2023 Toyota bZ4X review - better than a Kia EV6? | What Car?
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- In our 2023 Toyota bZ4X review, Will Nightingale finds out if Toyota's new electric car is better than the Kia EV6 and Tesla Model Y.
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Video chapters:
0:00 What is the bZ4X?
2:00 Charging and range
3:00 Interior review
5:32 Rear seats and practicality
7:15 Driving impressions
9:34 Performance
10:14 Pricing and verdict - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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The car is impressive and the review very well done (it was about the car and not about the reviewer and that is always refreshing!). Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed! Thanks for the nice comment.
Charging is not good for a modern design.
Love it
@@whatcar I wondered if the message to me about being short listed is genuine. If so please confirm. Many thanks Regards Michael Griffin
@@whatcar Hi, you mentioned about 625.000 miles, I am actually a Uber driver and I do about 40-45000 miles / year, I currently have a Kia E Niro which is fantastic so far, but soon I will probably need to change because I am approaching 100.000 miles and the warranty will be gone. I checked what you mentioned about the mileage warranty up to 625.000 miles but I couldn’t find anywhere on Toyota website mentioning something like that, all they say is up to 10 years or 100.000 miles. Where do you have this information from? I appreciate if you can provide me with an answer. Thanks
"NICE piano black plastics" these words do not belong in one sentence...
Lol so true
Exactly..
To be honest I like piano plastic compared to other hard plastics. I am careful with my car and have no children. So far not a single scratch or sign of usage on my EV6. Depends on your usage. Although the option for something more durable would always be nice.
@@dasunikat1534 perfect for a single person or differences uses but not acceptable for a “family car”
I just purchased this car. Absolutely recommendable! Excellent car!
Another very informative review.
Toyota has had to recall every BZ4X back (which luckily at this point is only less than 3000 cars) because there’s a distinct possibility of the wheels coming off, which isn’t a great look when you’re travelling 70 mph on the motorway 😂
Still better than most VAG products.
Now and after 180.000 km
@@peterdebel7379 I disagree with you there, I once drove a VW Passat 2.0 petrol from new until 250,000 miles with no problems over 5 years.
@@antonthompson7838 and I drove a Passat Variant TDI in 2014, and after 2 years the trunk didn't wan't to close anymore ( lock got replaced, fixed the issue ). Later the car got recalled for a software upgrade after the Dieselgate scandal . Then after those VW ECU corrections, lot's of those "fixed" cars got broken engines. Luckily not mine, but colleagues of mine also with VW lease cars got a broken engine. ( Golf Variant TDI and Passat Sedan TDI ). VW didn't have enough spare parts at the time in EU to repair all those failed engines so my company was enforced to rent other cars to fit the gaps... I think every brand has their issues at some point in time. It's about how they deal with it.
At least Toyota recall their cars. VW will just tell you it's a feature.
All my cars, since 2006, have been Toyotas. I've owned both diesels and petrol cars, and now drive a RAV4 Hybrid. This is, clearly, a very important car for Toyota as it will be their first mass produced BEV. Obviously I like Toyotas but...their very reluctant adoption of BEVs does concern me. I want Toyota to remain a world class car manufacturer, but I wonder if they have the leadership in the company to move to BEVs as fast as they need to. I guess we'll know in pretty short order. Excellent review of the car, thank you!
Toyota also had two editions of RAV4 EVs, with the last version issued in conjunction with TESLA in 2012-2014.
Thanks for good reviews
Ok, when u print out miles and feet and inch . you should print out the metric version beside. Other chanels do so - it is more common in the big world to use the metric system.
I liked the test - and the car too =)
We'll bear that in mind. Glad you enjoyed!
Boris will not agree with you! He wants to change the world to use good old Imperial weights and measures. 😁😂😎
yes more metric less feet inches and toes 👍🏻
Hopefully that’s a pre production model - I’ve never seen a dashboard wobble like that before. Not even in my 1978 Allegro.
This Toyota looks like an allegro too
Yea that alone is a dealbreaker here wtf
@@Slimecrazy234 😂 true true
From the reviews of the American models fromm 3 minths ago or so, it would seem it's pre production. No way would that go past Toyota, it would be unheard of. The centre console, hopefully not..
I'm more weirded out by the lack of a glovebox..
Usually car makers try to save money from all other components, because the battery is extremely expensive, but holy fuck Toyota, this is just absurd. Such a half-assed attempt
Between this one and a and a Ioniq 5 77kw both front wheel drive which one would you chose? In Ireland they are the same price.
