The Unwritten Rules of Dragon Ball’s Art

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  • @NoName......
    @NoName...... 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4007

    Toriyama really made super sayian so it would be easier to ink the hair, then made cell, which is the most annoyingly detailed character to draw

    • @stormmist3634
      @stormmist3634 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +120

      not for me though, I’m a fan of cells design, best villian design in dbz

    • @emperortoho
      @emperortoho 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +491

      he made cell spotted so his assistants had something to do as his bosses threatened to fire them

    • @Gensolink
      @Gensolink 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

      tbh cell probably wouldnt have been realized without the editor even if he ended up being plan C (heh)

    • @mononavidenho
      @mononavidenho 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@emperortoho really?

    • @emperortoho
      @emperortoho 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +154

      @@mononavidenho yeah, he did nearly all the work himself before cell so his assistants didn't have much to do so they were going to be let go

  • @dr_classified
    @dr_classified 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +702

    I think the coolest thing about Toriyama's art is that it looks so simple to draw at first, especially in the facial features, but it's those subtle nuances to the style that really end up making it so deceptively simple, yet harder to draw in practive, and that's what makes it one of the most uniquely intriguing artstyles I've seen yet.

    • @LTKami
      @LTKami 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      THIS
      This style is so challenging in an awesome way! I started drawing DBZ stuff about 3ish months ago and this differences from when I started to now are CRAZY. The hardest detail was always the faces due to how cartoony they are compared to the rest of the body, the eyes were the worst. But overtime, like Mark said, I had unlearned the logic of faces to make them finally work.

    • @elimDBZ
      @elimDBZ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@LTKamiso I'm not the only one. I drew DB related art as a way to channel me energy due to the passing of Toriyama and even though I drew some DB art in the past seeing how challenging it was to actually draw dragon ball art was shocking to say the leao

    • @LTKami
      @LTKami 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@elimDBZ He made it look so easy fr

    • @angelwithashotgun2230
      @angelwithashotgun2230 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Exactly, I see a lot of TH-cam artists who can draw most anime like a printer but they fail to draw dragon ball characters as they're and it looks off usually (unless their channel is dedicated yo dragon ball)

    • @specialnewb9821
      @specialnewb9821 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@LTKami even the games finally realized you need to break the 3d models to make it look right

  • @NotJpTem
    @NotJpTem 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1220

    It's honestly incredible how much Toriyama's art style morphed over his life and yet still, no matter how wildly different Goku looks in the Buu Saga from the Pilaf Arc, he still retains the look that literally screams, "Hey, it's me, Goku!"

    • @Videospiel-Man5730
      @Videospiel-Man5730 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      Im a saiyan! From earth!

    • @6Angello1
      @6Angello1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      I heard youre pretty strong

    • @7maGic094
      @7maGic094 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Wanna fight?

    • @SDAWG-69
      @SDAWG-69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@7maGic094i heard you beat cancer you must be really strong wanna fight

    • @Starlight-ue8jy
      @Starlight-ue8jy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@SDAWG-69me to the guy that found the cure to cancer:

  • @lobisomemfacanha4817
    @lobisomemfacanha4817 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +443

    4:30 this was SUCH a revelation for me.

    • @LinkEX
      @LinkEX 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      It kinda makes sense why we perceive the direction of sight better that way.
      At least assuming that light is coming from the direction the character is looking, making the lines of the eyes the impression of a slight shadow.

    • @samueldeadman5733
      @samueldeadman5733 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      It really.... opened your eyes..?🤭

    • @redacted5035
      @redacted5035 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Its like animation 101 stuff 😐

  • @wesleybcrowen
    @wesleybcrowen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +269

    I now want a comprehensive breakdown on Jojo's art styles, that one is truly an insane ride through the ages.

    • @jacobjensen7704
      @jacobjensen7704 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      YES! SECONDED!!

    • @musak.3795
      @musak.3795 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Please

    • @milesparker557
      @milesparker557 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Even just the style change throughout Diamond is Unbreakable is already crazy.

    • @Pumpkin7269
      @Pumpkin7269 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Jojo and One Piece both need there own videos like this

    • @tristanjeromepauly1276
      @tristanjeromepauly1276 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Imma like and comment so he may see this

  • @dolger4308
    @dolger4308 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1762

    For archival purposes, the og title of this video was: "Drawing Dragon Ball is harder than you think."

    • @Hazzyhues
      @Hazzyhues 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Thanks

    • @BardockSkywalker
      @BardockSkywalker 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

      I wish they kept that title, cause it's so true

    • @MonkeMan2.0
      @MonkeMan2.0 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      I thought I was going crazy when the title changed, thank you for your archival service!

    • @schizophrenic_rambler
      @schizophrenic_rambler 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Why was it changed?

