70 Years Later, The Idea Of Pakistan: with Pervez Hoodbhoy
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.พ. 2025
- About the speaker:
One of Pakistan’s most celebrated academics, Pervez Hoodbhoy is a world renowned nuclear physicist, prominent activist, as well a distinguished professor at Forman Christian College and the Quaid-e-Azam University. He has served as professor at the likes of Carnegie Mellon, LUMS, and MIT from where he obtained multiple degrees eventually leading to a PhD in nuclear physics. Bold and unapologetically progressive, Pervez Hoodbhoy is an advocate of freedom of speech. A regular contributor to dawn.com, he has also written for The Express Tribune as well as The New York Times on topics ranging from religion to education.
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Dr. Hoodbohy is the great man , bold enough to speak against the irrationality, extremism and bigotry
A very courageous and informed discussion. Happy to see a very good quality of discussion and questions among young men and women of Pakistan. Congratulations from India.
it is not a discussion its an opinion piece
Hahahaha......even such a nice guy with such modern outlook has not been able to accept Hindus worshiping cows 44.54....I wonder what his reaction will be when he finds out that we worship trees also.
Sonal Singh ☺
are u really serious ?? i mean come on ..even a kid knows that its not in literal terms ..imean for god's sake no hindu puts a cow in an temple and thinks that she is god .....cow is holy not god ...and there is a very big msg behind it ...even an agnostic like me gets it but ppl like u need to research more bfr putting out such drivel ... and may be ur family worships tree ..there is a diff betn worshipping and cosidering holy..AND BTW HOW IS UR GOD DIFF FROM THEIR GODS ?? ALL R FAKE SO HOW DS IT MATTER
He is not a nice guy but try to act and look like one.
@@idontcarei in fact none are fake ... all is god .. according to hinduism
Stop cow worship hehe, that picture is absolutely fine for normal people lol. U r abnormal
Thnx
The cow picture behind the professor sums up Islam.
Pakistan will prosper if they value this gentleman.
The Painting of a to-be-slaughtered Cow at the back ground kept disturbing me through out the lecture. What sense of art is this?
But that's a common thing of Islam.... Haven't you slaughtered one on Bakr Eid
@R v
I concur 100%
Halal is purely satanic
God created everything as animals (using it as a common debominator for mamals, amphibians, vertebrates, invertebrates, insects, fish, avians, etc etc)
What makes us human is our conscious choices.
Only seekers (aka Hindus or Buddhists etc) have a quest and zeal to seek and unfold the many layers of the ultimate truth.
Once you are stuck in believing things (aka Abrahamic religions) your evolution also stops. Once you are "conditioned" to not to question the belief (for fear of apostasy), you cannot unfold layers of truth, for your devine revelations or its central Hero (Jesus or Jeovah or Muhammed) are the told to be the final culmination and repository or truth... You are trained there is nothing beyond it... And hence you STOP there.... In such belief systems, the Character (Jeovah or Jesus or Muhammed) become superior to the subject or message....
It depicts.....killing n torturing is the norm...be it for food, fun or din
I also have seen it today i thnk after 2 year As an Indian as well as Hindu it disrubing me a lot. After that i hav seen all this interview. In many time i have only listen due to dat pic only. By the Way Its an awsme session.
@@awhig2474 that's not true ! Hindus also slaughter cow in many parts of India. In fact the many Hindus and jain owned businesses export beef !! That's very sad because ahimsa is at the core of Hinduism
Hood bhai believes in realism and he is a straight forward intellect !!!
I am from India. First time someone from Pakistan talking sensible otherwise every man in Pakistan want jung/war. Love you sir.
Stupid hr jaga hoty hn
Aur ese log India me b hen
Thanks a lot.
Very clear vision.
Outstanding discussion.
I would like to see other vidoes.
Those people who stand for Islamic state of Pakistan shouldn't go to any secular country. Because going to a secular country, you're betraying your own ideology and Pakistani identity.
if other nations are secular then what is anyone's fault?
people will go where they want for whatever reason, whatever type of state it is
you indians make the most strange comments about islam and muslims due to your inferiority complex and hatred related to islam and muslims
Lol Chinese should be last people to comment on these matters. We know what u do to Xinjiang muslims and Tibetan Buddhists preventing them to perform their religious practises. By banning burqa, roja and measuring their beards this is how u treat muslims. Here nobody has said anything about islam we are talking about Pakistan. Don't poke ur nose in matters in which u have least knowledge. Regarding how we treat muslims three of our presidents were muslims. You will be very welcome to make these ignorant comments after electing a muslim or buddhist as a head of ur state atleast for single time.
Islam became the basis of Pakistan's founding even though that may have the last thing on Jinnah's mind for his Pakistan to be, but Islam was the reason given for the dismemberment of India and thus that's the hand that will come to dominate its sorry existence for however long it may limp along, I give it no more than 10 to 20 years and no more.
The formation of Bangladesh had done in the concept of Pakistan for all intents and purposes it's just too bad that the witless and a true daughter of her duffer daddy Nehru Gandhi didn't kill the dead concept of Pakistan right there and then. Pakistan was proclaimed that on the basis of Islam the diverse people of Pakistan will somehow form a union of Umma in faith, which was a bogus dream from the outset and in 1971 proved beyond the shadow of a doubt that it isn't so, it ain't so! Pakistan, no more, vanished - finish! And yet it's going through the motion in pretend games in the strong hands of an equally vile uneducated oligarchy of the military, which will eventually drive the three minority provinces of Balochistan, Sindh. and the Pakhtunistan out in the same style as it had done the Bangalis of the Bangladesh, and that is necessarily so.
