I am a Rocketeer, it’s by far and away the best motorcycle I have ever had in over 40 years of riding. It handles so easily you could almost forget the weight.
@@seigliere1 I bet you don't. I test rode the old Rocket lll Roadster over ten years ago. I expected to struggle to lift it off the side stand. It couldn't have been easier. The weight was so low, the bike was a joy to ride. Mini-roundabouts [just north of London] were a slow process, but other than that, it was a fabulous ride. The best bike I have ever been on. When I got back on my Buell Ulysses after it felt like a toy.
@@1990-t1j I did embarrass myself on day 1. Stop sign adverse camber and….dropped it! At 65 I just don’t have as much strength in my legs as I used to! Originally from North London too! Hampstead and Kentish Town when it was still very working class. In France and Spain now where my Rocket is.
Lots of power lost with shaft driven drivetrain but the savings in maintenance and danger of a snapped chain is worth it imo. I love my rocket 3r BUT i really want the diavel v4 too hopefully I can have both one day 😁
I recently traded my 2021 Rocket GT for a 2021 Diavel 1260s. I love them both for different reasons. The Diavel has the Arrow race exhaust and sounds insane, I love it. The Rocket will always have a place in my heart and the torque is stupidly immense, but I have always wanted a Diavel and I enjoy it very much. No doubt I will change again in a summer or two. Keep safe everyone.
They are both incredible machines for sure. I settled on the R3GT (mid control mod) and can confirm it's the best bike I've owned during the past 30 years, its also a classy retro and timeless design - essentially art. Drive shaft and the driver tech (rider modes, TC, cornering ABS, cruise C and heated grips) makes it a joy to drive. My 3rd Triumph and they just keep getting better.
Just so I'm understanding, you bought a Rocket 3 GT and then put on the mid-controls from the R? That's pretty sick, I'm torn myself between the GT and R but really like how far back the GT's handlebars are.
@@CampHikeSki 100% I fitted R mids on my GT, its the best mod for this bike and improves handling. GT is better suited to riders over 6foot looking for cruisers feel, hence the forwards controls. That said even If I was over 6 foot I would still opt for mids on the GT, its such a comfortable riding position with more pillion friendly option. blessed weekend
I’ve had everything myself R1, Harley 103s, cb1000r, ktm super Duke, etc but nothing really rides like this rocket. You even get decent acceleration plodding along in 6th gear at 1500rpm. Drop 2 gears and hold on. That said the ktm super Duke r was the bike that made me appreciate torque I had ridden nothing like it before. Also rocket 3r handles amazing in turns never seen something so big/heavy take turns so easily especially with a 240 tire!! 😮
being a little older I said the very same thing when I road a Kawasaki (used 1975) Mark III in 1978. My brother was with me when I test road it and ask me if I was going to buy it. I told him No!, I would be dead within the week! Still one of the fastest bikes I ever road and way too squirrelly.
I started with triumph and I’m on a Ducati mostly now. I love both and I currently own both brands (Pani V4S and 675R). I rode a rocket once and you’re absolutely right. It’s a monster of a bike.
Excellent review! First to me the shaft driven Rocket is a benefit due to the low maintenance and not dealing with the chain. However, the wheelbase on the Rocket is longer and the rake, which maybe an issue that effects the feel and nimblenees of the bike. Can you comment on these issues particularly the wheelbase difference? How did they feel in those areas. What about cost of maintenance? And in person which bike looks better to you? Thanks
The diavel is the best bike But the Rocket 3 is just something else Either way you didn't choose anything wrong if you're lucky to have any of those. Those are literally my top 2 dream bikes, maybe one day I will be lucky enough 😅
I own a 2021 R3 GT and love it. The absolute best of the 28 bikes I've owned in 63 years of riding! I just sold my 2019 X Diavel and have seller's remorse! I'm very interested in the new Duc V4 but, truth is, I hate chains and I have no ideas why Ducati did not use a beautiful belt on the new V4. Zero maintenance, no crap spinning off and losing 3 HP at 9000 rpm does not impress me!!
Bought a Diavel new on a 2011 plate . From new front disc's warped, back brake non existent , kept blowing main fuse and with just under 10000 on clock front pot big end bearing gave up. So within the first month to 2 yrs of owning the bike i had to replace , front disk's , engine loom , two thermo's , god knows how many ambient air pressure sensors, abs pump, starter relay, ecu and a lot more including a new engine. Ducati's response to my complaint that my bike was not fit for purpose was " How did you get on with your dealership ". If anyone else has a Diavel with back brake issue by the way try changing the brake fluid i think i used 5.1. So i had a love hate relationship with the Diavel , still think Ducati make stunning looking bikes and hope i just bought an expensive Friday afternoon job.For my retirement have bought a Chrome Rocket 3R , so far awesome.
I haven’t had a chance to ride the new Diavel V4 yet. But I own the new Rocket 3 R and it’s a lot of fun. I have people stop and ask about it everywhere I go (it’s almost annoying) lol
I am thinking of buying either one of these. I am 68yrs old so will consider factors you covered. I really like your tests which are very professional and informative.
Hehe.... I picked a '21 Rocket GT after owning a Kawasaki ZX14 Ninja. I like the Diavel, but at around 6'2" and now in my 50's, the Rocket has been fantastic. I've never felt a bike pull like the Rocket does. Smiles for miles 🐻
I gotta say I’d give the win to the Diavel. It’s lighter, faster, and can crush it in the twisties. Love the esthetics of the Rocket 3R Chrome Edition, but I think you’ll have more fun even if you’re a tad less comfortable on the Diavel. Cheers!
