Nissan Ariya for me. Hands down. It has a better interior. It has a quieter cabin. And imo, the Ariya is also better looking. So, even though the Nissan Ariya is more expensive, I will still choose it over BZ4X.
I agree with what you are saying... Only issue is I went onto the Nissan Web site and ended up with a £55k car, with the specification that I liked. OK that's my choice... But I didn't like the price.
For what both cars offer they are too expensive compared to cars with the E-GMP plattform and modern 800 Volts technology. But also there is a problem with both companies lead by old men who have still other agendas in mind. Nissan will be the first to fail or must partner with Chinese companies like former Partner Renault and of course Mitsubishi. They even are no more able to supply electronic parts for their top of the line GT-R costing 150‘000 CHF, fortunately a Hong Kong based startup could help but the car was out of service for over 6 months! Nissan is dead already and Toyota/Subaru had - as they said; ‚problems‘ with bolts to fix the wheels!? In fact, they have battery problems which drastically reduce range!😂😎
@@EwanM11 This may come as a shock to you. But not all humans on this planet drool all over themselves whenever they hear about Tesla. Personally, I don't give a sh-t about Tesla. I'd rather own an Ariya.
Yes. I own a Ariya in Canada and loved it. I spent t many nights doing my research and came out choosing it. The whole family have test drove a few EV and we all love the interior and exterior styling and features on it!! Ariya hands down!
As an Ariya owner. I can say that it’s a fantastic car. At the moment I’m getting around 3.3 miles per kWh. So a smidge under 300 mile range from the 87kWh car. We have the 19” wheels. The 22kw on board is a must in my opinion. Opens up more charging options. I would agree on the ride. It can be a bit firm. But no worse than my old fiesta that was lowered 60mm when I was a teenager. It’s also better looking than most EVs in its class, although i admit that is subjective.
@@waynehobbs5175 everyone wants SUVs and SUVs carry more margin for the OEM. So here we are with big, heavy, barn door shaped cars. Its no wonder kWh/100km hasn't gone anywhere. Actual battery/inverter/motor efficiency was already incredibly high, I don't really think there is much gain to be made there. Its purely down to the rest of the car... Aero, weight, rolling resistance etc.
@@0tispunkm3y3r If car is almost free to drive who gets money? I bet those who have power to make difference doesn't use it because of money or greed to have it more and more and more......
We picked the top-end Ariya. It's amazing. Virtually all the other EVs are plastic jank and feel like overpriced rubbish. The Ariya is the single EV that has all the features and all the premium quality and interior of a 'proper' car. Am in love :)
I don’t get why people would option the 20 inch wheels on the Ariya. You lose 25 miles EPA range, get a little more road noise and intrusions into the cabin and don’t really look all that good (imo) vs the 19s with the aero covers.
Many value aesthetics over practicality, like women and their heels. I can’t blame them at all, although I side with you. I optioned my ID4 for the 19s vs the 20s.
I agree - the 19s on my Ariya Evolve with the Bridgestones (55 aspect) look very impressive,and are certainly more comfortable on our dreadful town roads than the 20s with a lower aspect.
Ordered my Ariya in September after test drive. Was instantly taken by it❤. Have a 18” leaf which has been perfect 👍 . Still waiting for delivery sometime in the next 4 months…..
@@paulz7716 Eh. Not everybody wants a Tesla. I'm on my second Leaf and I'm holding out for an Ariya or a Lyriq here in the U.S, even though there are Teslas all over the place.
@@robertcowher I get that but when you look at value for money and technology / package you get in each option, it must be emotional rather than rational decision to prefer an electric Nissan over Tesla. Waiting time also plays a role but the most annoying thing for me is all the little 'extras' that you have to add to make it comparable to a 'default' Tesla Y, especially LR model. You have much better infrastructure in the U.S. to use tesla anyway it's good that there is competition and that there are people who pay a little more and wait longer just to help diversify the market.
@@paulz7716 It depends on what you consider the "extras". A default model Y doesn't give you basic things like a gauge cluster, normal door handles, physical buttons, etc. I get that Tesla likes to make everything they do different, but it feels like they've taken away a lot of what makes a car functional and comfortable to use. If you're just looking at power and range, Tesla wins hands-down. Being a car though, it's questionable.
I drove both on the same bumpy roads I have to say the Toyota way a bit smoother but the aryia is absolutely beautiful inside it feels like you are outside it's so roomy and with the moon roof it is wonderful. I've never was one to want a car but after driving it I absolutely love it.
Nikki stands in a large knitted sweater, long down vest and knitted hat, while Mr. Ford stands in shirt sleeves A bit funny - you'd think you'd put two recordings on top of each other 😂🤣😅 Thank you so much for another great video 💞👌👍👍👍
Great comparison review! The Ariya just looks like the best looking electric SUV on the market in my eyes! It has the futuristic look like Kia EV6, beautiful and simple KIA/BMW-like interior design and looks as spacious as it gets with the moving console... the BZ4X looks like nah to me. I would happily spend that extra money for the feeling and looks of that top-end Ariya! Congrats to all that already did :)
Ariya is the superior design inside and out with several trim options for a wide budget range. Nissan has massive BEV real world experience second only to Tesla...
Ariya for me, I love Toyota and I’ve tried to buy it, but they always come short. Just picked up the Pathfinder over highlander because of towing and no V6 option. Will be getting this Ariya as well for my commuter. cheers.
Ordered my Ariya on Sunday through a lease scheme with work. Went for the 225kW Advance with the Bose pack and kept the 19" wheels. Extremely excited but now to wait for a build date!
I agree with your comments regarding wind/road noise on the Toyota, I took the Bz4X for a test drive and kept asking the salesman if the windows and doors were closed and if the tyre pressures were correct.
@@mikadavies660 you don't have to buy the most expensive one if you can't afford it. I believe it starts at 42k??? At 42k you get alot or most of the features you would want. If you don't have th pockets then don't get all the extras simple. 10k down on a 42k dollar cat would bring you down to a very reasonable car payment or if you don't have any car payment down payment you could spend the extra 200 a month and also save probably 100 bucks a month in gas or more depending on how much you are driving and make uo the difference on no oil changes or brakes needing to be replaced at all because of the regen brakes. Overall it's should be close.
@@occckid123 Agreed... Your gas is still very cheap in America... Diesel is $10/gallon in UK...!! 42k for the Nissan may be OK on a reasonable American Salary... But salaries in the UK are also shite... They said McDonald's is $20/hr? Here in the UK McDonald's is just $10.50/hr!! That is the wage difference. So 42k car might as well be 80k allowing for the wage difference. I have leased an EV... As that is cheaper than buying
@@mikadavies660 nobody said working at McDonald's is going to get you a nissan ariya lol. Working at McDonald's may not get you a car at all and if it does maybe a 10 yr old car
After driving the Ariya at the weekend wow! We already have a leaf and a Mercedes EQC and the leaf up until I drove the ariya was my fave EV, I’d get another Leaf if they’d sorted some battery cooling and CCS charging out on it! The Ariya is on my shortlist to replace the EQC now and unlike the model Y has the ride just spot on for UK crappy roads even with 20” it felt spot on ❤️ not cheap but they’ll sell bucket loads of them I predict!
That’s one thing I noted in the back to back Drive of ID for in the model Y the model Y is way too harsh, but I guess you could put smaller wheels on it.
I choose the Ariya and dont regret it after getting all the specs. Ordered Ariya the first day it was possible here in Norway. At the time there was no info about the BZ4X, but 22kwh ac charging in the Ariya and it can take 1500kg trailer in 4wd version instead of 750kg in the BZ4X sold it for me. Also, i owned a Leaf for 4 years and it was fantastic, so, the Ariya won it for me. But! If you need a more of an off-road car then I would have chosen the BZ4X, or infact SolTerra, it has a 4wd from Subaru after all.
@Mr. Wizeguy I actually tested the BZ4X today. The consumption number wasn't that high in my test drive. I have Volvo C40 right now until the Ariya arrives, and that one is thirsty at wintertime! It was -8° c when I was driving it. But. I'm still glad I chose Ariya.
