End credits was fine) Seriously. Movie was a mess. Its not a prequel, its just reboot that feels like was made without completed script. It seemed that they did reshoots, and rewrites when studio cut the budget. And sets was repurposed for different scenes. And than he was made even worst 2 movies. The problem is, that they cant do a proper prequel, because it wouldnt contains a people. The origin story need to be about space jockey crew only. But who give a budget for movie like this? Who would watch movie like this? So we have what we have. Yet another slasher in space movie just came out.
P completely destroyed Gigers biomechnical environment and replaced it with a sterile 3D printed look. THIS is one of the reasons the prequels are hated. They simply lack quality and attention to detail
It's mind-boggling when we begin to realize the magnitude of the filmmakers' imagination, craftsmanship, professionalism, and dedication as a project moves forward. We spend a few bucks to sit in a theater for a couple hours, watching a spectacular movie without thinking about all the people who actually put it together. Such talent !!!
Sadly these amazing artists were pushed out to make way for activists who are super racist,sexist and made street protesting mandatory during working hours.
@@adampeel6161if your version of satisfaction includes set designers and concept artists from 1979 knowing exactly what advanced tech would look like then I’m afraid to tell you you’re cursed to a hellish existence. Better luck in the next life, maybe you’ll be able to enjoy things more.
@@zachpinkston4233 I'm cursed to a hellish existence because I thought a film didn't aesthetically match another film later in the same universe? Jesus Christ dude relax. Prometheus was a shitty movie and I enjoy alot of things
Prometheus wasn’t a perfect movie, but it was a beautifully made movie and a lot of fun. It’s an amazing sci fi movie. Ridley was setting up a cool franchise. I hate that the studio stepped in for Covenant. I wanted to continue the story. Covenant was a big turd in a punch bowl. So sad.
Loved Prometheus as well. And yes, Covenant was a let down... but I'm still glad they continued David's story. Fassbender does such a magnificent job. Basically, Covenant was just a small side story.
Could not agree more. Shaw's quest to find the home of the engineers is such an original and exciting premise for a movie. Prometheus was not perfect as you said but it set up a perfect sequel and all they needed to do was to learn from some of the narrative and structural problems in Prometheus and apply their findings in the Shaw-led sequel.
Would have been great to see where Scott had originally planned to take Prometheus, since he had said that it was going to deviate even further from tying into Alien. But Alien Covenant is what you get when the studio listens to people crying about how there wasn't enough bang, bang shooty bruh
I was too young when alien 3 came out to be angry at what they did with Hicks and Newt. Alien Covenant is my Alien 3. I wanted to see more of Dr. Shaw's journey.
@@Your_opinion_is_probably_trash no it was not bad.....its was a very good piece of film,but nooo the so call die hard fans wining about oooh noooo we want more aliens and bla bla bla the studio listen and the the biggest crap in the alien franchise came out COVENANT MANURE and it ruined the franchise
All this worry during pre-production about being too directly tied to the IP and not repeating themselves, and yet Prometheus is basically a straight up remake of the original film.
The level of grand detail and work put into Prometheus was unreal. I hope Scott has it in him to recreate this magic at least one more time in his life for another epic sci-fi film of this magnitude.
Its hilarious how Ridley Scott acts like HE found Geiger LMFAO.....It was Dan O'Bannon who found Geiger and who was lobbying Fox for them to allow Geiger to design the Alien, to the point that he went to Ridley Scott and showed him the designs to get Scott on board with him, hoping he could talk to Fox.
This kind of retconning one's own history is becoming far too commonplace. You see it all sorts of places, like Glen Schofield trying to act like Callisto Protocol wasn't just the abandoned original plan for Dead Space, or Filoni disowning the Star Wars EU even though TCW was originally planned to fully accommodate the existing stories instead of streamrolling over them.
Ridley's biggest weakness is that he seems unable to discern what a good script looks like. Just looking at Prometheus coming out shortly before The Martian. The gulf of quality between both there. But he keeps making enough movies that he can do a few duds and we still give him chances. Because, where his talent actually lies is in design and directing. No matter how bad the scripts are. He makes it look slick and professional. That all being said. The scientific illiteracy and reveling in ignorance and shortsighted ideas... Those factors kept me from embracing Prometheus.
Agreed 100%. Ridley Scott is a great visual director. One of the greatest of all time. But Scott doesn't seem to understand people and story very well. Whenever he makes a movie with a good story, it seems like it's despite him and not because of him. When he works with a great screenwriter, then you get great results. But when he works with a hack like Lindeloft, you get this. And, based on recent comments by him about historical errors in his films, it seems like his past successes has made him very arrogant. He doesn't appear to listen to criticism very much.
The first movie I ever saw alone in theaters was this. Was at a work trip Saw it in an empty theater. Thought it was the coolest mind blowing movie I had seen in while. So scary. Love it.
I love the film for its audacity, big ideas and balls. It seemed to be two full movies smashed together, heavily edited. So episodic, Prometheus could have been better told as a series, but I still love what they achieved. Your research and presentation is on par with Cinema Tyler. I always make a point to checking in. Thanks.
Prometheus has some of the best art direction. Ridley's ability to visually story board an entire film is such a great tool to have. I also really enjoyed the look into robots and ai with David.