    • @CleanMario
      @CleanMario 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      ​@@schizophrenic_rambler money

  • @redheadmedia7901
    @redheadmedia7901 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +202

    I would love to see a video going over Toyotaro's art style as well. From the days he was working on Dragon Ball AF to now, he's improved A LOT over the years. A comparison to Toriyama would also be pretty cool, discussing everything he's learned from where he used to be up to now. The Superhero arc really impressed me with his art, Cell Max looked so cool and nothing like we've ever seen in Dragon Ball before.

    • @svenotta
      @svenotta 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I'd love to see that! Sadly people still only look at his flaws more than his progress...

    • @ASpaceOstrich
      @ASpaceOstrich 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'm really looking forward to the mangas return. Toyotaro has been cooking recently.

    • @schizophrenic_rambler
      @schizophrenic_rambler 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@svenottaI mean, who would choose to bring back cellphone in his semi-perfect form?

    • @tyjones9864
      @tyjones9864 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@svenottathis so much. I HATE going to random spaces and seeing people shit on Toyo’s art or give it backhanded compliments like, “he’s gotten better but he’ll never be as good as AT!!”
      It really irritates the hell out of me. He’s phenomenal.

    • @Taoishim
      @Taoishim 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I used to think Toyotaro's art was fine until I started learning more about drawing. proportions, anatomy, perspective, and so on. Now I think his art is just ok.

  • @Kaioshin9000
    @Kaioshin9000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +271

    I always had this conversation with people they always reference the Anime and yeah they really do all look the same to cut corners, but in the manga and Toriyama’s actual drawings everyone looks different with there unique designs and features. Toriyama is a genius

    • @cj-ew6xg
      @cj-ew6xg 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Android 18 Definitely Is One Of The Best Drawings Toriyama Made In My Opinion Her style of Cloth Was Really cool lmao

    • @kauanjos3199
      @kauanjos3199 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      The anime art doesn't even come close to the manga, even in traced panels. Truly a irreplaceable experience

  • @kevinkite3418
    @kevinkite3418 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    What I love the most about Toriyama's art is that it's a style that screams it's his art. Every artist has defining characteristics in their art, of course, but Toriyama does this in everything: the way he drew eyes, hair, clothing, vehicles, houses, trees, mountais, impact lines, everything was very authoral.

  • @RodneyKing-kz3ym
    @RodneyKing-kz3ym 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +145

    The iconic “Dragonball stare” that many characters like Goku are known for was reportedly drawn from Bruce Lee as an inspiration. One thing I can say about Toriyama is that he really did a solid job of combining all of his interests into his work while making something that felt unique enough on its own.

    • @ZoiusGM
      @ZoiusGM หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ''reportedly drawn from Bruce Lee as an inspiration'' Thanks for the source chief. I believe you.

  • @ssjmotamo2153
    @ssjmotamo2153 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

    One of Toriyama’s older details that I like to use is the lines he would put on the back of peoples hands sometimes in early dragon ball, it was always a cool feature to me.

  • @Artixes
    @Artixes 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +815

    Everytime I draw piccolo I dread the amount of lines I need to do…

    • @dunwuco179
      @dunwuco179 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      Ngl the lines are kinda fun cuz u can just turn your brain off

    • @westy1637
      @westy1637 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      Just draw Orange Piccolo. Most of the lines are gone lol

    • @stormmist3634
      @stormmist3634 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I just don’t even draw the lines lol

    • @ScienceMagicStudios
      @ScienceMagicStudios 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      cocaine is a helluva drug

    • @najadamu2724
      @najadamu2724 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@westy1637 Or even just Piccolo's "Potential Unleashed" form

  • @patrickilse5485
    @patrickilse5485 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    I absolutely agree to 7:40. A shape of a "normal" face, drawn with the Loomis method for example will most likely fail. Instead, you actually have to come up with your own shape for sketching Dragon Ball faces.

  • @HaveYouTriedGuillotines
    @HaveYouTriedGuillotines หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    4:15
    I absolutely did notice this.
    When I was much younger I had a dream of learning to draw, and I wanted to learn specifically in a style similar to Toriyama, to make my own... Well, I'd say manga, but everyone just knew it all as "anime" back then, even the comics.
    I remember struggling with 3 quarter views in general, but in doing so this was one of the things I picked up. There were lots of little things I noticed, like how Toriyama rarely made anything out of circles (I was using examples well into DBZ), and instead built round shapes like eyes and faces out of curved and straightish lines. The neat trick here is that doing this implies a great deal of detail without actually needing to explicitly draw all of it.

  • @Celtic1020
    @Celtic1020 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    14:08 This isn't only the evolution of his style. It's what he had time to do. He never would have drawn these for the actual manga and that's clear with his drawings for DB Super.

