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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- This video showcases a series of cars which were planned to appear in Gran Turismo 2, but sadly, never made it into the game.
In fact, these cars were barely started at all. Most of them only appear as text strings on the demos, while some had logos created for them as well.
I need to give a big thanks to Submaniac93 and SuperFrizzio, who massively helped out with this video, by providing information, codes, photos, and more.
Information about these cars was sourced from various places, including The Cutting Room Floor. It's an awesome site that catalogues various beta features, glitches, bugs etc. on multiple games, including Gran Turismo!
The images of the real-life cars were sourced from various places again. If I've accidentally used a copyrighted image, and you're the copyright holder, don't hesitate to get in touch with me and we can work it out.
Music: Satoshi Bandoh - When The Rains Come (Gran Turismo 5)
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If only licensing and rushed development weren't a problem, we would have seen Diablos, Paganis, Ferrari's and McLaren's along with other cars in GT2.
I'm with you there. I wish there were at least mods to reimplement them.
And never forget Special Stage Route 11
@@RiccardoTheBeAst though they've readded it in gran turismo 3 as a remake, Special Stage Route 11 was an amazing track, under-appreciated by polyphony
@Shadow Hedgehog The drag racing cars are hilarious to use on normal tracks if you are a masochist.
Yea your right
The XJR-16 project was an entire disaster, from the get-go to the race days.
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your voice makes me clear my throat lol
nah
I see you have the blue GT2 disk.
Try rubbing it with a piece of cloth, or fingers if you really like it - and sniff them. The old blue disc was coated in scratch and sniff, with a scent I would like you to try to identify on your own.
Personally i think its super rad.
gran turismo came a long way now has both ruf and porsche
But I’m in mobile I can’t see the join button
Gran Turismo 2 Plus restores some of those cars and also removes regional lock, so you can have Vauxhall and Opel at the same time.
I suggest to check it out!
47:46 That's the Endless Tommy Kaira R on super Taikyu. Because the Bodykit suggest that
Gran Turismo never actually featured CLK GTR, "technically".
The models for GT4, 5 and 6 are CLK LM. Even in GT5, the Dev realised and changed the name from CLK GTR to CLK LM.
The change from Esso to Exxon in the North American version was for legal rather than licensing reasons. As it is an obvious reference to Standard Oil, the 'Esso' name cannot be used in states where the rights to the 'Standard' name are owned by Chevron or BP.
6:43 i had that car as a Toy
It's crazy when you really look at it, most "Racing Modifications" in the older games were used as workarounds for licensing issues, which is why I believe why it took so long to return in GT5. It's interesting but disappointing at the same time.
If PS1 had internet connection these cars would be available via DLC
But you would have had to pay for those DLCs. I've never paid for a DLC based on principle. You buy a game and it should have everything in it. If not? The game is rubbish and the developers are greedy.
@@mattl1962 ok but every game thats successful usually has some type of dlc, nobody is greedy. try making a game with high detailed models (for that time) without any type of extra pay for doing that work and see how far your motivation to even care gets you. im pretty sure you would just be murdering your time and effort for other peoples happiness without any type of pay other than getting"muh were happy, omg they listen to us because free kar, omgeee best game dev ever". like seriously this type of criticism gets old because its usually from people who are stuck up and cant just cough up a few bucks to support the devs.(unless its microtransactions everywhere then i understand). times have changed and so has the methods of obtaining cash for work you arent even obligated to do, so suck it up or just dont buy it at all that simple.
@@Richlovescars you don't pay a subscription service to use (most) cars (currently) - why should you when you buy a computer game?
@@Richlovescars it's not my problem EA, Ubisoft etc don't want to pay what devs are actually worth. They should be getting wayyyy better pay and the answer does NOT lie in microtransactions my friend.
@@Richlovescars if a company can charge 90 - 100 dollars per game sold - they can pay every single dev over 100,000 per game, but they don't because the marketing department get the glory because let's face it they do the work of getting most games so popular in the first place, despite not adding any actual value to the game.
dude, i love this type of video... thanks a lot
Thanks!