Islam does not do secular, actually, it's an invention of the Christianity only which has worked thus far but it's in grave danger even in the West, for it to work it requires Christianity to remain robust, but now as we all know we are living in the post Christian West things have become frayed around the edges and it appears we are due for a Christian revival: Evidently we go through such periods every now and then; it has occurred in the past, such revivals.
I don't know if I have answered your question or not but I tried my best, thanks.
Sahi kaha ekdam
If pakistan religious country What type muslim practice should be Shia Sunni Dewbandi or Taliban islam
I may disagree with this great man on some points(especially how he perceives Modi)...BUT, my respect for him only keeps increasing. People like him are much needed in today's Politics.
Yes I agreed if you like or dont like. But it is fact that Imran Khan is not exremist or favor to extremist, thats why he can not effiord Khadim Rizvi sahib. It is even not affordable by the Nawaz Sharif. Sir you see when our Pakistani Army started a role as neutral player it was a game changer for Pakistan. Army is our Army if Army is neutral and make difference from religious forces it means that every citizen is now free and able to breath at there own. It is great change in our country that Army made clear distance from minority groups of religion using a play card of ISLAM and getting support of ARMY. iN MY VIEW THE SUPER POWER IS iMRAN kHAN he is facing problem of number game but he is playing very well, we have had to support him
There is nothing wrong in opposing Modi. It's his ideology to oppose any communal politics and regime, be it in Pakistan or in India. As simple as that. Nothing wrong!
Dr. Hoodbhoy is absolutely correct and Pakistani politicians should listen to him
This man has started a revolution. He will succeed. All revolutions are started by a handful of people. I hope Pakistanis support him.
Now FATA Became Pakistan...
A man with knowledge, reasoning and guts. Rarity anywhere in the world and especially in Pakistan.
Pervez Hoodbhoy, academic/scholar/honest human being. Pakistan is lucky to have him, he can make a difference. Get rid of the Mullahs/Maulvis/Generals/ISI, Pakistan will be flying once again.
Most of the Mullahs in Pakistan are Stealth Homosexuals.
simple mrright If India get rid of Kashmiri Muslims, whole of Kashmir will be of India with Secularism not Shariah Law of Muhammad in Kashmir. ☺Then India will fly again☺
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@@rohitjha8626 These Mullah are hypocrites too.They want secularism when they are in minority but they want to establish an islamist country if they are making a majority.
yes, into Hindu lap
Salute you Sir for your rational thinking. It is interesting to know that a Physics scholar can have such a deep knowledge of politics.
He suggests nothing but seems concerned about muslims and only muslims.
@@vibhordublish9914 sorry but Hoodbhoy sir is not Muslim he is Ahmadiya/ Qadiyaan ...
hoodbhoy pakoro wala danishwar :D iski social issues per knowledge pakoray bechnay walo say ziyada nahi :D :D :D
It is interesting history - A *Cabinet Mission came to India in 1946 in order to discuss the transfer of power from the British government to the Indian political leadership, with the aim of preserving India's unity* and granting its independence - it was a *joint India proposal* of Britain (although before 1947, India was already divided into multiple independent princely states as each state had its own currency, military and independent governmental system) joint India proposal that was offered when Nehru on behalf of Gandhi Jee rejected the prime offer proposed to Indian leadership. *That Mr. Jinnah accepted with exception to ensure minority rights in specific state* As Nehru jee wanted to eat the whole pie, Cabinet Mission prime offer was rejected along with the lame excuses. -- Question is who refused that prime offer of Joint India initially that Britain offered ??
-- Picture is very much clear now
Nehru ruled India just like a communist dictator for 17 years straight
1- Pakistan still part of Communist China and ready to give access to them so called "warm water" theory
2- The fact is till 1947 India was not "Joint India" in true sense -- already divided into multiple independent princely states -- it was not one nation before 1947
3- btw, *now the idea of socialist or leftist India of Nehru is in the hands of Capitalist, not Socialist - Ready to fight on behalf of Capitalist and Imperialist US and UK against the interest of Socialist Communist Russia and China*
There's some disturbance constantly throughout the video, couldn't watch after 27:00. it'd be appreciated if it can re-uploaded after fixing the issue.
Yeh Sahi mayene mey accha Pakistani hai joo peace ko boldly baatein karta hain. Good man
I Admire sir Pervez Hoodbhoy. He is a great man and a great intellectual
we must also admire his bravery .... in standing up and saying all this
Please watch it
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excellent lecture i am big fan of hood bhai
good
Thumbs up to Dr. Hood Bhai. I support your viewpoint of Secularism and especially about clear vision of Pt Jawar Lal Nehru.
Good to see a Kashmiri say this
Parvezji for the first time i have heard such a balanced lecture from a Pakistani .my father was from jhang ahmedpur.my mother was from karachi.nana was dav school principal in 1947.I heard stories from them.but you have analyzed and explained every thing so beautifully.I have become your fan.
stupid people are fans or believers or followers educated people simply choose between the worse and better through fact analysis.
