It’s the Triumph for me. I prefer the looks, the low down torque, the comfy seat and the shaft drive. So much so, I’ve just bought one and I’m loving it.
My R3 GT is so beautiful to ride. Powerful, stable, smooth and feels like a powerful Bentley! At 79 years old and after having had 30 big motorcycles (Including a Boss Hoss), this R3 is about at the top of my list. It has all of it! Comfort, power, shaft drive, amazing electronics and great looks!...the best combination of features ever in one bike. I love my 2019 X Diavel S but I find myself riding the R3 90% of the time.
Triumph has been around for years, sort of of on the lines of a Indian brand bike only certain people buy these bikes , but the triumph rocket r black sold me totally awesome, gorgeous, very sexy all business, for a cruiser sport bike makes a statement 😊
25K.😮 It doesn't seem like so many years ago that bikes like this were half this price. Feels to me like some cartel pricing going on these days amongst manufacturers!
Yes prices do seem high, actually MCN did an inflation calculator and compared to inflation they have actually dropped in price! Problem is that's assuming your wages have also increased inline with inflation 😫
@@LambChopRides Thanks for replying. I think this MCN pricing comparison with then and now only exposes how inflation is another tax on society. The rich tie their money up in expensive art pieces / property etc which is the only way to avoid inflation eroding personal wealth. Going a bit conspiratorial which I appreciate isn't what this channel is about 🛵. It just seems too much of a coincidence how different manufacturers have almost identical price tags on their product range hence my price fixing theory
Prices have gone mad but that’s to do with PCP finance. Why sell you a bike once, when they can keep you hooked on the line and coming back every 3 years? As a business model its better for them to have us on a slow monthly £ drip, rather than take a lump sump just once. Price the bikes out of reach but then offer low monthly payments, just don’t look at the small print % interest rates and balloon payment! Great dream bikes tho and loving the content Chops.
You're right (obviously), the Rocket does have presence and attracts attention. Last year I did 22,000 miles on mine venturing as far south as the Canaries and as far north as the North Cape. It's down to the bike that I now have so many contacts across Europe!
The rocket seems amazing for a cruiser, and the GT version would be awesome to try a longer trip on. I am really jealous would love to go on a long trip with a bike like that 😊
Cracking video gentlemen, I really appreciate it. I just purchased a pre-owned ‘20 Rocket 3r with ~1k miles on the clock. I’m now pushing 4k miles and everywhere I ride the bike I get spectators. It’s such a fun ride. Thanks again for the great video.
Thank you so much for the video, I own a black Diavel V4 thrill ride and it really is a lash of energy every time I lean it into a corner. When you open the throttle you feel the indomitable Ducati soul. That's the difference between riding a motorcycle and being on a saddle.
I was sat in my my van in Henfield last week having lunch and a rocket 3 r went past very slowly, my van vivrated along with the ground. I now know what I want next
Nice video. I'm 74, and bought the 221. I adore this bike. Starting out in first feels slightly hesitant, but once rolling sit back and relax, smooth. I sit in the garage in the morning with coffee and admire the GT. Ride well gentlemen.
I think the video nails it at 29.00, they are actually different category bikes. To me, Triumph is special and true to it's purpose and would be my preference. I saw a red one at the track once, guy couldn't keep up with race bikes of course but I rode behind him lap after lap and looked at it. I think i fell in love there :)
At my age (55) the Ducati is the perfect choice for me, fast, agile, not to heavy and looks amazing and with the akra exhaust, sounds amazing. The rocket is a lovely bike but why would you when you could have a diavel V4.
@@B41L3Y The disadvantages of shaft-drive are that it is a lot heavier than a chain and absorbs more of the engine's power before it reaches the rear wheel compared to a chain system
Had a Rocket 3 and went to a Diavel V4… I had it for about a month before I sold it. No comparison to the comfort and grunt on the Rocket. Ended up buying another Rocket. For me it’s the best bike out there. That low end grunt makes so much more sense on the street. Really regretted selling the rocket at the time but thankfully it all worked out with minimal loss $ wise.
The Rocket is more Bentley Continental GT than RR 😊 Whilst the Ducati is clearly quicker, I prefer the philosophy of the Rocket and the type of riding it would draw me toward. Performance bike riding on public roads is dying out. Plus, when I consider the rides that I complete thinking 'I feel good', it's that kind of ride. I used to ride 1000cc sports bikes like the S1000RR, which normally ending with a bit of a sweat on, checking all limbs still in place, followed by a couple of weeks in anticipation of the postman delivering something nasty..
That last half sentence exemplifies the sentiments of almost any driver/rider who's enjoyed a "spirited" day at the wheel/handlebars. You have to be soooo wary of *ALL* potential "photo opportunities" these days. Just TWO high speed errors could easily cost you your licence.
The rocket looks more like a farming tractor, literally is like a huge fat bonneville frame and tank with an old tractor engine. It draws attention for sure, like a circus freak!
I absolutely love this segment of bikes. I am turning 50 in January God willing and bikes like these just make sense to me at this point. I should be dipping my toe into the muscle cruiser world today when I pick up my new Harley Sportster S if the service shop is finished making the switch to mid controls. I can’t wait to get it out there and I kind of think the Rocket 3 may be the ultimate destination I am headed towards. Good stuff as always. Thanks for sharing another great video. 👍🏾
Brilliant vid guys. Really enjoyed it. I think you've hit the nail on the head. Triumph & Ducati have approached things in a very different way. Each has its own unique USP & they're not really the same type of bike but you'd be really happy with either.
Good review. I think the Rocket captures the cruiser ethos better. I've had more Ducatis than most people likely have had motorcycles. I bought the Rocket 3 R rather than the V4 Diavel. Yes, the Diavel is quicker, and better handling. Overall I found the Rocket more fun to ride. The bottomless torque is just addictive. A simple flash of the ECU for the cost of a BT OBD2 adaptor and you unlock about another 25PS at the rear wheel. That definitely closes the acceleration gap. Thankfully Ducati has gotten better with service intervals but I've spent more on Ducati maintenance over the year than what a V4 Diavel costs new. The running costs are pretty dear on them. Insurance is another factor. I have a lot of bikes and that adds up pretty quickly. By comparison, my Rocket 3 is one of the cheapest bikes I own to insure. My last Diavel (xDiavel 1260S) costs almost 5 times what my Rocket does to insure. The riding position is more comfortable for me and the saddle on the rocket is much better. I can spend hours on it and still be comfy. After a 30 minute test ride on the V4 Diavel my butt was already hurting. All in all the Ducati wants you to push it all the time to really enjoy it. On the Rocket it can hustle pretty well but is very content at just "cruising". Downsides to the Rocket are significant heat off the cat. It can drink fuel like a V4 Ducati or Aprilia. Lack of stock quickshifter. I do have to make a note that the accessory quickshifter is one of the best, and smoothest, I've ever used on a bike and shame it isn't standard. Rocket isn't as nimble as the Duc but surprisingly good. All in all both are fun but the Rocket is a lot more unique. Definitely a conversation starter everywhere I go. My Ducs are typically ignored as they are quite common. I still have a Multistrada and a Streetfighter. Almost all the Ducati's I've owned are best appreciated when riding fast. The Rocket is fun most any time for me. I never tire of having that hand of God pushing my back at any rpm when I twist the throttle. You could leave the bike in 3rd gear if you wanted and ride anywhere.
