the line in both movies

  • @missolympiabinewski
    @missolympiabinewski ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Wins for MCU movie that produced the most tears out of me. Ironheart and even Ross didn't need to be in the movie but they have to do set ups and they were included as artfully as could be done.

  • @WebSpyder777
    @WebSpyder777 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You keep saying that Riri was completely unnecessary and I thought so as well, before I saw the film. A scientist character who creates the vibranium detector and is then saved from Namor by Wakanda was completely necessary. Eric's speech in the ancestral plane kind of hinges on the fact that T'Chaka would have killed Riri and Romanda saved her. Could it have been some random no-name character? Sure. But the character isn't shoe horned into the plot and if it can be someone that serves both the story and world building then why not? People have been whining all of phase 4 about things not being connected enough.

  • @jackryan5880
    @jackryan5880 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    You forgot how Nakia was stabbed in the stomach by Namor, it was a direct reference to the how Killmonger was finished by being stabbed in the stomach as well. It's also a warning in a sense in how following a path of grief and vengeance sows only your destruction.

  • @TheShad0wW3av3r
    @TheShad0wW3av3r ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the reason behind the talokanians fighting prowess out of the water is due to the natural resistance water has when moving through it, thus their strength would be much higher than a surface dweller of similar size/stature. Not to mention their movement on land wouldn't be impeded by any resisting force (i.e. the water), thus their agility was heightened.

  • @PavelPerez
    @PavelPerez ปีที่แล้ว +16

    36:32 not "weak", he called him "too noble" which is a positive negative, maybe not to offend his memory.

  • @writermichaeljlando
    @writermichaeljlando ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ryan, your breakdowns are phenomenal. I loved this movie out of the theater. Now I LOVE this movie even more. The obvious connections to the MCU were there but the I was so overwhelmed by the sensory experience of this film that all the subtle connections and call backs flew over me.

  • @Rbj4525
    @Rbj4525 ปีที่แล้ว

    @SC your explanation made the film even better for me. I would like to watch it again with this new insight.

  • @danforward3913
    @danforward3913 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It was a very strong movie. Ramonda was very powerful, and Namor was scary. I still wish Killmonger had been resurrected because Michael B. Jordan is absolutely amazing, and is probably more believable than Letitia Wright as Black Panther, but she ended up doing a very good job. It probably could have used a bit of tightening up, as it dragged, and it was very sad, which I get, but some more joy wouldn't have been out of place. Overall, a very enjoyable MCU film that makes me forget how bad Love and Thunder was.

  • @MREPS412
    @MREPS412 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    It was a good touch that she was in Haiti too. Most of the stories I hear of sirens and mermaids are from Haitian stories.

  • @estiascott4242
    @estiascott4242 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whoa! That was a lot to digest but thank you for sharing. I didn't know that black panther had so much history but that's why I like watching you videos about Marvel movies. And now I'm wondering what they're going to do next. Can't wait!

  • @amarie1852
    @amarie1852 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The idea of m’baku as king and shuri as black panther is a cool thought

  • @j.swizzle1371
    @j.swizzle1371 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ryan did such a fantastic job explaining how the themes of the movie tie into the real life cultural representations. This video is a great resource and makes the movie even richer when watching the second time. You are a beast Ryan! Thank you for this!

  • @manxdarcqpaw744
    @manxdarcqpaw744 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    An old episode of Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends (S1E06), Namor was captured by drying out his skin, so that has long been a weakness of his.

    • @ayyoquicks
      @ayyoquicks ปีที่แล้ว

      Swimming in the pool of alcohol lol always make me laugh

  • @Moncriefs
    @Moncriefs ปีที่แล้ว +24

    That "Your Mom" joke gets me every damn time🤣🤣🤣

    • @EternallyHeru
      @EternallyHeru ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I checked the comments just to see if anyone else caught it lol😂😂

  • @twthefan
    @twthefan ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It may be possible that the same meteor deposited vibranium in both areas. In Pangea, Africa and South America were connected and shifted apart over time, theoretically taking vibranium to both regions

    • @azulaquaza4916
      @azulaquaza4916 ปีที่แล้ว

      Talokans Vibramium was in the Atlantic Ocean which didn’t exist in Pangea so it would have to be post Pangea.

