They did a great job - people always ask what I did to it..."stock" is all I say and they are like --- "no way". The sound really is the best..and inside it is just loud enough!
that car deserves a set of the z28 wheels. those wheels are by far the coolest looking factory wheels i have ever seen and would make that car look wild. your welcome in advance. nice car btw.. ima gonna go on ahead and keep on dreamin.
WegotTheBOMB I hope to be looking into the 2016 and cant wait to see what options they have on the wheels! I love that these wheels are 20inch - i think the z28 is down to 19.
Got mine on 30 Sep. Love it very much. came in black with chrome wheel along with auto, sunroof, recaro seats. rarely use audio because most of the time listen to the exhaust sound when the rpm hit 3,000-4,000.
How do you like the recaro seats? Have you had it out to the track yet? I agree Phiriya Tingthanathikul the sound of the exhaust --- pipe it someplace all day long!
Better ever, now I cann't go back to my E90 BMW. It just few odd. ( Got into var accident and had to use ZL1 for 2 weeks) No time to go to track yet, but I will soon. I am actually at the Drift race. I am thinking of geting Vette Zo6 as well.
the G force meter out on the track did get to 1.08 in the sharp turns - and not even pushing it to a loss of traction (prolly close though). 1/2 tires gone on one track day - 2 track day tires replaced.
"the man that told me to study on Friday nights" im sitting here and as im writing this its Friday and I have homework but I don't want to do it then I saw that and was like better hit the books lol I have a 2014 1LT and hope to have a stingray by the time im 30 so im going to do my homework haha great video :)
Great Car! I would put a good aftermarket tune on the ecu & a pulley swap to unless the 600hp 590lb torque of that LSA & call it a day..& oh tint that windshield. Beautiful Muscle Car!
You asked a good question about the interior. - Radio/sound system is poor compared to the Bose in my same year suburban. Everyone does brag about the feel of the shift and the steering wheel - I will agree - the microfiber is nice compared to others I have driven. Once sitting in the interior - really very basic - seats adjust to what you need - yet the seat belt never feels proper coming over the shoulder. Dash is basic - Plug in for my Iphone6 is a 'hidden" USB port - could have been nice to have that right in the front. Small cup holders. Yet the thrill of the car - every moment - the sound - how it responds - driving it over a year and still sometimes can't believe that there is more acceleration under the peddle when you give it 'just a little more' - I have taken it on some longer trips - and the hours on the track are adding up. This car is amazing - but I do not think anything about the interior will rank it better than the SRT or GT - - then again....even if the Shift of this ZL1 was a piece of rusted metal - I would still enjoy it for the raw performance it provides! Thanks about my Dad - (I am what I am today because both my parents gave me support without judgement) -
Sonny Cool With the traction control off - you get more than a chirp! I really enjoy all the computer work going on inside - just keeping pace with the speed is a challenge.
I am laughing at how dramatic this guy is lol. the driving in the intro... then the gun shot sound effects when showing us the radio... lol Thanks for the vid
Love the car and reveiw. I've always believed if you have a few heat cycles through the moving parts you are better off beating it then babying it. Loose is fast. Period. Ever see two identical cars or trucks one being much quicker then the other? It's all in the break in, imo. No lift shift... My mouldy 406 third gen has that. Thats why I've busted third gear in 11 T5's.
I love these camaros but one thing I don't really like is the brake lights the should redesign something that looks alot more appealing. Just my opinion though
You will pull 3.9 Zero-60 all day long. 112 octane from the track the ZL1 will perform even better. I think a lot of the speed skill is in the proper timing of the shifts - the "no shift lift" makes it easy as you keep your foot on the accelerator the entire time. Only think for you to do is watch heads up display for your RPM - be sure to hit the shift properly. On the street - your 3.9 or a missed shift and a 4.1 are still thrilling. *****
Awesome car but I hate the exhaust burble or crackle. GM could do a much better job on the exhaust note. I own an '07 C6 Z51 w/m6 and I don't like the exhaust on it either. Thinking of changing out the factory H pipe for a Corsa X to eliminate the crackle.
In many ways the sound of the car seems to be unique - and you will either love it or wish it sounded different. This is just the stock sound and I can hear a ZL1 starting and its unique.
Agreed....This guy is a complete tool. I have the same color combo only in a 13' with 5,000 miles and love the car but after watching this guy Im going to have to sell.
