Dan Watson who is among the biggest AMSOIL dealers in the country once said that some so called full synthetics contained large amounts of conventional like group 2 oil in them.
People can choose whatever oil they wish to, personally I’ll stick with Pennzoil Ultra Platinum! Pennzoil Ultra Platinum is derived from Natural Gas, not crude utilizing “Pure Plus” technology so almost all the molecules are uniform. There’re many great “Full Synthetic” motor oil’s available, everyone has to choose what they feel comfortable with, whether that be Valvoline, Quaker State, Royal Purple, Castrol, Red-line, Amsoil, Mobil 1, the list goes on. I know what works for me, and I believe in the technology behind Pennzoil Ultra Platinum! Another great, informative video Rich, thanks for sharing!
@@hotrodray6802 ouch, sounds like Walmart is trying to gouge customer’s on the price! Even up here in Canada, at Canadian Tire it’s only $41.99 and if you buy two 5L jugs, you can apply for the $20.00 gift card basically bringing each jug down by another $10.00
@@UKnowBo There are many different Mobil 1s you know? You've got to get the M1 extended performance I think it is, for their best one. There used to be an annual performance M1 but I haven't seen or heard about it lately. How much did you pay for your vehicle? Why is everyone so worried about paying a few bucks more for a premium oil. I really believe these modern high tech engines need the best oils we can get. They are hard on oils. Well, any engine needs excellent lubrication for that matter. Oil is the lifeblood of an engine! I hate shopping at the walrus mart or any big box store actually. Just remember they are all about price and volume not so much about quality. They just want to get you back in there and buy more junk.
I was on an automobile forum several years ago and a guy that sold Red Line said their oil was full synthetic because ALL the molecules were perfectly round. Make of it what you will, but that's what he said.
Oil molecules are chains. But you can crack the longer chains down and filter into a 0W, 5W etc oil. Castrol Syntec = in the past = cracked/filtered regular motor oil, but now maybe full synthetic (possibly)
Red Line used to be full synthetic, like group 4&5. And yes that's part of the deal with synthetics, the molecules are uniform. But not sure now of their formula after they, Red Line, was bought out.
Syntec is a highly refined hydrocracked group 3 petroleum base synthetic. And it, as are others, are better than conventional oils. But it is not a chemically synthesized man made from the molecules up synthetic in the truest sense.
I was an Amsoil dealer for years, I did it to get oil for my personal use at a discount. As a dealer, I would receive the Amsoil magazine monthly; when the prices of the products would go up, Amsoil would always blame the increased price of the crude "base stocks".'Nuff said? Amsoil is a good product but a lot of their marketing is bullshit.
I have motowhome with a v10. I did oil analysis 3 times. Used Amsoil signature 5w-20 on two tests. After 8500 miles the oil turned into a 5w-30. Got thicker. The third, Supertech was worse, almost a 40 weight. I change it now every 5000 miles now. Valvoline, SP, Dexos gen 3.
@@jd646 only thing that I can come up with is heat along with exposure to oxygen. Was on it way to sludge. Gasoline motorhomes work hard. Most always towing a car or something.
I worked at wm auto for 4 years and Pennz Platinum and Castrol Edge have the highest additive settle out of everything we sold. And their stock rotates quickly.
Depends on which Amsoil product. The OE motor oil I’m sure contains some group 3, but not the signature series, or if it does, just enough group 3 for solubility with the additive package
@@sonjacarroll4296you can use whatever you want but there's only 3 companies that make synthetic base stock and 4 additive companies!! Amsoil isn't one of them! On Porsche club of America TH-cam Lake Speed Jr did a seminar explaining this.
How many years ago did project farm perform those tests? How many formulation changes has Amsoil SS gone thru in that time? Ratblog 540 also does oil testing and Amsoil used to totally dominate the competition in his testing. However in his most recent testing (like only a year or so ago) Amsoil dropped to like #54. Something changed?
