Landmark lawsuit: United States vs. Apple | About That
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- The U.S. Department of Justice filed a sweeping lawsuit against Apple, accusing the technology company and smartphone maker of maintaining a monopoly by unfairly squeezing out the competition. Andrew Chang explains why the DOJ alleges Apple broke antitrust laws, and examines the point at which a monopoly becomes illegal.
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"They laughed... But the DoJ didn't." That line 🔥🔥
No one cares
Android user, right? 😂
@@christopherbrunson1232 no. I only replace mine every 5 years or so.
the woke cult continues
indian
Let's not even talk about how they ruined the industry by digitally signing the parts to their devices, making it impossible to use third-party repair parts and other anti-repair practices. Now other companies are following suit.
For anyone wondering, this is called parts pairing. Louis Rossman, and many other people in repair have a lot to say about this practice.
u can use third party repair parts i'm using displays right bow that aren't apple genuine their are not the best but they work so stop bluffing
@@alexandrumacavei3223, fam, just look up parts pairing and stop trying to use your single solitary experience as a way to back up your ignorance. Just because you can use a third-party part, doesn't mean it'll be 100% up to snuff. I believe it depends on the phone you have. It's a newer practice, so older phones are affected less than newer ones (if I remember correctly). An example of 3p parts (or even 1p parts from another iPhone) not working is you can swap the screen but the fingerprint reader won't work. Just look it up. It's not hard. The time it took you to write that response, you could've found answers yourself. 🙄
@@ChrisDecrease this guy is probably using pre iPhone x iPhone or doesn't own an apple device
so that people will not use all third rate Chinese components causing explosion everywhere and then blame Apple for allowing spurious parts in their devices. what a dichotomy!!
I feel the EU are the leaders of mobile reforms when it comes to iPhones. We probably wouldn't have iPhones with USB-C w/o them!
Tbh I couldn’t have cared less about having USB-C or not, didn’t change my life in any way. What I would like to have it is an actual customizable Home Screen 😭
Same, don’t care about type C. Don’t like iOS then just buy Android I don’t see the problem.
EU has been renovating the iphone more than apple themselves lmao
@@joweeholmes Having USB-C is called making it compatible.....iphone using lightning is monopoly and forcing users to use their products exclusively. Its called locking-in customers. There is a reason its so damn difficult to get out of Apple's ecosystem.
either you're an apple hater, or a fool. Yes, the USB-C has improved the convenience for the iphone. But the EU restricting devices to use USB-C also makes it impossible for anyone to develop anything BETTER, because now they are forced to stay with USB-C, and are legally not allowed to make something better...
Never thought I would see the day when apple would be made to dance to the sound of the music they have been writing for years.
r/im14andthisisdeep
@@johntheboy6555omg ur so quirky, quirky little redditor
Yeah...I'm so like, lost of words. I wonder how this will all go down in the end. 😳
Greed of Apple will be it's downfall
@@zfvr nope, it'll be lazy lousy companies crying to a bunch of bureaucrats and complaining that Apple is to good.
Imagine if google only allowed 1080p quality for just pixel devices but caped other phones to 480p and apple saying that one should buy an iPhone to talk to their mom is just bad
Tell me this. When you build a product that is amazing, spend years in research and development and only to have success and let your competitors have a piece of that success without doing the work, how is that fair?
Google doing that is only detrimental to them cos you want more people to watch, youtube makes money irrespective of the devices. Apple makes money cos of their devices.
That is ridiculous. You can text android phones. Now I do agree they should support RCS but if you think Samsung or google dont want you to just buy there phone, you are crazy
@@anthonyhernandez6230????
@@anthonyhernandez6230Of course they do but I've never had issues with them not working with other devices--except Apple products. It doesn't fight you whenever you connect something 3rd party (the entire reason why I switched from iPhone)
@@anthonyhernandez6230RCS was already planned for iOS 18
When I visited US it's funny how people there are so big on iphone and how they look down on Android users, but eventually figured out that it's just how they were programmed, is ironic that they're so proud of their freedom not knowing how manipulated they are by the consumer market
Precisely. Programmed is the right word.
I travel a lot internationally. Android phones are just easier to access/use than iPhones since they're used pretty much in every country- rich or poor.
IPhones are just a social wealth status in third world countries. Iphone innovation have become stagnant ever since Steve Jobs passed away.
