Couple thoughts; get a ball joint removal tool aka pickle fork (way cheap at Harbor Freight) drill two holes in the cat the size and spacing to get the tool forks in there. Attach a pair of big vice grips on the tool and twist the cat material out. This worked on the pre 2024 ZX6R, but the new pucks look a lot thicker. Also, once you gut the cat you have created an expansion chamber, in effect another muffler, that's why the tone changed, and what you lost in restriction you gained in back pressure with the expansion chamber. One cancels out the other. Some people hate the sound after the cat is gutted, the scream is gone and the tone is too mellow for their tastes. But to each his own. In other bikes I have de-catted, after a tune the bike comes "on the cam" at a much lower RPM; more bottom end power. Highly recommend a tune/flash after any de-cat.
Is it me or were you shortshifting like crazy? You still had plenty of powerband to go in each gear before you had to shift. My ‘23 gets over 100mph in 3rd. By the time I hit 6th I’m going 140.
Depending on your setup, yes. I think the only thing keeping us from running as lean as everyone else is that goofy 360 link pipe, which I haven't seen anyone else use. I'm planning too, maybe next week. Probably have Mooremafia or 2wdw do it
Well and I was thinking I'd get a full system, but thought I'd try this first because I was curious. Wanted to put it out there because I'm sure a bunch of people wonder about it too. I'm so pleased with it a full system is no longer on the list to get
I just bought the M4 street slayer and it’s coming right off just like yours is. So I can cut that out and I won’t need a tune and it won’t throw engine codes. I’m kinda curious because I do plan on tuning it but if I can just do this for the mean time and get that pop like I want plus it just sounds better.
Yeah as far as a cheap way to get the perks of a full system without spending the cash this seems to work good. I'll probably get mine tuned here sometime but with it running perfect without it, I'm not really in any hurry
Im so tempted to do this on my 2024 zx6r but just by watching you do it, I'm kinda thinking twice already. Those honeycomb looking foil looks like a bitch to take out.
It is, no doubt about that. This is why I wanted to make a video about it, so people had an idea of what they were getting into if they decided to do this. It's not impossible but it is more labor intensive than I initially thought
@@bikesandbangs and I also saw some vids that they removed the side fairing and the entire exhaust system, and there's no way I'm going through all that, I love tinkering with my bike, but I think this is not worth tinkering with! Thanks for the content!
I gave it a shot and failed miserably. After 2 hours of hard core drilling, hammering and chiseling I gave up. Took the headers to the local muffler shop and they cut out the cat and welded a 2.5 inch straight pipe. BEST $50 I EVER SPENT! Thanks for the video, great content!
@@eriks.5829 $50 for a catdelete?! In my country they think that every bigbike owners are shitting money. a simple catdelete (without ECU flash or tuning) costs around $100+
ive got a street triple with an hp corse slip on and i want to gut my cat but im not to sure if itll throw a code or run too lean. should i get a tune after or do you think it should be fine?
@@bikesandbangs will I be okay with a AR de-cat exhaust for full performance or should I get a full system exhaust? I heard there not much of a difference but not really sure. Thank you
I am still on a stock tune, not flashed yet. I feel like my link pipe adds just enough back pressure to make this setup work fine. I can't find or tell any adverse affects. What slip on exhaust and link pipe do you have?
After the flash you can unplug it without needing a servo buddy or anything. Mine is still in there and plugged in. I suppose I could remove that anytime
I hear u but that’s not exactly right. That small converter is probably worth 200 bucks at best. If he wants to cut that section of pipe out, he would have to have a new section welded on. Or he wouldn’t be able to put on a slip on exhaust and would need to buy a full exhaust. Both of those options would cost more than he would get from selling that catalytic converter. Hope that clears up any misunderstanding.
Couple thoughts; get a ball joint removal tool aka pickle fork (way cheap at Harbor Freight) drill two holes in the cat the size and spacing to get the tool forks in there. Attach a pair of big vice grips on the tool and twist the cat material out. This worked on the pre 2024 ZX6R, but the new pucks look a lot thicker. Also, once you gut the cat you have created an expansion chamber, in effect another muffler, that's why the tone changed, and what you lost in restriction you gained in back pressure with the expansion chamber. One cancels out the other. Some people hate the sound after the cat is gutted, the scream is gone and the tone is too mellow for their tastes. But to each his own. In other bikes I have de-catted, after a tune the bike comes "on the cam" at a much lower RPM; more bottom end power. Highly recommend a tune/flash after any de-cat.
This is what we needed, now she's a screamer
Now everything I own has an exhaust job lol
I got the M4 slip on just for the looks. Glad I didn’t order the full system. Probably the same result for half the price and a some hours of work.
Yeah it really is
I straight piped mine and added a fuel controller, and I noticed more power near the redline, but less power below 5000rpm
Sounds like you need just a little back pressure to get that low rpm power back
I installed the ixil link pipe and shorty ,I must say it's just sound amazing
Awesome man! Glad to hear it 👍
What shorty did you put on it? Got a link to it? Im getting this bike this year and want a decent shorty for it.
Muffler - amzn.to/3Tp2SqW
Link Pipe - ebay.us/XMNrPq
And I have videos on how to install it
Is it me or were you shortshifting like crazy? You still had plenty of powerband to go in each gear before you had to shift. My ‘23 gets over 100mph in 3rd. By the time I hit 6th I’m going 140.