@@lonniebeal6032 AMSOIL Signature Series is a full synthetic blend of 100% synthetic base oil, no conventional petroleum in it at all. But the main portion of it is a PAO we believe. Anyway, they say it is their best over engineered formula yet. And the completion still can't compare:)
@@oneninerniner3427 All motor oils are 70% base oil and 30% additives. In fully synthetic oils, 100% of the base oil (70%) is fully synthetic motor oil.
Although to make Merc LV or Dex 6 designation takes a pretty strong synthetic base to make those specifications. I don't think regular petroleum bases can do it. They need a large percentage of, if not totally synthetic. Similar to 0Ws, 0W20, 0W16 etc. I don't think they can be done with straight petroleum bases either
Well, I am assuming they are commenting on the cases where people run that oil for 10 to 15k or more intervals, which their observations do not surprise me at all. Now, if you run amsoil a more normal interval, say 5k or less, I would be surprised to see if there was any more failures than what is typical using an OEM oil or a competitors full synthetic?
@@oneninerniner3427 the thing is, oil immersed belts initially have had some belt failures. It’s not specific to an oil brand if I remember correctly, but rather a material belt construction that wasn’t great in oil. That said, even now GM uses a belt driven oil immersed belt on their 3L Duramax motor with a replacement interval that was just raised from 150k miles to 200k miles based on wear data they are seeing. Without question there has been some belt failures, but nothing that I have heard or seen that was attributed to a specific oil that met the spec requirements for oil.
@@zoeydee7168 yeah guess I've heard that too on the wet cam drive or oil pump belts. I believe they were first used on NASCAR engines. They liked them because they probably took less power to turn stuff & ran smoother as the belt absorbed much of the pulses and vibrations versus a chain or gear drive.
@@WN_Byers I only drive about 2k miles per year in that vehicle. I also have a 2019 car with 15k on it, driving about 3k per year, which I change once year under a dealer service program.
🔔😎 Exactly correct. .... So I will do the best I can under these circumstances... IMO Mobil 1 oil and filter, 5,000 miles. ... Im not willing to pay 2x the price for ultra hard to get Pennz ULTRA.
POE esters aren't always the best application for synthetic. Esters are hard on seals and are mostly used for jet aircraft and serious professional race applications. Race engine oils often do not have a lot of anti rust, anti corrosive properties because they compete with the extreme pressure anti wear properties. Racing engines are torn down often and maintained more, pickled when they sit, especially the ones that use leaded & exotic fuels, so they don't worry so much about rust and corrosion. Also some additives don't like to stay mixed in esters.
Group 5 is a kind of catch all group for stuff that doesn't fit the other groups. It can include esters, glycols and other stuff that I don't remember right now. lol
Interesting. I have a 2020 F150. 3.5l Ecoboost. What kind of oil should I use? I also have a 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0 straight 6 with over 180,000 miles. What oil should I use? Same with oil filters. My past vehicles. I used Fram filters and Quaker State. Oil.
I took my old simp car in for an oil change and tire rotation last week. The "tech" put 40 lbs air in the tires. He looked stoned. So I said ok then drove down the street to firestone, and they took out 10 lbs of air from all 4. After that I went to a nearby park to check the oil. Wish I could have taken the old car to you Ford Boss.
I use Castrol GTX (Blend) in my ‘14 Tundra. In “full synthetic”, I like the Valvoline Advanced. I tried Castrol Edge once, and man did my engine tick n clank.
Liqui Moly molygen in my case. On the cheaper end I'll throw in supertech advanced full synthetic or stp high mileage full synthetic. 5,000 miles or 9-12 months change interval.
I have a 2004 Mercury Marauder 4.6L 4V V8 with 157k miles. It started with 5W-20, then Ford changed the spec to 0W-20. Once I crossed 100k, I changed the spec to 5W-30. I always ran Mobil1 for motor oil and it gets changed with a Motorcraft filter every 5k miles.