Thing is you don't really get a cruiser for those reasons. All a cruiser needs to do in that department is be easy to handle, anything else is comfort, style, torque.
I know I would be very happy with the Diavel and that its probably the more practical bike to live with. But I can´t ignore the pull of that monster engine in the Rocket and the fact that it fit me like a glove and was probably the most comfortable motorbike I ever sat on
i have a 2020 Triumph Rocket 3 GT and man does it get attention from peoples each ride i take with it everytime someone come to me to talk or take picture of it its amazing it like owning a Ferrari or a Lamborgini ONE word to describe it TORQUE.
I've owned the newer rocket 3 and only a 30 minute test ride on the Diavel v4 with the akrapovic exhaust. All I gotta say is when I finished my test ride on the Diavel I bought it instantly. The handling hands down beats the rocket. It's almost as nimble as my streetfighter. It's definitely a more fun bike than the rocket. Don't get me wrong. The rocket was a beast. Comfortable, torquey etc. But the Diavel just put me in that giddy mood. I love them both but I'll have to hand over the title to the Diavel
I'll always rank the Diavel high in all regards. It's something very easy to work with, where in the Rocket make take the crown for massive cc figure and looks but its more harder bike to work with. Think of moving the Rocket backwards in some area with less turning ground that's going to be a nightmare.
Enjoying the ride with my father’s Rocket 3 GT but I also would like to get my hands on a diavel v4 just because I think that cornering ability is much better since it’s lighter. Overall great review for both bikes!
Diavel definitely Nothing against the Rocket, I love that too Just the Diavel has this Italian design to it that makes it slim even tho it’s not exactly slim. Idk quite how to describe it it’s just magnificent
Forgot noisy chain drive of Diavel vs shaft drive of the Rocket. And there's not a single passenger in the world that wouldn't opt for the comfort of the Rocket. Another tip regarding the engines: the Rocket 3's engine is SEVERELY restrained from the factory. It has reduced fuel at the higher RPMs and the revving is cut way prematurely. As you can easily find it can rev for 1500 more and given the proper fuelling it can be a 200 hp bike...with no other modifications done.
If I were going to get one of these, it'd be a second bike next to my Tuono. I don't need another fun bike to carve canyons. That's what my Tuono is for. I would, however, love a Rocket to crush highway miles. If I could only have 1 bike, it wouldn't be either of these. But it would be the Triumph for me as a second bike.
I've had a Speed Triple RS for the past two years but now moving over to the Diavel. Picking mine up this Saturday and can't wait!!!!! Like the Rocket but just think it looks too cumbersome, the Ducati on the otherhand is just pure Italian majic but now with a dash of German reliability!! (being owned by Audi/VW)
Is it price differential or the coolness the reason you see many more Rocket 3s on the road? Tons of accessories and configurations available for the Rocket 3. The spec page indicates Ducati and suppose if you are a rider that likes to run the roads at a quick pace. However, if you only occasional hustle down the road the Rocket 3 would be a much better choice.
Great video. At last, Ducati are using normal valves. In fact, better than normal, with 60,000 km intervals. That's a big deal and a huge step in the right direction.
Aussie Rocketeer on a 22 GT, and love it. I had an 07 Classic which felt like a tractor (don't get me wrong, I loved it) and the GT is just smooth, sleek, hammers the road into submission and handles far better than it has any right to.
gearing weight … diavel spin biger rpm on the same gear + is lighter thats why it can go close roll-on at the same gear from low to mid rpm cos at biger it leave rocket in the dust 👌🏻 if you setup regulation in such way 👉🏻 the same velocity the same rpm dosent matter what gear is required for make the same rpm in both at the same velocity and from idlle up to rpm limiter so 6,5-7 k rpm rocket beat diavel at same gear it be close to certain rpm depend on precise diffrenc in gearing weoght power level at specified rpm must be precise calulcated + drive train losesss roll and drag , roll on from optimal rpm like in race in both and diavel smoked rocket diavel start from 9 k rpm rocket from 5 k rpm so both from like 80-90% rpm before peak power and rocket dont have chance cos both generate similar power but diavel is much lighter end of stpry .
Have a 2022 R3gt, 7k on it , has been flawless, also a 2019 Speedmaster with over 20K on it had a couple issues but were covered by the factory, looking at at K1600B and or XDiavel
I've put 50,000+ miles on my 2022 Rocket 3 R, including a 7,000-mile ride from the southeast US to the Canadian Rockies. I love the bike. I would not trade it for a V4, but I am saving my pennies to purchase a V4. Each bike has its advantages. It seems the only good answer is to own both. If I had to pick one, the Rocket wins if for no other reason than it has a shaft drive. I hate chain maintenance.
I traded my large Harley Davidson towards a Diavel V4. Moving that beast around the garage was getting painful and I really was looking to shed weight for my mostly local rides. That said, I hope to be able to add a Rocket to my garage at some point. IMHO, weight considerations aside, I don't know that there's a wrong answer. Ride safe!
Just bought a 2025 rocket 3gt. The bike with its new black and blue color scheme is sick! Will sit nicely next to my 2017 harley fat boy s. I started with sport bikes and enjoyed them for years until i got old. Much prefer comfort and torque over top end speed now. However, id love to add a diavel 1260s or xdiavel to my collection, those were the best looking gen for the diavel in my opinion. The V4 diavel feels cheap compared to the older gen and doesn't look as sexy.