  • @ElixirofLife42
    @ElixirofLife42 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Totally Not Mark, despite not being the main theme of the channel, is my favorite art TH-camr. This is because not only does he draw something I enjoy very much but its really because he also talks about very interesting and related things whilst doing so, which is extremely entertaining to me.

  • @ChibiTails
    @ChibiTails 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    9:05 "...And with it comes HUGE muscles as a running trend"
    I'd like to point out that the increase in muscle size in the Cell Saga was so great that it LITERALLY became a plot point!

  • @VencentCross
    @VencentCross 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    man, remember when EVERY character knew martial arts and had a unique stance and way of punching/kicking defined by what martial art they practice?
    it wasnt always consistent and its not like they would say "this guy uses Mui Tai" but yea, characters used to have distinct poses based on how they fight and NOW everyone does the same Karate/Body Builder pose with arms out to the sides, elbows at the waist, chin tucked down. (or they dont take a stance AT ALL and just STAND THERE IN THE AIR!)

    • @seigeengine
      @seigeengine หลายเดือนก่อน

      Honestly, in my opinion the series should have ended with Frieza at the absolute most, and even that's being generous.

  • @goldsocks9999
    @goldsocks9999 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Toriyama will be a legend to us all, it barely feels real that he's gone.

  • @aidanshowers8366
    @aidanshowers8366 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I love watching style studies and breakdowns. And this one might just be my favorite, no stone feels unturned and it really shows an understanding of Toriyama’s sensibilities in every style, as well as showing the upper limits of where dragon ball can be pushed before it starts to loose that dragon ball identity.

  • @ruben3438
    @ruben3438 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Mark, please make more art videos, I love your analysis on it and watching you guys draw is always very interesting.

  • @GVKfan
    @GVKfan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    0:01 I really loved the use of dragon ball legend's theme for the intro

  • @rhondahoward8025
    @rhondahoward8025 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    2:56
    "Dude, your neck!"
    "What about it?"
    "You _have_ one!"

  • @Die4Gesichter
    @Die4Gesichter 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    16:11 it's not like ive forgotten that Toriyama died, but this ahocked me again
    I was like "WHAT!? WHEN!?.. oh right.."
    Rip 🧡

  • @theflashfan3234
    @theflashfan3234 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    A person's artstyle is really just that particular artist's shorthand for conveying certain information visually (usually developed from an understanding of drawing fundamentals), and keeps changing throughout your career depending on what you draw, the tone, and even just personal taste.
    And as such, they will always end up having a greater understanding than anyone else of it, because they know the thinking behind it that an imitator won't. I really liked that you pointed out the eyes in the video, because it's something that a beginner would see as just a tip to keep in mind, but likely for Toriyama, it stemmed from an understanding of how the eye works in 3D space, and why at least that is important for relating emotion to the reader (since most of the feature PLACEMENT is warped to enhance expression over realism).
    This is why it's easy to tell apart artists who learn drawing by imitating a specific artstyle vs. an artist that is forming their own from their understanding of the fundamentals and the requirement of their work. It's why blindly imitating an artstyle can instill wrong habits and stunt your growth as a beginner artist.
    EDIT: and yeah, the Buu Arc really took a slip in the art department. For every panel of Ultimate Gohan that looks badass, there's three panels with stick arms, but a neck fatter than a hippo's ass

    • @seigeengine
      @seigeengine หลายเดือนก่อน

      Doing anything blindly stunts your growth. Nearly kills it even.
      The problem isn't in the imitating, but in not trying to understand it. Not intellectually engaging with the process.

  • @heatnova
    @heatnova 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    As a newbie artist, i never thought i needed a video like this so bad until it came to me

  • @Painted_Owl
    @Painted_Owl 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s been… so long since I’ve felt excitement towards drawing, but this video change that. I had forgotten how much I enjoy drawing and inking, but you’ve genuinely reminded me. Thank you for that.
    Now, what I’d really love to see is a video on Toriyama-sama’s design development with the Dragon Quest series, or even a Toriyama X Amano study where Amano’s Final Fantasy characters are drawn in DQ styles and vice-versa.

  • @southecko2172
    @southecko2172 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Absolutely love this idea for a video! I’ve studied Toriyama’s art style for years and am very familiar with the evolution and all the artists here absolutely NAILED each one. Excellent work!