@@EggertOlafs Well i have seen it tested here in Finland by TH-camrs and consumption was between 25 - 30 kW/100km sometimes even higher when temperature was around - 5'C. Also he used CCS charger and got only 51 kW max when SOC was 25%.
@@EggertOlafs I have had the Ariya since november 2022. Top spec fwd with 19" winter wheels. Average consumption in February in Sweden over 1820 km is 2,1 wh/km. Pretty good. Mixed driving conditions and speeds.
I reviewed both electric cars in my channel, and I must say they are promising! I personally prefer the Nissan Ariya, it looks more appealing (reminds me of the Renault Espace inside). The Toyota BZ4X was not really interesting Greetings from Belgium!
Ive test driven both, my emotional response having driven both was that I felt i would be getting second best if I bought the BZ4X, tand I did originally order one as it was a lot cheaper, until I found out that the wheels fall off, which Toyota UK nor the dealership told me, I had to find out during my research into why delivery was taking so long. Ive now bought an ARYIA.
@@Joe-ud2hb hello, I have the 87kw Evolve. Range is dependent upon many factors, as with ICE cars. The range has varied from around 220 to around 315. Biggest factor for range is the weather temperature but driving style etc of course also has an impact. Hope this helps.
@@johnmorris9695 Tks for that John, I've an Eniro myself for the last 12 months, great car 50k up already - bit of road noise on rougher roads only fault 64kwh getting close to 400 in winter dep on driving. Supposed to test drive a tesla MY tmrw just to see for myself, with price drop standard one now 49k ish...
The Ariya hands down, Toyota have been very very reluctant about joining the full EV game and very vocal that they don't belive in EV's I think it's clear to see the BZ4X is very much ab after thought car for Toyota. I fear they will not be as reliable as other Toyota brands or as reliable as Toyota thinks it will be 10yr warranty or not. I think you can see and hear the price difference. Would be interesting to see the Toyota go against its rivals in price rather than size or class? I think some smaller EVs might even give it a run for ots money in quality interiors etc.
@@benjaminsmith2287 I have seen it and its a concept, so not a production model ? When it comes to production if its as good and well made as they are saying it will be then I will happily celebrate Toyota. I an a fan of the Toyota brand, I just think they have not wanted to go all Electric (their own words) and have not given the Bz brand their usual level of dedication they do to other models they have released over the years. Its no secret that Toyota do not belive in pure EVs they have told the world that and sadly I think it shows in this particular model, that's all.
@@jamesmccormack3229 I mention the concept because it shows what Toyota is working on and some of this tech will go to upcoming models. The car will come out in that body style, at least that's what those knowledgable about Toyota are strongly hinting. It will just have a different, more production interior that's more like the bZ3 in China or the Prius. And I totally disagree about "doesn't want to go full electric."The Mirai is electric. It's not battery electric but it is an EV. Toyota doesn't love the current cost/state of BEVs. But that doesn't mean they won't go BEV or that they aren't working on BEV vehicles. But yes, they do like FCEVs more and that makes sense for a Japanese company where Japan doesn't have a lot of resources. I think the bZ3 and the concept SUV along with the Prius in some ways show the direction Toyota is going in with future cars. I wouldn't look for outstanding range but I would look for refinement and improving some car functions while having good-enough range and performance. I'd argue to expect Toyota to be Toyota, not Hyundai or Tesla or anyone else.
@@benjaminsmith2287 I agree with a lot of what you are saying, I think that their concept models will look the same or very similar when hitting production. The shape is not what I think is letting them down at the moment its their interiors and the lack of detail that Toyota in history has always been known for. Toyota as a company works to high standard ensuring their vehicles are known for reliability, affordable quality and durability. I personally feel (cause that's all this is, it's my opnion) having owned many Toyotas that this current BEV approach by them is not to the same standard as they normally would work to. Or the same standard as they have dedicated to the hybrids and hydrogen models that's all. As for disagreeing with their reluctantly to join the BEV market I am only quoting their CEO, so its them that have said they have reluctantly developed BEVs due to demand not due to desire. I agree for the Japanese market the other types of EV do make a a lot of sense as you pointed out. However they are the biggest manufacturers in the world at the moment and are not souly reliant on the Japanese market, no matter how big a percentage it is for them. Nissan and other are Japanese brands are working to be BEV driven while developing other types of EV for other markets same as other Japanese and non Japanese EV developing brands such as you stated Kia/Hyundai, Nio, BYD, Li Auto, X peng and Geely, just to think of a quick few. All if which seem to have higher quality interiors and possibly exteriors for similar money. Like I said I am a Toyota fan and I look forward to them developing more reliable better quality BEVs as they move forward, as yous said we should expect Toyota to be Toyota and not to be other brands, that is what I expected and the quality of the interior and materials used to develop this Bz model is not the quality and expected ( I hope I am proven wrong, howver just like many brands this model already has had quilts issues, and that is unusual for Toyota) . I do really value what your are stating and I may be have been too quick on this, I can't wait to see what they develop and bring next.
I have the feeling the Toyota felt a bit more solid and stable on the road. I wish Toyota gave the bZ4X an interior more like the new Prius than what they did in the bZ4. The Ariya seems like the nicer car, the interior looks nicer but in some ways, not as adventurous as the bZ4X, or as quirky, maybe? All in all, I think people drone on too much about range and tech and forget that people are still buying cars when they buy EVs. How they ride and drive and feel and how much service and reputation for service and reliability they have weighs a lot in why someone will pick a car over another, not always range or interface tech. You're still buying a car.
One question regarding the RZ4X. How much would a service at a Toyota dealer be? This could be a defining point when considering the 10 year warranty you get with it.
Personally I like the looks of the Toyota exterior more than the Nissan. That said could be down to the colour, I like red. Nissan wins on interior hands down. Just wish when reviewers do back to back they'd have cars of the same colour as colour can change the total looks of a car.
Thanks for an interesting comparsion. Nicki, you said "nice syntetic leather seats" about the seats in the Ariya. Yes, they do have syntetic leather, but this particular test car you sat in, had blue nappa leather seats - in other words, real leather. My favorite is the Ariya with exact same blue/black colour and the blue nappa interior.
I like my "dodgy wheel nuts" to remain on my vehicle so for that reason I would pick the Ariya. Also the BZ4X doesn't have a glove box and interior looks cheaper, and has a poor charge curve and range. Not sure how you concluded that the Toyota is more efficient because Bjorn and Out of spec reviews concluded the Ariya was more efficient.
@@benjaminsmith2287 Absolutely right. Nissan have sold hundred of thousands of Leaf's where water pools at the top of the shock bolt and it rusts off. No recall. A car company that does recalls is a good thing.
@@MaxDrougge maybe so. Alas they produce so few nit going to matter mutch anyway. The software update in May, may make it better. At least they are working to improve it.
BZ4X all the way for me since I plan to keep it for well over a decade, nissan has very poor reliability, and this being full electric makes it even more risky. Toyota also has far higher resale due to most reliable brand in the world, its more dull vehicle compare to ariya no doubt about it, but its just more sensible and logical for the long run
In Norway there has been a couple of tests of the Toyota, and especially the range part of it was a complete disaster. With the climate on it can't reach more than about 318 km/197 mi (in eco mode), even in fairly mild autumn temperatures on dry roads. Never seen a car further away from the WLTP range, and all EV's up here are tested the same way. The net capacity on the battery is around 60 kWh, despite Toyotas claims. Imagine how useless it will be in freezing winter temperatures. The BZ4X is just mediocre in almost every way that matters, perhaps unless you're going offroading. Low on power, cannot tow any useful load, short range and feels very cheap on the inside. Nissan at least makes an effort, and comes out with a really good car that has proper specs. It also looks way better both inside and outside.
I agree. Unfortunately, the Ariya has no support for the left elbow in the door (ok, there is, but it's way too low), which makes the driving ergonomics very annoying and therefore I can't consider this car myself (I am a tall guy). The suspension in the four-wheel drive model is also shockingly awful compared to e.g. any German electric car.