Ionic 5 is rear wheel drive.
Wonderful Review😊. Wanted to ask if You could Speculate as to how much will the Version You have Reviewed in this Video is Likely to cost here in The UK?
Hi Ivo - we were testing a AWD Premiere Edition. This is sold out in the UK, so the closest to it is the AWD Vision (£50,250). If you want a panoramic sunroof the price goes up by £540. Hope this helps.
@@whatcar Thanks a lot for your reply 🙂
I just wanted to ask how do you mean when You say it's "Sold out " in the UK?
@@ivonikolov8709 The Premiere Edition is a launch trim. It's no longer available to buy. If you order now, you can choose between Pure, Motion and Vision trim.
@@whatcar Thanks for the clarification again 👍
One last question for You which is Which of 3 trims you mentioned above is the Highest?
Does the Exhaust make any sound!!!
Exhaust sounds is like a music to me🦧
My £6000 Suzuki CELERIO has features apparently missing on this, like a spare wheel, a glovebox, and rear wash/wipe.
So... basically a very 'Toyota' Toyota...!
But, oh boy, that 10 year, 620,000 mile battery warranty...!! WOWZER...!
That is seriously impressive and really 'lays-to-rest' any EV-phobe's worries about battery life expectancy.
Terrific... 👍
It's marketing. Most EVs come with an 8 year powertrain warranty and unless there's a manufacturing fault any modern EV battery will sail past 10 years without serious problems with degradation.
Battery must be top notch for them to offer this ridiculous warranty. Very pleased to hear.
@@geoffreyphilip Standard offer from BYD for LFP chemistry.
Great video. Wonderful car.
Why is it identical to the Bolt?
Does bz4x has V2L feature like Hyundai ioniq 5?
Nope
Does this car have wheels now? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Efficiency?
OEM originality?
Battery chemistry?
ADAS effectiveness?
Engineering - battery cooling/heating, suspension under the hood/on the hoist analysis?
Safety?
What is the price ?
You forgot to mention the Toyota Scion iQ electric also
You didn’t mention whether you could see the driver display properly through the steering wheel. Personally, I don’t think the steering wheel has much travel and, in my normal driving position, the driver display is partially obscured. The car looks like it was initially intended to have a steering yoke and, without a HUD, you might not clearly see your speed. I’ve got a test drive this week coming and I’ll check out more clearly the steering wheel - driver display relationship.
Hi Peter - I had no problem seeing the display. You actually view it over (rather than through) the steering wheel. It's definitely worth checking it works for you, though. Best of luck.
A well presented balanced review. I test drived and ordered one immediately with my RAV4 PHEV as a part exchange. Thank you.
Did you get the refund for the bz4sx recall?
Nice review. Can you tell me how tall you are please re the head room in the rear seat?
You do look to appear very tall…..☺️
Thanks. 👍🏻
I'm about 183cm, so not that tall!
@@whatcar thank you for your reply. Keep up the great work. Ki Kaha from Aotearoa 🥰🙏🏻👍🏻🇳🇿☺️
I’m 191 cm and have no issues with leg space and ceiling. I also have a kid’s seat mounted behind me.
WOW, a measley 7kw on board AC charger. Shocking Toyota on a £42000 plus EV.
11 kW in most European countries, Toyota claimed 6,5h to fully charge the battery. however 11 kW is too low, 22 kW is needed as an option with all the occupied fast chargers. we even had a fight in Sweden over the single/lonely fast charger in a city 😂
@@_TrueDesire_ 7kw in UK
@@talkandplay i guess as an option extra that you can ask for the 11 kW charger?
11kW on-board charger will be fitted to UK cars built from Autumn 2022. Early cars will have a 6.6kW charger.
@@talkandplay still low as there are still quite a few 22kw public ac chargers out there. free ones at tesco too!
Having had an EV6 for six months, the launch of the bZ4x doesn't make me at all regretful. It will probably be a solid ownership proposition, but the EV6 is a better-resolved design, with longer range, faster charging and Toyota-level build quality. It's also great to drive.
The four wheel drive system is probably far better on Toyota/Subaru. Ev6 tested in winter conditions in norway. A bit disapponting.
