Being a teenager in the 80/s (and not a true basketball fan), we all became fans due to the Bird - Magic rivalry. We all loved them both! I'm from the northeast, so I followed Larry more than Magic. The other night, my husband was getting ready to go to bed, and the Lakers game was on (he was a huge Lakers fan growing up). It was the Playoffs. I stopped watching basketball after the Dream Team because I was too busy and tired as I was raising children. WOW, what an awakening for how the game has changed to a bunch of overpaid babies. We only watched for about 15 minutes and couldn't take it anymore. These spoiled and overpaid players today wouldn't have stood a chance against the players of the 80s and 90s. The last time I saw a more exciting game was when my son played in junior high school in 2005. The game today is sad and pathetic. NONE of these players would stand a chance against the men that paved the road for them decades ago. They are a spoiled generation and not really that talented - ESPECIALLY LaBraon. He's so overrated. He wouldn't have made the first cut in the 80s.
The last part Jordan said was...Hard shooting after Bird dropped 23! Lol. Thank you doing all these vids! I hope you continue with these...love hearing the trash talk stories!
I'm 59, and was a teen back in the 1970s. Even back in the mid 1970's we use to use the word Holmes (with the L being pronounced) when having fun trash talking with other kids....and it was always used in a fun, light hearted way. The usage of Holmes has been around since the 1960s. Later on, I heard that some areas in the country started to drop the 'L' and were saying it as 'Homes' (dropping the L sound) -- and connecting to the word 'Homeboy' but it was also meant to be more harsh as far as the meaning behind it when trash talking someone.
@@cindyknudson2715 Back when I was a teen, I think a lot of us, when we used the word Holmes we kind of associated it with Sherlock -- as in 'Go get a Clue" We used 'Holmes' as trash tallk/an insult to someone who didn't get a joke...or to just pick on them as if they weren't smart, did something dumb, or was showed up by another friend. And that was exactly what Larry was doing when he he said 'Holmes' lol. Already trying to get the other guy thinking about that trash talk rather than focusing 100 percent on the game. : )
I grew up in L.A. and first heard it in the early 70s too when I was a kid. The "L" was always silent and the proper spelling probably shouldn't even include it since it was an abbreviation of the latino expression "homeboy." Having said that, the first time I heard it was when an older neighborhood friend saw my 6th grade class roster and there was somebody on the list named Holmes. My friend started laughing hysterically and that's how I learned about its usage. It could be used interchangeably as either an insult or a term of endearment. Just depended on the context. The next year I started Junior High and everybody was calling each other Holmes (or Homes). "Homie" also derives from the same source but that generally has a positive connotation.
@@ContrarianCorner No, the 'homeboy' Homes, came after the original Holmes. ------------------------------------------- From the Urban Dictionary: "Holmes" (L is not silent) is the correct Ebonics pronunciation which has a history of being used equivalently with, "dude", "guy", "man" or similar non-familiar alternatives not in the third person. It was made popular in late 1960s East Coast slang, and *then later devolved into, "homes" (silent L) at which point it was incorrectly assumed to be short for, "homeboy"* ---------------------------------------------- I grew up in Idaho, again, a teen in the early 1970s and it was Always 'Holmes'....heard it on t.v. as such. I can, however, understand how it, could have been misheard and very easily being spoken as 'Homes' -- especially by inner city kids where the the term 'homeboy' was probably used more often than like in the suburbs or rural/small communities. Anyway... regardless, Larry was using the word Holmes. Which in some of those 'Larry' clips out there is shown in captions as Holmes. I did, however seen one captioned clip of that story where the uploader incorrectly used the word 'Homes' when that clip was played.
What is left out in the video is when Bird says "You all know who's going to win this so who's planning on coming in second" is Bird thought Leon Wood was going to win. He explained this in another video I saw of him. That is why Bird said "who's planning on coming in second?". He thought the rest of them would be fighting for 2nd place.
@@hookedonreactions7649 The video that is shown is probably from the 3rd contest but Bird in the audio is talking about the first one. The audio and video are from different years. My mistake is I referred to the video instead of the audio.
Bird wasn't known as a three point specialist when he played. It was when he won the 3 point competition when that talk started. He was a power forward/small forward hybrid, his game was 10ft plus post and fade and he was dominant. And he passed better than 99 percent of big men.
He didnt become known for it until later ....because they didn't even have a 3 point line until Larry bird entered the league in 1979 as a rookie! Lol.
Thank you and YES YES YES PLEASE PLEASE DO THE KOBE ONE!!!!!!!!!!!! Also I am like you I could listen to him talk and questions and debates etc or ANYTHING ALL DAY LONG!!!!!!!!! His interviews were probably Artie honestly with his awesome game plays just because how much a study he was . It just reminds me so much how Eminem digs deep and he KNOWS HIS RAP HISTORY AND ALL THE ROOTS!!!!!!! I wish he liked interviews more. But it’s ok I just appreciate him laying it all out ALL FORMS in his raps. Oh and IF YOU DIDNT KNOW HE CAN SERIOUSLY BALL!!!!!! And box!!!!! Ok back to I can’t wait to hear your thoughts on this!!!!!!!
