I always bought the red SW20 as a kid. I thought it was criminal how there was such a cool car for so cheap (and available from the beginning of the game). Then 15 years later I bought a real one. And still feel the same way. There's nothing out there that matches the price:cool ratio of the SW20.
I got an SW20 while they were cheap, like really cheap, and then sold it for a decent profit, but now ik I could've gotten so much more out of it, not only price, but the amount of time spent, I miss it, but now they're like 15k instead of 3500
I'm really glad to see someone finally mentioning the Cougar as a great alternative, it is really a hidden gem. Sure the grind for S license isn't great but that thing can take you almost through the entire american events and even the 1000 miles
The fact that my go to car, the RX-7 GT-X (FC, J) is actually a pretty great starting choice made me happy. Younger me definitely made the right pick when I first played this game without a single doubt!
@@bobthebuilder9509 always seems like whichever racing game has it as a pick, the GT-X (FC) always is a standout pick, either because it can fit well in a Japanese 90's Cup thanks to its performance numbers or because its a good starter option for just starting out the game. Gran Turismo definitely sells it as a good starter for those who have experience or even those just wanting something more than a Civic or any other hatchback.
I think the dc2 Integra type r was overlooked in this list. it was 7 grand and it works great as a starter. I put comfort tires and add 50kg ballast for the "girlfriend thats too dependent" penalty and it's incredibly fun to drive
A favourite starter of mine is the 1990 Mazda RX7, but one that holds a special place in my heart, as my first ever starter car, is the Nissan Primera 2.0 (Infiniti G20). That is a joy to drive
Me too love the 1990 RX7. And dont forget Pontiac Solstice Coupe and Silvia as my additional starter cars. On FR challenge, the Silvia still struggled even with upgrades.
Suzuki Cappuccino. Rush Concept 2 by winning Suzuki Kei Cup, then upgrade to win Suzuki Concept cup to get GSX R/4. Congrats, you now have a 4 wheeled Hayabusa, which can win most Professional series.
I love informational videos like this. Even if I know most of the stuff, it’s still fun to listen to. Plus there’s almost always at least one thing to learn. I might even try a few cars I never have before.
I remember buying the 90's mirage and discovering the mirage cup and the 70's mirage ai would always leave the 90's ones in the dust and I was thinking damn is the 70's mirage that much better? nope, another one of those race specific things. good thing I found out from the video that that's a beginners trap before starting a run with it (granted I never actually checked the stats on the 70's mirage). :D
Excellent, comprehensive video. Well-edited, insightful commentary, and great analysis. Gran Turismo 4 is such a timeless classic, I've been very happy to see it rise again in popularity nearly 20 years after its release, in no small part due to its coverage by Yellowbird and TeaKanji. Well done!
Noticing some similarities between GT2 and GT4 with the starter cars, many of the cars that were good in GT2 are still good choices in GT4. ‘90 RX-7, Silvia K’s S13, ‘89 Skyline GTS-t, Toyota Celica GT-R, Toyota Trueno. I began both my GT2 and GT4 playthrough with the Skyline GTS-t and it’s delighting to see it perform well in both games.
the video is really good, deep in information and covers all early and license prize cars, but I wouldn't say it's a comprehensive list. If you check the used car dealers in between completing licences, you can get some pretty good starter cars: evos (II,III), which are better than the evo I first gen STIs, which decimate the early game, have a lot of potential with upgrades, can access (and be competitive) in lots of events and have a manufacturer event that can be beaten with a stage 1 turbo SW20s, but this time the GTS, which is an op starter in gt4, and I'd say quite better than the G-limited, which iirc cannot have a turbo there's probably more I left, but these are the ones that come to mind. (also STIs can be quite competitive in boxer cup without spending too much money, and you know what that means ;) )
Yes, I get this argument. However, I wanted to cover all the cars available at day 1, as covering other cars would open a lot of doors, dare I say, more advanced strategies.
I looked past it because I didn't watch any GT4 speedruns. I knew I was missing something by not doing so, unfortunate. (Even if I kind of intended it to be for A-Spec only, still)
The Acura DN-X is quite interesting as an early car. It doesn't quite feel right to me in normal races so I haven't used it much, but it's by far the fastest car I've tried so far for dirt tracks. With so much grip on the rear wheels, it's less likely to slide around corners and can even make use of the full 580 HP it can be upgraded to, while others tend to struggle for grip when upgraded to 420-440 HP. Being a NA car, it also has a wider and smoother power band than all the turbo rally cars for better corner exits. The only problems are that it requires a bit of care on the throttle around corners due to lack of VCD, and you need to finish the dirt races before buying any weight reductions or it becomes uncontrollable.
The Civic type R was my first and I think it's great. I sold the race spec Civic I won from the Civic club and it gave me quite a lot of money very early in the game
For me i usually bought Civic, much like you, and later Impreza Spec C 2004 and later i also sold Impreza Race Car (Prize car from Stars of Pleiades) to get quite a ton of cash early in the game, probably around $1.965.398.
If you want an awesome start, do the B lisence, then go to early 90s used cars and buy a Honda Integra Type R DC2 for 8.8k. It can beat Sunday, FF and Capri rally stock with oil change and wash. Japan 90s cup and Type R meeting should be possible with Stage 1 Weight and Turbo/NA Tuning, Racing chip and whatever other handling mods you want. Those handling upgrades are optional... I think. And I haven't done the Type R meeting yet. But it should do it atleast if the NSX doesn't show up. I did this as I started GT4 on Emulator recently and it has been quite easy in the early game. Thanks to this guide and TeaKanji's for helping me with GT4.