18:27 That's actually the CLK LM. In game, it is mislabeled as the GTR. The LM had a different body shape as well as a V8 instead of a V12. The name of the car would be corrected in later GT games.
Watching this 3years later , what an excellent video 👌👌👌
Great amount of research! Really enjoying all the "cut content" videos
11:02 i find it wierd that there's a Gran Turismo logo on this Porsche. If anything i would expect it to have a NFS logo not a GT one. Maybe it's a further leftover of Porsche's in the game.
Though this reply came a while later & would still interest some, possibly early next year an update to the GT2+ mod will come out, that has a few more cut cars restored. Like the E36 3-Series, becoming the 323i Coupe, as well as the A4 Avant along with other ones that have been cut & restored in that same mod. Though ones that only have their names & logos won't be, as there was nothing made in the first place for some of them, even in earlier versions. Things like the C55, and those RUF's will be coming through, as they aren't much different to the models in-game, which have been used to restore them. But in the end, some of these have been brought through. Not all, but still quite a nice amount.
I can't beat the GT40 in rome circuit :(
If you get the Toyota MR2 GTS and Go for the racing modifications you'll get that GT40 in no-time at all
take the escudo
@Damar Fadlan R32
The CLK-GTR in NFS series is also in NFS Hot Pursuit 2. Its my favourite car, beside the Lambo Diablo, And McLaren F1.
Do you make videos about Gran Turismo that specifically for PSP version? I really wanna know more about that.
17:19 wryyyyyy
That's absolutely the right pronunciation of RUF
Finally, after 20 years of thinking it was R.U.F... ;)
The Tuscan Speed 6 is in GT2, unless the one you’re talking about was a slight variation? Anyway, I’m using it right now for the Grand Valley 300Km race.
As far as I know, they're similar. Maybe the Speed Six is a top-end variant.
At 45:33 I think the bmw showed in the image is an e46, while the real life counterpart is an e36 series, but I'm not sure about this....
*Anyway great job with this video, well done!!!!
CLKツーリングカー、155とカリブラが入ったんだから欲しかったな…
Dude, what a wonderful video! I absolutely love it, thank you.
The Altezza is so popular now
Pensar que casi todos los autos nombrados en el video hoy son canon gracias al mod a spec, el cual ha permitido disfrutar de diseños muy especiales 🔥
That was such an interesting watch, love GT2 so much. I remember reading about the japanese version having the diablo in magazines back in the day like. maaaan i wanna drive that!
18:00 its also in Need For Speed 3 PS1&PC :D it has the proper Racing design youst not decal`s, btw the one in NFS3 has the proper mirror`s in yellow btw :)
PS1 version to PC do differ both in nfs3 also nfs4 :) awesome video as allways :)
Thanks, I'll check that out!
9:05 ah excellent, I will receive no lecture or ridicule for calling it R.U.F XD
Such a shame the Lambos, Ferraris, Porches, and McLaren couldn't make it. It wouldn't be much representation for their rich history, but it would've been so so neat, but at the same time, we probably would've missed out on Vector, Venturi, RUF, and Lister, so I'm glad we didn't get them. Of course I would love to have gotten both, but I'm happy with what we did get.
There's too much Toyota Altzeea on this video lol
Who else to see cut cars to playable in GT2 A-Spec?
Is there any way to make the model for this cars ?
I wish they brought back Tahiti Road
Imagine getting a full car livery for a Porsche race car only to have EA say:
yoU cANt dO tHaT PorSChE hAS a DeAL wItH uS
The other games feature Renault Spider and only game had Spider Trophy is, Apex/Racing Evoluzione for Xbox.
Fantastic Video as always! Great work, keep it up!
Thanks Alex, I appreciate it!
This turned from gran turismo to test drive 6
the SuperFlow 993 GT2 was awesome
At least we got the Pikes Peak Escudo!