I've only seen that behavior in youtube videos and by the younger generation. I'm a millineal with an android, begrudgingly, since I'm a massive PC user. I don't understand why having a small, puny, weak computer in your hand is anything to be proud of.
yeah as an android user i was brainwashed to buy an iphone that costed me 1300$ and now i regret it, definitely will come back to android, samsung is way better
Doesn’t Android phones also cost in the region of $1000s
Let me make a car, which takes only gas sold by my company and it runs on roads made by my company.
is your company apple by the way? ive get to get on the 'ecosystem'.
if your car gas and road is better than others only then its gona work
I’m willing to go on those roads since apple has a track record have having the better roads and gas
can you car install any apps you want to? no? yea every company does what apples does. apple is just the best so they are getting questioned about it. lol no other companies can make good stuff that works seamlessly with their other products, and they expect to be able to magically do this with apple? lol
You mean, let me make an electric car that can only be charged with the proprietary port that we designed and runs only on the software we designed. Oh, that's Tesla.
When my iPhone lightning port broke I had to rely on wireless chargers. Then one day iPhone released an update and suddenly 3rd party wireless chargers became way way slower.
You got hosed
Can you tell more details? Which version was it?
exactly they make 3rd party components compatible but in limited capability. hindering you from choosing a non apple product.
apple over priced simple move over to android and much better user experience too
I exclusively use third party wireless chargers and I’ve never noticed that.
So we just realized this about 20 years after IPhone was invented?
BETTER LATE THAN NEVER
That's Apple moto, "Anything they can do we can do LATER" 🤣
antitrust is a thing that can happen in any time in these markets. so. its unreasonable to bring up 20 years ago. what's been happening recently is making it clear that the industry needs competition and to break apart the anticompetitive practices that are halting job creation in tech, and rising prices on products, and lacks of options for consumers.
The check bounced this time around
Not really, there's been criticisms against Apple for years now both from individuals and organisations. We also need to consider the fact that cases take years for build.
Took apple 30 years to become 90’s Microsoft 😂
Graphical user interface based MS windows exist all because of copying macOS.
When I see someone unironically comment on the message colors (which is less common nowadays) I actually *love it* so much because it gives me an indicator as to who is worth spending my time on and who I'm better off not paying attention to. It's the ultimate maturity filter.
But why buy apple products if you don't want to be locked up with their ecosystem? Just buy android right?
Just cause u like the phone doesn't mean ul automatically want to buy every other accessory from apple
Green bubbles are a social stigma here in the US, particularly among teenagers. I must be getting old, because I'm genuinely baffled why this is a thing. I guess it just goes to show that people will stigmatize each other over the most ridiculous things.
I'm a android user and never noticed what bubble I have. I usually use a 3rd party messenger instead of the stock one my phone come with.
Then get an iPhone, simple.
@@taylorcontreras5656And some people do switch to iPhone because of silly stuff like bubble color. I believe the DOJ brought that up in the announcement of their suit.
@@CyborgZeta Then that was they’re choice & if they got an iPhone now they don’t have green bubbles problem solved.
@@taylorcontreras5656It's a problem when there's a social stigma that makes people feel the need to buy a certain company's phones. And when said stigma is, arguably, stoked by said certain company in the first place.
Maybe Google should make it difficult for apple user to watch TH-cam. 😂 Or take it out all together
💀💀😹
That would be a crazy 😂
Maybe Google should try to copy the iPhone and make their own version that works better.
@@BobDole-dh7ke the iphone wouldn't work so well without TH-cam and allllllll Google apps 😁😁😁😄
Nice alternative
The consumer should not support Apple.
exactly
Maybe Apple should be banned and we have just one company owned by the government 😅
Then how can I say I'm cool by paying gob$ to be in the ecosystem? Muahahahah. 🤖
@thiscanadianguysopinion7947. == 1.4 billion people disagree with your silly comment. You've been outvoted.
Male species in my family agree with this comment but female species in my family disagree with it. They claim it makes their lives easy.
I just wanted to say, Andrew you do a great job explaining these things!
Why can’t this be done in Canada, every single industry is monopolized
Our government benefits from it
They can continue making good products while being fair with other companies.
They actually weren’t able to make the Apple Watch on Android. It wasn’t a good experience.
I really like the way you approach a story, thanks!
I've NEVER paid money for an Apple product, and never will.
I dont have a single Apple product either😅.
And there you go, Apple is not a monopoly as there *are* lots of people that prefer android and others.