@@flaminmongrel6955 ڈاکٹر ہودبھائی اپ جو باتیں کر رہے ہیں انہیں سن کر سارے مولوی ملا لاٹھی ڈنڈے لےکر نکل پڑیں گے اور اپ پر نہرو کےایجنٹ کا الزام لگ جائے گا📰
مسلمانوں میں اسلام؛ کے نام پر کبھی اکھٹا نہیں❌ ہوے ہیں😈 جنگ جمل اور جنگ صفىن میں لڑنے والے دونوں اپنے کو مسلمان ہی کہتے تھے۔ مسلمان اللہ میاں کو بھی مسلمان سمجھتے ہیں😈😈 صرف مسلمان نہیں بلکہ سنی مسلمان بنا کر پیش کرتے ہیں😈😈
@@flaminmongrel6955 اگر مولوی ملا کو اس اجتماع کا پتہ چل جاتا تو یہاں بہت بڑا خون💉 خرابا ہو جاتا
We Pakistanis are as as liberal as you Indians, but ate are hostages of mullas
Brilliant lecture,one of the best,I ever seen.Thank you. Jai Hind
how about today after India new citizen law
What is the need for Pakistani Armed services or being a security state armed with nukes? Even if we invited Indian Armed forces to come and occupy Pakistan in all likelihood they would refuse and hand it back to us. Just like they did with East Pakistan / Bangladesh.
Well said bro
If do a cost benefit analysis between ancient land regained and type of people to be accepted in the bargain..... I think it would be a loss proposition
He is really a great physicist and thinker philosopher. If Pakistan wants to be progressive and powerful she should promote such scholastic and internationally acclaimed teacher and thinker. Unki azad khayali ka ehteram.
@@rajeevsharma8024 Beware 3 Stages of Jihad...
IGNORE at YOUR OWN RISK...
1 Stealth 2 Defensive 3 Offensive
t.co/kU7iWZtwuz
Your Game is Up
Don't Believe SO Called RELIGION of PEACE
We Will Live ONLY If We FIGHT BACK
Else It's DOOMSDAY
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@@awhig2474 Beware 3 Stages of Jihad...
IGNORE at YOUR OWN RISK...
1 Stealth 2 Defensive 3 Offensive
t.co/kU7iWZtwuz
Your Game is Up
Don't Believe SO Called RELIGION of PEACE
We Will Live ONLY If We FIGHT BACK
Else It's DOOMSDAY
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Beware 3 Stages of Jihad...
IGNORE at YOUR OWN RISK...
1 Stealth 2 Defensive 3 Offensive
t.co/kU7iWZtwuz
Your Game is Up
Don't Believe SO Called RELIGION of PEACE
We Will Live ONLY If We FIGHT BACK
Else It's DOOMSDAY
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Opened my mind beyond what I was taught in High School in Pakistan. Thank you for the new vision!
In India, History means glorifying Mughal rule at the cost of rest, indeed for vote bank politics. In Pakistan, it's demeaning Hindus, and hiding many other facts. Both policies are proving to be costly mistakes. Right History is the best for a country.
Too little too late randibaaz
The curriculum and content of the education system in Pakistan, is managed by the Pakistan army... read history from world perspective and you will know the truth.
@@SS-bg6ht Beware 3 Stages of Jihad...
IGNORE at YOUR OWN RISK...
1 Stealth 2 Defensive 3 Offensive
t.co/kU7iWZtwuz
Your Game is Up
Don't Believe SO Called RELIGION of PEACE
We Will Live ONLY If We FIGHT BACK
Else It's DOOMSDAY
Like & Share 2 ALL
@@arjunriddle Beware 3 Stages of Jihad...
IGNORE at YOUR OWN RISK...
1 Stealth 2 Defensive 3 Offensive
t.co/kU7iWZtwuz
Your Game is Up
Don't Believe SO Called RELIGION of PEACE
We Will Live ONLY If We FIGHT BACK
Else It's DOOMSDAY
Like & Share 2 ALL
Heard and seen him on the U tube. He is outstanding. He is inheritor of a great Indian civilization. Wish he was with us in India, leading us into a great future'.
The most educated and intelligent professor in Pakistan.
Pakistani should learn from him.
Prof.Dr.Fazal
Cambridge
you can have him
What a man,If people with such clarity lead any nation ,that nation will grow.🙏
I am a Indian and I went thru a complete video and inspiring to me. Thank you...!
@Bhupendra Dave hinduphobia is nothing rare in pakistan no matter how liberal you are there you must keep talkin about islam being nice if you don't then you will be killed like mashal khan.
In pakistan tolerance is finished, and the minorities are only 1% and reducing in pakistan due to the insecurity of the minorities
*Me iss insaan ka bachpana se fan hun around 2008 se follow karta hu, ye bahut nek dil insaan he... Boht acha bolta he..Kash ye insaan india ..me hota...Love from india*
Hallelujah!! No one asked real question but praising Mr.Hoodbhoy.
Pakistan problem cannot be solved ever ever ever. Three options left: Install SECULARISM (a Christian IDEA) OR Hinduness (local native idea of the land) OR SHARIA (imported Arab IDEA). Choice is yours.
You are always giving hope but I am sure, deep in your heart,you have no hope, Hassan Nisar is loud and clear.
Hope is eternal
There is always hope and it needs just two generations of progressive thinking.
Comparing hassan nisar with Hoodhboy is very illogical.
Hassan nisar is a good for nothing commodity
Yes I agree with you.there is no hope for our new generation.Our society is rapidly declining
I love this man's truth explanation. If all Pakistanis develop their brains like him, may be no one can stop Pakistan to become golden country in this world.
I agree. But it is not just Pakistanis, I wish every person in every country could realise that they have inherited the debt of their forefathers mistakes and the equity of their positive actions and that they have the option to stop the inheritance sequence of the debt by acting differently and teaching the next generation to think more collaboratively. W.r.t. India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh, I think we would prosper so much more if we create a union that accepts that the people now think of themselves as nationals of different countries due to our recent past but also tries to work towards societal progress, safety and economic success of all three countries together.