+George Poseidon 640 hp, its going to get the LT4 Z06 mottor. Sadly the camaro will never have more hp than the top dog corvette which right now has 650hp.
+George Poseidon jesus christ under every vid of camaro you come with your bullshit. THERE IS NO SUCH THING LIKE A FUCKING ZL2 goddamnit got this in your head dude and no i am not a "mustang fag boy" or something like this how you like to insult people i drive a camaro myself
Yea it is a nice blue I was looking at getting a zl1 Camaro to and when I saw this color it look really nice especially in the sun it kind of has some purple in it to
George ZL1 Camaro if only 11k miles, you still should have the factory warranty. (not saying you should, but if it was me...id go out and finish the clutch off for good, have it tow'd - if your dealer does not notice the same problem. I believe our power train is covered - clutch is part of that.
They did have information listed in the manual - but i did not follow the plan - I think on the way home i broke 9 of the 10 things they didnt want you do to - so figured...ehh. (but launch mode is so much fun!) I did wait till 4k miles to have it on the race track. I think the track day would have been too much early on---really pushed the car very hard for that day!
Drajo Silver but just some future advice, if you own this car for an extended period of time, missing that break in instruction, WILL come back to haunt you....like i said, just future advice.
George ZL1 Camaro one day I had some clutch smoke after doing a series of "no lift shift' - but as it was 10k miles ago, i believe it was just from the heat.
I havent read any comments,u could be a good guy,but I just wanna say this.You have a bad ass car INDEED.....but u cant drive for shit man...its ok to be afraid of it & have respect for it...YOU SHOULD, with damn near 600hp (JBH) When i saw 'punishment' i thought u was gonna beat tha piss out of it! At least some kick ass burnouts.But youll be okay after u drive it for a while....dont let that bitch get away fom ya.....rookie...lol.
This is my first track ready car - I defiantly have learned about 'life on the track'. Last month I was at the NJ Motorsports and went out as HPDE class 2. I totally agree that this video when I made it (all strait lines) - I had no idea what this car can really do. I think over the next decade as I both learn the tracks for HPDE events and learn more skill as a 'race car driver' - I will improve. The ZL1 is a beast - and on a familiar road - the girl in the passenger seat gets wet. Rookie - yes..we agree I am - but some of you guys have been racing for decades - I had my head in the books.
well- before i purchased it - i was watching many videos - they were all simply "start it up and listen to the engine". I did this video so some can get an idea of what the car is like to really run.
Like this car! But if I had the money would rather have the 850hp Mustang GT500 Super Snake. More HP and quicker in the quarter mile. The Camaro has much better brakes and a smoother ride.
I think the no-lift-shift was working well - I did miss one shift and when the engine went into redline - it auto throttled down.- but usually sees to get a 4.2 or so zero to sixty. I will take it out to test and tune this spring and post the times.
sounds good, supposed to break it in for at least 1500 miles, don't go over 80mph or hard accelerations....for real...LOL.....I never followed the rules/instruction either and never had a problem. Whip it FTW.....WTF...LOL
The electronics when you set it into "track mode" take care of all of that. The engine and clutch are working together faster than we would has humans move our feet. You can no shift lift all day long....the components are electronic and the power train and engine are designed to do that work for you. Just be in a strait line - your moving a lot of horsepower!
Lol you might wanna work on that launch. That's sad to run that ZL1 like that before the break in is over. Oh well..... it either not yours or ya got more money than brains. Either way, its covered under warranty. This just seems ignorant to me. I absolutely love my ZL1.
Rudy F I have some other video with the camera on the dash (a HPDE event at watking glen, NY). The location of the camera was only to get some 'different' views of the car - and see how the Doppler effect of the sound hits the ears.
Pretty boring. Not one legit burnout....if you do launches like that, go ahead and do something good....worth watching. Unless I skipped thru it. I'd rather watch some Honda accords do some power launches instead
Drajo Silver that's a very good thought and it could be true. But to me the rear bumper still looks very cheap, I'm not sure what its made out of but it looks like brittle plastic, I'm sure its made out of a reliable material but the aesthetics aren't the best to me. Still an amazing vehicle though, cheers man thanks for sharing your camaro in the video!
Drajo Silver I recently watched a TH-cam video about how the classic cars compare with the new ones, and the guy said that the new cars are all thunder and no lightening. I think it's the other way around, they're all lightning (fast & agile) and no thunder, boring!
