How WAKANDA FOREVER Sets Up AVENGERS: SECRET WARS
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Black Panther: Wakanda Forever revealed that vibranium is the key to global power on the CU's Earth, but we think it will also be the key to power in the multiverse. I this video we break down the secret connection between Vobranium, the Etenals, Kang the Conqueror--and how this all leads into Secret Wars redefining the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
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Vibranium allowed the creation of the most advanced civilization in the world. And it created one of the first superheroes in history, who is the Black Panther.
But Wakanda Forever now reveales that vibranium has a much bigger sagnifince that is going ti directly connects to the mutants, the mutliversal war, and the plans of kang The conquerer, that will ultimately lead into Secret Wars.
Namor’s people have vibranium as well, but they are different. The metal turned them into superhumans. And Namor is now one of the most powerful people on the planet.
The vibranium of both civilization has arrived from space, with the best delivery system in the universe - meteors.
Doug: unless you are a dinosaur…
Anyway one vibranium meteor is a miracle, two of them arriving on the same planet, that starts to feel like a pattern.
And don’t forget, there was a third important meteor that hit Earth, the one that the celestials sent.
Here’s the thing, The MCU is heading to Avengers Secret Wars, it will be the culmination of the multiverse saga. And based on what we learned in Loki, there will be a multiversal war, which will be caused by Kang the conquere and his variants.
That’s the war we will see in Secret Wars, a war that might end the enthire multiverse.
Of course Kang is involved. He might be the reason why earth’s is the only world in the universe that had vibranium. Kang is playing a game on the multiveral scale, planning something huge with the strongest metal in the world, and it’s the key for him winning Secret Wars.
Alright, before we explain Kang’s plan, let’s explain the possible connection between vibranium and the celestials, because that will clarify that Kang is planning.
So about 2.5 millions years ago, a meteor hit Africa and brougt vibranium to Earth.
From that meteor, Wakanda was born, and they became the most advanced civilization on Earth.
For a long time everyone assumed that Wakanda is the only source of vibranium on the planet, but there was another.
About 500 years ago, Namor’s people found a flower shaped vibranium ore in the Yucatán Peninsula, which is in Mexico.
The vibranium must have arrived there from a diffrent meteor that hit Africa.
Namor’s people found the vibranium in the Yucatán Peninsula which is in Mexico. Thats where the Chicxulub crater located. The crater was created by the asteroid that killed the Dinosaurs millions of years ago.
So obviously vibranium is alien to Earth, it was sent from somewhere in space.
The fact that two vibranium meteors hit Earth twice, in two different locations, around the same time, creating two powerful societies. That can’t be a coincidence.
You see the MCU might be putting more focus on the importance of vibranium. It’s significance so far was mostly as a tool or a weapon that was used by diffrent charecters. But there might be a far bigger meaning to the strongest metal in the universe.
Vibranium might have a direc connection to the multiverse.
Don’t forget, there was a third meteor that hit Earth millions of years ago.
The celestials sent Tiamut’s seed to Earth in the form of a meteor.
In case you forgot, the celestials are born from seeds that grow inside planet cores. The seeds arrive on worlds with meteors. Which is how vibranium arrived on Earth. Seems like a trend.
In fact, the celestials have a bit of a habit of deleviring stuff with meteors. The devients were sent to worlds in meteor showers.
And considering that Tiamut was rising from the Indian Ocean, that’s likely the place of origins of the meteor.
Yeah… all sorts of messed up.
But this is the same process that the MCU’s celestials use.
And here’s the thing, the heart of what this theory is all about. The celestials of Earth X are made of…. vibranium.
The celestials inject the embryo worlds with vibranium, and as the celestial baby grows inside, it’s incased as a shell around the celestials, creating that cosmic armor. - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
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Hey Ryan, I enjoyed your video and it all makes sense. I do have one question for you. What about the signal that the 10 rings gave off into space? What does that tie into to the multi-verse? Does that tie into let a celestial know or to something else entirely that maybe will find out in the movie the marvels? I know you’ve done a video on this before but I thought that maybe you would tie that into this video here as well. What are your thoughts again about that signal after seeing Wakanda forever?
if its all natural, why cant you eat it?
that code does not work for Canadians so cool
I literally said this in the comments for 15yrs in 15mins video..