Don't you think that saying that the Ducati is quicker and better handling, but the Triumph is more fun to ride is something contradictory? Yes the Triumph looks more like a cruiser bike and the Ducati is more like a naked sport bike, but for me the most important part of a bike is the performance and handling in the road
@@anonymous_PR They are not contradictory. Think of a different way. How often am I pushing the bike to its limits in a turn or at peak acceleration? Anything at less than about 9/10ths pace and I enjoy the Rocket. The Rocket has immense torque that pushes the bike forward at a healthy rate regardless of RPM. The Duc has to be way up in the RPM range to really pull the Rocket. The Rocket is making good power no matter what RPM. I don't care if it is a little bit eclipsed right up at redline. Do the flash (basically free with Tuneec if you have a BT adaptor) and it will easily run with the Diavel. Another thing to keep in mind, is if you are a big person, or riding double, that extra weight has less of an effect on the Rocket's acceleration. As for handling, a slightly taller rear tire really sharpens up the handling on it as well. I am a big fan of the shaft drive and minimal maintenance it requires. Nobody talks much about it in road tests by the Triumph has better lights if you ride at night a lot. They are both fun bikes, but for 95% of my riding, I'll still take my Rocket. I keep a multistrada around for whenever I feel like going on a longer trip. Buy what makes sense for you. If I lived in the mountains or spent most of my time there, I'd probably take the Diavel. Most everywhere else, I'll take the Rocket. One last plus for me is the insurance costs. I spend $180/yr for full coverage and high limits of liability, 500 deductible. My Diavel cost me about about $800 with the same coverage.
Man, your comments are so salient and informative! Like someone else said, during the video I was changing my mind constantly on which bike I wanted, but I am now sure I want the Rocket!
@@mikebetts9677 Glad to help. For me fastest isn't always better, unless I am racing. I have to say of the 12 bikes I currently have (yes, I am an addict), the Rocket is the one I ride the most with my Janus Halcyon in 2nd place. In the last 5 months I've added a tune and went with a different muffler. The muffler saved about 25 pounds and reduced the heat under my crotch in the summer time. The tune and muffler added about 30 whp to it. It pulls very nicely to over 7k now and still has that immense low end torque but with an even stronger top end pull. Saving almost 30 pounds was a nice benefit and makes the bike even better handling as it feels more nimble. If I could only keep one of all my bikes, it would be the rocket. Superb all around bike. Comfy to take my wife on too.
Brilliant video, absolutely seamless between the comms and the switching of camera to the other rider throughout. Really high quality stuff. Deserve more subscribers!
I was almost about to correct you by saying it should be a 60-100kmh roll-on then I realised you quoted miles per hour, which is pretty much the same :) !!
Roll on test, Try both of you same time, third beep of the horn. Been using this way way before comms. Superb viewing on my 65-inch 4K OLED with the high production values that we often take for granted. Well done Lucio CecchInello Racing. 🤔😉
funny is that R3 is limited to 60% of it's engine power with throttle mapping, ecu it to 100% then it can match acceleration to V4 Diavel but it may be unnecessary because these bikes are a bit in different categories. Excellent bikes both of them. And thanks for the good review! 💪🏼
Love the looks on both bikes , Overall looks and the sound, the Triumph wins for me , another great review, and the banta between the both of you is brilliant ,
Man I miss my 2015 Diavel Carbon....Think with the new 60k valve adjustment intervall, I'll renew my vows with the Diavel in a near future. Keep up the good work, you're by far my favorite TH-camr for motorcycle content. Cheers from Quebec, Canada
I would have thought the Rocket smashed the Duc in rolling comparisons, instead it's the opposite! Surprise. Anyway, as an italian I would go for the Triumph every time. 😆 The X Diavel, though... Thanks for the vid!
did a testride with the V4 and loved it, it was like it was fit just for me when i got on it, when we came back my mate and i agreed we want one but it's just a bit to expensive now for us. Job well done for Ducati
So different, it's almost like trying to compare a high end Harley bagger with a Goldwing. I doubt there's much cross shopping here. Most owners of each probably had their minds made up at first glance. Great reviews.
Did our own Rocket 3R v Diavel V4 challenge today & test ride. From a rolling start (each bike in 3rd & travelling @ 60kms) both bikes were level for the first 1.5 secs before the Diavel took off and didn’t look back. After jumping off my Rocket, the first thing I noticed on the Diavel was how light the bike is as well as how you seem to sit in it rather than on it. Other observations include how easy it tips into the corners as well as how it seems to get its second wind in the higher revs. It was also surprisingly vibey compared to the Rocket. Wasn’t expecting that. Both quick shifters are excellent with the Diavel’s being a bit smoother in the change. Couldn’t agree more that the Rocket is more like a high performing Bentley in terms of its performance/appearance/finish & plushness of its ride while the Diavel is closer to an Italian sports car that just wants to go….and go and go!!! Can’t go wrong with either.
Only thing I’d add is the lack of wind protection on the Diavel. The low Triumph tour screen makes an appreciable difference. Once on the Diavel, the wind resistance was noticeable. No doubt a small screen will come out for the Diavel that doesn’t take away from its looks. Worth considering if you’re forced to do highway kms.
The profile of the seat & tank combined with the slightly elevated bars gave me the impression that I was sitting lower in the bike. The Rocket’s seat and lower bars pushes your upper body slightly forward leaving you perched on bike. Strangely the Rocket has more wind protection with the small touring screen making a difference.
Rocket for me.. a-mazingly comfortable seat, shaft drive. Add a shifter/blipper, the available sequential indicators & delete the pillion seat.. just perfect
This was the best video ever for those torn between cruising and sport riding. I want to love the Rocket, but I wish it had a sport riding position and some more clearance. Damn, the Rocket is beautiful!
Always enjoy your videos Tom. Re measuring temperature while out I started using a couple of sensors from Sensorpush a while ago (they provided a couple to use on a winter trip to Mongolia, temps down to just under -5°C. They are really good, connect to a phone app and store temps internally for a few months as well. Also, battery life is ridiculously good. Recommended. Geoff
Wonderful video , you and Greg managed to fully describe the bikes because you notice different things. Keep up the fine work Chopsy 👍👍 One thing I've noticed, is that the Ducati GT v4 motor seems to sound better than the Desmo .....
The prices of these two will not scare serious buyers away I would buy the Ducati in a heartbeat , thanks Greg and Chops , BSA called and wants their chrome back !