What about that Prius?
love the music
Nice video man!
Thanks!
is it just me.... or is the background music really soothing?
I love grand Turismo I played it for hours I only wish I still had a system to play it
woah the fact that this movie is almost an 1hour long...plenty of cars must've been cut
Writing this comment before starting the video !
Nice Video of the cut cars from Gran Turismo 2.
Thanks!
This video made an article on Jalopnik: jalopnik.com/the-lost-cars-cut-from-gran-turismo-2-1838857183
22:53 Just Savin time
12:59 aim think the dodge stratus es racing modification is drag car but is a routing car
Where do we find the codes for these... that work?
Ive found some before ... but they never work for me.
I'm sure those XJR-15s are blue...surely they're not green? Or am I colour blind?
RUF cars are much better than Porsche's.
Btw I used to say Ruff 😅😂
fantastic work!!
Thank you!
That was a really good video, lots of cars I didn't know before!
Ford Escort RS2000 also returned for the Mk5 & Mk6 generations, personally I strongly suspect it would've been a Mk6 Escort, considering it could've then shared most of the 1.8 GTI's body, in the same way there were different versions of the Focus. But a Mk1 Escort would've been cooler...
GT300のシルビアでGT500のマシン抜いてて草
Where is the join button
Watching this and sooo hoping to hear something about my mazda mx6..
:(
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海外版ディーラーのカラー写真いいな
XJR15 looks like a pagani prototype
Between us, GT3 would've been the best racing game had it kept the Diablos, Ferraris, Porsches, McLarens... At least the racing versions. If it also had the Venturi, Vector, Plymouth, the GT2 European and American and Pre-tuned Japanese cars, the cool circuits in GT2, thé standard would've been raised so high, it would've been impossible for any racing game to be even close until Forza 2 and 3.... Almost six years later.... And even Forza would've been a much better series. I admit that GT3 is second only to one game : GT2.... GT4 was disappointing compared to me, believe it or not.
the rest of US/UK made car video games graphics are butt ugly and cars moved like shiiit compared to grantursimo
once i saw granturismo in mid 90s ,,,,i never looked away ,,,not need for speed , test drive , toca shit ...etc
until forza came now here is a series competitor finaly after decades
Everybody's a gangsta until the GT40 appeared on pole position in Rome 💆
I still remember how I kept restarting the race to get one that doesn't include that baddie! 😂
Y'all sucks, i won against 2 GT40 even as I comply with the stage's limitation
The Japanese text roughly means “Logo data not prepared.”
Cool
The amount of research that must go into these are insane. Keep up the good work!!
Thanks, I will!
This video in a nutshell:
Play ADVAN GT or the official JGTC PS1 game in order to experience the car.
Are they the same?
@@davencherry845 yes, but actually no, but in reality, yes, but it is not the same experience, but also a gimmick
@@davencherry845 You have licensed JTCC cars due to Atlus' title sponsorship, but for JGTC only Advan livery cars are real.
Fascinating video as always!
One correction/clarification: The cut BMW 3 Series coupes were based on the E36 chassis, whereas the ones in the final game used the E46 generation that followed. Shame Polyphony actually modeled the E36 coupe body but never released it!
Have those boys been whacking off in your tool shed again?
Thanks, Tom!
@@mattiapresti7295 In Poland, there were more M3s than actually manufactured ;) each and every wannabe street racer placed M logos on their 316/318s 😂
And you know what's funny: in gt2 you cannot change rims on BMW unless with cheat that changes car wash to wheel changer
There is no single feature I miss more in Gran Turismo than the racing modification that absolutely got me hooked to the original game. I could never get enough of the excitement that is going to the tuning shop to look at is after acquiring a new/used/prize car, no matter which one. The Peugeot 406 is a perfect example.
Same here.
Drinking game: drink after every "jgtc" 😂 😂 😂
*kimi raikkonen has joined the session*
Count me in!