Awesome video, as usual, but I'm wondering if you limited to the used cars that are only available on week 1. Because doing even just the B- license will cycle the days and the car list is different every single week. The 97 Camaro Z28 for example is pretty OP, it's available on week 4 and I believe it's under 10K (I could be wrong). Omitting cars that aren't on week one is understandable to keep the video length reasonable, but many/most people won't and don't need to buy a car on week one (the Lupo is free anyways), given you can't do much without a B license. I'm planning on doing a playthrough using only cars I've actually owned IRL, which should get me through everything in the beginner and professional hall except for Kei, pre-70s, trucks, boxer engines, and GTWC (although I want to beat the GTWC in a non-LMP).
Yeah seems only week 1 used cars were pointed out. I think at the very least (if we were going for full comprehension and had time for testing) a look at weeks 1-5’s roster would be great, since you need 5 weeks minimum to complete the B and A licenses. Honestly since we were also considering S license prizes in the form of the Cougar, it might be cool checking out used cars through Week 12. Still, Yellowbird’s list is definitely pretty comprehensive and in-depth already, so maybe he could do the other starters as another video? EDIT: If we wanted to be REALLY overkill we could probably mention used cars you can afford by selling license prizes. I’m pretty sure there’s a couple gems in the early game you just barely won’t be able to afford that could be circumvented with a little boost in cash (or by importing a GT3 save, but in that case why are you still here? lol)
@@bobthebuilder9509 Yeah, although it's very common for people to get the 3,400 from the Lupo, that would make the video too long. But since the licenses are mandatory anyway, there are a bunch of later week cars that deserve mention. Also think the silver and gold prize cars are an unusual addition, but the 270R is stupidly good for the effort. I actually just learned there is a 1970 Honda in the historic showroom for 11K that has enough power to be competitive in the world classics (at least without a Cobra or Buick Special). Would make an interesting starter car.
While i think showing cars fron week 2 would be valid, if you want to grind any car past the B license, is because you absolutely don't want to buy your starter car;
Yeah, I think the part 2 of this video is a must have and at the end of it make a real tierlist in tiermaker. The cars should be judged by how many events they can win, value for money and how much fun is it to drive certain things
Most of the time I don't put LSD on the cars because I don't feel any difference. The upgrades I like the most are flywheel, clutch and engine balance, but I also prioritize suspension, ecu and exhaust.
Just a couple small corrections: - is dash, not slash, and nobody says "GTS dash T" it's, just a GTST when spoken aloud. Also, it's not a Silvia K S. It's pronounced Kays. And the Q's is pronounced queues. Otherwise very well produced and factual video! Well done Yellowbird!
Hey Yellowbird, loved the tierlist of all possible starter cars, really showed some alternative choices. Any chance for more of this sort of thing? Like the Used Dealerships in GT1 or 2? Or if not that, a bit more on GT4's listings? The used car cycles show even more hidden gems that could be great to grab, for example checking it after getting a license or two, like alot of players are liable to do, since the scope of this video was the perspective of a new players first choice.
Could've just skipped through until i found saw the car i was looking for but the video was to interesting to skip, super detailed and informative. Love it 👌👍
Started a new playthrough recently, went with the Toyota Starlet Glanza V as the starter car. Maybe not the best, but a pretty good one. Did the Sunday Cup and FF Challenge easy enough, at least. Got an 80’s Mitsubishi Gallant after that.
Im not sure if its in week one but i think the toyota supra mark 3 2.5liter is also a really great choice after selling the lupo from national b license
How do you know exactly the grip modifiers? From code or something else? And what is the list of the top highest grip cars? A list of all cars with grip modifiers, would be funny to see from highest to lowest.
It's from a database in the game's data called SpecDB. I made a spreadsheet last year using SpecDB data that shows each car's grip modifiers, wind drag, wheelbase and other hidden stats. You should be able to find it if you Google "gran turismo 4 specdb spreadsheet". Edit: oh, I forgot Yellowbird linked to it in the description of this video, so yeah, it's there. You should be able to sort the cars by grip modifiers.
Best tip for GT4 is doing the license tests first and get even some bronze prize cars are good to begin! An used car to buy: Nissan 300zx (can't remember the year), this one was always my pick to be the first used car to buy and it's an absolute beast!
This was a great video! I had no IDEA the old new civic could be a decent buy, what a cool thing. I also did the 100k credit transfer from GT Concept and bought an Audi RS4 so my path was very strange but I was a child and it was 2005 so 🤣
Selling the Lupo and Nismo 270R, after completing the licenses, to buy the TVR Griffith as a starter is still my favorite path. It's a crazy bargain for 20.500 CR and if you tune it properly it becomes an amazing race car. Super fun to drive.
Great video! But ive got to say, the title of "tierlist" is misleading considering you didnt make a tierlist for the cars. You just went over every possible starter car and listed their pro's and con's. Titling the video "Starter cars explained" would be more appropriate 😂 Cheers!
