Interesting review and comparison. However, you can't put add-ons to fit 4 total bikes with a single base 1Up. You can only add 2 add-ons to any base. So technically, your single can only be expanded to a 3-bike setup.
Really terrific review. I like your candidness about + & - of each rack. The fact you’re not getting money from the review is refreshing & super important. I don’t trust many reviews for that reason. Thanks! I need better access to the rear hatch than either rack gives so I was looking at Rockmounts Swing Away but it’s heavy. What do you think of the 1Up RakAttach ... any opinion?
Great vid. Thanks. I’m getting ready to buy a new car, a Subaru Forrester Wilderness and I want to get a new rack and it’s between these two. I’m still not sure. Lol.
I am impressed by the way the 1UP USA rack folds up for storage. The Kuat racks take up so much room and are heavy. You may have sold me today despite 1Up's Web site being quite poor.
Excellent video Tommy! Lots of good details! I also believe it is beneficial to be able to convert to a 1 bike only rack. It saves weight for most of the time and to your point, it allows better trunk access (although the KUAT bike stand is convenient for some frequent users). Regarding the excess hitch clearance/sloppy fit, users with the racks you mention may be able to find a solution if they search the web for "silent hitch" (they can add a fastener plate to the inside of the hitch) to remove slop. Everyone should understand and often overlooks what will happen if a bike tire has an AIR LEAK because the rack adjustment does in part rely on tire pressure. It's not uncommon to return to the trailhead and have an undetected slow air leak... in some situations it could mean the bike may fall out down the road. I recommend testing this scenario to be sure you are not affected. If the rack has or the user adds a redundant velcro strap for this potential issue the outcome will be fine.
Great points! That actually happened to me once driving up to Snow Summit, I had a slow leak in my front tire and didn't know and when the road got winding I heard a bang and my bars hit my hatch, I was lucky it didn't fall the other way on to the road.
I have an ebike that weighs 55.5lbs with battery. If I take off the battery, I can save about 7 lbs. I’m looking to buy a car rack probably either the 1UP or Kuat. I realize for 1 or 2 heavy bikes, first I have to install a Hitch. What do you recommend as for the hitch, for the now and future needs. Thanks.
When I was shopping for a hitch mounted bike rack I considered the 1UP USA and the Kuat NV. I ultimately decided on the 1UP USA rack mainly because 99% of the time I'm only carrying 1 bike so just like you I got the 1-bike rack with a 1-bike add-on attachment. Also I like the more compact footprint of the 1UP rack. I think the Kuat just looks too busy. BTW, with the Kuat is the repair rack attachment scraping on the ground at the 17:50 mark when you have the rack tilted down to gain access to the hatch?
Yeah I'm so happy I went with the 1Up now that I've had it for a few months I like it so much more. No the rack doesn't touch the ground when you tilt it down at all.
Really informative, thoughtful, and thorough review. You actually provided the information that matters and that I wanted to know... crazy that I’m not used to that with reviews. Only thing missing were the models, but that was easy enough for me to find out. Thanks for taking the time to help is out, bro! 🤘🏽
I've owned both and agree that they are both great racks. Rocky Mount is also really good and typically lower priced. Some personal preference, but I like the lower profile of the 1Up with my car and I use it as a single bike rack most of the time. Thanks for the vid, always enjoy your content! Can't wait to hit you guys up for a ride next time I'm in SoCa (Mission Viejo). You guys will kill me, but it'll be fun! Peace
Hi Tommy. Just a question. Does it make a difference if you use a 1.25" receiver mount over a 2"? I saw that in your acura you have a 1.25". Just want to know if it wobbles or the fit would not be as snug as a 2". I am still thinking of which 1 up rack I would be picking a 1.25 or 2. Thanks!
Very informative review. Bought the one up rack. I think its lower depth and ability to use 1 bike is perfect for my need. I liked the lock mechanism that is scratch free and being metal, should last longer than plastic
I am considering buying the 1Up rack for my bikes and wondering if you've had any long term issues with locking mechanism on the rails starting to not hold or grip due the teeth wearing down?