They will be sitting at dealers for a long time. From what I've read Toyota and Subaru ( the cars are sister cars ) are unhappy with their first EV effort that arrived with Chinese assistance. The Nissan is far too expensive as well
@@chrisordway7950 So they say. The power of FOMO marketing. I wouldn't believe a word of it to be honest. They are just playing with supply and demand to artificially keep prices high. Reasons being to pay for EV R&D costs and cover pandemic losses
Hey there, I like your channel quite a lot. One quick not on the Nissan. I used to drive a Nissan Pulsar and wanted to switch to EV. Because the ongoing delay with the Arica, we pulled the trigger otherwise. Finally bought a Tesla M3 and my wife and my two little sons are very happy with it. Now, after a visit at my „old“ Nissan dealership. In fact, I can‘t sit upright in the Ariya, no matter how low the driver seat is. My head is literally in the roof. I‘m 6‘2“ thought, but common.😬 In our Tesla I‘m comfortable with still a lot leg room behind me. Just saying. You do a great job Electrifying. 🙏
That sounds weird. I am taller than that. I went from the M3 to the Ariya and I'm not looking back. I have no problem with head room in the Ariya. I don't even have the seat all way down and still about 5 cm left to the roof. When I was driving the M3 no one could sit comfortably behind me in the backseat. I barely fit in the back seat of the M3 either. In the Ariya there is plenty of room behind me and plenty of room for me to sit in the backseat too. One of the biggest improvements though, is road noise. The Ariya is one of the most quiet rides out there. While M3 is one of the most noisy. The only downside to the Ariya is the DC charging I think. It could be quicker. Hopefully fixed or improved in an update soon. Although, with the big battery I have DC charged about 2 times since I got it 5 months ago. 10 000 km driven.
@@MaxDrougge I guess my body proportions make the difference. Taller in the upper body, relatively short legs. Road noise is a point, but I can live with it. Thanks for your insights.
@@ronnyherberger8485 you must have test driven an Ariya with the moon roof. I test drove one with the moon roof and my head hit the ceiling... same deal, 6'2 with a long torso. Bought one without the moon roof and have plenty of headroom.
Interesting video with valid comments well made. I ordered a base spec Ariya back in May and am due to collect it in December (all being well). I'm disappointed with the 3-year warranty as it's poor compared to the likes of Kia and Hyundai - and the 10 years for the Toyota is off the scale! Nissan must do better on that front in future. However, even the base spec Ariya I'm getting has an excellent spec with lots of equipment as standard, so perhaps, all things considered, I'll pay the warranty extension in 3 years and not feel too unhappy about it.
Not sure how it is in the European countries but the 5 year 60K bumper to bumper Kia/Hyundai offers is just a 3/36K warranty with an extra 2 years and some miles protection on low cost parts like window switches door actuators etc, not major components like the infotainment safety sensors etc Edit: here is what I was talking about: Audio system: Like the battery, your speakers and entertainment system are covered for 3 years/36,000 miles. Entertainment system is REALLY important since that’s where 90% of the computers that run the car are located and control almost every major function in most cars
I would rather go for the Nissan before the Hyundai/Kia though. We both know how they treat clients, and not to mention the scandal destroying evidences even knowing that their cars were killing people. I also prefer to prefer the car inside, and not being constantly recommended to leave it outside.
Welp… I guess I'd take the Ariya over the Bz4X, but… I don't think either of them can come close to what the Ioniq 5 offers. I once owned a 2012 LEAF, which I loved, but one would think that, as the first OEM to produce an EV, Nissan would now go all out to leapfrog all the competitors. Guess not.
Hybrids make so much more sense and all things considered over the life of the vehicle don't pollute much more production batteries recharging recycling.
Sorry to hear, hopefully you don't drive in cold climate max CCS is around 50 kW and consumption is around 25 kW/100km or even more when temperature goes below 0 degree Celsius.
Here in New Zealand where the BYD Atto 3 60kWh is selling by the ship load I cannot see either of these being anywhere near the value or availability. I own a BYD Atto 3, MG ZS EV, a Model 3 and Model X and the BYD is the best EV for the money.
Neither beats Hyundai/Kia's offerings, though, and that's their biggest Achilles Heel. The Ariya is a brilliant car for nearly two years ago, when it was originally meant to come out, but it's an attractive middle of the pack car in 2022. The BZ4X is just deeply underwhelming. The engineering is certain to be solid but,... It's not that great to sit in, the drivetrain packaging isn't really there, charging curves, based on real world testing, aren't great. It really does feel like the least Toyota could have done. Which it was. Then you look at something like my Ioniq 5. The drivetrain feels next level, charging is leagues ahead, styling and packaging are brilliant, it drives really well and you can buy one cheaper than either of these, if you spec it down. It's the car you get when Corporate supports EV development: great design, great technology from a company who genuinely believes in electrification - rather than seeing it as a "Carlos wanted that" side project or being positively hostile to it, as Toyota has been.
Those tests were flawed as the car hadn't received the required software updates. Toyota UK are doing those updates prior to giving the car to customers.
@@bryanduncan6178 I test drove and really liked the Solterra, but am very hesitant to pull the trigger since I saw the norwegian tests. First time I hear about software update to remedy this situation. Do have any link handy with more info on the matter? Thanks.
Nissan Ariya’s exterior design is very classically futuristic, simple but it stands out from the rest of the other e-vehicles. Interior design is again a continuity of the exterior design. It’s very neat and yes it’s just simple but classical. It has been my top choice since I saw one on a Nissan dealership way back in 2019 and although the actual availability happened 2-3 years later. I have not had a chance to test drive one, but hopefully soon!
I have driven a Nissan Ariya prototype and it’s just great. What a car! (We drive a Nissan Leaf 2018 now) That being said, I like Toyota over Nissan. The brand just offers more ’customer security’, and if u are driving this kind of budget I would take the 10 years warrenty together with Toyota's strong service. Also, I got some inside info that the Ariya would not offer bidirectional charging and the BZ4X will. Weird, I know, since the Leaf does offer it since the beginning... I’m going to test the BZ4X and compare the most important things for me being the interior, the boot space and autonomy. But when the bidirectional charging will never be supported the Nissan is just not an option.
We tested both Ariya and BZ4X before we saw this video, and completely agree with comments here. In 2024 the Ariya Advance with Sky pack is best VFM. We also tried Honda NY1(the salesman was not interested in selling EVs, just appalling), Jeep Avenger EV, Hyundai Ionia 5 and Kia EV6. I currently own a mid 2021 Tesla M3 long range Dual motor which we love, it probably just pips the Ariya. We ordered the Ariya for my wife to replace end of life 21 year old Honda Jazz, and in 3 years will go to one EV, we will either keep the Ariya or roll both into whatever is best spec then. Having driven an EV for 2 years I would confidently say the Ariya is well thought and a great car.
But you won't keep it that long, because you will be able to get electric cars that are lightyears ahead in a few years. Don't forget these electric cars today are still the very first models for early adopters with conventional battery tech.
toyota battery warranty is better only on paper, but irrelevant unless you are a taxi driver putting on 100k miles per year. Besides, the bz4x has been tested to take 58min to 10-80% DC charging.
Nobody mentions the small glove boxes under each front seat of the Toyota. It also did well on the four-wheel-drive test. Which is a big plus for me living in northern Indiana on the border of Michigan. So that’s probably why I tend to favor the Toyota. 🙂
Arya is a hands down winner here. BZ4X is out of the window for any climate that gets +10c or lower degrees centigrade. Charging speeds are horrendous and the battery pack is net 62kw instead of their claim of over 74kw. Consumption is on the high side compared to every car in the size segment and driving range is bad with the combination of a small net battery + high consumption.
That was a great watch. Interesting, funny and very professional. Close call but even though in the early days i stated that the Ariya was going to be very hard to beat, i think the BZ4X just gets my vote, Toyota's record and now 10 year guarantee is pretty awesome. I also think that 10 year Guarantee will allay fears of going electric. Best review you've done together, just brilliant.
