Yeah everything just works! Love it!!! I was using my welder the other day as well. Its a 240v harbor freight welder and 210amp if I remember right. Worked perfect!!!🤘
I have the 48 V husky battery installed in my Navitas club car. At first it worked OK, but now the battery management system has failed. I was able to make contact with someone a big battery and at first they were somewhat helpful, but now they are not responsive. I would expect a better customer service for such a large investment. If you have any advice or a better way to contact the company please let me know. Thanks in advance.
I don't hear much about the mule battery 24 volts like to know more about them I did purchase them I have received them I don't have enough information on them is it true you hook everything up and then turn your batteries in on or do you have to have them on and how do I indicate if they're fully charged or not
Awesome videos Joe. Question, If I use this same inverter (Growatt 12kw) as a UPS exactly the same as you, is the excess solar (6.5kw total I have for this inverter) I'm getting during the day after my batts (21kwh) are completely charged up while using solar, is that excess solar that's available after charging absorbing the loads on this load panel for the home during the day and reducing my demand on the grid and batteries ? If that solar is not being used maybe put it into another panel thru another inverter. My grid set up being like yours, after no solar available and batteries are discharged configuration. Hoping that I'm asking this right. If that is the case just wondering if I should split up my solar if all of it is not being used up 100% during the day after the batts are charged up and I still have loads on another load panel that I could be pumping some of that excess solar into with another inverter. Does that make sense?
Yeah it will charge batteries and any excess will power load on panel. Once battery is fully charged. All that solar will go towards your house keeping you off grid! So power as much as you can during the day for sure!
Nice video, I have a pair of Big Battery 24 volt hooked in series 178 amp hr 48 volt 5.3 kw. I bought this back in December 2020 cost about $3000. There new batteries are an improvement and cheaper. Nice that they are putting systems together. I'm using 2 3,000kw GroWatt inverters to power up most of my house, even a hybrid hot water heater. Looking to adding another battery. Thanks Joe
NICE!!! How are those batteries doing? Yeah the newer batteries seem to be great and YES cheaper!!! Are your inverters the spf3000tl? or which ones you using? Which battery you looking to add?
@@AveRage_Joe Hey Joe, I have the SPF 3000 TL When I put my system together Big Battery didn't offer a 48 volt battery. They're doing ok but would like to have more reserve backup.I only have 3800 watts in my array and designed it to expand if needed. Not sure which battery I would add at this point. We put our system in mainly as a emergency backup and to reduce our electric bill. Can run everything but our AC heat pump. Since we're on fixed income and 70 I don't know if we'll expand or not. It does what we intended it to do. Since we're in Indiana winter solar kinda sucks Additional batteries would be a plus. Pretty proud of what I have designed and installed. Everything has changed in 6 months. The system that you have would have been cheaper and easier to install. It took us a year just to save up for what we have. Enjoying the challenge of being self sufficient. Take care
Nice! Id love to test one of those out! Agree, more reserve is always nice. Im always working to build that up!!! Yeah winter here sucks as well. Id have a ground mounted solar array if the neighbor didnt have all the trees. So there up on the roof and I have to go there and clean them off all the time. Light snow is ok but when we start getting 6-12" at a time it gets old real quick! Yep, saving for things is key for sure as I have to do the same for most items in my system. All a learning and fun project for sure. Best of luck with your system if you stay or go bigger. Love hearing others systems working great and as intended!!! Thanks for sharing!
Hi... Thanks for your video’s .. I’m about to buy a 48 v husky and a 6000 split phase Growatt... after your test do u feel it’s ok to power water pump and electric water heater for emergency purposes.. thanks
Thanks for watching! I dont have either of those but Yeah should power those no prob. Im guesstimating 4500w for the water heater. The battery wont last to long at that rate but will work. Pump should be no issue.
Do you have to worry about radiation? I was buying a Tesla Powerwall and the installer was very specific about mounting points due to large amounts or radiation. And that was outside not inside like the Husky.
Hey Joe, what is your thoughts on mixed capacity LFP battery packs? Can we parallel a HSKY pack with an existing LFP pack to increase capacity? So an 18kW pack, and this 5.3kW HSKY
Charge time will depend of course. During this video I used a small charger at about 10amps and it takes around 10hrs. When I use it daily powering my house I use solar and charge around 40-50amps and thats around 2-3hrs!😀🤘
You betcha Im still running the husky! Have just over 235 cycles on it! I have it in parallel with some other batteries from big battery and they run my house! Yeah so the husky I think is getting a redisign and they are making version 2!
@@AveRage_Joe My generator is a 9000 V running voltage is 7250. And we have a box that if the power goes down I just plug it into a box that feeds the panel. Obviously we shut the main off on the panel. But it pretty much can run the whole house. If I get one of these big battery that you did the demo on, what size, we have a 200 amp panel, about 250sqft home?And do you have a problem with me asking you questions as far as what inverter to get and all of that stuff? Thanks for your help
Did you have to open up the battery to plug in the Bluetooth ? I have a Bluetooth scanner and I’m not showing any signal coming from the Husky 48 V battery
No I didnt open or plug anything into it. I happend to be tooling around on an old ipad I got from a family member and saw it in the bluetooth devices. I then downloaded the app and connected.
@@AveRage_Joe Thanks for the reply I have searched searched and searched my iPhone iPad and Bluetooth scanner and have no luck showing any additional Bluetooth devices when I’m in the garage turning the battery on I guess mine doesn’t have it even though the battery is only a month old the only odd thing is the barcode manufacture date says manufactured in April kind of odd. Thanks
Maybe leave the ipad out there for a while. I wanna say mine didnt show up at first either. Its been a while since I first did all the connecting ect..
@@AveRage_Joethat's very impressive I didn't know you could get that long of time out of 108ah is it because of it being a 48v I just won this 5000w hybrid inverter off eBay and it's a 48v inverter I'm trying to figure out the best & cheapest battery configuration for it
Im not 100% sure what makes something EMP proof but what I can tell you is the bms is in a metal box inside the metal battery box. I have a capacity test video where I open it up to take a peek inside if you wanna check that vid out, it may help.
Others make very informative videos that I watch if I'm suffering from insomnia. Your videos cover the same information, more or less, but the production quality and entertainment value are in a COMPLETELY different class. The whole "content creator" label gets used a little too freely and I get that everyone has their own style, but seeing the disparate ways videos are produced and presented gives some insight into why advertising and marketing can often be pretty expensive. Thanks for putting out truly interesting and entertaining content. :)
Thats Awesome!!! One day Ill have to get a 5th wheel or some type of camper to build out! Has to be more on the glamping side of things or the wifie wont go lol!!!
Joe, in trying to power a 600 max watt gadget, 24x7 for off grid use in HI with not much sun, I am considering big battery 48v 103 ah lithium battery with a Generac yanmar LW series 435cc to charge the batteries, along with an ATS. What are your thoughts. Is it doable or too much.
Im not familiar with gennys so I ask if it can charge 48v DC? If not you would need a 48vdc charger to plug into your genny. If the gadget runs at 600w then you could see over 8hrs run time. If it actually runs at a lesser wattage and has a "max" of 600w then run time should be more. Edit: forgot to add you would want a 20amp + charger to minimize gennerator load or runtime. 20amp charge would take 5hrs if battery was dead for example.
Can you share all your settings that you are using on the growatt inverter to work with the bigbattery? I have the same inverter but it is the newer one and I have two (Lama) bigbatteries. I can't get them to charge over 50 volts.
The Lama is a little diff then the husky. Its a 14s battery so max charge is "51.1v". Id set the max voltage to 49.5v or so and then float to 47.5ish. Low cutoff is 40v so Id set it around 43v.🤘
@@EricLundgrenCEO sorry, I try not to buy from the USA directly, it's always more trouble than it's worth. The courier's and customs tend to make it more complex than importing from other markets as a consumer. As for buying a container, that's more than I would be willing to risk myself!