Obviously voids the warranty but simply tuning the ecu unlocks more horsepower than than I've ever seen from simply reflashing. It's shocking how much triumph has restricted this bike from the factory
I test drove both of these models. In conclusion, if you like riding with the strength of your inner thighs, choose the Rocket 3R, and if you like riding lightly with your hips, choose the Ducati. Ducati is good because the foot placement, seat comfort, and dashboard design are pretty. Rocket 3's engine power is acceptable, but the seat is a bit hard, the place to place your feet is a bit awkward, and I don't like the stupid instrument panel. Also, because the oil tank is huge, it feels a lot of pressure, and the seating position is uncomfortable, making long-distance travel impossible.
For my money the Rocket is the best all around street bike out there. I can play with the sport bikes (i have passed more of them than have passed me) and do long tours with the baggers (just finished a 3100 mile 8 day ride, wouldn’t want to do that on the Diavel). Plus that torque provides never ending grins, lol.
Interesting. I just watched Lamb Chops comparison and they loved the Diavel. I doubt I'll ever be able to afford either of these bikes,,,,,you've got a dream job my friend
Well with the money saved on the Rocket One can get an aftermarket exhaust and ECU flash and then the R3 gets closer to 175+bhp on the back wheel. And even more torque! But as an exacting Sunday blast machine Ducati probably still will get my vote because of the lower weight and better agility. So Rocket is a better cruiser but Ducati is a better naked motorcycle. I would be happy with any of the two
Both look like great bikes im coming from a supersport honda RR love my speed and handling but as time goes on im beginning to think otherwise looking for a sporty cruiser. Was thinking the Rebel 1100 until a friend showed me the Rocket 3R never knew it existed an i must say its absolutely stunning actually goin to look at one this weekened. Ive gotta see it in person it just looks like my type of bike bold makes a statement and itll be easy to find it in a crouded bike event 😂 unlike my honda RR until i painted the wheels hyper orange. Great video.. keep the rubber side down. Safe riding guys and girls!
I feel that the Rocket is more true to the cruiser ethos. Being closer to a large naked bike, the Diavel is something I'd consider once I'm too fat for a Streetfighter 😂
Traded a 2018 Fat Boy for my 2017 R3R and haven't looked back. Love the comfort, power, and looks of the older Rockets (like mine). However, if I could afford it, I'd probably have one of the new ones!
I just ordered a new 2025 rocket 3gt. I also own a 2017 harley fat boy s with a stage 4, 117ci kit and other engine mods. Love my harley but i wanted to add another bike to my collection that is more refined and a little better with handling compared to my super low fat boy that scrapes floor boards at the slightest turn lol. I think the rocket 3gt will be that extra something I'm craving while still giving me the comfortable cruiser feel.
Im a Rocek owner and i love the bike it does everything i want and more. Ive riden the Diavel V twin and the V4 yes there ok not my cup of tea would never buy one over the Rocket. Ive toured on mine Several times to France Germany and Austria and going again to Autria this year. My GT is perfect for long tours with all the gear on and my wife cant beat it. As for the Diavel after riding it for some time i wouldnt want to tour on it loaded and with a passinger. My Rocket is the better by far and on runs good on fuel i get about 50mls to the gallon. After riding for over 50 years had hundreds of bikes even Ducatis Goldwings big Yamahas loads of Triumphs, the Rocket is the best ive had love touring on it and at 73 i will go on till im unable to. Just to say my Rocket is the one Moto Bob did his first ride on a Rocket from the London Triumph shop......
Rocket III for me. It just stops me dead every time I see it. The Diavel is beautiful to look at and I am sure it’s fun to throw around, but at my age I am less interested in that and more interested in the sheer presence and comfort of the Rocket III. Of course we could all have one of each! 😂
A bit of let down in terms of diavel's looks if im honest, the older one looked sleeker amd meaner.. the new model looks kinda iffy, compared to rocket 3 design, it's no contest.. And that v4 engine, i feel like it would be a semi direct competitor to the streetfighter.. honestly the old v twin diavel had was it's own class.. too bad they teplaced it
I live in an area with very steep hills, some questionable road quality here and there (Seattle). If im cruising it cant be on something that weighs as much as a car if I get stuck. And if im sport riding I want something lightweight and flickable that doesnt require massive braking power to bring down from speed in a sketchy situation. Neither for me, but they are nice on a poster.
Great points Rob, tbh I loved owning my Rocket 3R and to me it's just more special. However having owned one for 18mo, 9000 miles and since sold then now I do covet the Diavel, for a sportier ride, and I loved the Diavel when it first come out, the weight difference of the v5 version is a big reason and the longer service intervals. Also fancy a Gen2 Vmax, or a ZH2 if I can ignore the looks. I also love my OG 1985 Vmax, the original bad daddy.
I picked a new Triumph Rocket 3 R. I’ve had it for Two months and it’s just a great bike. It’s really the smooth very highly cultured 007-James Bond of bikes. No question about it whatsoever. When you cruise on the bike, you really do hear the cool slinky theme music to 007. It rides like a dream does the twisties very well. Funnily, I’ve met quite a few bikers that are intimidated by the rocket 3. More interestingly though is a lot of women like owning the bike and their intimidation of the bike for some reason doesn’t exist. I kind of think it’s the testosterones the rocket extrudes and men often are intimidated by something that’s more manly than they feel they are. Who knows? But that’s a real phenomenon I’ve seen many times.
