US sues Apple over iPhone monopoly, explained

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  • @TheVerge
    @TheVerge  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +281

    How do you see this, third DOJ lawsuit against Apple, play out?

    • @stevenbaumann8692
      @stevenbaumann8692 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It'll fizzle out into nothing. Especially when Apple starts contributing to all the politicians campaign funds.

    • @Nattodayy
      @Nattodayy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      Cool. Sue them to make my iPhone better.

    • @STF_YVR
      @STF_YVR 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Useless civil servants trying to justify their existence … the consumers will not benefit from this

    • @anthonytovar
      @anthonytovar 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      3rd time is a charm

    • @rhemy1
      @rhemy1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s going to be an incredible waste of time and resources. With all the problems in technology this is what the doj decides to do.

  • @sentientbeing05
    @sentientbeing05 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3265

    Selling pro laptops with 8gb of base memory and charging $200 for memory upgrade is an absolute theft.

    • @Jaraizer
      @Jaraizer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      Preach!

    • @KlutchAndJerel
      @KlutchAndJerel 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

      The upgrade pricing is absolutely ridiculous, but 8gb of RAM is very much usable, even on a “pro” machine

    • @kruxdt6307
      @kruxdt6307 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +192

      ​@@KlutchAndJerelNuh uh

    • @AkshaySingh-k3s
      @AkshaySingh-k3s 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ... iPhone back cover change, restricted repairing, offset people for memory upgrade .....is all essential/intrinsic part of the extremely crucial process of tightly knitted eco chamber which Apple offers to its customers for unparalleled SOFTWARE/HARDWARE SECURITY , TOP NOTCH CONSTRUCTION 👈
      No other Tech Mammoth has ever been able to afford in this planet . THAT'S WHY ITS APPLE.🧡

    • @nottsoinnocent
      @nottsoinnocent 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Coming straight from today's MKBHD video huh

  • @BizzleByron
    @BizzleByron 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1845

    The memory upgrade price gouging needs addressing more than anything, it’s borderline criminal.

    • @vz3_
      @vz3_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      I just paid $800 in additional cost for a MacBook Air with 24gb of RAM and 1tb of storage. It’s brutal, and needs to change.

    • @kevinba7981
      @kevinba7981 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      @vz3_ The air doesn’t have fans, why would you upgrade the ram if the air wasn’t designed to do heavy task and overloaded apps. That’s what the pro is for.

    • @kevinba7981
      @kevinba7981 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vz3_.

    • @cjfulbright
      @cjfulbright 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      IT is criminal, if you are held captive , and can't use any third party apps, once you own your phone.

    • @mariozamora9684
      @mariozamora9684 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Memory and Storage upgrade.

  • @DamonMedekMusic
    @DamonMedekMusic 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1659

    Apple about to drop a $500 million dollar donation to a special someone.

    • @t0n0k0
      @t0n0k0 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      💯

    • @gillianorley
      @gillianorley 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Well, we know Hunter is a Mac user. Or is that “Russian disinformation”?

    • @jacqdanieles
      @jacqdanieles 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@gillianorley Hunter Derangement Syndrome

    • @Iamtheman325
      @Iamtheman325 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yea lobbying is just leagal bribery after mark zuckerberg was caught selling data and got slapped vwith a 750million dollars what are the odds he's still selling our data?

    • @tienphan637
      @tienphan637 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wait, is it some kind of bribery??

  • @brightziee
    @brightziee 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +921

    WE USED TO PRAY FOR TIMES LIKE THIS 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

    • @ljames5561
      @ljames5561 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Thank god, I love apple products but 200$ or more for a memory upgrade is robbery

    • @Furiousbanner
      @Furiousbanner 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      used to pray? we still praying my guy, never let up

    • @CdeMaDaejsAripi
      @CdeMaDaejsAripi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      😑
      🙏🏾
      👖

    • @MichaelGGarry
      @MichaelGGarry 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@ljames5561 You people know that Apple aren't just changing a ram stick, right? Its not the same as other laptops which is one big reason it costs so much, but also one reason why the performance is so good....

    • @Jonathan.Gearhart
      @Jonathan.Gearhart 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I’m watching this on an iPhone

  • @Jaxv3r
    @Jaxv3r 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1342

    after EU fighting Apple with Consumer, finally the US hops in

    • @bruxi78230
      @bruxi78230 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      EU hasn't won any case yet. They make a lot noise so the misinformed think something is going on.

    • @asianstud7
      @asianstud7 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +122

      The EU has always been the leader in pro consumer protection. The US has a lot to learn.

    • @faheemabbas3965
      @faheemabbas3965 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      @@asianstud7US is a business. Why would they want to step in?

    • @miles5600
      @miles5600 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@faheemabbas3965 cause these changes won't really damage anyone's wallet lol

    • @KamaAnthem
      @KamaAnthem 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I detect a little communism..

  • @vijaybalaji9061
    @vijaybalaji9061 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +906

    Apple is the King of software restrictions.

    • @gljames24
      @gljames24 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      Not just software; hardware too!

    • @hirnfaser7245
      @hirnfaser7245 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      its always been. its a decision, not just a business strategy. you can only achieve this kind of quality by having strict control over everything that happens.
      - whether thats true or not, its a kind of design philosophy that a lot of designers at least somewhat agree to.

    • @gillianorley
      @gillianorley 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Then buy something else.

    • @borisbalkan707
      @borisbalkan707 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      So buy a Samsung

    • @joeyboli
      @joeyboli 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@borisbalkan707 so shut up and enjoy better innovation by other developers which isnt provided by 'Apple'

  • @localnyraccoon
    @localnyraccoon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +212

    $200 memory upgrades is absurd.

    • @AnakinSkywalker_1858
      @AnakinSkywalker_1858 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      As absurd as the may be I don’t remember Apple forcing anyone to buy their products u have a choice…
      So if u can’t afford it then stick to something that u can afford

    • @nakiangoderich3014
      @nakiangoderich3014 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AnakinSkywalker_1858
      Let’s see… need a Mac or MacBook to do certain things, develop iOS apps, etc etc. So actually, Apple does indeed force used to purchase their insanely expensive products because of a simple thing: Abusive Ecosystem where they milk the developers and customers. Even trapping you in the Apple ecosystem.

    • @xcelpast
      @xcelpast 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      then don't pay for it lol. nobody is forcing you to buy a macbook. mercedes charging $20k for a bigger engine with leather seats is absurd too 🤡

    • @MichaelGGarry
      @MichaelGGarry 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They aren't just swapping RAM sticks, you know this right?

    • @mashirokobato5509
      @mashirokobato5509 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@AnakinSkywalker_1858lolz 8gb ram is ultra scam btw.. non upgradable hardware.... Planned obsolescence...

