Thanks for your review! You mention they recommend 80amps to charge, but you can charge faster up to 170amps. How do I do that? Specific recommendations please. Also, how do I read the digital display to know how much power is left?
In order to charge you to higher rate you simply have to get a charger that's lithium iron phosphate compatible with a higher charge rate capacity. You can use the voltage on the batteries or you can use a battery shunt to get more accurate readings.
Great video as usual Jim. However I want to voice my frustration with something. Your channel should have well over 100k subs by now and your videos should be averaging in the 50-80k view range! Your information is very helpful, editing is spot on and content is always entertaining. I really want to see your channel grow! I’m going to like and share as many videos as possible to do my part. Let’s see where this thing goes!
Thanks Brandon. Sounds good to me. I'm glad you enjoy the videos and I really appreciate your enthusiasm at helping the channel grow. You have inspired me to speed up video production. I have some good ones coming up. Thanks again and happy camping. Jim
I have 3 of there HAWK MAX 24VOLT 202AH each running them in parallel for a 606AH 24VOLT system and I'm getting 584 usable AH out of mine. Other then missing 22AH everything seems to be working fine.
Great video! I’m almost there squeezing trigger...but I’m not confident how I can put the system together myself 😂 will it be in your plan to set it up with solar panels and all other stuff to complete the system? And show us what else to get and what to do with them??
Absolutely. These are plug and play batteries. I will be showing how to hook them up to solar and the RV very soon. I have other videos that demonstrate this but I will be doing it again with these particular batteries.
I believe a diy system can be 24 volt. You can buy 24 vdc lights, pumps, fridges, and inverters. Please show a fuse system for 24 volt circuits. You can use a24/12 converter for phone charging but everything else can run from 24 volts. Thanks
I checked into that. I cannot report any similar problems with my batteries but I will let you know if I notice any issues. Thanks for letting us all know. I'll keep an eye out for any issues like that. My cells appear perfect. Thanks for the comment and happy camping. Jim
I also have two of these. I bought one several months ago, which I liked. I bought a second last month to upgrade to 24 volts. Now they say their battery can no longer be hooked up in series, so no upgrade to 24 v. They want a 20% restocking fee to return it. Their customer service sucks!
I emailed these guys two days ago having problems with my our batteries no response. I wouldn't buy another battery from big battery if I were you. Customer service is the worst.
I am looking at getting one of these or just one 120 amp hour one. Only plan on running led lights, furnace once in a while, water pump and other 12 v stuff. I have a generator for microwave if I want it. I also have 200 watts solar panel system. Can I get by with one with 120 to 170 amp hours using this. I live in AZ so nights are not too cold when we camp
Yes you should be absolutely fine with one of these. it should have more than enough power to run everything that you need on your list. If you do decide to get one of these don't forget to put in the code word Adventure at checkout it'll save you about a hundred bucks. Good luck and happy camping. Jim
WHen I charge my battery only goes up to 13.0 I see in the pic the battery there shows 13.1 At the same time, the charger, that I bought from bigbattery won't switch to fully charge mode either. Any advice?
You can connect them in series. Go to Battery Evo and buy a $25 serial cable from them. I have two 12v 180Ah batteries(basically the same batteries except with used cells) from Battery Evo, hooked up in series working just fine with my 24v MPP all-in-one. Even the units with new cells are ok for series connection. So I don't really understand why Big Battery is stating no serial connection for their units. Especially since they assemble Battery Evo units in the same warehouse. th-cam.com/video/Mj4OtTLPcyc/w-d-xo.html
@@sanseiryu thanks for the response. When I talked to big Battery, they said they could be run at 24v but they wouldn't balance themselves when connected at 24v. That's kind of what I saw when connected to the 24v MPP solar, one Battery was above 12v but the second was in the 11v range so together they were below 24v and couldn't power the inverter. This was last year so maybe they figured something out since then.
@@trippinwithdon7233 Strange. My set up is with an MPP 24v with the two 12v 180aH Battery Evos in series. I did use a charger to fully charge each unit before connecting them to the inverter charger. I had no issues with the batteries each maintaining 13.3v during full operation, fluctuating within .1 volt between them. Even under a heavy load. For my system, a heavy load is around 800-900 watts. So I can see the voltages dropping down to 12.8v. but once the load comes down, turning off my wall ac, they steadily get back to over 13v no problem. Sorry you're having this problem. To get that answer from Big Battery doesn't make sense since they are just fine with their Evo batteries being in series.
Awesome review. I am curious about charging and decharging. Is it possible to run this battery in parallel with a much smaller 12v battery with an isolator to run a 2000 watt inverter from this battery? Any information will be much appreciated.
I'm not sure. Considering the both batteries have a different capacity you might run into problems when it comes to charging them. Discharging the owl battery with the inverter would work fine. Just not sure about charging it.