Only in the US, Apple is a major player in
Congratulations. Is that some kind of achievement over there in the US??? 😊
Ok bye
iTunes on Windows is a classic example
when a company becomes too powerful and is nearly a monopoly that's when the Government steps in.
Finally the small ripple that the EU made is now making its way stateside.
Not a monopoly, you're misusing the word. They only have 21% of worldwide smartphones, takes around 90% to be considered a monopoly.
@@bruxi78230In the statement by the DOJ they said Apple haa 70% market share of smart phones in the United States
@@bruxi78230agreed
Furthermore google has 100% of the private information of 90% of the people in almost all countries…
@@bruxi78230ohhhhh we have a genius here. Do you teach economy science at Harvard?
@@Teluric2 ---- Kids, Professor Teluric will share with us today examples of companies with low market share that have been declared monopolies. Go ahead Professor, we're all ears.
Finally! Ive been waiting for it to happen for years
And you might not like the end result (if you’re an iPhone user). The government wants to make it easier to get your data.
@MorbidGod391 so you'd rather give all your data to Apple?
Just like apple music. I paid for my music but cannot transfer it to my android phone.
Apple Music the subscription service?
Exactly they are not allowing other parties to be used you are forced
Apple Music works on Android pretty well, I used it for a few years on android after my iPhone broke and I was pretty happy with it
Sure you can use the recorder 😂
The ones you download from iTunes can be transferred. However, Apple Music (the monthly subscription service) is a streaming service.
Not just the smartphone experience, literally everythign about Apple's ecosystem is anti-competitive.
Apple peripherals used with non-Apple products lose features. Non-Apple peripherals don't work as well with Apple-proprietary-ones do, despite little difference in design. Ever tried installing an app from a source other than the Apple Store? You can't do it without some rather heroic measures, which then cut you off from Apple's ecosystem until you re-install a stock version of iOS.
Don't even get me started on hardware repairs and replacement parts sourcing.
Er, I'm a software dev and I'm constantly installing stuff from outside the Apple store. I literally BUILD my applications from source code. They run fine, whether they're signed or not (if they're not, you literally check one box in the security preference pane to allow it, and you actually have to SEEK OUT unsigned applications because they're so uncommon). I think I have about five apps from the official Apple store that I paid for. Maybe even fewer.
Thats why people use android that allows third party apps.
Apple’s claim will be for security reasons. Less chance for breaches if you don’t allow the Trojan Horses to connect. The companies I’ve worked for all had iPhones as company phones. What does that tell you
@@disontago5729 apple has had the biggest and worst security breaches of any mobile company in history. They have had their users clouds hacked multiple times and the worst one they had it so users with 2 phones could call their other phone and another persons phone in a group chat and then answering on their second phone would open the video call on all the other calls in the chat without their knowledge or consent and that security breach persisted over 48 hours. People were spying on others with nothing but their phone number and a second phone and picking up the video call before it even rang.
they succumbed to apple marketing @@disontago5729
Then the DOJ should sue Walmart for not accepting Apple Pay and Google pay.
The DOJ should sue every utility companies as they are practically true monopolies.
They don’t want to mention Wal-Mart because that’s an example of how someone can make a convenient digital wallet without tap to pay.
Here comes the unconditional apple blind supporter.
@@Teluric2 I hate Apple. Unlike you, I am not emotionally tied to it as you are. I just don’t like their product’s prices.
“She got an android the messages is lime green”😂guess it’s that’s deep
You explain it so good, thank you.
Google also makes every competitor product or service worse, and it’s more important than what Apple does, since you can completely ignore Apple, but you can’t completely ignore Google.
About time, people are waking up apple!
Can’t wait to move away from apple devices with my next upgrades
Same I’m literally stuck cause the ecosystem and don’t feel like getting bullied
Samee here ! Apple really got me good, I’ve been extremely scared to switch over but I’m doing it soon
They don't even let you watch VR adult videos with their VR headset, they are a terribly anti consumer company. Anyone supporting them is getting ripped off.
@@daemenoth now why would you want to do that? 🤨 you’re going to destroy your life buddy.
Same here.
This is a great show on CBC, so many good ones but Mr. Chang breaks down many complex issues, simplifying the for easier understanding then summarizing perspectives in short episodes. Great production that I appreciate, good job to all involved.
Very surprised about no one mentioning how Apple removed the Charger Bricks from All iPhone devices since either the iPhone 11 or 12
Yeah you are right. And when they did that, other Brands like Samsung, Google pixel etc followed their foot steps.