Question: I have 2 of these, and mine peak out at 54V's. I have a Growatt 6KW inverter. Do you think it's a setting that isn't allowing for a complete charge? Or is 54V completely charged? Thank you.
Setting 19 is 57.4v, 20 is 57.2v and 21 is inverter cutoff of 43. I run solar, battery utility or SBU in option 1. Option 14 is solar only for recharge. Only thing I change from time to time when we have zero sun is option 1 to utlility. Ill also use that setting if a big storm is expected to roll through. Ill keep it topped off just incase the grid goes down.🤘
@@AveRage_Joe From what I've gathered from a few forum threads, those bulk and float voltages are way too high (especially the float) for lifepo4 cells. I have this exact battery and I'm using 54V bulk and 53.5V float.
You are 100% correct! Lower is better. I just left the settings in there from my li-ion cells and havent changed them. I actually have mine connected with my nmc pack and plan to lower the voltage a smidge!😀🤘
@@AveRage_Joe thanks. BTW a lot of dyi don't all have your skis so that all in one kits are a real saver and also far more safe for the less than average dyi. I like the mix you present. I'd love to hear what you know or think (experience) of the Gyll now EG4 48V rack batteries. Price point can't be beat. BTW utilities may offer UFI for BB with or without solar. They want to avoid the duck curve and the BB is the answer for them.
Why did you choose 57.2V as the charge limit instead of the BigBattery 58.8v on the spec sheet? I set mine at 56.5v based on comments on some of the forums, but I don't know what the best number is because there are so many opinions! Also, what did set the bulk charge voltage at? I am at 56.5 once again based on forum comments, but I am not sure what or why to pick a higher voltage.
Joe, you gotta do a teardown! I'm super interested in that BMS, I think it is a relay based bms. I think that's what I glimpsed at, the black box in the inside next to the cells
Yeah I plan to in a future video but am in the middle of changing some stuff around. Currently I have 18 245w panels and 6 235w panels. Those come down and into fuses, then combine into a circuit breaker and surge arrestor and go into the inverter since it has 2 solar charge controllers built in. From there I power my entire house except my stove, dryer and AC since my battery is to small to run those items for very long.
I have this battery and the 6k growatt but it won't stay charged. It was fully charged last night and had the inverter on standby mode so nothing was running. This morning it won't come on. We have used the battery once. Any thoughts?
@@AveRage_JoeMotorhome: 1200 watts of solar panels connected to Growatt. Husky battery. Growatt replaced the onboard generator and is connected to the rv transfer switch. Last night we had the AC output turned off (battery was charged) and this morning it is dead. We are getting voltage from panels.
You had inverter on standby mode(utility first in settings) which is passthrough from grid or shore power? If so did you have the main input breaker turned on? If it wasnt turned on then you would have been in off-grid mode which would drain battery. What are your settings on the inverter? Maybe email me, email is in description box.
Super interessant.. Ich hab eine Frage zu den anderson Steckern Ich nutze die schon sehr lange.. Gibst du ein wenig fett oder ähnliches auf die Kontakte?. Sie sind super aber irgendwie halten sie bei mir nicht lange..
@@AveRage_Joe ich nutze sie für meine Verbraucher... Und stecke sie täglich mehrmals zusammen und auseinander.. Irgendwann ist der Kontakt so schlecht, das sie heiß werden
Ahh ok, Yeah if they are getting hot its either they are worn out from all the removing/inserting or maybe the spring under the terminal. Maybe see if you can remove one terminal at a time and bend the spring up to give it....more spring pressure!
Hi Joe - I have 3 of these Husky batteries for the past 6 months in my home backup system and watching this video I learned for the first time that the Husky BMS has built in Bluetooth for monitoring. I tried scanning for a Bluetooth signal but no luck. What app are you using to connect to the Husky Bluetooth? Keep up the great job Joe. You are a wealth of info for the rest of us average Joes out there.
NICE!!!! Pretty awesome setup you have! So the app I used was xiaoxiang bms app from the playstore or IOS. Bigbattery is developing there app but its not complete yet. Having said that I am told that not all batteries have the bluetooth enabled which explains others not being able to find or connect. I will say tho that the first time I connected, I did it with an old ipad and it didnt show right away. Let me know if yours works ends up working.💥🤘
@@AveRage_Joe I also have the Husky 48 V battery along with the app and it does not show up in the app or my scanner that I have on my iPhone also great videos I love what you’re doing here thanks for any information you can give me to get this Bluetooth hooked to the app.
Fan freaking tastic! I have the exact same inverter and battery for our off grid cabin and it is amazing. Thank you for the videos and your insight Joe!
I have the HSKY with growatt. I charged two days in a row from utility with no problem . On the third day got fault code 19 on growatt (battery not connected) when it is def. connected and none of the online suggestions worked
Which growatt do you have? Same as mine or 6kw? Only thing I could think of is if the bms turned the discharge port off. Obvi turn off both inverter and battery and turn back on unless you tried that. Could also try changing the inverter bulk charge a smidge lower. Lmk
@@AveRage_Joe You can try to reset the BMS by unplugging/plugging in the balance leads connector. Will Prouse had to do that to get his unit to operate.
I own a 12V version of the Big Battery box and so far it as been outstanding. It was a perfect add on for my Inergy Apex unit that Inergy still can't seem to provide added batteries for.
@@AveRage_Joe Last I saw they were still on preorder after being announced alongside the Flex unit. Keep in mind I bought the Apex unit 2 yeard ago for which they promised added batteries that never came. I was less than happy about it. The inverter system works great though. The Flex should be a great product, just peeved about my experience some cause I ended up buying a tweener product.
Eeeeek, its been a few years. I do remember getting it to work after I changed to the US server AND getting it to "sync" from my phone. After that I was able to login from pc. Are you having issues?
Ok, just ordered a Husky. Hope it’s all you indicate. Will’s kinda down on BB, but his probs were with a prior generation, and the husky’s layout seems to have addressed the crushed cell concern
Nice! It is everything I said. If you havent seen the last vid powering my house, it was great!!! Will is up and down on many things! I think most of his units were not production units. I could be wrong tho. I havent seen or heard any issues with crushed cells but I dont watch many of his videos anymore. Cells have foam cushion around all sides of the 4 grouped cells which is great. I literally use/cycle this Husky battery every single day and have zero issues with it. Great battery for sure!🤘
Now for a noob question. The charger is set at 58.8 volts I am holding it to around 30 amps. The BMS started throwing single cell over voltage errors and shutting down charging at about 55 volts total. Is this normal? I have stopped charging for now. Any Advice will be welcome. This is my first LifePO4 foray
Another enjoyable and informative video - thank you! Boy things have come a long way compared to even 3 years ago as far as 'off the shelf' stuff / kits. However, you can still same raw $ on larger battery banks if you willing to do the work.
Thanks Kenneth! Appreciate the comment! I couldnt agree moar from 3 years ago. Crazy isnt it! Yeah for sure can still diy with larger cells. I have some and building right meow. Ordered before I received the Husky battery! Still tho, cant beat what you get with this complete battery.🤘
@@AveRage_Joe Can you do a video on creating a mobile solar power station with your leftover 18650's? I am thinking of doing a setup for our teardrop camper and have it power our window unit ac and charge off a solar panel when traveling or when parked. I was thinking of going 4s and like 40p but don't know if it is bad to make a battery that big or better to make smaller packs in parallel. I will likely just get a 1500w pure sine wave inverter and not really worried about building it into a case with USB ports or 12v lighter plugs. Major concerns are pack cooling and BMS or BMS's if doing multiple packs.