So is there fire?
watching this as im enjoying a miller lite as well. may have to try removing the cats on my zx4. cheers.
Do it to it man 👍
Once you de-cat the bike, consider it a full system and get a tune.. imo
Depending on your setup, yes. I think the only thing keeping us from running as lean as everyone else is that goofy 360 link pipe, which I haven't seen anyone else use. I'm planning too, maybe next week. Probably have Mooremafia or 2wdw do it
Sure thing. That will get more HP and more content for the channel too..
Precisely 👍
Well and I was thinking I'd get a full system, but thought I'd try this first because I was curious. Wanted to put it out there because I'm sure a bunch of people wonder about it too. I'm so pleased with it a full system is no longer on the list to get
@@bikesandbangs i would have moore mafia do it for sure!! he did my 23' ninja 650 & that bike accelerates like a 600 now lmao
I just bought the M4 street slayer and it’s coming right off just like yours is. So I can cut that out and I won’t need a tune and it won’t throw engine codes. I’m kinda curious because I do plan on tuning it but if I can just do this for the mean time and get that pop like I want plus it just sounds better.
Yeah as far as a cheap way to get the perks of a full system without spending the cash this seems to work good. I'll probably get mine tuned here sometime but with it running perfect without it, I'm not really in any hurry
Im so tempted to do this on my 2024 zx6r but just by watching you do it, I'm kinda thinking twice already. Those honeycomb looking foil looks like a bitch to take out.
It is, no doubt about that. This is why I wanted to make a video about it, so people had an idea of what they were getting into if they decided to do this. It's not impossible but it is more labor intensive than I initially thought
@@bikesandbangs and I also saw some vids that they removed the side fairing and the entire exhaust system, and there's no way I'm going through all that, I love tinkering with my bike, but I think this is not worth tinkering with! Thanks for the content!
I gave it a shot and failed miserably. After 2 hours of hard core drilling, hammering and chiseling I gave up. Took the headers to the local muffler shop and they cut out the cat and welded a 2.5 inch straight pipe. BEST $50 I EVER SPENT! Thanks for the video, great content!
Haha 😂😂
@@eriks.5829 $50 for a catdelete?! In my country they think that every bigbike owners are shitting money. a simple catdelete (without ECU flash or tuning) costs around $100+
Not very “start to finish.” How did you get the edge pieces out after u removed the majority of the center?
ive got a street triple with an hp corse slip on and i want to gut my cat but im not to sure if itll throw a code or run too lean. should i get a tune after or do you think it should be fine?
Get a tune it’s probably already running lean lost bikes do from factor
Wouldnt a muffler shop be able to just cut it and weld a pipe in its place like they do with cars ?
Another viewer said that's what he did
Nice bike man. Are you keeping this one forever?
It's tough to call. I don't have a plan to get rid of it, is what I'll say lol
Next time use a drill with a paddle bit. It will be faster and easier for you.
Have u tried it will that kind of bit?
what about a hole saw, would that have worked better...?
I thought about trying that, but idk if it would cut through that catalytic material. It's worth a shot
Will everything be the exact same on the 2025 model?
Yep 👍
@@bikesandbangs will I be okay with a AR de-cat exhaust for full performance or should I get a full system exhaust? I heard there not much of a difference but not really sure. Thank you
@@bikesandbangswould you recommend a M4 gp19 full exhaust system with no catalytic converter or De-cat Austin racing exhaust system?
Tough to say, I don't have either of those exhausts. I guess if you made me chose I would take the m4 full system
Are you still on stock tune? Can I do this can keep it this way until I decide to get it tuned?
I am still on a stock tune, not flashed yet. I feel like my link pipe adds just enough back pressure to make this setup work fine. I can't find or tell any adverse affects. What slip on exhaust and link pipe do you have?
How long did you ride around decatted before you sent it in to get tuned?
A few hundred miles, not sure exactly
@@bikesandbangs I’m running an M4-GP19 Slip on, so I no longer have your set up, and won’t have any back pressure lol
Did you unplug the servo after installing exhaust or left it plugged in?
No leave it plugged in and you won't get a code
@@bikesandbangsawesome. Did Moore Mafia want you to unplug after their ECU flash or did you keep it plugged in?
After the flash you can unplug it without needing a servo buddy or anything. Mine is still in there and plugged in. I suppose I could remove that anytime
Did you ever get the flash?
I'm thinking that might happen this week if my schedule works out, so stay tuned!
Did u put servo buddy ?
Nope
I’m just thinking about the money that’s down the drain
For what
@@Namedyr the catalytic converter you could have cored it prob got 300-1000
@@JeremyJohnson-gc6si what does cored mean, this is not my 1st language. Do someone wanna buy them? everyone seem to get rid of them :D
@@Namedyr google it company’s will pay lots of money for them
I hear u but that’s not exactly right. That small converter is probably worth 200 bucks at best. If he wants to cut that section of pipe out, he would have to have a new section welded on. Or he wouldn’t be able to put on a slip on exhaust and would need to buy a full exhaust. Both of those options would cost more than he would get from selling that catalytic converter. Hope that clears up any misunderstanding.
why are you using your clutch so much when you have a quick shifter lmao
I'm not a quick shifter guy. I always have it turned off except in some of our tutorial videos 👍
@@bikesandbangs weird, but I guess I’ll accept it
were you really laughing your ass off?