  • @kilimanjaro1893
    @kilimanjaro1893 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +346

    Ticketmaster too please, need to be open that case again

    • @CoryPchajek
      @CoryPchajek 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      Ticketmaster is far worse than Apple.

    • @ralphcorneliuscastro
      @ralphcorneliuscastro 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      100% YESSSS!!!!!

    • @abinodattil6422
      @abinodattil6422 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Ticketmaster is evil

    • @ljacobs357
      @ljacobs357 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Both personify American greed.

    • @RareFXChrisC
      @RareFXChrisC 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes! Also Google.

  • @sadjesse
    @sadjesse 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +668

    I’m an Apple user, but I Love how all governments around the world are FINALLY attacking the monopoly! After Apple, take on Google with their Chrome browser and other stuff.

    • @niZmosis
      @niZmosis 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      What is funny about Chrome is that it is built on WebKit which is one of the only projects Apple open sourced.

    • @vankerosene8164
      @vankerosene8164 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@niZmosisWebkit was forked from KHTML !

    • @Thtuy
      @Thtuy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      I am amazed on how little and how much people know to think someone said chrome is a monopoly is crazy 😂😂,it's the Google service but I get where yr coming from

    • @caydenthompson126
      @caydenthompson126 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      What do you mean go after Google? You can use Chrome on anything

    • @MasterFloop
      @MasterFloop 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I am in the exact same boat! Dismantle the monopoly. Consumers should be allowed to use whatever tech they want and have it work well with whatever other tech they want.

  • @tren-y2m
    @tren-y2m 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +339

    The sideloading ban is such a copout. Imagine owning a computer and not being allowed to download stuff from the internet, unless it's on the inbuilt app store on the laptop. Apple does this to force developers into the 30% revenue split on the app store

    • @westcoastavenger
      @westcoastavenger 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      And without Apple, those companies do not get access to 1.2B users. You should have to pay to access their user base

    • @exponentialdongexpansion5223
      @exponentialdongexpansion5223 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

      ​@@westcoastavengerSide loading is a part of owning your phone. Being able to install the apps you want from who you want. Are you saying that every windows app should be from the Microsoft store? That every Mac app should be from the app store? That I shouldn't be able to download an older version of an app or an app that's banned from the app store? That small developers making apps for their community should be forced to pay apple to make their apps available? Your argument is inherently anti-consumer and anti-competition; customers and developers should be able to choose how to get and sell their apps.

    • @rassular
      @rassular 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@exponentialdongexpansion5223 People want their corporatocracy, and they'll keep fighting for it until they get what they want

    • @me-myself-i787
      @me-myself-i787 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@exponentialdongexpansion5223You own the phone, not the operating system. You could uninstall iOS and install Android on your iPhone and then you could use whatever apps you like. But if you want to use iOS, you have to accept their conditions.

    • @J-Box9000
      @J-Box9000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      What do you mean? You can “side load” all day on macOS and not have to touch the Apple App Store. A lot of great apps by indie developers can’t be found in the App Store.
      If you mean to say iOS and iPadOS, I hear you, but by prohibiting side loading you shrink the attack surface area tremendously. Go jailbreak your iPhone if you must side load, but why go through the trouble when it’s so easy to side load and root on Android?? There are tons of ROMS to choose from. Android is well known for its customizable features.
      A lot of people bank on their smartphone nowadays so security should be the top priority for these devices.

  • @rws91942
    @rws91942 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +208

    The irony of this lawsuit ( that should have happened a long time ago.) is just how much Apple benefited from that Microsoft lawsuit.

    • @maxhill9254
      @maxhill9254 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      How did apple benefit exactly? Please elaborate.

    • @ceasetheday87
      @ceasetheday87 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@maxhill9254 The original post quotes this video almost verbatim. Start from 1:04.

    • @rohith9439
      @rohith9439 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      microsoft especially led by bill gates invested 200 million in Apple to appear in good books after they got sued by US government. Apple need that cash real bad at that time@@maxhill9254

    • @onweze1781
      @onweze1781 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@maxhill9254 made a lot of people switch to Mac in a time where most people used windows

    • @chlehqls
      @chlehqls 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@maxhill9254MS threw Apple a lifeline and support since MS was getting antitrust violations shoveled to them at the time. How the turn tables

  • @HspncAt7heDisco
    @HspncAt7heDisco 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +173

    The turnaround time on this video is super impressive. Great job Alex and team!

    • @NiceEyeballs
      @NiceEyeballs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have two brain cells. What's turnaround time of a video? Like how fast they got the news and made a video of it?

    • @Loggerr
      @Loggerr 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@NiceEyeballsExactly

  • @WilliamSmith-hf8um
    @WilliamSmith-hf8um 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +127

    Apple doesn't allow the real Chrome or Firefox on the iPhone/iPad, which is crazy. Chrome uses the Chromium engine and Firefox uses the Gecko engine, but Apple won't allow them

    • @AnakinSkywalker_1858
      @AnakinSkywalker_1858 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Yh Apple forces them to use WebKit because it’s their proprietary system and it works incredibly well with iOS

    • @WilliamSmith-hf8um
      @WilliamSmith-hf8um 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      No, Apple does not allow Chromium or Gecko on iOS or iPadOS. Firefox for iOS is based on Webkit, which is why it's so terrible

    • @esotericjahanism5251
      @esotericjahanism5251 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WilliamSmith-hf8um Ironically enough Chrome was first built using webkit

    • @sukhmandersingh4306
      @sukhmandersingh4306 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@AnakinSkywalker_1858 No it's because they want a browser monopoly on their devices.

    • @ArunWadhwa
      @ArunWadhwa 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Tbh, I’m happy with Chromium being kept out of iOS, but not having Gecko is a missed opportunity.

  • @GaTeR2006
    @GaTeR2006 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +398

    Sue Comcast too

    • @Jaraizer
      @Jaraizer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      They can all get some of this court action

    • @tiromandal6399
      @tiromandal6399 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Apple is the far bigger evil.

    • @queasycarboy508
      @queasycarboy508 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Jaraizer i'm sorry but i'm unaware of those 2 companies. Could you tell me what they did?

    • @kevinba7981
      @kevinba7981 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@queasycarboy508their website won’t let customers end their subscription

    • @najjee9467
      @najjee9467 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Please sue them, they’ve had a monopoly on home internet for too long. Other companies always saying, we’re not available in your area. At my old address the options were Xfinity or DSL from AT&T

  • @Forge17
    @Forge17 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +178

    The problem with Apple’s ecosystem isn’t that it’s seamless and vertically integrated, it’s that it’s a captive ecosystem. A massive one that now branches across most facets of people’s tech and monopolizes their options over time.