I'm drunk driving on gt3 now
Tried but now ded
@@Power5 At leas you had a good new years eve lol
1:45 Is that Jimmy Broadbent? xD
It looks just like him lol
Hahahahahahahaha
That's Henry Catchpole a British car journalist
TX3_ Rollbay no, it's the jimmer!
I swear I thought the same thing!
Licensing is so dumb at times, at 11:00 you literally have a Porsche racing car with a GRAN TURISMO logo on it, and they still wouldn't be allowed to use the car in the game.
Hopeful quid pro quo that did not pan out as they hoped. That is my guess. Give them money for sponsorship and hope that buys you licensing opportunity for your game.
Shows perhaps a lack of foresight from Porsche. Being grown-up now, the Playstation gen may prefer to spend their salaries on featured cars like Lotus Elises, R34 GTRs and Type R Hondas rather than Porsches because all the fond memories of thrashing them round Tsukuba on Gran Turismo.
@@LexTNeville lucky for them, there was NFS: Porsche Unleashed. The game where I first met the 996 GT3.
In real life there was only ever a '98 road version of the GT-One that's because it was a requirement of the regulations of Le mans in 1998 because it was competing in the GT1 category however the GT1 category was upgraded to GTP in 1999 because the cars that raced in that Category were more akin to prototypes than true GT cars so although there was a racing version of the '99 Toyota GT-One race car which was quicker still than the '98 version no road version was required this time so no road version of the '99 GT-One race car actually ever existed.
Are there GT4 cut cars as well? If so, you could make a vid about it
I really enjoyed this and didn’t know about that blue / silver MR2, thanks pal!
40:00
Thanks Tommy!
Haven't watched the entire video yet, but man the Esso / Exxon transition at 3:17 is real smooth.. Someone give this man a cookie
😎
Amazing video as always. I really love the fact that you don't just show the cars, but talk about them and teach us a little about the history of the vehicles. You should do a video about the Advan and JGTC racing games on PS1 too. Cheers!
Thanks - glad you found it interesting!
Coming back to this video nearly 3 years later and I cannot believe we're going to be getting MANY of these text-string/early cut demo cars to drive as originally intended in the upcoming Project A-Spec mod of Gran Turismo 2 like the Renault Sport Spider and its race car variants COMPLETE with visible interiors, the JLOC Diablo, the FINA and SOK McLaren F1 race cars, the C-Class Touring Car/DTM '95, the STP Taisan Porsche RSR '99 as I saw in a screenshot of it's model, and even the Ferrari F355 among so many other cut and non-GT2 intended cars!
Spoiler: we're also gonna see F1 cars from the 1999 season
Great vid Matt, it's amazing to see more and more content from old *GT* to this day, And for *GT* memes xD
Thanks!
Do this for all of the rest of the gt games.
I remember seeing the Escort 1.8 GTI on the demo disc was a shame it didn’t make the final game. I had a 1.8 Si in real life. The fact they also planned the RS2000 Mk2 Escort shows they knew us Europeans love for fords. I really wish by now in the GT series we would have the following and I’d really love a really large choice of cars in GT7. Cars we need are Escort RS Turbo Series 1 and 2, and if spoiling us the XR3 and XR3i. Fiesta we would need Mk2 XR2, they actually showed this model in the museum section of GT5. Perhaps the RS Turbo too. A Sierra RS Cosworth and XR4X4 2.9 would be a great nod to the 80’s early 90’s. With how popular Fords of this era were it would be awesome to have XR’s and RS’s Fiesta and Escorts in game. If anyone knows KAZ have a word with him👍
40 minutes well spent! Lots of informations and a very enjoyable video. Good work Matt!
True!
Thanks both!
35:21 Probably the most famous JGTC moment and I'm sure a lot of you have seen it at some point, it's the crash where he and a Porsche driver lose control on the formation lap due to the track being too wet, then crashing in to each other and exploding on impact.