@@sveinravnanger5181 in New England it did just fine I am up north no winter tires needed
Love the fact it looks a bit different 👍
EV6 FOR ME bz4x wheel archers don't do it for me
@Zero pardon me? korean batteries are the world standard now. Toyota uses the Chinese BYD batteries lol actually the whole car is BYD labeled as a Toyota
Sat in this car in Bath and was pleasantly surprised with the space in the rear. Nearly as good as my 2013 Nissan Note which has huge rear space. As Toyota has a solid 20’year back story with battery technology and a very long l million k battery guarantee I would definitely consider for my next EV car
The Million-Kilometre battery guarantee is pretty cool. Few would have believed an EV manufacturer would offer that ten years ago.
Easy to achieve when the weels come off from your car. Million kilometres wont be happening or with around 200-250km range in the cold. Sad case in terms of electric tech this BZ4X
I sat in this car at the L.A. auto show. The battery raises the rear floorboard and although there may be legroom there is no foot room and you sit at an awkward angle. Unless your rear passengers are small kids will not be comfortable! That's a deal breaker for me just in and of itself.
For the price, the ev6 and Ioniq 5 come out as better value for money, but the design will likely help this be a big seller, along with the Toyota badge
The design? It's dog ugly
@@jeejbeej at least it’s not as bad as the Subaru counterpart
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Toyota badge built by BYD
Many times this. "Big seller" is debatable - there's every indication that Toyota made this to be a compliance car. They'll sell enough to sneak out of the danger zone on emissions targets and I doubt they'll sell a single car more.
Everyone always forgets the stellantis Toyotas van derived cars were their first EVs of the current crop
I checked Gault Toyota in upstate NY on 9/29/22. They are selling these cars at $10k over list. They have two at ~$52k each. That's $62K plus tax or close to $70k and unless you are willing to buy this car for cash figure another $4K to $6K interest on a load. That brings the total to over $75K. Its not worth it.
Ugly, again. I'd happily buy a new car but there really is nothing I like nowadays, and the prices are just crazy. When cars start to look attractive again and the price of EV's goes down I'll consider spending my hard-earned money.
Exactly!! I want a car... Not an SUV that has horrible styling like that disgusting heap. If you want a smaller lighter ev like I'm after to replace my i3... There is nothing right now
This is just a list of compromises vs. the competition. "Not as fast" "Not as much headroom" "not as much choice with regen braking" (CHOICE IS GOOD!) "no frunk" "not as much boot space" "doesn't charge as fast" "interior isn't as good as,..."
And yet,....
"It comes close to our car of the year,..."
There are half a dozen EVs I'd take over this thing.
And since when was piano black plastic a nice material in a car?!
I get mine next month can’t wait ❤ 2024
you lost me at fabric on the dash bord ?
I wanted to know please, what is your height and how getting in and out of the vehicle is easy or difficult? Because I have a Toyota Corolla 2021. I want to replace it, because I have no room for the head when I stretch and I am 1.72m and it is difficult for me to get out
Hello Maor - I'm 183cm and access is fine. It's just rear head room that's a bit tight!
@@whatcar Thanks so much for the comment, and one more question, was the chair the most down, up or in the middle? (In terms of height)
Seen one of these in a showroom earlier. Interior quality makes early Daewoos feel upmarket. Really dont understand the massive black plastic bumper / wheel arch trims. It looks and feels naff.
First driving review i saw
We seem to be returning to the heyday of Japanese naming conventions.
Bring on the Bz4x 12pli Josephine X
Let's say that you drive 30 miles a day. How much will that add to your home electric bill if you only charge ar home?
So that depends on the kwh efficiency you are driving at.
Let's say that, conservatively, you drive at 3 miles per kwh.
Your 30 miles a day would take 10kwh out of the battery.
Next you'd need to take your home electric unit price (say 25p for example) and multiply that by the 10kwh used.
That equates to £2.50/day or £17.50/week (assuming you are doing those 30 miles, 7 days a week).
Hope that helps!
@@terminatoruk4921 nice. I do 78 miles a day so that's about 6 quid or just under. Currently my Prius costs me perhaps £12 or so I think for that at 58-60 MPG
I know What Car is a UK company, but there are a lot of international subscribers also. Could you please (at least as a info text) also state the range and consumption based on km and not just Miles?
What’s th real world range?