Possibly! Do you know the watts on the AC unit. Not sure a 1500w inverter will kick it over. Do you have cells meow or still processing or havent started and no cells yet. Also 12v is tricky to do as the voltages wont match the inverter(usually). If you dont have cells yet Id go lifepo4 for sure since they will match. Let me know!🤘
Hey Joe. Im new to the solar game and learning a lot...thanks for sharing you wealth of knowledge about Big Battery and solar in general. One question that always bother me is that no one really addresses....the battery charging while discharging question (see the last question). I heard you say in this video you discharge to something like 40% capacity and then recharge, are you recharging while your discharging? It almost seems pointless to turn off power usage until you've recharged the battery....sorta defeats the purpose IMHO. Does it harm the battery life cycles charging while discharging??? Thanks Joe!
Thanks for watching! So what I mean by discharging to a % is at night or when the sun isnt out. During the morning you are recharging and using battery and solar at the same time. Once battery is charged my system (or most systems) will stop charging and use solar to power everything until the sun goes down and the cycle restarts. Does that help answer your question?
@@AveRage_Joe Thanks for you fast reply. You did answer my question...Thanks! Here's my situation (for now) I have 6, 100 watt RichSolar panels connected to a Bluetti AC200P and getting nearly 600 watts of solar power. Leaving solar connected 24/7 to the AC200P should be just fine, but I was wondering if the life cycle will be decreased? I really want a mobile system that I can take to an off-grid cabin but need more power maybe 10-12 KWH enough to run a small AC and some appliances. Can you recommend a system? Thanks Joe!
Having the solar connected to the ac200p all the time is just fine. It has a controller built in to handle the battery when it needs charged ect... As far as a moble system, did you want something to leave at the cabin or actually take with back and forth kinda thing?
AveRage Joe my low voltage cutoffs are 48 or below. Since there SOC chart shows battery is basically dead at 50? I always feel like I’m not getting full capacity. The new Condor I have has a display and it even shows I don’t! Full charge 141 ah. When advertised as 170.
Ahhhhh Ok so your going off the SOC meter? And the batteties dont shut off? Like the bms doesnt cut power? If so then those readings on the meter are a fairly close in accuracy however, 50% on a LiFePO4 battery is were it "grunts" and will hold thats same voltage for quite a while. In saying that you should set your low cutoff on the inverter to 46v since the low side on your battery is 43v.
Ok let me know if this is correct....so on the bms its showing 141ah? If so that is ok as that number will recalibrate depending on your last discharge. If your low voltage was set a little lower you would discharge a little more and that number would reflect the most recient discharge!
What are your thoughts on the possibility of leaking cells as noticed by Will Prowse? It was suggested by Will to store this on it's back just in case the cells decide to leak and to also perhaps prevent issues with all weight of the cells stacked on top of each other if stored virtically. What are your thoughts? Also, how many of these 100amp hour batteries would it take to use this battery exclusively for powering your entire house in the average 24 hour cycle with charging from PV's during the day?
From what I understand Wills battery was not a production unit at the time and some cells had a manufacture defect. Which was rectified quickly. I guess they found just a few leaky cells out of over 10,000. They dont use those cells anymore and are different then the cells in this particular battery. I guess BB sent Will 2 more batteries (in that video) that were production units but he never opened them up to show the fixes. I seriously have had zero issues with mine but I actually use it everyday. This one has "shelves" holding 4 cells up so there are 4 compartments so the weight of the upper cells are not a problem. I am not scared to use the battery standing up as its intended. No harm in putting it on the side either as many use for golf carts! For my house at this current moment I still have the stove, dryer and AC on a separate subpanel supplied by the grid. Everything else is off grid 24/7 unless we have no sun. I have this husky battery connected to my old diy powerwall which is around 200ah. If I had 4 Husky units alone I believe I could add the other items (stove ect...) and be good or super close! I do have solar so that always helps for sure!!! Of course everyones home and or kwh use is different.
@@AveRage_Joe Here's one of the emerging residential flow battery makers that you might want to check out: voltstorage.com/en/ Looks a bit like a Tesla Powerwall.
Hi Joe , that's a ripper system i love the plug play there batteries system have and adding batteries, yeah cell 16 is a bummer but easy enough to replace it anyway. We have to remember mass production there producing cells like (tictax) lollies . A Diy's dream to go green, BOOM great vid from oz
Thanks Man! Yeah I like how easy there systems can go together! Makes it super easy for sure! I dont see an issue with cell 16 as it has over 103ah. I mentioned in a few other comments that there is always a weak cell and strong cell in every multicell battery pack. This one just happens to be cell 16. Plus in real world applications we dont drain the battery down to 0% SOC. But yes 100% a DIYers dream cause I know we ALL say sometimes...I wish I could just buy a battery and just use it! Thanks for watching, Much appreciated!!!🤘💥
Patrick beat me to it but yes, they are 3000-4000 cycles which is cycling it every day for 8-10 years!! After that they are not dead or done, they should have like 80% of capacity left!!😵🤘
@@AveRage_Joe only just beat you , yes I was going to add more info but left that for you mate. This is a ripper system I hope someone take this onboard in Australia. 100amp 12v lifepo4 battery are getting made here but nothing like this yet. I'm loven it looking forward to more
Hm, if it was my battery, I would be a bit disturbed and worried about this cell n° 16 which arrives at 2.5V with such a voltage difference compared to other cells :/
I actually didnt think it was to bad as there is always a weak and strong cell especially at the low cutoff voltage. You should see my powerwall, Im pretty sure its way worse lol. In normal usage tho you wont go down that far.😆🤘
Thank you for letting me know! I sent them an email and let them know its not working for kits and waiting for a reply. Again thanks for letting me know!💥🤘
At 6:49 you appear to be using two different apps. What's on the left (obviously xiaoxiang's product, but is it Android or W10), and what's on the right? Please keep up the great vids. I'm learning a tremendous amount from you.
Thanks Mate! Yep Jason beat me to it. I was using an old ipad on the left with the xiaoxang app(also works on android). The right was the victron smart shunt app on android!🤘
1,Amp hr. Being known throughout is good . 2. Calibrate the BMS so we can see percentage of discharge . 3. The battery should be charged at 3.65 top charge for 1-2 hrs. To top ballance
Whats to wonder, There is always a weak cell and strong cell in a all multi cell battery packs. No cell is exactly like the other. Nothing new here at all. Under normal usage you dont bring the battery down that far. I think it handled great!
@@AveRage_Joe Not going to be possible how I wanted it to be, The project of connecting all my SLA's in parallel to build a "buffer" battery is not going to be able to be connected into my 12v UPS (it is a CyberPower 425VA). The reason is that the negative battery terminal is connected to the inverter negative, which is then switched between Hot and Neutral, so that is not going to be any sort of code compliant if I were to have the negative connected directly to ground. To summarize, you want Neutral and Ground to be the same potential but NOT negative and Ground. But I guess the UPS will just have to be left as it is just using its internal 3.6Ah battery
Does your Bms have a Bluetooth module connected to the comm port by the balance port? Mine doesn't so I'm not sure what I've been trying to connect to lol. Also is it just one of these type modules or something proprietary batteryhookup.com/products/bluetooth-module-for-battery-hookup-bms ?
I dont think so at all especially for draining it down to 0% Every multi cell battery pack has a weak cell and a strong cell. No 2 cells are exactly alike. Each test was over 103ah!💥🤘
It has over the 103ah tho. I dont think there is anything wrong with it. You and I both know that no 2 cells are alike and there is always a weak cell and strong cell in every multi cell battery pack! Plus we never typically drain a battery down to 0% SOC!💥🤘
Sorry Joe just can't do it your no longer a diy channel. It seems you want to be a salesman. I will still watch your older stuff. Good luck an best wishes with your endeavors.