The Talokans are only blue when they are above water. So it's not that the plant made them view , but the lack of oxygen on their skin
Fan theories for these movies are always 10 times better than what they decide to go with
Cuz writers don’t read the comics they read about the story arc n do what they can with the blackface iron Downey jr
@@nach0561 LMFAO bruh you're hilarious. They definitely read Ironheart comics though, they nailed how unlikable she is.
Always lol. These hack writers the studios hire have like 10% of the imagination of fans.
@@DJRashadHayes 10? That's extremely generous
only screen crush fan theories, other channels are for literal children
I just really want ONE of these MCU projects to directly tie in Eternals. At this point Eternals just seems like a solo movie
Eternals Sucked
@@briannajones2071 True but its still part of the MCU. The only movie/show to reference it so far is the She Hulk show which was actually WORSE than Eternals
@@budgiecat9039 what was the reference
We could say Namor is indirectly connected to the eternals through the conquistadors scene
@@startenderspacebar IIRC, there was a blurb on a news site that Jen was reading about the thing sticking out of the sea.
I’ll just say, I’m impressed with this level of tracking and investigation and I’d be even more impressed if the Marvel folks actually put this much effort in their planning.
Making the most racist MCU movie... Yeah, so impressive.
They're planning the next 8 years so I don't see why this would be so far fetched for them to plan out. It's been confirmed that vibranium will be the key to phase 5, so this pretty much confirm his theory
@@JacobDean88 Why? Because someone doesn't want their colonizers on THEIR land? Everything the Sect. of State, Val DeFontaine, The 2 Scientists, in the beginning, screamed "We want to take your shit because we know what to do with it better than you. Why? Because we can. Prejudice is the word you meant. In order to be prejudiced, one would have to be in power to look down on inferior beings and affect their entire existence JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN. Sound familiar?
Racist? Yeah, on the Colonizers end. Sounds about YT
@@JacobDean88 what do you mean? And which movie?
@@christopherbradley7809 he thinks calling white people colonizers is racist. dont feed the troll.
I actually really like this theory, it fits together a lot of different pieces very nicely
This is better than the She Hulk theory.
Except Earth isn't "the only source of Vibranium in the universe." Someone wasn't paying attention during the original Avengers movies.
@@horusgarcia1 ugh too soon
@@DocFunkenstein Also whatever metal Thanos had in his helicopter blade weapon was stronger than Vibranium. Also theyre going to have to explain Adamantium
@@budgiecat9039 no it wasn’t stronger then vibranium, his weapon broke caps shield, cap shield is an alloy of vibranium and some other metal. Making caps shield way weaker then pure vibranium
I feel like phase 4 has been a disconnected mess compared to the previous one's. Which has given me a whole new appreciation for the trope of 'collect these items' because it does help to tie stories together more easily.
Phase 4 has been connected though…
That's probably because they focused on introducing new characters, and setting up a new Avengers team in phase 4
The mutant gene being activated by celestial artifact theory is pretty great
This movie was so good it made me cry so bad.
Teary-eyed the whole time
You are the people that keep enabling Ryan Coogler to keep making movies centred around black trauma. For the love of God Ryan please tell another story, we're tired...
@@thembanitheone what are people not allowed to make movies about that?💀
@@taffinjones8641 it's called reading. He said that's all he does
@@thembanitheone
You are the people?!? Stfu
Love how they integrate ancient history with comics.
Homer did it first.
@@BlackHatCinephile ok?
This was part of the wider MCU world-building that felt like studio notes to Coogler that would've made the movie tighter if it was left out!
I think all that stuff was fine and working towards a bigger picture. If they didn't put it in people would've complained about BP2 feeling disconnected from phase 4 just like everything else
@@Monikerpub Majority of ppl would've understood and made an exception if all the Val & Ross stuff for example was trimmed down to a single scene or cut out altogether given the circumstances Coogler had to deal with!
@@AllInTheGame01 Okay I hear what you're saying but aside from Chadwick's death, they still had an ensemble of characters to focus on including Ross. It would've been unfair if he was the only character (aside from Killmonger) who was given only one scene to work it
Downside of a shared universe
It has been a problem in comics for decades where you will get seemingly throwaway panels, pages or even issues because editorial demands tie ins to other things
Then how could you get the conflict between wankanda and toko without it?