Now our days, we pay soo much for devices but still Can have a charger brick along with the smartphone.
Even DOJ Says Apple is the Best nothing Comes Close 😂
A Blue Ray can’t play on a DVD player.
5.07 "Cheaper android phones" showing the Samsung S24 Ultra that it's more expensive than any top iPhone device!
You're an amazing reviewer! You got a new subscriber!
The irony is that some of the very things in the suit are the reason Apple was popular to begin with. I use both, my personal being Android and my work being iPhone.... iPhone is great for productivity, but I still prefer the android experience and freedom it gives.
Canada needs to follow
Forget it; We cannot elect a decent prime minister let alone bringing a corporate giant into courts.
I'll be voting for Pierre next year for sure @hassaanvault
The whole world *
@@sawyerleemoore pp surely will side with Apple. He is too right. Only progressive cons can do the job.
@MrJamiez well, eu is the first, then US, the only major market left is Asia.
Good. About time.
Samsung does the same with their watches, they have more features with Samsung phones,and work better with Samsung phones than with other Android devices. The apple watch is made for ios, duh it only works with Apple phones, like the current Android watches don't work with iPhones. This is insane, instead of going after Apple, tell Google to stop trying to sell 2 to 3 year old chips on their flagship phones for 1000usd.
Others watches are restricted on the iPhone by apple. Apple has the choice of making the iPhone work with Android. The os does not restrict it.
So Apple has a platform and a SEPARATE product, the Apple watch. This product is given an unfair advantage because it does not compete only on its own merits but is given a boost by THE HANDICAP platform places on its competitors.
This is anti competitive.
Again Samsung does the same thing by limiting the functions on their watches with other android devices so people switch to thier products. Apple is being punished for making their ecosystem great. The super app mentioned in this video is what the Chinese government uses to monitor their citizens which is not what we want here in the US.
Those who understand technology would never buy Apple products, it's so limited to what features you get in other devices, but Apple products are very good for making people spend huge money.
This is the best explanation of what’s going on with this Apple matter. Easy for a regular person to understand. Thank You.
thats good
apple has no one to blame but themselves. they should really try to make a comparably priced mobile phone rather then handicap everything around them
That! Or make the software experience second to none
@@mohammabdulrehmanoh it would be lucky to be second as against anything 🤣 , lacking and lagging behind
I agree that Apple brought this onto themselves, but their iPhones start at $429. That’s pretty cheap. (This is brand new btw not used)
@@mohammabdulrehmanI’d argue they have done that.
@@MorbidGod391 cheap is relative though. The SE really should be $100 at best though, it's extremely dated and even looks like its from over 10 years ago. You can get a Moto G84 for near half the price in various markets and it's more comparable to the 15 , better in some areas behind in others.
Price isn't relative though people can choose, it's the manipulation that had twisted peoples and societies perception via law breaching behaviour that's the concern.
The situation with messages between iPhone and android was the main reason I never switched even if I loved foldable phones from Android
Good news - Apple announced this situation will be fixed this year. So feel free to switch!
Apple is adopting RCS messaging protocol this year. (iOS 18). That should fix all the messaging issues between iMessage and Android.
10:31 Apple hasn’t done anything wrong. Get an Android phone if you’re unhappy
Cool story, now breakdown Visa’s take at 0.3%
Dont forget what they did with Tiles when they wanted to launch their own AirTags
they opened tile up to use apple network helping them more than any other company ever. NICE.
And the Beats by Dre line. They bought it and then put it in the background so their Airpods line can shine.
It’s surprising that wasn’t in the lawsuit.
I've been using Android phones forever (Samsung S series, specifically) and never felt it's inferior to iPhone. In fact, it connects/syncs seamlessly to my smart devices, TV, laptop, etc....while my partner's iPhone can't.
So, yeah, so what Apple shows my text in Green amidst a sea of Blue mindless followers 🤷🏻♂️
Exactly. Apple has an amazing marketing team to convince their users it's superior. Meanwhile, it functions like a child's simplified toy. I recommended an apple phone to my non tech savvy friend and they loved it. It's simple, stream lined, and there's a lack of having to decide on what accessories to purchase since they're pigeonholed into apples limited options. But they'll all scream that we're poor for not owning one 😂
The Samsung Ultra phones are more expensive than the iPhone.