I've got a couple of high mileage Tritons I switched them to AMSOIL 10W30 SS from 5W30 SS. I'm talking in excess of a quarter million miles, so I figured a touch higher viscosity won't hurt a thing in those worn engines. 10W30 SS still has a -52°F pour point and It is one of the least volatile oils. Been working good for me.
As well, I have heard Lake say as well that a Group 3 oil with additive package and some minor additions of Group 4 or 5 as part of that additive package, can perform better than a pure Group 4 or 5 in certain cases. So, a full PAO might seem better, but depending on the blended Group 3 with an excellent additive package, maybe not.
If I couldn't get AMSOIL Signature Series I'd probably use High Performance Lubricants or The best Mobil 1. But dang, HPL is Way expensive, even as compared to AMSOIL SS.
Okay sir. You are going to piss off the Amsoil fanboys. “Best oil on the planet and 100% synthetic”. I can not count the number of times I read that on oil forums or TH-cam videos comments.
About 7 years ago, I called Amsoil and spoke to a technician and he told me off the record, that if an oil is called Full synthetic or 100% synthetic, it didn't matter because it is considered a marketing tool.
To echo what you said: 100% synthetic and full synthetic are the same thing. Amsoil may be a blend of group 3 and group 4 base stock just like “full” synthetics are. Pursuant to a 1990’s law suit between Castrol and Mobil 1, courts ruled that group 3 and 4 base oils are synthetic, therefore any oil that contains one or both of those groups, regardless of proportions, can be called synthetic. So as long as Amsoil contains group 3, even if it’s 100% group 3, they can legally call it 100% synthetic. Thus, 100% synthetic and full synthetic are synonymous. Amsoil admitted this in one of their own blogs.
Guys, I still believe AMSOIL Signature Series still has a very large percentage of PAO in it. Probably their XL as well. The OE and the High Milage possibly not as much. But of course no company says, it's proprietary information they all say. But in the end it's how it performs and it's worked extremely well for me for a very long time now, so I'm happy.
@FordBossMe ive run semi synthetic are one cars witch aren't that old and we lost a quart at every 3500 oil change now I use full synthetic change the oil after 5k miles no oil loss. There is a difference. Just putting my 2 cents in
Very well said and explained in 2 minutes! Thank you Richard.
I've used nothing but Pennzoil Platinum for years and have been nothing but happy with it.
And I sold my old Town Car with 375,000 miles on Mobil 1.
Valvoline high mileage does me just fine.
Just like they are doing with our food!
They have done more to our food than we will ever know and it's not good.
Rich, The Motor Oil Geek has good science behind oils
Rich has mentioned Lake Jr many times in past videos
It's just like JUICE. It can be called 100% juice, but once you call it JUICE, it only has to legally be 10% juice. But that 10% has to be 100% juice.
Problem is, there is nothing that says, no rules, that say there has to be so much percent of synthetic. None. It can be like only a few percent.
Dan Watson who is among the biggest AMSOIL dealers in the country once said that some so called full synthetics contained large amounts of conventional like group 2 oil in them.
I get the juice of what you’re saying
And often it's 100% juice but not 100% is the juice on the bottle label. The bottle can say grape juice but the first ingredient is apple juice.
Thank you brother for clarifying this matter. 💪💪🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏✝️
Thank you Boss for telling us the Truth 🙏🏿💯🙏🏿 I appreciate it
Lake Speed Jr has a more indepth video out on the new Valvoline restore and protect synthetic oil.
Lakes channel is terrible, he talks way too much.
@brianjenkins6198 his channels not terrible but he DOES talk to much. Lol
Like cage free, grass fed, organiz, sugar free, etc.
People can choose whatever oil they wish to, personally I’ll stick with Pennzoil Ultra Platinum! Pennzoil Ultra Platinum is derived from Natural Gas, not crude utilizing “Pure Plus” technology so almost all the molecules are uniform. There’re many great “Full Synthetic” motor oil’s available, everyone has to choose what they feel comfortable with, whether that be Valvoline, Quaker State, Royal Purple, Castrol, Red-line, Amsoil, Mobil 1, the list goes on. I know what works for me, and I believe in the technology behind Pennzoil Ultra Platinum! Another great, informative video Rich, thanks for sharing!