    • @MichaelGGarry
      @MichaelGGarry 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      You mean similar to Samsung, Google and Huawei?

    • @ratrodgrady
      @ratrodgrady 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​@@MichaelGGarry In what way do those companies discourage you from using other products?

    • @oevers
      @oevers 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      @@MichaelGGarryAs Samsung user, this is not quite true. They all have their own ecosystem, but if you buy a product from another company (like a smartwatch), most features also work with your samsung phone. They don’t do as much to prevent you from buying other products.

    • @wlonsdale1
      @wlonsdale1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@MichaelGGarrynot exactly. With the others you can side load or download apps from other sources. Android works with other android.

    • @PWingert1966
      @PWingert1966 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The answer is simple Require that Apple allow Android, Linux or any OS to be installed on iPhones with full access to all processor features. Require that they make iOS open source and available to all and support RCS fully.

  • @kneelesh48
    @kneelesh48 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +129

    Gonna get a bucket load of popcorn for this

    • @ayushmauryars
      @ayushmauryars 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Share with me too 😢

    • @frenchiesaparis5741
      @frenchiesaparis5741 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LOL 🍿🍿🍿

    • @blue_ig1
      @blue_ig1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why? For a government stopping a company for being popular? I don’t agree with apple all the way, but tearing a company apart cause they sell too much tech is brain dead

  • @powerhouse884
    @powerhouse884 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +205

    I am gonna be very honest here….
    The CLOUD GAMING issue is super BS from Apple. Xbox Gamepass needs to use the Browser to work on iOS cuz Apple has some idiotic rules over Cloud gaming.
    So I understand the MANY complaints against Apple. Some may be justified but others are straight up BS from Apple. I have an iPhone and iPad and they really need to low the gear on their strict rules.
    Like LITERALLY if the user wants to take the risk it should 100% be on the user’s decision. Not theirs.

    • @rhemy1
      @rhemy1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Why do you have an iPhone if you hate it so much?

    • @powerhouse884
      @powerhouse884 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      @@rhemy1 I don’t hate the iPhone. The iPhone doesn’t need change. The iOS regulations do.
      They do NOT do this for macOS so makes no sense to enforce it on iOS.

    • @Altik.
      @Altik. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@powerhouse884macOS is something different :))

    • @SikSlayer
      @SikSlayer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@powerhouse884 typical Apple fan bs response to what you said too. Asking why you hate anything... you made you point very clear.

    • @asianstud7
      @asianstud7 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Whats Apples justification for restricting the Cloud gaming to the browser?

  • @e-scott8326
    @e-scott8326 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +174

    It's about time. What took the DOJ so long?

    • @kookoo6128
      @kookoo6128 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      preperation on apple's part, and any other party who got on board with, who ever needed to be gotten on board with.

    • @ashbowers8028
      @ashbowers8028 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They forgot to pay a bribe... er.. their lobbyists forgot to pay the right politicians.

    • @GarrEFeLix
      @GarrEFeLix 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Someone in the DOJ is looking for a pay out to put this away

    • @codecode1948
      @codecode1948 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Biden needs funds to defeat Trump

  • @HelloMen001
    @HelloMen001 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    So, will they finally remove the need of a mac to develop apps for ios?

    • @dess3597
      @dess3597 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Nope! 🤣

    • @the_mariocrafter
      @the_mariocrafter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Buy a Mac, but you might not need to pay 25 dollars a year to distribute it

  • @Dave-cg9li
    @Dave-cg9li 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +116

    This isn't about any single thing like green/blue bubbles. This is about the pattetn of hundreds anti-competitive tactics that apple uses. Hopefully this finally gets Apple to make some bigger changes and start playing more fair.

    • @corvacopia
      @corvacopia 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      And the green/blue bubbles themselves aren’t that big a deal, the bigger problem is the reduction of features and quality for messaging with non-iPhones

    • @IceBlueLugia
      @IceBlueLugia 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      What could be interesting is if Apple starts being “forced” to become less restrictive even if technically they don’t lose the lawsuit. Google pays Mozilla every year to develop Firefox to show regulators that a competitor to Chromium exists. Because there were so many anti-trust concerns. If Apple gets put in a similar situation, we might see sideloading happen, or hell maybe even iMessage/FaceTime come to Android

    • @aHungiePanda
      @aHungiePanda 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How are they not playing fair? You want them to open up their ecosystem? If so why? The only people that hate Apple are poor people and android users

    • @MichaelGGarry
      @MichaelGGarry 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@corvacopia There are loads of quality messaging apps on an iPhone already. The rest of the world thinks the American addiction to ancient SMS is laughable,

    • @wlonsdale1
      @wlonsdale1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@MichaelGGarrybut the rest of the world is addicted to being spies on with those same apps

  • @dis6900
    @dis6900 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +253

    If android gets iMessage or compatibility with RCS, I'm dumping my 14 Pro for a Pixel 8 Pro.

    • @sentientbeing05
      @sentientbeing05 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

      RCS is coming to iMessage

    • @Anderson-hi9qw
      @Anderson-hi9qw 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      Lets see how much they inhibit rcs though

    • @jaughnekow
      @jaughnekow 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Nobody cares.
      Messaging is messaging

    • @tarunnekkanti7439
      @tarunnekkanti7439 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      Whatsapp bro!

    • @NorthlanderMN
      @NorthlanderMN 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      Same here. Can’t wait to dump my iPhone. It’s definitely a cult.

  • @thisismetoday
    @thisismetoday 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Why now? This lawsuit is like ten years late!!

    • @thisismetoday
      @thisismetoday 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@P.90.603 not for the millions impacted in those ten years

  • @bizmonkey007
    @bizmonkey007 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Apple’s known for years that iMessage locks users in and that texting with Android users is an awful, and sometimes, broken experience. If this forces them to fully embrace RCS then that would at least be a small step forward.

    • @robo9439
      @robo9439 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Apple has already announced RCS support coming this year. 😊

  • @shantooobeg
    @shantooobeg 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    8gb ram 200$
    256gb storage 200$
    That's apple inovation

  • @M4NA5
    @M4NA5 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    All monopolies need to be broken down - Apple, Amazon, Google, and Facebook.

  • @languist
    @languist 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    This is the last thing I expected, for the US government to sue one of its country’s companies… normally the EU sues Apple, but not the US

    • @mboiko
      @mboiko 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Microsoft thought the same thing...they were wrong.

    • @pranavmv6333
      @pranavmv6333 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If US not sue Microsoft back then. Apple will be bankrupted

  • @HoustonKhanyile
    @HoustonKhanyile 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +87

    This case just gave the W to Epic games who lost their cases. They lost the battle but they won the war.