Good review dude... I drive a Volvo XC60 and have a North Shore 4 bike rack which even folded down blocks the trunk and it sticks out far so my wife hates it so I take it on and off every ride... the 1UP with 1 bike would be perfect as probably 80% of the time it's just me and my bike and could add the second when needed. I don't need the NS rack for shuttling very much anymore.
Yeah my buddy has the North Shore rack, it's badass and so useful when we shuttle but he also takes it on and off because it's so bulky. Having the option to run to 1Up as a single rack is so useful
You can buy an ez pull from 1Up and it will fix the problem. The new Equip D rack from 1Up has the ez pull built in. I made a video on that rack recently
To make it easier for you you will need an EZ pull handle for the two bike set up but if you plan to use 4 bikes a 4 place EZ handle would be recommended but because 1Up will sell you the complete EZ pull handle & parts list you may wanna give some thought as to which handle length you want for your rack.
Thanks for the video. Selling my Kuat because it doesn't fit my mountain bike. I originally planned to buy another Kuat. Your video may have changed my mind.
It won't with my bikes, I tried it. It may work with different bike frames but I don't see how possible because it was significantly short and I ride size med frames
Great vid, ty for taking the time to do this. These were the 2 racks I have been eyeing up... As far as security goes, it cool that the Kuat has a built in cable lock, BUT, cable locks of Kuats size are quite possibly the easist to "bypass" in the world of bike thieves. The ability to addon, (via bolt-on or welding) a security U-ring etc to the 1Up's aluminum frame, so you can utilize a X-LARGE cable or alloy U-lock, is much more of a benefit than meets the eye. Once you have had a bike stolen from you (or two) you start to take into consideration CUSTOM security features, or the ability to fabricate them yourself... 1Up is the clear winner here IMHO...
Funny thing is the cable lock and bike stand was the main reason why I chose the Kuat in the first place but after using it I completely agree with you. I just posted a video 2 weeks ago on the locks that are offered with 1up which I think is more secure
Thanks a lot for doing this review. With 2 eBikes I'm deciding between the 1Up Super Duty and the Kuat NV 2.0 Base (don't need the bike rack). Both look excellent, so don't think I can go wrong with either of them. Now I just need to see if the Super Duty has a locking hitch pin (after seeing how the non-locking hitches can be pulled out, that's a major selling point...)
@@TommyHuynh Just yesterday I was at the bike shop and the sales guy told me about his Kuat, loves it, so it's scary I just found this review, I wasn't even looking! Great review, very fair pros and cons on both. Thanks!
Hi Tommy, thanks for posting this great comparison video. I have been researching racks for electric bikes to death, and these two brands are my finalists. You effectively demonstrated some features that the manufacturer's websites did not.
Good video, but a couple of things about the 1-up (I have had one for probably 8 years now or so). The rack you have is only recommended for up to 3 bikes. You can clearly put the 4 trays on there, but 1up recommends a max of 3. In order to do 4, you need to buy the "Heavy Duty" which only comes in a 2" receiver model and has 2 racks permanently installed. (So you don't get that single use, which I love as well). Secondly I would recommend putting and leaving those bolts in the single rack. I just leave mine in and have them tightened all the way down, when not in use. That way when you go to use the second rack you just back those bolts out. Also I find it MUCH easier to install the second rack with the rack in the "up" position. Lastly for security I just use a cable lock. I typically run it through the tabs on my hitch, through the bikes so with one cable you secure the rack to the hitch and bikes to the rack. You probably have the 2 most coveted racks for MTB, good comparison. I vote 1up !
Thanks for correcting me, I didn't realize that it was 3 bikes max for the 1 1/4" rack. Yes I actually found out that it's easier to take on and off in the up position. I actually always used a 2nd cable to lock my bike (through the frame) with my Kuat so that's what I will do with the 1Up.
I did mine by accident...I gave it a good pull while pulling it out to lock my bike one time, and it bottomed out at the end of the pull and it came right out! Looks like some kind of cable stop glued/crimped on to the end of the cable on the inside.