And still only 3 year warranty? If the confidence on their reliability was that high , we would be talking about 5 years minimum and Nissan is not known to be one of the most reliable car makers around. Don't get me wrong, the Arya wins the overall comparison comfortably, but on the specifics of reliability and warranty, nope.
I’ve been searching FOREVER for a vehicle, other than a work truck, that doesn’t have a USELESS console preventing me from spreading my legs comfortably when I drive! Set the autopilot and swing your right leg out (left-side steering)! FINALLY!😂!🎉!! Thank you Nissan!!
I’d go for the Ariya… a much better-sorted, premium feeling car. The Toyota interior is poor and cheap looking, though admittedly that potential 10-year warranty will win it sales! Ultimately, though, both these cars are not likely to figure in say top5 in category. None of these would for example divert my attentions away from Kia’s Niro!
Not in motion they don't. The appointments are more premium. The feel of the cars in motion aren't. Try a Rogue vs. a RAV 4 over bumpy roads and you'll feel the difference. The Rogue is solid and good. The RAV 4 is more solid and very good.
When you buy a toyota you buy reliability resale value if you want everything perfect materials interior buy $ 100000 plus you going to get everything you want toyota always make car reliability i owned a venza hybrid limited 2022 i love it ok thanks for your video take care bye from milton Ontario Canada 🇨🇦
Wouldnt touch a Bz4X with a barge pole, as it has been beset with problems both Software and Hardware, aka a recall of all cars due to the Wheels falling off..... Toyota really should know better...
The Toyota password is hideous. If this is representative of where Toyota is going with EVs then they are in big trouble. The Ariya is OK but I am fast going off the big SUV look, and the 3 year warranty is very off putting. I don't think either of them can hold a candle to the Korean offerings.
Guys, with the ever increasing launches of new EVs, it's very nice letting us know about them, but you are all failing on the subject of servicing and maintenance. We have all become accustomed to the servicing schedule and cost of the ICE cars, but when it comes to EVs, it is a subject nobody talks about! So, come on! Tell us when car manufacturers recommend servicing and how much servicing costs! eg. One video blogger said his ID3 needed a service after 24 months, without any consideration for mileage, and it cost €325.
Our Leaf is seven years old and when I asked last year at MOT time if there was anything I should be asking the dealer to service the guy just said no. There's nothing for us to do. Feels weird after several decades of massive maintenance costs on fuel cars but there it is.
Once you see that windscreen heating wires you can't unseen them. Another thing you cant see is anything in the back as you don't have a rear camera washer.
To be noted : the BZ4X can be under warranty of 10years on the battery because it charges sooo slowly. So for longer treks - it can be a bit more annoying.
Look for mega deals on leases and no worrying about any further depreciation. Less than £5k a year easily available atm, quarter ends have the best deals.
What has the motoring landscape come to, when the best compliment you can give about a £50,000 car is that it's "competent" and "solid"...????? The world's gone nuts...! 😲
The interior of the Toyota just looks cheap, and those black panels on the outside look like you've got the base model where they don't paint all the panels
Both these cars trail the HMG equivalents in styling, charging speeds, tech, pricing and I wouldn’t mind betting efficiency. I am not in the market for a car of that size but I wouldn’t climb over the Ioniq 5 or the Kia EV6 to get to either the Toyota or the Nissan...And the look of the Toyota is just awful.
Fascinating video. I just cant get how people can pay £50+K for a family runabout. Is there a financial crisis going on or am I going mad? Top spec cars again? Real life people choices?
When the Ariya was announced I was pretty keen as it looked great on paper. But it’s been postponed to many times that I’ve managed to both conceive and take delivery of what is now a small child. Can’t see me selecting any of these over an Enyaq tbh.
As long as Toyota allows the dealer to jack up the price over $15K, it’s a NO for me. I test drove BZ4X a few months ago. And found out the dealer mark the price all the way up to the point it is going to cost me $73K out of the door without AWD. No thanks.
Yaaay, two more SUV's, everybody needs more SUV's... But seriously, where are the competitors to the MG4? It's almost as if European and Japanese car manufacturers are in denial over the fact that they should me making more entry-level sub-£28k cars. Who are these two cars for?
Nissan Ariya for me. Hands down. It has a better interior. It has a quieter cabin. And imo, the Ariya is also better looking. So, even though the Nissan Ariya is more expensive, I will still choose it over BZ4X.
I agree with what you are saying... Only issue is I went onto the Nissan Web site and ended up with a £55k car, with the specification that I liked. OK that's my choice... But I didn't like the price.
It'll have better residuals I would wager.
For what both cars offer they are too expensive compared to cars with the E-GMP plattform and modern 800 Volts technology. But also there is a problem with both companies lead by old men who have still other agendas in mind. Nissan will be the first to fail or must partner with Chinese companies like former Partner Renault and of course Mitsubishi. They even are no more able to supply electronic parts for their top of the line GT-R costing 150‘000 CHF, fortunately a Hong Kong based startup could help but the car was out of service for over 6 months! Nissan is dead already and Toyota/Subaru had - as they said; ‚problems‘ with bolts to fix the wheels!? In fact, they have battery problems which drastically reduce range!😂😎
Wow for that money, you'd be way better off stretching to a tesla model y long range.
@@EwanM11 This may come as a shock to you. But not all humans on this planet drool all over themselves whenever they hear about Tesla. Personally, I don't give a sh-t about Tesla. I'd rather own an Ariya.
Yes. I own a Ariya in Canada and loved it. I spent t many nights doing my research and came out choosing it. The whole family have test drove a few EV and we all love the interior and exterior styling and features on it!! Ariya hands down!
As an Ariya owner. I can say that it’s a fantastic car. At the moment I’m getting around 3.3 miles per kWh. So a smidge under 300 mile range from the 87kWh car. We have the 19” wheels.
The 22kw on board is a must in my opinion. Opens up more charging options.
I would agree on the ride. It can be a bit firm. But no worse than my old fiesta that was lowered 60mm when I was a teenager.
It’s also better looking than most EVs in its class, although i admit that is subjective.
EVs were more efficent 10 years ago. They should be down to 12kWh/100km (189 countries use this measurement) or 5.2 miles per kWh by 2022.
@@waynehobbs5175 everyone wants SUVs and SUVs carry more margin for the OEM. So here we are with big, heavy, barn door shaped cars. Its no wonder kWh/100km hasn't gone anywhere. Actual battery/inverter/motor efficiency was already incredibly high, I don't really think there is much gain to be made there. Its purely down to the rest of the car... Aero, weight, rolling resistance etc.
@@0tispunkm3y3r If car is almost free to drive who gets money? I bet those who have power to make difference doesn't use it because of money or greed to have it more and more and more......
Lowered Fiestas were proper class.
I would choose the Nissan Ariya. Looks nicer and I like the interior of the Nissan.
For similar price of this Ariya i would get a cool spec single motor iD-Buzz.. or a second hand i-Pace for off-road capability and better interior..
@@poplaurentiu4148 No and no
We picked the top-end Ariya. It's amazing. Virtually all the other EVs are plastic jank and feel like overpriced rubbish. The Ariya is the single EV that has all the features and all the premium quality and interior of a 'proper' car. Am in love :)
I don’t get why people would option the 20 inch wheels on the Ariya. You lose 25 miles EPA range, get a little more road noise and intrusions into the cabin and don’t really look all that good (imo) vs the 19s with the aero covers.
Many value aesthetics over practicality, like women and their heels. I can’t blame them at all, although I side with you. I optioned my ID4 for the 19s vs the 20s.
I agree - the 19s on my Ariya Evolve with the Bridgestones (55 aspect) look very impressive,and are certainly more comfortable on our dreadful town roads than the 20s with a lower aspect.
That's why I ordered my Ariya with the 19" inch ones.
I also picked 19" for my Enyaq 80x because more comfort and range.
Wheel sizes need to go back to 17 or 18.................Paul
Ordered my Ariya in September after test drive. Was instantly taken by it❤. Have a 18” leaf which has been perfect 👍 . Still waiting for delivery sometime in the next 4 months…..
you should have ordered Tesla Model Y long range - and would wait max 5 weeks in EU now :) plus there is a huge discount, so it's a no-brainer!