I’ve owned both and agreed with all you said. I’ve actually got a v2 xdiavel nera now. One of 3 in Ireland. I like the Ducati twins and I’ve a bad knee so it’s a great all round bike for me. 🤘🏻 good review guys. You two are great together. We call the rocket the buzz lightyear bike
Very good vid. I owned a Vmax in 85. Also the big Boss Hoss 502cid. It wasn't really that fast off the line and over 1400 US pounds. Now I have a 2024 Triumph Rocket 3 GT. For me, the Triumph is the best cruiser to date. The Hayabusa wasn't mentioned. I ride the Hayabusa but it is my neighbor's bike. Not comfortable. But fast.
Hi gents. Great video, best comparisons on TH-cam! Don't know about you chaps but I see myself straddling a big British Shaft! The Italian v4 is gorgeous too,... what a beautiful dilemma to have if 23k is burning a hole in your pocket? C ❤
I feel like old Greg is a perfect addition to the channel and I really enjoy these comparison videos you have started. I feel like this particular comparison is a little strange though since the V4 Diavel is not really a cruiser. "It does not feel like a heavy cruiser" No because it is not a heavy cruiser, it is a naked bike with a wide back tire that is it! So everything like drag races and stuff with a Sportbike like the Diavel compared to a cruiser like the Rocket 3 is pointless. Of course you guys are going to love the Ducati as you guys prefer sportbikes to cruisers :D Since Greg liked the Ducati so much, you should instead compare it to the Yamaha MT-10 he liked and see what he thinks about it then, would be much more interesting ;P The X Diavel would have been a better fit in this comparison since it is as close to a cruiser you can get with Ducati. And what is it with Chopsy and "getting a cup of something warm" ? Dont you guys have summer in the UK ? You should say grab something cold it is fu*kn 25 degrees outside, It is beer or shandy season Chopsy! 🤣 PS. Can you sometime in the future please change that intro song you have had for ages Chopsy ? It sounds like the soundtrack to a german hardcore p0rnomovie 😅
Another great review Chopsy and Greg .👍 Not sure which one i would choose between the two either !!!? Both look great but being a triumph fan ! The rocket for me .👍👍😀 pity the roads where very damp there built for the sun those two . But chopsy i would keep the H2 over both .😁
Hmm, a bit of a Cop-out at the end, gents lol. For me, the Diavel. I think the Rocket captures the 'look' of motorcycling spirit, but the Diavel nails the 'spirit' itself. It is more complete as a motorcycle when it comes to what I consider the most important factor: riding. Personally, I could care less of people admiring me tootling through a town. It is the magical thrill of a headlong rush along twisty roads on a nice summer day, knowing my machine can safely deliver and perform and get me home, again, in comfort.
As always, thanks so much for your efforts. I’ve been wondering about the Rocket/Diavel comparison and I’m thinking it isn’t quite apples to apples. The Diavel is a freaking Ducati! I mean, a Ducati is going to be a Ducati, right? I would think a far more objective comparison would be to Harleys and Indians. In that respect, the Rocket would surely shine.
Lovely review as usual I think chops leaning towards the diavel more same here as well , however m still convinced that vmax gen2 still the best performance cruiser build tell date however its discontinued. Would love to do review on one of these I believe it's not on the channel vedio archives. Thanks mate !
Just a little tip Chopsy, don't put E10 in these bikes. Especially from that Morrisons in Horndean. It's renowned for having bad quality petrol. The extra ethanol content makes it pretty bad for steel tanks, as it's considerably more corrosive than E5. Shell V power every time and you can't go wrong 👍
Fantastic video guys, thanks for posting. Not really any surprises in the end - both amazing machines, but it does ultimately boil down to personal preference and what you want the bike for.
Lads - cracking review. Ducati for me. Just a small point- hopefully not picked up by roads policing…. 56 in a 30!! Careful how you go with the editing!!
Would like to see the rounded rocket lights on a street triple / speed triple. The bikes on test are stunning with Rocket edging it I think on wow factor
Excellent comparison, gents. I'm with you, I think the Triumph has the Ducati beat in the looks department, but I'm not ready to let go of my inner hooligan quite yet, and I can't afford to buy both, so I think it would have to be the Ducati.
Just taking the Rocket off the kick stand and standing it up on the show room floor, I thought there Is no way can deal with this weight. if you are stopped and the bike leans a little in one direction or the other. there is no way I could stop it from falling over. of course if I owned it I would get used to the weight and how to deal with it. and hopefully never have it fall over on me. but just a couple of weeks ago my DUCATI Supersport was parked between two bikes. and I needed to back it out of the spot. and for some reason I didn't want to sit on it. so I tried walking it backwards. and my body was in the wrong position and the bike leaned just an inch over and I almost lost it because I had no leverage. so in the same situation that Rocket would've been on the ground. but for me I would love to own that Ducati V4 Diavel. what a beautiful machine. I never thought I would be a Ducati guy, but since getting my 2017 939 Supersport with 2159 km on it just a month and a half ago. I am a total Ducati fan because of how much I love my new bike. but I also love Triumph. but have never owned one. personally I don't really look at the Ducati Diavel and think Cruiser. I think there are better cruiser bikes to compare to the Rocket.
The Diavel is a “mega” naked. It’s heavier than a hyper naked but the same amount of power of a hyper naked. The Rocket 3 is a genuine power cruiser. Makes almost as much torque as horsepower. 149ci is a huge motor and the fact it can mildly rev is awesome.
@@mattyoz0 it doesn’t tho. The Ducati has a marginally bigger engine than the Speed Triple 1200 RS with the same amount of power in the same places. It’s not even a similar comparison little boy.
@@mattyoz0 yeah the Duc just doesn’t have it where it counts. It’s a fatass super naked. The R3R has double the engine capacity with 1 less cylinder. It has more power 1000 rpm above idle than the Ducati does for the first half of its rpm range. The Ducati is a power loser not a power cruiser.
@@RadDadisRad I don't know why you're talking about the Speed Triple and in case you don't know the Diavel's engine is a detuned superbike engine, they've made it with a lot more power than any Triumph has ever made. The point was the Diavel beats the Rocket in every single measurable performance metric, and that's just a fact. It's faster off the line, faster in a drag race, faster in the corners, brakes better, handles better...it's just plain better. In fact even the old XDiavel with the twin engine still beats the Rocket in every way, and that's a feet forward cruiser too. Turns out putting a 350lbs engine in a bike might make for some interesting headlines but doesn't actually work out that well for performance or handling.
Great review of a couple of cool bikes. You must have some amazing time management skills if your holding down a full time job whilst producing quality content
You didn't want to say the Ducati feels like a teenager and the Triumph feels like a retired mans bike I'm 51 and I own the Ducati X Diavel S...I'm not retired yet!