    • @stevenserna910
      @stevenserna910 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is a known fact that actual meteors do break apart as meteorites once blasting through our atmosphere. Just sayin'.

  • @alr2512
    @alr2512 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Ryan. I just got around to seeing Wakanda Forever today, and I was flabbergasted by the credit "introducing" Tenoch Huerta as Namor -- which Huerta's management either agreed to or advocated for, but for reasons that escape me. He's a big star in Mexico, and he's done Hollywood in English too -- he had a lead role in the last "Purge." But I'm bringing this up to recommend the first thing I saw him in about eight years ago. It's a terrific little B&W indie called "Güeros," a road movie that somehow all takes place in the same giant city. If you liked him as Namor, I enthusiastically recommend you and your viewers watch him in that.

  • @janminglee3004
    @janminglee3004 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Screencrush forgot to mention that Riri Williams was studyin in MIT. Maybe we will have a ironheart cameo in spiderman 4 when peter goes to MIT.? Since he made an appeal in NWH. And Ned is a sorceror so he might have links to dark magic in Ironheart.

  • @brittdaniels7882
    @brittdaniels7882 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “It’s more likely a reference to your Mom “ lmaooo

  • @kaeyravelez
    @kaeyravelez ปีที่แล้ว

    The "your mom" references get me every time 😭😭🤣🤣🤣

  • @enricocharles
    @enricocharles ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 super great work! These easter eggs!! You disected the movie bits by bits with *Excellence*. Congrats on the good work you're doing again!!! Keep th coming!

  • @Justin-ny8df
    @Justin-ny8df ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I loved that they were speaking a Mayan language and loved the changes to mesoamerican culture instead of Atlantis.
    My wife and I loved the celebration of life that Wakanda had at the funeral in all white. It's the same in her country, Colombia, white is worn to celebrate the life that the deceased lived.

  • @AlphaCenturi16
    @AlphaCenturi16 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Namor was the mvp

  • @jamesandrew4958
    @jamesandrew4958 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    as a plot hole I don't understand how M'baku learned that Namor was called Kukulkan from the books in Jabari land if Talokan and the mythos surrounding it was largely kept a secret

    • @ajohns76
      @ajohns76 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It’s not, the Talokan civilization would have likely been entrenched with the Mesoamerican religion and deity hierarchy. So, that’s why Jabari understood the reference and the significance of the Talokan calling him Kukulkan

    • @jamesandrew4958
      @jamesandrew4958 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ajohns76 this makes a lot more sense, thank you!

  • @franckmjuste
    @franckmjuste ปีที่แล้ว

    Slow clap for the “waiting to exhale” clip during that explanation bravo 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Hexlaw111
    @Hexlaw111 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I cried so hard 😭😭😭

  • @LadyKayy13
    @LadyKayy13 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did not see Bast originally when watching Love&Thunder! Thank you for pointing her out!

  • @Djepetto13
    @Djepetto13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "but, it's more likely a reference to your mom!" hahaha

  • @Kait2478
    @Kait2478 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved that the opening credit for the logo was like a moment of silence for Chadwick Boseman. Gave me goosebumps and tears

  • @Shaddowkhan
    @Shaddowkhan ปีที่แล้ว

    This is my favorite Marvel movie, i never thought my top 5 would be rearranged.

  • @danielhughes5932
    @danielhughes5932 ปีที่แล้ว

    The VI Lenin reference was a nice surprise. Didn't know Doug was a comrade!

  • @Byronic19134
    @Byronic19134 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My only complaint is I thought they should of had a Bucky cameo, maybe even Falcon too.

    • @jessicak2811
      @jessicak2811 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree Bucky should've made an appearance 💜🖤

    • @blackoffee
      @blackoffee ปีที่แล้ว

      I think falcon in captain america for now

  • @shanko9343
    @shanko9343 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Once I heard Namor mention the Quan….
    I already knew 🔥

  • @Music_is_Breathing
    @Music_is_Breathing ปีที่แล้ว

    Great reaction, thanks!!!!!!! Made things a lot clearer.