@@MikeSmith-ig6iw it's all about content, young channels are developing a style and a following, that will aid in a channels growth. Near as I can tell when a diyer starts working on their idea, studying and learning as they go. They may research similar projects notably those done by other DIYers in many different formats. This version is all theirs, even if it is similar to other diyers results. Whether they choose to create "quick and simple" or "detailed long term" project documentation oftentimes is about having the equipment and the time. If video is the choice, you'll see a "review", a "I did it" or a "this is how I did it", very different formats for different audiences. Some topics are covered by a few short videos, covering several topics over time while projects can require dozens of incremental videos. Subscribers do not want to see the same thing over and over, and in time creators must add new 'flavors' to the channel. If this last Big battery episode was first, it might have easily been seen as a sell out. Joe's channel is mostly about DIY Power Walling and building them. Big block LiFePo4 cell based systems are the current fervor now that LiFePo4 cell costs are dropping like a rock. Joe has at least 4 videos on building a LiFePo4 based Power Wall. I don't think I could stand another "buss bar" fabrication video. Remember a Power Wall it is a system, a collection of sub components, please note this system combines two styles (of many) energy storage. I can't wait to see new tech will come along in this field of DIY R&D. 👍👍👍 🤔💭💣💥
@@MikeSmith-ig6iw ok, I apologize for the novella, but you may have noted, that I also thought this video was more like an ad. I don't dump a creator if a video is unlikable, I just don't like and comment why. Again 👍
The look on his face when catching the T-shirt....Priceless.. Good Sports will definitely consider this company.
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Your right I have the 10 k we love it I run my whole home with it and there's days I will with my welder on and my welders is a 200-amp machine
Yeah everything just works! Love it!!! I was using my welder the other day as well. Its a 240v harbor freight welder and 210amp if I remember right. Worked perfect!!!🤘
I have the 48 V husky battery installed in my Navitas club car. At first it worked OK, but now the battery management system has failed. I was able to make contact with someone a big battery and at first they were somewhat helpful, but now they are not responsive. I would expect a better customer service for such a large investment. If you have any advice or a better way to contact the company please let me know. Thanks in advance.
They have a 10yr warrenty so keep at it if you havent heard. Was wondering what happend with yours?
Hey what’s the zero load consumption? I couldn’t find it on there specifications manual.
I don't hear much about the mule battery 24 volts like to know more about them I did purchase them I have received them I don't have enough information on them is it true you hook everything up and then turn your batteries in on or do you have to have them on and how do I indicate if they're fully charged or not
Awesome videos Joe. Question, If I use this same inverter (Growatt 12kw) as a UPS exactly the same as you, is the excess solar (6.5kw total I have for this inverter) I'm getting during the day after my batts (21kwh) are completely charged up while using solar, is that excess solar that's available after charging absorbing the loads on this load panel for the home during the day and reducing my demand on the grid and batteries ? If that solar is not being used maybe put it into another panel thru another inverter. My grid set up being like yours, after no solar available and batteries are discharged configuration. Hoping that I'm asking this right. If that is the case just wondering if I should split up my solar if all of it is not being used up 100% during the day after the batts are charged up and I still have loads on another load panel that I could be pumping some of that excess solar into with another inverter. Does that make sense?
Yeah it will charge batteries and any excess will power load on panel. Once battery is fully charged. All that solar will go towards your house keeping you off grid! So power as much as you can during the day for sure!
Hey Joe, I bought 2 huskys last month because of you. Please tell me how you got the Xiao app to work on your Galaxy?
Nice video, I have a pair of Big Battery 24 volt hooked in series 178 amp hr 48 volt 5.3 kw. I bought this back in December 2020 cost about $3000. There new batteries are an improvement and cheaper. Nice that they are putting systems together. I'm using 2 3,000kw GroWatt inverters to power up most of my house, even a hybrid hot water heater. Looking to adding another battery.
Thanks Joe
NICE!!! How are those batteries doing? Yeah the newer batteries seem to be great and YES cheaper!!! Are your inverters the spf3000tl? or which ones you using? Which battery you looking to add?
@@AveRage_Joe Hey Joe, I have the SPF 3000 TL When I put my system together Big Battery didn't offer a 48 volt battery. They're doing ok but would like to have more reserve backup.I only have 3800 watts in my array and designed it to expand if needed. Not sure which battery I would add at this point. We put our system in mainly as a emergency backup and to reduce our electric bill. Can run everything but our AC heat pump. Since we're on fixed income and 70 I don't know if we'll expand or not. It does what we intended it to do. Since we're in Indiana winter solar kinda sucks
Additional batteries would be a plus. Pretty proud of what I have designed and installed. Everything has changed in 6 months. The system that you have would have been cheaper and easier to install. It took us a year just to save up for what we have. Enjoying the challenge of being self sufficient.
Take care
Nice! Id love to test one of those out! Agree, more reserve is always nice. Im always working to build that up!!! Yeah winter here sucks as well. Id have a ground mounted solar array if the neighbor didnt have all the trees. So there up on the roof and I have to go there and clean them off all the time. Light snow is ok but when we start getting 6-12" at a time it gets old real quick! Yep, saving for things is key for sure as I have to do the same for most items in my system. All a learning and fun project for sure. Best of luck with your system if you stay or go bigger. Love hearing others systems working great and as intended!!! Thanks for sharing!
Hi... Thanks for your video’s .. I’m about to buy a 48 v husky and a 6000 split phase Growatt... after your test do u feel it’s ok to power water pump and electric water heater for emergency purposes.. thanks
Thanks for watching! I dont have either of those but Yeah should power those no prob. Im guesstimating 4500w for the water heater. The battery wont last to long at that rate but will work. Pump should be no issue.
You can take a break now you have earned it.
😆🤘 Id love nothing moar to take a break but there is to much to do!!!😵😆💥🤘
Do you have to worry about radiation? I was buying a Tesla Powerwall and the installer was very specific about mounting points due to large amounts or radiation. And that was outside not inside like the Husky.
Have never heard of that before🤷♂️
Hey Joe, what is your thoughts on mixed capacity LFP battery packs? Can we parallel a HSKY pack with an existing LFP pack to increase capacity?
So an 18kW pack, and this 5.3kW HSKY
Hmm, ok good job . You touched on all items , Good Job
Thanks! Appreciate that!!!🤘
Is there a good, easy, battery load tester out there for the Husky 48V?
So what was the charge time? How long did the charge cycle take to go from 46v to 58v? Did you have charger or tap into PV? Thanks for sharing.
Charge time will depend of course. During this video I used a small charger at about 10amps and it takes around 10hrs. When I use it daily powering my house I use solar and charge around 40-50amps and thats around 2-3hrs!😀🤘
Good work Average Joe.
Just received and tested my Growatt 12kw LF inverter.. sweet unit. Yep 👍
Appreciate your work and efforts!
Thank you
✌️PT
Thanks Man, Appreciate that! Hell yeah you are going to love it!!!💥🤘
Are you still running the 48v husky? I've been trying to find one for a while but no luck. Any ideas where to buy one?
You betcha Im still running the husky! Have just over 235 cycles on it! I have it in parallel with some other batteries from big battery and they run my house!
Yeah so the husky I think is getting a redisign and they are making version 2!
Can you re- charge the battery pack with a gas generator if the power doesn’t come back on or you don’t have solar panel set up yet? Thanks
If the generator is connected to an inverter yes as I dont think there are many gennys that supply 48v.
@@AveRage_Joe My generator is a 9000 V running voltage is 7250. And we have a box that if the power goes down I just plug it into a box that feeds the panel. Obviously we shut the main off on the panel. But it pretty much can run the whole house. If I get one of these big battery that you did the demo on, what size, we have a 200 amp panel, about 250sqft home?And do you have a problem with me asking you questions as far as what inverter to get and all of that stuff? Thanks for your help
So how many days does this battery run your house?