I like the styling of the triumph mirrors the way it looks . The ducati looks more street sport bike than cruiser , bimbo brakes seem to be the braking standard on many high end vehicles, not sure where this country that these bikes being critique of it's likes & dislikes i feel you two didn't get the full benefits of the true potential due the roads you are riding im sure speed limits restricted the ride, but if you was able to ride on open road with some curves would tell a better story, i wish the new Suzuki Hayabusa was in this test as that bike is a sport touring bike but a little lighter , i own a 2017 Hayabusa i didn't know there was a new Hayabusa out as i have never heard of the rocket r by triumph if i was buying a cruiser bike for me I choose the triumph rocket r black, this style of bike reminds me of years ago yamaha vmax a sport cruiser , again i have never been a fan of ducati bikes not because they are bad bikes just wasn't my style of bike , all my past bikes been Suzuki street bikes but by accident i discovered triumph rocket r cruiser im sold that me my choice, it looks all business 😀 my opinion only
Interesting comparison, they are different. I am biased as I bought the Rocket and sport mode is something else. I guess they were on Road mode - for a roll-on I'd slip into Sport and hang on. A great cruiser with adrenalin mode.
Would've loved to have seen the VMax in this video. Thanks Jonzi and "gregorio" 😂most entertaining. When you coming to Aus for a proper hoon review?! I can host you
I am literally making my own decision about these two bikes as I'm there now in life. I think the Triumph just takes it for me, the Rolls Royce analogy is spot on, I love the big, imposing presence of it.
In few words: Ducati is SPORT-cruiser, Triumph is sport-CRUISER. Differences in video looks big, but in reality, it is like comparison between the best formulas F1. But other mainstream cars are a few laps behind. I prefer cruising, maybe my figure is larger, therefore GT is much more comfortable for it. And the finishing and details of Triumph are several generations ahead of Ducati. During summer I try to do test ride on DV4, I am curious. But surely I will not change it for my R3GT.
Currently own a 1260. Had a speedmaster and a storm. Something for me about triumphs that doesn't gel. I can't describe it, but based on your handling assessments of both bikes and my enjoyment of the 1260, I'd put my money on the V4.
What’s crazy is Carpenter Racing has multiple stages of modifications for the Rocket 3. So 200+hp for stage 1 and close to 230hp for the stage 2 and 260 for stage 3.
I was waiting for this comparison. I was down to theses two bikes for me and the DV4 was the bike for me. The power,the handling,the technology and 100lbs lighter. All I could ask for. Now all I need is an affordable exhaust.
I was looking at the Triumphs at the dealership last week, and came away very impressed by the high quality of the finish. But, as a former owner of 2 Monsters and Hypermotard , it's the Streetfighter for me next...
Cant wait to try out the diavel v4. I own the multi pikes peak with the gt engine. Also have a 21 r3gt (bren tuned with carpenter pipe). Also have a 14 r3r carpenter 240 whp set up. The new rocket is light years from first gen rocket. Fitted with optional quick shift and un restricted it is a differnt bike. Like complete different bike, Full hp to 8k rpms. p.s. triumph is pretty stable even up to 170mph. Also not a brand loyalist becouse i loved my 15 diavel ti and 16 xds.
I've always loved the Diavel but I've loved 3 cylinder motorcycles longer. Put a hilariously large one into a big cruiser bike and you've got me figured out. That said you've got Bri'ish reliability and an engine which really doesn't seem to have any character. Sure it makes gobs of torque at any RPM but it doesn't seem to have any soul. My love for triples comes from my Yamaha XS850 because that engine makes every ride an event, it makes riding special.
I bought a rocket 3 in 2004 anorange tribal paint scheme , which I still own , at the time rumours in the motorcycle mags ( remember them ) that triumph were making something big. , originally they made it a 1600, but while testing the rides said it was great but needed more power , they increased it to 2300 and the testing at bruntingthorpe the test riders wrote 3 bikes off and during testing , and reported back ,that’s it perfect , when I first got it , every time I parked it their would be a queue of bikers waiting , all asking the same questions , mister is it heavy , does it handle and is it fast , the answer to all those questions is yes , I remember doing 155mph down a hill and it felt like 225 , also I have a Ducati diavel , gen 1 and a 1260 diavel , out of the ducatis the gen 1 was a beast, the jury’s out on the v4 , until I ride one , and I’m not sure about the cylinders running v2 and turning into a v4 at 4000 rpm ,
Great review guys.. I reckon you'd get a great deal from Ducati on 2 Diavels ;) I each.. trick them up with different parts to compare, be great content
It’s the Triumph for me. I prefer the looks, the low down torque, the comfy seat and the shaft drive. So much so, I’ve just bought one and I’m loving it.
Yeah it’s a great bike! Enjoy it! I have a 2020 myself 😊
Damn, what a great purchase man, congratz!
Good choice. If I was 15 years younger, I'd have one.
Ducati all day long for me, I love both but I only get one choice.
Same I’d go for the Rocket 3, looks and that 2.5ltr great lump
My R3 GT is so beautiful to ride. Powerful, stable, smooth and feels like a powerful Bentley! At 79 years old and after having had 30 big motorcycles (Including a Boss Hoss), this R3 is about at the top of my list. It has all of it! Comfort, power, shaft drive, amazing electronics and great looks!...the best combination of features ever in one bike.
I love my 2019 X Diavel S but I find myself riding the R3 90% of the time.
Thanks for your review!
What about heat on low speed?
living in USA never tought much of Triumph, but totally fell in love with Rocket3. love at first sight❤❤❤
Triumph has been around for years, sort of of on the lines of a Indian brand bike only certain people buy these bikes , but the triumph rocket r black sold me totally awesome, gorgeous, very sexy all business, for a cruiser sport bike makes a statement 😊
25K.😮 It doesn't seem like so many years ago that bikes like this were half this price. Feels to me like some cartel pricing going on these days amongst manufacturers!
Yes prices do seem high, actually MCN did an inflation calculator and compared to inflation they have actually dropped in price! Problem is that's assuming your wages have also increased inline with inflation 😫
@@LambChopRides Thanks for replying. I think this MCN pricing comparison with then and now only exposes how inflation is another tax on society. The rich tie their money up in expensive art pieces / property etc which is the only way to avoid inflation eroding personal wealth.
Going a bit conspiratorial which I appreciate isn't what this channel is about 🛵. It just seems too much of a coincidence how different manufacturers have almost identical price tags on their product range hence my price fixing theory
Too right bro!
Prices have gone mad but that’s to do with PCP finance. Why sell you a bike once, when they can keep you hooked on the line and coming back every 3 years? As a business model its better for them to have us on a slow monthly £ drip, rather than take a lump sump just once. Price the bikes out of reach but then offer low monthly payments, just don’t look at the small print % interest rates and balloon payment! Great dream bikes tho and loving the content Chops.
@@LambChopRides yes, good point, it hinges around your salary keeping up with inflation.
You're right (obviously), the Rocket does have presence and attracts attention. Last year I did 22,000 miles on mine venturing as far south as the Canaries and as far north as the North Cape. It's down to the bike that I now have so many contacts across Europe!