We'd estimate around 230 miles for the AWD and about 250 for the FWD (in the summer, that is). But we'll be testing properly in the UK in the next few weeks.
nicely made rental electric card
Excellent
Cold weather charging in this BZ4X is absolutely horrendous. Topping at some under 60kw charging speeds at rougly +10 degree centigrade. I cannot even think of considering this car as a traveller in a northern countly like Finland. There is no battery heating option in the car and a sales guy told me there is no quick fix to be had in the near future. Car has no heating hardware from production and no heating is confirmed for the near future production.
To be noted for example EV6 had problems in early production cars while not having heating in the battery with navi. So there is already a good proof of a "coldgate" At minus degrees like -10 or -20 cars had biiiiiig issues going over 50 kwh. Nowadays every single EV6 has navigation based battery heating and is capable of charding high 200kw's at winter. So EV6 and Ioniq5 had their problems fixed because it was just a software tweak.
Here on the toyota side we are talking a totally different scale of a coldgate since it is a hardware problem.
It's a massive dissapointment this Toyota.
Škoda Enyaq💪💪
This is a but better looking
@@oliverstemp9132 how for who. And Enyaq is cheaper.
@@zlatkobudetic1168 the bZ4X is better equipped than the Enyaq. I prefer the looks
This is against the Mach E and its sister Subaru Soltara EV.
Does it have DRL's?? coz they aint turned on! Slow to the game with just an average mid table effort.
I’d still go for the Kia EV6.
😆 Kia sucks.
Infotainment system unfortunately though is much better than an id4s.
What kind of review is that?
Fortunately! We don't rate the ID.4's infotainment system at all, so we're please than bZ4X's is better (if not perfect).
You mentioned that the rear floor is completely flat ? Liar you can see that the floor has a ridge in the middle so it's an untrue statement !!
Good informative review. I think I’d still consider the EV6 perhaps but good to see Toyota produce a competitive car and reasonable-ish price (unlike Tesla). No comments on waiting times for ordering new ? If keeping a car like this for 4 years say , would only make sense if doing X miles (whatever X is these days) otherwise a much cheaper ICE Rav 4 would make more sense economically.
Great looking car on the outside. I am not sure about the design of the steering wheel and centre display though. It looks a bit grey and 80s like a concept car from a Motor Show back when shoulder pads and Dynasty where on trend. The power/acceleration figures do look a little underwhelming but I am sure are fine for most people in the market for this type of car. It seems quite a brave decision to go 'sensible' on power compared to some rivals which seem needlessly quick. I like it a lot and waaaaaaay better looking than most other equivalents I think. Great review too, thank you :o)
Seems to be another hatch with no rear wiper - another case of style over substance 🧐
Battery's just aren't big enough. We should be getting 90kw minimum at the prices being charged. You'll then get a genuine 300 miles.
The battery technology just isn’t there yet. We don’t want even more weight in these cars with even bigger batteries.
@@AlanTov Cheap LFP chemistry
3:39 did you really just called the piano black "nice"? Like, for real?
"I know nothing and therefore you should subscribe!" To what, Amphetamine ?
The charging speed and acceleration are not good.
Love our bZ4x
No touring and likely no use as battery charger to other equipment (or home in high e time). Not that good for family car or outing.
Model Y has unique styling. Others would be difficult to find at a mall in a sea log look alike vehicles. I own 911’s as unique styling. I presently own a model X, 3, and a Panamera 4S. Panamera will
Go soon. I never realized how much maintenance on a gas car until I owned EV’s. Just tire changes. Expensive powerful cars like the Model X do not need more expensive maintenance
Uggg. THEY ARE NOT "HEAD RESTS" , they are head restraints. They are a safety feature to help prevent whiplash in a rear end accident.
Very professional review.
Recent software update, now real world range of 450km, as tested, far, far better charging results and still 10 years warranty.
Bjorn Nyland strongly disagrees.
@@swanvictor887 he does not, he has tested the upgraded version recently, big improvement
I looked at getting my first EV in 2018... Coming from a Toyota family, and with no Toyota EV at the time, I ended up with a Nissan LEAF... and later upgraded to Kia Niro EV... Toyota has always been anti-EV (at least its top-level mgmt)... so they are definitely late to the EV game and other EV makers are well ahead of them...
They invested in hydrogen cars, which still may be the future. Batteries use a lot of natural resources so one day it will be very expensive
@@UnseenSpirit Fuel cells are worse, require a lot of maintenance and can’t work without a decent sized battery. The efficiency of FCEV is half that of an BEV and requires a very expensive (both install and running costs) infrastructure. At least with a FCEV you know when it’s no longer on the road as the tanks have an expired date printed on the inside of the filler flap, that reads „do not refill after mm.dd.yyyy“ which is when the tanks are no longer deemed safe to use.