@@robo9439 I wouldn't know, I've only ever used the standard S models
In many business studies, Apple‘s strategy is called lock-in. And they praise it as innovation. But Apple was sued for a monopoly.😂
So locked in meaning u will ban other devices Bluetooth not compatible why can't they come up with proprietary wifi
They almost did,@@bitwametwith the now obsolete AirPort hardware.
@@bitwamet ---- Nobody is banned and the owner of the other device is responsible for the software that makes their device work. All they have to do is submit it to the App Store. The only exception would be if the other device breaks some other law like illegal use of music, then Apple would restrict the device at the behest of the owners of the music.
Tim Cooks response. "Buy your mom an iPhone" 😅
I don’t like this law suit, specially from the government. when is the government ever on our side.
never, but i think apple touched their cake, hence the hostility.
You should have mentioned the worst issue. The way they degrade video and picture quality. It's terrible!
Several companies made it work and Apple closed all the doors in the name of "security". There's no reason for video quality to be SO bad!
This is long overdue! I don't care anything about having Apple hardware, but degrading others quality and monopolizing is another.
The EU should also enter the chat. It's been too long.
Apple is adopting RCS messaging protocol this year. That will fix the problem with texting between iMessage and Android. RCS does everything that iMessage does. High quality images and videos, typing indicator, better group chats, etc. The green bubble thing might remain, but every other issue with messaging between iMessage and Android will be fixed. 😊
Coming here after Front Page Tech's half-assed take on the same lawsuit feels like my braincells have been restored. Thanks, Andrew Chang, for that brilliant clarification.
Isn't it the same for Amazon that it does not allow negative feedbacks on seller that it Amazon itself?
Maybe security is more important. If an open system totally unsecured.
Sadly, Apple has shown that security isn’t the main reason for a lot of these choices.
Apple has a lot to answer for. They've been a terrible example for other tech companies to copy to the detriment of the consumers. I have incurred loses from buying both their phones and laptops and discovered all their anti repair tactics. I don't do any Apple anymore. If only others could do same
I prefer a PC for office work and Gaming. But I think Graphic Design, music and video editing just works better on Mac so I use both but this is due to OS. I do agree on repair on computer and Mac items being overpriced. But go get a top end Samsung fixed or screen replaced and you will see that it is just as expensive as an Apple or costs more. In fact, some repair shops only will do Apple because Androids are not worth it.
Thank you for breaking this down. I now have a broaden perspective on this lawsuit and it sheds light to the things that people really aren’t seeing.
Nicely done! Thanks a bunch
Only people lacking in deep understanding of Apple would put such a Lawsuit. In my humble opinion, The walled garden apple's put up might be some inconvenience to customers but it also benefits them immensely. And it is why apple is a sub trillion dollar company. From the beginning, it was Steve himself who put up the idea of not letting user decide what is best for them and not letting them into their devices, (a closed system) Rather Apple would decide what's best. For it makes apple, APPLE!
Which is; highest quality devices, devices with industry leading user security, encryption, stable OS, Hardware-software calibration like no other, less prone to malware, and the sheer fluidity that iOs runs with is only possible through such measures.
stable OS i wouldnt say this , owe both iphone 15 pro max and samsung s24 ultra , i can tell you android is more stable then ios. check back how many issues iphone had and still have . I am not saying android is bug free just much better
Did U ever use android to make such accusations? I've used both and realized besides aesthetics value, nothing about apple is special
It's still bothers me that Apple is saying that this is wrong but they benefited from the exact same thing with Microsoft. In fact, Apple was on the brink of bankruptcy at the time and they leveraged the courts just to survive. As for innovation, Apple has never offered that. They either steal other IP, they steal employees under the guise of partnership, or they devalue companies and buy them up. Before 2005 I would have defended any Apple product but since the iPod and the iPhone I have steered clear. I can't stand for a company that takes everything and innovates nothing. They have been reduced to a branding exercise.
the DOJ was spot on saying they do not make better products but limit capabilities of other companies to make better products
apple only thing they did good is the design of the phones rest literally nothing has been a market leader
@@mr_coffee9917 apple is a market leader in showing how they can remove an accessory for each iteration and sell the phone for a higher price, and still get away with it
Good points and you didn't even mention Microsoft investing in Apple back then.