The rocket seems amazing for a cruiser, and the GT version would be awesome to try a longer trip on. I am really jealous would love to go on a long trip with a bike like that 😊
wow
i did 10000miles 🎉
Cracking video gentlemen, I really appreciate it. I just purchased a pre-owned ‘20 Rocket 3r with ~1k miles on the clock. I’m now pushing 4k miles and everywhere I ride the bike I get spectators. It’s such a fun ride. Thanks again for the great video.
i find it perplexing how many motos have only 1,000. miles i bought 2 like that!
Thank you so much for the video, I own a black Diavel V4 thrill ride and it really is a lash of energy every time I lean it into a corner. When you open the throttle you feel the indomitable Ducati soul. That's the difference between riding a motorcycle and being on a saddle.
I tested both and went with the Triumph!
I was sat in my my van in Henfield last week having lunch and a rocket 3 r went past very slowly, my van vivrated along with the ground. I now know what I want next
Nice video. I'm 74, and bought the 221. I adore this bike. Starting out in first feels slightly hesitant, but once rolling sit back and relax, smooth. I sit in the garage in the morning with coffee and admire the GT. Ride well gentlemen.
I think the video nails it at 29.00, they are actually different category bikes. To me, Triumph is special and true to it's purpose and would be my preference. I saw a red one at the track once, guy couldn't keep up with race bikes of course but I rode behind him lap after lap and looked at it. I think i fell in love there :)
At my age (55) the Ducati is the perfect choice for me, fast, agile, not to heavy and looks amazing and with the akra exhaust, sounds amazing. The rocket is a lovely bike but why would you when you could have a diavel V4.
fit and finish is better on the Triumph, the Ducati has so much plastic covers you can barely see the engine.
Shaft drive…mic drop.
@@B41L3Y The disadvantages of shaft-drive are that it is a lot heavier than a chain and absorbs more of the engine's power before it reaches the rear wheel compared to a chain system
The Diavel is closer related to the Speed Triple 1200 RS. The Rocket 3 is in a different class all together.
@@RadDadisRad what are you on? the speed 1200 RS is a naked just like the v4 streetfoghter.
Had a Rocket 3 and went to a Diavel V4… I had it for about a month before I sold it. No comparison to the comfort and grunt on the Rocket. Ended up buying another Rocket. For me it’s the best bike out there. That low end grunt makes so much more sense on the street. Really regretted selling the rocket at the time but thankfully it all worked out with minimal loss $ wise.
Well, now I know what bike to buy ...haha....
The Rocket is more Bentley Continental GT than RR 😊
Whilst the Ducati is clearly quicker, I prefer the philosophy of the Rocket and the type of riding it would draw me toward. Performance bike riding on public roads is dying out. Plus, when I consider the rides that I complete thinking 'I feel good', it's that kind of ride. I used to ride 1000cc sports bikes like the S1000RR, which normally ending with a bit of a sweat on, checking all limbs still in place, followed by a couple of weeks in anticipation of the postman delivering something nasty..
That last half sentence exemplifies the sentiments of almost any driver/rider who's enjoyed a "spirited" day at the wheel/handlebars. You have to be soooo wary of *ALL* potential "photo opportunities" these days. Just TWO high speed errors could easily cost you your licence.
Haha I know that feeling well! 😅
Yeah because with a diavel v4 you ride the speed limit, load a bs. Buy what you like.
The rocket looks more like a farming tractor, literally is like a huge fat bonneville frame and tank with an old tractor engine. It draws attention for sure, like a circus freak!
I absolutely love this segment of bikes. I am turning 50 in January God willing and bikes like these just make sense to me at this point. I should be dipping my toe into the muscle cruiser world today when I pick up my new Harley Sportster S if the service shop is finished making the switch to mid controls. I can’t wait to get it out there and I kind of think the Rocket 3 may be the ultimate destination I am headed towards. Good stuff as always. Thanks for sharing another great video. 👍🏾
You two make a great team in conveying motorbike nuances.
Brilliant vid guys. Really enjoyed it. I think you've hit the nail on the head. Triumph & Ducati have approached things in a very different way. Each has its own unique USP & they're not really the same type of bike but you'd be really happy with either.
yeah not the same kind of bike at all, like comparing oranges with cucumbers.
Good review. I think the Rocket captures the cruiser ethos better. I've had more Ducatis than most people likely have had motorcycles. I bought the Rocket 3 R rather than the V4 Diavel. Yes, the Diavel is quicker, and better handling. Overall I found the Rocket more fun to ride. The bottomless torque is just addictive. A simple flash of the ECU for the cost of a BT OBD2 adaptor and you unlock about another 25PS at the rear wheel. That definitely closes the acceleration gap.
Thankfully Ducati has gotten better with service intervals but I've spent more on Ducati maintenance over the year than what a V4 Diavel costs new. The running costs are pretty dear on them. Insurance is another factor. I have a lot of bikes and that adds up pretty quickly. By comparison, my Rocket 3 is one of the cheapest bikes I own to insure. My last Diavel (xDiavel 1260S) costs almost 5 times what my Rocket does to insure.
The riding position is more comfortable for me and the saddle on the rocket is much better. I can spend hours on it and still be comfy. After a 30 minute test ride on the V4 Diavel my butt was already hurting. All in all the Ducati wants you to push it all the time to really enjoy it. On the Rocket it can hustle pretty well but is very content at just "cruising".
Downsides to the Rocket are significant heat off the cat. It can drink fuel like a V4 Ducati or Aprilia. Lack of stock quickshifter. I do have to make a note that the accessory quickshifter is one of the best, and smoothest, I've ever used on a bike and shame it isn't standard. Rocket isn't as nimble as the Duc but surprisingly good.
All in all both are fun but the Rocket is a lot more unique. Definitely a conversation starter everywhere I go. My Ducs are typically ignored as they are quite common. I still have a Multistrada and a Streetfighter. Almost all the Ducati's I've owned are best appreciated when riding fast. The Rocket is fun most any time for me. I never tire of having that hand of God pushing my back at any rpm when I twist the throttle. You could leave the bike in 3rd gear if you wanted and ride anywhere.
Don't you think that saying that the Ducati is quicker and better handling, but the Triumph is more fun to ride is something contradictory? Yes the Triumph looks more like a cruiser bike and the Ducati is more like a naked sport bike, but for me the most important part of a bike is the performance and handling in the road
@@anonymous_PR They are not contradictory. Think of a different way. How often am I pushing the bike to its limits in a turn or at peak acceleration? Anything at less than about 9/10ths pace and I enjoy the Rocket. The Rocket has immense torque that pushes the bike forward at a healthy rate regardless of RPM. The Duc has to be way up in the RPM range to really pull the Rocket.
The Rocket is making good power no matter what RPM. I don't care if it is a little bit eclipsed right up at redline. Do the flash (basically free with Tuneec if you have a BT adaptor) and it will easily run with the Diavel. Another thing to keep in mind, is if you are a big person, or riding double, that extra weight has less of an effect on the Rocket's acceleration. As for handling, a slightly taller rear tire really sharpens up the handling on it as well.