  • @JoshuaKingxo
    @JoshuaKingxo ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Josh King
    1 second ago
    Sorry if this has been addressed but I haven't seen or heard anyone talking about how the Talokanil heal after Okoye mortally wounds several of them on the bridge. Yet when one is blasted at close range by the sonic weapon via Nakia they die. Assuming its not just a plot hole, some random thoughts my friends and I had were perhaps the Talokanil are not as susceptible to vibranium wounds? Or perhaps Namor is contributing to their healing factor and let her die to help motivate his people to act? Any other thoughts on this - what did I miss?

  • @markjreed
    @markjreed ปีที่แล้ว

    26:58 Maz Kanata was of course voiced by Lupita Nyong'o, who plays Nakia.

  • @hightolerance8728
    @hightolerance8728 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yoooo😂😂 Ryan cappin for Angela Basset to win a Oscar an showing clips from those other movies was hilarious. Idk if He was Trolling or serious but it was funny

  • @marveldcfan5422
    @marveldcfan5422 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Loved the movie

  • @darnellt.poston8970
    @darnellt.poston8970 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here one...they got the idea for Namor's weakness from the Spider-Man and his Amazing friends episode called "Seven Little Superheroes"... In that show The Chameleon kidnaps various heroes and have them go through a booby trapped mansion...in order to defeat Namor, Chameleon first disables Namor by enticing him into a swimming pool full of alcohol...then imprisons him in a cage with a super solar lamp constantly keeping him dry!

  • @alexm1229
    @alexm1229 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys really did your homework on these easter eggs! Very impressive

  • @thegamingkitchen8429
    @thegamingkitchen8429 ปีที่แล้ว

    This movie pulled my heart too much

  • @blaksky4455
    @blaksky4455 ปีที่แล้ว

    He also forgot to mention that T'Challa Jr's alternate name is Toussaint, named after Toussaint Louverture, a former enslaved African that lead the Haitian Revolution of 1791. 😊 Love that they added that little touch.

  • @ericmui1749
    @ericmui1749 ปีที่แล้ว

    That figure in riris room wasn't maz Kanata. It was a vinyl figure from a Chicago artist named Hebru brantley

  • @chairfitcamp
    @chairfitcamp ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done

  • @ordnance91b
    @ordnance91b ปีที่แล้ว

    In Riri's dorm room, she has a Chicago flag hanging on one wall and a flag with the phases of the moon on the other. This references Moonknight who is from Chicago.

  • @redpanda9367
    @redpanda9367 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m surprised Namor didn’t have any run ins with the Eternals.

  • @morgande
    @morgande ปีที่แล้ว

    It took me a few tries to get through this video as I kept getting distracted by daddy duties. Very extensive, informative and well done. Highly impressed. I subscribed and look forward to seeing more. Good job sir!

  • @amandadunn5640
    @amandadunn5640 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think M’Baku is at the coronation as Shuri’s champion. A requirement of Wakandan ritual combat is that it must be a fair fight. Shuri without the herb is not a fair fight and Shuri with the herb is not a fair fight. She would need a champion to make the fight fair.

  • @Jesus-do1wl
    @Jesus-do1wl ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LOL at the Latino Mayan Peter Pan with wings on his feet LOL 🤣🤣🤣
    Reminded me of Peter Pan

  • @Mccpotinc
    @Mccpotinc ปีที่แล้ว

    Riri and Nakia were seriously caked up

  • @nranderson778
    @nranderson778 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the best breakdown I have seen for this movie.

  • @tylerwarman6458
    @tylerwarman6458 ปีที่แล้ว

    That marvel cold open has me balling

  • @swifty1969
    @swifty1969 ปีที่แล้ว

    it would have been extremely cool if the Talokanians could control water like give it shape. Or have flying vehicles made of water.

  • @jamescampbellJamesNoel
    @jamescampbellJamesNoel ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved the movie. Its so much to talk about and where to start. The Black Panther lives!!!!!

  • @jgeear
    @jgeear ปีที่แล้ว

    38:20 I thought she was planting the new her made heart shaped herb.