It sounds like the Kuat 2.0 is what you really want. You can pivot it out of the way and you can now get a single bike holder and then an add on for a second bike. But I still like the 1up for how it locks your bike in. They just need to add a security feature for your bikes and if they throw in a pivot aspect they would be top dog hands down.
Actually 1Up does have an add on for the pivot to make it easier to pivot when you have 3 bikes on it. Now that Ive had the 1Up for almost a year now I definitely like it more than the Kuat
Yeah I definitely like the 1up more, especially now that I've had it for a few weeks and used to every thing. The red levers are to open and close the clamps that hold the wheels down
Thanks! I appreciate your video. This appears to be the NV 1.0. There are differences on the 2.0.- might want to update the title to NV v1 or original.
@@TommyHuynh I just bought a NV 1.0. Love it but as you mentioned I need to buy a dropper post to keep the handle bars and seats from rubbing when carrying more than one bike. Love it, thanks again.
@@TommyHuynh I am sure you are correct... it just didn't seem essential. I am in TX (DFW) riding relatively flat trails. My bike is full carbon XC so very light and I thought the dropper would just add weight but as more and more of my friends now have them and rave about them I am planning to buy one soon. Thx again!
@@jasontoxley yes it will add weight but for the convenience it's worth it. Being able to drop your seat right before a DH section and raise it before a climbing section will change the way you ride and I'm sure make you faster
It's definitely preference, I came from the Kuat and at first there were things that I liked more on the Kuat but now that i've had it for a few months I definitely like the 1Up better. But they are both the best racks.
One of the advantages of the 1UP rack that you didn't mention is the ability to adjust the bikes in the rack to avoid handle bars hitting when you have 3 or 4 bikes loaded.
Funny you say that, I just recorded my 6month review of the 1up rack last week. I plan to finish the edit and post on Wednesday. There is a few things I missed when I first go it.
I just got this rack a couple of weeks ago and I LOVE this thing. It's not cheap, but worth every penny if you're someone that uses your bike rack a lot. This baby is STOUT. With other racks it always made me nervous to see the bike(s) rocking and swaying in the rearview, this rack is by far the most stable I've used. Because of the way it folds up so compactly and the relatively light weight it is easy to remove/install. Also because of it's compact size when folded it is easy to store, and when folded up on the vehicle it's tucked in so tight you don't mind it being there at all. Every other rack I can think of is just plain ugly on the back of your vehicle, loaded or unloaded. With the 1up I catch myself turning back to admire it as I'm walking away. I just ordered the license plate holder to finish it off. I'd highly recommend this to any serious user, it's definitely worth the investment.
@@TommyHuynh Thanks man. I have the thule T2 Pro which wont clear the rear bumper opening unless I hack the saftey pin off. The 1up seems to be the way to go. Nice bike by the way!
My restaurant is called Monarch 9 Cafe located in Yorba Linda, it's authentic Vietnamese food, all the dishes are handcrafted the way my family has been cooking for generations.
@@TommyHuynh I literally got food from your restaurant three days ago for the first time, and I just happened to come across this video today since I'm in the market for a rack. What are the odds? Anyways, your food was awesome, so I'll definitely be back. Re: the racks, have you ever tried the Thule Pro XT?
@@thekimfam49 wow that's awesome 🤘 glad you liked the food. No I have not had the Thule but I have a few friends with Thule (not sure exact model) and all of them like the 1up rack more. 1Up has no plastic pieces and it will last a lifetime.
FYI - You can raise or lower the angle of the front wheel cradle on the Kuat to avoid needing to drop your seat. It's a matter of loosening and tightening an allen wrench... Relying only on the tension from the ball means a thief can run a tow strap around the 1UP and just pull it straight out of your hitch with their vehicle, and then take a cut-off wheel to that blocking lock thing at their leisure. I wouldn't run it without some extra security, any more than I would rely on my Kuat's cables to "secure" my ride...
Tommy, thanks for the review. BTW the trails you and your crew rides, rack scratching the folk is probably the least of your worries...lol. I worry more about dislocating fingers, broken ribs.. Great video.