@seanlavery0312 ==. Sean, simple math tells us Apple is nothing like Microsoft in the late 90s. Microsoft had 93% of the market for PCs and were a true monopoly. Apple has 21% of the worldwide smartphone market and can't possibly be considered a monopoly under US law. Just because the US DoJ sues someone does not mean they have any idea of what's going on. The DoJ will lose this particular case and look like the fools they are.
okay great, the politicians are ensuring there are no monopoly's in tech. Well what about grocery? Real Estate? etc... things like food and shelter need to be addressed
One step at a time, darling. They'd tell you they're not paid enough to multitask lol
Food can be fixed. Stop printing money that devalues the dollar.
When Tim said"Buy yuor Mon and Iphone' he is Really Cook😅😅😅
I am forced to like a rectangle watch.
One of the only things I like about the modern United States is that they will face facts and even sue American companies if they are found guilty somehow, and have no inherent bias for or against American and other foreign companies respectively. I hope this righteousness trend continues without any hypocrisy.
There is a huge bias against Chinese companies, and they are hugely lenient to apple, Tesla, GM, Comcast,etc..m
@@growtocycle6992 I thought that earlier but it feels like a modern trend, probably because the Chinese corporate giants are more modern day giants. However, if you are to study the recent past (last 10-15 years till date), you will find they are nearly equally harsh on their own companies. And with most Chinese companies, their only problem seems to be them being under CCP hold which may cause surveillance of customers or concealment of important data. Given Xi's tactics nowadays, it is not too much of an overstatement; I'm sure you will agree.
@@growtocycle6992 It may seem like that but I have dug deeper into it; it is not exactly that. The Chinese companies are more modern day giants which is why it may feel such because they are more in the news nowadays. However, if you study the recent past (last 10-15 years till date), you will find that a lot of their own companies have been under fire by their legal system. Their main problem with the Chinese companies seems to be the CCP's alleged hold on them, which may lead to surveillance of the users or concealment of important data. If you follow Xi's recent actions, you may agree with me.
BTW, I checked out your channel. Are you from Zealand?
But surely everyone knows apple wants the world to use only apple. Their ecosystem powered by eternally loyal yet blind users is what gives them power. In the end, nobody can deny their absolute marketing genius.
Agreed. Their marketing team is genius. They crafted a blind cult like following
This is the first video which convinces me to lean more towards the DOJ on this one. Other products are indeed made to perform worse!
Interesting, I’m feeling the opposite after watching this.
I’m not against the argument. I think Apple does go to far sometimes.
I am against the spirit of this lawsuit. It’s more about making things worse for the consumer by making it easier to use third party messaging and payment apps so the government can easily get that information from those companies.
Imagine a theft happened in your neighborhood. And they create a broad geofence warrant and texting warrants. They right now can’t really do that. But if more people used “Super App” to send messages, they could collect more info with these types of warrants.
Don’t think that will happen? It already is a thing with geofence warrants. Right now trying to broadly get text message data isn’t very effective.
Guess Apple stopped paying dongle donation money to politicians.
“Apple makes third party products worse” so Apple manufactures Samsung products now? 😂
No, they meant apple stops their devices from interacting with non apple products while all other devices interact with each other seamlessly, and after doing that, apple tells their users that it's other device's problem that they can't interact seamlessly with apple products when in reality it was apple that blocking it. So users end up thinking apple ecosystem is so good that other products and services can't even interact nicely with apple devices and that makes other services seem worse in eyes of apple users. Google doesn't block apple users from accessing TH-cam, neither they intentionally downgrade apple user's experience of interacting with youtube.
The only time I want US govt to win.
Circa 2007, I remeber I can't transfer a file between the iphone 1 and an android phone via bluetooth.
Your choice Apple or Android. They are different work different. If you don’t like Apple don’t buy it. Apple products are expensive, Apple users are cultlike. Android users are just as proud. Not a monopoly but a well designed system that works. It does not have to be compatible with Android.
Andriod phone isnt one single brand 🤣
Then why do we even anti monopolistic laws? You think Tesla opened up their super chargers out of the good of their heart? Think beyond a simplistic "other companies should also create monopolies" rhetoric
So the question is, does apple get out of the US where it's the villain, or out of China where it is the victim?
Monopolies are allowed in the US. Abusing monopoly power, that’s against anti-trust laws. So overusing the word Monopoly is actually neither here nor there…
"Monopolies are allowed in the US" emmm consider reading the section 2 of the sherman anti trust law?
I dont think apple is blocking functionalities. The standard sms is really non encrypted and with less functionality. Apple only did some enhancements as add-on to the standard which is proprietary to apple.