  • @AnnamatopoeiaArt
    @AnnamatopoeiaArt วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Bless you for this video. I've been trying to do more studies not just from real life but also from cartoons as a way to work on my stylization. I bought the first 3 in 1 manga for DBZ in like middle school and lately I realized just how much I ADORE how Toriyama tackled anatomy from the DB 3 year time skip through most of the Sayian arch. The sense of solidness?? with the softness of Dragon Ball remaining will forever be my favorite Dragon Ball style. I was having trouble with my studies and decided to see if I could find any interviews with Toriyama and I ended up here! A wonderful resource for me as I incorporate some of DB's anatomy into my own work. (Now if only I could figure out how to make background and vehicles like his lol)

  • @dullahan1
    @dullahan1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Seeing the first drawing on this video fascinates me most, and is something I always thought about would be cool if more explored.
    I had always thought about how interesting it'd be if Z-era Dragon Ball characters in particular, maybe Super, were drawn in an early Dragon Ball style how it'd look. Like thinking about if Toriyama had kept his initial art style instead of evolving it, how characters such as Piccolo, Vegeta, Trunks, Freeza, and Cell for example, how different they'd look.
    I know it was hard, but thanks for doing this video. These art videos are the ones on this channel that excite me the most. Toriyama is such a hard style to nail down as it looks so deceptively simple!

  • @SuperCartoonist
    @SuperCartoonist 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    7:33 Don't forget about the games that have a 3D model of the character. If you want the best results of drawing the characters, use the 3D models as a reference.

  • @moonman8450
    @moonman8450 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    As someone who learned to draw Dragonball during school life this video is a gift, like all my thoughts I couldn’t express put into words

  • @saturdaykiro945
    @saturdaykiro945 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As an aspiring artist (right now I work only with pixel art), I cannot describe how valuable these kind of videos are. **please** do more, with other manga authors too! Love Toriyama, I cannot describe how much his work has fundamentally shaped my expectations towards other art ❤

  • @M.A.Sketchbook
    @M.A.Sketchbook 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I really enjoy the way you are able to break down what's going on in Toriyamas' work. The format of your channel in general is super compelling, Awesome video!

  • @derekg5006
    @derekg5006 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    16:53 on the topic of Baki, I hope somebody makes an analysis fo the history of Baki's artstyle. It intrigues me so much, you can tell the thought process behind Keisuke Itagaki as he draws in a different way every way. His art style would go from cartoonish, to realistic, to abstract between each manga installment and it is so interesting to see how incredibly different yet similar they could look

  • @sam65549
    @sam65549 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey man, thank you so much for uploading. Especially after everything you have been through over these past few years. Your content really helps people get through rough days. My mother almost overdosed today, and watching your videos are really helping me calm down after a stressful day. You help many people just pushing through and uploading. You deserve all the love and support you get and more some. Thank you for making awesome content, and again thank you for letting people escape life for a few minutes.❤

  • @loleo123
    @loleo123 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I missed these drawing commentary videos! Learned a bunch whilst got to see you guys flex! Love it!

  • @arilumani6194
    @arilumani6194 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    You should definitely dedicate the entire month of October to Devilman for Halloween. First you start with the original manga, then the sequel, Devil Lady, then Amon: The Apocalypse of Devilman and finally finish it with a video talking about all the adaptations: The 70s anime, the 80s OVA, the Devil Lady anime, the Amon OVA, the live-action movie from 2004 and finally Devilman Crybaby. It is considered Go Nagai's magnum opus and it's said to be ahead of its time in terms of dark shounen. It is even considered an inspiration for Chainsaw Man.

    • @VegetaandGoku_Gaming
      @VegetaandGoku_Gaming 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I thought you were talking about devilman from the original dragon ball 😭

    • @KairuHakubi
      @KairuHakubi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      oh yeah, youtube would LOVE that.

    • @arilumani6194
      @arilumani6194 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KairuHakubi All Mark has to do is censor the gore and nudity similar to what he did when he reviewed Berserk and Chainsaw Man.

    • @KairuHakubi
      @KairuHakubi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@arilumani6194 how funnnn
      and I'm sure youtube won't just decide to change their rules and throw nasty surprises at him. it's guaranteed income!

    • @21eienni
      @21eienni 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Devilman has way more manga than that. There's:
      Maō Dante (as the "prototype", kinda)
      Devilman (which has several editions and some editions actually change stuff, like the spider demon arc)
      Violence Jack
      Shin Devilman
      Shin Maō Dante
      Devilman Lady
      Neo Devilman
      Siren Tanjō-Hen
      Demon Knight
      Devilman Saga (which is the last part of the "main" continuity)
      Gekiman (autobiography that tells how the manga was made, has redrawn scenes and even some scenes he couldn't put in the original manga)
      And the crossovers like Cutie Honey VS Devilman Lady and Devilman VS Getter Robo, etc
      Akira Fudo even appears in Mazin Saga.
      And that's just to count the stuff done by Nagai and his team. There's still a bunch of other spinoff like Devilman Grimoire, Devilman VS Hades, Cyborg 009 VS Devilman, and more.
      Same for the anime, Akira Fudo appears in Shin Cutey Honey, there's the Cyborg 009 VS Devilman crossover that has the most faithful adaptation of the Jinmen fight, the original Toei anime IS NOT an adaptation of the manga as it was made alongside the manga. There's also the Mazinger Z VS Devilman animated movie with the old Toei anime. There's also Violence Jack OVA.
      It's a loooot. Even if you wanted to just read the "main continuity", well almost each manga add something to what you knew before, like to Zennon.