@@paulz7716 Eh. Not everybody wants a Tesla. I'm on my second Leaf and I'm holding out for an Ariya or a Lyriq here in the U.S, even though there are Teslas all over the place.
@@robertcowher I get that but when you look at value for money and technology / package you get in each option, it must be emotional rather than rational decision to prefer an electric Nissan over Tesla. Waiting time also plays a role but the most annoying thing for me is all the little 'extras' that you have to add to make it comparable to a 'default' Tesla Y, especially LR model. You have much better infrastructure in the U.S. to use tesla anyway it's good that there is competition and that there are people who pay a little more and wait longer just to help diversify the market.
@@robertcowher Can't stand the look of Tesla's........When more options become available, They will outsell Tesla.........Paul
@@paulz7716 It depends on what you consider the "extras". A default model Y doesn't give you basic things like a gauge cluster, normal door handles, physical buttons, etc. I get that Tesla likes to make everything they do different, but it feels like they've taken away a lot of what makes a car functional and comfortable to use. If you're just looking at power and range, Tesla wins hands-down. Being a car though, it's questionable.
I drove both on the same bumpy roads I have to say the Toyota way a bit smoother but the aryia is absolutely beautiful inside it feels like you are outside it's so roomy and with the moon roof it is wonderful. I've never was one to want a car but after driving it I absolutely love it.
Nikki stands in a large knitted sweater, long down vest and knitted hat, while Mr. Ford stands in shirt sleeves
A bit funny - you'd think you'd put two recordings on top of each other 😂🤣😅
Thank you so much for another great video 💞👌👍👍👍
Great comparison review! The Ariya just looks like the best looking electric SUV on the market in my eyes! It has the futuristic look like Kia EV6, beautiful and simple KIA/BMW-like interior design and looks as spacious as it gets with the moving console... the BZ4X looks like nah to me. I would happily spend that extra money for the feeling and looks of that top-end Ariya! Congrats to all that already did :)
Ariya is the superior design inside and out with several trim options for a wide budget range. Nissan has massive BEV real world experience second only to Tesla...
Ariya for me, I love Toyota and I’ve tried to buy it, but they always come short. Just picked up the Pathfinder over highlander because of towing and no V6 option. Will be getting this Ariya as well for my commuter. cheers.
Nissan has a really bad reputation at this point for building absolute junk.
@@dcast777If Nissan is junk then they would have went out of business decades ago.
@@Matt-oj2kl They've been close for a while now. They aren't going to be here in 10 years I bet.
Ordered my Ariya on Sunday through a lease scheme with work. Went for the 225kW Advance with the Bose pack and kept the 19" wheels. Extremely excited but now to wait for a build date!
Having a conversation together in the cab was the best part of this video.
I agree with your comments regarding wind/road noise on the Toyota, I took the Bz4X for a test drive and kept asking the salesman if the windows and doors were closed and if the tyre pressures were correct.
I think the Aryia looks way better inside and outside. However, I looked into the financing and it is definitely an expensive vehicle.
Put down 10k and get the base model which has most of the srtuff you want. Atleast here in america. .
@@occckid123 Unfortunately 10k won't help the £60k that it costs in the UK.
@@mikadavies660 you don't have to buy the most expensive one if you can't afford it. I believe it starts at 42k??? At 42k you get alot or most of the features you would want. If you don't have th pockets then don't get all the extras simple. 10k down on a 42k dollar cat would bring you down to a very reasonable car payment or if you don't have any car payment down payment you could spend the extra 200 a month and also save probably 100 bucks a month in gas or more depending on how much you are driving and make uo the difference on no oil changes or brakes needing to be replaced at all because of the regen brakes. Overall it's should be close.
@@occckid123 Agreed... Your gas is still very cheap in America... Diesel is $10/gallon in UK...!! 42k for the Nissan may be OK on a reasonable American Salary... But salaries in the UK are also shite... They said McDonald's is $20/hr? Here in the UK McDonald's is just $10.50/hr!! That is the wage difference. So 42k car might as well be 80k allowing for the wage difference.
I have leased an EV... As that is cheaper than buying
@@mikadavies660 nobody said working at McDonald's is going to get you a nissan ariya lol. Working at McDonald's may not get you a car at all and if it does maybe a 10 yr old car
After driving the Ariya at the weekend wow! We already have a leaf and a Mercedes EQC and the leaf up until I drove the ariya was my fave EV, I’d get another Leaf if they’d sorted some battery cooling and CCS charging out on it! The Ariya is on my shortlist to replace the EQC now and unlike the model Y has the ride just spot on for UK crappy roads even with 20” it felt spot on ❤️ not cheap but they’ll sell bucket loads of them I predict!
That’s one thing I noted in the back to back Drive of ID for in the model Y the model Y is way too harsh, but I guess you could put smaller wheels on it.
test drive bz limited
I choose the Ariya and dont regret it after getting all the specs. Ordered Ariya the first day it was possible here in Norway. At the time there was no info about the BZ4X, but 22kwh ac charging in the Ariya and it can take 1500kg trailer in 4wd version instead of 750kg in the BZ4X sold it for me. Also, i owned a Leaf for 4 years and it was fantastic, so, the Ariya won it for me. But! If you need a more of an off-road car then I would have chosen the BZ4X, or infact SolTerra, it has a 4wd from Subaru after all.
Good choice Bz4x has awful consumption in winter with low CCS speed would be really bad car for Norwegian.
@Mr. Wizeguy I actually tested the BZ4X today. The consumption number wasn't that high in my test drive. I have Volvo C40 right now until the Ariya arrives, and that one is thirsty at wintertime! It was -8° c when I was driving it. But. I'm still glad I chose Ariya.
@@EggertOlafs Well i have seen it tested here in Finland by TH-camrs and consumption was between 25 - 30 kW/100km sometimes even higher when temperature was around - 5'C. Also he used CCS charger and got only 51 kW max when SOC was 25%.
@@mr.wizeguy8995 Thats high.. but similar to my Volvo, but at least the Volvo charges much faster.
@@EggertOlafs I have had the Ariya since november 2022. Top spec fwd with 19" winter wheels. Average consumption in February in Sweden over 1820 km is 2,1 wh/km. Pretty good. Mixed driving conditions and speeds.
I reviewed both electric cars in my channel, and I must say they are promising!
I personally prefer the Nissan Ariya, it looks more appealing (reminds me of the Renault Espace inside).
The Toyota BZ4X was not really interesting
Greetings from Belgium!
Ive test driven both, my emotional response having driven both was that I felt i would be getting second best if I bought the BZ4X, tand I did originally order one as it was a lot cheaper, until I found out that the wheels fall off, which Toyota UK nor the dealership told me, I had to find out during my research into why delivery was taking so long.
Ive now bought an ARYIA.
Probably good for you, considering it also seems that Toyota has largely overstated both the range and charging speed of bz4x…
Hi John, hope you're enjoying the Ariya, what kwh do you have & what range are you getting, tks in advance..
@@Joe-ud2hb hello, I have the 87kw Evolve. Range is dependent upon many factors, as with ICE cars.
The range has varied from around 220 to around 315. Biggest factor for range is the weather temperature but driving style etc of course also has an impact.
Hope this helps.
@@johnmorris9695 Tks for that John, I've an Eniro myself for the last 12 months, great car 50k up already - bit of road noise on rougher roads only fault 64kwh getting close to 400 in winter dep on driving. Supposed to test drive a tesla MY tmrw just to see for myself, with price drop standard one now 49k ish...
The Ariya hands down, Toyota have been very very reluctant about joining the full EV game and very vocal that they don't belive in EV's I think it's clear to see the BZ4X is very much ab after thought car for Toyota. I fear they will not be as reliable as other Toyota brands or as reliable as Toyota thinks it will be 10yr warranty or not. I think you can see and hear the price difference. Would be interesting to see the Toyota go against its rivals in price rather than size or class? I think some smaller EVs might even give it a run for ots money in quality interiors etc.