That’s what I’ve been using for years but can we trust anything/anyone any more?
Pennzoil ULTRA is $ 63 for 5 qt jug at our Walmart.
Mobil 1 is 27.
@@hotrodray6802 ouch, sounds like Walmart is trying to gouge customer’s on the price! Even up here in Canada, at Canadian Tire it’s only $41.99 and if you buy two 5L jugs, you can apply for the $20.00 gift card basically bringing each jug down by another $10.00
@hotrodray6802 I just looked it up- $29.44 at Walmart. That's where I usually get it. Mobil 1 is not what it used to be.
@@UKnowBo There are many different Mobil 1s you know? You've got to get the M1 extended performance I think it is, for their best one. There used to be an annual performance M1 but I haven't seen or heard about it lately.
How much did you pay for your vehicle? Why is everyone so worried about paying a few bucks more for a premium oil. I really believe these modern high tech engines need the best oils we can get. They are hard on oils. Well, any engine needs excellent lubrication for that matter. Oil is the lifeblood of an engine!
I hate shopping at the walrus mart or any big box store actually. Just remember they are all about price and volume not so much about quality. They just want to get you back in there and buy more junk.
I never wanted to switch!!
Nothing is for us!! Dang it!!!
Have you watched Lake Speed Jr on Porsche club of America TH-cam yet?? Very interesting who makes the base stock and additives.
I was on an automobile forum several years ago and a guy that sold Red Line said their oil was full synthetic because ALL the molecules were perfectly round. Make of it what you will, but that's what he said.
Oil molecules are chains. But you can crack the longer chains down and filter into a 0W, 5W etc oil.
Castrol Syntec = in the past = cracked/filtered regular motor oil, but now maybe full synthetic (possibly)
Red Line used to be full synthetic, like group 4&5. And yes that's part of the deal with synthetics, the molecules are uniform. But not sure now of their formula after they, Red Line, was bought out.
Syntec is a highly refined hydrocracked group 3 petroleum base synthetic. And it, as are others, are better than conventional oils. But it is not a chemically synthesized man made from the molecules up synthetic in the truest sense.
I was an Amsoil dealer for years, I did it to get oil for my personal use at a discount. As a dealer, I would receive the Amsoil magazine monthly; when the prices of the products would go up, Amsoil would always blame the increased price of the crude "base stocks".'Nuff said? Amsoil is a good product but a lot of their marketing is bullshit.
Agreed
I have motowhome with a v10.
I did oil analysis 3 times.
Used Amsoil signature 5w-20 on two tests.
After 8500 miles the oil turned into a 5w-30. Got thicker.
The third, Supertech was worse, almost a 40 weight.
I change it now every 5000 miles now.
Valvoline, SP, Dexos gen 3.
Why did it get thicker? Sludge?
@@jd646 only thing that I can come up with is heat along with exposure to oxygen.
Was on it way to sludge.
Gasoline motorhomes work hard.
Most always towing a car or something.
Nothing can stop my MMO Synthetic Getty up and go Hot Rod Lincoln...with FORD BOSS modifications Hooray
Yet gonna drive yer pappy to drinkin'.
Guys if you get changing your motor oil every 3000 miles - there is NO DIFFERENCE between this oil types.
People are too stubborn to listen, just get good quality engine oil and change it every so often
Some engines now are very specific like Ford 2.5L hybrid. -very picky engines now.
I agree with both ☝️you guys. Use a good high quality oil and change it every three to five thousand miles. What’s cheaper motor oil or a new engine??
Amen
@@jtomtl”every so often” 🤣
I worked at wm auto for 4 years and Pennz Platinum and Castrol Edge have the highest additive settle out of everything we sold. And their stock rotates quickly.