Did you watch the video? The tires are good, average, and bad. Which he says which tier the car would be in for each car.. doesn’t have to be visual, wouldn’t even fit on the screen lmao
The 1.4 lupo is actually an interesting car for me. It has a super wierd gearbox in this game wich allows it to have such ridiculous top speed of 150 mph(250 km/h). Sure it's too weak for such a gearbox but problem can be solved with an stage 1 turbo and nitrous. With this setup, good driving and some forza tricks you can win the Schwarzwald league A wich is going to give you the most wanted m3 gtr, only with 10 grands. It's mind-blowing. (The autumn ring is going to be a torture however)
If you’re willing to waste the first few weeks of Used car dealership lineups getting licenses, the GC8 Impreza Ver.2 eventually drops below 10k. It’s not as powerful as the later models but it is fantastic in so many races with gradual tuning, including Capri Rally Easy in Special Condition Events and Stars of Pleiades in Subaru one-make races.
I used to start with the S13 Silvia, but the FC RX-7 is in my opinion by far the best. You can tune it up to about 400-500hp and it'll still be very easy to drive, on top of being very fast stock for the price.
Any possibility of doing a list for Gran Turismo 3? I recently attempted a "Miata only" challenge and was able to get 25% game completion with it. Might be possible to squeeze out 26-27% but beyond that is probably impossible
PD had maked a 500hp daihatsu Which is called in NTSC-U and in the NTSC-J as Storia and in PAL as sirion,both the end words are rally car,yup i mention the Daihatsu Storia/Sirion rally car that only appeared in GT2 and didnt appeared in the later titles. And abit of the bad news is that beast has been fictional Rally Car.
Just started GT4 again but began by doing All Gold in the Licences and then Finishing the Mission Hall. Mission 34 is pure HELL on NTSC-J but the Reward is worth the Annoyance - R89C.
@@YellowbirdYT Definitely. The resets may as well be worth it given how it drives - a potential car to use in the GT Championship, Endurance and Extreme Hall. Did some races in the Regional halls to get to 25% so the cars I got from the Licenses, Missions Special Condition and Regional Halls are able to do REAL Damage. With a well timed purchase of a 10.0km Eunos Roadster, I'm able to do the 4hr Roadster Challenge and got a Yellow RX-7 LM. With a proper in game cash flow, I'm able to buy those 10.0km used cars without a care for its price. Now I just await the day where the 4 Black cars arrive at the used car lot.
im gonna go ahead and guess that the lancer evo 1 gsr will either be THE number 1 pick, or at least in the top 3 with minimal upgrades it can beat sunday cup, clubman cup, 4wd, the lancer one make, japanese 90s, japanese championship, all easy and normal special conditions, turbo, and theres probably many more that i cant think of at the moment lol
I started my save in 2014 with a red fwd 80s celica, it was a decent car i recall. Hell i still have it along with my save on my memory card lol. The most memorable gt4 car for me, along with the r390 road car that i have driven over 5k km in a spec, which is a decent amount. When i started a new save on an emulator, blue 80s CRX with magnum wheels. A hoot to drive when upgraded and tuned
i went with either EK Type R or Evo (was it Evo I or II? idk) coz i think they left you with enough money for oil change but also had performance to boot.
My first playthrough of gt4 (which I'm still going through now), I was unlucky enough to pick the honda today G '85. But thankfully cheating in the Kei cup allowed to grind up a bit to win the kei cup races, and eventually i got the pontiac from sunfire gxp concept, now this car with nos was enough for capri rally with a bit of dirty driving. And after upgrades capri rally is easy, which means I would recommend anyone to get this car since it's rather easy to get and allows you to get a bunch of money easily since you can sell the prize car. And I'm not good at racing games either and am on keyboard & mouse. Means anyone should be able to save their playthrough without getting softlocked if they ended up getting stuck with one of the trash starter cars. I wish the best of luck to everyone and their endeavors in gt4.
There are lots of used cars you can bought during day 1 and most of Streamers always find Suzuki Capucinno with low mileage or FC RX-7 1990 era. As for me, I will take 2 option : Lan Evo 2/3 or Impreza Ver.II which can be found almost for 10k and it was really powerful for B License since AI cars are mostly Compacts and Kei cars. Every people always have their own preferences and I always go for powerful but cheap to buy. Each Region have different prices on GT Auto and you will have cheapest on Europe but Expensive in US which most of us avoid US version since they are not friendly on early game.
Yeah I bought a Nissan Be in my current playthrough. Knew it would be a challenge an yeah It was tough. Took me a long time of saving up for mods. Many races getting 5th, 4th, 3rd place. It does handle extremely well though
0:34 well, I’ve been on TH-cam for over 10 years, and I’ve only seen this video about gran turismo 4😅 as an avid race sim player, idk if that makes me more or less likely to have seen it
Hey what settings are you using on PCSX2? I'm assuming that's what you're running to get the HD rendering? I'm currently struggling to not get frame drops at 2x native and am starting to think I might need to change some settings or upgrade my machine... Apologies if this is mentioned in anouther video!
I'm curious, with the mods mentioned here are they only limited to the budget or what you could get when you buy the car first? Because I'm a bit surprised that tires aren't mentioned here considering how much they also affect the car's handling.
They are limited to a 10K budget, a set of sport softs would cost you around 7K. While they are useful, I find there are better things to invest on at first.
I can't remember which car i started with in my first start, but i do remember that i pick the 89s Mazda MX5 in Silver Metallic in 9/10 times i start this game. I think it is a great car, has access to many races, is fun to drive and for me kinda nostalgia at this point. I had the RX7 once or twice, felt kinda wrong but sure worked out, and a Silvia. :D
It annoys me nobody realizes how broken the rsc is because of race car merits since all people do is sell it, It keeps up with the tuning car championship grid stock... although you need another group b or upgrades to win it.