This is really good, like I'm kind of shocked. A TV channel or made for TV production that airs on cable or something because this is so highly produced and well produced I'm takin away
Really loving this series - outstanding work! As for the film, Prometheus was one of the first Alien movies I ever experienced, and... gosh if only Scott had had some fine-tuning of the script, this could've been great. I hate how Shaw just gets tossed aside after this - it's exceptionally rare for a spiritual but also pro-science protagonist in any mainstream media, especially a horror franchise. This could've escalated in any number of ways, but instead, no, we're just making it all about Fassbender.
I'm glad they mentioned HR Giger. Without him you have nothing. Honestly this film particularly is like a movie glorification of his art. RIP Giger one of the greatest air brush painters ever to exist and a complete dark surreal mastermind. Love you brother.
8:12 Fox Studios earnestly trying to get a PG rating on Prometheus is absolutely insane. What a colossal misread on their part, I'm so glad Ridley Scott was able to maintain the more mature R rating on Prometheus.
@@hasbeendavid The origin of humans, why they made humans, character development, not running sideways when the ship was crashing down on them. It could have been more interesting with the plot points they were going after.
@@hasbeendavid Well yes, thats the point, no one bothered to sanity check the script from start to finish. That was the greatest missed opportunity. Hence why under any vaguely critical eye, the movie and plot totally falls apart. Incompetence!
I'm loving this series of videos! Great work all around. If I my suggest an idea for the next series. I would enjoy (and believe others would too,) a production series on Planet of the Apes. There are plenty of them and who guys could release them in a few different ways. The old movie series first, the new series first or in (I guess this is a thing,) chronological order. A couple other movie serise suggestions would be, the Bourne serise, X-Men, Die Hard, Star Trek, and/or the Batman serise.
one thing i really like about prometheus is, for all its "flaws", it made me feel like i was watching alien 1979 in essence... i never knew who the real lead was, i never knew what the big bad is, there was lingering corporate maliciousness and scientific curiosity. thats why i put prometheus in an unconventionally high place in my Alien tier list. but thats just me...
Yeah, I do think some people miss that the real "villain" is definitely Weyland/Yutani. The first Alien film would never have happened if it wasn't for their synth they sent along that allowed the compromised crew member from coming back aboard the ship.
@@FrameVoyager thanks for the validation guys, def. defending prometheus to my friendgroup. your videos are top tier as usual! sendin all the love to your team⚡🌌
I'm happy to find a Prometheus enjoyer in the comments. It's... my favorite Alien movie. My opinion on it is that no one is wrong in their choice of favorite movie. We all like what we like and I personally liked the vibes of Prometheus. Some people really like the vibe of Aliens with what Jim Cameron infused into it. Some like the OG Alien for the cosmic horror and mystery. Some want new ground to be tread - some feel that too much deviation is bad and the removal of the cosmic horror aspect retroactively colors the originals. It's a very complex set of things. But I personally love the new lore added in the prequels, the parallels to god, creation, and all of that. Thats the depth I personally wanted out of the series vs. it staying simpler and more of a monster/cosmic horror franchise. I think it gets increasingly harder to maintain the mystery and horror of the Xeno if you choose not to expand. Romulus was a great example of this I think. The Xeno in that was fantastic - but I didn't get the butterflies in my stomach horror I felt with the originals. But... I did with the newborn engineer hybrid. So evolution and expansion of the lore, I think, is necessary.
Also, for the first _Alien_ movie they had early drafts of the script referring to a pyramid instead of a derelict craft, and they had deleted scenes featuring eggmorphing. These imply that many of the elements found in the prequels were considered early on.
I never realized how much they shot practically in this film. The effects were amazing but knowing they overlayed really good effects over that is awsome
right, it's closer to Frankenstein or At The Mountains of Madness. But there's STILL people who can't get over it, and others who somehow think AVP3 would be a good idea as long as there was some PULSE RIFLES this time.
Although it has a lot of problems I feel Prometheus wouldnt be hated as much if Covenant was a direct sequel that kept the same tone. The panic of swapping the focus back to the Xenomorphs felt rushed qnd lazy
I love Prometheus. I’m fascinated by the visuals and lore beyond any of the other Alien films, and the OG Alien is one of my favorite films ever. I’m so sad it received the backlash that it did upon release to where we ended up with Covenant as the follow-up.
I'm not sure if this or Covenant are the worst in the main series. And it's super weird how Ridley can make such bad movies but also some of my favourite movies of all time.
The characters keep making stupid decisions like touching the alien monster and running straight away from the rolling alien ship. But other than this, the movie was great.
I can appreciate the thought and work that went into this although the story is what held it back, either cut off the Alien stuff or create something NEW.
Prometheus is so fucking awesome, the fans are insane for hating it, i will never understand ppl who just want the same movie over and over again. They ran star wars into the ground
Though there's no denying how good this film looks, its populated with characters who are just... stupid!!! And unlikeable. A lot of really great actors completely wasted and it makes me wonder why no-one stopped at the script vetting stage and fired Lindeloff.