    • @bruxi78230
      @bruxi78230 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      In the Epic case the judge indicated that Apple was not a monopoly. No way the DOJ wins this new case, they're just shaking down Apple.

    • @another_turtle
      @another_turtle 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bruxi78230 Yeah, just because Iphone are popular and apple doesn't allow 3rd party apps on their phone doesn't mean its a monopoly. DOJ rather go after this than airlines that cause actual danger to people.

    • @HoustonKhanyile
      @HoustonKhanyile 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't think they want too. Just like you said they want to shake down Apple until they cave. which is what Epic games wanted, somebody with the power to reel Apple in. It's a master strategy I tell you@@bruxi78230 .

    • @KonohasYeIlowFlash
      @KonohasYeIlowFlash 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bruxi78230The DOJ makes some very good points. It’ll still be interesting to see how Apple counters their arguments. I imagine some sort of change to iOS/iPhones will result from this litigation, but this saga will play out of the next several years-there won’t be any swift resolution.

    • @westcoastavenger
      @westcoastavenger 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bruxi78230b-b-b-bingo! Cant be a monopoly if you only have a 30% marketshare.

  • @MasterKey_44
    @MasterKey_44 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I like Apple products, but I have seen that they are really just trying for you to stay at Apple. “No don’t pay for prime video, instead pay for Apple TV+” “you don’t need google photos, just iCloud” this is less choice.

  • @KaseemBooker
    @KaseemBooker 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    Sue the Banks and Oil Companies

    • @Steve-nf1tg
      @Steve-nf1tg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Sue everybody!!

    • @NorthlanderMN
      @NorthlanderMN 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I’m for breaking up all the big banks.

    • @joelimbergamo639
      @joelimbergamo639 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oil companies are already whats left after they glt sued. Do you remember standard oil?

    • @KaseemBooker
      @KaseemBooker 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@O._.O._.O lol 😂

    • @lalnunpuiafanai9479
      @lalnunpuiafanai9479 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@O._.O._.O90% of americans didnt prefer these to other fast food chains tho, while 90% of americans use iphones

  • @ijimkoz
    @ijimkoz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    If this allows Firefox and other browsers to have their true rendering engines and add-on support like UBO in the USA, then I am all for this.

  • @GoldenAgeofCOD
    @GoldenAgeofCOD 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm 100 percent in favor of breaking up apple

  • @kylorokx1552
    @kylorokx1552 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Ram and storage upgrade is a daylight robbery

  • @schoonerthedog
    @schoonerthedog 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Not defending Apple, but the US suing Apple for a monopoly is a terrible joke since our grid, medicine, and cable are through one supplier in over 90% of the country. But better go after the company you don’t NEED to buy a cell phone or laptop with. I just don’t see how it’s a monopoly when it’s a choice to purchase it and the market has other options. By this regard Samsung is a bigger monopoly since they make refrigerators, washers, cell phones, laptops, TVs, etc…

    • @laurencefraser
      @laurencefraser 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There is no law against being a monopoly. There are plenty of laws regarding what you are and are not allowed to do in order to reach and maintain that status, and the closer you are to it the closer the regulators will be looking at you for potential screwups, but being a monopoly is not, itself, a problem.
      Of course, it's a rare corporation that, having found itself with a monopoly, Won't promptly start abusing the hell out of it without heavy government regulation and oversite (which the US government Hates having to do), so...

    • @pranavmv6333
      @pranavmv6333 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Apple only succed because Microsoft sued by US over monopoly. Check history

    • @KobinaGordon
      @KobinaGordon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Samsung’s systems are not as integrated as apple. Their home appliances do not relate to each other

    • @DaSIL3NC3R
      @DaSIL3NC3R 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KobinaGordonthat’s why it’s a mess.

  • @xpenzfan
    @xpenzfan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Kind of a weird feeling I got from the omittance of "It would also set a dangerous precedent, empowering government to take a heavy hand in designing people's technology." I 100% agree with the idea that Apple has, in fact, created a monopoly of sorts in various ways, many of which are provided in this very video. However, it does call to question just how much power the government should have over this sort of thing. Is this truly the government protecting the people from Apple's "digital tax", or is it just the government wanting all of the "taxation" to itself? With how much the government has dropped the ball on technological issues in the past (see the entirety of the right to repair movement, it's a wonderful thing yet the government is big stupid), I hardly think the government is doing this simply to protect its people.
    When it comes to the government, there's always a price.

    • @another_turtle
      @another_turtle 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The definition of a monopoly is "the exclusive possession or control of the supply of or trade in a commodity or service.", you are not forced to buy an iPhone or apple watch this is all just a waste of tax dollars and to avoid going after real problems like the airline industry.

    • @monkymind4316
      @monkymind4316 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes I think they are afraid of the potential power Apple could have over people. They don't like anything to threaten their all important power.

    • @gittyupalice96
      @gittyupalice96 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@monkymind4316 good lord, the "United States of Apple" Imagine how the Apple DMV's would work. Please update your car, or we'll disable the device!

  • @D0MiNATE49ER
    @D0MiNATE49ER 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Former Apple user here watching this on my Samsung Fold 5 😊

  • @bibinshree3958
    @bibinshree3958 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Are we seeing sunshine on the horizon?

    • @Al_i8
      @Al_i8 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      No, they'll just settle with the government and give them a handsome payout. Consumers will get nothing good out of this.

    • @taylorcontreras5656
      @taylorcontreras5656 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Al_i8That’s all they want

  • @ud1235
    @ud1235 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Call it a 'Anti-competitive' or 'innovation inspired' - love the spirit behind the motion. Every monopoly needs to be assessed and reviewed under each industry verticals every 3-5 years for potential collusion.

  • @mkhud50n
    @mkhud50n 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    There needs to be more choices than just iPhones and Androids. A duopoly isn’t much better than a monopoly. It’s ALL duopolies.

    • @PennyHerbst
      @PennyHerbst 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      How do you expect app development to work on more platforms? We have seen exactly that back when there was Windows Phone. It sucked, mainly because most apps will be available only on Android and iOS

    • @litojonny
      @litojonny 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      you know how hard that'll be?

    • @joemorales643
      @joemorales643 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      There used to be a third great option but y’all didn’t like it: Windows Phone

    • @Belaziraf
      @Belaziraf 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@PennyHerbst You forgot Blackberry. And now Harmony OS from Huawey.
      For Freelancer, developing for one platform consume enough time. For companies, it means twice (not exactly, but you get the idea) the cost. And it obviously go up, the more platform they have to manage.
      Then the main point remain ROI. More platform doesn't mean tons of users on them.
      MS store is still far behind. And I don't think Windows phone will be seen again before the store offer more apps.
      They better hurry, though as Samsung is stepping on the seamless ecosystem, which had always been Apple's best selling point.
      If MS can't get onboard on time, they can forget about trying a Windows Mobile OS again.