Did you have to open up the battery to plug in the Bluetooth ? I have a Bluetooth scanner and I’m not showing any signal coming from the Husky 48 V battery
No I didnt open or plug anything into it. I happend to be tooling around on an old ipad I got from a family member and saw it in the bluetooth devices. I then downloaded the app and connected.
@@AveRage_Joe Thanks for the reply I have searched searched and searched my iPhone iPad and Bluetooth scanner and have no luck showing any additional Bluetooth devices when I’m in the garage turning the battery on I guess mine doesn’t have it even though the battery is only a month old the only odd thing is the barcode manufacture date says manufactured in April kind of odd. Thanks
Maybe leave the ipad out there for a while. I wanna say mine didnt show up at first either. Its been a while since I first did all the connecting ect..
I guess my only question is how many of those husky 48 volt 103 amp hour batteries are you using on ur solar or to run ur house ? Just one or ??
Yeah was only using one!🤘
@@AveRage_Joethat's very impressive I didn't know you could get that long of time out of 108ah is it because of it being a 48v I just won this 5000w hybrid inverter off eBay and it's a 48v inverter I'm trying to figure out the best & cheapest battery configuration for it
So do all of their BMS units have bluetooth? I'm still considering a pair of their 24V hawk batteries and that would be a value add for sure.
I havent tested the Hawk batteries yet so I cant say for sure! I do agree tho, a bluetooth app ads value!!!🤘
Is the BMS EMP protected ?, how would you find that out?
Im not 100% sure what makes something EMP proof but what I can tell you is the bms is in a metal box inside the metal battery box. I have a capacity test video where I open it up to take a peek inside if you wanna check that vid out, it may help.
Hi what is the cost of one of those batteries
HOWdy A-J,
Thanks for the REVIEW
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Others make very informative videos that I watch if I'm suffering from insomnia. Your videos cover the same information, more or less, but the production quality and entertainment value are in a COMPLETELY different class. The whole "content creator" label gets used a little too freely and I get that everyone has their own style, but seeing the disparate ways videos are produced and presented gives some insight into why advertising and marketing can often be pretty expensive. Thanks for putting out truly interesting and entertaining content. :)
Thanks Jason! I really appreciate that!🤘
I just bought 3 202a 24v big batteries for my rig. Can’t wait to get them and my inverters installed.
Nice!!! What rig you installing it all in?😀🤘
1989 model 15 Eagle charter bus I converted. Two 24v3k70a Vic’s for split 240v. I think there’s a lot of value in big batteries.
Thats Awesome!!! One day Ill have to get a 5th wheel or some type of camper to build out! Has to be more on the glamping side of things or the wifie wont go lol!!!
Check ours out on IG Rollin_homies. Is pretty “glampy” 😂
what app gave you the different cell voltages?
Joe, in trying to power a 600 max watt gadget, 24x7 for off grid use in HI with not much sun, I am considering big battery 48v 103 ah lithium battery with a Generac yanmar LW series 435cc to charge the batteries, along with an ATS. What are your thoughts. Is it doable or too much.
Im not familiar with gennys so I ask if it can charge 48v DC? If not you would need a 48vdc charger to plug into your genny. If the gadget runs at 600w then you could see over 8hrs run time. If it actually runs at a lesser wattage and has a "max" of 600w then run time should be more.
Edit: forgot to add you would want a 20amp + charger to minimize gennerator load or runtime. 20amp charge would take 5hrs if battery was dead for example.
@@AveRage_Joe thank you Joe. Good info.
Can you share all your settings that you are using on the growatt inverter to work with the bigbattery? I have the same inverter but it is the newer one and I have two (Lama) bigbatteries. I can't get them to charge over 50 volts.
The Lama is a little diff then the husky. Its a 14s battery so max charge is "51.1v". Id set the max voltage to 49.5v or so and then float to 47.5ish. Low cutoff is 40v so Id set it around 43v.🤘
I wish there was an equivalent of Big Battery in the UK.
Actually, Big Battery, if you want to launch here, get in touch!
There you GO!!!!! Wouldnt that be AWESOME!!!!😆🤘
Bob H: Happy to supply anywhere in the world by the container. Contact Sales@BigBattery.com and reference AveRage Joe for a huge discount. : )
@@EricLundgrenCEO sorry, I try not to buy from the USA directly, it's always more trouble than it's worth. The courier's and customs tend to make it more complex than importing from other markets as a consumer.
As for buying a container, that's more than I would be willing to risk myself!
Question: I have 2 of these, and mine peak out at 54V's. I have a Growatt 6KW inverter. Do you think it's a setting that isn't allowing for a complete charge? Or is 54V completely charged? Thank you.
What is the bulk and float set at on inverter?
@@AveRage_Joe I will respond once I go back to the cabin. Maybe this weekend.
Sounds good!
@@AveRage_Joe Hello: Here are my settings. (5) US2, (19) 58.4, (20) 58.4, and (21) is 40. Thank you for any help.
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Well Thanks! Appreciate that!💥🤘
@@AveRage_Joe so many boring old people who talk about solar haha!
What settings are you using on the Growatt for Programs 19, 20, 21? Are you running in Solar First mode?
Setting 19 is 57.4v, 20 is 57.2v and 21 is inverter cutoff of 43. I run solar, battery utility or SBU in option 1. Option 14 is solar only for recharge. Only thing I change from time to time when we have zero sun is option 1 to utlility. Ill also use that setting if a big storm is expected to roll through. Ill keep it topped off just incase the grid goes down.🤘
@@AveRage_Joe From what I've gathered from a few forum threads, those bulk and float voltages are way too high (especially the float) for lifepo4 cells. I have this exact battery and I'm using 54V bulk and 53.5V float.
You are 100% correct! Lower is better. I just left the settings in there from my li-ion cells and havent changed them. I actually have mine connected with my nmc pack and plan to lower the voltage a smidge!😀🤘
@@AveRage_Joe it sounds like a float voltage above 3.4V/cell is damaging
Do you know if this battery is UL listed? Maybe Eric L can chime in. UL listed needed for grid tied by almost all utilities.
No I dont think it is UL listed but they are releasing a UL listed battery here real soon! 🤘
@@AveRage_Joe thanks. BTW a lot of dyi don't all have your skis so that all in one kits are a real saver and also far more safe for the less than average dyi. I like the mix you present.
I'd love to hear what you know or think (experience) of the Gyll now EG4 48V rack batteries. Price point can't be beat. BTW utilities may offer UFI for BB with or without solar. They want to avoid the duck curve and the BB is the answer for them.
Why did you choose 57.2V as the charge limit instead of the BigBattery 58.8v on the spec sheet? I set mine at 56.5v based on comments on some of the forums, but I don't know what the best number is because there are so many opinions! Also, what did set the bulk charge voltage at? I am at 56.5 once again based on forum comments, but I am not sure what or why to pick a higher voltage.
My bulk is set at 54V based on some forum posts
Joe, you gotta do a teardown! I'm super interested in that BMS, I think it is a relay based bms. I think that's what I glimpsed at, the black box in the inside next to the cells
Oh you know Im gonna do a tear down video lol!!! Yeah the bms most likely has the relay/contactor. The app says jbd for brand!😆🤘
We'll Never Tell!... But AveRage Joe will probably show you anyways.. haha : )
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Can you go over your solar system and what you power with it. I’m beginner. Thanks
Yeah I plan to in a future video but am in the middle of changing some stuff around. Currently I have 18 245w panels and 6 235w panels. Those come down and into fuses, then combine into a circuit breaker and surge arrestor and go into the inverter since it has 2 solar charge controllers built in. From there I power my entire house except my stove, dryer and AC since my battery is to small to run those items for very long.