  • @Saotome94
    @Saotome94 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'd be interested in seeing more redraws of modern manga scenes using the mangakas style in their early chapters. So many artists change their style drastically by the end of their run that it'd be interesting to see if certain panels have the same impact if the style remained the same.

    • @KairuHakubi
      @KairuHakubi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      seriously, between this and The Harry Gold Show, all of animation seems to be covered and mastered.

  • @Gaia_BentosZX5
    @Gaia_BentosZX5 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As in, there's no in-house rules, as those can change as time goes on when an artist hones his skills and adapts to new techniques. I still remember how AI bros used "adapt or die!" as a TAUNT, but fail to understand we artists have been doing exactly that for years: pretty much an unwritten rule, while the "adapt" part is true, what the AI bros fail to understand is that the turtle school mantra rings true for all artists, big or small. Goku DOES meditate, in his own way as he rests, since it's one of the defining traits of Taoism and Buddhism. Why Cell is a terrifying foe as he's a technorganic machine made up of stolen data of various fighters around the globe and his very existence is an affront to life itself.

  • @RodneyKing-kz3ym
    @RodneyKing-kz3ym 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think Toriyama took a lot of artistic leaning and influence from Osamu Tezuka, at least early on. The hair thing, the shape and the way it flipped was reminiscent of Astro Boy. The hair losing its spot black or “shining” when he turned Super Saiyan is also reminiscent of Astro Boy when Astro hit 1 million horsepower and transformed into a super powered fighting mode, just like super saiyan ended up doing.
    Toriyama made claims publicly concerning why he did certain things, but if you track his influences and see the similarities it doesn’t seem like a mere coincidence. He also borrowed from Star Wars and heavily from Terminator (T2) for the Android saga. He drew based on his inspirations, and it showed.

  • @LostSoulSilver
    @LostSoulSilver 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    0:54 Song is Dragon Ball Legends main theme

    • @Flex-np9rm
      @Flex-np9rm 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thx. I knew it was familiar but couldn’t figure why

  • @drewwilliams7794
    @drewwilliams7794 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    90’s and early early 2000’s was my favorite look

  • @NighstarLayla
    @NighstarLayla 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have to ve absolutely honest, my favorite toriyama style is the modern one, i adore the way he made everything so circular and happy,it really shows whats what he thought was the best part of his work, and my personal favorite too, it also lends itself to more stuff, it is a drsgon ball style, but is also a dragon quest, a sandland, it encompases a lot of his work

  • @JPMaverickX7
    @JPMaverickX7 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As an artist, I gotta say this helped a lot with some aspects I was missing. Thanks to Mark and Team! You've helped me greatly!

  • @TequilaSun8097
    @TequilaSun8097 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s amazing how much Marks art has improved over the years. I’m consistently impressed to see his work

  • @augo5658
    @augo5658 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video made me tear up near the end. This video helped me realize that Toriyama was one of the greatest artists of our time and I'm glad I've been able to spend my life with such a unique and amazingly talented fan base. May your legacy live on.
    Rest in Peace Toriyama. ❤

  • @TheJege12
    @TheJege12 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Absolutely beautiful art from everone involved!
    Also I think I finally understand why I don't like the current main series style... the lineart.
    It's so thin and just takes the life away from most of the work.

  • @Niall_Sene
    @Niall_Sene 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I would say my favourite era of Dragon Ball's art (by Toriyama in the manga) is in the Namek Saga, it feels like the perfect inbetween of what came before in the Saiyan saga and what will come later. I also really like the less "serious" feeling of the art in earlier arcs. Dragon Ball will always have one of my favourite fundamental styles, Akira Toriyama created something amazing.

  • @kakashi11213
    @kakashi11213 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    15:42 man the left style is just perfection, I wish that stayed, maybe super wouldn’t look like everyone needed a good meal 🙁

    • @Taima
      @Taima 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      People just need to learn/remember not to blame Super's artists for that. If anything, we should be thanking them that despite how even they themselves might possibly feel about it, they remained faithful to that skinniness.
      That said I too prefer a more muscular look. Buu arc was largely peak visual DBZ for me (anime, manga is kinda mixed).

  • @Arifinity_
    @Arifinity_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I was just watching your old re-drawing video's I love these!!

  • @fabiendalmasso
    @fabiendalmasso หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a french mangaka deeply influenced by Toriyama's career, I want to thank you for this wonderful analysis. I loved every minute of it. and yeah... If I had to choose, I would go back to Freeza's arc or Cell's arc style as my favourite. Thanks again !