This war of words, actions and ideologies between us was not our creation and we have the option to drop it and move forward together in lockstep. I can’t even imagine what we can achieve if we can create such a union. So many nations around the world are benefitting from our issues, and want these fights to continue, would be left by the wayside while we achieve our previous glory again and become the economic, philosophical and intellectual centre of the world again. Not sure how this can be achieved but if there is some way to do it, I would love to support it and play my small part in its realisation. Please reach out to me directly if you agree and are enthusiastic enough to make a contribution and I am sure we can collectively figure out a way. Collaboration is the way forward!
@@sistasanjay I respect your ambitions. However, the mindset of its people does not allow them to live together. We all are prejudiced at one or other level (religion, caste, customs, language etc). As per ancient history, India has never been a united country but a collection of hundreds of independent states ruled by rajahs. Mughals and British tried to unite India just for the sake ruling and looting. By the way, which glory are you talking about? The population of this region has always been poor. Even in current (pseudo)democracies there is unjust distribution of wealth. However, India, Pakistan and Bangladesh should resolve their geopolitical issues, avoid wars and learn to coexist like good neighbors. This region needs great leaders not hypocritical politicians.
Actually,the fact is that India's economy started growing fast after India shedded r left nehru's policies of socialism,and adopted market economy
Hey, Mridul, u don't realise that liberalisation could b initiated ONLY because basic industries had been built under govt initiative in the early years. Do u know WHY that "socialism" was necessary? Because the heavy investment needed for infrastructural development wasn't available with industrialists. And since the banking system was in its nascent stage, taking loans wasn't feasible. Nor was it attractive since, unlike consumer goods and services, no profits could be made. Just study the history of the railways to see what incentives were given by the British govt to attract British investment. Son, no market economy can be successful without home production--which can only work if heavy industries have developed--and without buyers. Have u any idea of the low buying capacity of Indian citizens in the 50's and even 60s? Most did not even have telephones, let alone fridges. As for ACs and cars. These were for the elite. As infra and industries developed, salaries went up, banking spread, nationalisation of banks instilled confidence in account-holders, and that created a consumer class. But gradually. Only then could liberalisation b initiated. U have NO idea how backward India was when it became independent.
Technically no one really made India, India existed before 1947, the leaders at the time made a concerted effort to get rid of the invading British.
Parvez rightly said “Nehru ka naam lena bhi aaj gali ke barabar hai” and this comment is a proof of it!!!
Just remember, India had just emerged from the horror of imperial capitalism in 1947. It’s just so easy to say that why we didn’t embrace capitalism back then by sitting on comfy chairs in 21st century. Just listen to what Modi Ji said in rajya Sabha that every step India took after 1947 was like a gamble bcoz no policy was tried and tested. Just be grateful that everything worked!!!
Nehru was wrong thats why Jinnah left Nehru hehe, thanks u Indian finally admitted that Nehru was wrong lol
@@aarifboy jinnah was also wrong that's why your country is such a failure.
Nice to hear your discussions. Greetings from Bangladesh.
Sir I am from Bangladesh I like your speech. Your speech need to listen not only Pakistan but the whole world.
It is like playing a harp before buffalos. The painting speaks volume about the place.
@@jaybeejay777 I feel hurt by this picture. I feel no one's feelings must be hurt. Love all is the best policy.
@@emperor2267 You failed to understand the real meaning if that picture
@@HaiderAli-co9jl what's that hidden meaning ?
Before you criticize the painting, you must understand the intent behind it - the painter's mind or whoever out it there.
Do not shoot the messenger.
This is from a full-on Hindu, by the way.
@@ArmageddonIsHere Anyone posting contents anonymously is a coward who doesn't have conviction and courage to express his views with his name. You are one such person. Please don't respond to people who have posted contents bravely with their names. You have no right as a Coward.
A highly thought provoking session. Thank you Sir for awakening this nation.
One of few person who speaķ truth with wisdom. And aganist myth leadership n blind follwers
Great man i’ve ever seen,I’m proud he is a pakistani .hold on i’m a pure indian but good is good .this person is a scientist 👨🔬 i’m 100 percent sure
Yes, he is a Ph.D. in applied physics and a Head of Department Professor of international repute. Pity he is not from India otherwise we could have seen a second Dr. Abdul Kalam here!
@@shyamalmitra7617 tumhari iss chutiya sooch per ye lecturer de reha hai illiterate hindutwa gaae mooter toilet less technology wali qoum hindu
The cow in the background is Pakistan, the blood oozing out is that of it’s citizens n the knife that slit the cows throat is the pak army. Pak people should just ask one simple question how many army kids and mullahs kid die in jihad ? Poor kids are send to die in Kashmir n Afghanistan while mullah and army kids go to west to live a good life.
ALLAH is Rabulalameen he is ALLAH for everybody and everything nobody came in this world with there choice religion is teach you to do Wright things
Jinna was full of severe contradictions. Such people are called as 'Liar' in simple term.
& Dividing a great civilization with silly baseline of such contradictions, is a CRIME.
LOL, india was never a "great civilization" on its own. Only under Islam, it became 'great'....regardless of whatever vedic myths you promote to laugh at.
If india was so "great", it wouldn't be conquered again and again and again by smaller, more technologically advance forces from abroad.
By some accounts, Prithviraj had 1 to 7 superiority over Ghori...and yet, Ghauri demolished the "great civilization king" easily. LMFAO. Tells a lot.
india is a broken, beaten down, conquered civilization with no much influence on the world. It will stay like this, regardless of how many myths you peddle.