Thanks for the review. I just purchased the same RDX A-Spec and have the same 2” Kuat as well. Tried the hitch adapter but too much unnecessary tongue weight. Just purchased the 1UP thanks to your review. 👍🙂
LOL! Yeah, maybe if Popeye came along after eating his spinach and cranked that down for him? I doubt there is any biker who would have the hand power to accomplish that on accident. It would literally have to be intentional.
@@RobertBaiko This is clearly not the same type of clamping arm that a regular stand has, though. You can only turn that top bar to close the clamp. Again, it's going to take some obvious cranking on that bar to get it over tightened to the point of cracking frame, even carbon. It's going to be pretty deliberate and obvious. Where as a regular work stand has a lever and the clamp can be set too tight when that lever is locked down, which can be a bit more accidental and less obvious.
@@MotoAtheist I don't think that you are getting it at all. There is the clamp force first on the top tube, then there is the ridiculous moment when touching the front or rear of the bike at the clamping jaws. There is a reason they don't do it.
Wow! Impressed. Thanks Tommy. Appreciated. Great comparison Video. Do you know anything about the Thule T2 Pro XT 2 Rack?? I have the old old version. It’s a good rack, but want new It’s beat up. After watching your Video, I think I’ll go with the 1 Up also, although the Kuat just looks sic! 👍. The bike stand thing is cool, but the lighter weight, single rack thing and simplicity makes sense as you noted. Just curious about the Thule. Either way, GREAT JOB! You got instruction skills 👊😉
For the 1up they sell a super duty bar for your unit that turns your unit into a super duty rack for only $17 bucks. The bar is in the replacement parts section on their website. Not sure why they don’t advertise it.
I wish every product comparison video is made like this. Great information for me to make a decision between 1Up and Kuat. Thanks and keep em coming. Appreciate it a lot.
I will never buy a bike rack that does not have a locking bolt through the hitch. And hence, you reminded me why I choose KUAT. I pull camping trailers, boat trailers, and have a hitch mounted hanging bike rack (which I only use with kid's bikes). With all these hitch attachments, I can take a quick look and see the bolt, with a clip though it, and the lock on the end. Easy visual check and decent security. By the way, for security I use Peweg/Austrian security chains. My Commencal is never without them (even beside my house as my bikes are now), except when I am riding. Thank you for this excellent comparison and reminder why I will never buy 1UP USA.
@@TommyHuynh 1up seems like the best one on the market. My Kuat is not very stable on the road, although it's never really given me too much trouble in the last 4 years (i've had 2).
@@TommyHuynh Yeah I've tightened and loosened it a bunch. It's not unstable like I think it will fall off or damage the bikes, but the 1up is just more stable. You definitely picked the right bike rack
Awesome review! Thanks for sharing your insights. You didn’t mention price, but everything else was great. I’m going to get the 1up thanks to your video :)
Thanks brotha 🤘 I don't like to list price because it will change over time, prices have changed since making this video, you can find deals online and 1Up also has a new rack
Tommy for security with the one up they also have lock kits that go through the holes on the arms that hold the wheel down. I use one for the front and rear wheels. I guess technically someone could steal the frame but it’s going to slow them down a lot trying to mess with the rear derailleur and chain while trying to get it out of the rack and technically they could always just cut the cable on racks with integrated cables (cables can be cut extremely easily) so in my view it’s just as secure and like all security it’s a deterrent not a preventative. They also sell a bolt that a lock can be threaded onto for the secondary rack. Good news is you can have them all be keyed the same, bad news is you have to order them keyed at the same time however your local lock smith can re key them so you can just take your single you have now and re key it to match the added locks if you choose to do so.
Yes thanks bro I actually have the security lock for the add on rack as well. And yes it's the same key as the main lock, I just realized I forgot to talk about it in my video. You are absolutely right locks and cables just slow thieves down but if they really want it they can get it.
I just got my 1up bike rack after watching your video. Id tried tilting my it back with bike on so that I can open my trunk but I am having a hard time doing. It feels like the black level is jammed. Have you experienced that? Thanks!