  • @mechajay3358
    @mechajay3358 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video does its job of really going over Toriyama's evolution as a artist and what made his art style so unique. Its also pretty cool how you go into Toyotaro's way of designing characters.

  • @cicofolle4474
    @cicofolle4474 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What I liked about toryama style in dragon ball , it's as the story and power levels goes up the art follow the same path , and make feels the character's growing up and progression

  • @LightBringer666
    @LightBringer666 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i personally love and try to emulate murata's dragonball drawings. it's a right mix of realistic artstyle that's a defining factor of his work on the OPM Manga, while keeping a hint of dragonball rules. the eyes are a very nice mix of old round and later sharp square shapes that toriyama drew, if anyone truly understood the assignment while keeping their personal style fully in the drawings, it's Murata for sure

  • @PGVchannel
    @PGVchannel 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Interesting video. I keep thinking Toriyama's artsyle peak was buu saga, at least standing by my personal taste.

  • @jo.comics
    @jo.comics 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am working on my own comic and a hell of a lot of it is inspired by Dragon Ball and Akira Toriyama's writing style in particular. I love the expansive worlds of One Piece, MHA, JJK, etc. but there's something so wonderfully simple about DB that always draws me back in and inspires me. I think the fact that a lot of it was improvised really speaks to me, I have a similar attention span, and then fact that he was never afraid of changing his story in whatever direction he felt like. He was really a fantastic artist and it's gonna be a weird world for some more time without his influence in it.

    • @seigeengine
      @seigeengine หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's absolutely wild to me to hear people list MHA or JJK with DB, and especially with OP on expansive worlds.

    • @jo.comics
      @jo.comics หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@seigeengine Why?

    • @seigeengine
      @seigeengine หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jo.comics Well, because neither MHA nor JJK really have expansive worlds.
      In fact, I'd argue they're basically examples of series with practically no world-building. JJK is basically just the real world, and while MHA does have some more world building to it, it's still basically at a bare minimum to account for it's basic premise of a world where super hero powers are nigh-universal.
      In contrast, Dragon Ball is an expansive world with many places, peoples, organizations, etc. with it's own technologies, corporations, etc.
      And then One Piece is practically the gold standard for world building, and one of the most expansive settings going.

    • @jo.comics
      @jo.comics หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@seigeengine Well, I'd argue that world-building doesn't always necessitate building giant, intricate fantasy worlds like One Piece. JJK has a very thoughtfully built magic system and great lore surrounding the specific characters involved, which is world-building, too. MHA does fall more into the fantasy realm. Yes, it's our world but in the future and with a fairly cleverly designed power system. Not the most complex but that's fine, it's a good example of using a world to tell a gripping story. Arguably, Dragon Ball has really poor world-building, since non of the places were remotely planned out. It's a very fun and engaging world but it's not thought-out, it's very improvised and that's remarkable in its own right.

    • @jo.comics
      @jo.comics หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@seigeengine Though no arguing about One Piece, that definitely is the gold standard. Even if there's a lot of improv there, too, it's a thoughtful enough world that it makes sense.

  • @mythwing
    @mythwing 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It would be interesting to see you talk about the various artist that have handled the promotional art for the series. There's a lot of talent there and I think that it would be cool for them to get a nod for what they've done for the series as well.

  • @jumanism5681
    @jumanism5681 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Such a great, interesting video. As a person who cant draw to save their life it’s awesome to hear how deep you can go in analyzing drawing style

  • @thegroovynacho3389
    @thegroovynacho3389 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    0:04 what is this from

    • @arbetor12
      @arbetor12 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      A long lost TV ad if I recall.
      I know Ajay did a video on this

  • @JeromeProductions
    @JeromeProductions 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    looking back.. dragon ball influenced so many things for me... it started my anime watching journey, manga reading journey, anime styled drawing journey... just so much things. rest in peace toriyama..

  • @Alex-17720
    @Alex-17720 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Would definitely be interested in seeing how other artists like toyotaro, or even some of the animators like Misaki Satos progression and evolution in there own DB art style. Maybe as a sort of follow up to this as a comparison to toriyama’s art style here

  • @emanuelbugaj7078
    @emanuelbugaj7078 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great and detailed breakdown of Toriama's art progressiaon over the years. Trully amazing how in depth, analitic it was and how well you understand what makes Toriama's art so special and distinguishible.

  • @Jahjaga
    @Jahjaga 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Incredible video. My favorite part might be the discussion of Toriyama musculature. I think it puts so clearly into focus why some people adamantly prefer his work over Toyotarou’s even when comparing a Tori manga panel to a Toyo cover. It’s just preference and audience comfort with the older design.