Yeah so many glaring errors and stupid ideas throughout the entire script. It made me quesiton just how "professional" many are in Hollywood. It's been downhill ever since. It also made me feel that Ridley Scott is really just taking the paychecks now over anything else. If he really cared, would he have gone with that script?
When the Prometheus movie was in the works, I was quite excited. Unfortunately, the movie we got (as most people will agree) was a bit of a mess. It's a shame as there we some good ideas in there.
I love Prometheus, and it would have been so cool if the story had been continued properly. Aspects of the David/Walter storyline in Covenant are super interesting, though.
The Prometheus ship looked like a fancier version of the nostromo. Of course rhe owner of the company has the best possible ship available. It still had design elements similar to the nostromo. You can see the inspiration in the design there 😊
I was very lucky. I got to see Prometheus in the theater without seeing any previews or reviews or discussions about it of any kind. I experienced it totally blind, and it became one of my favorite movies of all time. It’s Sci-Fi perfection. I think the reason most people trash the movie (other than herd mentality) is because they had a bunch of preconceived ideas of what they wanted it to be, possibly based on the cryptic horror themed trailers. Disliking Prometheus because it isn’t another copy/paste Xenomorph slasher movie is extremely low IQ. Thank god Romulus takes place in an inconsequential timeline between 2 existing films, and thank god Ridley is still alive to hopefully give a Prometheus sequel another try. David might be the coolest Sci-Fi villain ever and he deserves a proper conclusion.
I always have had a soft spot for Prometheus. It really was a concept that if it just had a few elements corrected and added in it could have been something truly special. But what I really appreciate about it is the idea to swing for the fences in a re-invention of what the franchise could be. I think there is to much rehashing of IP nowadays and studios really need to allow some fresh takes to content
I think expectations were a big factor but a lot of that was down to the marketing, the trailer was shot in exactly the same way as 'Alien', even had the iconic 'dur dur duuur' sound effect ffs. They should have created something completely outside of the franchise but of course they didn't have faith in the original vision to put bums on seats, they chickened out, promised everything to everyone and then delivered a confused mess (an epic looking mess with some great moments, to be fair).
@@adamdiggle1371 They recently messed up the trailer for Gladiator 2 also. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if that movie turns out to be amazing anyway. I wonder how much control Ridley or any Director even has over how their work is advertised when it’s finished? I’ll definitely make sure to avoid anymore marketing for that film before viewing it though. I’ve heard it a lot, but I’ve always felt that Prometheus WASN’T a “mess” at all. But maybe my tastes are strange. I also feel that (besides Prometheus) Pandorum and Chronicles Of Riddick are the best Sci-Fi movies of the past 20 years. Some might consider those “third rate”, but I find their atmosphere, set design, structure etc… to be exactly how science fiction should be done. It’s kind of a miracle Ridley was able to make such an old school feeling , thoughtful and moody sci-fi mystery in 2012, as opposed to the standard overhyped flashy, loud and simplistic reboot.
I saw the 3-hour making of Prometheus. They would make you think they were about to make something amazing. The saddest thing about this movie is how a lot of what is on the screen could have made way more sense if Ridley didn't remove a whole bunch of scenes thinking they were slowing the film down. It just ended up as a silly mess.
I saw this with my best friend in IMAX 3D. I remember us clinging to each other during the cesarean scene. Both of us let out a very audible “WTF!?!?” during that sequence. We had fun during that viewing.
I only liked the first two movies and Prometheus with Covenant. The expansion of the story, making It not just a horror but really deep philosophical story about the origins of humanity, God his creation really caught my attention. Later two movies are the pinnacle of underestimation by the auduance. Either the audience was not ready or they wanted another action, horror, sci-fi with superwoman kicking ass. The first one tried to please the audience giving action and strong woman, that's why I think It was weaker of the two. Covenant came and It was amazing. I still sometimes rewatch those movies and of those two Covenant stands out. Favourite scene was the opening one, same with the Covenant, Ridley did a great job on both of them.
Alien and Aliens were great because they committed to a genre - namely Horror and Action. The prequels don't commit to creating a certain experience. They're all over the place.
Did you enjoy Prometheus more than Alien or Aliens? I didn't. I went in looking for adrenaline, cause that's what Alien and Aliens were about. I was disappointed. The Prometheus horror/action sequences were basically covering the same ground, so they weren't exciting. And the world building was just dull. Yes, combining genres can work. But Alien and Aliens were more intense because they were focused. That was my point.
The line "God does not build in straight lines!" always irked me. There are absolutely straight lines, geometrical structures, and polygonal shapes that can be found in nature.
Love this movie. Not perfect but super ambitious, idk why people want more of the same. If you want to watch a monster chase around a space crew watch the og one
Id love an Alien movie where we learn more about the engineers, how/why they created the black goo and what was it meant for, did they intend to create Xenomorphs and if not how it'll backfired on them., their home world and the planets they kept the goo on like in Prometheus. Also id love to see some engineers make it to Earth and see the war that'd break out.
Another great video. I'm curious if they used 15/70 IMAX in some scenes? If so, is it the gigantic 3D IMAX film cameras or is it a 2D to 3D conversion? In another one of your videos, I remember you giving this film a mention of using IMAX film.