They're not that late. They are about 1 year behind Hyundai and Kia (unless you count the Nexo or Niro and the Niro isn't really a major car for Kia). Otherwise, they're about 1 to 1.5 years behind. That's nothing in the overall scheme of time.
The EV sceptics in Toyota have gone off with pention. The kids are running the show now, and there are some treats in the bZ family coming up!
I like the inside but not the outside. The extra too overstyled in my opinion.
It is no a 41 k car...no one on earth can get it for 41k. That's a fact!
Wobbly console is a design to reduce noise transmission. Whilst driving you won't notice it unless you want to. Toyota has a way of making cars with common sense and over time it pays off.
Great review, really looking forward to seeing how it compares when you’re able to drive it up against the EV 6 and Ford.. A bit surprised by the wobbly centre console but other than that looks pretty good to me I think it could become a serious contender
Hi u
Must be a pre production model?
I sat in one today, its solid! BUT, I must admit the interior plastics are a little hard and cheap!
So great toyota bz4 ev.
Tesla is king on acceleration and range. Also, some of teslas MSRP helps build superchargers. Other manufacturers leave charging stations to taxpayers or private
Would it kill car reviewers to put both miles AND km when they talk about range? I mean come on, it’s the internet, not every viewer is from your country. Good review otherwise, just irks me, that’s all. :)
Excellent, and interesting to see Toyota finally producing a contemporary EV.
Nice and quick review. Very useful. I m looking for an EV. l like the design of BZ4X. Happy with the range & space. How often do you charge in a public charger? It is a bit pricy when compare to rivals but it is a Toyota. I hate breakdown very very much.
I’d take an Ioniq 5, EV6, Mach E, Enyaq over this
Agreed
EV6 hands down better inside, and looks better outside
Very much agreed. The Koreans are both much better for a couple of grand less. The Skoda costs much less but has more space and a much nicer interior.
Rav EV was modified/made by Tesla, Toyota still pushing the hybrid, shame on you Toyota.
Kia EV6 every day of the week
I'm more tempted to buy the lexus equivalent..
You mean UX300 e? Yes that cutting edge 37KW peak charging curve with Chademo plug is superb! 😅
Lol, is that a thing? I knew about the all electric UX but that sounds a bit naff if you did a long journey
No, I was thinking more for waiting for electric nx.. Im scared what it might cost though looking at the plug in NX.
Should've bought an e up a few years ago..
Late and not good enough for the price compared to a Model Y or a Korean alternative.
So it’s a Subaru built body ?
nope, its 100% Chinese. The ONLY thing Toyota are responsible for are the badges.
If I was buying an electric car I would buy this because it is a Toyota. Yes the Tesla is quicker but the Toyota will be better engineered and a lot less troublesome. But Electric cars are overpriced and charging in the UK is still a pain. For similar money I would buy a Lexus NX. Thanks for the review
Lol, what is better engineering
@@archigoel Let me explain. Toyota is so reliable and well engineered because it doesn't implement new "unverified" features as other manufacturers do. Toyota takes its time testing and designing new features before implementing them in new cars. If you still don't understand then you may have to go and ask an adult.😉😉
@@bondjamesbond9041 They have no knowledge, othe manufacturers are years or decades ahead while Toyota wasted its efforts on „self charging hybrids“ which are now on their deathbed (finally)… They are clueless or don‘t want to sell their cars in the US because there they have charging curves well behind even Athena average lawn mower…
For exterior looks alone, I'd opt for the Kia EV6. Same with the interior too.
Though it's a Toyota. So you shouldn't get any problems with it.
Toyota generally have less issues than other brands which is great about them. Let's see how batteries hold up in the long term.
Apart from the wheels falling off. But other than that, sound! ;)
Yes generally… until the recent recall for wheel falling off. Is that fixable?
I had a test drive in this car (FWD Motion version) a few days ago in Essex UK and found it very nice to drive. Acceleration was good and using the Toyota version of 1 pedal driving (not full 1 pedal driving...it creeps and doesn't stop - there's a switch on the centre console that switches 1PD on or off) I found it very easy to drive. One thing I did like was that the small instrument/info binnacle is placed further forward than normal. It acts a bit like a Head Up Display. For me, in my 50's, it meant that my eye focus didn't have to adjust too much between it and the road. The car was very comfortable (18 Inch wheels) and as mentioned in this video, coped with bumps and humps with no difficulty.