SwapnilRB if you had really studied history of subcontinent you would know the actual lairs were your nahru, even Gandhi was not happy with him or sardar patel so shut your fucking mouth. You Hindus have never accepted Muslim country n keep crying on this u TIL you reach hell.😡😡
Dear Pervaiz hood bhai, Regrate to confess that I know nothing of physics or science but having a sense of this wonderful knowledge n Ideem that you're the only in Pakistan for us to be proud of, hats off to you sir ,Science bless you,
Good man
Love from India
Love from Pakistan
an absolutely stupid and socialist approach hindutva is not about economic policies pakistan is poor cause it has to much government regulation a socialist model whilst India became a major power after the liberalisation in 1991 and this still continues and India will continue to grow CAPITALISM is the KEY!
You mean communism?
High thinking mind....stay blessed sir
YOu are the best, Sir. I met you a long time ago when your beloved father and mother were in this world
It's encouraging to see so many people agreeing with Dr Hoodbhoy. He has confirmed everything I have felt about Mr Jinnah, Sir Iqbal and Ayesha Jalal. I too have no idea why Ayesha Jalal thinks that Mr Jinnha didn't really want Pakistan. Oh really? He could have given up the idea of Pakistan anytime.
You can watch movie called Sardar. Jinnah demanded Pakistan from Mountbatten on the basis that Muslims eat cows meat (that is the only reason he gave) and many Hindu worship cows. Mountbatten agree to Partition but Jinnah said wait he need 3 months more to discuss with Muslim League. Mountbatten refused to give him anytime and Jinnah remained silent and Mountbatten declares partition in the next day meeting. Jinnah remained silent.
Ayesha Jalal believed that Jinnah just wanted Jizya from non-Muslims for Muslims and he never wanted partition. Aziz in "Murder of History" presents a different case altogether. Jinnah and Muslim league always wanted partition and that is why they were demanding unrealistic conditions.
Jinnah was highly adamant on partition, he even called Direct Action Day when congress said they are ready to negotiate.
Ayesha Jalal also advocate that Jinnah wanted partition in 1957 which Nehru refused and asked him to decide now. Commission plan converted to article 370 and applied to J&K in India and completely failed.
Jinnah died in 1948 you idiot
Read up on history bro, Jinnah had agreed to a 10 year period after which a potential separation would be considered based on the situation. It wasn’t Nehru who said no but Gandhi. Jinnah died in 1948, but that doesn’t mean he couldn’t have agreed to a proposal before that which applied to the future.
@@sistasanjay could you tell me which historical primary source you are basing this argument from, or which historians book, I am genuinely curious about whether jinnah wanted a 10 year "truce" or not?
@@sistasanjay from what I have seen if what aisha Jalal says is true then I am glad that partition happened, few theories which originated in the indian subcontinent are as ascenine , divisive and adding fuel to the fire of communal division as the two nation theory and I am glad Nehru cut off the cancer in its infancy , as horrible as the process of partition was , I cannot help but wonder what will be the spillover effect of such balkanising effect of such an ideology in the rest of the subcontinent.
Very Beautiful and Precious and Lovely and Precise, I have No Words to Appreciate Sir! Ideology your Ideology. Nice Very Nice
This is the beauty of PAKISTANI society to talk freely on such a sensitive issue with out any fear.
Above all this man an incredible
Mene apka mission mangal ka review dekha tha bhaot satik bataya tha...
Thank you sir...
He could become the Raja Ram Mohan of
of Pakistan, great sir, it's a treat to watch you, Pakistan people should follow him because their are very few people like him in Pakistan, a stable and prosper Pakistan is good for whole world including India
He will get k!lled next day, if he's trying to be. The Pakistan is not a country but a State running by Jamindars of Panjab.
A wonderful fellow who commands respect from all Indians. One of very few intellectuals in Pakistan. God bless him.
studbaker - What about the people in the audience who patiently listen to him and largely agree with him .?? Aren’t they worthy of respect too ??
@@jumper030281 No.
Great commentary with honesty 👍
*Nice to see Indians & Pakistanis sitting together and sharing their thoughts with each other*
We indians should learn from this guy and Pakistan of not loosing our way and go wrong
Very true. We should not become a Hindu Pakistan. The result will be exactly the same after a few years.
Nice to hear you sir! We are with you... with every liberal human being.
Brilliant Professor! Pakistan needs many many more like him as does India.
R Sultan totally agree with u Bhai
Diversity is the real strength of India....
You are hypocrite. If diversity is the real strength of India then what is Hindutva?
right know india has no diversity ??think about that
I really feel that it's good that Pakistan was being created otherwise it would have brought so much destruction to both communities.
Now we are at peace.
Thank you mohammad ali jinnah ji.
I am serving in Balochistan, except Balochs and Pashtoon, everybody is liable to be punished, tortured or at least abused, for what, no explanation required
Very good analysis
Being an indian i respect you...
App ese hi logo ko gyan dete rahe mere yahi dua he allah se...
Allah or bhagwan shiv apko salamat rakhe or bhala kare...
Being an Indian Kya Moodi aor RSS ka gyan aap k liye kafi nahin?
@@tm3793 usko htaya ja sakta hai yha democracy hai Pakistan ka kya hoga
@@Daljeetkang Aap logon ko Pakistan ki chinta kyun lagi hai?? India main 'democracy' nahin 'shamocracy' hai.
great doctor Saab
To counter Russia to weak India both country fight British monopoly to created Pakistan b
Peevez - Good you are introspecting . Very important !