Absolutely true..... troyota 👎
Did you see the bZ Compact SUV? Maybe check that vehicle out before coming to conclusions about Toyota.
@@benjaminsmith2287 I have seen it and its a concept, so not a production model ? When it comes to production if its as good and well made as they are saying it will be then I will happily celebrate Toyota. I an a fan of the Toyota brand, I just think they have not wanted to go all Electric (their own words) and have not given the Bz brand their usual level of dedication they do to other models they have released over the years. Its no secret that Toyota do not belive in pure EVs they have told the world that and sadly I think it shows in this particular model, that's all.
@@jamesmccormack3229 I mention the concept because it shows what Toyota is working on and some of this tech will go to upcoming models. The car will come out in that body style, at least that's what those knowledgable about Toyota are strongly hinting. It will just have a different, more production interior that's more like the bZ3 in China or the Prius.
And I totally disagree about "doesn't want to go full electric."The Mirai is electric. It's not battery electric but it is an EV. Toyota doesn't love the current cost/state of BEVs. But that doesn't mean they won't go BEV or that they aren't working on BEV vehicles. But yes, they do like FCEVs more and that makes sense for a Japanese company where Japan doesn't have a lot of resources.
I think the bZ3 and the concept SUV along with the Prius in some ways show the direction Toyota is going in with future cars. I wouldn't look for outstanding range but I would look for refinement and improving some car functions while having good-enough range and performance. I'd argue to expect Toyota to be Toyota, not Hyundai or Tesla or anyone else.
@@benjaminsmith2287 I agree with a lot of what you are saying, I think that their concept models will look the same or very similar when hitting production. The shape is not what I think is letting them down at the moment its their interiors and the lack of detail that Toyota in history has always been known for.
Toyota as a company works to high standard ensuring their vehicles are known for reliability, affordable quality and durability. I personally feel (cause that's all this is, it's my opnion) having owned many Toyotas that this current BEV approach by them is not to the same standard as they normally would work to. Or the same standard as they have dedicated to the hybrids and hydrogen models that's all.
As for disagreeing with their reluctantly to join the BEV market I am only quoting their CEO, so its them that have said they have reluctantly developed BEVs due to demand not due to desire. I agree for the Japanese market the other types of EV do make a a lot of sense as you pointed out. However they are the biggest manufacturers in the world at the moment and are not souly reliant on the Japanese market, no matter how big a percentage it is for them. Nissan and other are Japanese brands are working to be BEV driven while developing other types of EV for other markets same as other Japanese and non Japanese EV developing brands such as you stated Kia/Hyundai, Nio, BYD, Li Auto, X peng and Geely, just to think of a quick few. All if which seem to have higher quality interiors and possibly exteriors for similar money.
Like I said I am a Toyota fan and I look forward to them developing more reliable better quality BEVs as they move forward, as yous said we should expect Toyota to be Toyota and not to be other brands, that is what I expected and the quality of the interior and materials used to develop this Bz model is not the quality and expected ( I hope I am proven wrong, howver just like many brands this model already has had quilts issues, and that is unusual for Toyota) .
I do really value what your are stating and I may be have been too quick on this, I can't wait to see what they develop and bring next.
I have the feeling the Toyota felt a bit more solid and stable on the road. I wish Toyota gave the bZ4X an interior more like the new Prius than what they did in the bZ4. The Ariya seems like the nicer car, the interior looks nicer but in some ways, not as adventurous as the bZ4X, or as quirky, maybe? All in all, I think people drone on too much about range and tech and forget that people are still buying cars when they buy EVs. How they ride and drive and feel and how much service and reputation for service and reliability they have weighs a lot in why someone will pick a car over another, not always range or interface tech. You're still buying a car.
One question regarding the RZ4X. How much would a service at a Toyota dealer be? This could be a defining point when considering the 10 year warranty you get with it.
What Service.........Only service I've had last 30 Years has been oil changes.................Paul
Personally I like the looks of the Toyota exterior more than the Nissan. That said could be down to the colour, I like red. Nissan wins on interior hands down.
Just wish when reviewers do back to back they'd have cars of the same colour as colour can change the total looks of a car.
Thanks for an interesting comparsion. Nicki, you said "nice syntetic leather seats" about the seats in the Ariya. Yes, they do have syntetic leather, but this particular test car you sat in, had blue nappa leather seats - in other words, real leather. My favorite is the Ariya with exact same blue/black colour and the blue nappa interior.
I don’t think the blue nappa is real leather though , but feels and looks like it
I like my "dodgy wheel nuts" to remain on my vehicle so for that reason I would pick the Ariya. Also the BZ4X doesn't have a glove box and interior looks cheaper, and has a poor charge curve and range. Not sure how you concluded that the Toyota is more efficient because Bjorn and Out of spec reviews concluded the Ariya was more efficient.
So, Toyota's fix for the wheels doesn't matter because fixes for recalls don't fix anything. You're talking foolishness.
@@benjaminsmith2287 Absolutely right. Nissan have sold hundred of thousands of Leaf's where water pools at the top of the shock bolt and it rusts off. No recall. A car company that does recalls is a good thing.
Bjørn has not tested a BZ4X yet and the out of spec reviews was a US version of the cars which has a different battery with a lower charge rate.
@@carlarrowsmith now he has. The bz4x seems to be a disaster for Toyota.
@@MaxDrougge maybe so. Alas they produce so few nit going to matter mutch anyway. The software update in May, may make it better. At least they are working to improve it.
BZ4X all the way for me since I plan to keep it for well over a decade, nissan has very poor reliability, and this being full electric makes it even more risky. Toyota also has far higher resale due to most reliable brand in the world, its more dull vehicle compare to ariya no doubt about it, but its just more sensible and logical for the long run
I don't think anyone would pick Toyota BZ4X over Nissan Ariya. No way.
I like the blue interior color in Ariya looks awesome.
7:20 "it's nice, it's practical" after complaining that it doesn't have a glovebox.
In Norway there has been a couple of tests of the Toyota, and especially the range part of it was a complete disaster. With the climate on it can't reach more than about 318 km/197 mi (in eco mode), even in fairly mild autumn temperatures on dry roads. Never seen a car further away from the WLTP range, and all EV's up here are tested the same way. The net capacity on the battery is around 60 kWh, despite Toyotas claims. Imagine how useless it will be in freezing winter temperatures.
The BZ4X is just mediocre in almost every way that matters, perhaps unless you're going offroading. Low on power, cannot tow any useful load, short range and feels very cheap on the inside.
Nissan at least makes an effort, and comes out with a really good car that has proper specs. It also looks way better both inside and outside.
Few TH-camr has tested that car in Finland and with temperature around -3C max CCS speed was 51 kW.
I agree. Unfortunately, the Ariya has no support for the left elbow in the door (ok, there is, but it's way too low), which makes the driving ergonomics very annoying and therefore I can't consider this car myself (I am a tall guy). The suspension in the four-wheel drive model is also shockingly awful compared to e.g. any German electric car.
Great video, amazing cars but completely unaffordable for most people. Such a shame.
They will be sitting at dealers for a long time. From what I've read Toyota and Subaru ( the cars are sister cars ) are unhappy with their first EV effort that arrived with Chinese assistance. The Nissan is far too expensive as well
@@robsmall6466 I went to the Toyota dealer and they have a list that's about a year long wait to get a BZ4X.
@@chrisordway7950 So they say. The power of FOMO marketing. I wouldn't believe a word of it to be honest. They are just playing with supply and demand to artificially keep prices high. Reasons being to pay for EV R&D costs and cover pandemic losses
"Toyota weighs in at 49.5 thousand pounds.......didn't realize it was so heavy!
I love my Ariya, fyi the small electric "glove box" tray you can put a Chromebook on it easy.
10 year warranty here in Norway on the Toyota. Can't beat that
Hey there, I like your channel quite a lot. One quick not on the Nissan.
I used to drive a Nissan Pulsar and wanted to switch to EV. Because the ongoing delay with the Arica, we pulled the trigger otherwise. Finally bought a Tesla M3 and my wife and my two little sons are very happy with it.
Now, after a visit at my „old“ Nissan dealership.