@Sean -Kun AFAIK Ota is still alive to this day, although Yamaji died of an illness in 2014. Not sure about Sunako in the Porsche.
Sean -Kun did you just kill these people off?
Nobody:
MattJ155: this was also in the official JGTC game and advan racer for the ps1
I love when videos like these are made on any game. We get a little insight of what developers wanted to do. I just wish with Gran Turismo 2 somebody could reverse engineer it and make removed content available/coded back into the game
Late reply, but... guess what? this just happened: look for "Project A-Spec" mod for gran turismo 2, you'll be surprised to know they added 50 cars (JUST FOR NOW)
The funny part of this is that Codemasters released TOCA 1 and 2 for the PS1, but since they had the EXCLUSIVE rights to use the supertourers from the BTCC at the time (and possibly the rights to use the Renault Spyders as they were a support series to the BTCC at the time), Sony and Polyphony couldn't use them. The same can be said of ATLUS, whose case is even more damning and bizarre considering that the entirety of the Persona series and some of the Shin Megami Tensei games was released on Sony hardware, but it was also because they held not just the exclusive rights to use JTCC cars in their games (via Advan Racer, also released on the PS1), they were also one of the main sponsors of the championship (note the lack of ATLUS sponsorship on the Racing Modification version of the Honda Accord, it's not a coincidence, ATLUS had to have said "no" at some point).
All in all, licencing is a hornet's nest of incomprehensible nonsense and contradictions. And it was actually worse then than it is today.
10:36 The name "Yellow Bird" also came from the sounds of the crazy turbocharger wastegates.
Great video!
The 320Ci and 323Ci that are featured in the game are the E46 generation.
The ones that got deleted were the E36 generation.
👍
Thanks Kev!
@@MattJ155 You're very welcome!
If it wasn't for the rush of Christmas, we would have seen them all prim and proper.
Damn Sony
The cut Mini was most likely going to be based on the Mini Miglia, which is raced in a support race for the BTCC. It would have featured widebody arches and immense levels of grip. Due to the sheer amount of miglias raced though, what livery would featured on it is anyone's guess.
Good shout! I'll guess we'll never know for sure.
Hi Matt, I've been watching your videos since 2009, 2010, and I've been watching your videos like The Gran Turismo 2 Secret Cars. I was impressed when I saw the secret cars like the CLK Race Car and the Volkswagem Polo. In that case I kept looking for more and more things about the secrets of the GT franchise after 10 years playing the Gran Turismo series. I hope this goes on and show more secrets of this franchise to all players. And this is a fantastic vídeo, I liked very much.
Fantastic work overall between you and the other two. I honestly thought you presented the scrapped cars well enough and gave a better explanation of them than I would've done.
With that said, I do have some things to say on some of these scrapped cars. Starting with the BMW 3-Series, the scrapped ones are actually e36s. Which were the generation before the actual 3-Series in the final game. I also think the RMs for those possibly could've been based on other real-life BTCC liveries like other RMs in GT2 were. Man though, scrapping that e36 was a missed opportunity. PD could've altered the model and made it into an e36 M3 instead.
A thing to note about the CLK-GTR in GT4, it's actually the CLK-LM, not the GTR. (CLK LM has a v8 while the GTR has a V12). The CLK-GTR is also in NFS:HP2, MC3 Dub Edition, multiple Forza games, and in PGR4 to note. The CLK-LM I believe also appeared in Forza Motorsport 1 and is in both Project Cars 1 & 2. Finally for Rufs, another livery that one of Ruf RMs could've been was the Ruf CTR2 Pikes Peak car that was out at that time. I do think it's more likely that the Ruf RMs would've been based on Porsche 911 JGTC cars since PD originally planned to add those to GT2, but I just wanted to mention the Pikes Peak car for the heck of it.
Thanks man! There are always little things I overlook...
@@MattJ155 You're welcome! and it happens to me too.