Yes I have, the black lever has a spring on both sides, you have to pull it from the center so it pulls the bar evenly, if one side is pulled higher than the lower end will get jammed in the groove. If it The bar won't even pull back than it's because the round cap at the bottom is twisted closed so you need to twist it counter clockwise in order to pull the bar.
Hey man nice video. Question: I’m highly considering the rdx aspec. Is that the factory Acura hitch or aftermarket? When I go to Acura’s page it won’t let me build an aspec with the factory hitch. Wondering if that’s just a glitch.
Tommy Huynh t_wrex_mtb did you install the hitch yourself or paid someone to do it? If DIY.... how easy/hard is it? I just bought ‘20 A-SPEC and considering 1up as my next rack.
This is 1 1/4 hitch. The super duty is only 2". I didn't want the black because I seen a few older ones that looked a little faded but I have a few friends with the raw rack that's 10 years old and still looks new
Nice comparison Tommy! I really love my 1up rack and leave the single rack on my Sequoia full time since it's tucked away and doesn't block my tailgate or backup camera like you mentioned. One thing I found to make it easier when adding on the 2nd or more trays is to leave the rack tucked up and install the bolts halfway on first, then you can drop the add on tray right on top because the bolt holes on the add on tray have a larger opening on one side it will slide on past the bolt head and then you shift the add on tray over to lock it in and tighten the bolts up.
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*Really great **Latest.Bike** trunk mount rack! Works well with my Honda civic & the price is affordable. Would recommend ✔*
With the two racks, use it as a shelf to stage your purchases when loading.
Interesting review and comparison. However, you can't put add-ons to fit 4 total bikes with a single base 1Up. You can only add 2 add-ons to any base. So technically, your single can only be expanded to a 3-bike setup.
I just came across this review as I start looking for a new 2-bike rack for my Outback and this was very helpful. Thanks!
I'm glad you found it helpful
Thanks. Bought the Kuat NV 2.0
Really terrific review. I like your candidness about + & - of each rack. The fact you’re not getting money from the review is refreshing & super important. I don’t trust many reviews for that reason. Thanks! I need better access to the rear hatch than either rack gives so I was looking at Rockmounts Swing Away but it’s heavy. What do you think of the 1Up RakAttach ... any opinion?
I have never used the rakattch so I can't comment on it but the 1up rack is amazing now that I've had it over a year. No regrets what so ever
My personal opinion would be to have some kind of brake light connect built into the rack like on a trailer and have tail lights on them for safety.
Great vid. Thanks. I’m getting ready to buy a new car, a Subaru Forrester Wilderness and I want to get a new rack and it’s between these two. I’m still not sure. Lol.
You can't go wrong with either but I say long term the 1Up is a better rack' no plastic pieces that get jacked from sun over time
I am impressed by the way the 1UP USA rack folds up for storage. The Kuat racks take up so much room and are heavy. You may have sold me today despite 1Up's Web site being quite poor.
Great video and thanks for sharing. Was looking at both and I am sold on the 1up because of your video as the 1up fits my needs better.
Awesome I'm glad you liked it
Excellent video Tommy! Lots of good details! I also believe it is beneficial to be able to convert to a 1 bike only rack. It saves weight for most of the time and to your point, it allows better trunk access (although the KUAT bike stand is convenient for some frequent users). Regarding the excess hitch clearance/sloppy fit, users with the racks you mention may be able to find a solution if they search the web for "silent hitch" (they can add a fastener plate to the inside of the hitch) to remove slop. Everyone should understand and often overlooks what will happen if a bike tire has an AIR LEAK because the rack adjustment does in part rely on tire pressure. It's not uncommon to return to the trailhead and have an undetected slow air leak... in some situations it could mean the bike may fall out down the road. I recommend testing this scenario to be sure you are not affected. If the rack has or the user adds a redundant velcro strap for this potential issue the outcome will be fine.
Great points! That actually happened to me once driving up to Snow Summit, I had a slow leak in my front tire and didn't know and when the road got winding I heard a bang and my bars hit my hatch, I was lucky it didn't fall the other way on to the road.