5:51 that great sound of a true muscle car. That is the best sound ever!
They did a great job - people always ask what I did to it..."stock" is all I say and they are like --- "no way". The sound really is the best..and inside it is just loud enough!
One of my favorite ZL1 videos.
Us "Non-ZL1 owners" can only watch in jealousy.. haha.
Maybe one day!
So true, lol.
that car deserves a set of the z28 wheels. those wheels are by far the coolest looking factory wheels i have ever seen and would make that car look wild. your welcome in advance. nice car btw.. ima gonna go on ahead and keep on dreamin.
WegotTheBOMB I hope to be looking into the 2016 and cant wait to see what options they have on the wheels! I love that these wheels are 20inch - i think the z28 is down to 19.
Got mine on 30 Sep. Love it very much. came in black with chrome wheel along with auto, sunroof, recaro seats. rarely use audio because most of the time listen to the exhaust sound when the rpm hit 3,000-4,000.
How do you like the recaro seats? Have you had it out to the track yet? I agree Phiriya Tingthanathikul the sound of the exhaust --- pipe it someplace all day long!
Better ever, now I cann't go back to my E90 BMW. It just few odd. ( Got into var accident and had to use ZL1 for 2 weeks) No time to go to track yet, but I will soon. I am actually at the Drift race. I am thinking of geting Vette Zo6 as well.
the G force meter out on the track did get to 1.08 in the sharp turns - and not even pushing it to a loss of traction (prolly close though). 1/2 tires gone on one track day - 2 track day tires replaced.
"the man that told me to study on Friday nights" im sitting here and as im writing this its Friday and I have homework but I don't want to do it then I saw that and was like better hit the books lol I have a 2014 1LT and hope to have a stingray by the time im 30 so im going to do my homework haha great video :)
DiDurk add in Saturday nights once in a while too!
Drajo Silver
Your friggin crazy! And thats why i love you man!!! Cool video.
Drajo again the clutch heavy some times softer I don't know why the ZL1 Rpm 6200?
Great Car! I would put a good aftermarket tune on the ecu & a pulley swap to unless the 600hp 590lb torque of that LSA & call it a day..& oh tint that windshield. Beautiful Muscle Car!
I love these Blue ZL1's, I am going to get a blue ZL1 and put a silver stripe package on it.
HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE INTERIOR COMPARED TO THE SRT CHALLENGER AND MUSTANG.GIVING YOUR DAD A SHOUT OUT PRICELESS.
You asked a good question about the interior. - Radio/sound system is poor compared to the Bose in my same year suburban. Everyone does brag about the feel of the shift and the steering wheel - I will agree - the microfiber is nice compared to others I have driven. Once sitting in the interior - really very basic - seats adjust to what you need - yet the seat belt never feels proper coming over the shoulder. Dash is basic - Plug in for my Iphone6 is a 'hidden" USB port - could have been nice to have that right in the front. Small cup holders. Yet the thrill of the car - every moment - the sound - how it responds - driving it over a year and still sometimes can't believe that there is more acceleration under the peddle when you give it 'just a little more' - I have taken it on some longer trips - and the hours on the track are adding up. This car is amazing - but I do not think anything about the interior will rank it better than the SRT or GT - - then again....even if the Shift of this ZL1 was a piece of rusted metal - I would still enjoy it for the raw performance it provides! Thanks about my Dad - (I am what I am today because both my parents gave me support without judgement) -
I love my triple black 2014 ZL1 with 5000 miles.
You are treating it good!
Too cool you got a tire chirp on the 1 to 2 shift AND the 2 to 3 shift.....NICE
Sonny Cool With the traction control off - you get more than a chirp! I really enjoy all the computer work going on inside - just keeping pace with the speed is a challenge.
I am laughing at how dramatic this guy is lol. the driving in the intro... then the gun shot sound effects when showing us the radio... lol Thanks for the vid
you know.. i've had 4 SS's.. and i was thinking.. was that something his phone was doing through the radio, or did GM add that secretly? lol
glad you were able to enjoy!
Really nice video and nice car!!
JessyScape - RuneScape Guides thank you! I have honestly loved this car...
I haven't hear one bad thing about braking a zl1 in like it should be driven. I am shooting for 700 hp plus in the future.