It is in the description of the video. But here is that information. ENTER CODE Adventure at checkout for 10% off everything Bigbattery website bigbattery.com/?ref=80 Owl Battery Seen In Video bigbattery.com/products/12v-owl-lifepo4-170ah-2-176kwh/?ref=80
@@fullmoonadventureclub Same company. In one of the videos of the factory tour, you will see batteries labeled Battery Evo being assembled along with Big Battery units.
UL 1973 a standard is for stationary applications and light electric rail. So no, Big Battery products are not "listed to" UL 1973 because it's a standard, not a list. And unless you're looking for insurance for your electrified railway, UL 1973 isn't much use to you. If you do have concerns about whether your homeowner or auto insurance will pay off if your house or car burns down with a lithium battery inside, you should ask them directly.
@@StringerNews1 UL engineers have said that UL1973 is the standard for house batteries in the RV market. Yes, 1973 was written for the rail industry originally, but in the last 3 years has had some modifications for all mobile use including RV, Marine, and heavy truck. The most important parts of 1973 include vibration, penetration, and crush testing which would happen in a vehicle that was in a collision. The last thing you want is your battery to go into some kind of thermal runaway right after you get hit. UL1973 approval lessens these concerns.
@@donwilson2382 what are the names of these "UL engineers"? I used to live near the UL HQ, if they exist, I probably know them. But I kinda doubt it. You see, houses are the province of civil engineering, and RVs are under mechanical engineering. Saying "house batteries in the RV market" is a non sequitur. They're different industries with different needs, and different rules and regulations. No professional engineer would not know that. It doesn't look like you understand what Underwriters Laboratories is, or the difference between various UL products. Being UL listed is not a UL standard, and UL approval is something completely different. And that's okay, because UL's customers are mainly manufacturers and insurance underwriters. I suspect that you're confusing UL with Consumer Reports, which is a NGO chartered for the benefit of consumers. In both cases, the name says it all.
@@StringerNews1 Oh...my...gosh...Did you really tell me I don't know the market because I used the term "House batteries" which is the term used throughout 100% of the RV market to differentiate the batteries for the living quarters from the battery that starts the engine on a motorhome?...really?...so I'm not a real, "professional" engineer despite doing it for a living over the last 20 years, working with electrical products that RVIA (that would be the Recreational Vehicle Industry Association) requires to be UL listed. Also, of course UL listing is only required for the OEMs to install and not the aftermarket, but the point is (in case you missed it) that someone who doesn't care how many batteries are sold verified that they are safe for intended use. I mean, you can buy a non-UL listed DVD player...but I wouldn't. And I'm not outing the engineer online, but if the initials LBF who is the principal engineer for Commercial & Industrial at UL, plus JB who is the PDE manager for Commercial & Industrial mean anything to you, then maybe you should just stop.
If the batteries capacity is 340 amp hours and if charged them at one hundred amps it would take around three and a half hours. Big battery recommends a charge amperage of 80 amps when charging these batteries so probably in the for 4 hour range in my case as I used 80 amps when I charged them.
@@fullmoonadventureclub where did you see the recommendation for charge current? I was looking at the website and spec sheet and only thing I see is max charge current of 175amps. I would like to use these but I am concerned that they provide 4 gauge cables but the max current is 175 amps. What do you recommend for cable size?
I believe you can upgrade their cable sizes. It all depends on how much current you're planning on charging them with and also the amount of power you plan on drawing from them for any given sustained amount of time. I'm afraid I'm driving right now but I would call the company and just ask to be on the safe side. I think I would go with a minimum of two gauge but again it really depends on your power needs.
Big Battery is the worse company after sale. All they do is sale, support is horrible, never responded to email, VM. We wait to chat with them for over 3 hours, but nobody pickup Never 👎 do business again. We have made terrible mistakes to buy their batteries
Well I haven't had to return a battery. But the battery themselves seem to be working pretty well in my opinion. But thanks for sharing your negative customer support experience, that's very important.
Thanks for your review! You mention they recommend 80amps to charge, but you can charge faster up to 170amps. How do I do that? Specific recommendations please. Also, how do I read the digital display to know how much power is left?
In order to charge you to higher rate you simply have to get a charger that's lithium iron phosphate compatible with a higher charge rate capacity. You can use the voltage on the batteries or you can use a battery shunt to get more accurate readings.
Great to see you Jim ! TAKE CARE..
Great video as usual Jim. However I want to voice my frustration with something. Your channel should have well over 100k subs by now and your videos should be averaging in the 50-80k view range! Your information is very helpful, editing is spot on and content is always entertaining. I really want to see your channel grow! I’m going to like and share as many videos as possible to do my part. Let’s see where this thing goes!