I am a big fan of the shaft drive and minimal maintenance it requires. Nobody talks much about it in road tests by the Triumph has better lights if you ride at night a lot. They are both fun bikes, but for 95% of my riding, I'll still take my Rocket. I keep a multistrada around for whenever I feel like going on a longer trip.
Buy what makes sense for you. If I lived in the mountains or spent most of my time there, I'd probably take the Diavel. Most everywhere else, I'll take the Rocket. One last plus for me is the insurance costs. I spend $180/yr for full coverage and high limits of liability, 500 deductible. My Diavel cost me about about $800 with the same coverage.
Man, your comments are so salient and informative! Like someone else said, during the video I was changing my mind constantly on which bike I wanted, but I am now sure I want the Rocket!
@@mikebetts9677 Glad to help. For me fastest isn't always better, unless I am racing. I have to say of the 12 bikes I currently have (yes, I am an addict), the Rocket is the one I ride the most with my Janus Halcyon in 2nd place. In the last 5 months I've added a tune and went with a different muffler. The muffler saved about 25 pounds and reduced the heat under my crotch in the summer time.
The tune and muffler added about 30 whp to it. It pulls very nicely to over 7k now and still has that immense low end torque but with an even stronger top end pull. Saving almost 30 pounds was a nice benefit and makes the bike even better handling as it feels more nimble. If I could only keep one of all my bikes, it would be the rocket. Superb all around bike. Comfy to take my wife on too.
Brilliant video, absolutely seamless between the comms and the switching of camera to the other rider throughout. Really high quality stuff. Deserve more subscribers!
Thanks buddy 👍
Epick stuff Boys !! Well done ! Now there is only one way to check the torque on a bike. 6th gear roll-on from 40mph till 70+mph
I was almost about to correct you by saying it should be a 60-100kmh roll-on then I realised you quoted miles per hour, which is pretty much the same :) !!
Roll on test, Try both of you same time, third beep of the horn. Been using this way way before comms. Superb viewing on my 65-inch 4K OLED with the high production values that we often take for granted. Well done Lucio CecchInello Racing. 🤔😉
funny is that R3 is limited to 60% of it's engine power with throttle mapping, ecu it to 100% then it can match acceleration to V4 Diavel but it may be unnecessary because these bikes are a bit in different categories. Excellent bikes both of them. And thanks for the good review! 💪🏼
Yeah I remapped mine and put a exhaust on my rocket 3 ah boy its a totally different bike.. and with the quick shifter.
@@LoCk3H Too bad that the aftermarket exhausts for the R3 all look like crap compared to the OEM pipes. FJB 🖕🇨🇳
Ducati every time thanks!
oooohhh if I had the money for BOTH. That sound from the Ducati 😍
You guys are having so much fun I’m sitting here smiling watching
Love the looks on both bikes ,
Overall looks and the sound, the Triumph wins for me , another great review, and the banta between the both of you is brilliant ,
Thanks Martin 👍
Man I miss my 2015 Diavel Carbon....Think with the new 60k valve adjustment intervall, I'll renew my vows with the Diavel in a near future. Keep up the good work, you're by far my favorite TH-camr for motorcycle content.
Cheers from Quebec, Canada
I would have thought the Rocket smashed the Duc in rolling comparisons, instead it's the opposite! Surprise. Anyway, as an italian I would go for the Triumph every time. 😆 The X Diavel, though...
Thanks for the vid!
did a testride with the V4 and loved it, it was like it was fit just for me when i got on it, when we came back my mate and i agreed we want one but it's just a bit to expensive now for us. Job well done for Ducati
So different, it's almost like trying to compare a high end Harley bagger with a Goldwing. I doubt there's much cross shopping here. Most owners of each probably had their minds made up at first glance. Great reviews.
Did our own Rocket 3R v Diavel V4 challenge today & test ride. From a rolling start (each bike in 3rd & travelling @ 60kms) both bikes were level for the first 1.5 secs before the Diavel took off and didn’t look back. After jumping off my Rocket, the first thing I noticed on the Diavel was how light the bike is as well as how you seem to sit in it rather than on it. Other observations include how easy it tips into the corners as well as how it seems to get its second wind in the higher revs. It was also surprisingly vibey compared to the Rocket. Wasn’t expecting that. Both quick shifters are excellent with the Diavel’s being a bit smoother in the change. Couldn’t agree more that the Rocket is more like a high performing Bentley in terms of its performance/appearance/finish & plushness of its ride while the Diavel is closer to an Italian sports car that just wants to go….and go and go!!! Can’t go wrong with either.
Great to hear you came to the same conclusions as we did 👍
Only thing I’d add is the lack of wind protection on the Diavel. The low Triumph tour screen makes an appreciable difference. Once on the Diavel, the wind resistance was noticeable. No doubt a small screen will come out for the Diavel that doesn’t take away from its looks. Worth considering if you’re forced to do highway kms.
The profile of the seat & tank combined with the slightly elevated bars gave me the impression that I was sitting lower in the bike. The Rocket’s seat and lower bars pushes your upper body slightly forward leaving you perched on bike. Strangely the Rocket has more wind protection with the small touring screen making a difference.
Great vid chaps both stunning bikes think the Ducati just pips it for me !!!
Rocket for me.. a-mazingly comfortable seat, shaft drive. Add a shifter/blipper, the available sequential indicators & delete the pillion seat.. just perfect
This was the best video ever for those torn between cruising and sport riding. I want to love the Rocket, but I wish it had a sport riding position and some more clearance. Damn, the Rocket is beautiful!
FFS guys… I’ve changed my mind which bike I’d prefer every 5 minutes watching you vid! 😂
Oh that was a great comparison guys. Thank you🤗
Ps. Just blast your horn 3 times to race of👍🏽
Always enjoy your videos Tom. Re measuring temperature while out I started using a couple of sensors from Sensorpush a while ago (they provided a couple to use on a winter trip to Mongolia, temps down to just under -5°C. They are really good, connect to a phone app and store temps internally for a few months as well. Also, battery life is ridiculously good. Recommended. Geoff
Wonderful video , you and Greg managed to fully describe the bikes because you notice different things. Keep up the fine work Chopsy 👍👍 One thing I've noticed, is that the Ducati GT v4 motor seems to sound better than the Desmo .....
The prices of these two will not scare serious buyers away I would buy the Ducati in a heartbeat , thanks Greg and Chops , BSA called and wants their chrome back !
The Rocket any day of the week. Its looks alone could stop a train with a performance to match
The review I wanted to see. Awesome video lads.
I’ve owned both and agreed with all you said. I’ve actually got a v2 xdiavel nera now. One of 3 in Ireland. I like the Ducati twins and I’ve a bad knee so it’s a great all round bike for me. 🤘🏻 good review guys. You two are great together. We call the rocket the buzz lightyear bike
You have owned both as in the new Rocket 3 2020-present? And the brand new Diavel v4? Because both are so much better than their predecessors.