Love the car and reveiw. I've always believed if you have a few heat cycles through the moving parts you are better off beating it then babying it. Loose is fast. Period. Ever see two identical cars or trucks one being much quicker then the other? It's all in the break in, imo. No lift shift... My mouldy 406 third gen has that. Thats why I've busted third gear in 11 T5's.
thanks - hope you enjoyed
I love these camaros but one thing I don't really like is the brake lights the should redesign something that looks alot more appealing. Just my opinion though
drajo i have back klash noise from back normal starting 14.000 km
Can u tell me how many sec
0-60 ?for stuck ZL1
You will pull 3.9 Zero-60 all day long. 112 octane from the track the ZL1 will perform even better. I think a lot of the speed skill is in the proper timing of the shifts - the "no shift lift" makes it easy as you keep your foot on the accelerator the entire time. Only think for you to do is watch heads up display for your RPM - be sure to hit the shift properly. On the street - your 3.9 or a missed shift and a 4.1 are still thrilling. *****
Cool man! now put some biking videos up!
Bikin&Explorin ill add some soon...mud season is here.
Awesome car but I hate the exhaust burble or crackle. GM could do a much better job on the exhaust note. I own an '07 C6 Z51 w/m6 and I don't like the exhaust on it either. Thinking of changing out the factory H pipe for a Corsa X to eliminate the crackle.
In many ways the sound of the car seems to be unique - and you will either love it or wish it sounded different. This is just the stock sound and I can hear a ZL1 starting and its unique.
The sound of this car - particularly the "burble & crackle" - is one of its best assets.
you can def hear that supercharged v8 american muscle
Drajo Silveeeeeer........AWAAAAAAAAAAY!
you made me smile! Thank you!
What a fun video
Love the car. But the guy is a DORK!!!
thanks! let me watch your video!
LOL - but im glad you like the car
I apologize for being an ass!
Its all good!
Agreed....This guy is a complete tool. I have the same color combo only in a 13' with 5,000 miles and love the car but after watching this guy Im going to have to sell.
Awesome thinking about zl1 or stingray corvette
Very nice, just like my 2013
David Outlaw outlawhow old are you ? All yiu need is at leasr 10, 000 and your good .
Drajo the new ZL1 soon i dont know horsepower over 777 maybe ?
+George Poseidon 640 hp, its going to get the LT4 Z06 mottor. Sadly the camaro will never have more hp than the top dog corvette which right now has 650hp.
+Hassy Ali the new ZL2 will have over 700 hp thr new ss Dyno Test 435 hp corvette Z51 400 hp only will see the january big suprise for mustang Hellcat
+George Poseidon jesus christ under every vid of camaro you come with your bullshit. THERE IS NO SUCH THING LIKE A FUCKING ZL2
goddamnit got this in your head dude
and no i am not a "mustang fag boy" or something like this how you like to insult people i drive a camaro myself
Cool video and awesome zr1.
Wonder how that clutch is doing...
Doing great 50K miles
and still doing great 78,000 miles.
Tried no lift shift on my Mustang ripped out my transmission
ive done 100+ of the launch starts - and no signs of the transmission slipping yet - tires worn from track days - and the traction is even better.
Is that the blue velvet metallic ?
MrLowrider3 yes..they consider it midnight blue. Looks black sometimes, and dark blue others. I really liked the color.
Yea it is a nice blue I was looking at getting a zl1 Camaro to and when I saw this color it look really nice especially in the sun it kind of has some purple in it to
I have problem with the clutch pedal some times the clutch pedal softer some times heavy why love manual many problems now lol
George ZL1 Camaro if only 11k miles, you still should have the factory warranty. (not saying you should, but if it was me...id go out and finish the clutch off for good, have it tow'd - if your dealer does not notice the same problem. I believe our power train is covered - clutch is part of that.
The ZL1 red line 6100?
Why tje clutch some times softer heavy and burn up hill lol
when changing speeds let the clutch too fast slowly yes or no fast slowly
the I do little slowly lol its ok yes or no
What the engine break-in period like?
Really good descriptive video though.
Nothing special on the break in - this is it.
the 2010 ss had it to where during the 3000 miles, you couldn't exceed 4k rpm.
They did have information listed in the manual - but i did not follow the plan - I think on the way home i broke 9 of the 10 things they didnt want you do to - so figured...ehh. (but launch mode is so much fun!) I did wait till 4k miles to have it on the race track. I think the track day would have been too much early on---really pushed the car very hard for that day!