Guy was enthusiastic ehich makez more sense than some sabotage by cutting corners by disguising military personel as scientists and add the odd amateur here and there
The Engineer storyline is what made Prometheus a great film. People were eager to see Shaw and David travel to the Engineer homeworld and get the answers Shaw was looking for. But that whole storyline was butchered in Covenant because 20th Century Fox catered to toxic fans..
"Toxic fans" and that's why no one takes you seriously. I thought the engineer storyline was terrible. Then covenant was also terrible for different reasons. The engineers could have been a good idea if implemented in a satisfying way, actually answering the questions it asks. Instead it's just Damon Lindelof mystery box writing
I think Prometheus will go down as a sci fi classic. It's one of my favorite films of the 2010's. If you judge it on it's own standing and not have an expectation of it being an "Alien" film, then it's a great time.
I went in not knowing it was an alien film. And didn't figure it out till about 75% of the way in. I thought it was great it has its flaws but a must see indeed
Oh boy I liked how this was looking before Lindelof came in... and I hate the trope of irresponsible scientists... And he made them make the stupidest mistakes.
I really want a Space Jockey movie, were they in war against the Xenomorphs? Was the derelict a vessel, for the remaining eggs that haven't breached after winning a war against the Xenomorphs, was the Space Jockey the last member of their civilization after fighting against an overwhelming infestation, that costed their entire civilization to end, with one last survivor transporting the eggs while drifting throughout LV-426, to destroy them on a different planet?
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What's your favorite scene in Prometheus?
David hanging around Prometheus by himself before everyone else wakes up. "The trick Mr Potter, is not minding that it hurts"
End credits was fine)
Seriously. Movie was a mess. Its not a prequel, its just reboot that feels like was made without completed script.
It seemed that they did reshoots, and rewrites when studio cut the budget. And sets was repurposed for different scenes.
And than he was made even worst 2 movies.
The problem is, that they cant do a proper prequel, because it wouldnt contains a people. The origin story need to be about space jockey crew only. But who give a budget for movie like this? Who would watch movie like this?
So we have what we have. Yet another slasher in space movie just came out.
The deleted scenes ^
They had to define what tf was the black goo for the movie to make any sense
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P completely destroyed Gigers biomechnical environment and replaced it with a sterile 3D printed look. THIS is one of the reasons the prequels are hated. They simply lack quality and attention to detail
It's mind-boggling when we begin to realize the magnitude of the filmmakers' imagination, craftsmanship, professionalism, and dedication as a project moves forward. We spend a few bucks to sit in a theater for a couple hours, watching a spectacular movie without thinking about all the people who actually put it together.
Such talent !!!
Sadly these amazing artists were pushed out to make way for activists who are super racist,sexist and made street protesting mandatory during working hours.
Prometheus was Weyland's personal ship, so of course it had to be nicer. Nostromo was a cargo rig.
Still doesn't vaguely resemble the future of Alien though. It's meant to be years and years before as well
@@adampeel6161if your version of satisfaction includes set designers and concept artists from 1979 knowing exactly what advanced tech would look like then I’m afraid to tell you you’re cursed to a hellish existence. Better luck in the next life, maybe you’ll be able to enjoy things more.
@@zachpinkston4233 I'm cursed to a hellish existence because I thought a film didn't aesthetically match another film later in the same universe? Jesus Christ dude relax. Prometheus was a shitty movie and I enjoy alot of things
@@adampeel6161 nah it was a great film.
@@Rschr101it really wasn’t
Great film. Ridley is the man. He should have been allowed to finish this trilogy.
I loved this movie. Sure the idiotic cuts made the story incoherent and confusing, but it has a grand vision, and the end result is memorable.
Prometheus wasn’t a perfect movie, but it was a beautifully made movie and a lot of fun. It’s an amazing sci fi movie. Ridley was setting up a cool franchise. I hate that the studio stepped in for Covenant. I wanted to continue the story. Covenant was a big turd in a punch bowl. So sad.
Loved Prometheus as well. And yes, Covenant was a let down... but I'm still glad they continued David's story. Fassbender does such a magnificent job.
Basically, Covenant was just a small side story.
Could not agree more. Shaw's quest to find the home of the engineers is such an original and exciting premise for a movie. Prometheus was not perfect as you said but it set up a perfect sequel and all they needed to do was to learn from some of the narrative and structural problems in Prometheus and apply their findings in the Shaw-led sequel.
Agree it was a really interesting movie.
Sadly majority prefare to see the crew vs alien type of movie over and over again...
@@backto-il9neit could have been Ridley Scott’s At The Mouth of Madness 😢 damn
We would have gotten to see the aftermath of the war in heaven. What kind of giger hellscape could have awaited 😢
Ahh, the famoue 'black goo' era of SciFi. Star Trek (2009), District 9 and Prometheus.
Did I miss any?
Would have been great to see where Scott had originally planned to take Prometheus, since he had said that it was going to deviate even further from tying into Alien. But Alien Covenant is what you get when the studio listens to people crying about how there wasn't enough bang, bang shooty bruh
I was too young when alien 3 came out to be angry at what they did with Hicks and Newt. Alien Covenant is my Alien 3. I wanted to see more of Dr. Shaw's journey.
Prometheus was bad and people pretending it wasn’t to sound cool will never not be funny to me.