A rider who likes lighter weight bikes, more an enthusiast, looks at handling not just raw speed, chooses the Ducati. Those who like power and torque above all regardless of heavy weight, choose the Triumph. Rocket owners say how well it handles but thats relative. Sure it handles well for a 700 pound bike, but not compared to lighter bikes. Its physics.
Both don’t compare to the Ducati Xdiavel which hits peak power lower and achieves circa 50mpg which neither of these bikes achieve. From a value for money and low end peak power delivery you cannot beat the xdiavel even coupled with the termi system. The new Diavel has a smoother engine no doubt but the bars are narrow and makes you feel like a 🦖 and is too plastic happy. I love the rocket but which it was lighter and more efficient with space in the cockpit for a garmin sat nav as opposed to the close cut fly screen. Nice review but I think the X is still a player and is overlooked imo.
I'm trying to decide between these two right now... the Rocket III has the edge for me I think because I really want an aftermarket exhaust and $7500 for the stupid Akra on the Ducati is a war crime.
Having just changed my Tiger for a Multistrada V4S, I would definitely go for the Diavel, the engine is epic and build quality is far better on the Ducati than the Triumph. The weight of the Rocket would be a big concern to me. Ducati win for me.
Owned an R3 and that bike was so good in a straight line, but Nothing like the Duc V4 NOTHING~!!!!! My 1158 will Eat that 2300 for Breakfast, lunch and Dinner, and still have room for dessert
If people buying one of these need the 1k quid difference in price, they shouldn't be buying one of these to begin with. So, I really don't think price is a win or lose choice. Styling is 100% subjective. I like the Ducati styling way better than the Triumph's. But that is just me. What is missing is build quality. I'd almost bet Triumph would win this category, but Ducati has made great strides to improve in their quality too. Also IMHO, the engine should have gone to the Diavel. The Rocket's engine is almost gaudy and over exaggerated, like a caricature. It's a small penis compensator if I've ever saw one. It's overkill to say the least. Some people may want that. I certainly don't, thus the Diavel would be my choice between the two for sure, just on that criteria alone. And as others have mentioned, on a motorcycle you want to have fun. And the Diavel will offer much more fun than the big lug Rocket. And fun factor to me is a much more weighted category than any other.
This type of bike isn’t about its actual dynamics they are caricatures of motorcycles that have sacrificed dynamics for perceived style. For me the Triumph has the look and the presence and whilst the Ducati is obviously a far superior motorcycle it is still hampered compared to every other model in the range and yet doesn’t have the Triumph look. So would never buy either and feel embarrassed to be seen on them but if offered to give me one I’d have the Triumph please.
I am a Rocketeer, it’s by far and away the best motorcycle I have ever had in over 40 years of riding.
It handles so easily you could almost forget the weight.
Which model, Marc?
@@1990-t1j Thé GT. Everything about it is just great. I added the quick shifter too.
As long as it’s moving you don’t feel the weight .
@@seigliere1 I bet you don't. I test rode the old Rocket lll Roadster over ten years ago. I expected to struggle to lift it off the side stand. It couldn't have been easier. The weight was so low, the bike was a joy to ride. Mini-roundabouts [just north of London] were a slow process, but other than that, it was a fabulous ride. The best bike I have ever been on. When I got back on my Buell Ulysses after it felt like a toy.
@@1990-t1j I did embarrass myself on day 1. Stop sign adverse camber and….dropped it!
At 65 I just don’t have as much strength in my legs as I used to!
Originally from North London too! Hampstead and Kentish Town when it was still very working class.
In France and Spain now where my Rocket is.
@@seigliere1 well said, love the GT
For me, the shaft drive on the Triumph is a major influencer
Xdiavel has a belt. Pretty cool too 👍🏻
@@theonlyredspecial 🏍👍
Lots of power lost with shaft driven drivetrain but the savings in maintenance and danger of a snapped chain is worth it imo.
I love my rocket 3r BUT i really want the diavel v4 too hopefully I can have both one day 😁
Belts!!! YUK!! @@theonlyredspecial
Had a 2012 Busa before and I just hated to maintain that chain!!!
I recently traded my 2021 Rocket GT for a 2021 Diavel 1260s. I love them both for different reasons.
The Diavel has the Arrow race exhaust and sounds insane, I love it. The Rocket will always have a place in my heart and the torque is stupidly immense, but I have always wanted a Diavel and I enjoy it very much. No doubt I will change again in a summer or two. Keep safe everyone.
They are both incredible machines for sure. I settled on the R3GT (mid control mod) and can confirm it's the best bike I've owned during the past 30 years, its also a classy retro and timeless design - essentially art. Drive shaft and the driver tech (rider modes, TC, cornering ABS, cruise C and heated grips) makes it a joy to drive. My 3rd Triumph and they just keep getting better.
Don't forget about the quick shifter too!
Just so I'm understanding, you bought a Rocket 3 GT and then put on the mid-controls from the R? That's pretty sick, I'm torn myself between the GT and R but really like how far back the GT's handlebars are.
@@CampHikeSki 100% I fitted R mids on my GT, its the best mod for this bike and improves handling. GT is better suited to riders over 6foot looking for cruisers feel, hence the forwards controls. That said even If I was over 6 foot I would still opt for mids on the GT, its such a comfortable riding position with more pillion friendly option. blessed weekend
I’ve had everything myself R1, Harley 103s, cb1000r, ktm super Duke, etc but nothing really rides like this rocket. You even get decent acceleration plodding along in 6th gear at 1500rpm. Drop 2 gears and hold on.