Thanks to GT2 A-Spec, some cut cars restored along new and original cars.
As of now, Ferrari FCJ F355s were yet to be made....
very good video
doctor: you have 1 hour to live
me:
Lets get this straight: back then in the originally planned GT2, we were supposed to have Paganis, McLaren, Porsche, Lamborghini and Ferrari?????? That way GT2 would have been the best game ever! What a dream to get an update version of the game comprehensive of all the cut contents. Such a shame
14:10 you can also see a photo of the Escort in the GT2 demo discs simulation mode at Ford dealership. Yes, they were about to use real life photos as thumbnails
It really is amazing to see all the cut content from Gran Turismo 2. The game is already jam packed full of great and quirky cars. Hard to believe there were originally going to be even more. Great video!
One more potential version of the Renault Sport Spider tha it could have been (and more likely to have been as a standalone model like the string suggests), is the unique JGTC GT300 car that ran in 1997. I didn't know about that one-make series however, that's very cool! I personally would've put that racing car as the RM for the stock Spider if I'd been in charge :D
www.diariomotor.com/competicion/imagenes/2016/02/RenaultSpiderJGTC.jpg
Oh and while writing this i just found out the car also was entered in Le Mans 1996, with a V6 swapped into it: i.wheelsage.org/pictures/r/renault/sport_spider_v6_le_mans/renault_sport_spider_v6_le_mans.jpeg
A very cool looking car that also could've been a potential Racinc model..
About the RUF BR2, BR4, BTR4, and CR4, I can' say for sure because I don' have their actual appearances, but they all have unique bodies, with slight variations in front/rear bumpers, exhausts, mirrors, taillights and I believe wheels as well (although the wheels are still standard RUF wheels).
About the BMW, they are different because they are E36, while the final game use all E46 models, except for the E36 Compact. The RMs of all the E46 coupes is based on the 1996 Fina liveried, STC E36. (Much later mentioned so nevermind :D)
The CLK race Car that's hidden in GT2, is eerily similar to a concept that was present ed by Mercedes for the ew DTM rules of 2000, called the CLK DTM 2000. I made a replica mod of it for GT2 since I thought it had to have been this car's design that was meant to be on it.
The Golf Cabriolet I think would have had its top closed, like all other converitbles in GT1 and 2.
About the Polo mk3 that's hidden in final GT2, it actually has 2 opponent entries, one of which you can enoutner by playing the random Event Generator with a ~120-150hp car (the opponent entry has 140-ish HP as it was meant to appear in the compact car cup.
About the Silvia GT2's potential green color, I did find a green with yellow colored windshield banner S14 JGTC.
Right here: 3.bp.blogspot.com/_gYH9Be9uhsY/TBQGHDvwQ3I/AAAAAAAABPo/f0EFk7hmjDw/s1600/s14+jgtc+4.jpg
Fun fact about the XYR, and specifically the Celica Rally Car ZZT231. The japanese game's name for it is the Celica XYR Rally Car. So it might have been he XYR's racing modificaion made standalone too.
About the MR-S Race Mod, I recently found photos af a Super Taikyu MR-2 SW20 race car with similar colors, which I wonder if it's the inspiration behind this RM.
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Fun fact about the Storm GT! It was driven by Tiff Needell :P
If you ever want to do a video about Racing Modification ispired by real life cars, boi is there a lot to mention. I lot a couple of images a while ago to HDD failures but i have a good amount of cars back in my folder :D
Also you're welcome! Glad to have helped :)
Damn, you know your racing cars! Are you a woman in real life?
@@paxhumana2015 Thanks! All through lucky finds and internet roaming :D
And nope, i'm a guy :)
Thanks, man. Always a pleasure to read your comments. :) I'll definitely do a GT2 RMs in real life soon, so I'll need your help with that!
@@MattJ155 You know where to find me :D
I will read it ahahahah
When your car is sponsored by both Playstation and Gran Turismo but you don't license your cars for their game.