That was Elos's #1 mistake...puffing up on Bird! Lol. That just said it's on! 😂😂😂. That one of the things that's always stuck with me about Bird. No matter what's happened...Bird never made excuses... regardless of circumstances he never did. No one can ever say Bird slacked off...he played if he could...& times when he shouldn't...lol. I don't know many players that have continued with a fractured cheekbone, a concussion & double vision! That's not incl his back...that I'm sure wasn't feeling great after smacking into the floor!
@@BU_TV Hey Bu! Have you ever reacted to this video.......The Best Larry Bird INSTANT KARMA Story Ever Told? I can't find it.... I might've just missed it. But figured I'd ask in case you hadn't & if not ...gives you something new. lol
He shoot better in college he broke his finger before going pro and he has said he never had the same feel and shooting ability as he did in college before he broke his finger
@@Dusk1962 Why? If you think it's off topic I wrote it because in the video they talk about white players guarding Bird, if you disagree with the comment you should make an argument
Well, to be fair- there are a lot of black people who aren’t African. They could be from Jamaica, Haiti, DR etc. same for white- we aren’t ask European. Corks be Canadian or Australian etc
Bird top 5 all-time, respectfully. 🙏🏽💪🏽🇺🇸💪🏽
That boy nice
Being a teenager in the 80/s (and not a true basketball fan), we all became fans due to the Bird - Magic rivalry. We all loved them both! I'm from the northeast, so I followed Larry more than Magic. The other night, my husband was getting ready to go to bed, and the Lakers game was on (he was a huge Lakers fan growing up). It was the Playoffs. I stopped watching basketball after the Dream Team because I was too busy and tired as I was raising children. WOW, what an awakening for how the game has changed to a bunch of overpaid babies. We only watched for about 15 minutes and couldn't take it anymore. These spoiled and overpaid players today wouldn't have stood a chance against the players of the 80s and 90s. The last time I saw a more exciting game was when my son played in junior high school in 2005. The game today is sad and pathetic. NONE of these players would stand a chance against the men that paved the road for them decades ago. They are a spoiled generation and not really that talented - ESPECIALLY LaBraon. He's so overrated. He wouldn't have made the first cut in the 80s.
for future reff. the 3 pt line wasnt introduced till Larry's rookie year. if you watch his college games... there is no 3 line
His home court didn’t have a 3 point line either. Love that mentality!
What exactly does that mean
what mentality are you referring to?
The last part Jordan said was...Hard shooting after Bird dropped 23! Lol. Thank you doing all these vids! I hope you continue with these...love hearing the trash talk stories!
They are fun arent they?
@@BU_TV My Fav! lol
I'm 59, and was a teen back in the 1970s. Even back in the mid 1970's we use to use the word Holmes (with the L being pronounced) when having fun trash talking with other kids....and it was always used in a fun, light hearted way. The usage of Holmes has been around since the 1960s.
Later on, I heard that some areas in the country started to drop the 'L' and were saying it as 'Homes' (dropping the L sound) -- and connecting to the word 'Homeboy' but it was also meant to be more harsh as far as the meaning behind it when trash talking someone.
This is enlightening! Thank you! I know in the mexican community in the western USA it is heavily used
Yeah, Bird said Holmes.
( Like Sherlock 🙂)
@@cindyknudson2715 Back when I was a teen, I think a lot of us, when we used the word Holmes we kind of associated it with Sherlock -- as in 'Go get a Clue"
We used 'Holmes' as trash tallk/an insult to someone who didn't get a joke...or to just pick on them as if they weren't smart, did something dumb, or was showed up by another friend.
And that was exactly what Larry was doing when he he said 'Holmes' lol. Already trying to get the other guy thinking about that trash talk rather than focusing 100 percent on the game. : )
I grew up in L.A. and first heard it in the early 70s too when I was a kid. The "L" was always silent and the proper spelling probably shouldn't even include it since it was an abbreviation of the latino expression "homeboy." Having said that, the first time I heard it was when an older neighborhood friend saw my 6th grade class roster and there was somebody on the list named Holmes. My friend started laughing hysterically and that's how I learned about its usage.
It could be used interchangeably as either an insult or a term of endearment. Just depended on the context. The next year I started Junior High and everybody was calling each other Holmes (or Homes). "Homie" also derives from the same source but that generally has a positive connotation.
@@ContrarianCorner No, the 'homeboy' Homes, came after the original Holmes.