  • @MrRobot22
    @MrRobot22 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As someone who is familiar with DB but not a superfan this video is amazing, I didn't know about the style evolution of the manga, this stuff is fascinating

  • @neptuneart551
    @neptuneart551 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m so glad you’ve made this video. I completely agree with the fact that you can draw dragon ball in many different ways and it still looks like dragon ball. I’m proud of my style, I’ve worked hard at understanding these unspoken rules and how to take other stylistic liberties to make things feel like my own. So thankful for Akira, may he live on forever through us all. ❤

  • @HeroYoshi1115
    @HeroYoshi1115 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How the eyes are done when looking in a direction it reminds me of when I was learning perspective drawing utilizing light as a vanishing point to show where the light source is at.

  • @ritsubo3879
    @ritsubo3879 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Mark, great video! I'd LOVE another episode of this series analyzing Toyotaro's art traits 🙌🏻

  • @SNTBord_1127
    @SNTBord_1127 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What made me love mr. Toriyama's art (that influenced my 'artistic begining')was that he differs from japanese 80's art style (the time he begins) and, particulary, the 90/2000 art style (when i watched for the 1st time). His last approaches wasn't for my taste, but i can understand he had new artististic choices.

  • @FrankEShaw05
    @FrankEShaw05 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I go back and forth between the 23rd tenkaichi budokai and the sayian arc for which era’s art style is my favourite. The balance of detail and dynamism in the saiyan arc is incredible, but the slightly more lighthearted approach to proportions in the tenkaichi budokai also really appeals to me (I especially love how scary piccolo is drawn in that arc)

  • @RaindropsBleeding
    @RaindropsBleeding 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It's remarkable how the style can evolve so much, and still be undeniably Goku, then one artist breaks the rules and.. 17:35 ... ugh! I can tell it's *trying* to be goku, but not only am I struggling to convince my brain that's Goku, I'm struggling to understand why.

  • @rageskash7869
    @rageskash7869 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When I was studying Toriyamas work for a fan manga I was making I had to find a lot of things out for my self, this video really would of helped back then😂

  • @Sausage_Rock
    @Sausage_Rock 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man. Watching this video made me realize how distinct is the way I draw DB compared to the manga and such. But it also helped me understand the style more! Definetly will take all the info from this video in mind to help me out with my future DB drawings! Fantastic video as always Mark 👍

  • @hasanwith1s
    @hasanwith1s 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude my jaw dropped when you brought on Eegii for this video 💀 He's made some of the most amazing Dragon Ball art I've ever seen!

  • @LosDefinit
    @LosDefinit 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude I subbed to you years ago and even bought one of your hoodies with that like peach UI goku design (still one of my favorites) glad to see you still killing it especially after that whole drama thing

  • @TVlord5
    @TVlord5 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The one change I kept waiting for you to mention was around the Buu arc and seemed to be carried over for a lot of both his designs and others during certain...other tours. The necks DRASTICALLY shrunk again for a lot of characters.
    Like you mentioned for Cell they all got super beefy necks, but then suddenly for Buu on a lot of characters started sporting much thinner necks with much squarer heads. It sticks out the most with Mr Satan especially, and while I'm sure that was more intentional to show him aging and weakening, a lot of other characters seem to follow that style.
    Originally he had a neck that was wider than his head at the base and tapered up. But buu onward his neck started shrinking until it almost takes on more of a tube shape going into a very blocky head. And you really start seeing that design a lot more I feel

  • @christopherstevens337
    @christopherstevens337 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the cell and buu saga were the influence on my art growing up and even up to now. toriyama is very much the reason for me getting into drawing. its funny cuz I never saw most of his early 2000's style but man does it make me want to look more into it. Thank you for this video. RIP to the Goat.

  • @alexput
    @alexput 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    10:46 mark says "and the next one up issssssssss..." ad plays and says: FLANKLIN UNIVERSITY!!!!

  • @BellaFalk95
    @BellaFalk95 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always have problems with which manga book I need to look at to get the art right. This video helped with how I should think when using the manga as reference.

  • @mcha226
    @mcha226 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are dead on about the the flipping line. The drawing tutorial book by Toriyama explicitly mentioned about that, saying that's being counter intuitive but works surprisingly.

  • @HirokiPlays
    @HirokiPlays 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    26 years... I've been drawing Dragonball characters for 26 years... And I didn't know about the fact that the eye lines face the same direction when the characters look to the side... Now I know why my eyes on the furthest side always looked cluttered or difficult to capture the correct perspective! You guys are awesome...