Thanks Brandon. Sounds good to me. I'm glad you enjoy the videos and I really appreciate your enthusiasm at helping the channel grow. You have inspired me to speed up video production. I have some good ones coming up. Thanks again and happy camping. Jim
Great review! I will probably be ordering soon with your discount code. When you did the heater test, what inverter did you use? Thanks!
I have 3 of there HAWK MAX 24VOLT 202AH each running them in parallel for a 606AH 24VOLT system and I'm getting 584 usable AH out of mine. Other then missing 22AH everything seems to be working fine.
Great video! I’m almost there squeezing trigger...but I’m not confident how I can put the system together myself 😂 will it be in your plan to set it up with solar panels and all other stuff to complete the system? And show us what else to get and what to do with them??
Absolutely. These are plug and play batteries. I will be showing how to hook them up to solar and the RV very soon. I have other videos that demonstrate this but I will be doing it again with these particular batteries.
@@fullmoonadventureclub
Oooo I’m looking forward to it! Thank you! ...gotta get my tax return filing done before the whole RV set up video from you!!
I believe a diy system can be 24 volt. You can buy 24 vdc lights, pumps, fridges, and inverters. Please show a fuse system for 24 volt circuits. You can use a24/12 converter for phone charging but everything else can run from 24 volts. Thanks
Will Prowse and others have been reporting battery leakage.
I checked into that. I cannot report any similar problems with my batteries but I will let you know if I notice any issues. Thanks for letting us all know. I'll keep an eye out for any issues like that. My cells appear perfect. Thanks for the comment and happy camping. Jim
No problems here own several
Do not always listen to Will🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
6 month update. I've fully cycled them at least a hundred times. Still working like new. Just FYI.
You can't mix old cells with new cells. Otherwise you are correct. They make great batteries.
I also have two of these. I bought one several months ago, which I liked. I bought a second last month to upgrade to 24 volts. Now they say their battery can no longer be hooked up in series, so no upgrade to 24 v. They want a 20% restocking fee to return it. Their customer service sucks!
I emailed these guys two days ago having problems with my our batteries no response. I wouldn't buy another battery from big battery if I were you. Customer service is the worst.
Love my 170amphr
How can I get them to send me one for my station in Caribbean
very bad company, return their battery and they keep promising refund but never seen it, have to call our CC to dispute it.
I am looking at getting one of these or just one 120 amp hour one. Only plan on running led lights, furnace once in a while, water pump and other 12 v stuff. I have a generator for microwave if I want it. I also have 200 watts solar panel system. Can I get by with one with 120 to 170 amp hours using this. I live in AZ so nights are not too cold when we camp
Yes you should be absolutely fine with one of these. it should have more than enough power to run everything that you need on your list. If you do decide to get one of these don't forget to put in the code word Adventure at checkout it'll save you about a hundred bucks. Good luck and happy camping. Jim
WHen I charge my battery only goes up to 13.0 I see in the pic the battery there shows 13.1 At the same time, the charger, that I bought from bigbattery won't switch to fully charge mode either. Any advice?
I have 2 of these trying to set up a 24v system. Learned too late that they aren't supported for 24v setup.
You can connect them in series. Go to Battery Evo and buy a $25 serial cable from them. I have two 12v 180Ah batteries(basically the same batteries except with used cells) from Battery Evo, hooked up in series working just fine with my 24v MPP all-in-one. Even the units with new cells are ok for series connection. So I don't really understand why Big Battery is stating no serial connection for their units. Especially since they assemble Battery Evo units in the same warehouse. th-cam.com/video/Mj4OtTLPcyc/w-d-xo.html
@@sanseiryu thanks for the response. When I talked to big Battery, they said they could be run at 24v but they wouldn't balance themselves when connected at 24v. That's kind of what I saw when connected to the 24v MPP solar, one Battery was above 12v but the second was in the 11v range so together they were below 24v and couldn't power the inverter. This was last year so maybe they figured something out since then.
@@trippinwithdon7233 Strange. My set up is with an MPP 24v with the two 12v 180aH Battery Evos in series. I did use a charger to fully charge each unit before connecting them to the inverter charger. I had no issues with the batteries each maintaining 13.3v during full operation, fluctuating within .1 volt between them. Even under a heavy load. For my system, a heavy load is around 800-900 watts. So I can see the voltages dropping down to 12.8v. but once the load comes down, turning off my wall ac, they steadily get back to over 13v no problem. Sorry you're having this problem.
To get that answer from Big Battery doesn't make sense since they are just fine with their Evo batteries being in series.
Thanks. It may be worth it to call them again. Thanks for the lead.
Awesome review. I am curious about charging and decharging. Is it possible to run this battery in parallel with a much smaller 12v battery with an isolator to run a 2000 watt inverter from this battery? Any information will be much appreciated.