  • @kanedaku
    @kanedaku ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't think that the herb planted by Shuri was the underwater variety. I thought she planted one of the flowers she organically 3D printed.
    I wouldn't imagine their underwater plants growing on land; I made the assumption that the reason why the -Atlantians- -Talaxians- Avatarians couldn't breathe air was because their herb grew underwater.

  • @zeroreyortsed3624
    @zeroreyortsed3624 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never thought I would see anyone make an "Over the Top" reference. 😁😂

  • @colthuhn2523
    @colthuhn2523 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great tribute to Boseman, just bummed there was no reference or easter egg of Doom or Latveria :(

  • @MrSharkBait561
    @MrSharkBait561 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nakia looked so fucking cute in Wakanda Forever. I was hoping she'd step up and become the Black Panther instead of Shuri. That would've been a nice twist, giving a major role to a minor character who I'm sure everyone enjoys seeing. Her running away so that she doesn't have to accept the death of T'Challa and then returning to defend her former home, his Kingdom would've been great story telling. Better than what they did with Shuri.

  • @BretMuckdogs
    @BretMuckdogs ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Ryan!

  • @wesman281
    @wesman281 ปีที่แล้ว

    “It’s probably a reference to your mom “ lmaoo

  • @tisha954
    @tisha954 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was the best movie I've seen in 2022. It was superb. The cast was great and Namor was an exciting addition, he was a beast! Well done Marvel!

  • @donnaharris643
    @donnaharris643 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved it can't wait for the 3rd one to come out missed the scene when ta challa Jr came out

  • @ka-powUSA
    @ka-powUSA ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing analysis!

  • @thexerun8812
    @thexerun8812 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    On the Vibranium giving Namor his awakened mutation. The French ambassador mentions the possibility of a Vibranium nuclear weapon.
    So what if a big Vibranium bomb sets off the mutations around the world

    • @hyewonderfull
      @hyewonderfull ปีที่แล้ว

      wait yessss that would slay actually. and maybe ms marvel bangles also got some vibranium in it.

  • @ZDogg89
    @ZDogg89 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful movie. Great mythos to Atlanteans. Great music choice. Great acting by everyone. Great way to end Boseman's run as Black Panther and a great way to set up future Black Panther movies.

  • @officialjayhan
    @officialjayhan ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s not actually a new suit, it’s Erik’s panther habit with the added gauntlets

  • @Shotta_Babii
    @Shotta_Babii ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m still trying to figure out when is this celestial growing out of the ocean situation is going to be explained in these movies 😒

  • @melflewis
    @melflewis ปีที่แล้ว

    just saw the movie and loved it. This video makes me love it even more! Thank youu

  • @chipsnicecream5989
    @chipsnicecream5989 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just realized the secretary of state is also Odin from God of War Ragnarok

  • @djfanboyLIVE
    @djfanboyLIVE ปีที่แล้ว

    The Black Panther can drop from the sky with no parachute because of the superhuman abilities combined with the shock absorption of the suit.

  • @KiltedVeteran
    @KiltedVeteran ปีที่แล้ว

    Richard Schiff voice and likeness also plays Odin in God of War Ragnarok

  • @TheReally4rob
    @TheReally4rob ปีที่แล้ว

    Further Egg Fun: Maz Kanata Funko ===> Maz Kanata voice ctor Lupita Nyong'o ===> Lupita is Nakia

  • @yourmom-vz8rn
    @yourmom-vz8rn ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Fresh out of the theater and now this! What a treat.

    • @lovinv08
      @lovinv08 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What would u give it on a scale from 1 to 10

    • @quentinlopa
      @quentinlopa ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s a 7 for me

    • @QuiGonJack10
      @QuiGonJack10 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lovinv08 9.5 out of 10 at its best and 7 out of 10 at its worst. Anywhere from 8.5-9 out of 10 overall for me

    • @yourmom-vz8rn
      @yourmom-vz8rn ปีที่แล้ว

      A solid 8

  • @mikhanch1228
    @mikhanch1228 ปีที่แล้ว

    That dog doesn't get paid nearly enough for carrying the entire episode, every time

  • @alexanderdumas-
    @alexanderdumas- ปีที่แล้ว +2567

    Queen Ramonda told Shuri reflect alone by the water and you will see T’Challa like I did. At the end Shuri reflects by the water and sees T’Challa…Jr.