Android uses RCS messaging protocol and it works just as good as iMessage. At least Apple said they are adding RCS support with iOS 18. That will fix all the texting issues between iMessage and Android. 🙂
So a company is trying to control their customers? When is such an action justified? Is it justified in gaming? How about films and tv series?
You completely missed the point. The idea is that a company is using incentives which have nothing to do with the product's quality to make people buy their product/keep buying them and they can do this bc they have a monopoly to begin with.
Become so successful the whole world gets jealous
Not really, this is an American reality. In my country, those who use an iPhone are a rarity, the iPhone is considered worse than an Android here.
so.. why is this a problem all of a sudden?
Heavy is the head that wears the crown.
I’ve never had an issue sending anything to an android user. Is this a thing?
Have you ever seen the pixelated video of pictures you’re sending? I use Facebook Messenger when my friends have an Android.
@@MorbidGod391Apple announced that they are adopting RCS messaging protocol this year. (In iOS 18). That will fix all the issues with texting between iMessage and Android. High quality images and videos, typing indicator, not breaking group chats, etc.
I know a lot of apple things are annoying, but I doubt they have the obligation to make these changes. I think the closed eco-system is a double edge sword. I am using iphone for years and I am intentionally opt out using any apple subscription because I am afraid of lossing these services if I change my phone. For the same reason I am really reluctant to buy airpods.
I really dont see where this lawsuit is going. I think a lot of people dont understand that it cost time and money to make things work. The crippling experience of apple products in third party platform is more likely that apple dont want to spend money to make the product compatible rather than apple spend extra money to make these products incompatible.
Can you really force a company to spending money to work for other companies? If that's the case, who's next? Maybe Sony Canon, Nikon? For years, they use exclusive connection between the lens and the camera, which make switching brand almost impossible unless you sell the whole system or use converter that usually hurt the performance. How about BMW? There are a lot of maintainance service that you can only do on in BMW dealership. It is certainly a crippling experience for any third party repair shops. Should you force they to design their cars in a way that any repair shop can maintaince them like a toyota?
That's one reason EV innovation has failed. Society needs the precedent of standardization to move forward and advance human engineering. No company should be allowed to single-handedly stifle innovation.
@@ninjanerdstudent6937 No, EV innovation did not fail, it only fail NA market. I visited my hometown, Guangzhou, last year. 50% cars on the road are EV, over 70% are electrified and they are sale for $20-30k USD with good range, ride quality and large space. If they are sale in America, I have no idea how US automaker is gonna survive. That's probably the reason they dont sale here.
The very reason you dont have affordable EV in America because of your beloved "standardization". The American loss the upper hand in EV development and they know they are not making the rule, aka standard, of EV for the next decades. They rather you dont have an afforable and easy to maintain car than lossing money to China. Making standard is never about innovation but about monopoly. Why do you think companies are so enthusiastic about becoming the standard? Because it is easier for the entity that make the standard to make money. Everyone who follow the standard basically just work "for" that entity.
Why do you even think "Society needs the precedent of standardization to move forward and advance human engineering."? Even you can think of a protocol that can out perform the existing standard, but you cant sell it because it doesnt follow the standard. What kind of advancement is that?
The iPhone is a platform.
@@HandleName_CB I do not care about other nations. Norway has 99% EVs, but it also has a tiny population.
@@ninjanerdstudent6937 China doesnt seem to have a tiny population to me.
If companies were operated democratically as worker/consumer co-ops we would have way less issues than with privately run ones like Apple.
Tight integration across Apple hardware is the reason I bought Apple products. Android is open source. I smell a citizen lawsuit against the US government for devaluation of personal investment.
Steam does the same thing with games, taking up to 30% but nobody says a thing.
It is not about the percentage, but that Apple doesn't allow other marketplaces and/or restrict them to the point that nobody would use them. Steam doesn't prevent games being installed from other sources in your computer, but Apple DOES it in iOS.
"It will hinder innovation" is just an excuse. You can install 3rd party apps in MacOS without problems and they could very well allow the same in iOS, but they want to keep their monopoly for as long as they can.
Gosh, if only there’s another smartphone platform we can use instead of Apple…. Oh wait..
yea but google runs android and it shouldn't be trusted for a second. yuk.
@@Chris_Hruska so you are saying you are tied to Apple...monopoly. DOJ will win.
@Chris_Hruska then why iPhone adopting Gemini ai😅
lol if you can prove that for a fact in the next day ill give you a Tesla. two teslas. yea you can't nice lie Bub. @@Indianpatriot97 anyways, why would I care if it had access to that. Siri uses all sorts of web stuff. I can use chatgpt with Siri right now. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@Chris_Hruska The point is, it's not a monopoly. People buy into Apple ecosystem by choice.