I'm not sure. Considering the both batteries have a different capacity you might run into problems when it comes to charging them. Discharging the owl battery with the inverter would work fine. Just not sure about charging it.
How many can you connect all together
Probably 10. I don't know for sure.
Where is the link?
It is in the description of the video. But here is that information. ENTER CODE Adventure at checkout for 10% off everything
Bigbattery website
bigbattery.com/?ref=80
Owl Battery Seen In Video
bigbattery.com/products/12v-owl-lifepo4-170ah-2-176kwh/?ref=80
Nice video. what about the evo batterys they seem cheaper. Have you looked at them. Seem to be same company.
No but I will definitely take a look. Thank you for the comment.
@@fullmoonadventureclub Same company. In one of the videos of the factory tour, you will see batteries labeled Battery Evo being assembled along with Big Battery units.
UL1973 is the UL listing for Lithium battery storage in a mobile environment. Are these listed to UL1973?
I'm not sure about the UL specifications of this battery but I will check and report back. Thanks for the question.
UL 1973 a standard is for stationary applications and light electric rail. So no, Big Battery products are not "listed to" UL 1973 because it's a standard, not a list. And unless you're looking for insurance for your electrified railway, UL 1973 isn't much use to you. If you do have concerns about whether your homeowner or auto insurance will pay off if your house or car burns down with a lithium battery inside, you should ask them directly.
@@StringerNews1 UL engineers have said that UL1973 is the standard for house batteries in the RV market. Yes, 1973 was written for the rail industry originally, but in the last 3 years has had some modifications for all mobile use including RV, Marine, and heavy truck. The most important parts of 1973 include vibration, penetration, and crush testing which would happen in a vehicle that was in a collision. The last thing you want is your battery to go into some kind of thermal runaway right after you get hit. UL1973 approval lessens these concerns.
@@donwilson2382 what are the names of these "UL engineers"? I used to live near the UL HQ, if they exist, I probably know them. But I kinda doubt it. You see, houses are the province of civil engineering, and RVs are under mechanical engineering. Saying "house batteries in the RV market" is a non sequitur. They're different industries with different needs, and different rules and regulations. No professional engineer would not know that.
It doesn't look like you understand what Underwriters Laboratories is, or the difference between various UL products. Being UL listed is not a UL standard, and UL approval is something completely different. And that's okay, because UL's customers are mainly manufacturers and insurance underwriters. I suspect that you're confusing UL with Consumer Reports, which is a NGO chartered for the benefit of consumers. In both cases, the name says it all.
@@StringerNews1 Oh...my...gosh...Did you really tell me I don't know the market because I used the term "House batteries" which is the term used throughout 100% of the RV market to differentiate the batteries for the living quarters from the battery that starts the engine on a motorhome?...really?...so I'm not a real, "professional" engineer despite doing it for a living over the last 20 years, working with electrical products that RVIA (that would be the Recreational Vehicle Industry Association) requires to be UL listed. Also, of course UL listing is only required for the OEMs to install and not the aftermarket, but the point is (in case you missed it) that someone who doesn't care how many batteries are sold verified that they are safe for intended use. I mean, you can buy a non-UL listed DVD player...but I wouldn't. And I'm not outing the engineer online, but if the initials LBF who is the principal engineer for Commercial & Industrial at UL, plus JB who is the PDE manager for Commercial & Industrial mean anything to you, then maybe you should just stop.
How long did it take to charge the battery from 0 ? and at what amperage?
If the batteries capacity is 340 amp hours and if charged them at one hundred amps it would take around three and a half hours. Big battery recommends a charge amperage of 80 amps when charging these batteries so probably in the for 4 hour range in my case as I used 80 amps when I charged them.
@@fullmoonadventureclub where did you see the recommendation for charge current? I was looking at the website and spec sheet and only thing I see is max charge current of 175amps. I would like to use these but I am concerned that they provide 4 gauge cables but the max current is 175 amps. What do you recommend for cable size?
I believe you can upgrade their cable sizes. It all depends on how much current you're planning on charging them with and also the amount of power you plan on drawing from them for any given sustained amount of time. I'm afraid I'm driving right now but I would call the company and just ask to be on the safe side. I think I would go with a minimum of two gauge but again it really depends on your power needs.
no discount
Did you use the link or code word Adventure?
adventure does not exist
Thank you for the update. They are working on it. Should be up tomorrow.
Big Battery is the worse company after sale. All they do is sale, support is horrible, never responded to email, VM. We wait to chat with them for over 3 hours, but nobody pickup
Never 👎 do business again.
We have made terrible mistakes to buy their batteries
Well I haven't had to return a battery. But the battery themselves seem to be working pretty well in my opinion. But thanks for sharing your negative customer support experience, that's very important.