    • @master-of-many-fandoms2020
      @master-of-many-fandoms2020 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      Well, that and also reflect on the times they spent together.

    • @ZaMorant1733
      @ZaMorant1733 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Facts 💯

    • @iloveentertainment
      @iloveentertainment ปีที่แล้ว +47

      What a beautiful insight! Thanks 🙏

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@master-of-many-fandoms2020 Thats the implied understanding, the twist and surprise is how she did that then turned around and saw him literally.

    • @izzylandyt
      @izzylandyt ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Or she saw Bully McGuire and he said “oh look at little T’Challa Jr…gonna cry?” 😂

  • @dwaidontwait
    @dwaidontwait ปีที่แล้ว +1401

    Here's one I think people missed, when Ross is being kidnapped, the license plate reads CB112976 - Chad's birthdate

    • @DarrylsB
      @DarrylsB ปีที่แล้ว +66

      thank you for this Easter egg

    • @markmaietta5372
      @markmaietta5372 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Nice catch!

    • @rkms5606
      @rkms5606 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Nice. Thank you for sharing this

    • @emmybm15
      @emmybm15 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I thought there was something with that number plate! Oh gosh how lovely ❤

    • @liamneedsome9837
      @liamneedsome9837 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Nice!!!!

  • @FredericoASousa
    @FredericoASousa ปีที่แล้ว +175

    I think it was cool how M'baku was the voice of reason, when he was previously the more aggressive one.

    • @tooslow4065
      @tooslow4065 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and he'll be the king in the next BP movie

    • @aaronmcmillen8140
      @aaronmcmillen8140 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He was a bully in the first movie, in this one he became my favorite. His voice of reason was shown fully.
      Now he's a three dimensional character. One who Can and will use violence to accrue his means. But one smart enough to not always use it.
      His acting was spot on. The actor did an AMAZING job. I'll have to see what else he's been in after this role!

    • @brandonmoss7976
      @brandonmoss7976 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's just a fishman 😳😳😳😆😆😆

  • @KelvinMartinez
    @KelvinMartinez ปีที่แล้ว +825

    When Angela Bassett spoke about how she lost everything as the queen when she was in her throne room was to me the most powerful scene I might have seen in any marvel movie.
    P.S. I definitely believe this is the first time that anybody said I'm a mutant just flat out when Namor said it.

    • @insidejah9293
      @insidejah9293 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Right! The first time the word mutant was used in an MCU movie from what I remember.

    • @ked49
      @ked49 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@insidejah9293 2nd dr strange 2 was the first

    • @philcollins2546
      @philcollins2546 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bertie Bassett was better

    • @iunderstanphotography2780
      @iunderstanphotography2780 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Because she is a powerful actor and she got the lines she needed for the impact
      Imagine what could come out of viola Davis in Suicide squad movies if they let it.?

    • @blackblur
      @blackblur ปีที่แล้ว +14

      In Ms Marvel Kamala’s friend says there’s a mutation in her DNA then the X-men 90s theme plays in the background.

  • @Viejo93
    @Viejo93 ปีที่แล้ว +449

    My theatre was silent for all the parts honoring Chadwick Boseman. I loved the respect and chilling silence everyone had for these few moments.

    • @yallen2010
      @yallen2010 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Mine was too

    • @Skysthelimit212
      @Skysthelimit212 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Mine was too, and so was my family members in Canada. I love how we all collectively respected that moment

    • @jamiefrew2586
      @jamiefrew2586 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I thought cinemas were meant to be silent all the time

    • @kimberlyrogers2891
      @kimberlyrogers2891 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Mine as well, first movie I’ve ever been to that had NO empty seats and Not a peep or movement from anyone. Some ppl cried ❤

    • @leimi7901
      @leimi7901 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same

  • @genito1
    @genito1 ปีที่แล้ว +466

    Shuri's arc is awesome. I really liked how her character evolved from enthusiastic tech genius, to grieving younger sister, revenge berserker and her finding peace at the end. That the kind of character development you don't often see

    • @boppinboyz
      @boppinboyz ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Black Panther literally went through that in Cap Civil War

    • @letterstoalice
      @letterstoalice ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Jordan, tchalla didn’t have a nerd phase

    • @rkms5606
      @rkms5606 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree. I also hope they take her arc to the more shaman spiritual black panther. IRL her faith her been Central to her life and career (and come back for this movie after injury).