I have an ebike that weighs 55.5lbs with battery. If I take off the battery, I can save about 7 lbs. I’m looking to buy a car rack probably either the 1UP or Kuat. I realize for 1 or 2 heavy bikes, first I have to install a Hitch. What do you recommend as for the hitch, for the now and future needs. Thanks.
I would definitely recommend a 2" hitch if you have a 55 pound ebike
When I was shopping for a hitch mounted bike rack I considered the 1UP USA and the Kuat NV. I ultimately decided on the 1UP USA rack mainly because 99% of the time I'm only carrying 1 bike so just like you I got the 1-bike rack with a 1-bike add-on attachment. Also I like the more compact footprint of the 1UP rack. I think the Kuat just looks too busy. BTW, with the Kuat is the repair rack attachment scraping on the ground at the 17:50 mark when you have the rack tilted down to gain access to the hatch?
Yeah I'm so happy I went with the 1Up now that I've had it for a few months I like it so much more. No the rack doesn't touch the ground when you tilt it down at all.
Really informative, thoughtful, and thorough review. You actually provided the information that matters and that I wanted to know... crazy that I’m not used to that with reviews. Only thing missing were the models, but that was easy enough for me to find out. Thanks for taking the time to help is out, bro! 🤘🏽
Thank you 🤘 I'm glad you found it helpful
Damn Asians luv waking up early 😂😂. Well I guess I know which bike rack imma buy. Thx!
The early bird gets the worm. 🤘
Hi Tommy - do you have a suggestion for 2 Ebikes ( 65lb and 45 lb) with fenders? One is a fat bike. Thanks Terry
Sorry for the late reply I just saw your comment. 1Up makes a new rack called the Equip D, it is specifically made to fit fat bikes.
I've owned both and agree that they are both great racks. Rocky Mount is also really good and typically lower priced. Some personal preference, but I like the lower profile of the 1Up with my car and I use it as a single bike rack most of the time.
Thanks for the vid, always enjoy your content! Can't wait to hit you guys up for a ride next time I'm in SoCa (Mission Viejo). You guys will kill me, but it'll be fun! Peace
Yeah I love the low profile of the 1Up
Hi Tommy. Just a question. Does it make a difference if you use a 1.25" receiver mount over a 2"? I saw that in your acura you have a 1.25". Just want to know if it wobbles or the fit would not be as snug as a 2". I am still thinking of which 1 up rack I would be picking a 1.25 or 2. Thanks!
If your car has 1.25" hitch you buy the 1.25 rack if it's 2" you buy the 2"
Very informative review. Bought the one up rack. I think its lower depth and ability to use 1 bike is perfect for my need. I liked the lock mechanism that is scratch free and being metal, should last longer than plastic
Yes definitely, I'm so happy I got the One Up rack. I really liked the Kuat but I love my One Up just a tad more.
I am considering buying the 1Up rack for my bikes and wondering if you've had any long term issues with locking mechanism on the rails starting to not hold or grip due the teeth wearing down?
Good review dude... I drive a Volvo XC60 and have a North Shore 4 bike rack which even folded down blocks the trunk and it sticks out far so my wife hates it so I take it on and off every ride... the 1UP with 1 bike would be perfect as probably 80% of the time it's just me and my bike and could add the second when needed. I don't need the NS rack for shuttling very much anymore.
Yeah my buddy has the North Shore rack, it's badass and so useful when we shuttle but he also takes it on and off because it's so bulky. Having the option to run to 1Up as a single rack is so useful
OK, I already can see that pulling the leaver to lift down the rack is super inconvenient in 1UP.
You can buy an ez pull from 1Up and it will fix the problem. The new Equip D rack from 1Up has the ez pull built in. I made a video on that rack recently
Bro if you don't going to use your Kuat, give it to me i got mine stole and now i have to put my bike on my truck bed... please.
To make it easier for you you will need an EZ pull handle for the two bike set up but if you plan to use 4 bikes a 4 place EZ handle would be recommended but because 1Up will sell you the complete EZ pull handle & parts list you may wanna give
some thought as to which handle length you want for
your rack.