    • @mkhud50n
      @mkhud50n 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@PennyHerbst start over from scratch. Make apps that run on any platform. Maybe apps aren’t even needed anymore. Kind of hard to do when the market is already captured which is what they should have been preventing before it got this far. It’s like Coke or Pepsi at this point: either way Big Soda wins. It’s the illusion of choice with only two choices.

  • @nonnnth
    @nonnnth 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    As iOS dev, I hate app store fees, but they do the same thing when you want to sell stuff at walmart or any big chain store. Saying people have no choice but to pay them is wrong. You can choose to only distribute on other stores, like the Play Store. It’s not different from how some products can only be found at one store and not the other even though the store doesn’t make them. Some customers only shop at, let’s say Target, and you don’t have your goods on their shelves, that’s your choice, you won’t be able to access those people unless you pay them. Same thing happens here.
    What they’re saying is they want you to let other people set up their shop to sell the same stuff as you do in your sales area. If it ever happens, it should be your choice, not by law.

    • @thor9562
      @thor9562 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is accurate

    • @Jonteponte71
      @Jonteponte71 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      People forgot a long time ago that if you wanted to distribute software before the appstore it was much more expensive per app (like ten times or more. And everyone had their own appstore and payment method) and when you wanted to distribute through physical stores you got to keep maybe 25% of the final sales price. If that.
      20 years later, people scream bloody murder when they *only* get to keep SEVENTY PERCENT of the sales price. It could be cheaper, but it is not anywhere close to unreasonable. If it was, Google would only charge 5% and and no one would develop for iOS.

    • @MichaelGGarry
      @MichaelGGarry 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Jonteponte71 You'd be lucky to even get the 25%, especially if you were working with a publisher!

    • @voodoodisco
      @voodoodisco 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @nonnnth 100%

    • @Matti861
      @Matti861 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When I sell my goods at a big box store I'm selling the product wholesale to the store who will then markup for gross profit. That's not the same thing

  • @MegaLokopo
    @MegaLokopo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    They could easily get rid of the restrictions without losing the benefits of offering their users vertical integration.

  • @rafaelclaycon
    @rafaelclaycon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I like this short format for breaking stories! Keep them coming!

  • @JDoG867
    @JDoG867 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Doesn’t bother me to pay an Apple tax, I know what I’m paying for and I like it. The very reason I don’t buy a low budget android phone or even a high budget Android phone for that matter. I appreciate the ecosystem and you can’t convince me otherwise. 🍎 everything.

  • @mpatton997
    @mpatton997 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I can’t seem to get Apple Wallet to work on my Galaxy S24.

    • @voodoodisco
      @voodoodisco 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      LOL LOL

    • @M16-bf4ku
      @M16-bf4ku 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      sue apple for that

  • @rays1729
    @rays1729 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Steve Jobs must be very proud.

    • @antoniobabb1938
      @antoniobabb1938 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very

    • @alphabeta8284
      @alphabeta8284 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      He’s dead

    • @jamiekuchma
      @jamiekuchma 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dicks in turtle necks..... Apple

    • @pranavmv6333
      @pranavmv6333 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why because apple rise upto his greedy monopolic expectation. And the 80% world use Android than his iphone

  • @Arrowmania
    @Arrowmania 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    It isn't a monopoly, the consumer is not locked in - even in the video it says Android is more compatible with more options (plays more video formats, has multiple wallets to choose from, etc). The Apple iPhones even cost more then the alternative Android flagship models (equivalent phones, some Androids like the Fold are of course more expensive for more tech); So there is no undercutting going on as the price is generally more for the iPhone than the equivalent Android. Seems like suing is a waste of time. People who always buy iPhone over an Android model mostly do it as that's what they like and are used to. Otherwise they can vote with their wallets and buy an Android, which means again, not a monopoly.

    • @Jsarson1976
      @Jsarson1976 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Totally agree with you 👍

  • @nitramluap
    @nitramluap 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    As a developer, I'm quite happy with the cut that Apple takes (which... is actually 15% for most of us) as they provide a TON of developer tools and behind the scenes work which makes my life way easier, especially with dealing with all sorts of different tax implications when selling worldwide. The DOJ is a bunch of old fuddy duddys that don't actually understand what they're talking about.

    • @mboiko
      @mboiko 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      "The DOJ is a bunch of old fuddy duddys..."
      It would be strange...if an Apple Developer didn't say that.

  • @Nimrawid
    @Nimrawid 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Finally, took them long enough. Compare Apple to Microsoft monopoly litigation... Mindblowing no one did much about it.

  • @Mr-Love-Explain
    @Mr-Love-Explain 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If you don’t like apple or iPhones, why don’t just go for android? Why suing apple up and down?

    • @AnakinSkywalker_1858
      @AnakinSkywalker_1858 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because they’re $tupid and looking to make a quick buck thats all

  • @nickthaskater
    @nickthaskater 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    How does one create a monopoly with a product and service they developed and maintain in a market where there are clear alternatives (e.g., Android)?

    • @jeeyuii
      @jeeyuii 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      they make the rcs malfunction on purpose to apple watch "apple ecosystem"

    • @the_mariocrafter
      @the_mariocrafter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      and iOS app devs have to pay 25 dollars a year and 30% tax

    • @nickthaskater
      @nickthaskater 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@the_mariocrafter so? Nobody is forcing them to be in the Apple app store. They could publish to Android, Microsoft, Samsung, or just release an exe or apk file, or even a dmg if you're talking Mac.

    • @Gabri3lRocha
      @Gabri3lRocha 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@the_mariocraftersame thing with google play store buddy 😂

    • @the_mariocrafter
      @the_mariocrafter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@nickthaskater If you would like to create a program on a phone that targets the youth, you can only publish on Android via an apk file, or desktop, unless you pay 25 dollars a year for iOS distribution.

  • @maxalot113
    @maxalot113 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Remember when early iphones would turn off when battery charge got down to 30%? That was a software update planned attrition, was not battery issue.

    • @MichaelGGarry
      @MichaelGGarry 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No. When did that happen?

    • @vernearase3044
      @vernearase3044 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You're getting it all wrong - Apple limited power draw when the battery degraded to _keep the phone from crashing._
      Other phone OEMs just didn't care if your phone crashed - a crashing phone would get you to buy a new one and the only profit point in the Android ecosystem is at the original purchase of the phone.
      In Apple's market, keeping a phone running reliably is the most important factor since Apple makes money from running iPhones in the form of app sales and service revenues.