Bhai Saab. Pre partition support for the division of the Indian sub continent into two, one being Pakistan, was predominantly from what is now Bangladesh (gave 99% support). Post 1971, what is now called Pakistan should be called something else and Bangladesh is the original Pakistan. Post 1971 what remains and is now called Pakistan is a big muddle even after 70 or in reality 46 years. Why? Because what is now Pakistan, pre 1947 did not have full support for the bifurcation. Punjab had a Unionist Party in government, Sind only gave 65% support and Baluchistan was a separate independent country that Jinnah had the army invade and taken over from the Khan of Kalat (The descendent of Kalat Now lives in London). Badshah Khan sahib never wanted to be part of Pakistan. Pakistan will survive only if a leadership emerged and led the people to accept that the two nation theory was a falsity and the urgent need to move away from what is simple a theory. Muslims live peacefully amongst non Muslims in Several countries including the present day India, Britain, USA, Canada, South Africa, etc etc. A solution is to allow the main states to become totally independent states without getting emotional about Pakistan which in reality is no more. Now think about it.
True human ..love you my brother
wow! Such liberal thoughts. Makes you feel you are in the ideal world. feeling liberated and lighthearted. And the dialect of the speaker is just soothing to the ears and to the mind.
I love you Gupta for having such good expressions on us poor Pakistanis who are hostages of mullas
@@Tahirkhan-commissioner thanks Tahir. I believe that enlightened minds of Pakistan will some day rise up and liberate their country from current shackles of embezzlers.
I hope Pakistan gets what it was promised by its forefathers when it was born.
@@mayankgupta139mayank bhai tu isr 6 sal purane msg ka reply ab bhi de rha hai😂😂
haa bhai. notification aata hai jab hi koi comment aata hai. aur ye video Abhi phi kaafi relevant hai.@@PawanSingh-ch5tm
You are OSM sir ......thanks Salam sir
It's heartening to see Pakistan has started thinking that too in a right direction.
Well I learnt a lot from this lecture.
Good to see this from india great
If Jinnah was secular then why he divided India.
mukesh kumar you forgot his counterpart
mukesh kumar he worked 40 years for unity
Patel and nehru were also involved in the partition of india who were also secular
FAZLE AKBAR, what is there fault??
Politicians always want power. Both Nehru and Jinnah became prime ministers by this. And the people of the subcontinent were taught as they wished as to why the partition.
Neharu's socialist thought kept India out of progress. It was Narisiha Rao who brought India out of "Bakwas" socialism.
Hoodbhoy you’re a gem 💎
Wish there were more progressive people like you in Pakistan ❤️❤️❤️
He is not progressive, he is just ''different'' from the majority. Nothing special or progressive about him..sorry to bust your bubble
@@ahsanbutt7038 Pakistan ki Badnasibi Imran Khan hai.Ye Pakistan ko 4 tukdo me taqsim karwa kar London Bhag jayega
@@rajeev5810 Jis country ki apni badnaseebi itni shadeed ho kay wahaan MODI jesa khota prime minister ban jaye tou uss country kay rehne walo ko yeh suit nahi karta kay wo kisi doosre country kay baray may comment karein.
@@ahsanbutt7038 Gandu Bhatt Hindu hote hai aur tera dada par dada Talwar se darkar musalman bane hai. Teri nasal Hindu ki hai
Ab bhi waqt hai ghar wapsi kar le aur ban ja Hindu.
@@rajeev5810 No thank you, i dont want to go back into same old hellhole of hinduism that my dada parrdada endured. i thank you to Muslims who rescued my dada parrdada out of hellhole of hinduism in the past and gave me a life, an independent and free life that i so value and cherish.
It is heartwarming to know that the Pakistani audience is so rational.
The number of rationalists is growing.
Jinnah's father was Hindu who later converted to Islam.
The large part of Pakistanis are former Hindus and Buddhists. They deliberately ignore that fact for the sole reason that it shakes the very ideology on the basis of which Pakistan was founded i.e. two nation theory and Muslims cannot live with Hindus. But that is proving wrong. Pakistan is breaking from the very ideology of Islam on which it was founded. After breakup from East Pakistan now called Bangladesh, Pakistan is breaking apart and next 10-20 years will be challenging. Exclusivity is the cause.
@@emperor2267 look bro religion should be personal choice
It should not be defined by birth
Bodh also were previously Hindus
And Hindus were also Nature woroshiper in Indus valley civilization Era
Religion should not take part in public domain it should be personal
@@kuldeepashiya5808 When Religion is a State Religion in every country like Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Malaysia, Regions like Middle East, Central Asia and Continents like Europe, America, Australia, Africa then why India alone must be Secular. we too must have State Religion to include all our native faiths (namely Hindus, Sikh, Buddhists, Jains). Our culture and faiths are intertwined. We must retain both. Otherwise, in another 30 odd years, we will face same fate like Hindus and Buddhists face in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan. Recollect fate of Bahmian Buddha and Chittagong Buddhists. You may be prepared to go under Burkha. Many are unwilling.
@@emperor2267 the demolition of babri masjid, gujrat riots, delhi riots(happening now) amit shah threatening muslims
Sonu nigam critisizing azaan are all examples of the 2 nation theory, so dont give me the statement that 2 nation theory is wrong, it is it will always stand
Plus ur dreams of breaking Pakistan shall always remain a dream
Since the 70 years uve been saying there will no Pakistan and wat not
We stand
And shall always stand
As long as Pakistan stands
The 2 nation theory stands
Plus, it was the mughals which ruled upon the hindus, and most Pakistanis are the descendants of mughals, so dont give us the statement we were converted
Fortunately awareness and debate on such issues is easily accessible on internet. This will bring people out of the darkness and rigidity of ignorance and open minds. I see a bright future for the people of this sub-continent if we can survive this difficult period with patience and fortitude.