That said the ktm super Duke r was the bike that made me appreciate torque I had ridden nothing like it before.
Also rocket 3r handles amazing in turns never seen something so big/heavy take turns so easily especially with a 240 tire!! 😮
As a Triumph rider I feel obliged to answer the Rocket, swung a leg over one in the dealership it just felt like it wanted to kill me
@Shalin rocket ship!
So you bought it, right?
being a little older I said the very same thing when I road a Kawasaki (used 1975) Mark III in 1978. My brother was with me when I test road it and ask me if I was going to buy it. I told him No!, I would be dead within the week! Still one of the fastest bikes I ever road and way too squirrelly.
I started with triumph and I’m on a Ducati mostly now. I love both and I currently own both brands (Pani V4S and 675R). I rode a rocket once and you’re absolutely right. It’s a monster of a bike.
Excellent review! First to me the shaft driven Rocket is a benefit due to the low maintenance and not dealing with the chain. However, the wheelbase on the Rocket is longer and the rake, which maybe an issue that effects the feel and nimblenees of the bike. Can you comment on these issues particularly the wheelbase difference? How did they feel in those areas. What about cost of maintenance? And in person which bike looks better to you? Thanks
The diavel is the best bike
But the Rocket 3 is just something else
Either way you didn't choose anything wrong if you're lucky to have any of those.
Those are literally my top 2 dream bikes, maybe one day I will be lucky enough 😅
Good luck
Rocket anyday, just for the way it looks, triple headers, dual headlamp, wide front tyre 🥰🥰🥰. High power/torque at low RPMs 🥰🥰🥰.
I own a 2021 R3 GT and love it. The absolute best of the 28 bikes I've owned in 63 years of riding!
I just sold my 2019 X Diavel and have seller's remorse! I'm very interested in the new Duc V4 but, truth is, I hate chains and I have no ideas why Ducati did not use a beautiful belt on the new V4.
Zero maintenance, no crap spinning off and losing 3 HP at 9000 rpm does not impress me!!
Bought a Diavel new on a 2011 plate . From new front disc's warped, back brake non existent , kept blowing main fuse and with just under 10000 on clock front pot big end bearing gave up. So within the first month to 2 yrs of owning the bike i had to replace , front disk's , engine loom , two thermo's , god knows how many ambient air pressure sensors, abs pump, starter relay, ecu and a lot more including a new engine. Ducati's response to my complaint that my bike was not fit for purpose was " How did you get on with your dealership ". If anyone else has a Diavel with back brake issue by the way try changing the brake fluid i think i used 5.1. So i had a love hate relationship with the Diavel , still think Ducati make stunning looking bikes and hope i just bought an expensive Friday afternoon job.For my retirement have bought a Chrome Rocket 3R , so far awesome.
The Diavel is literally the perfect bike for me in terms of what it delivers (except the price)
Same here!!
I haven’t had a chance to ride the new Diavel V4 yet. But I own the new Rocket 3 R and it’s a lot of fun. I have people stop and ask about it everywhere I go (it’s almost annoying) lol
I am thinking of buying either one of these. I am 68yrs old so will consider factors you covered. I really like your tests which are very professional and informative.
Hehe.... I picked a '21 Rocket GT after owning a Kawasaki ZX14 Ninja. I like the Diavel, but at around 6'2" and now in my 50's, the Rocket has been fantastic. I've never felt a bike pull like the Rocket does. Smiles for miles 🐻
I gotta say I’d give the win to the Diavel. It’s lighter, faster, and can crush it in the twisties. Love the esthetics of the Rocket 3R Chrome Edition, but I think you’ll have more fun even if you’re a tad less comfortable on the Diavel. Cheers!
Sounds like the Diavel's the wrong bike on your list to start with - a streetfighter or even a 17in wheeled MS would do those jobs much better.
Thing is you don't really get a cruiser for those reasons. All a cruiser needs to do in that department is be easy to handle, anything else is comfort, style, torque.
I’m coming from an S1000RR to one of these.
Speed isn’t everything. I’m leaning towards the Rocket simply for the experience.
I know I would be very happy with the Diavel and that its probably the more practical bike to live with. But I can´t ignore the pull of that monster engine in the Rocket and the fact that it fit me like a glove and was probably the most comfortable motorbike I ever sat on
Rocket anyday..
My Rocket gets a lot of compliments often called “Batman’s bike” 😂
If I was only going to have one bike I'd say the Diavel but as part of a stable I'd say Rocket III, just so unique.
As part of a stable.... Why not both?😅🤷🏾♂️
I am from Italy and I must say that Rocket 3 is a piece of art.
i have a 2020 Triumph Rocket 3 GT and man does it get attention from peoples each ride i take with it everytime someone come to me to talk or take picture of it its amazing it like owning a Ferrari or a Lamborgini ONE word to describe it TORQUE.