  • @stefanropotean
    @stefanropotean 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Hmm… I don’t know where I stand regarding this ‘monopoly’ argument. Sure, freedom is good. But if you’re not happy with how Apple operates, maybe… I don’t know, don’t buy an iPhone in the first place? It’s like signing a 12 month tenancy agreement and then 2 months in complaining about the fact that you have to pay for the 12 months. Or moving into your new rental having signed the contract telling you you weren’t allowed pets, and then complaining about the fact that you’re not allowed pets a few days after. As long as you buy into Apple’s products willingly, I don’t see why you’d be complaining. If you’re unhappy, go somewhere else.

    • @warren488
      @warren488 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You do realise that it's not apple users that are suing them right?

    • @dabric
      @dabric 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      non-apple users are affected as well though. like how iphone android texting isn't great, and how developers have to fit in with apple simply because a large number of people own an iphone.

    • @makokainvestmentgroup9260
      @makokainvestmentgroup9260 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I honestly don’t get the lawsuit cause eventually no one is being forced to buy or even stay with Apple

    • @lesleyhaan116
      @lesleyhaan116 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dabric Android texting isn't great then its up to Google to make a good Messaging platform on Android its not Apples fault that Google failed to make a simple good messaging App

    • @dabric
      @dabric 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lesleyhaan116 i'm referring to texting across android and iphones. iphones mixed sms with imessage, it's cumbersome to get around it, and there isn't anything androids can do to try to get in on imessage. i dont think google's ability to make a messaging app applies here, and i would argue it would apply even less on android as you can set a default app for texting there.

  • @yemanator
    @yemanator 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is the most absurd thing I have ever seen. Umm, they only have 25% market share or so, and you can do cloud streaming - I do it all the time. Does google let you use apple wallet on android? No. Ridiculous

  • @pathofancient
    @pathofancient 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I would have to agree with the government. iPhone 13 mini was the last iPhone I bought, or ever will buy again.

  • @rochester212
    @rochester212 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Apple computers:
    -are expensive
    -can't install what you want on them.
    -can't repair them.
    -can't upgrade them.
    How stupid one has to be to buy one?

  • @shansadventures1
    @shansadventures1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    iPhone users think all android phones have crappy video when it's apple that is lowering the quality of videos when it detects it's sent from an android. Apple is also making it a security risk switching to SMS and MMS

    • @AnakinSkywalker_1858
      @AnakinSkywalker_1858 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s not apples fault dummy
      It’s your cellular network provider that uses MMS to deliver those videos when you are sending from a goddam android because androids don’t have iMessage 😡😡
      Pls think before talking

    • @AnakinSkywalker_1858
      @AnakinSkywalker_1858 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      If you want iMessage get an iPhone 😡

    • @shansadventures1
      @shansadventures1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@AnakinSkywalker_1858 I don't want iMessage. That's not even the point. Wow

    • @phoenixlaw5225
      @phoenixlaw5225 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      source?

    • @MichaelGGarry
      @MichaelGGarry 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Stop using ancient tech like SMS and MMS!

  • @jbi1839
    @jbi1839 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That 30% finally gets the karma.

  • @gregoriyvylegzhanin1833
    @gregoriyvylegzhanin1833 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I don’t understand If people so upset with Apple why not use something else. Asus makes great windows laptops, Google and Samsung uses good phones and smart watches. There is bunch of choices outside Apple ecosystem.

    • @the_mariocrafter
      @the_mariocrafter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Because there is no way to replace the iOS on an iPhone with anything else. Your stuck with iOS and cannot install something else.

    • @the_mariocrafter
      @the_mariocrafter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But you can install Linux on an M1 MacBook

    • @gregoriyvylegzhanin1833
      @gregoriyvylegzhanin1833 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@the_mariocrafter buy an android

    • @the_mariocrafter
      @the_mariocrafter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gregoriyvylegzhanin1833 people already have their iPhone hardware.

    • @M16-bf4ku
      @M16-bf4ku 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gregoriyvylegzhanin1833 you will be bullied if you do so

  • @chase7972
    @chase7972 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I stand with Apple with this tbh. They have the right to do what they're doing. If they want to create a closed system, then so be it.

  • @PatrikRasch
    @PatrikRasch 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's insane it even got halfway as far as this in the first place

  • @BGLocet
    @BGLocet 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    why did you read everything from the Apple comment except the line "It would also set a dangerous precedent, empowering the government to take a heavy hand in designing people's technology"? .. why not say the whole thing?

  • @MikeEdwardsphotography
    @MikeEdwardsphotography 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Why should you have to pay less fees to use a platform that's generating you millions? WIthout the platform and it's users, how else would you make a sale? Develope your own platform and charge what you want. Just saying.

  • @laolu2007
    @laolu2007 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Meta needs to be sued too

  • @Vexcenot
    @Vexcenot 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So what took them so long?

  • @cszulu2000
    @cszulu2000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That is stupid. If you are successful, you get sued. Nobody forces anyone to buy an iPhone. I am not even an iPhone fan.

  • @3811eric
    @3811eric 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    0:59 Buy your mom an iPhone. And he thinks it's funny? This is why Apple is going to be destroyed, sooner or later; I guarantee.

  • @ChanningChea
    @ChanningChea 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Google: owns 70% market share
    DOJ: Apple’s a monopoly!
    Google: 👀

    • @the_mariocrafter
      @the_mariocrafter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Did you hear about the play store lawsuit, and how open Android is?

    • @ChanningChea
      @ChanningChea 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@the_mariocrafter
      You mean the one where they pretended to be open and actually closed themselves off while having 70% market share, thus resulting of them losing?
      Yes lol

    • @rigierish3807
      @rigierish3807 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      There is hardly any "monopoly" in an open platform: Android is open source so any company that wants to go their way to make their own version of Android can, without having to redo everything (they just can't take the Android name). So even if Android was 99.9 % of the market share, that would still not be a monopoly. The same way, Linux companies never got sued for monopoly reason because they owned +95 % of the server market share.
      iOS though is closed source and generally a very closed ecosystem, anti competitive and anti consumer, so yeah, that's a much bigger problem than any other market share in the world.

    • @the_mariocrafter
      @the_mariocrafter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rigierish3807 also a Google Play antitrust lawsuit already happened

    • @vernearase3044
      @vernearase3044 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rigierish3807 Actually, the good stuff in Android is _not_ open source.

  • @chrisw443
    @chrisw443 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Sue em over the price of mac upgrades being 10 times more than standard parts.

    • @MichaelGGarry
      @MichaelGGarry 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Because they are not standard parts and they are not "10 times" more expensive. You think Apple are just swapping RAM sticks?