@@Your_opinion_is_probably_trash i'd rather eat a glass sandwich than see prometheus again. Sheer fucking hubris somebody would say
@@Your_opinion_is_probably_trash no it was not bad.....its was a very good piece of film,but nooo the so call die hard fans wining about oooh noooo we want more aliens and bla bla bla the studio listen and the the biggest crap in the alien franchise came out COVENANT MANURE and it ruined the franchise
Yeah totally agree....it would be a lot better if they had stick to the original ideia about the engeniers and the space jockey
All this worry during pre-production about being too directly tied to the IP and not repeating themselves, and yet Prometheus is basically a straight up remake of the original film.
I am watching Alien movies in chronological way, this is a good video for me to understand. Great video mate.
Glad to hear it!
The level of grand detail and work put into Prometheus was unreal. I hope Scott has it in him to recreate this magic at least one more time in his life for another epic sci-fi film of this magnitude.
Its hilarious how Ridley Scott acts like HE found Geiger LMFAO.....It was Dan O'Bannon who found Geiger and who was lobbying Fox for them to allow Geiger to design the Alien, to the point that he went to Ridley Scott and showed him the designs to get Scott on board with him, hoping he could talk to Fox.
Yeah it's pretty funny. We talk about that in the first video of this series. Obannon met him working on Dune lol
It's spelled giger...
This kind of retconning one's own history is becoming far too commonplace. You see it all sorts of places, like Glen Schofield trying to act like Callisto Protocol wasn't just the abandoned original plan for Dead Space, or Filoni disowning the Star Wars EU even though TCW was originally planned to fully accommodate the existing stories instead of streamrolling over them.
In interviews Ridley says Dan showed him the necronomicon and he saw page 3 and knew that was the Alien… so idk what ur talking about
@@amelietrue yep! We show that interview in our aliens video 😅 such commonplace for everyone to want a piece of the pie lmao
Ridley's biggest weakness is that he seems unable to discern what a good script looks like. Just looking at Prometheus coming out shortly before The Martian. The gulf of quality between both there.
But he keeps making enough movies that he can do a few duds and we still give him chances. Because, where his talent actually lies is in design and directing. No matter how bad the scripts are. He makes it look slick and professional.
That all being said. The scientific illiteracy and reveling in ignorance and shortsighted ideas... Those factors kept me from embracing Prometheus.
Agreed 100%. Ridley Scott is a great visual director. One of the greatest of all time.
But Scott doesn't seem to understand people and story very well. Whenever he makes a movie with a good story, it seems like it's despite him and not because of him. When he works with a great screenwriter, then you get great results. But when he works with a hack like Lindeloft, you get this.
And, based on recent comments by him about historical errors in his films, it seems like his past successes has made him very arrogant. He doesn't appear to listen to criticism very much.
Yeah the script is impressively awful. It's a very well-made dumb movie, that's the best description I can give it.
Prometheus was absolutely appalling. I remember coming out of the cinema and being genuinely furious at how bad was.
Your dumb
The first movie I ever saw alone in theaters was this. Was at a work trip Saw it in an empty theater. Thought it was the coolest mind blowing movie I had seen in while. So scary. Love it.
Lindelof talking about "lofty ideas" and then cutting to his godawful dialogue is funny
I loved Prometheus; Had no idea so much of it was practical fx. I've been binging these and you've done a great job. On the lookout for Covenant next.
Working on finishing that one up right now!
@@FrameVoyager Excellent! Thanks for the hard work you've put into these.
still miles better than the crap we get these days. I actually used to like movies back in 2012.
great BTS video. One of my favorite Sci Fi movies.Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I love the film for its audacity, big ideas and balls. It seemed to be two full movies smashed together, heavily edited. So episodic, Prometheus could have been better told as a series, but I still love what they achieved. Your research and presentation is on par with Cinema Tyler. I always make a point to checking in. Thanks.
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this series has been a MUST SEE content. I look forward to the next episode each day!
Prometheus has some of the best art direction. Ridley's ability to visually story board an entire film is such a great tool to have. I also really enjoyed the look into robots and ai with David.
This is really good, like I'm kind of shocked. A TV channel or made for TV production that airs on cable or something because this is so highly produced and well produced I'm takin away
Really loving this series - outstanding work! As for the film, Prometheus was one of the first Alien movies I ever experienced, and... gosh if only Scott had had some fine-tuning of the script, this could've been great. I hate how Shaw just gets tossed aside after this - it's exceptionally rare for a spiritual but also pro-science protagonist in any mainstream media, especially a horror franchise. This could've escalated in any number of ways, but instead, no, we're just making it all about Fassbender.
I'm glad they mentioned HR Giger. Without him you have nothing. Honestly this film particularly is like a movie glorification of his art. RIP Giger one of the greatest air brush painters ever to exist and a complete dark surreal mastermind. Love you brother.
Vids like this is why I love this channel. Never stop killing it!
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I really enjoyed this one, surprisingly it had a lot of hate, idk why
8:12 Fox Studios earnestly trying to get a PG rating on Prometheus is absolutely insane. What a colossal misread on their part, I'm so glad Ridley Scott was able to maintain the more mature R rating on Prometheus.