A heads up display still is much better and the steering wheel doesn‘t obscure that one…
@@karlgunterwunsch1950 Hi Karl. I had no problems with the steering wheel obscuring the instruments. You are probably correct about the HUD being better, but cost-wise, this is cheaper and just as effective.
@@Musketeer009 Still it looks cheap and bolted on out of place.
@@karlgunterwunsch1950 I agree. The instrument panel holders do look cheap and nasty. Some mild texturing would probably improve the look somewhat.
@@Musketeer009 To be honest, they should be molded into the dash board cover - anything else still will look as if thrown in as an after thought or third party add-on. Even Tesla third party stuff for the M3 or MY is better designed and integrated into the dashboard...
This is a car that Toyota should have bought out at least 5 years ago
But now it’s very overpriced with a short range and slow charge rate
But saying that hope it’s got the Toyota reliability as standard (should have ).
It’s a bit cheaper than most of its rivals
@@oliverstemp9132 yes, but not enough to offset the much lower specs and range
@@jamespaul2587 it’s the same range and more kit than it’s competitors
Love this car! Look forward to seeing more of the BZ lineup. BZ hatchback is what I am really excited for.
Wow, yet another car that uses magic to keep the rear window clean.
Rear wipers are so old school.
Better than the EV6, I doubt it very much...
"The Guppy"
Toyota might make good powertrains, but damn the interior's falling apart already
I would say, "why do manufacturers feel the need to style electric cars differently?"… but Toyota have been making ugly SUVs for a while.
You didn't comment on how low the rear seat is. It is a problem with skateboards but there are solutions. Look at the Lucid.
I’ve owned some Toyota’s, faultless, reliable and cheap to run. But in 2019 I wanted to go cold turkey on fossil fuels and Toyota had nothing to offer. Now 3 years in to Kia e-Niro ownership, would I consider going back to Toyota? Not really. Their legendary reliability in the ICE/hybrid world means little in the world of BEV powered cars, my e-Niro will last just as long on do as high mileage as anything Toyota can offer. Toyota are some way behind the Hyundai group products in EV experience and the comparison with the EV6 and Ioniq 5 show it to be wanting. Toyota have also lost it on design, the thing looks really awkward compared to the flowing lines of the EV6 and the coherent design statement that is the Ioniq 5. I think Toyota will struggle to achieve the same success in EVs that they have in ICE/hybrid
It may be the case, but Toyota has reliable hybrids. If their EV are anything like those, then it will catch up soon enough. Although the future may still be hydrogen cars which they invested a lot into.
@@UnseenSpirit As I say ‘reliable hybrids’ is like saying ‘better video tape players’ in a world of DVDs. That’s why I call EVs the Ockham’s razor of cars, anything with an ICE just cannot compete on simplicity, ergo reliability and durability. Forget hydrogen FC's, that argument is long over and makes no sense economically or environmentally..history will show them to be a technology cul de sac.
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 hybrid's may not be the same as EV's, but at the same time, hybrid's do have batteries. Prius from Gen 2 (2004-2009) are still considered economical, reliable and still cost effective to run today. The batteries in them are smaller than an EV for obvious reasons, but still most are working and are original.
I don't know much about this particular model, but have heard that it shares the platform with a other company.
What I do know is, Toyota came from "behind" in the US when it was first introduced. It has become a world renowned brand with a strong reputation. I say when and not if, it develops an EV that is considered good, people will buy them. I've had many cars from different brands over the years, and Toyota has been trouble free for me while others have not been.
As for hydrogen, let's see how that goes. Materials for EV's, more cars being manufactured, metals becoming more expensive etc... May affect prices even more that an alternative is to be looked at.
One reason why I don't have AN EV is:
Range isn't that great unless you pay a lot. I get 550 to 600 miles out of 40 litres of fuel on my Prius which is also from 2009.
I drive 78 miles a day to and from work. A few minutes every so often at a petrol station is okay for me.
Older EV's have low range such as a Leaf. I'd have to charge every day or other day.
-It's quite a practical car size wise. I can fit quite a lot in it. I often go on air bnb trips and it can hold a lot, but I also recently refurbished my house and it fit a lot of furniture/contained a lot when I went to the recycling centre to dump things.