    • @AnakinSkywalker_1858
      @AnakinSkywalker_1858 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Then get a windows laptop dumba$$😡 nobody’s forcing you to get mac

  • @KrishnaDasPC
    @KrishnaDasPC 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes it's two day's trying to move icloud data to google cloud and still can't complete it. No option to download a folder in i cloud web. If you have lot of files you need a Mac for that.

  • @brandnaqua
    @brandnaqua 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i stand by Apple! we choose their products willingly!

  • @S.Archer
    @S.Archer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    *Sony, Amazon, & Microsoft also take 30% cut.. this isn’t an unusual practice.*

    • @siliconhawk
      @siliconhawk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      well the problem is that iphone users dont get a real choice their ONLY choice is app store and nothing else. android has side loading and 3rd party app stores idk how they manage payments tbh i don't use Google's payment services coz here in my country the government and the banks have their own system without the manufacturer's as an intermediary.

    • @Jj82op
      @Jj82op 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's called price leadership, they see that Apple can charge 30% more and they say "why not? Lets do that too".

    • @MichaelGGarry
      @MichaelGGarry 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@siliconhawk Android has MASSIVE piracy problems and iPhone does not. The average developer earns multiple times more on iOS than on Android. Also Apples developer charge starts at 15%, its not 30% for everyone.

    • @MichaelGGarry
      @MichaelGGarry 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Jj82op
      "It's called price leadership, they see that Apple can charge 30% more and they say "why not? Lets do that too"."
      Incorrect. Apple were nowhere near the first to charge 30% for digital stores. Valve for instance beat them by years with Steam.

    • @coshvjicujmlqef6047
      @coshvjicujmlqef6047 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      when did microsoft take 30% cut?

  • @jbradleyuk
    @jbradleyuk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Apple has absolutely been waiting for this moment, they are absolutely prepared I am sure

    • @kilsterart
      @kilsterart 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Aren't they being annihilated in the EU space for this very reason? 🤔 Although, who knows what will happen in the US 🤷

    • @antiseth3964
      @antiseth3964 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@kilsterartI think the key there is that the EU is giving very little slack to Apple’s response and enforcing their resolutions. I don’t think the DoJ will ever get so far as to force Apple to behave the way they want them to.

    • @kilsterart
      @kilsterart 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@antiseth3964 I can agree to that, tho I do hope we can get some good change from it.

    • @frenchiesaparis5741
      @frenchiesaparis5741 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pulling out chequebooks

    • @3811eric
      @3811eric 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      prepared for what? to get destroyed maybe.

  • @Dabbill
    @Dabbill 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Its simple. If you don't like Apple, iPhone, or any other product. Then do not buy it. There are other options. If you want to fight a monopoly, then go after ISP's. Vast majority of houses only have one broadband connection available at their house.

    • @AnakinSkywalker_1858
      @AnakinSkywalker_1858 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Exactly 🤝

    • @sonictonic_
      @sonictonic_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      100%, but it's much more salacious to go after Apple than Comcast, right? LOL such bs. I am in the Apple ecosystem for a reason. I like it. If I didn't, I would go buy an Android. Pretty simple solution, lol.

    • @Dabbill
      @Dabbill 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sonictonic_ Exactly. I was anti Apple for a lot of years. Then 2 years ago I finally dipped my toe in, and the waters are very nice over here. I got tired of Android and them trying to make it compatible with everything. It makes for more stuff to go wrong. I am much happier with my device just working. You are not locked in to any one cell phone company. Unless you are locked in to a payment plan with the cell carrier, but the person choose to do that.

    • @RockyRZ
      @RockyRZ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Apple simp

    • @AnakinSkywalker_1858
      @AnakinSkywalker_1858 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RockyRZ it’s common sense and logic
      You see this is why you don’t skip college

  • @moranmono
    @moranmono 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One day I will be too a senior director of corporate communications. God I love those corporate titles. 😂

  • @moramento22
    @moramento22 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So this is surely changing Friday's episode of Vergecast

  • @_____alyptic
    @_____alyptic 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    They didnt sort Microsoft out though

  • @FilipHrnko
    @FilipHrnko 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What phones are those people using?

    • @M16-bf4ku
      @M16-bf4ku 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      iphones

  • @Pandemonium088
    @Pandemonium088 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Im not a Apple user but the law suit pegs them because a Galaxy Watch does not perfectly work on iOS, its not an Apple made device, isnt that Samsung's responsibility to develop the galaxy wear app to be as good as it is on Android?

    • @pranavmv6333
      @pranavmv6333 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Another apple pig thinking that monopoly is good thing

  • @recursion.
    @recursion. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    so US as a country can be anti competitive banning tiktok and huawei but Apple cant do same?

  • @dancruze
    @dancruze 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you dont like apple, no one is forcing you to buy it. 😮

  • @c0t0d0s7
    @c0t0d0s7 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I haven’t seen anything this bad since the Anita Bryant concert.

  • @Thatsmantas
    @Thatsmantas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    What about Playstation and Xbox opening up and allowing side loading?

    • @the_mariocrafter
      @the_mariocrafter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s an issue for the OAMA act to adress.

    • @CrisCheese_
      @CrisCheese_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Im pretty sure the laws surrounding game consoles are different to a general purpose device like a mobile phone or other personal computers

  • @GabeSmith-p7j
    @GabeSmith-p7j 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Here is a novel idea, if you don’t like Apple’s App Store fees, or just don’t like what Apple stands for, don’t buy an apple product. Or if you’re an app developer, don’t do business with Apple.
    Wow….what an idea! 🤦‍♂️

  • @durgacharanmajhi6802
    @durgacharanmajhi6802 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So if the pricing of upgrading from 8gigs to 16gigs is way higher, why go mac, and not windows? Cause people know MacBook can perform certain way windows can't. Can't afford for an extra 8gigs, then go windows. Go Android, go windows. No one is actually forcing you to go Apple way. You yourself empting your wallet, and blaming someone else.

  • @MrX8503
    @MrX8503 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I DON’T WANT TO USE 3rd party digital wallets!!! 😡

    • @MG36963
      @MG36963 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Then don't. Nothing is forcing you to use them

  • @JamesOrlowski
    @JamesOrlowski 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    It's not a monopoly. Don't want to use an iPhone? Get an Android. Simple. No one is forcing anyone to buy an iPhone. There are plenty of alternate devices available to everyone. Do you know what IS a monopoly? Cable companies in many parts of the country where they're the only Internet service.

    • @Undisputed_King
      @Undisputed_King 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm an Android user and I second this. These people are just jealous and the US government is scared of Apple because their market cap might one day overtake the entire nation's GDP lol.