This film had a ton of potential, just many missed opportunities.
What’s an example of one of those missed opportunities?
@@hasbeendavid The origin of humans, why they made humans, character development, not running sideways when the ship was crashing down on them. It could have been more interesting with the plot points they were going after.
@@hasbeendavid How this team were meant to be the best of the best in their field but acted like they were idiots sent on a reality TV show.
@@jabezhane for sure. I don’t think that’s the definition of a “missed opportunity” but I agree with the critique.
@@hasbeendavid Well yes, thats the point, no one bothered to sanity check the script from start to finish. That was the greatest missed opportunity. Hence why under any vaguely critical eye, the movie and plot totally falls apart. Incompetence!
I'm glad I found your channel. Your videos are great
@@AriestheLegendRVA appreciate it! Welcome to the channel!
Scott just made us ask MORE questions lol
I'm loving this series of videos! Great work all around.
If I my suggest an idea for the next series. I would enjoy (and believe others would too,) a production series on Planet of the Apes. There are plenty of them and who guys could release them in a few different ways. The old movie series first, the new series first or in (I guess this is a thing,) chronological order.
A couple other movie serise suggestions would be, the Bourne serise, X-Men, Die Hard, Star Trek, and/or the Batman serise.
My dude, you’re doing an incredible job with all of these videos!
one thing i really like about prometheus is, for all its "flaws", it made me feel like i was watching alien 1979 in essence... i never knew who the real lead was, i never knew what the big bad is, there was lingering corporate maliciousness and scientific curiosity. thats why i put prometheus in an unconventionally high place in my Alien tier list. but thats just me...
Yeah, I do think some people miss that the real "villain" is definitely Weyland/Yutani. The first Alien film would never have happened if it wasn't for their synth they sent along that allowed the compromised crew member from coming back aboard the ship.
@@FrameVoyager thanks for the validation guys, def. defending prometheus to my friendgroup. your videos are top tier as usual! sendin all the love to your team⚡🌌
Appreciate it!
I'm happy to find a Prometheus enjoyer in the comments. It's... my favorite Alien movie. My opinion on it is that no one is wrong in their choice of favorite movie. We all like what we like and I personally liked the vibes of Prometheus. Some people really like the vibe of Aliens with what Jim Cameron infused into it. Some like the OG Alien for the cosmic horror and mystery. Some want new ground to be tread - some feel that too much deviation is bad and the removal of the cosmic horror aspect retroactively colors the originals. It's a very complex set of things. But I personally love the new lore added in the prequels, the parallels to god, creation, and all of that. Thats the depth I personally wanted out of the series vs. it staying simpler and more of a monster/cosmic horror franchise. I think it gets increasingly harder to maintain the mystery and horror of the Xeno if you choose not to expand. Romulus was a great example of this I think. The Xeno in that was fantastic - but I didn't get the butterflies in my stomach horror I felt with the originals. But... I did with the newborn engineer hybrid. So evolution and expansion of the lore, I think, is necessary.
Watched your whole Alien series I love how you make your videos- Great work! I'm so fascinated by the Alien franchise.
Also, for the first _Alien_ movie they had early drafts of the script referring to a pyramid instead of a derelict craft, and they had deleted scenes featuring eggmorphing. These imply that many of the elements found in the prequels were considered early on.
I never realized how much they shot practically in this film. The effects were amazing but knowing they overlayed really good effects over that is awsome
LOVE Prometheus. I don't consider it an entry in the Alien Franchise, but rather an addition to the lore of the universe and its own thing.
right, it's closer to Frankenstein or At The Mountains of Madness. But there's STILL people who can't get over it, and others who somehow think AVP3 would be a good idea as long as there was some PULSE RIFLES this time.
Agreed, it's just beautiful to me.
It’s very much an entry in the Alien franchise, and I fuckin love it.
i am watching this series before the release of romulus, i have enjoyed every video
Although it has a lot of problems I feel Prometheus wouldnt be hated as much if Covenant was a direct sequel that kept the same tone. The panic of swapping the focus back to the Xenomorphs felt rushed qnd lazy
I love Prometheus. I’m fascinated by the visuals and lore beyond any of the other Alien films, and the OG Alien is one of my favorite films ever. I’m so sad it received the backlash that it did upon release to where we ended up with Covenant as the follow-up.
I only recently watched Prometheus and I loved it so much and in my opinion Micheal Fassbender and Noomi Rapace absolutely CARRIED this film
Like others have stated, awesome series! I am a huge aliens and predator fan. Thank you
I'm not sure if this or Covenant are the worst in the main series. And it's super weird how Ridley can make such bad movies but also some of my favourite movies of all time.
AVP robbing us of a Ridley Scott/James Cameron produced Alien 5 is biggest tragedy in all of this.
These vids don’t get enough views, they’re great
Appreciate it!
The characters keep making stupid decisions like touching the alien monster and running straight away from the rolling alien ship. But other than this, the movie was great.
drinking from a glass after the robot put his finger in it
Yep! That was a stupid thing to do. I guess he was too drunk to notice.
I can appreciate the thought and work that went into this although the story is what held it back, either cut off the Alien stuff or create something NEW.
Loving the series!!!