As someone that used the RSC raid car in rally events not always sold it or used it in other useful events or suits yeah some people need to truly test them out for their capabilities and tuning potential not always selling and moving on or just collecting and moving on which I do sometimes Same with Tuner cars. Many like the OP S2000(always knew it's potential just never bought it and tweaked it but knew from the CPU events it appears in. Seeing speed but not always considered tuning or the handling/weight/grip as I should) or the Amuse one in GT5P (yes in GT4 as well) I always noticed not jused though. That or the R32 Golf many k ow for the cheap price, high speed difference that I more so noticed in GT PSP then GT4. Same with OP S2000 in GT PSP not so great sometimes as tuning in GT4 or 5 makes it better than GT PSP favourite system tweaks that kind of help but not much. Or I didn't push it enough besides what the opponent selection was and which tracks I used it with I probably used it incorrectly to its strengths.
Stage 5/Original turbo is better, tends to have a more balanced torque curve. Even if, in most cases, it might be like using a sledgehammer against a fly. Too much power can make cars harder to drive. But yes, stage 5 is better when available.
you know, it is possible to start racing with the Zonda LM race car by winning prizes from driving missions (or to have a 318,000 credit starting fund...) as such my favorite starting car is the Dodge RAM Truck.
Throw in the Group C prototype R89C if you want to extend the Driving Missions further than the Slipstream Battles for the Zonda You’ll have to beat Mission 34 though heh
I always bought the red SW20 as a kid. I thought it was criminal how there was such a cool car for so cheap (and available from the beginning of the game). Then 15 years later I bought a real one. And still feel the same way. There's nothing out there that matches the price:cool ratio of the SW20.
SW20 also cheaper than even R34GTR.
Congrats! I hope it serves you well for a long time, enjoy it.
@@purwantiallan5089 Not surprising at all
well, its a toyota so it will
I got an SW20 while they were cheap, like really cheap, and then sold it for a decent profit, but now ik I could've gotten so much more out of it, not only price, but the amount of time spent, I miss it, but now they're like 15k instead of 3500
I think this is one of the reasons people still like Gran Turismo 4 - there are so many options for your first car
Absolutely, each playthrough can be different.
the intro is excellent, but for those wishing to skip it, the list starts at 11:23
Lmao so much waffle
Thats a long intro
@@rurimotovery long intro as it can take 30 percent duration of the video.
@@ZedNinetySix_MR2 GTS, Supra RZ, RX8 Concept Type II, and Kusabi for me are the best starter cars in GT4, what about you?
42:34 "It has power and decent handling at the same time." Pit maneuvers self on curb.
I got greedy.
easy hidden double time am I right
omg raymoo
Take a shot for every time Yellowbird says "A GT Wing-"
Even if you are wasted, the GT wing should help your stability.
Would rather not die of alcohol poisoning tbh.
The fact that as an 1hr long video has full subtitles is crazy. I also loves the ctr yellowbird so uve gained a new sub. seriously underrated channel
Glad I could improve your viewing experience, you're welcome!
Welcome :)
I'm really glad to see someone finally mentioning the Cougar as a great alternative, it is really a hidden gem. Sure the grind for S license isn't great but that thing can take you almost through the entire american events and even the 1000 miles
Absolutely, it can open a massive chunk of the game by itself. Totally a solid choice.
The fact that my go to car, the RX-7 GT-X (FC, J) is actually a pretty great starting choice made me happy. Younger me definitely made the right pick when I first played this game without a single doubt!
The RX-7 GTX was also a great starter car back in Gran Turismo 2, so this isn’t its first rodeo for sure!
Absolutely, the '90 RX7 is insane. Probably one of the most reasonable options.
@@bobthebuilder9509 always seems like whichever racing game has it as a pick, the GT-X (FC) always is a standout pick, either because it can fit well in a Japanese 90's Cup thanks to its performance numbers or because its a good starter option for just starting out the game. Gran Turismo definitely sells it as a good starter for those who have experience or even those just wanting something more than a Civic or any other hatchback.
was the car i used in my first playthrough
my beloved
I chose it too, sold it accidentally sadly
I think the dc2 Integra type r was overlooked in this list. it was 7 grand and it works great as a starter. I put comfort tires and add 50kg ballast for the "girlfriend thats too dependent" penalty and it's incredibly fun to drive
A favourite starter of mine is the 1990 Mazda RX7, but one that holds a special place in my heart, as my first ever starter car, is the Nissan Primera 2.0 (Infiniti G20). That is a joy to drive
Me too love the 1990 RX7. And dont forget Pontiac Solstice Coupe and Silvia as my additional starter cars. On FR challenge, the Silvia still struggled even with upgrades.
I had a G20 irl, it was clean :)
I used my mighty turboed Lupo and that thing was a beast
Nice flag btw :3
I actually own a Nissan primera irl, it's a very comfy car to drive and more powerful than it looks
Suzuki Cappuccino. Rush Concept 2 by winning Suzuki Kei Cup, then upgrade to win Suzuki Concept cup to get GSX R/4.
Congrats, you now have a 4 wheeled Hayabusa, which can win most Professional series.
Gigaccino*
A bit of a money sink, though it makes for an outstanding and unsuspecting car.
I'm not sure if it's available on week 1, but my personal go to is the 94 Impreza WRX. 4WD, 250 hp for about 9500-9900 credits.
It isn't, it appears later!
The 1995 Version 2 GC8 is more powerful for the same price and is worth the wait for it to drop in price below 10k.