I've owned the newer rocket 3 and only a 30 minute test ride on the Diavel v4 with the akrapovic exhaust. All I gotta say is when I finished my test ride on the Diavel I bought it instantly. The handling hands down beats the rocket. It's almost as nimble as my streetfighter. It's definitely a more fun bike than the rocket. Don't get me wrong. The rocket was a beast. Comfortable, torquey etc. But the Diavel just put me in that giddy mood. I love them both but I'll have to hand over the title to the Diavel
I choose both. I'm not sure which one I'll be getting first though. I think both will be an upgrade from my HD Breakout
I'll always rank the Diavel high in all regards. It's something very easy to work with, where in the Rocket make take the crown for massive cc figure and looks but its more harder bike to work with. Think of moving the Rocket backwards in some area with less turning ground that's going to be a nightmare.
Enjoying the ride with my father’s Rocket 3 GT but I also would like to get my hands on a diavel v4 just because I think that cornering ability is much better since it’s lighter. Overall great review for both bikes!
Isn't the Rocket 3 a transverse triple rather than in-line?
No. It's inline
Diavel definitely
Nothing against the Rocket, I love that too
Just the Diavel has this Italian design to it that makes it slim even tho it’s not exactly slim. Idk quite how to describe it it’s just magnificent
Forgot noisy chain drive of Diavel vs shaft drive of the Rocket. And there's not a single passenger in the world that wouldn't opt for the comfort of the Rocket. Another tip regarding the engines: the Rocket 3's engine is SEVERELY restrained from the factory. It has reduced fuel at the higher RPMs and the revving is cut way prematurely. As you can easily find it can rev for 1500 more and given the proper fuelling it can be a 200 hp bike...with no other modifications done.
If I were going to get one of these, it'd be a second bike next to my Tuono. I don't need another fun bike to carve canyons. That's what my Tuono is for. I would, however, love a Rocket to crush highway miles. If I could only have 1 bike, it wouldn't be either of these. But it would be the Triumph for me as a second bike.
I've had a Speed Triple RS for the past two years but now moving over to the Diavel. Picking mine up this Saturday and can't wait!!!!! Like the Rocket but just think it looks too cumbersome, the Ducati on the otherhand is just pure Italian majic but now with a dash of German reliability!! (being owned by Audi/VW)
Mate, it's been a year. Tell us how the Diavel compares to the Street Triple please! Thanks!
Is it price differential or the coolness the reason you see many more Rocket 3s on the road? Tons of accessories and configurations available for the Rocket 3. The spec page indicates Ducati and suppose if you are a rider that likes to run the roads at a quick pace. However, if you only occasional hustle down the road the Rocket 3 would be a much better choice.
Having experienced neither first hand,, I would definitely consider the 2300cc Beast mode ROCKET. 🎉torque wins ultimately... 😊
Great video. At last, Ducati are using normal valves. In fact, better than normal, with 60,000 km intervals. That's a big deal and a huge step in the right direction.
Aussie Rocketeer on a 22 GT, and love it. I had an 07 Classic which felt like a tractor (don't get me wrong, I loved it) and the GT is just smooth, sleek, hammers the road into submission and handles far better than it has any right to.
On another channel the Diavel pulled on the Rocket in roll-on situations in all gears (engine!!)
gearing weight … diavel spin biger rpm on the same gear + is lighter thats why it can go close roll-on at the same gear from low to mid rpm cos at biger it leave rocket in the dust 👌🏻 if you setup regulation in such way 👉🏻 the same velocity the same rpm dosent matter what gear is required for make the same rpm in both at the same velocity and from idlle up to rpm limiter so 6,5-7 k rpm rocket beat diavel at same gear it be close to certain rpm depend on precise diffrenc in gearing weoght power level at specified rpm must be precise calulcated + drive train losesss roll and drag , roll on from optimal rpm like in race in both and diavel smoked rocket diavel start from 9 k rpm rocket from 5 k rpm so both from like 80-90% rpm before peak power and rocket dont have chance cos both generate similar power but diavel is much lighter end of stpry .
Have a 2022 R3gt, 7k on it , has been flawless, also a 2019 Speedmaster with over 20K on it had a couple issues but were covered by the factory, looking at at K1600B and or XDiavel
I've put 50,000+ miles on my 2022 Rocket 3 R, including a 7,000-mile ride from the southeast US to the Canadian Rockies. I love the bike. I would not trade it for a V4, but I am saving my pennies to purchase a V4. Each bike has its advantages. It seems the only good answer is to own both. If I had to pick one, the Rocket wins if for no other reason than it has a shaft drive. I hate chain maintenance.
I traded my large Harley Davidson towards a Diavel V4. Moving that beast around the garage was getting painful and I really was looking to shed weight for my mostly local rides. That said, I hope to be able to add a Rocket to my garage at some point. IMHO, weight considerations aside, I don't know that there's a wrong answer. Ride safe!
I'd choose the Triumph based on price. Both gorgeous and bonkers
Just bought a 2025 rocket 3gt. The bike with its new black and blue color scheme is sick! Will sit nicely next to my 2017 harley fat boy s. I started with sport bikes and enjoyed them for years until i got old. Much prefer comfort and torque over top end speed now. However, id love to add a diavel 1260s or xdiavel to my collection, those were the best looking gen for the diavel in my opinion. The V4 diavel feels cheap compared to the older gen and doesn't look as sexy.
Obviously voids the warranty but simply tuning the ecu unlocks more horsepower than than I've ever seen from simply reflashing. It's shocking how much triumph has restricted this bike from the factory
So that they can sell new models with slightly more power each time
I test drove both of these models. In conclusion, if you like riding with the strength of your inner thighs, choose the Rocket 3R, and if you like riding lightly with your hips, choose the Ducati. Ducati is good because the foot placement, seat comfort, and dashboard design are pretty. Rocket 3's engine power is acceptable, but the seat is a bit hard, the place to place your feet is a bit awkward, and I don't like the stupid instrument panel. Also, because the oil tank is huge, it feels a lot of pressure, and the seating position is uncomfortable, making long-distance travel impossible.