In fact, I can‘t sit upright in the Ariya, no matter how low the driver seat is. My head is literally in the roof. I‘m 6‘2“ thought, but common.😬
In our Tesla I‘m comfortable with still a lot leg room behind me. Just saying.
You do a great job Electrifying. 🙏
That sounds weird. I am taller than that. I went from the M3 to the Ariya and I'm not looking back. I have no problem with head room in the Ariya. I don't even have the seat all way down and still about 5 cm left to the roof. When I was driving the M3 no one could sit comfortably behind me in the backseat. I barely fit in the back seat of the M3 either. In the Ariya there is plenty of room behind me and plenty of room for me to sit in the backseat too.
One of the biggest improvements though, is road noise. The Ariya is one of the most quiet rides out there. While M3 is one of the most noisy. The only downside to the Ariya is the DC charging I think. It could be quicker. Hopefully fixed or improved in an update soon. Although, with the big battery I have DC charged about 2 times since I got it 5 months ago. 10 000 km driven.
@@MaxDrougge I guess my body proportions make the difference. Taller in the upper body, relatively short legs.
Road noise is a point, but I can live with it.
Thanks for your insights.
@@ronnyherberger8485 you must have test driven an Ariya with the moon roof. I test drove one with the moon roof and my head hit the ceiling... same deal, 6'2 with a long torso. Bought one without the moon roof and have plenty of headroom.
Interesting video with valid comments well made. I ordered a base spec Ariya back in May and am due to collect it in December (all being well). I'm disappointed with the 3-year warranty as it's poor compared to the likes of Kia and Hyundai - and the 10 years for the Toyota is off the scale! Nissan must do better on that front in future. However, even the base spec Ariya I'm getting has an excellent spec with lots of equipment as standard, so perhaps, all things considered, I'll pay the warranty extension in 3 years and not feel too unhappy about it.
Not sure how it is in the European countries but the 5 year 60K bumper to bumper Kia/Hyundai offers is just a 3/36K warranty with an extra 2 years and some miles protection on low cost parts like window switches door actuators etc, not major components like the infotainment safety sensors etc
Edit: here is what I was talking about:
Audio system: Like the battery, your speakers and entertainment system are covered for 3 years/36,000 miles.
Entertainment system is REALLY important since that’s where 90% of the computers that run the car are located and control almost every major function in most cars
I would rather go for the Nissan before the Hyundai/Kia though. We both know how they treat clients, and not to mention the scandal destroying evidences even knowing that their cars were killing people. I also prefer to prefer the car inside, and not being constantly recommended to leave it outside.
The real usable battery size on the bz4x is around 60kw as the battery is 71.4kw gross so real world range of the FWD BZ4X is 200 miles.
87 kWh Ariya has a usable battery of 80 kWh. I don't why you stated that because all EV batteries have different gross and net capacities.
BZ4X has a 71.4 kWh usable battery and almost has the same range with faster acceleration.
Its 65 Kwh
Ordered my BZ4X and hopefully will collect on 15th December, I wanted it because it’s a Toyota
Enjoy your high consumption added with smallish battery capacity.
Welp… I guess I'd take the Ariya over the Bz4X, but… I don't think either of them can come close to what the Ioniq 5 offers. I once owned a 2012 LEAF, which I loved, but one would think that, as the first OEM to produce an EV, Nissan would now go all out to leapfrog all the competitors. Guess not.
Hybrids make so much more sense and all things considered over the life of the vehicle don't pollute much more production batteries recharging recycling.
I think you will find that hybrids are massively more polluting than BEV vehicles. After all your fuel source is petrol.
Both are late but will do very well. The demand for EV’s is still greater than supply. My BZ4X will arrive before Christmas!
When did you order it?
@@woodboroughvideo November 2021
Sorry to hear, hopefully you don't drive in cold climate max CCS is around 50 kW and consumption is around 25 kW/100km or even more when temperature goes below 0 degree Celsius.
Here in New Zealand where the BYD Atto 3 60kWh is selling by the ship load I cannot see either of these being anywhere near the value or availability. I own a BYD Atto 3, MG ZS EV, a Model 3 and Model X and the BYD is the best EV for the money.
You BYD people are creepy. Selling by the shipload lol. Nice hacked account you guys found.
@@trainingtheworld5093 Are you a real person? I use my real name and photograph. What are you smoking?
@@DavidKent0407 That byd stock aint going to pump itself. Pump fake byd account, pump!
Sat in both, Toyota steering wheel does in fact block part of the dash board. Ariya has head up display.
Love how you just casually mention the price of these cars like its normal, we don't all work in the city
Get my new Ariya next week, can't wait....
Neither beats Hyundai/Kia's offerings, though, and that's their biggest Achilles Heel.
The Ariya is a brilliant car for nearly two years ago, when it was originally meant to come out, but it's an attractive middle of the pack car in 2022.
The BZ4X is just deeply underwhelming. The engineering is certain to be solid but,... It's not that great to sit in, the drivetrain packaging isn't really there, charging curves, based on real world testing, aren't great. It really does feel like the least Toyota could have done.
Which it was.
Then you look at something like my Ioniq 5. The drivetrain feels next level, charging is leagues ahead, styling and packaging are brilliant, it drives really well and you can buy one cheaper than either of these, if you spec it down.
It's the car you get when Corporate supports EV development: great design, great technology from a company who genuinely believes in electrification - rather than seeing it as a "Carlos wanted that" side project or being positively hostile to it, as Toyota has been.
Hyundai/Kia have a set a new standard with Ioniq5 and EV6. And they look very cool as well. Couldn't agree more with you.
Tests in Norway shows that the Toyota hardly drives more than 310 km, 192 miles.
Those tests were flawed as the car hadn't received the required software updates. Toyota UK are doing those updates prior to giving the car to customers.
@@bryanduncan6178 I test drove and really liked the Solterra, but am very hesitant to pull the trigger since I saw the norwegian tests. First time I hear about software update to remedy this situation. Do have any link handy with more info on the matter? Thanks.
The current buffer at 0% is 8.2% of the battery - this is being reduced to around 5%.
This equates to around a usable capacity of 66 kW.
Nissan Ariya’s exterior design is very classically futuristic, simple but it stands out from the rest of the other e-vehicles. Interior design is again a continuity of the exterior design. It’s very neat and yes it’s just simple but classical. It has been my top choice since I saw one on a Nissan dealership way back in 2019 and although the actual availability happened 2-3 years later. I have not had a chance to test drive one, but hopefully soon!
I enjoyed watching the Video Comparison. Both Cars look great and offer something different 😊
I have driven a Nissan Ariya prototype and it’s just great. What a car! (We drive a Nissan Leaf 2018 now)
That being said, I like Toyota over Nissan. The brand just offers more ’customer security’, and if u are driving this kind of budget I would take the 10 years warrenty together with Toyota's strong service.
Also, I got some inside info that the Ariya would not offer bidirectional charging and the BZ4X will. Weird, I know, since the Leaf does offer it since the beginning...
I’m going to test the BZ4X and compare the most important things for me being the interior, the boot space and autonomy. But when the bidirectional charging will never be supported the Nissan is just not an option.
We tested both Ariya and BZ4X before we saw this video, and completely agree with comments here. In 2024 the Ariya Advance with Sky pack is best VFM.
We also tried Honda NY1(the salesman was not interested in selling EVs, just appalling), Jeep Avenger EV, Hyundai Ionia 5 and Kia EV6. I currently own a mid 2021 Tesla M3 long range Dual motor which we love, it probably just pips the Ariya.
We ordered the Ariya for my wife to replace end of life 21 year old Honda Jazz, and in 3 years will go to one EV, we will either keep the Ariya or roll both into whatever is best spec then.
Having driven an EV for 2 years I would confidently say the Ariya is well thought and a great car.
Ariya. Not even close. No comparison. Should be an Infiniti badge on it
10 year warranty and 6k less makes the Bz4Z hard to beat especially if you plan on keeping it longer than 3 years.. Ariya can tow more though..