-Cost, an EV with good range of over 300 miles and a hatchback type vehicle is quite expensive in the UK. It would take me probably over a decade to make back any savings if I was to change from my Prius to a new car. A new Hyundai Ev6 starts at 41k...
I'd have to get an EV charging system installed at my house in Essex. I have a drive way which is great.
However I also live in London due to work on some occasions and I don't have a possibility to charge my car because my drive way in London also has access for the public in front of it.
Of course, once my car dies, I'll look into an EV. I've had newer cars in the past but at 33 mpg, the fuel costs were quite a lot.
@@UnseenSpirit The only valid argument you make for not having an EV is that you can’t afford one just now, that’s fair enough, I spent most of my life buying only used cars. That will change as used Evs come on the used market. FYI I am a retired Brit living in France, I know the London commute only too well. The e-Niro is equal if not more spacious than the Prius and these are I think mid £30’s K new in UK, the Ioniq 5 you mean is over £40k...too big for what I need but a great car. You don’t need a range of 300 miles, you need a range that allows you to drive for as long as you are happy to drive. 300 miles is London to Newcastle, no one in their right mind does that without a break. I appreciate that your Prius is economical but a 40 litre fill up will cost you what...£80?....I know people in the UK with the e-Niro who have home chargers and are getting £0.05/kWh from Octopus between midnight and 6 am. The average person does 18 miles a day in their car, so once a week plug in does the commute, school run and shopping trips for £2. a week...To do 550 miles @ 4 miles/kWh would be £6.50. OK, plugging in on standard rates of what 20p/kWh would make that £26 in an EV but you are still saving bucket loads. I have solar panels here in France and last year generated enough electricity to drive 15,000 km...about 75% of my driving. In 3 years our experience is that we are saving €1,500 a year on fuel and €200 on oil changes and other maintenance over the equivalent Niro hybrid. OK that was €10,000 cheaper to buy but the e-Niro is so much better to drive and for us a long term buy.. Hybrids are fine but they are like Kodak film in a world of digital cameras, no one will want a second hand hybrid with fuel at £2/litre when there are plenty of used EVs around, see if I’m not right on this 5 years from now.
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 I would not want a range of below 300 miles. I often go to wales on trips etc too. In theory, I would only need 65 miles in that case, since I don't travel more than that in one journey that often. However, charging mid trip would be annoying for me to a point that I don't want a vehicle if I had to wait 20 to 30 minutes charging.
I understand the cost saving, but like I said, I'd have to spend a lot upfront. I wouldn't make the money back for a very long time. While my prius has been paid for, is low cost on maintenance and reliable as any other car can be, which is not giving me any issues at all.
The only benefit of getting a enw car would be having a newer car. I use my vehicle to commute and travel and I don't need a new car. It is more expensive to travel than an EV, but mid 30k is a lot of money.
I don't own the latest phone, because my current phone is absolutely fine. I don't see a reason why I would need a new phone when I'm perfectly happy with it. Some people want the latest phones because the camera is new or it can do such and such. Not for me.
However if my Prius ever died forever or wasn't cost effective to to run, I'd consider an EV. However I would need an outdoor charger for one of my properties. That's an issue because I don't want to run a cable over a public walkway.
We have waited all this time for an overpriced car that can't utilize teslas superchargers as its charger is in the worst possible location. not easy for any public charger, but close to impossible on a supercharger. Another manufacturer still trying to slow ev adoption.
I quite like this model, however I am a little surprised to see the build quality inside, that in not like other Toyota's, they tend to be really well built.
The car is impressive and the review very well done
Price isn't competitive enough compared to more established manufacturers. Interior build quality is poor, boot is small for an ev and mpw is low.
Interior build quality is terrible, use the proper words mate
Just first impressions indicate its a monster size ? Years ago we all used to drive Ford Fiestas and had a family of 4/5 crammed in. Now we have a monster sized car with smaller families. No wonder the roads are struggling to cope.
We purchased a 2022 Hybrid RAV4 and it is impressive. I've never really been a big fan of Toyota cars until now. I'm looking forward to driving this vehicle when it finally arrives in NZ. I think it looks great, and if it handles like a RAV4, I will certainly be eyeing one up to replace my CX-3.
You must be very ugly if you think this car looks great.
Seems like there are better alternatives out there on paper. The only reason why I'd choose this is because it's a Toyota and I've had good experiences with Toyotas.