Rocket for features plus sheer presence 😀
For my money the Rocket is the best all around street bike out there. I can play with the sport bikes (i have passed more of them than have passed me) and do long tours with the baggers (just finished a 3100 mile 8 day ride, wouldn’t want to do that on the Diavel). Plus that torque provides never ending grins, lol.
Interesting. I just watched Lamb Chops comparison and they loved the Diavel. I doubt I'll ever be able to afford either of these bikes,,,,,you've got a dream job my friend
Triumph Rocket all day long for me.
Well with the money saved on the Rocket One can get an aftermarket exhaust and ECU flash and then the R3 gets closer to 175+bhp on the back wheel. And even more torque! But as an exacting Sunday blast machine Ducati probably still will get my vote because of the lower weight and better agility. So Rocket is a better cruiser but Ducati is a better naked motorcycle. I would be happy with any of the two
Both look like great bikes im coming from a supersport honda RR love my speed and handling but as time goes on im beginning to think otherwise looking for a sporty cruiser. Was thinking the Rebel 1100 until a friend showed me the Rocket 3R never knew it existed an i must say its absolutely stunning actually goin to look at one this weekened. Ive gotta see it in person it just looks like my type of bike bold makes a statement and itll be easy to find it in a crouded bike event 😂 unlike my honda RR until i painted the wheels hyper orange. Great video.. keep the rubber side down. Safe riding guys and girls!
The triumph would be my choice!😊
I feel that the Rocket is more true to the cruiser ethos. Being closer to a large naked bike, the Diavel is something I'd consider once I'm too fat for a Streetfighter 😂
The Rocket 3 is so much more fun than the Ducati.
Traded a 2018 Fat Boy for my 2017 R3R and haven't looked back. Love the comfort, power, and looks of the older Rockets (like mine). However, if I could afford it, I'd probably have one of the new ones!
I just ordered a new 2025 rocket 3gt. I also own a 2017 harley fat boy s with a stage 4, 117ci kit and other engine mods. Love my harley but i wanted to add another bike to my collection that is more refined and a little better with handling compared to my super low fat boy that scrapes floor boards at the slightest turn lol. I think the rocket 3gt will be that extra something I'm craving while still giving me the comfortable cruiser feel.
Awesome video Bob 👍🏽
Im a Rocek owner and i love the bike it does everything i want and more. Ive riden the Diavel V twin and the V4 yes there ok not my cup of tea would never buy one over the Rocket. Ive toured on mine Several times to France Germany and Austria and going again to Autria this year. My GT is perfect for long tours with all the gear on and my wife cant beat it. As for the Diavel after riding it for some time i wouldnt want to tour on it loaded and with a passinger. My Rocket is the better by far and on runs good on fuel i get about 50mls to the gallon. After riding for over 50 years had hundreds of bikes even Ducatis Goldwings big Yamahas loads of Triumphs, the Rocket is the best ive had love touring on it and at 73 i will go on till im unable to. Just to say my Rocket is the one Moto Bob did his first ride on a Rocket from the London Triumph shop......
Rocket III for me. It just stops me dead every time I see it. The Diavel is beautiful to look at and I am sure it’s fun to throw around, but at my age I am less interested in that and more interested in the sheer presence and comfort of the Rocket III.
Of course we could all have one of each! 😂
Engine and styling go to the Diavel in my book.
I purchased The Rocket 3GT recently. Shaft drive and very large tires and Brembos. If it's not better than sex it is a close runner up.
The Rocket 3 looks like a Boss Hoss motorcycle. I’d feel self conscious on that thing lol
I traded my 07 zx14 on a new 08 rocket 3 back in the day, both bikes were equally viscous just in different ways, Id love a new rocket 🤔
A bit of let down in terms of diavel's looks if im honest, the older one looked sleeker amd meaner.. the new model looks kinda iffy, compared to rocket 3 design, it's no contest..
And that v4 engine, i feel like it would be a semi direct competitor to the streetfighter.. honestly the old v twin diavel had was it's own class.. too bad they teplaced it
I agree with everything accept the styling. The rocket is a look we’ve seen before where the Ducati is unique.
Lol where have you seen anything else like the rocket!!!
I find the Rocket uncomfortable on a long ride as the wind forces my legs out (which makes them ache after a while) due to the wide fuel tank.
Diavel for me, i see it as a muscle bike, not a cruiser in any way though, I'd be happy with either mind you! :)
I live in an area with very steep hills, some questionable road quality here and there (Seattle). If im cruising it cant be on something that weighs as much as a car if I get stuck. And if im sport riding I want something lightweight and flickable that doesnt require massive braking power to bring down from speed in a sketchy situation. Neither for me, but they are nice on a poster.
Great points Rob, tbh I loved owning my Rocket 3R and to me it's just more special. However having owned one for 18mo, 9000 miles and since sold then now I do covet the Diavel, for a sportier ride, and I loved the Diavel when it first come out, the weight difference of the v5 version is a big reason and the longer service intervals. Also fancy a Gen2 Vmax, or a ZH2 if I can ignore the looks. I also love my OG 1985 Vmax, the original bad daddy.