I also watch the Motor Oil Geek. He has been saying the same exact thing as you Rich and Motor Oil Geek uses science as an oil analyst specialist.
He is a Tribologist.
I’m disgusted to find that Wix filters are made everywhere now and Napa filters are no longer Wix filters!
What??? Nooooooo!!!
@@UKnowBo I have a Wix filter that’s made in China, fits the wife’s Kubota tractor.
That’s not true. They are still six filters.
Wix is a division of Mann Hummel.
Wix is a division of Mann Hummel
Awsome info. I knew there was something fishy about all those youtube amsoil snake oil salesman. One dude was calling Amsoil Cherry something. LOL.
Depends on which Amsoil product. The OE motor oil I’m sure contains some group 3, but not the signature series, or if it does, just enough group 3 for solubility with the additive package
Congratulations! This podcast was featured on Google news today.
Really?
Great video very informative.
I really though amsoil signature series was full synthetic. I stopped using them. 14 bucks a quart is dumb too much.
It's 100%. It can be had for less. Have you tried their Preferred Customer program?
I could try give you a link, but YT takes em down right away. :(
Project farm did a oil championship , Amsoil won it. Worth taking a look on TH-cam
Yes indeed it is.
I only use Amsoil in my harley wont use anything else
@@sonjacarroll4296you can use whatever you want but there's only 3 companies that make synthetic base stock and 4 additive companies!! Amsoil isn't one of them! On Porsche club of America TH-cam Lake Speed Jr did a seminar explaining this.
Nothing he does with oil is real world!! Go watch @motoroilgeek
How many years ago did project farm perform those tests? How many formulation changes has Amsoil SS gone thru in that time? Ratblog 540 also does oil testing and Amsoil used to totally dominate the competition in his testing. However in his most recent testing (like only a year or so ago) Amsoil dropped to like #54. Something changed?
How can we tell if we are buying fully synthetic oil or not. Is there a number on the container?
@@lonniebeal6032 AMSOIL Signature Series is a full synthetic blend of 100% synthetic base oil, no conventional petroleum in it at all. But the main portion of it is a PAO we believe. Anyway, they say it is their best over engineered formula yet. And the completion still can't compare:)
@@oneninerniner3427 All motor oils are 70% base oil and 30% additives. In fully synthetic oils, 100% of the base oil (70%) is fully synthetic motor oil.
When you pay for transmission service at the quick lube, they charge you synthetic oil change prices for Mercron LV even though it's synthetic mix.
Although to make Merc LV or Dex 6 designation takes a pretty strong synthetic base to make those specifications. I don't think regular petroleum bases can do it. They need a large percentage of, if not totally synthetic. Similar to 0Ws, 0W20, 0W16 etc. I don't think they can be done with straight petroleum bases either
What’s your take on 3.5 ecoboost and people using Amsoil
I’ve heard multiple ford eco boost specialists swear amsoil will lead to premature failure on eco boost platforms. 🤔 maybe they are correct
Well, I am assuming they are commenting on the cases where people run that oil for 10 to 15k or more intervals, which their observations do not surprise me at all. Now, if you run amsoil a more normal interval, say 5k or less, I would be surprised to see if there was any more failures than what is typical using an OEM oil or a competitors full synthetic?
Some EcoBoost engines have a wet oil pump belt. If the Amsoil oil causes that belt to fail, the engine fails immediately after that.
I just can't imagine AMSOIL hasn't tested for that though.
@@oneninerniner3427 the thing is, oil immersed belts initially have had some belt failures. It’s not specific to an oil brand if I remember correctly, but rather a material belt construction that wasn’t great in oil. That said, even now GM uses a belt driven oil immersed belt on their 3L Duramax motor with a replacement interval that was just raised from 150k miles to 200k miles based on wear data they are seeing. Without question there has been some belt failures, but nothing that I have heard or seen that was attributed to a specific oil that met the spec requirements for oil.