Almost over! 2 more to go
Such a well crafted series of docs.
Can we hope to see it expanded to AVP and Predator ? Their production's stories are as dense as the alien saga.
I really loved this movie thought it was a great start for the alien franchise.
Lindelof was the bigest issue with this production.
His script was terrible.
100% Hearing him speak just confirms what a dolt he is.
Prometheus is so fucking awesome, the fans are insane for hating it, i will never understand ppl who just want the same movie over and over again. They ran star wars into the ground
To understand them , compare it to 2001
@@Reprodestruxion why would I do that?
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Give Ridley a good script and he will create magic, just don’t let him pick it cause he doesn’t know what a good script is lol😂
I agree with Roger Ebert.I loved the 3d and saw it 4 times in the cinema in Bangkok.
Though there's no denying how good this film looks, its populated with characters who are just... stupid!!! And unlikeable. A lot of really great actors completely wasted and it makes me wonder why no-one stopped at the script vetting stage and fired Lindeloff.
Yeah so many glaring errors and stupid ideas throughout the entire script. It made me quesiton just how "professional" many are in Hollywood. It's been downhill ever since. It also made me feel that Ridley Scott is really just taking the paychecks now over anything else. If he really cared, would he have gone with that script?
When the Prometheus movie was in the works, I was quite excited. Unfortunately, the movie we got (as most people will agree) was a bit of a mess.
It's a shame as there we some good ideas in there.
It was a mess, but man I still love watching it haha
Been waiting for this one!
Ah, I was hoping you would make this. Subbed as thanks :D
i binge watched these tonight,,, warm and slimy feelings in my chest... . . . .
I love Prometheus, and it would have been so cool if the story had been continued properly. Aspects of the David/Walter storyline in Covenant are super interesting, though.
The Prometheus ship looked like a fancier version of the nostromo. Of course rhe owner of the company has the best possible ship available. It still had design elements similar to the nostromo. You can see the inspiration in the design there 😊
I was very lucky. I got to see Prometheus in the theater without seeing any previews or reviews or discussions about it of any kind. I experienced it totally blind, and it became one of my favorite movies of all time. It’s Sci-Fi perfection.
I think the reason most people trash the movie (other than herd mentality) is because they had a bunch of preconceived ideas of what they wanted it to be, possibly based on the cryptic horror themed trailers. Disliking Prometheus because it isn’t another copy/paste Xenomorph slasher movie is extremely low IQ.
Thank god Romulus takes place in an inconsequential timeline between 2 existing films, and thank god Ridley is still alive to hopefully give a Prometheus sequel another try. David might be the coolest Sci-Fi villain ever and he deserves a proper conclusion.
I always have had a soft spot for Prometheus. It really was a concept that if it just had a few elements corrected and added in it could have been something truly special. But what I really appreciate about it is the idea to swing for the fences in a re-invention of what the franchise could be. I think there is to much rehashing of IP nowadays and studios really need to allow some fresh takes to content
I think expectations were a big factor but a lot of that was down to the marketing, the trailer was shot in exactly the same way as 'Alien', even had the iconic 'dur dur duuur' sound effect ffs. They should have created something completely outside of the franchise but of course they didn't have faith in the original vision to put bums on seats, they chickened out, promised everything to everyone and then delivered a confused mess (an epic looking mess with some great moments, to be fair).
@@adamdiggle1371 They recently messed up the trailer for Gladiator 2 also. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if that movie turns out to be amazing anyway. I wonder how much control Ridley or any Director even has over how their work is advertised when it’s finished? I’ll definitely make sure to avoid anymore marketing for that film before viewing it though.
I’ve heard it a lot, but I’ve always felt that Prometheus WASN’T a “mess” at all. But maybe my tastes are strange. I also feel that (besides Prometheus) Pandorum and Chronicles Of Riddick are the best Sci-Fi movies of the past 20 years. Some might consider those “third rate”, but I find their atmosphere, set design, structure etc… to be exactly how science fiction should be done. It’s kind of a miracle Ridley was able to make such an old school feeling , thoughtful and moody sci-fi mystery in 2012, as opposed to the standard overhyped flashy, loud and simplistic reboot.
how tf you releasing these so quick😭
😅 I have a really streamlined production process I've developed
@@FrameVoyagerkeep it up, love the videos
I saw the 3-hour making of Prometheus. They would make you think they were about to make something amazing. The saddest thing about this movie is how a lot of what is on the screen could have made way more sense if Ridley didn't remove a whole bunch of scenes thinking they were slowing the film down. It just ended up as a silly mess.
What was it called? Where did you watch it?
@@t3chnicolor It's called Furious gods: The making of Prometheus. I found it here on TH-cam. It's a good watch.
I saw this with my best friend in IMAX 3D. I remember us clinging to each other during the cesarean scene. Both of us let out a very audible “WTF!?!?” during that sequence. We had fun during that viewing.
I felt the pain of all the running, falling, bending, stretching and possible tearing. Did she just heal really fast, like Ripley did?