Want both bikes.............................
Liked the video and great insights into the bikes. Cheers
Very good vid. I owned a Vmax in 85. Also the big Boss Hoss 502cid. It wasn't really that fast off the line and over 1400 US pounds. Now I have a 2024 Triumph Rocket 3 GT. For me, the Triumph is the best cruiser to date. The Hayabusa wasn't mentioned. I ride the Hayabusa but it is my neighbor's bike. Not comfortable. But fast.
As they say in some parts of the World, same same but different. The Aston Martin/Ferrari comparison of the bike World.
Normally I'd chose Ferrari, but that triple is amazing
Great video gents, really enjoyed it. It's the Ducati for me. Keep up the great vids. Your riding friend from across the Pond.
Thanks buddy 👍
Sonething really regal about that triumph. Love that chrome tank. Like a norton.
Very entertaining and you cut between yourself and Gregory chatting in shot really well!
Thanks Simon 👍
Hi gents. Great video, best comparisons on TH-cam! Don't know about you chaps but I see myself straddling a big British Shaft! The Italian v4 is gorgeous too,... what a beautiful dilemma to have if 23k is burning a hole in your pocket? C ❤
I feel like old Greg is a perfect addition to the channel and I really enjoy these comparison videos you have started. I feel like this particular comparison is a little strange though since the V4 Diavel is not really a cruiser. "It does not feel like a heavy cruiser" No because it is not a heavy cruiser, it is a naked bike with a wide back tire that is it! So everything like drag races and stuff with a Sportbike like the Diavel compared to a cruiser like the Rocket 3 is pointless. Of course you guys are going to love the Ducati as you guys prefer sportbikes to cruisers :D
Since Greg liked the Ducati so much, you should instead compare it to the Yamaha MT-10 he liked and see what he thinks about it then, would be much more interesting ;P
The X Diavel would have been a better fit in this comparison since it is as close to a cruiser you can get with Ducati.
And what is it with Chopsy and "getting a cup of something warm" ? Dont you guys have summer in the UK ? You should say grab something cold it is fu*kn 25 degrees outside, It is beer or shandy season Chopsy!
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PS. Can you sometime in the future please change that intro song you have had for ages Chopsy ? It sounds like the soundtrack to a german hardcore p0rnomovie 😅
I would be interesting to see a top gear pull comparison
Just put a deposit on a red diavel v4, its gonna be a great summer. Great comparison video of two superb bikes.
Another great review Chopsy and Greg .👍 Not sure which one i would choose between the two either !!!? Both look great but being a triumph fan ! The rocket for me .👍👍😀 pity the roads where very damp there built for the sun those two . But chopsy i would keep the H2 over both .😁
The Rocket for me, specifically the GT.
Hmm, a bit of a Cop-out at the end, gents lol. For me, the Diavel. I think the Rocket captures the 'look' of motorcycling spirit, but the Diavel nails the 'spirit' itself. It is more complete as a motorcycle when it comes to what I consider the most important factor: riding. Personally, I could care less of people admiring me tootling through a town. It is the magical thrill of a headlong rush along twisty roads on a nice summer day, knowing my machine can safely deliver and perform and get me home, again, in comfort.
As always, thanks so much for your efforts. I’ve been wondering about the Rocket/Diavel comparison and I’m thinking it isn’t quite apples to apples. The Diavel is a freaking Ducati! I mean, a Ducati is going to be a Ducati, right? I would think a far more objective comparison would be to Harleys and Indians. In that respect, the Rocket would surely shine.
Another good duel review.Excellent.Thks guys.
Lovely review as usual I think chops leaning towards the diavel more same here as well , however m still convinced that vmax gen2 still the best performance cruiser build tell date however its discontinued.
Would love to do review on one of these I believe it's not on the channel vedio archives.
Thanks mate !
Just a little tip Chopsy, don't put E10 in these bikes. Especially from that Morrisons in Horndean. It's renowned for having bad quality petrol.
The extra ethanol content makes it pretty bad for steel tanks, as it's considerably more corrosive than E5.
Shell V power every time and you can't go wrong 👍
I have a GT and installed the quick shifter, which is a must, as it provides for smoother faster changes, and generally smooths everything out.
The quick shifter is for sure a must! It made me love the Rocket even more!
So what to do with the plate? Doesn't look like many options...strap it to your back? Behind the backrest?
Fantastic video guys, thanks for posting. Not really any surprises in the end - both amazing machines, but it does ultimately boil down to personal preference and what you want the bike for.
Ducati V4 is pinnacle of biking technology. I also love look of Ducati V4.
Lads - cracking review. Ducati for me.
Just a small point- hopefully not picked up by roads policing…. 56 in a 30!! Careful how you go with the editing!!
Good comparison video again Lamb Chop
Thanks Lyn 👍
Would like to see the rounded rocket lights on a street triple / speed triple. The bikes on test are stunning with Rocket edging it I think on wow factor
Excellent comparison, gents. I'm with you, I think the Triumph has the Ducati beat in the looks department, but I'm not ready to let go of my inner hooligan quite yet, and I can't afford to buy both, so I think it would have to be the Ducati.
The inner hooligan never dies. Save your pounds for a new catagory to come out of Grand Rapids Michigan USA.
我买了ROCKET3，我也尝试过杜卡迪，但火箭3更适合我，我喜欢她独特的设计，还有那澎湃的低扭动力，相对舒适的坐姿，体验非常棒！
Just taking the Rocket off the kick stand and standing it up on the show room floor, I thought there Is no way can deal with this weight. if you are stopped and the bike leans a little in one direction or the other. there is no way I could stop it from falling over. of course if I owned it I would get used to the weight and how to deal with it. and hopefully never have it fall over on me. but just a couple of weeks ago my DUCATI Supersport was parked between two bikes. and I needed to back it out of the spot. and for some reason I didn't want to sit on it. so I tried walking it backwards. and my body was in the wrong position and the bike leaned just an inch over and I almost lost it because I had no leverage. so in the same situation that Rocket would've been on the ground. but for me I would love to own that Ducati V4 Diavel. what a beautiful machine. I never thought I would be a Ducati guy, but since getting my 2017 939 Supersport with 2159 km on it just a month and a half ago. I am a total Ducati fan because of how much I love my new bike. but I also love Triumph. but have never owned one. personally I don't really look at the Ducati Diavel and think Cruiser. I think there are better cruiser bikes to compare to the Rocket.
The Diavel is a “mega” naked. It’s heavier than a hyper naked but the same amount of power of a hyper naked. The Rocket 3 is a genuine power cruiser. Makes almost as much torque as horsepower. 149ci is a huge motor and the fact it can mildly rev is awesome.
Blah blah blah. It gets destroyed by the Duc in every way.