I love informational videos like this. Even if I know most of the stuff, it’s still fun to listen to. Plus there’s almost always at least one thing to learn. I might even try a few cars I never have before.
VW Lupo can be a giant killer as a starter car in GT4.
You're welcome!
I remember buying the 90's mirage and discovering the mirage cup and the 70's mirage ai would always leave the 90's ones in the dust and I was thinking damn is the 70's mirage that much better? nope, another one of those race specific things. good thing I found out from the video that that's a beginners trap before starting a run with it (granted I never actually checked the stats on the 70's mirage). :D
Great video man, that background music is making me wanna get my DS & play Platinum & Soulsilver again lol
Might as well! You're welcome!
Excellent, comprehensive video. Well-edited, insightful commentary, and great analysis. Gran Turismo 4 is such a timeless classic, I've been very happy to see it rise again in popularity nearly 20 years after its release, in no small part due to its coverage by Yellowbird and TeaKanji. Well done!
38:50- I had a good time with this FTO in the Turbo Car Challenge :)
Noticing some similarities between GT2 and GT4 with the starter cars, many of the cars that were good in GT2 are still good choices in GT4. ‘90 RX-7, Silvia K’s S13, ‘89 Skyline GTS-t, Toyota Celica GT-R, Toyota Trueno. I began both my GT2 and GT4 playthrough with the Skyline GTS-t and it’s delighting to see it perform well in both games.
the video is really good, deep in information and covers all early and license prize cars, but I wouldn't say it's a comprehensive list. If you check the used car dealers in between completing licences, you can get some pretty good starter cars:
evos (II,III), which are better than the evo I
first gen STIs, which decimate the early game, have a lot of potential with upgrades, can access (and be competitive) in lots of events and have a manufacturer event that can be beaten with a stage 1 turbo
SW20s, but this time the GTS, which is an op starter in gt4, and I'd say quite better than the G-limited, which iirc cannot have a turbo
there's probably more I left, but these are the ones that come to mind.
(also STIs can be quite competitive in boxer cup without spending too much money, and you know what that means ;) )
Yes, I get this argument. However, I wanted to cover all the cars available at day 1, as covering other cars would open a lot of doors, dare I say, more advanced strategies.
I can't believe you didn't mention that the MR2 G-Limited can do World Compact in the early game for EZ money. It's the speedrun strat in B-Spec!
I looked past it because I didn't watch any GT4 speedruns. I knew I was missing something by not doing so, unfortunate. (Even if I kind of intended it to be for A-Spec only, still)
The Acura DN-X is quite interesting as an early car. It doesn't quite feel right to me in normal races so I haven't used it much, but it's by far the fastest car I've tried so far for dirt tracks. With so much grip on the rear wheels, it's less likely to slide around corners and can even make use of the full 580 HP it can be upgraded to, while others tend to struggle for grip when upgraded to 420-440 HP. Being a NA car, it also has a wider and smoother power band than all the turbo rally cars for better corner exits. The only problems are that it requires a bit of care on the throttle around corners due to lack of VCD, and you need to finish the dirt races before buying any weight reductions or it becomes uncontrollable.
The Civic type R was my first and I think it's great. I sold the race spec Civic I won from the Civic club and it gave me quite a lot of money very early in the game
For me i usually bought Civic, much like you, and later Impreza Spec C 2004 and later i also sold Impreza Race Car (Prize car from Stars of Pleiades) to get quite a ton of cash early in the game, probably around $1.965.398.
Can't go wrong with the EK9!
If you want an awesome start, do the B lisence, then go to early 90s used cars and buy a Honda Integra Type R DC2 for 8.8k.
It can beat Sunday, FF and Capri rally stock with oil change and wash.
Japan 90s cup and Type R meeting should be possible with Stage 1 Weight and Turbo/NA Tuning, Racing chip and whatever other handling mods you want. Those handling upgrades are optional... I think.
And I haven't done the Type R meeting yet. But it should do it atleast if the NSX doesn't show up.
I did this as I started GT4 on Emulator recently and it has been quite easy in the early game.
Thanks to this guide and TeaKanji's for helping me with GT4.
Was kind of hoping to see the 1995 Impreza here, that's my go-to starter car along with the Evo I
It sadly isn’t available for under 10k on week 1. You can stall to get it by doing license tests.
19:47 It's very good Car for some 200A-Spec points races
A tier list with no actual tier list?
Awesome video, as usual, but I'm wondering if you limited to the used cars that are only available on week 1. Because doing even just the B- license will cycle the days and the car list is different every single week. The 97 Camaro Z28 for example is pretty OP, it's available on week 4 and I believe it's under 10K (I could be wrong). Omitting cars that aren't on week one is understandable to keep the video length reasonable, but many/most people won't and don't need to buy a car on week one (the Lupo is free anyways), given you can't do much without a B license.
I'm planning on doing a playthrough using only cars I've actually owned IRL, which should get me through everything in the beginner and professional hall except for Kei, pre-70s, trucks, boxer engines, and GTWC (although I want to beat the GTWC in a non-LMP).
Yeah seems only week 1 used cars were pointed out. I think at the very least (if we were going for full comprehension and had time for testing) a look at weeks 1-5’s roster would be great, since you need 5 weeks minimum to complete the B and A licenses.
Honestly since we were also considering S license prizes in the form of the Cougar, it might be cool checking out used cars through Week 12. Still, Yellowbird’s list is definitely pretty comprehensive and in-depth already, so maybe he could do the other starters as another video?