@@AveRage_Joe awesome thanks for the insight
I have this battery and the 6k growatt but it won't stay charged. It was fully charged last night and had the inverter on standby mode so nothing was running. This morning it won't come on. We have used the battery once. Any thoughts?
Ill need to know more about your settings and how everything is hooked up.
@@AveRage_JoeMotorhome: 1200 watts of solar panels connected to Growatt. Husky battery. Growatt replaced the onboard generator and is connected to the rv transfer switch. Last night we had the AC output turned off (battery was charged) and this morning it is dead. We are getting voltage from panels.
You had inverter on standby mode(utility first in settings) which is passthrough from grid or shore power? If so did you have the main input breaker turned on? If it wasnt turned on then you would have been in off-grid mode which would drain battery.
What are your settings on the inverter? Maybe email me, email is in description box.
Question; how much solar do you have charging your batteries?
I have a little under 6kw(18 245w panels and 6 235w panels. With my roof pitch I only see max of 5kw if batteries are low.
Super interessant.. Ich hab eine Frage zu den anderson Steckern
Ich nutze die schon sehr lange.. Gibst du ein wenig fett oder ähnliches auf die Kontakte?. Sie sind super aber irgendwie halten sie bei mir nicht lange..
Ive been using them for years and dont have any issues. I dont put anything on them. What is the issue with yours?
@@AveRage_Joe ich nutze sie für meine Verbraucher... Und stecke sie täglich mehrmals zusammen und auseinander.. Irgendwann ist der Kontakt so schlecht, das sie heiß werden
Ahh ok, Yeah if they are getting hot its either they are worn out from all the removing/inserting or maybe the spring under the terminal. Maybe see if you can remove one terminal at a time and bend the spring up to give it....more spring pressure!
@@AveRage_Joe hm okay gute Idee.. Das könnte sein 😎. Wenn sie heiß waren ist die Feder natürlich nicht mehr gut 🤐
Hi Joe - I have 3 of these Husky batteries for the past 6 months in my home backup system and watching this video I learned for the first time that the Husky BMS has built in Bluetooth for monitoring. I tried scanning for a Bluetooth signal but no luck. What app are you using to connect to the Husky Bluetooth? Keep up the great job Joe. You are a wealth of info for the rest of us average Joes out there.
NICE!!!! Pretty awesome setup you have! So the app I used was xiaoxiang bms app from the playstore or IOS. Bigbattery is developing there app but its not complete yet. Having said that I am told that not all batteries have the bluetooth enabled which explains others not being able to find or connect. I will say tho that the first time I connected, I did it with an old ipad and it didnt show right away. Let me know if yours works ends up working.💥🤘
Thankyou for your informative video brother would you be able to set up a solar powered rig to show off please
How are you connecting to it via Bluetooth? I got one and I can't connect to it!
I used the xiaoxang app, first need to pair with it which I always forget to do. With your bluetooth enabled does it show up?
@@AveRage_Joe I just received two of the 24V husky batteries. I also don't see them on the xiaoxiang phone app, or in the phone bluetooth scanning.
Yours may not have it on the 24v batteries!
@@AveRage_Joe I also have the Husky 48 V battery along with the app and it does not show up in the app or my scanner that I have on my iPhone also great videos I love what you’re doing here thanks for any information you can give me to get this Bluetooth hooked to the app.
Fan freaking tastic! I have the exact same inverter and battery for our off grid cabin and it is amazing. Thank you for the videos and your insight Joe!
Thanks Mate! Yeah Both are amazing!!! Good to hear another with the same inverter and battery! Thanks for sharing!!😆🤘
I got 1 word to say teardown ... thanks for sharing
In Work!😆💥🤘 Thanks for watching!!!
I have the HSKY with growatt. I charged two days in a row from utility with no problem . On the third day got fault code 19 on growatt (battery not connected) when it is def. connected and none of the online suggestions worked
Which growatt do you have? Same as mine or 6kw? Only thing I could think of is if the bms turned the discharge port off. Obvi turn off both inverter and battery and turn back on unless you tried that. Could also try changing the inverter bulk charge a smidge lower. Lmk
@@AveRage_Joe You can try to reset the BMS by unplugging/plugging in the balance leads connector. Will Prouse had to do that to get his unit to operate.
thank you, you opened my eye
Joe I have learned a lot watching your videos
Awesome! Glad they are of some help!🤘💥
I own a 12V version of the Big Battery box and so far it as been outstanding. It was a perfect add on for my Inergy Apex unit that Inergy still can't seem to provide added batteries for.
Nice! Ive been looking at those units! They look nice. I thought they just recently released the battery add ons?
@@AveRage_Joe Last I saw they were still on preorder after being announced alongside the Flex unit. Keep in mind I bought the Apex unit 2 yeard ago for which they promised added batteries that never came. I was less than happy about it. The inverter system works great though. The Flex should be a great product, just peeved about my experience some cause I ended up buying a tweener product.
Oh damn thats crazy!
This system looks legit, contacting you for more info, need some advice!
Replied!🤘
Thanks, I'm looking at getting this Battery
Its a good one! I am still using it everyday and Zero Issues!!🤘
Watched a few of your videos great job super informative keep em up
Awesome, thank you!
Hi Joe can you do a video how to setup the WiFi dongle for the 12KW Growatt thanks. Love the video as always! 👍🏽
Eeeeek, its been a few years. I do remember getting it to work after I changed to the US server AND getting it to "sync" from my phone. After that I was able to login from pc. Are you having issues?
@@AveRage_Joe yes I can’t connect with my phone
It would be good to see a cap bank or specialty battery for supplying inrush current.
These can supply a good amount of juice!!!
What's the approximate life span for a husky?
10yrs cycle every day!
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Ok, just ordered a Husky. Hope it’s all you indicate. Will’s kinda down on BB, but his probs were with a prior generation, and the husky’s layout seems to have addressed the crushed cell concern
Nice! It is everything I said. If you havent seen the last vid powering my house, it was great!!! Will is up and down on many things! I think most of his units were not production units. I could be wrong tho. I havent seen or heard any issues with crushed cells but I dont watch many of his videos anymore. Cells have foam cushion around all sides of the 4 grouped cells which is great. I literally use/cycle this Husky battery every single day and have zero issues with it. Great battery for sure!🤘
@@AveRage_Joe he had a leaker on a 24 volt battery (mule I think, but don’t quote me). He then did a rant which he pulled the next day
Husky was delivered with cable. Charging now off of AC. Beautiful balance thus far
Wonderful!!! Glad to hear it!!!🤘
Now for a noob question. The charger is set at 58.8 volts I am holding it to around 30 amps. The BMS started throwing single cell over voltage errors and shutting down charging at about 55 volts total. Is this normal? I have stopped charging for now.
Any Advice will be welcome. This is my first LifePO4 foray
A lot of people are stuffing these big batteries in their golf carts, and getting great performance.
Yes they are!! Huge improvement!!
Will the APC UPS charge it?
Actually yes but not to full charge! Think it was 55-56v!
so they are using a jbd bms ?
Looks like it or something similar
Yes
Yes as Jason got to it before I did. They seem like pretty decent bms's. I ordered a couple 12v and 24v to try out!
Another enjoyable and informative video - thank you! Boy things have come a long way compared to even 3 years ago as far as 'off the shelf' stuff / kits. However, you can still same raw $ on larger battery banks if you willing to do the work.
Thanks Kenneth! Appreciate the comment! I couldnt agree moar from 3 years ago. Crazy isnt it! Yeah for sure can still diy with larger cells. I have some and building right meow. Ordered before I received the Husky battery! Still tho, cant beat what you get with this complete battery.🤘
@@AveRage_Joe Yeah but now the EG4 pro from Signature Solar is a better unit for $1700. These guys are way over priced in the market now.