    • @carlonharrington
      @carlonharrington 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also utilities. Sue them for daylight robbery

    • @alphabeta8284
      @alphabeta8284 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Imagine simping for apple

    • @therealrajan
      @therealrajan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, it is a monopoly lol, do you think the people at the DOJ at a bunch of idiots who can't tell what a monopoly is? That's the main reason they're being sued for.

  • @PickleRickC137.8
    @PickleRickC137.8 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    If you don’t like it, don’t buy it… but clearly most people do…

    • @ironspider6851
      @ironspider6851 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      and yet they complain "uhhh... my iPhone does not allow me to do this and that".
      like seriously... you put yourself in that situation. apple has been doing this for years.
      its your fault that you bought an iphone.

    • @GeoffDiaz
      @GeoffDiaz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠@@ironspider6851Apple user since iPhone 4s. I have never said “it doesn’t allow me to do…” if you want to do more. Simply get an android. If you want something simple and works well with its other products then get Apple. People do not need to get Apple products. People can complain all they want about how they can’t upgrade things or download certain things on those products. But they don’t have to use those products either.

    • @M16-bf4ku
      @M16-bf4ku 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      because you are out of options mfker
      you have anything other than an apple in college,
      you' re gonna get bullied real hard

  • @411hippieCO
    @411hippieCO 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    It's not a monopoly; if there's choice and there is.

  • @u1tranatoryt323
    @u1tranatoryt323 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I personally don’t find iPhones worth it, I keep apple for Mac and iPad Pro

  • @DaSIL3NC3R
    @DaSIL3NC3R 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This lawsuit is nonsense, suing for the green bubbles? It’s an Apple device. Why don’t you sue the power companies?

  • @Spoonfed78
    @Spoonfed78 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The irony of Microsoft comparison with Internet Explorer yet for decades IOS, only browser skins for you 🤣

    • @carlstevenwilletts
      @carlstevenwilletts 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly! In addition, you could always install another browser on any variation of Windows I have used, and I don't believe it was a 'skin' like every other browser on iOS is. What used to irritate me was when you visited a website and it told you that you needed IE to view the website correctly.

  • @rhemy1
    @rhemy1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I’m so sick of people complaining about Apple. Apple is a closed eco system. Apple and Microsoft are vastly different. No one has to buy an iPhone. If you want cheaper apps or apps that are only on android you can switch to an android phone. People pay the Apple tax for a reason.

  • @tren-y2m
    @tren-y2m 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Didn't hear you mention the spotify thing. How spotify has to pay Apple 30% of what it makes to use the app store, while doesn't have to pay this when promoting Apple Music on the same app store

    • @asjsjsienxjsks673
      @asjsjsienxjsks673 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Why doesn’t Spotify create their own phone then?

    • @JezzLundkvist
      @JezzLundkvist 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why should take 30% from their own pocket for their own app?

    • @AnakinSkywalker_1858
      @AnakinSkywalker_1858 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@JezzLundkvistyou see I said it some people are so $tupid on this internet and don’t listen to themselves when they talk..😂😂😂

    • @AnakinSkywalker_1858
      @AnakinSkywalker_1858 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@asjsjsienxjsks673exactly they don’t want to pay when using Apple’s payment processing network to collect payment ?🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @gjune36
    @gjune36 หลายเดือนก่อน

    my top concern is only allowing apps to be install through the app store. that is messed up

  • @linkshadow2
    @linkshadow2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “Buy your mom an iPhone” is just another way of saying “Pay me money” like dude, just fix the problem??

  • @draughonc
    @draughonc 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    No one forces people to buy an Apple product. But the government, at least these nits, think they know whats best.

    • @ggproductions7078
      @ggproductions7078 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      That's always an interesting position. Well, if you force people into exclusivity, when they design their devices to operate with poorer quality when used with non Apple devices and don't allow others to access their platform, it is anti competitive. This is not just about cost, I have a Macstudio, an S24 plus and Sony headphones, as well as a Windows laptop. Guess which devices play nicely with each other and which don't?

    • @ironspider6851
      @ironspider6851 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ggproductions7078 I'm not with apple or anything but the only reason your s24 works well with your windows laptop is because Microsoft and google have collaborated to get that broader set of consumers.
      initially neither android nor ios could connect with windows. back then ios could connect with mac but android couldn't connect with windows. so they made this feature.
      also I'm not really sure but i think Samsung phones do have an edge over connecting with windows computers than any other phones like Xiaomi or Oneplus. i have a Samsung so i don't know how good are the other android phones at connecting with windows. I have to do more research on this topic.
      and could you please elaborate on the Sony headphones issue?

    • @ggproductions7078
      @ggproductions7078 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ironspider6851 hi there, about the xm4s, yeah, I probably need to update to something else soon, if I am connected to my mac and a call comes in, I don't seem to able to remain connected to my mac. Sorry for not being very clear. Windows machine, connected to phone and laptop, phone goes, pauses laptop connection, hang up call, instantly back to laptop/desktop audio, not so much with my mac, have to reconnect the Bluetooth. Oh, and I know why they play nicely. That was my point! Apple (until they incorporate Google AI) don't like to help users be cross-platform . Samsung limit some features of their buds too, don't get me wrong, Apple aren't unique they just take it to another level is all. Again, use a Macstudio so not anti Apple.

  • @Dank_Engine
    @Dank_Engine 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    They built the platform. They built the delivery system, the App Store. Now they’re being sued for taking their cut in a business model that they created.

    • @dansanger5340
      @dansanger5340 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      And? That's what the anti-monopoly laws are for, to prevent companies from using their market dominance to gain even more market dominance. Have you ever wondered why you can watch pretty much any movie in any theater? Anti-monopoly law. Many years ago, each of the movie studios had their own movie theater chains and you could only watch certain movies in certain theaters.

    • @illpunchyouintheface9094
      @illpunchyouintheface9094 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kids be like: “iTs gOoOd tHIng DaY Get to cOntrOL eVeRYtHinG”

    • @pranavmv6333
      @pranavmv6333 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Another apple pig thinking that monopoly is a good thing

  • @BlindMango
    @BlindMango 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Does The Verge exclusively do their hiring from the drama classes at their local college?

    • @kwb36
      @kwb36 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You asking because you wanna apply?

    • @voodoodisco
      @voodoodisco 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah the vergin is very anti-apple in reporting. the guy making this video definitely did high school theater

  • @phonepup06
    @phonepup06 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How does this mean cheaper iPhones? Wouldn’t them losing revenue from the App Store lead to the opposite?

    • @jackdominiak445
      @jackdominiak445 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Idiots will always be idiots (I'm off course referring to the government!

  • @1str2lost78
    @1str2lost78 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When you read apple’s response, you skipped a sentence. Purposely?? 🤔🤔