@@mattyoz0 it doesn’t tho. The Ducati has a marginally bigger engine than the Speed Triple 1200 RS with the same amount of power in the same places. It’s not even a similar comparison little boy.
@@RadDadisRad Power to weight and a way better chassis. Little boy.
@@mattyoz0 yeah the Duc just doesn’t have it where it counts. It’s a fatass super naked. The R3R has double the engine capacity with 1 less cylinder. It has more power 1000 rpm above idle than the Ducati does for the first half of its rpm range. The Ducati is a power loser not a power cruiser.
@@RadDadisRad I don't know why you're talking about the Speed Triple and in case you don't know the Diavel's engine is a detuned superbike engine, they've made it with a lot more power than any Triumph has ever made.
The point was the Diavel beats the Rocket in every single measurable performance metric, and that's just a fact. It's faster off the line, faster in a drag race, faster in the corners, brakes better, handles better...it's just plain better. In fact even the old XDiavel with the twin engine still beats the Rocket in every way, and that's a feet forward cruiser too.
Turns out putting a 350lbs engine in a bike might make for some interesting headlines but doesn't actually work out that well for performance or handling.
It's the Ducati for me - every day of the week!
Amazing bike and beautiful design.
Great review of a couple of cool bikes.
You must have some amazing time management skills if your holding down a full time job whilst producing quality content
When I’m kicking 70yo and too lazy to ride I’ll be choosing between one of these two. Thanks for the vid!
Personalmente le comprerei tutte e due,in modo da avere un trio con la mia Yamaha vmax 1700🎉!
Saluti dall'Italia❤
You didn't want to say the Ducati feels like a teenager and the Triumph feels like a retired mans bike
I'm 51 and I own the Ducati X Diavel S...I'm not retired yet!
I like the styling of the triumph mirrors the way it looks . The ducati looks more street sport bike than cruiser , bimbo brakes seem to be the braking standard on many high end vehicles, not sure where this country that these bikes being critique of it's likes & dislikes i feel you two didn't get the full benefits of the true potential due the roads you are riding im sure speed limits restricted the ride, but if you was able to ride on open road with some curves would tell a better story, i wish the new Suzuki Hayabusa was in this test as that bike is a sport touring bike but a little lighter , i own a 2017 Hayabusa i didn't know there was a new Hayabusa out as i have never heard of the rocket r by triumph if i was buying a cruiser bike for me I choose the triumph rocket r black, this style of bike reminds me of years ago yamaha vmax a sport cruiser , again i have never been a fan of ducati bikes not because they are bad bikes just wasn't my style of bike , all my past bikes been Suzuki street bikes but by accident i discovered triumph rocket r cruiser im sold that me my choice, it looks all business 😀 my opinion only
Interesting comparison, they are different. I am biased as I bought the Rocket and sport mode is something else. I guess they were on Road mode - for a roll-on I'd slip into Sport and hang on. A great cruiser with adrenalin mode.
Would've loved to have seen the VMax in this video. Thanks Jonzi and "gregorio" 😂most entertaining. When you coming to Aus for a proper hoon review?! I can host you
Rocket3R all day long!
I am literally making my own decision about these two bikes as I'm there now in life. I think the Triumph just takes it for me, the Rolls Royce analogy is spot on, I love the big, imposing presence of it.
Triumph for me. Then I'm a Tiger 900 GT rider. But the triumph looks epic.
Rocket for me ! Ducati sounds like a superbike which I think misses the point of a big cruiser ! Triumph finishes the bikes so well aswell ❤
Excellent video - loved it!! 👍🏍🏍👍
In few words: Ducati is SPORT-cruiser, Triumph is sport-CRUISER.
Differences in video looks big, but in reality, it is like comparison between the best formulas F1. But other mainstream cars are a few laps behind.
I prefer cruising, maybe my figure is larger, therefore GT is much more comfortable for it. And the finishing and details of Triumph are several generations ahead of Ducati. During summer I try to do test ride on DV4, I am curious. But surely I will not change it for my R3GT.
Currently own a 1260. Had a speedmaster and a storm. Something for me about triumphs that doesn't gel. I can't describe it, but based on your handling assessments of both bikes and my enjoyment of the 1260, I'd put my money on the V4.
Triumph for me please + windscreen
Great review fellas.
What’s crazy is Carpenter Racing has multiple stages of modifications for the Rocket 3. So 200+hp for stage 1 and close to 230hp for the stage 2 and 260 for stage 3.
The rocket 3 🤤
I was waiting for this comparison. I was down to theses two bikes for me and the DV4 was the bike for me. The power,the handling,the technology and 100lbs lighter. All I could ask for. Now all I need is an affordable exhaust.
Yup absolutely! Keep an eye on Vandemon exhausts 👍
I was looking at the Triumphs at the dealership last week, and came away very impressed by the high quality of the finish. But, as a former owner of 2 Monsters and Hypermotard , it's the Streetfighter for me next...
Cant wait to try out the diavel v4. I own the multi pikes peak with the gt engine. Also have a 21 r3gt (bren tuned with carpenter pipe). Also have a 14 r3r carpenter 240 whp set up. The new rocket is light years from first gen rocket. Fitted with optional quick shift and un restricted it is a differnt bike. Like complete different bike, Full hp to 8k rpms. p.s. triumph is pretty stable even up to 170mph. Also not a brand loyalist becouse i loved my 15 diavel ti and 16 xds.
I've always loved the Diavel but I've loved 3 cylinder motorcycles longer. Put a hilariously large one into a big cruiser bike and you've got me figured out. That said you've got Bri'ish reliability and an engine which really doesn't seem to have any character. Sure it makes gobs of torque at any RPM but it doesn't seem to have any soul. My love for triples comes from my Yamaha XS850 because that engine makes every ride an event, it makes riding special.
I bought a rocket 3 in 2004 anorange tribal paint scheme , which I still own , at the time rumours in the motorcycle mags ( remember them ) that triumph were making something big. , originally they made it a 1600, but while testing the rides said it was great but needed more power , they increased it to 2300 and the testing at bruntingthorpe the test riders wrote 3 bikes off and during testing , and reported back ,that’s it perfect , when I first got it , every time I parked it their would be a queue of bikers waiting , all asking the same questions , mister is it heavy , does it handle and is it fast , the answer to all those questions is yes , I remember doing 155mph down a hill and it felt like 225 , also I have a Ducati diavel , gen 1 and a 1260 diavel , out of the ducatis the gen 1 was a beast, the jury’s out on the v4 , until I ride one , and I’m not sure about the cylinders running v2 and turning into a v4 at 4000 rpm ,
Thumbs up but haven't watched yet 😂. Can't wait to watch after work lads.
Loved this review, thanks guys!
Great videos guys!
Two fantastic bikes. I want both.
Great review guys.. I reckon you'd get a great deal from Ducati on 2 Diavels ;) I each.. trick them up with different parts to compare, be great content
New to motorcycles but the Triumph is beautiful