EDIT: If we wanted to be REALLY overkill we could probably mention used cars you can afford by selling license prizes. I’m pretty sure there’s a couple gems in the early game you just barely won’t be able to afford that could be circumvented with a little boost in cash (or by importing a GT3 save, but in that case why are you still here? lol)
@@bobthebuilder9509 Yeah, although it's very common for people to get the 3,400 from the Lupo, that would make the video too long. But since the licenses are mandatory anyway, there are a bunch of later week cars that deserve mention. Also think the silver and gold prize cars are an unusual addition, but the 270R is stupidly good for the effort.
I actually just learned there is a 1970 Honda in the historic showroom for 11K that has enough power to be competitive in the world classics (at least without a Cobra or Buick Special). Would make an interesting starter car.
While i think showing cars fron week 2 would be valid, if you want to grind any car past the B license, is because you absolutely don't want to buy your starter car;
Yeah, I think the part 2 of this video is a must have and at the end of it make a real tierlist in tiermaker. The cars should be judged by how many events they can win, value for money and how much fun is it to drive certain things
@@bobthebuilder9509for me i usually needed only 32 days to get gold medals on B and A licenses.
Most of the time I don't put LSD on the cars because I don't feel any difference. The upgrades I like the most are flywheel, clutch and engine balance, but I also prioritize suspension, ecu and exhaust.
"go watch it before someone steals it and takes all the credit"
That's what earned your sub lol
Welcome, good to have you!
no matter what, the 1997 g limited will still be my favorite
The captions are so good wth
This is so nice
Thanks! Glad you found them useful!
Just a couple small corrections:
- is dash, not slash, and nobody says "GTS dash T" it's, just a GTST when spoken aloud.
Also, it's not a Silvia K S. It's pronounced Kays. And the Q's is pronounced queues.
Otherwise very well produced and factual video! Well done Yellowbird!
1 & 2 - Yes, I don't know why I did that. I have to re-read my scripts, it was so dumb. And improve my pronunciations. Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
@@YellowbirdYT they're very small errors! Don't take it too hard, you're very talented! I don't speak ANY second language, so I'm not one to judge!
Nice to see respect for the AE111.
Its a good idea to keep the ginrtta, as you can use it in the historic series, and its overall a pretty decent car
Hey Yellowbird, loved the tierlist of all possible starter cars, really showed some alternative choices. Any chance for more of this sort of thing? Like the Used Dealerships in GT1 or 2? Or if not that, a bit more on GT4's listings? The used car cycles show even more hidden gems that could be great to grab, for example checking it after getting a license or two, like alot of players are liable to do, since the scope of this video was the perspective of a new players first choice.
GT 1 and 2 are more simple, and their choices aren't as punishing really. A bad car on GT4 can give you a miserable experience.
You cover exactly what I'm interested in but the accent will forever keep us seperated. Good job either way
loving the background music to the vid! also great vid in itself
Thank you! I'm glad you liked it.
Could've just skipped through until i found saw the car i was looking for but the video was to interesting to skip, super detailed and informative. Love it 👌👍
Well thank you! Glad you found my efforts valuable.
19:40- The good ole Honda Today will NOT get you where you want to go today, lol
The car of tomorrow, because it never arrives.
It really should have been called the Honda Tomorrow, lol@@YellowbirdYT
For me the best is the Isuzu Piazza XE, such an underrated car, with italian engine and japanese bodywork
Japanese bodywork?
Sorry I meant chassis@@RickettsJr
My g I think you forgot about NTSC pal differences. The Acura dnx is not present in the pal release, there is the honda dualnote instead
Imagine telling your child self you'd be watching an hour long video on gran turismo 4 almost 20 yrs later
Who would have thought we would have platforms which provide better content than TV.
Babe wake up, 55 minute long yellowbird video
Christmas came early!
Started a new playthrough recently, went with the Toyota Starlet Glanza V as the starter car. Maybe not the best, but a pretty good one. Did the Sunday Cup and FF Challenge easy enough, at least. Got an 80’s Mitsubishi Gallant after that.
Ahre hoy me enteré por Gustin que sos argentino y te estuve viendo por unos meses ya. Seguí así que vas a llegar lejos queridooo.
Muchisimas gracias! Gustin es un genio, lo sigo hace años. De no creer que me nombrara.
Im not sure if its in week one but i think the toyota supra mark 3 2.5liter is also a really great choice after selling the lupo from national b license
Mercury Cougar + transmission upgrade + hard tires + 1000 Miles! B-spec + pray that you don't meet a Cobra = easy money
How do you know exactly the grip modifiers? From code or something else? And what is the list of the top highest grip cars? A list of all cars with grip modifiers, would be funny to see from highest to lowest.
It's from a database in the game's data called SpecDB. I made a spreadsheet last year using SpecDB data that shows each car's grip modifiers, wind drag, wheelbase and other hidden stats. You should be able to find it if you Google "gran turismo 4 specdb spreadsheet".
Edit: oh, I forgot Yellowbird linked to it in the description of this video, so yeah, it's there. You should be able to sort the cars by grip modifiers.
Actually, there is. Check the description!
Best tip for GT4 is doing the license tests first and get even some bronze prize cars are good to begin!
An used car to buy: Nissan 300zx (can't remember the year), this one was always my pick to be the first used car to buy and it's an absolute beast!
Some bronze prizes are good, indeed, as mentioned in the video!