Poverty is our biggest enemy in this challenge, you cant teach logic and tolerance on an empty stomach. Poverty reduction and reducing population growth is crucial to this struggle. I urge each of us to make an concerted effort to encourage all the ordinary people we meet in our daily life to manage birth control and educate their children.
All the deaf and blind people are listening him closely
Or jahil. Anparh. Dako, zani, chorr. Thaq. .. Molvion k piche or molvion ki tarah ka mulak bana dya
@@nadiralisyad203 Mashallah tume buhat chir hai molvio se tumhari maa ka nikah molvi ne hi parhaya tha in Qadiyanio ne nahi...Jab molvio ke bare Mai bolo to ye yaad rakhna ke Holy prophet (PBUH) ki bhi Darhi thi aur tmam sahaba kram bhi molvi hi thay..
@@nadiralisyad203 Mashallah tume buhat chir hai molvio se tumhari maa ka nikah molvi ne hi parhaya tha in Qadiyanio ne nahi...Jab molvio ke bare Mai bolo to ye yaad rakhna ke Holy prophet (PBUH) ki bhi Darhi thi aur tmam sahaba kram bhi molvi hi thay..
That painting in the background speaks a lot about the place and people.
No it just shows that you don't have any knowledge of art, Art has several perspectives and deceiving meanings!
@@naqashlatif9153 yes lullah in islam has no cincept of paintin its haram lullah harami.
@@naqashlatif9153 exactly they are wannabe liberals by criticisng Indian right wing which is already working great and has been working since 1991 they have a propaganda to promote to make people realise that "i hate hindus just like you but we should be less islamist".
Lamao your gao mata getting a steak treatment i can feel your pain
🙏 with love from India ( Odisha )
food for thought for young generation.
Dr. Hood joy is a very clear thinker just like a good physicist that he is.I respect him greatly for presenting his ideas with precision.
Resolution of Pakistan in Manto Park is
In fact QARDADE LAHORE 23MARCH
1940 WAS ORIGINALLY
NOT ONE STATE FOR MUSLIMS INSTEAD
INDEPENDENT STATES FOR MUSLIMS
Irony of Pakistan is that Muslims in India are more happy than in Pakistan. Was zeena was right or wrong in creating Pakistan?
well there are no mosques bombed in India muslims are not killing muslim and isolated cases of mob lynching in rural india is shameful but compared to pakistan it is better i mean mob lynching in pakistan of christians and state also have blasphemy laws
Irony is Muslims in India are happy but u r not happy :D
And you have eliminated Hindus and Sikhs from Pakistan. At least Muslims in India never think of going to Pakistan.
Gandhu created India and modi eats lan
Indian Muslims being killed by Modi, they must now fight for Pakistan Junior
Brilliant!
how about today after Indian c citizen law
He has brought lot of good points but I still see some amount of India hate. he should should see Maulana Abul Kalams prediction at the time of Independence
@@iluilu9718 Hey uh .. mind ur language 😡
@@vaibhavsingh1707 chutiya ho tum.... Mindless nonsense stupid
Only a bastard like u wont hate India after seeing what Indians did to 10 independent states of Kashmir, GOA, DACCAN, Junagarh etc hehe. You cant call yourself democracy by occupying people with army actions lol
We Indian Muslims demand now separate country...just like Sikh Khalistan movement...Hindustan Murdabad...modi Shiv cena rss Indian army and police killers rapist of Muslims and Kashmir Muslims...
Here you will get many answers of your question from original speech of QA, Mohammad Ali Jinnah addressed to ML Lahore in 1940. Do Read between the lines.
... Now, coming to the period after the declaration of war, our position was that we were between the devil and the deep sea. But I do not think that the devil or the deep sea is going to get away with it. Anyhow our position is this. We stand unequivocally for the freedom of India. But it must be freedom of all India and not freedom of one section or, worse still, of the Congress caucus -- and slavery of Mussalmans and other minorities.
[6]] Situated in India as we are, we naturally have our past experiences and particularly the experiences of the past 2 1/2 years of provincial constitution in the Congress-governed provinces. We have learnt many lessons. We are now, therefore, very apprehensive and can trust nobody. I think it is a wise rule for every one not to trust anybody too much. Sometimes we are led to trust people, but when we find in actual experience that our trust has been betrayed, surely that ought to be sufficient lesson for any man not to continue his trust in those who have betrayed him. Ladies and gentlemen, we never thought that the Congress High Command would have acted in the manner in which they actually did in the Congress-governed provinces. I never dreamt that they would ever come down so low as that. I never could believe that there would be a gentleman's agreement between the Congress and the Government to such an extent that although we cried [ourselves] hoarse, week in and week out, the Governors were supine and the Governor-General was helpless. We reminded them of their special responsibilities to us and to other minorities, and the solemn pledges they had given to us. But all that had become a dead letter. ... CONTINUE TO READ AT LINK BELOW.
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Really you are more than Indian..... An Indian in true sense like Sri Hassan Nisar 🙏 ..
I'm little unlucky to receive such a marvelous video from Pakistan after 4-5 years of its premier
As long as you do not respect a Cow as your mother, you don't expect peace or forgiveness of Allah. With regard to your mention about Modiji I would like to clarify on behalf of majority of Indians that Modiji believes in oneness of Human beings and he never supports particular religion since he treats the entire world as his family. Actually he has done such good things for Muslim daughters what their fathers could not do. To understand Modiji, you should have his level of maturity of mind. You have given such a wrong information in your speech that Muslims are being killed in India. You do not know how peaceful and happy Indian Muslims are.I pray, let the outsiders not come and poison their minds and spoil our unity. Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs and Jains are very peaceful and soft by their culture and India is literally heaven for all people, animals trees, rivers etc since our culture has trained us to see God in every thing. Unless they are provoked by the otherside, Indians do not loose patience or tolerance.