What’s up with the dramatic music
Android user here and have been one since 2009. In particular, I've been extremely partial to the Nexus brand which is now the Pixel. I'll NEVER switch to the iPhone platform as I'm a creature of habit.
Pixels compete really well with the iPhone product, but the iPhone kills pixels in its raw power and it's beautiful transitions. Both my kids have the latest iPhones so i can say this with experience. It's not lost on me that Apple sells you a product and with Android, we ARE the product. The platforms are on two different op models, where Android is ad driven based on your data that it's constantly mining.
All this said, Apple isn't selling a competitive product if walling off features to keep the competition at bay, hence keeping their pricing so high by duping its consumers into thinking they have a superior product. This law suit amongst others can be a good win for the consumer and the overall consumer experience.
theyre greedy af and yall just realizing this making yall their sheep
Excellent investigative reporting. I am an Apple consumer who wondered why my beloved Apple was being sued. I must admit I see as a result of your investigation a reason for concern. Thank you for making it clear why Apple is being brought to the attention of the Justice Department.
Apple finally getting sued for what I've been claiming for YEARS!! I've told my friends who are iPhone users that they are getting played time and time again but everybody literally laughed and thought I was crazy because I preferred Android.
Apple is getting sued because they are just better and the competition can't compete with such excellence.
@Antimonious Ok Stevie 👨🏾🦯😎🤣
@@AntimoniousDepends on the Android phone. My Galaxy S24 Ultra is more expensive than the iPhone. I like iPhones, but they shouldn't have been purposely degrading the messaging experience with android phones. If I text another android phone, it does everything that iMessage does. At least Apple is adopting RCS messaging protocol later this year (on iOS 18). That will make texting between iMessage and Android seamless. High quality images and videos, texting indicator, not breaking group chats, etc.
Suit only just got started.
I Support Apple it’s your company there product I don’t like that it’s safe and it’s not so trashy and I just don’t want anybody to have access to my stuff. I love my Apple products
My android (Galaxy S24 Ultra) is more expensive than the iPhone. Not all android phones are low budget trash.
Bro this guy can literally explain anything. Please teach me physics next
So I’m trying to understand with my limited understanding in the subject. So the monopoly is not for the cell phone because other companies make cell phones as well. And do sell in the U.S.
But the problem is Apple make apps and other various software run bad on apple devices? Is that what the monopoly is? Or is it much deeper than what I’m hearing.
But don’t other companies do the same thing as Apple?
Can someone explain this to me in a layman’s term.
Next Amazon CEO Jeff one day!
Some of these things are silly, it’s about not understanding how the tech works.
For example, message app is a mix of the good old SMS and WhatsApp, when you’re talking with some green bubble it means you’re using SMS from your phone carrier instead of sending messages over the internet, it’s natural that the ability to do fancier things decrease when you’re sending an SMS.
SMS is from the 80s, it's a standard just liked Mini USB. Like USBC is the standard for years so too has SMS been replaced with RCS. As mentioned they intentionally give Apple users less, and inturn make it worse for all. Oddly people pay a premium for this treatment
I have a pair of Bose earbuds. My wife borrowed them and paired them with her iphone. It nearly made the headphones unusable for myself after she returned them. Weird software glitches and annoying notifications, some of which remained after unpairing with her phone and pairing again with mine. Eventually sorted things out, but it was way more difficult than it should have been. I have no evidence other than this anecdotal story, but I suspect apple intentionally messed things up. That or they wrote clunky software and I think either way it's pretty bad news.
Maybe user error? I used AirPods with a galaxy note 8 when it came out and they worked just fine. So they definitely didn’t lock it down and make it unusable intentionally.
@@notathoosie you did not do the same thing as the OP you did the opposite. His post is about iPhone screwing up non-iPhone earbuds, yours is about Android not screwing up Apple earbuds.
this is headphone or user error. apple isn't hacking your headphones to suck. lol they may have stayed paired if they were not deleted from the iPhones bluetooth directory.
Stay skeptical. This sounds like Atlas Shrug
Too late to realise!
complete bullshit lawsuit.
We found an L-Phone user. 😂
Wow. The government is selective in their outrage. Why don’t they sue companies that are gouging consumers everyday, like oil companies for example. But, we know why. Government has their hands in it.