Nice review, but the complete omission of mentioning the VMAX as a competitor suggests an opportunity for more research.
I love my 2010 R3.
I picked a new Triumph Rocket 3 R. I’ve had it for Two months and it’s just a great bike. It’s really the smooth very highly cultured 007-James Bond of bikes. No question about it whatsoever. When you cruise on the bike, you really do hear the cool slinky theme music to 007. It rides like a dream does the twisties very well. Funnily, I’ve met quite a few bikers that are intimidated by the rocket 3. More interestingly though is a lot of women like owning the bike and their intimidation of the bike for some reason doesn’t exist. I kind of think it’s the testosterones the rocket extrudes and men often are intimidated by something that’s more manly than they feel they are. Who knows? But that’s a real phenomenon I’ve seen many times.
Definitely the rocket as I think the Ducati will go out of fashion in markets where speed is an issue
Ricket III over here!!
Polite comments, no trash talking...cant believe im on youtube. Good job guys.
Always the Rocket, it's a masterpiece!
For me, a metric that you didn't cover, that would be the scale tipper for me, is RELIABILITY! Which manufacturer has more known reliability issues?
Well done, please tell us your favourite tween Rocket and Goldwing DCT now?
A rider who likes lighter weight bikes, more an enthusiast, looks at handling not just raw speed, chooses the Ducati. Those who like power and torque above all regardless of heavy weight, choose the Triumph. Rocket owners say how well it handles but thats relative. Sure it handles well for a 700 pound bike, but not compared to lighter bikes. Its physics.
Rocket3 all day.
please upload the comparison video between super meteor and honda rebel 500🔥
Does anyone know if Ducati is going to redesign the X Diavel with this new engine?
The Diavel is closer related to the Speed Triple 1200 RS.
At my age (62) and if I have the money, I'd go for the Rocket GT.
Both don’t compare to the Ducati Xdiavel which hits peak power lower and achieves circa 50mpg which neither of these bikes achieve. From a value for money and low end peak power delivery you cannot beat the xdiavel even coupled with the termi system. The new Diavel has a smoother engine no doubt but the bars are narrow and makes you feel like a 🦖 and is too plastic happy. I love the rocket but which it was lighter and more efficient with space in the cockpit for a garmin sat nav as opposed to the close cut fly screen. Nice review but I think the X is still a player and is overlooked imo.
The Rocket is special - has its own engine with ridiculous specs - ie suitable for this application
Me looking at my Vmax : "dw darling you're still the best to me"
The Diavel may cost more... but I think it actually costs less when it comes down to maintainance and taxes!
Triumph rocket 3R red color is always best for me ..
I'm trying to decide between these two right now... the Rocket III has the edge for me I think because I really want an aftermarket exhaust and $7500 for the stupid Akra on the Ducati is a war crime.
Having just changed my Tiger for a Multistrada V4S, I would definitely go for the Diavel, the engine is epic and build quality is far better on the Ducati than the Triumph. The weight of the Rocket would be a big concern to me.
Ducati win for me.
diavelv4 is powercruiser/naked new class rocket is powercruiser . more torq rocket make the same power at lower rpm 👌🏻
Owned an R3 and that bike was so good in a straight line, but Nothing like the Duc V4 NOTHING~!!!!! My 1158 will Eat that 2300 for Breakfast, lunch and Dinner, and still have room for dessert
Does the Rocket have a diesel engine?
What!!!!
What!!!!
WHY does the exhaust for a triple end in two pipes? Makes no sense. It should either be one, or three mufflers like my Hurricane.
Bring back the BMW K1300
If people buying one of these need the 1k quid difference in price, they shouldn't be buying one of these to begin with. So, I really don't think price is a win or lose choice. Styling is 100% subjective. I like the Ducati styling way better than the Triumph's. But that is just me. What is missing is build quality. I'd almost bet Triumph would win this category, but Ducati has made great strides to improve in their quality too. Also IMHO, the engine should have gone to the Diavel. The Rocket's engine is almost gaudy and over exaggerated, like a caricature. It's a small penis compensator if I've ever saw one. It's overkill to say the least. Some people may want that. I certainly don't, thus the Diavel would be my choice between the two for sure, just on that criteria alone.
And as others have mentioned, on a motorcycle you want to have fun. And the Diavel will offer much more fun than the big lug Rocket. And fun factor to me is a much more weighted category than any other.
Díavel to ride, the Rocket to own. Owning a Ducati is an absolute chore sometimes.
The best is the one you like the most ❤️ if you hesitate, get both 😂
If I could only have one, I'm taking the rocket. But since I'm dreaming, and it's free, I'm getting them both. Peace MOTOBOB.
Diavel just doesn't have a cruiser vibe at all - it's a naked bike. The Rocket 3 is true PERFORMANCE cruiser.
Just me or Triumph with that WALL-E vibe fr.
This type of bike isn’t about its actual dynamics they are caricatures of motorcycles that have sacrificed dynamics for perceived style. For me the Triumph has the look and the presence and whilst the Ducati is obviously a far superior motorcycle it is still hampered compared to every other model in the range and yet doesn’t have the Triumph look. So would never buy either and feel embarrassed to be seen on them but if offered to give me one I’d have the Triumph please.
I would not touch an Italian motorbike even though Ducati is owned by VAG group.
Triumph is much more interesting and going to be more reliable.
The diavel is the exact bike I would want ,,,,, except for being chain driven.