Great reply. I admire your views. Out of every six human beings on earth ,one is Indian. We are proud of our Nation and Modiji. He is a practitioner of Yoga. A Yogi never do or preach inhuman things . He has not acquired this position by any coup. It is a democratically elected position. No one can dispute this.
Man with guts
Dear Prof, Mr Jinnah was a brilliant lawyer as he was losing his case,he changed the tracks of his argument in order to win his case,his only wish was to win his case at any cost.
800000 people died.... My grandpa used say, there were blood running through the drains/nallas. Quite a big cost to humanity. Nehru and Jinnah were selfish scumbags and power hungry kuttas.
Pakistan is almost idiotic and fanatic in their approach about Kashmir. They forget that the land that has been made Pakistan is infact the birth place of vedas, hindu and sikh religion and yet Indians are not fanatic about this. The status of this land that was given to Pakistan is same like Mecca is to Muslims, Vatican is for Christians. Yet India has not said once we want this back or initiated war against Pakistan. Infact idiotic Pakistanis forget India army had capture until Lahore in war, but gave back the complete land we won against Pakistan. This is because we believe in live and let live, if we really wanted to take back Pakistan it is just 20 days job for Indian army but we dont have such intentions as we mean well for our your brothers/sisters in Pakistan. However this cannot be a continuous process of demanding more and more land in the name of a religion. We can be generous but we are not dumb. Any more demands from Pakistan will be dealt with severely. Moreover most Pakistani are ill informed about real facts because they are taught to hate Hindus, and non-Muslims as part of their school curriculum. Pakistanis forget that we provide free medical aid to Pakistan, including Pakistani soldiers who cannot be treated in Pakistan. This is done free of cost without any charge to the people of Pakistan. Another thing I like to say about Partition, first the partition done by British was fake and it was rigged in a way that Pakistan would be created. 30% reservation to Muslims and tickets to vote to selective people not all persons. Not many Pakistanis understand that the plan to create Pakistan was formulated soon after 1857, and for this British created Muslim League in 1906, and its charter was to be loyal to Queen of England. Not just that the people of Pakistan and India, the Hindus and the Muslims and Sikhs all were cheated, cause both countries never got independence they only got dominion status. Nehru and Jinnah were British agents, who excepted lease of 100 years from the British without informing the people. Both our history is full of deceit. a pork eating alcohol drinking ex-hindu was made head of Pakistan and the beef eating ex-Muslim was made pm of India as Nehru. Now if you have any doubt read in any international news paper of 1947 or in the house of commons library in the British parliament. Both our countries were given Dominion status on 100 years lease and not independent status. In Pakistan you poisoned Jinnah and killed Fatima Jinnah, but in India we suffered 70 years at the hands of British representatives the Nehru family. In Pakistan, the Pakistan Army and ISI became mercenaries for America and UK, they even hanged their own PM Bhutto at the orders of Americans. Its shame but this is real. Jinnah took money from British after which he changed his strategy to create separate Pakistan. How Jinnah self proclaimed himself as governor general without any electoral process due to faithfulness to British he was obliged. NWFP (pathan muslims) were always pro-India and not pro-Pakistan hence Abdul Ghaffar Khan was jailed soon after 1947 Pakistan formation. Did you know that the coolies in railway stations of India got the red uniform in respect for the Khudai Khidmatgars (Red shirts of NWFP) as Indians during 1947 felt those who help everyone and are capable of taking the load of the world are the red shirts of NWFP. The province of NWFP was not part of Pakistan either but they rigged voting to make it part of Pakistan. Subash Chandra Bose of Indian National Army whose right hand man was Raja Habib ur Rahman Khan (1913-1978) was an Indian nationalist during British colonial rule of India, and an officer in the Indian National Army (INA) our respects to him, despite his role in 1947 war of Kashmir, he remains an national icon in India. I can provide evidence of every single word I said in this message, but it is not difficult to search this if you are clever. We are both made fools, made to hate each other for benefits of 3rd party nations our leaders have cheated us.
Afghan & Saudi is 100% Sharia. Iran is also 100 % Sharia except it is republic.
Turkey is also moving towards 100% Sharia. So Pakistan being Muslim nation for over 70 years. It can’t stay away from Sharia. No Hindu should get confuse by such speech. Islam has to collapse before unification is considered.
Shailendra Singh I agree with u 100%. I have read Quran, Sira & Hadith. Islam needs to collapse & it will collapse. Staying away, is only way to survive from this cancer.
Exmuslim & former bangladeshi guy. Islam' the fastest dying religion ! th-cam.com/video/N3Mc98JDqaY/w-d-xo.html To me. it does not matter how one views that but Islam cam survive through the age of science & technology.
gvjudd nij09
NoFavours ...hahhaha.good joke..we ruled you for 1000 years and converted half of you..This time no one will be spared from converting to islam..beware
ABDUL RAHIM Afridi Islam did not existed for 1400 years. Turkey rule Arab for 700 years. And u rule India for 1000 years. Keep on dreaming.
Very informative and thought-provoking as well
As an intellectual, you are a true well-wisher of Pakistan.
Your genius, my friend remains unparalleled. A ray of hope in the darkness that is Pakistan.