@@zoeydee7168 yeah guess I've heard that too on the wet cam drive or oil pump belts. I believe they were first used on NASCAR engines. They liked them because they probably took less power to turn stuff & ran smoother as the belt absorbed much of the pulses and vibrations versus a chain or gear drive.
Nothing beats AMSOIL. Period
Your wallet does!
Lol amsoil fan Bois
Oil types don’t matter to me as much as changing it in spring and fall whether it needs it or not
How much do you drive? I change mine at least 4x every year
@@WN_Byers I only drive about 2k miles per year in that vehicle. I also have a 2019 car with 15k on it, driving about 3k per year, which I change once year under a dealer service program.
@@tr3vorb438 ok that makes sense
I use full sync oil in my cars as a poised to semi synthetic
PENNZOIL made from NATURAL GAS?
thanks...that is good to know...does anyone produce legit full synthetic?
🔔😎
Exactly correct.
....
So I will do the best I can under these circumstances...
IMO Mobil 1 oil and filter, 5,000 miles.
...
Im not willing to pay 2x the price for ultra hard to get Pennz ULTRA.
Group V oils the best synthetic oils. Redline was and perhaps still is an example of one. There is also NEO which had group V status
Very true...I know a guy that has Redline chief tribologist cell phone number. Amzoil is overated...a lot of chemistry and PAO base mostly...
POE esters aren't always the best application for synthetic. Esters are hard on seals and are mostly used for jet aircraft and serious professional race applications. Race engine oils often do not have a lot of anti rust, anti corrosive properties because they compete with the extreme pressure anti wear properties. Racing engines are torn down often and maintained more, pickled when they sit, especially the ones that use leaded & exotic fuels, so they don't worry so much about rust and corrosion. Also some additives don't like to stay mixed in esters.
Group 5 is a kind of catch all group for stuff that doesn't fit the other groups. It can include esters, glycols and other stuff that I don't remember right now. lol
I do syn blend 5w30 Motorcraft w/ Motorcraft Filter Every 5k at Ford. 2014 F150 Eco has 65k. Should I go to Full Synthetic?
Super Tech has a new line of additive package full synthetic high mileage oil, any thoughts on this one?
Interesting. I have a 2020 F150. 3.5l Ecoboost. What kind of oil should I use? I also have a 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0 straight 6 with over 180,000 miles. What oil should I use? Same with oil filters. My past vehicles. I used Fram filters and Quaker State. Oil.
What oil is the most synthetic? I have a collection of cars I want to keep pristine as possible .
I only use oil no synthetics. Even Toyota says use it my Camry has 230k miles and it sounds and runs like new.
I took my old simp car in for an oil change and tire rotation last week. The "tech" put 40 lbs air in the tires. He looked stoned. So I said ok then drove down the street to firestone, and they took out 10 lbs of air from all 4. After that I went to a nearby park to check the oil. Wish I could have taken the old car to you Ford Boss.
I change my oil and filter every 3000-4000 miles, so I buy whatever is the cheapest 5w30 which meets the API standards.
And you sleep well at night😴🛌
What’s everyone running in their vehicles here ? I’ve been running Castrol edge..at 4K miles.. sometimes in 2 and a half months.
Pennzoil Platinum, has the best base oil and can be found anywhere for a good price 👍
Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, changed every 5K miles.
I use Castrol GTX (Blend) in my ‘14 Tundra. In “full synthetic”, I like the Valvoline Advanced. I tried Castrol Edge once, and man did my engine tick n clank.
'99 Corolla 155k. Super Tech baby. Change every 3k
Liqui Moly molygen in my case. On the cheaper end I'll throw in supertech advanced full synthetic or stp high mileage full synthetic. 5,000 miles or 9-12 months change interval.
Any good Synthetic oil changed every 5k miles with the filter will exceed your engine's requirements! 3rd generation mechanic and engine builder.
Great info.
I have a 2006 F150 5.4 3V with 100K miles. My last oil change I used 5W 30 instead of the Ford recommended 5W 20. Would you do that?