Good teardown, love the code too. Maybe a few dollars off the is awesome!
Thanks Man! Full tear down video coming!💥🤘
Why is it: when one gets drawn into this DIY power stuff, the batteries just seem to multiply?
You can never have enough 😁✌🏼
LOL 100%!!! You start small and then one day.........🔋🔋🔋🔋🔋🔋🔋🔋🔋😆
YES!!!
@@AveRage_Joe Can you do a video on creating a mobile solar power station with your leftover 18650's? I am thinking of doing a setup for our teardrop camper and have it power our window unit ac and charge off a solar panel when traveling or when parked. I was thinking of going 4s and like 40p but don't know if it is bad to make a battery that big or better to make smaller packs in parallel. I will likely just get a 1500w pure sine wave inverter and not really worried about building it into a case with USB ports or 12v lighter plugs. Major concerns are pack cooling and BMS or BMS's if doing multiple packs.
Possibly! Do you know the watts on the AC unit. Not sure a 1500w inverter will kick it over. Do you have cells meow or still processing or havent started and no cells yet. Also 12v is tricky to do as the voltages wont match the inverter(usually). If you dont have cells yet Id go lifepo4 for sure since they will match. Let me know!🤘
So how are you displaying all these cell voltages if the Bluetooth app isn’t available yet?
If you watch carefully you can see the name. It starts with x. :) Seems similar to the daly bms software but less buggy.
@@nadieselgirl Is he using the the Android or W10 version of X's software?
@@loganv0410 Android and IOS
Yep I am using the xiaoxang app on android and on the old Ipad and it works great!!
@@AveRage_Joe is there a win-10 version? I didn’t see that option
Watching this while balance charging my little headway 40Ah pack ;)
Always a good time balancing a pack!😆🤘
@@AveRage_Joe Especially if you are in Sydney Australia and in lockdown due to covid!
Are you all still in lockdown REALLY??? Things have calmed waaaay down here!
Hey Joe. Im new to the solar game and learning a lot...thanks for sharing you wealth of knowledge about Big Battery and solar in general. One question that always bother me is that no one really addresses....the battery charging while discharging question (see the last question). I heard you say in this video you discharge to something like 40% capacity and then recharge, are you recharging while your discharging? It almost seems pointless to turn off power usage until you've recharged the battery....sorta defeats the purpose IMHO. Does it harm the battery life cycles charging while discharging??? Thanks Joe!
Thanks for watching! So what I mean by discharging to a % is at night or when the sun isnt out. During the morning you are recharging and using battery and solar at the same time. Once battery is charged my system (or most systems) will stop charging and use solar to power everything until the sun goes down and the cycle restarts. Does that help answer your question?
@@AveRage_Joe Thanks for you fast reply. You did answer my question...Thanks! Here's my situation (for now) I have 6, 100 watt RichSolar panels connected to a Bluetti AC200P and getting nearly 600 watts of solar power. Leaving solar connected 24/7 to the AC200P should be just fine, but I was wondering if the life cycle will be decreased?
I really want a mobile system that I can take to an off-grid cabin but need more power maybe 10-12 KWH enough to run a small AC and some appliances. Can you recommend a system? Thanks Joe!
Having the solar connected to the ac200p all the time is just fine. It has a controller built in to handle the battery when it needs charged ect...
As far as a moble system, did you want something to leave at the cabin or actually take with back and forth kinda thing?
@@AveRage_Joe Most likely something that can be removed and safe from theft. Leaving solar panels would have to be more permanent.
So I had 2 husky’s and now have a condor…anyway my batteries shut off at about 50v. How are you getting 46 🤷♂️
All batteries shut off at 50v? What are your inverter settings?
AveRage Joe my low voltage cutoffs are 48 or below. Since there SOC chart shows battery is basically dead at 50? I always feel like I’m not getting full capacity. The new Condor I have has a display and it even shows I don’t! Full charge 141 ah. When advertised as 170.
Ahhhhh Ok so your going off the SOC meter? And the batteties dont shut off? Like the bms doesnt cut power? If so then those readings on the meter are a fairly close in accuracy however, 50% on a LiFePO4 battery is were it "grunts" and will hold thats same voltage for quite a while. In saying that you should set your low cutoff on the inverter to 46v since the low side on your battery is 43v.
AveRage Joe I appreciate your replies but its just very hard to explain! 😂.
Ok let me know if this is correct....so on the bms its showing 141ah? If so that is ok as that number will recalibrate depending on your last discharge. If your low voltage was set a little lower you would discharge a little more and that number would reflect the most recient discharge!
What are your thoughts on the possibility of leaking cells as noticed by Will Prowse? It was suggested by Will to store this on it's back just in case the cells decide to leak and to also perhaps prevent issues with all weight of the cells stacked on top of each other if stored virtically. What are your thoughts? Also, how many of these 100amp hour batteries would it take to use this battery exclusively for powering your entire house in the average 24 hour cycle with charging from PV's during the day?
From what I understand Wills battery was not a production unit at the time and some cells had a manufacture defect. Which was rectified quickly. I guess they found just a few leaky cells out of over 10,000. They dont use those cells anymore and are different then the cells in this particular battery. I guess BB sent Will 2 more batteries (in that video) that were production units but he never opened them up to show the fixes. I seriously have had zero issues with mine but I actually use it everyday. This one has "shelves" holding 4 cells up so there are 4 compartments so the weight of the upper cells are not a problem. I am not scared to use the battery standing up as its intended. No harm in putting it on the side either as many use for golf carts!
For my house at this current moment I still have the stove, dryer and AC on a separate subpanel supplied by the grid. Everything else is off grid 24/7 unless we have no sun. I have this husky battery connected to my old diy powerwall which is around 200ah. If I had 4 Husky units alone I believe I could add the other items (stove ect...) and be good or super close! I do have solar so that always helps for sure!!! Of course everyones home and or kwh use is different.
Great videos! Have you ever considered testing a flow battery? I'd be curious to learn more about this emerging consumer energy storage system.
Thanks! Ill have to look one up!
@@AveRage_Joe Here's one of the emerging residential flow battery makers that you might want to check out: voltstorage.com/en/
Looks a bit like a Tesla Powerwall.
Hi Joe , that's a ripper system i love the plug play there batteries system have and adding batteries, yeah cell 16 is a bummer but easy enough to replace it anyway. We have to remember mass production there producing cells like (tictax) lollies .
A Diy's dream to go green, BOOM great vid from oz
Thanks Man! Yeah I like how easy there systems can go together! Makes it super easy for sure! I dont see an issue with cell 16 as it has over 103ah. I mentioned in a few other comments that there is always a weak cell and strong cell in every multicell battery pack. This one just happens to be cell 16. Plus in real world applications we dont drain the battery down to 0% SOC. But yes 100% a DIYers dream cause I know we ALL say sometimes...I wish I could just buy a battery and just use it! Thanks for watching, Much appreciated!!!🤘💥
Dude I wish we had bigbattery in Australia, they look sick. Nice vid bro ✌🏼
Thanks Mate! It would be Awesome if they had one there. These batteries are awesome!!! Hows your "winter" going?🤘
@@AveRage_Joe It's been pretty chilly mate. 0 deg C this morning, not as cold as what you guys get but cold for us here.
How's your summer going? 🌝
Thats pretty chilly for sure specially when use to the heat! Summer here is good just super busy. Working on the house ect.....and the day job!
@@AveRage_Joe I hear you mate. I'm in the middle of renovating our bathrooms.
Enjoy your summer brother ✌🏼
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i'm curious about the number of charging cycles this batteries is expected, i guess more than the 1000 cycles of regular lithium batteries ?
I'd say 3000 but like lithium charged to 85% capacity life can double.