But you won't keep it that long, because you will be able to get electric cars that are lightyears ahead in a few years. Don't forget these electric cars today are still the very first models for early adopters with conventional battery tech.
@@miskatonic6210 some might. I generally keep mine 3-5 years but it heavily depends on the warranty.
Unless you want a car that doesn’t take forever to charge and has a decent range, in which case steer well clear
toyota battery warranty is better only on paper, but irrelevant unless you are a taxi driver putting on 100k miles per year.
Besides, the bz4x has been tested to take 58min to 10-80% DC charging.
The Bz... has worse performance, less range, slower charging, no glove box or rear wiper, and is UGLY.
It's time you bought a sound level meter so you can do more that express your "feelings" about noise. (12:42)
Wish I could have the Ariya's interior in the Toyota's body!
Not me. Arya ia good.
How much will the services cost over its 10 years Nissan wanted £200 for big service and £150 for the small one when I got my Leaf in 2016
Nobody mentions the small glove boxes under each front seat of the Toyota. It also did well on the four-wheel-drive test. Which is a big plus for me living in northern Indiana on the border of Michigan. So that’s probably why I tend to favor the Toyota. 🙂
Arya is a hands down winner here. BZ4X is out of the window for any climate that gets +10c or lower degrees centigrade. Charging speeds are horrendous and the battery pack is net 62kw instead of their claim of over 74kw. Consumption is on the high side compared to every car in the size segment and driving range is bad with the combination of a small net battery + high consumption.
On this one Nissan Wins hands down ❤
So Aryia vs say ioniq 5 or ev6???
That was a great watch. Interesting, funny and very professional. Close call but even though in the early days i stated that the Ariya was going to be very hard to beat, i think the BZ4X just gets my vote, Toyota's record and now 10 year guarantee is pretty awesome. I also think that 10 year Guarantee will allay fears of going electric. Best review you've done together, just brilliant.
Nissan has more experience with electric cars, dating back to the Leaf, which is very reliable.
And still only 3 year warranty? If the confidence on their reliability was that high , we would be talking about 5 years minimum and Nissan is not known to be one of the most reliable car makers around. Don't get me wrong, the Arya wins the overall comparison comfortably, but on the specifics of reliability and warranty, nope.
Do you have any idea when the Riddara RD6 is coming to Australia?
I’ve been searching FOREVER for a vehicle, other than a work truck, that doesn’t have a USELESS console preventing me from spreading my legs comfortably when I drive! Set the autopilot and swing your right leg out (left-side steering)! FINALLY!😂!🎉!! Thank you Nissan!!
The Ariya looks better
I dident like the looks of the Ariya at first, but i love it now.
I’d go for the Ariya… a much better-sorted, premium feeling car. The Toyota interior is poor and cheap looking, though admittedly that potential 10-year warranty will win it sales!
Ultimately, though, both these cars are not likely to figure in say top5 in category. None of these would for example divert my attentions away from Kia’s Niro!
Not in motion they don't. The appointments are more premium. The feel of the cars in motion aren't. Try a Rogue vs. a RAV 4 over bumpy roads and you'll feel the difference. The Rogue is solid and good. The RAV 4 is more solid and very good.
When you buy a toyota you buy reliability resale value if you want everything perfect materials interior buy $ 100000 plus you going to get everything you want toyota always make car reliability i owned a venza hybrid limited 2022 i love it ok thanks for your video take care bye from milton Ontario Canada 🇨🇦
I believe Toyota are saying 90% SOH remaining at 10 years as well aren't they? Most others are only saying 70% at 8 years.
I really don't like the Nissan.
But I would choose it over the Toyota 😅
Wouldnt touch a Bz4X with a barge pole, as it has been beset with problems both Software and Hardware, aka a recall of all cars due to the Wheels falling off..... Toyota really should know better...
The Toyota password is hideous. If this is representative of where Toyota is going with EVs then they are in big trouble.
The Ariya is OK but I am fast going off the big SUV look, and the 3 year warranty is very off putting.
I don't think either of them can hold a candle to the Korean offerings.
fun fact
bz4x tested to take 58min to 10-80% DC charging. That EV is a joke
Glad you told us how much these cars will cost right at the beginning of the video because it saved my wasting my time watching it.
Guys, with the ever increasing launches of new EVs, it's very nice letting us know about them, but you are all failing on the subject of servicing and maintenance. We have all become accustomed to the servicing schedule and cost of the ICE cars, but when it comes to EVs, it is a subject nobody talks about! So, come on! Tell us when car manufacturers recommend servicing and how much servicing costs! eg. One video blogger said his ID3 needed a service after 24 months, without any consideration for mileage, and it cost €325.
Our Leaf is seven years old and when I asked last year at MOT time if there was anything I should be asking the dealer to service the guy just said no. There's nothing for us to do. Feels weird after several decades of massive maintenance costs on fuel cars but there it is.
Once you see that windscreen heating wires you can't unseen them. Another thing you cant see is anything in the back as you don't have a rear camera washer.
To be noted : the BZ4X can be under warranty of 10years on the battery because it charges sooo slowly. So for longer treks - it can be a bit more annoying.
Gamechangers??????
Absolutely not.
7:49 Nissan do a storage box for the space between the front seats. Perfect for holding that huge handbag!!!
I am using Nissan leaf 10 years
The wheels on your bz didn't fall off?
This is such a stale comment and it's not funny. Enough already. They had a recall, fixed it and move on.
The fix is finally here ;) Came in the beginning of October.
£55k for a family car - that's bonkers!! Who can afford that sort of money bringing up a family?
Look for mega deals on leases and no worrying about any further depreciation. Less than £5k a year easily available atm, quarter ends have the best deals.
Great video!! 👍
What has the motoring landscape come to, when the best compliment you can give about a £50,000 car is that it's "competent" and "solid"...?????
The world's gone nuts...! 😲
Wish they would use these new platforms to make sensible (and sensibly priced) 7-seat MPVs to replace the highly successful S-Max...
I went to see the Brzxrzy4s in the Toyota showroom. Felt like an unfinished product that was rushed out of the door.
Toyota nearly always do substance over style- but it all works on nearly every car they produce.
The interior of the Toyota just looks cheap, and those black panels on the outside look like you've got the base model where they don't paint all the panels
Team Ariya for me
Ariya seems a lot more pleasant. Not digging the Prius vibe interior of the BZ4X, been there done that :-) (the new Prius looks great...)
Both these cars trail the HMG equivalents in styling, charging speeds, tech, pricing and I wouldn’t mind betting efficiency. I am not in the market for a car of that size but I wouldn’t climb over the Ioniq 5 or the Kia EV6 to get to either the Toyota or the Nissan...And the look of the Toyota is just awful.
To be fair, they both look awful. The Toyota actually looks less awful than most of their ICE models.
Fascinating video. I just cant get how people can pay £50+K for a family runabout. Is there a financial crisis going on or am I going mad? Top spec cars again? Real life people choices?
will be interesting to do a 5 year review on these two to see resale value ect
I would get the Tesla Y over either of these two. Tesla is AWD, has awesome supercharger network and continuous improvements via OTA updates.
Until those software OTA updates disable your radar and ultrasonics. Or change your screen so you can’t read it easily.
When the Ariya was announced I was pretty keen as it looked great on paper. But it’s been postponed to many times that I’ve managed to both conceive and take delivery of what is now a small child. Can’t see me selecting any of these over an Enyaq tbh.
But can you fit a mason jar full of biscuits in any of the storage?😏
As long as Toyota allows the dealer to jack up the price over $15K, it’s a NO for me. I test drove BZ4X a few months ago. And found out the dealer mark the price all the way up to the point it is going to cost me $73K out of the door without AWD. No thanks.
#Nissan #Ariya is a great premium #EV with very nice #comfort 😎🤙
Yaaay, two more SUV's, everybody needs more SUV's...
But seriously, where are the competitors to the MG4? It's almost as if European and Japanese car manufacturers are in denial over the fact that they should me making more entry-level sub-£28k cars. Who are these two cars for?
Haptic buttons are the worse especially with gloves They are cheap and don't always work.
Otherwise great review