An indepth guide on gt4 suspension tuning would be a cool video
This was a great video! I had no IDEA the old new civic could be a decent buy, what a cool thing. I also did the 100k credit transfer from GT Concept and bought an Audi RS4 so my path was very strange but I was a child and it was 2005 so 🤣
I wasn't expecting it to be good either, but it is, pretty fun car overall.
Selling the Lupo and Nismo 270R, after completing the licenses, to buy the TVR Griffith as a starter is still my favorite path. It's a crazy bargain for 20.500 CR and if you tune it properly it becomes an amazing race car. Super fun to drive.
I always think best starter car in gt 4 is a evo 1 or skyline gts-t. Many power, but low money.
always got the used red 92 evo as a starter
@@drowntone4986 in pal version start evo 1 in silver colour.
Great video! But ive got to say, the title of "tierlist" is misleading considering you didnt make a tierlist for the cars. You just went over every possible starter car and listed their pro's and con's. Titling the video "Starter cars explained" would be more appropriate 😂
Cheers!
Did you watch the video? The tires are good, average, and bad. Which he says which tier the car would be in for each car.. doesn’t have to be visual, wouldn’t even fit on the screen lmao
The 1.4 lupo is actually an interesting car for me. It has a super wierd gearbox in this game wich allows it to have such ridiculous top speed of 150 mph(250 km/h). Sure it's too weak for such a gearbox but problem can be solved with an stage 1 turbo and nitrous. With this setup, good driving and some forza tricks you can win the Schwarzwald league A wich is going to give you the most wanted m3 gtr, only with 10 grands. It's mind-blowing. (The autumn ring is going to be a torture however)
If you’re willing to waste the first few weeks of Used car dealership lineups getting licenses, the GC8 Impreza Ver.2 eventually drops below 10k. It’s not as powerful as the later models but it is fantastic in so many races with gradual tuning, including Capri Rally Easy in Special Condition Events and Stars of Pleiades in Subaru one-make races.
A youtube carrer for a person who lives in south america is such a blessing!
I used to start with the S13 Silvia, but the FC RX-7 is in my opinion by far the best. You can tune it up to about 400-500hp and it'll still be very easy to drive, on top of being very fast stock for the price.
Any possibility of doing a list for Gran Turismo 3? I recently attempted a "Miata only" challenge and was able to get 25% game completion with it. Might be possible to squeeze out 26-27% but beyond that is probably impossible
the best starter car is the honda today clearly, a whole 2 cylinders of fury
(Motorbike not included)
You missed one! The little white blue and red race car thing, I think it's a daihatsu?
Daihatsu has no race-cars.
PD had maked a 500hp daihatsu Which is called in NTSC-U and in the NTSC-J as Storia and in PAL as sirion,both the end words are rally car,yup i mention the Daihatsu Storia/Sirion rally car that only appeared in GT2 and didnt appeared in the later titles.
And abit of the bad news is that beast has been fictional Rally Car.
I managed to solve the lighting issue is to disable the advanced download mode it buried inside the advanced options
Just started GT4 again but began by doing All Gold in the Licences and then Finishing the Mission Hall. Mission 34 is pure HELL on NTSC-J but the Reward is worth the Annoyance - R89C.
The R89C is really nice, it's a bit of a pain but an early group C breaks the game!
@@YellowbirdYT Definitely. The resets may as well be worth it given how it drives - a potential car to use in the GT Championship, Endurance and Extreme Hall.
Did some races in the Regional halls to get to 25% so the cars I got from the Licenses, Missions Special Condition and Regional Halls are able to do REAL Damage. With a well timed purchase of a 10.0km Eunos Roadster, I'm able to do the 4hr Roadster Challenge and got a Yellow RX-7 LM.
With a proper in game cash flow, I'm able to buy those 10.0km used cars without a care for its price. Now I just await the day where the 4 Black cars arrive at the used car lot.
Nice video man, I wish I had watched this before I started recording my own gt4 playthrough haha
You should be fine anyway!
I have a question. I built a ‘99 opel tigra and I was wondering how I should set up the downforce on front wheel drive cars?
earn your first licence and you'll get a vw lupo, it sucks terribly. sell it and buy whatever has the most power from a used dealership, easy.
50:50 made me laugh so hard, unexpected maneuver
Average Cita Di Aria moment.
im gonna go ahead and guess that the lancer evo 1 gsr will either be THE number 1 pick, or at least in the top 3
with minimal upgrades it can beat sunday cup, clubman cup, 4wd, the lancer one make, japanese 90s, japanese championship, all easy and normal special conditions, turbo, and theres probably many more that i cant think of at the moment lol
42:36 bro really entered pit 😂
I started my save in 2014 with a red fwd 80s celica, it was a decent car i recall. Hell i still have it along with my save on my memory card lol.
The most memorable gt4 car for me, along with the r390 road car that i have driven over 5k km in a spec, which is a decent amount.
When i started a new save on an emulator, blue 80s CRX with magnum wheels. A hoot to drive when upgraded and tuned
I love that you add Pokémon music, gran turismo to me is the Pokemon game of cars
I wanted to play Pokemon and well, it came out naturally. Glad you liked it!
good video but with a tier list its to have an actual visual list to see how all the cars are spread.
i went with either EK Type R or Evo (was it Evo I or II? idk) coz i think they left you with enough money for oil change but also had performance to boot.
The EK9 Type R doesn't leave you enough for an oil change, at 9990 credits, the Evo does though. And yes, Evo 1.