Drajo Silver but just some future advice, if you own this car for an extended period of time, missing that break in instruction, WILL come back to haunt you....like i said, just future advice.
I seriously want a Camaro so fucking badly but I can't afford it
+David Outlaw study and go work then
And this my friends is how you drive a car bad ass will be trading my SS sedan for a 15zl1
nice video just to ask you what do you do for a living to afford such a car ?
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That's rly nice we need more ppl like you :)
Grt for breakfast the ZL1 2014 2015 elephant Dodge hellcat mustang shellby viper ferrari 458 italia 650 hp mclaren ZL1 all day killer car
George ZL1 Camaro I am looking forward to meeting the hellcat out on the track!
I love it.
Ty
Hellcat killer?
No lift shift!!
Very fast I have 2014 camaro ZL1 2014 24 June is amazing 780 hp George poseidon B face book
Did you get it to the track yet? Georgios Camaro 1LE
well I am no where near able to afford this car but I also do bike nice to see that I can take one on the road with me.
we fit two Gary Fisher HiFi Pro in the back with all our gear - and change of cloths... Trunk folds down and lots of room!
Thr clutch smoke uphill from traffic 5 minutes later why my ZL1 only 11.000 km
George ZL1 Camaro one day I had some clutch smoke after doing a series of "no lift shift' - but as it was 10k miles ago, i believe it was just from the heat.
The ZL1 many problems lol
George Poseidon did you get your issue fixed?
Drajo Silver yes lol the new ZL1 2016 808 hp 700 hp ? 8 speed auto 7 manual
lets all type it together now..............camAro
I havent read any comments,u could be a good guy,but I just wanna say this.You have a bad ass car INDEED.....but u cant drive for shit man...its ok to be afraid of it & have respect for it...YOU SHOULD, with damn near 600hp (JBH) When i saw 'punishment' i thought u was gonna beat tha piss out of it! At least some kick ass burnouts.But youll be okay after u drive it for a while....dont let that bitch get away fom ya.....rookie...lol.
This is my first track ready car - I defiantly have learned about 'life on the track'. Last month I was at the NJ Motorsports and went out as HPDE class 2. I totally agree that this video when I made it (all strait lines) - I had no idea what this car can really do. I think over the next decade as I both learn the tracks for HPDE events and learn more skill as a 'race car driver' - I will improve. The ZL1 is a beast - and on a familiar road - the girl in the passenger seat gets wet. Rookie - yes..we agree I am - but some of you guys have been racing for decades - I had my head in the books.
I love camaro :-)
i have backklash noise back why 4 weeks now
+George Poseidon can you post some of what the sound is?
Back clash noise back from transmission is cadilac corvette same noise the new ZL1 comes
looks like a 2014 rear with a 2013 front.
They stated if they had to change the front a "lot" of redesign would have had to take place
WHY THEY GOTTA FUQ UP THE BACK LIGHTS??? NO GOOD. NO BUENO!
looks like a cadillac!
They use the retro styling from the late 60s, every knows that
Run the hell out of it and trade it at 50k, no harm- no foul, its a high performance car, enjoy it and I'm certain you are.
I agree Sid
"Look at me! Look at me! Look what I can do!"
well- before i purchased it - i was watching many videos - they were all simply "start it up and listen to the engine". I did this video so some can get an idea of what the car is like to really run.
And not one donut, 180, anything like that. Just all launches and hauling ass passing the camera.....wow cooooooooooooool
Like this car! But if I had the money would rather have the 850hp Mustang GT500 Super Snake. More HP and quicker in the quarter mile. The Camaro has much better brakes and a smoother ride.
Your no-lift-shift isn't working.
I think the no-lift-shift was working well - I did miss one shift and when the engine went into redline - it auto throttled down.- but usually sees to get a 4.2 or so zero to sixty. I will take it out to test and tune this spring and post the times.
sounds good, supposed to break it in for at least 1500 miles, don't go over 80mph or hard accelerations....for real...LOL.....I never followed the rules/instruction either and never had a problem. Whip it FTW.....WTF...LOL
Never been one for the rules - but in the end - you are right..could be problems for the car later on. For now...don't buy this one used from me. LOL
no lift shift ? as in powershifting?