I only liked the first two movies and Prometheus with Covenant. The expansion of the story, making It not just a horror but really deep philosophical story about the origins of humanity, God his creation really caught my attention. Later two movies are the pinnacle of underestimation by the auduance. Either the audience was not ready or they wanted another action, horror, sci-fi with superwoman kicking ass. The first one tried to please the audience giving action and strong woman, that's why I think It was weaker of the two. Covenant came and It was amazing. I still sometimes rewatch those movies and of those two Covenant stands out. Favourite scene was the opening one, same with the Covenant, Ridley did a great job on both of them.
Alien and Aliens were great because they committed to a genre - namely Horror and Action. The prequels don't commit to creating a certain experience. They're all over the place.
You do realize a film can have more than one genre right prometheus have more drama and mystery to them
You do realize a film can have more than one genre right prometheus have more drama and mystery to them
Did you enjoy Prometheus more than Alien or Aliens? I didn't. I went in looking for adrenaline, cause that's what Alien and Aliens were about. I was disappointed. The Prometheus horror/action sequences were basically covering the same ground, so they weren't exciting. And the world building was just dull. Yes, combining genres can work. But Alien and Aliens were more intense because they were focused. That was my point.
The line "God does not build in straight lines!" always irked me. There are absolutely straight lines, geometrical structures, and polygonal shapes that can be found in nature.
Love this movie. Not perfect but super ambitious, idk why people want more of the same.
If you want to watch a monster chase around a space crew watch the og one
Id love an Alien movie where we learn more about the engineers, how/why they created the black goo and what was it meant for, did they intend to create Xenomorphs and if not how it'll backfired on them., their home world and the planets they kept the goo on like in Prometheus. Also id love to see some engineers make it to Earth and see the war that'd break out.
2:07 I would love to see you make a production video for both of the AVP disasters.
an absolute MASTERPIECE!
Prometheus was not well received when it was first released but over time it has become a masterpiece and perhaps the best entry in the Alien series
One of my all time favorite movies
One of my favorite movies
Such an impressive production with people working extremely hard to bring to life one of the dumbest scripts ever written. Tragic.
Spot on
Another great video. I'm curious if they used 15/70 IMAX in some scenes? If so, is it the gigantic 3D IMAX film cameras or is it a 2D to 3D conversion? In another one of your videos, I remember you giving this film a mention of using IMAX film.
Oh, look, a space snake! Here, boy!
Those scenes are so frustrating. It should have been such a crazy good film, they just had to make everyone dumb lol
Guy was enthusiastic ehich makez more sense than some sabotage by cutting corners by disguising military personel as scientists and add the odd amateur here and there
The Engineer storyline is what made Prometheus a great film. People were eager to see Shaw and David travel to the Engineer homeworld and get the answers Shaw was looking for. But that whole storyline was butchered in Covenant because 20th Century Fox catered to toxic fans..
"Toxic fans" and that's why no one takes you seriously. I thought the engineer storyline was terrible. Then covenant was also terrible for different reasons. The engineers could have been a good idea if implemented in a satisfying way, actually answering the questions it asks. Instead it's just Damon Lindelof mystery box writing
Sickk, would love to see some videos on the production/making of iconic anime’s like Akira, ghost in the shell etc
I think Prometheus will go down as a sci fi classic. It's one of my favorite films of the 2010's. If you judge it on it's own standing and not have an expectation of it being an "Alien" film, then it's a great time.
I went in not knowing it was an alien film. And didn't figure it out till about 75% of the way in. I thought it was great it has its flaws but a must see indeed
Prometheus is my favorite movie
Oh boy I liked how this was looking before Lindelof came in... and I hate the trope of irresponsible scientists... And he made them make the stupidest mistakes.
"Prometheus" is what happens when no one will tell a director "No."
Prometheus by far is the best looking Alien movies.
I am very, very glad with the fact that ridley Scott was not much involved with alien Romulus
We need a part 3 that makes up for covenant and actually gives us some answers 😩
The Awesomeness that Is Continues!! 👊😎✊😆👌😆👍😎🍁
After all these years, I'm still trying to like Prometheus.
Instead of I replacing Spaights , I would have added him to a panel including Grant Morrison and Steven Moffat
I really want a Space Jockey movie, were they in war against the Xenomorphs? Was the derelict a vessel, for the remaining eggs that haven't breached after winning a war against the Xenomorphs, was the Space Jockey the last member of their civilization after fighting against an overwhelming infestation, that costed their entire civilization to end, with one last survivor transporting the eggs while drifting throughout LV-426, to destroy them on a different planet?
I hope you do AVP and AVP 2! 😍
Artlist music. Nice👌
I like the first half of the Prometheus movie.
"The Mythical Production of Prometheus"
Thanks for this very good sense of humor.
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weird jump around 20:00 and 20:03 - did you get a copyright strike or is there a section missing for some other reason?
Not on this one! I'm not sure why it jumps like that haha
@@FrameVoyager I got similar errors when exporting from Adobe, never found out why though might be something to do with the cuda cores if you are using a gaming gpu rather than quadro as they are more prone to rendering artifacts.
@@J0MBi I'm using a 4090 😅 but I think it was an error in my edit, sometimes I just miss those extra frames
First! (Except I’m lying)
You got to get up earlier my man
The 2nd best sci fi movie I’ve ever watched after interstellar. Should’ve kept this story going but messed up at covenant
You really should watch more movies, lil niga