    • @yongdol73
      @yongdol73 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was like the team lost their HOF franchise superstar and tried to replace him with the 12th man or woman on the bench. Man, her gut and spinal core were speared right through, but she was just fine because how? lmao.

    • @nguyenquoctoan6354
      @nguyenquoctoan6354 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@yongdol73 She wore an advanced nanotech suit and strengthened herself with heart-shaped herb. Also that was foretold earlier in the movie, when the Talocan soldiers was pierced by Okoye's spear through their stomaches but they could still stood up later. Tony had his gut pierced a bigger hole on Titan and got no strengthening but only his suit, and he even stayed malnutrition for weeks before he got rescued.
      Also, we didn't see Shuri's back, how can you be sure that her spinal core got hit?

  • @whoa50
    @whoa50 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    I also pondered why the Talokanil were overpowering the Wakandans, and I came to this conclusion… To be a Talokanil they ALL consumed their variation of the “Heart-Shaped Herb”, but only the Black Panther does this in Wakanda… So the Wakandans were technically fighting a completely super-powered nation with basically excellent training & weapons… What if ALL Wakandans consumed a version of the “Heart-Shaped Herb” (since Shuri now has the ability to synthesize it) 🤯

    • @ieatthestage
      @ieatthestage ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Namor is still stronger than everyone one else in Talokan. If everyone in Wakanda had equal strength it would create an interesting power struggle

    • @TheTrevork26
      @TheTrevork26 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Remember that only the family with royal blood can consume the Heart-shaped herb so its only Tchalla's family who can

    • @whoa50
      @whoa50 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @Trevor K I do recall that storyline about Wakanda's Heart-Shaped Herb... Based on what she did in Wakanda Forever, Shuri should be able to create something a non-royal Wakandan could take to enhance themselves.

    • @dinerocurioso
      @dinerocurioso ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And their training is under water which means it's a harder training

    • @owaindavies9971
      @owaindavies9971 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Made me laugh how they walk into wakanda and kick the crap out of them but, it took a sustained barrage from Thanos' army to breach their defences. Perhaps thanos should have recruited the sub mariner.

  • @andrewmyrthong5415
    @andrewmyrthong5415 ปีที่แล้ว +340

    T'Challa's kid appeared earlier in the film when Queen Ramonda first visited Nakia in Haiti. He was the kid who asked Queen Ramonda, "Are you the new headmistress?"

    • @apbhaduri
      @apbhaduri ปีที่แล้ว +71

      i thought he said "Are you looking for the headmistress?"

    • @intothefrayyo
      @intothefrayyo ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@apbhaduri correct

    • @b1ztake
      @b1ztake ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it's kind of sad when you realise ramonda died not knowing she talked to her grandson then

    • @DeeDellimore
      @DeeDellimore ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@b1ztake she did know and wanted tell shuri that by the river

    • @Iamgoodatnames
      @Iamgoodatnames ปีที่แล้ว

      Huhhhhhhhhhhhh

  • @stephenbailey6220
    @stephenbailey6220 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    I can’t believe Ryan Coogler made Namors little silly winged feet into something totally badass

    • @mostmost1
      @mostmost1 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Those wings looked spooky.