The one that hit the Yucatan Peninsula could have just been a piece of the same one that hit Wakanda. Could have broken off in entry. I thought Shuri actually suggested this
The one that hit the Yucatan hit over 60 million years ago, the one that hit Wakanda hit 2 million years ago. So unless it broke off and flew around for 60 million years and then came back, it's not possible
@@BloodKills where was that mentioned when exactly the Yucatan one hit? Genuinely asking
@@anthonydaquet7934 it wasn't mentioned when it hit, but if Talocan is under the ocean off the coast of the Yucatan Peninsula and the Vibranium that exists under the ocean was from a meteorite that hit around that area, then one can infer that it was the same meteorite that killed the non-avian dinosaurs 66 million years ago.
@@anthonydaquet7934 It's not a marvel thing, it was a real meteor that this theory is saying was actually vibranium in the MCU instead of just a normal meteor like it was in real life. That meteor hit the Yucatan Peninsula, wiping out the dinosaurs 65 million years ago.
@@BloodKills ok but how do we know when the meteor hit Wakanda?
I find some of these as incredible stretches but knowing Feige's way of paving narratives, I wouldn't be too surprised if the Celestials, Vibranium and even the Infinity Stones had some connection, if tiny, with the multiverse and Kang
Don’t doubt it bro. These next 2 phases are gonna blow our minds and expectations out of the park
Yes I also have a similar theory where it's He Who Remains intentionally give Shangchi and Kamala artifacts by set them up in the history and let their ancestors found it. A lot of heroes gain their power with a very small and odd chance yet they happens frequently, so it's could be HWR intentionally build the timeline allow all of those things to happens, like Carol/ Maria as Captain Marvel by destroying the flight engine, or how Tony Stark became Iron Man because Dr Yinsen sacrificed, or Bruce able to endure gamma ray and became Hulk...etc
Imagine a time travel sequence like end game but planting the seeds for different avengers. Would be neat cinematically.
The idea that there's a lot of "stuff" being thrown at the Earth is a good one. So many high value items just arriving from the sky really is suspect. The other planets don't get this sort of treatment (to the best of our knowledge.)
I like the idea that the x gene is like a hyper sensitivity to vibranium, hence why people like the talokani and the black panther also always have powers. Great video as always!
I’m hoping we get Ka-zar and the Savage Land. That’s the last place there is an offshoot of vibranium.
always blown away by the stuff you put out. This is amazing.
KEVIN FEIGE puts it out...
Whenever I feel like I worked hard at the end of the day, I watch one of these videos and realize Ryan works MUCH harder.
What an insane amount of knowledge 👏
Secret Wars is amazing because it begins how the Illuminati is debating what is good or bad to do as a right thing. Steve Rogers is against killing an entire world but Reed Richards is ready for every outcome so he learns how to destroy an entire world (literally). Dr. Strange explains a world means every single place, so not just an universe but also all bizzare dimensions. I hope MCU will delivere such a good writing
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR A VIDEO LIKE THIS! I legit feel the exact same.
This is one of my favorite MCU theories and theory videos, fantastic work Ryan!!
Wow ! U have brought the WHOLE picture into FOCUS ; everything U said is on POINT . Tying in the MCU & putting it I to a nice bow ! Thank U !
I just don't know if Marvel will follow this theory or not .....but i just love this theory nd tha way you think of this possibility....💫
This sounds so valid & ties everything well mostly
14:31 "When vibranium is mixed with science and magic, it taps into the Quantum forces, which basically make its power infinite."
Dr. Doom: "Now this looks like a job for me"
I love when you use that guitar background music! Makes the video that much more awesome!
The 10 Rings were found in an ancient tomb... It was probably the tomb or Rama Tutt. a.k.a. Kang the Conqueror.
THIS VIDEO IS CRAZY! This is amazing
You are absolutely brilliant. I can’t believe how many seemingly tiny moments you pulled together to create this elaborate and totally plausible theory.
Excellent film clips Ryan 👌
👏🏼great discussion it will be kool to see how it unfolds.
Such a well made video. 🔥
You have it Ryan, way better than any other TH-camr in my opinion. You're alos onto something here, I too rewatched Black Panther last night for small clues you are laying out here. Can you speculate at all about Simon Williams' role in this future stuff and I also wondered if there is a wonderful realtionship ahead for Simon and Wanda?. Perhaps a wonderous family will be created from Simon and Wanda. I wah wah wah wah Wonder.