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From the Urban Dictionary:
"Holmes" (L is not silent) is the correct Ebonics pronunciation which has a history of being used equivalently with, "dude", "guy", "man" or similar non-familiar alternatives not in the third person.
It was made popular in late 1960s East Coast slang, and *then later devolved into, "homes" (silent L) at which point it was incorrectly assumed to be short for, "homeboy"*
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I grew up in Idaho, again, a teen in the early 1970s and it was Always 'Holmes'....heard it on t.v. as such.
I can, however, understand how it, could have been misheard and very easily being spoken as 'Homes' -- especially by inner city kids where the the term 'homeboy' was probably used more often than like in the suburbs or rural/small communities.
Anyway... regardless, Larry was using the word Holmes. Which in some of those 'Larry' clips out there is shown in captions as Holmes. I did, however seen one captioned clip of that story where the uploader incorrectly used the word 'Homes' when that clip was played.
What is left out in the video is when Bird says "You all know who's going to win this so who's planning on coming in second" is Bird thought Leon Wood was going to win. He explained this in another video I saw of him. That is why Bird said "who's planning on coming in second?". He thought the rest of them would be fighting for 2nd place.
That was the first 3 point contest, this is the 3rd contest. There’s a video floating around about the first one where he talks about Leon Wood.
@@hookedonreactions7649
The video that is shown is probably from the 3rd contest but Bird in the audio is talking about the first one. The audio and video are from different years. My mistake is I referred to the video instead of the audio.
I'm glad you knew cause I was getting confused LOL
Bird wasn't known as a three point specialist when he played. It was when he won the 3 point competition when that talk started. He was a power forward/small forward hybrid, his game was 10ft plus post and fade and he was dominant. And he passed better than 99 percent of big men.
He didnt become known for it until later ....because they didn't even have a 3 point line until Larry bird entered the league in 1979 as a rookie! Lol.
But he was known as the best shooter in the league during his time .....the entire league
It always catches me off guard hearing Doc rivers talk w/o the rasp
Yoooooo i agree!!! Did the rasp come from coaching?
Thank you and YES YES YES PLEASE PLEASE DO THE KOBE ONE!!!!!!!!!!!! Also I am like you I could listen to him talk and questions and debates etc or ANYTHING ALL DAY LONG!!!!!!!!! His interviews were probably Artie honestly with his awesome game plays just because how much a study he was . It just reminds me so much how Eminem digs deep and he KNOWS HIS RAP HISTORY AND ALL THE ROOTS!!!!!!! I wish he liked interviews more. But it’s ok I just appreciate him laying it all out ALL FORMS in his raps. Oh and IF YOU DIDNT KNOW HE CAN SERIOUSLY BALL!!!!!! And box!!!!! Ok back to I can’t wait to hear your thoughts on this!!!!!!!
Classic ET finger
That was Elos's #1 mistake...puffing up on Bird! Lol. That just said it's on! 😂😂😂. That one of the things that's always stuck with me about Bird. No matter what's happened...Bird never made excuses... regardless of circumstances he never did. No one can ever say Bird slacked off...he played if he could...& times when he shouldn't...lol. I don't know many players that have continued with a fractured cheekbone, a concussion & double vision! That's not incl his back...that I'm sure wasn't feeling great after smacking into the floor!
I got my face smashed into the ground flat. Busted face! Got put in a pedigree! Bird is a champ!
@@BU_TV Hey Bu! Have you ever reacted to this video.......The Best Larry Bird INSTANT KARMA Story Ever Told? I can't find it.... I might've just missed it. But figured I'd ask in case you hadn't & if not ...gives you something new. lol
@@BU_TV Love your commentary! lol
He shoot better in college he broke his finger before going pro and he has said he never had the same feel and shooting ability as he did in college before he broke his finger
That crooked finger still calculated precision
@@BU_TV He just had to sight it in. Minor technicality for Larry.
He really did not mean Homes out of disrespect. He played with black guys before he ever became a pro player.
And Nuzlockes were born from Pokémon games!
Correct! I was going to mention Pokemon but I was like I might not have any Pokefans here😂 i was wrong!!
@@BU_TV yep, just my profile pic says it all 🤣.
Bird was definitely about degree of difficulty. Makes sense.
I'm still shocked you guys use the word white and black, it's european and african here. Cheers from Venice Italy
Stupid post
@@Dusk1962 Why? If you think it's off topic I wrote it because in the video they talk about white players guarding Bird, if you disagree with the comment you should make an argument
Whats up! Love italy! When I was in Sicily they just called me American or black. But I was near Sigonella so it made sense
Well, to be fair- there are a lot of black people who aren’t African. They could be from Jamaica, Haiti, DR etc. same for white- we aren’t ask European. Corks be Canadian or Australian etc
@@lauriep2018 That's true, but it's just funny to use colors to me, unless you call asians yellow
.......bu..you be the best