    • @Iamgoodatnames
      @Iamgoodatnames ปีที่แล้ว

      IKR

    • @brandonmoss7976
      @brandonmoss7976 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean when you think about it it gives some incredible angular speed, and yeah they kind of look creepy 😆

  • @truevoltz7451
    @truevoltz7451 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Another note. When Attuma and Namora attack Okoye Shuri and Riri, near the end when Namora chucks a water bomb at Attuma, he uses his hip to bounce it into Okoye. Probably because of their sport they play back in Talokan where they use their hip to bounce a ball through a hole

    • @teovu5557
      @teovu5557 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      its a real game in mexico n its called Ulama

    • @MercyAlwyz23
      @MercyAlwyz23 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh great catch! That is a purely Mayan historical thing. It is assumed they played that game to settle conflicts too so it makes sense Attuma would use those game moves.

  • @nicholasgarrick8855
    @nicholasgarrick8855 ปีที่แล้ว +230

    That scene between okoye ,and queen Ramonda is what's gonna get angela Bassett that Oscar nom ,and hopefully win.

    • @annprimo742
      @annprimo742 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Yesssss….I was quivering when she was speaking.

    • @Xxbaesiaa
      @Xxbaesiaa ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I feel aside from the deaths, that was the most powerful scene! They were amazing

    • @donnasmall5102
      @donnasmall5102 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She won the Oscar for the Tina Turner story,l believe.

    • @toyajohnson6290
      @toyajohnson6290 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @Donna Small , she didn't. She was only nominated for that role.

    • @alexanderthegreat5649
      @alexanderthegreat5649 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@donnasmall5102
      Holly Hunter won for "The Piano".... double nominee as she was nominated for supporting actress as well the same yr for The Firm.

  • @alexanderdumas-
    @alexanderdumas- ปีที่แล้ว +456

    The first and last scene of Agent Ross is him on the run. Such great symbolism.

    • @mikebooze5090
      @mikebooze5090 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      What caught me off guard was he was married to val 😳

    • @ccelite3782
      @ccelite3782 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Bro was married to Val 😭

    • @coryascott
      @coryascott ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And an AirPod Pro 2 ad

    • @DevilDogZak
      @DevilDogZak ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I’m starting to wonder if Val isn’t going to be so much of a bad guy but just a new slightly darker Fury. Unless she’s a female variant of Kang, I’ve always thought that because VAL upside down looks like TVA

    • @alexanderdumas-
      @alexanderdumas- ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@DevilDogZak lol i doubt the Kang thing tho this version of her may even be a skrull but who knows maybe your right 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @MrTheHeadlines
    @MrTheHeadlines ปีที่แล้ว +420

    Angela Bassett did some of the best acting I have ever saw in this movie hands down

    • @ezrachansa2231
      @ezrachansa2231 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did she die?

    • @MrTheHeadlines
      @MrTheHeadlines ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@ezrachansa2231 yup in the movie namor drowned her

    • @ezrachansa2231
      @ezrachansa2231 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cheers big homie

    • @kekw5153
      @kekw5153 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Her acting kinda resembles Charlize Theron in Snow White and Huntsman. Even one of their lines sound similar and I was like huh, they prob got inspo from it

    • @TheNewEmpire777
      @TheNewEmpire777 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@kekw5153 I doubt a company like marvel, was inspired from that lol

  • @wisemoon40
    @wisemoon40 ปีที่แล้ว +318

    I’m kind of surprised that no one I follow on TH-cam has mentioned Ramonda and Shuri’s hair. In the opening scene, they both have long hair. In the funeral scene their heads are mostly covered. When they meet Namor, they both have short hair. Many cultures have a tradition of cutting their hair or shaving their head when a family member dies and they enter a formal period of mourning. I wonder if that’s what they were implying here.

    • @gamecokben
      @gamecokben ปีที่แล้ว +48

      That was my thought too. They made it a point to repeatedly show Ramonda's hair. No way that's an accident.

    • @AmyKaylasVegas
      @AmyKaylasVegas ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I loved Shuri's braids as Black Panther! Super cool

    • @rkms5606
      @rkms5606 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for naming this.

    • @Robj007
      @Robj007 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Great insight. I never knew that. Thank you.

    • @iona6558
      @iona6558 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@AmyKaylasVegas someone mentioned that shuri was taking aspects of both t’challa and n’jadaka’s panthers; she took his braided back hairstyle bc she was originally seeking vengeance before going the noble route like her big brother and sparing the other side