Patrick beat me to it but yes, they are 3000-4000 cycles which is cycling it every day for 8-10 years!! After that they are not dead or done, they should have like 80% of capacity left!!😵🤘
@@AveRage_Joe ok, thanks to you two for the answer 😉 seen the price of this type of investment, it's good to know it can be used some years 😅
You betcha! Lifepo4 is a great chem that will last for years!!!
@@AveRage_Joe only just beat you , yes I was going to add more info but left that for you mate.
This is a ripper system I hope someone take this onboard in Australia.
100amp 12v lifepo4 battery are getting made here but nothing like this yet. I'm loven it looking forward to more
Hm, if it was my battery, I would be a bit disturbed and worried about this cell n° 16 which arrives at 2.5V with such a voltage difference compared to other cells :/
i learned the hard way, will NEVER buy from Big Battery again.
I actually didnt think it was to bad as there is always a weak and strong cell especially at the low cutoff voltage. You should see my powerwall, Im pretty sure its way worse lol. In normal usage tho you wont go down that far.😆🤘
Oh damn, sorry to hear. Musta had a bad experience?
@@AveRage_Joe
cells are like humans. one is stronger then the others, one weaker than the others.
One Hundo %😀
Boooommm! Heya Joe! Always a great video! Salute from Bolsonaro land!
Thanks Mate!!! Appreciate that!!!💥💥🤘
I will take a Kong battery, looks like this might be replacing the APE.
Looks like a beast doesnt it! Not sure if its a replacment but the difference is 15s vs 16s!😆🤘
I was on their website and tried the “joe10” on an all in one package and will not work. Any advice??
I will contact them, give me a lil bit for a reply. You put in joe10 without the "" correct?
@@AveRage_Joe that’s right. It works if I purchase the battery only but not when it includes the inverter. “All in one package”
Thank you for letting me know! I sent them an email and let them know its not working for kits and waiting for a reply. Again thanks for letting me know!💥🤘
Ok there was a glitch, its being taken care of and should be working tomorrow. I can reply here if you want when its fixed!💥🤘
@@AveRage_Joe sounds good. Let me know when it’s fixed!
Very nice, but does your cat approve?
Wireless 😸 Approved!!😆🤘
At 6:49 you appear to be using two different apps. What's on the left (obviously xiaoxiang's product, but is it Android or W10), and what's on the right?
Please keep up the great vids. I'm learning a tremendous amount from you.
Left: Xiaoxiang BMS on IPad Right: VictronConnect App for his added 500a SmartShunt
Thanks Mate! Yep Jason beat me to it. I was using an old ipad on the left with the xiaoxang app(also works on android). The right was the victron smart shunt app on android!🤘
@@AveRage_Joe Thanx!
I just want the LiPo batteries lol. Awesome 👍😎
You and me both!😆💥🤘
The husky 48 volt you said it has blue tooth to the bms
Yeah mine does! Im hearing some do and some dont and that is because there app is still in developement!
1,Amp hr. Being known throughout is good .
2. Calibrate the BMS so we can see percentage of discharge .
3. The battery should be charged at 3.65 top charge for 1-2 hrs. To top ballance
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I wonder about those batteries. I see they balanced but under discharge they seem to be all different. Not something I have seen before.
Whats to wonder, There is always a weak cell and strong cell in a all multi cell battery packs. No cell is exactly like the other. Nothing new here at all. Under normal usage you dont bring the battery down that far. I think it handled great!
More about the 24-volt mule batteries
Damn.After checking the website and seeing what the systems go for in the US... Canadian prices are insane.
I bet the shipping is INSANE going to Canada!!!😵
@@AveRage_Joe There is a Canadian distributor. But it's $4000 Canadian for just the battery.
That sounds like A LOT!!!
wow that is some cool stuff!!! I like the nice big cables, too bad I dont have money to burn on batteries, I have to use the batteries I already have
Yeah its some nice stuff for sure!!! Agree the cable size is a huge plus! Hows your projects coming along?
@@AveRage_Joe Not going to be possible how I wanted it to be, The project of connecting all my SLA's in parallel to build a "buffer" battery is not going to be able to be connected into my 12v UPS (it is a CyberPower 425VA). The reason is that the negative battery terminal is connected to the inverter negative, which is then switched between Hot and Neutral, so that is not going to be any sort of code compliant if I were to have the negative connected directly to ground. To summarize, you want Neutral and Ground to be the same potential but NOT negative and Ground. But I guess the UPS will just have to be left as it is just using its internal 3.6Ah battery
LAME!!! Will have to figure out another way or option.
@@AveRage_Joe Yea dont use AC at all! just use DC! 🤣
Does your Bms have a Bluetooth module connected to the comm port by the balance port? Mine doesn't so I'm not sure what I've been trying to connect to lol. Also is it just one of these type modules or something proprietary batteryhookup.com/products/bluetooth-module-for-battery-hookup-bms ?
Great video!!!
Thanks Man!
I love these.
Thanks Mate! I do too!!😆🤘
It's ok I liked the smash button.
Thanks!!!!😆🤘
Love your videos your back
Thanks Mate!!!😆🤘💥
Great video
Thanks Man!!!💥🤘
wow!
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Those cells are very un matched if the voltages drift by that much.
I dont think so at all especially for draining it down to 0% Every multi cell battery pack has a weak cell and a strong cell. No 2 cells are exactly alike. Each test was over 103ah!💥🤘
love your videos.......keep it up
I need some low capacity cells joe nan you got some?
I think I do but cant ship. If you stop over tho...😆🔋
@@AveRage_Joe you are over 20 hours away 😂
poops to that got me EG4 batteries instead
need to change that cell 16. all of them are so unmatched/unbalanced, wow.
It has over the 103ah tho. I dont think there is anything wrong with it. You and I both know that no 2 cells are alike and there is always a weak cell and strong cell in every multi cell battery pack! Plus we never typically drain a battery down to 0% SOC!💥🤘
@@AveRage_Joe just keep selling the ones that drop too low and buy new ones until they match up hahaha
Lol there you go!
Just turned off my bell. Average Joe sells out
😝💥🤘 Hit the bell again!!!
Sorry Joe just can't do it your no longer a diy channel. It seems you want to be a salesman. I will still watch your older stuff. Good luck an best wishes with your endeavors.
@@MikeSmith-ig6iw it's all about content, young channels are developing a style and a following, that will aid in a channels growth.
Near as I can tell when a diyer starts working on their idea, studying and learning as they go. They may research similar projects notably those done by other DIYers in many different formats. This version is all theirs, even if it is similar to other diyers results.
Whether they choose to create "quick and simple" or "detailed long term" project documentation oftentimes is about having the equipment and the time. If video is the choice, you'll see a "review", a "I did it" or a "this is how I did it", very different formats for different audiences.
Some topics are covered by a few short videos, covering several topics over time while projects can require dozens of incremental videos.
Subscribers do not want to see the same thing over and over, and in time creators must add new 'flavors' to the channel.
If this last Big battery episode was first, it might have easily been seen as a sell out.
Joe's channel is mostly about DIY Power Walling and building them. Big block LiFePo4 cell based systems are the current fervor now that LiFePo4 cell costs are dropping like a rock. Joe has at least 4 videos on building a LiFePo4 based Power Wall.
I don't think I could stand another "buss bar" fabrication video.
Remember a Power Wall it is a system, a collection of sub components, please note this system combines two styles (of many) energy storage.
I can't wait to see new tech will come along in this field of DIY R&D.
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@@MikeSmith-ig6iw ok, I apologize for the novella, but you may have noted, that I also thought this video was more like an ad.
I don't dump a creator if a video is unlikable, I just don't like and comment why. Again 👍
No worries man! If a few videos qualifies as a sell out vs the 200 diy videos that I have done and still doing then thats cool! Thanks for watching!😀🤘