  • @twistyplayz7182
    @twistyplayz7182 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Do more dragon ball redraw videos. I enjoyed them a lot

    • @C052-ip9zs
      @C052-ip9zs 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same

  • @thequestbro
    @thequestbro 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Toyotaro's career after super wraps up is going to be very interesting to talk about. The man is living his dream right now. I hope his zest for Manga does not die. I remember discussing Dragon Ball AF in middle and high school in the early 2000s and it's mindblowing to think the man who drew that gets to carry the torch to finish what Toriyama could not.

    • @86Fallowcp
      @86Fallowcp 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sadly he may stop working on DBS. Either by his own volition or the big problems Toei and Shueisha are having against each other, mostly ownership and missuse of parts of the franchise. Its such a complex topic that I even don't get it completely as of yet, but its one of the biggest reasons why DBS hasn't gotten new chapters besides his mentor's passing.

  • @F4LLEN.LEGEND
    @F4LLEN.LEGEND 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    15:43 That caught me off gaurd💀

  • @retrosoul-
    @retrosoul- 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey, just wanted to say I really appreciate this video! I'm an aspiring artist and it's incredible learning all of this stuff. Still seems like an impossible task to create a distinct character, then multiple different characters that can be instantly recognizable in their silhouette.

  • @YukiHeroYGO
    @YukiHeroYGO 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am so glad I am in my life on the graphic designer path now that I recently discovered Toriyama was a Graphic Designer for advertisement too.
    And trust.
    It fucking shows, and I am so proud.
    Godspeed, Master.

  • @BACONMAN566
    @BACONMAN566 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love all the different styles and versions but the raw anger and energy, the jagged lines and badass rock music of the 90s style of the OG frieza through cell sagas, looked so sick

  • @cvanims
    @cvanims 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    RIP Toriyama -- You made so many of us into artists without even knowing it.

  • @MrMaorn
    @MrMaorn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    DBZ was my biggest inspiration and influence in my art. As a kid I'd draw characters from memory and got pretty good at it. Now, at 31, imitating a Toriyama-esque style is almost second nature.

  • @hormoheb
    @hormoheb 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I LOVE these types of videos PLEASE make them more often

  • @jacobevertson5411
    @jacobevertson5411 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would LOVE for this video to become a series. Break down the art style evolution of mangaka for all of the biggest series. Kazuki Takahashi and Yugioh, Eiichiro Oda and One Piece, Masashi Kishimoto and Naruto

  • @ImaginationzKey
    @ImaginationzKey 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Toriyama's style baffled me when I finally started to read the manga as I had a vague grasp of drawing techniques by that point. His faces used to throw me off the most. More-so when I tried to draw any of the characters as they always looked a little uncanny. I could understand what he was doing in theory, but couldn't quite implement similar techniques in a way that read like his style into my own drawings. Even the times I traced his stuff to try and work on learning his style, my lines never looked right as something was off (line weight, the confidence of the lines, I missed something). It's such a deceptively simple style that to this day, many years after my first attempts at drawing it, I still can't get right. At the very least, I was able to learn things to incorporate in my own style from how he drew mouths, ears (of all things), dynamic/expressive eyes (with some of the directional rules he used), and hatched shadows on characters.

  • @WiiFan-1300
    @WiiFan-1300 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing job y’all! Thanks for explaining everything Mark! 🔥🔥🔥

  • @dittomario
    @dittomario 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:16 i feel sorta proud that i noticed this, as early in my art carrier i studied toriyamas artstyle, until the point (what i would say) it is indistinguishable form his. i never really stepped out of that until a year or so later.

  • @DragonRyuken777
    @DragonRyuken777 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I swear it can't be just me that has come to notice that Toyotaro style is starting to look more and more like a mixure of Toris old and new style and some of his own all together. The detailed, leaned but, also Toriyama-esque anatonomy that he seemed (at least to me) is slowly coming to fruition. Can't wait to see how he evolves from here, one of the few artists/mangaka that you can quite easily see the improvements of every couple chapters.

  • @blvckpapii4598
    @blvckpapii4598 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bro i miss toriyama. I feel like buu arc was his prime with the 3 shades and pointy bulky characters . I hope yuya takahashi stays in the cut cause i can really see his love for the franchise in every shot 🙏🏾❤️

  • @warrenbradford2597
    @warrenbradford2597 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This an interesting evolution of Toriyama-sensei's art-style. I need to see more of paneling, I can study it and use the paneling technique myself.

  • @JerryFlowersIII
    @JerryFlowersIII หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd love a breakdown like this for Bleach seeing how Tite Kubos art evolved so much, ending up in my favorite art style in all of Manga/Anime.

  • @Star_Art_Josh
    @Star_Art_Josh หลายเดือนก่อน

    7:15 DB is what brought me towards art. I only ever drew Dragon Ball characters, but now I have to unlearn the DB style in order to draw my own characters properly.

  • @Ferrari255GTO
    @Ferrari255GTO 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolute god tier video, super well detailed and borderline perfectly explained