One of the most mind-blowing episodes from Screencrush! 👌
Thanks for the content
Wow this makes a lot of sense, good theory bro. 👍🏼
YES! I've been saying this theory ever since The Eternals came out. At least the part about the eternal seed being the source of the Vibranium, I hadn't taken to this extent.
i love this theory cuz it makes so much sence. I don't really see how it could play out any other way, especially if thunderbolts is gonna be a war for vibranium. Vibranium is the key to mutants, and superhumans are the key to winning the multiversal war. Kang will then think he's won but then doom will step in and create battle world.
Pure Genius, can't wait to see it all come together.
On the money ryan ! Your theory makes alot of sense.
Hats off bro!
Thanks Ryan!
you mentioned that in the comics it says vibranium can amplify magic… so no Dr. Doom?
This sounds like Kang & Dr. Doom… both like to use ppl as pawns/puppets … I’m excited to see what secret wars story they go with
Wow!! This blew my mind!!
Dude...i love your videos
This was an amazing theory. Thank you for sharing
Always have and always will love the MCU and will be present for everything that they release. But right now I'm more excited about what's coming then I've been in a long time.
Thank you!!!❤
he really pulled a sauron huh.
"identify what your opponent (heroes) most fears (evil), and give them a means of mastering it (mutation, artifacts, vibranium, etc). so that you (kang) can master them."
I love your theory's they always make sense, The MCU needs to hire you buddy. They need some one with your type of idea 💡.
Ill second that. If Ryan arey and Erik Voss from new rockstars were consultants, everything would be tighter.
@@The_Infamous_Boogyman Good idea but if they were consultants for Marvel Studios, they can't create Marvel-related TH-cam video anymore.
@@namdo_8286 aww dang that's right.
@@The_Infamous_Boogyman Do you have any other recommendation for Marvel-related TH-cam channels?
@@The_Infamous_Boogyman no TF it wouldn't. Voss is cringe and has bad theories.
This is incredible 💯
Maybe Kang was the one who went back in time to the creation of the planet, killed a celestial (in guardians of the Galaxy we see a beheaded celestial but not the body) and made sure the vibranium from his armor was sent to Earth to ensure his birth in the 31st century had the available technology to be able to time travel.
BRO!!!! You're a freaking genius for fleshing this out so deeply. This theory is WILD
I hate watching sponsor announcements on other channels but for some reason this guy makes me want to listen 😂😂 weird
Can I just say, genius giving doug a voice. I come for the excellent marvel news and i subscribed for Doug.
This is a very smart analysis that I hope comes to be in the MCU moving forward.
YOU JUST BLEW MY MIND
You just burned my brain out and I liked it
I love the intro music
All I know is Dr. Doom better get his hands on some Vibranium then go HAM
the presentation of your videos are so creative. How much time have you invested in marvel? They owe you a check
Your hair piece is looking kinda funky @ 6:00 in this video, Ryan. 🤭🤫😬😉
Ryan - how do you go to all the trouble of linking up the technological and magical properties of Vibranium without bringing Victor von Doom into this?
I love your dog!!
Namor made “a sun” for his people out of vibranium, it looks suspiciously similar to the power core we see Kang handle in the quantumania trailer
Dude was so smart yet forgot he couldn't be out of the water for 2 minutes with out dying 🤣
@@brynlpz83 What's worse is that any given moment after the crash he could've taken a fast dip as it was only 50 yards away but he decided to chase panther's tight ass.
@@wolfura Isn't there a Miss or Mrs Namor in the picture?
You’re right on!
You just blew my mind.
This theory is genius!!!!! Great job
Good video
This movie needs to get a emmy it was a great movie
Which movie? Movies don't get Emmys.
What are you talking about
i mean... this channel is amazing :D
I was nodding along to this. Awesome theory, I can't wait to see how it plays out.
I'm happy you're saying Namor like he did and not Naymore.
Edit: spelling.
Woah it all make sense. 😮
I just came from seeing the movie with my brother and his fiance and we enjoyed it from start to finish. What a great movie it was as well as a heartfelt tribute to Chadwick Boseman. Now we're looking forward to seeing how things go in Phase 5 of Marvel.
I have another theory about Kang. He is not the ancestor of any one earth superhero, but the descendant of several hundred superheroes and villains. Think about it. If he is from the 30th century, that is roughly 40 generations (if a generation is 25 years) in the future. More than long enough for different superheroes to have children, those children have children, and eventually one couple has a child that becomes Kang. He has the genetic memory of all his ancestors and that subconsciously guides him to find the tech to travel through time and set off the Kang Wars over and over again. Of course, there was one universe, the 616, where Thanos was defeated and a key ancestor, Tony Stark, dies early. This gives a version of Kang a different idea about how to win the Kang war and, as you said, stop the Multiversal time loop. Just a thought.