My first playthrough of gt4 (which I'm still going through now), I was unlucky enough to pick the honda today G '85. But thankfully cheating in the Kei cup allowed to grind up a bit to win the kei cup races, and eventually i got the pontiac from sunfire gxp concept, now this car with nos was enough for capri rally with a bit of dirty driving. And after upgrades capri rally is easy, which means I would recommend anyone to get this car since it's rather easy to get and allows you to get a bunch of money easily since you can sell the prize car. And I'm not good at racing games either and am on keyboard & mouse. Means anyone should be able to save their playthrough without getting softlocked if they ended up getting stuck with one of the trash starter cars. I wish the best of luck to everyone and their endeavors in gt4.
Why would the Mitsubishi Mirage softlock me?
There are lots of used cars you can bought during day 1 and most of Streamers always find Suzuki Capucinno with low mileage or FC RX-7 1990 era. As for me, I will take 2 option : Lan Evo 2/3 or Impreza Ver.II which can be found almost for 10k and it was really powerful for B License since AI cars are mostly Compacts and Kei cars.
Every people always have their own preferences and I always go for powerful but cheap to buy. Each Region have different prices on GT Auto and you will have cheapest on Europe but Expensive in US which most of us avoid US version since they are not friendly on early game.
Yeah I bought a Nissan Be in my current playthrough. Knew it would be a challenge an yeah It was tough. Took me a long time of saving up for mods. Many races getting 5th, 4th, 3rd place. It does handle extremely well though
I remember the first time I played GT2, my first car was a new fiat 500. The poor thing could not even pass the first slope
0:34 well, I’ve been on TH-cam for over 10 years, and I’ve only seen this video about gran turismo 4😅 as an avid race sim player, idk if that makes me more or less likely to have seen it
Didn't expect pokemon music in the backround lol 👏
Small world.
Hey what settings are you using on PCSX2? I'm assuming that's what you're running to get the HD rendering? I'm currently struggling to not get frame drops at 2x native and am starting to think I might need to change some settings or upgrade my machine... Apologies if this is mentioned in anouther video!
What about the newer Mirage, the CYBORG R?
I'm curious, with the mods mentioned here are they only limited to the budget or what you could get when you buy the car first? Because I'm a bit surprised that tires aren't mentioned here considering how much they also affect the car's handling.
They are limited to a 10K budget, a set of sport softs would cost you around 7K. While they are useful, I find there are better things to invest on at first.
@@YellowbirdYT Gotcha, gotcha. 👌
I can't remember which car i started with in my first start, but i do remember that i pick the 89s Mazda MX5 in Silver Metallic in 9/10 times i start this game. I think it is a great car, has access to many races, is fun to drive and for me kinda nostalgia at this point.
I had the RX7 once or twice, felt kinda wrong but sure worked out, and a Silvia. :D
Maybe add timestamps in the future, the intro was rather long and I was wondering when what I came here for actually starts
Videazo amigo 🔥🇦🇷
Gracias!!
It annoys me nobody realizes how broken the rsc is because of race car merits since all people do is sell it, It keeps up with the tuning car championship grid stock... although you need another group b or upgrades to win it.
Dawg, everybody knows, not sure where you’re getting your info from lol
As someone that used the RSC raid car in rally events not always sold it or used it in other useful events or suits yeah some people need to truly test them out for their capabilities and tuning potential not always selling and moving on or just collecting and moving on which I do sometimes
Same with Tuner cars. Many like the OP S2000(always knew it's potential just never bought it and tweaked it but knew from the CPU events it appears in. Seeing speed but not always considered tuning or the handling/weight/grip as I should) or the Amuse one in GT5P (yes in GT4 as well) I always noticed not jused though.
That or the R32 Golf many k ow for the cheap price, high speed difference that I more so noticed in GT PSP then GT4.
Same with OP S2000 in GT PSP not so great sometimes as tuning in GT4 or 5 makes it better than GT PSP favourite system tweaks that kind of help but not much. Or I didn't push it enough besides what the opponent selection was and which tracks I used it with I probably used it incorrectly to its strengths.
this rocks, def subscribing and binging ur gran turismo videos 🔥
I appreciate it! Thank you!
The Pokémon background music… a man of culture 🤌🏼
Which turbo you recommend for higher tier? Stage 4 from factory or stage 5 from tuning house?
Stage 5/Original turbo is better, tends to have a more balanced torque curve. Even if, in most cases, it might be like using a sledgehammer against a fly. Too much power can make cars harder to drive. But yes, stage 5 is better when available.
this is the part with the car
Is it just me or is the Nissan Primera '91 missing from the list?
No. In the NTSC release, it's rebadged as the Infiniti G20, which I covered.
you know, it is possible to start racing with the Zonda LM race car by winning prizes from driving missions (or to have a 318,000 credit starting fund...) as such my favorite starting car is the Dodge RAM Truck.
Throw in the Group C prototype R89C if you want to extend the Driving Missions further than the Slipstream Battles for the Zonda
You’ll have to beat Mission 34 though heh
any cheap evo from the used garage will handle the competition for a while. this is my fave GT and still play it when i can til this day.
i always thought most started by doing licences on bronze and using Nismo 270r for capri rally.
Nissan sky gts m is solid or if u can snag Evo 2 or 3 will also be a solid choose
Miata every time, great for Sunday, clubman, rwd, convertible races, and Japan races. It’s so versatile in available race entries
Miata is pretty good!
dropping a sub while i wait for a starter car tier list for GT3 :3
THAT'S NOT WHAT BEGS THE QUESTION MEANS
Startercar!? This is a finisher car!