Just never take your foot off the gas - the comp and car figure out the rest.
No lift shift or"power shift" is bad for the clutch
The electronics when you set it into "track mode" take care of all of that. The engine and clutch are working together faster than we would has humans move our feet. You can no shift lift all day long....the components are electronic and the power train and engine are designed to do that work for you. Just be in a strait line - your moving a lot of horsepower!
This poor car is being abused 😂😭 I had to cover the eyes of my ZL1 while watching this video.
+Jonathan T still running strong - waiting to trade for the 640 HP 2017!
Drajo Silver Good to hear! I'd never trade in my 5th gen ZL1 for the 6th personally though. Amazing stats but I hate the look personally lol.
we fit 2 mountain bikes and all our gear in this ZL1, so i hope the 2017 lets us do the same!
Drajo Silver It actually has more width and height over the previous gen so the trunk should be the same size if not a little bigger.
Lol you might wanna work on that launch. That's sad to run that ZL1 like that before the break in is over. Oh well..... it either not yours or ya got more money than brains. Either way, its covered under warranty. This just seems ignorant to me. I absolutely love my ZL1.
What's faster and better? The ZL1 or the SS?
the ZL1 is faster
ZL1 camaro 2016 2017 will use 777 hp LTK 666 torque 7 manual 8 speeds auto next my ZL1
George Poseidon 2016 or 2017 - im dying for an upgrade with more HP. (hope they match the tires and brakes) Track day is just way too much fun!
+Drajo Silver will use 777 hp 666 torque 8 speeds 7 manual I cant wait ZL1 2016
How much dit it cost you?
Automatic transmission faster manual automatic top now lol
Why did you drive so close to the camera? To make it seem you are faster than you really are? LOL.
he doesn't need that.. the ZL1 is not a crappy over priced import.. its actually one of the best valuable cars in the world... LOL
Lol..but its still a cheap Chevy..Lol
Rudy F I have some other video with the camera on the dash (a HPDE event at watking glen, NY). The location of the camera was only to get some 'different' views of the car - and see how the Doppler effect of the sound hits the ears.
I guess this was just an acceleration shoot...because this car really excels on a road course no?...
*Camaro
do not like the new lights on the back
The clutch you to much used lol soon new clutch
George Giannopoulos Clutch still holding strong.
George Giannopoulos 26k and clutch still strong
Nice Ride! New taillights suck though. Look like a 2000 Honda Prelude's! Shame on you Chevy!
I see a few people post they don't like the new look - I assure you -- wasn't my idea!
Im sorry but for being brand new.. you're pushing that car wayyyyy to hard.
Pretty boring. Not one legit burnout....if you do launches like that, go ahead and do something good....worth watching. Unless I skipped thru it. I'd rather watch some Honda accords do some power launches instead
That rear bumper looks so cheap and the tail lights are so ugly compared to last years model :(
Many people have the same thought as you - I think its "what one gets used to first" then when it changes - the mind never sees it the 'right' way!
Drajo Silver that's a very good thought and it could be true. But to me the rear bumper still looks very cheap, I'm not sure what its made out of but it looks like brittle plastic, I'm sure its made out of a reliable material but the aesthetics aren't the best to me. Still an amazing vehicle though, cheers man thanks for sharing your camaro in the video!
Drajo corvette z06 better ZL1 2015 2016 maybe the new ZL1 808 hp turbo 6.5 8 speed auto 7 manual Camaro 1LE special edition 650 hp 2016
George ZL1 Camaro share the link if you can. i am looking to see the stats on the new 2016 ZL1 thanks!
Love my ZL1 2015 killer very faster recaro seats 5 gen for ever 2016 Camaro ugly
George Poseidon Hope I can fit my mountain bikes into back of the gen 6 -
Boring! I'll take a '69 Camaro over this rig any day!
strait away - and for nostalgic style I will agree with you! But out on the track - this suspension...ohh man..
Drajo Silver
I recently watched a TH-cam video about how the classic cars compare with the new ones, and the guy said that the new cars are all thunder and no lightening. I think it's the other way around, they're all lightning (fast & agile) and no thunder, boring!
doublej118jc boring? a zl1? try to drive one in track mode... those kids see a car in youtube and they already talk how the car behave... LOL
David Outlaw outlawhow old are you ? All yiu need is at leasr 10, 000 and your good .