I have a 2004 Mercury Marauder 4.6L 4V V8 with 157k miles. It started with 5W-20, then Ford changed the spec to 0W-20. Once I crossed 100k, I changed the spec to 5W-30. I always ran Mobil1 for motor oil and it gets changed with a Motorcraft filter every 5k miles.
I've heard you just stick with the oil recommeded for your vehicle in the owner's manual.
Yep 5W30 is fine. Ford calls for 5W20 as preferred, it's basically to help meet CAFE requirements.
I've got a couple of high mileage Tritons I switched them to AMSOIL 10W30 SS from 5W30 SS. I'm talking in excess of a quarter million miles, so I figured a touch higher viscosity won't hurt a thing in those worn engines. 10W30 SS still has a -52°F pour point and It is one of the least volatile oils. Been working good for me.
As well, I have heard Lake say as well that a Group 3 oil with additive package and some minor additions of Group 4 or 5 as part of that additive package, can perform better than a pure Group 4 or 5 in certain cases. So, a full PAO might seem better, but depending on the blended Group 3 with an excellent additive package, maybe not.
Is Mobil 1 "Advanced Full Synthetic" High Mileage full synthetic?
What about schaeffers oil?
What do you think is the closest to 100% synthetic and best quality oil at this time?
-probably the extended range or high mileage oils.
If I couldn't get AMSOIL Signature Series I'd probably use High Performance Lubricants or The best Mobil 1. But dang, HPL is Way expensive, even as compared to AMSOIL SS.
What weight would you use in a 2012 Mustang GT with a 5.0 Coyote, 5w20:or 5w30?
Doesn't Ford call for 5W50?
@@oneninerniner3427Only with the preformance package option , 5w 20 for a regular GT .
Okay sir. You are going to piss off the Amsoil fanboys. “Best oil on the planet and 100% synthetic”. I can not count the number of times I read that on oil forums or TH-cam videos comments.
About 7 years ago, I called Amsoil and spoke to a technician and he told me off the record, that if an oil is called Full synthetic or 100% synthetic, it didn't matter because it is considered a marketing tool.
Yup, and, that's what Mobil said would happen when Castrol got their way. It's now just a marketing term anymore. :(
Amsoil and liqy moly 100% synthetic
Nope
L183 👍
I use conventional 5W-20 in my 2018 Jeep jk. Runs great
Everything's a scam. Not shocked at all
Big oil snake oil 🐍 🛢 snakes
To echo what you said: 100% synthetic and full synthetic are the same thing. Amsoil may be a blend of group 3 and group 4 base stock just like “full” synthetics are. Pursuant to a 1990’s law suit between Castrol and Mobil 1, courts ruled that group 3 and 4 base oils are synthetic, therefore any oil that contains one or both of those groups, regardless of proportions, can be called synthetic. So as long as Amsoil contains group 3, even if it’s 100% group 3, they can legally call it 100% synthetic. Thus, 100% synthetic and full synthetic are synonymous. Amsoil admitted this in one of their own blogs.
I've told this story you are not educating me at all
As a matter of fact told it today with video on tik tok as well
And just because amsoil says so doesn't make it Bible
Guys, I still believe AMSOIL Signature Series still has a very large percentage of PAO in it. Probably their XL as well. The OE and the High Milage possibly not as much. But of course no company says, it's proprietary information they all say. But in the end it's how it performs and it's worked extremely well for me for a very long time now, so I'm happy.
@@FordBossMe I know. That’s why I wrote “To echo what you said”
I beg to deffer sir
I'm not asking
@FordBossMe to each there own ive been a auto mechanic for 30 years and still don't know everything but I do my own thing
@FordBossMe ive run semi synthetic are one cars witch aren't that old and we lost a quart at every 3500 oil change now I use full synthetic change the oil after 5k miles no oil loss. There is a difference. Just putting my 2 cents in
@@hillbillyhomestead1966 less volatile. It doesn't cook off as easily. Yup I've been wrenching for about mmm 50.