I love that Doug, Literally described an ingredient that even I'm unaware of 😂😂 "Yes, yes I got all that but also, hints of Alaskan Glacier Mineral Clay" 🤣 10/10 mini skit 2:05
How does Age of Ultron get better with each passing year 🔥🔥
Ultron still has human teeth 😬
Either way you on point with all of its salute
screencrush keeps getting better and better. HEY RYAN-- Other than Doug, how many people help you with this channel???
I really hope that at least one of the upcoming MCU projects will have a direct connection to the Eternals movie, because right now it feels like Eternals is a standalone film without much connection to the rest of the MCU.
Not gonna lie, I like this theory. A lot.
This is mind blowing
THIS THEORY IS AMAZING!
do you remember all those Ultron meteor quotes? or do you constantly rewatch every movie to put this all together? great job!
“They used it to make a frisbee” 🤣🤣🤣
I never understood that because it came out when I was a little kid
a very interesting video
3:41 The vibranium that landed in Wakanda could have been the same as landed by Mexico. Meteors often break apart as they enter; or, it could have been multiple pieces that orbited each other, which then crashed into the earth. So, it could be the same time, but the one from Talocan landed in the ocean, so was found much later.
Yukatan Meteor is inferred to be the same one that killed Dinosaurs. Only 1 meteor EVER hit that specific area. Making it roughly 65 Million years old.
According to the opening dialogue of Black Panther, it was stated to make an impact in Wakanda roughly 2 million years ago. Hence they are definitely not shards or breakaways of any nature from a singular meteorite. It is impossible.
I had the same thought. I would love for them to pull in Antarctic vibranium from the comics. Shuri could use her knowledge of the two know locations and extrapolate the most reasonable places on earth to search if a single meteorite had broken up and landed in multiple spots as it fell to earth. Setting up a fight for the control of vibranium outside Wakanda.
Ms. Basset will have her Oscar NOW please!
Cool theory and I reckon you could be onto something with it! The only thing I could think of is when you said vibranium wasn't found outside of Earth and is the strongest metal, but then how does Thanos splinter Cap's shield with his weapon? Does that mean his blade was made of vibranium or something else?
How could you have this theory where Kang is going to use the heroes heroism to fight for him... but NOT mention how he asked Antman to do something for him?! That would be perfect evidence!
I love that you used the office in our video lol
Damn, Kang's really going to go through all this just for Doctor Doom to kill him.
Nah Doom needs his own phase like Kang . Not thrown in at the end
If you notice they're only blue when they get out of water they are there regular skin tone when they're underwater
Great theories....
Marvel, employ this man already! Stop ignoring his creative talents. Ryan Arey will do wonders in your universe!💪👍😊
thats one heck of a long internal commercial right off the bat
Now I know Kang usually is a solo worker, but what if he needed some allies who might see the value of a new universe. My first guesses are Ajax and some Kree. Ajax would have felt Druig's obejevtions and she knew the real plan of the Celestials and she was firmly on humanity's side by the time we caught up with her. And the Kree would have had the Skrull issue, so they know a little eugenics. And then the exposure to vibranium is what the MCU is substituting for Terregen mist. But they will all slowly be activated as soon as Kang needs his pawns and Sheng Chi's bangles gave him that alert it was go time. But its possible he is not counting on some that happened before he wanted them to, like Carol, Bruce and Jen, and Wade. I still feel like the people who turn the tides will be Jen and Wade realizing they can see through things
This a great theory. I think Uranos, uncle of Thanos and Eros will be the next villain in the eternals sequel. He may secretly serve Kang to initiate his conquest as a signal like you mentioned how the rings and bangles does the same role. I would love to see Ajax being revived to warn the uncaptured eternals from celestials to fight Uranos before he tags with Kangs mission. I would also love to see if Druig betrays the squad similarly how he cut ties multiple times in the comics.
Ryan, there should be at least 3 more giant heavy meteorites that hits the Earth in the MCU. 4th is Vibranium that may be in the savage land, 5th is Adamantium that hits Africa, the the 6th, by FAR THE LARGEST AND HEAVIEST
Wow amazing how you put all that together. I do have a question. How is metal different from wolverines? I thought his metal came from a meteor too
Makes the most sense.