Thanks for the video. Selling my Kuat because it doesn't fit my mountain bike. I originally planned to buy another Kuat. Your video may have changed my mind.
This is a great rack you won't be disappointed 🤘
To lock the frames go through the inside of the bikes chain stays. It should reach that way.
It won't with my bikes, I tried it. It may work with different bike frames but I don't see how possible because it was significantly short and I ride size med frames
Cool review 😎👍👍👍👍👍👍😁😁
Great vid, ty for taking the time to do this. These were the 2 racks I have been eyeing up... As far as security goes, it cool that the Kuat has a built in cable lock, BUT, cable locks of Kuats size are quite possibly the easist to "bypass" in the world of bike thieves. The ability to addon, (via bolt-on or welding) a security U-ring etc to the 1Up's aluminum frame, so you can utilize a X-LARGE cable or alloy U-lock, is much more of a benefit than meets the eye. Once you have had a bike stolen from you (or two) you start to take into consideration CUSTOM security features, or the ability to fabricate them yourself... 1Up is the clear winner here IMHO...
Funny thing is the cable lock and bike stand was the main reason why I chose the Kuat in the first place but after using it I completely agree with you. I just posted a video 2 weeks ago on the locks that are offered with 1up which I think is more secure
Thanks a lot for doing this review. With 2 eBikes I'm deciding between the 1Up Super Duty and the Kuat NV 2.0 Base (don't need the bike rack). Both look excellent, so don't think I can go wrong with either of them. Now I just need to see if the Super Duty has a locking hitch pin (after seeing how the non-locking hitches can be pulled out, that's a major selling point...)
I'm glad you found the review helpful 🤘
@@TommyHuynh Just yesterday I was at the bike shop and the sales guy told me about his Kuat, loves it, so it's scary I just found this review, I wasn't even looking! Great review, very fair pros and cons on both. Thanks!
I like how you can lock the main rack to the car. How do you keep people from stealing the add on racks.
Oh my bad, I forgot to video that part. I also have the same security lock which goes on the end of the right bolt. 1Up aso sells for $19
Hi Tommy, thanks for posting this great comparison video. I have been researching racks for electric bikes to death, and these two brands are my finalists. You effectively demonstrated some features that the manufacturer's websites did not.
When you add the 2inch adapter, does the rack wiggle and bounce when your driving with both bikes on the rack?
No with the 2" adapter 3 bikes is rock solid 4 rack is a little wiggling.
Good stuff Tommy. How long of a wheelbase can the 1up rack handle?
Thanks brotha, the 1Up can hold bikes up to 54" wheel base
Can you comment on whether any parts of your bikes are touching each other or is the Kuat touching any part of your bikes other than wheels ie forks
Depending on sizes of the bikes the bars and seat should not touch as long as you drop the seat.
Good video, but a couple of things about the 1-up (I have had one for probably 8 years now or so). The rack you have is only recommended for up to 3 bikes. You can clearly put the 4 trays on there, but 1up recommends a max of 3. In order to do 4, you need to buy the "Heavy Duty" which only comes in a 2" receiver model and has 2 racks permanently installed. (So you don't get that single use, which I love as well). Secondly I would recommend putting and leaving those bolts in the single rack. I just leave mine in and have them tightened all the way down, when not in use. That way when you go to use the second rack you just back those bolts out. Also I find it MUCH easier to install the second rack with the rack in the "up" position. Lastly for security I just use a cable lock. I typically run it through the tabs on my hitch, through the bikes so with one cable you secure the rack to the hitch and bikes to the rack. You probably have the 2 most coveted racks for MTB, good comparison. I vote 1up !
Thanks for correcting me, I didn't realize that it was 3 bikes max for the 1 1/4" rack. Yes I actually found out that it's easier to take on and off in the up position. I actually always used a 2nd cable to lock my bike (through the frame) with my Kuat so that's what I will do with the 1Up.
Yeah, don't rely on the Kuat built-in lock cable. You can just grab it and give it a good yank and pull it right out of the rack.
@@FletchyDog wow that's horrible if that's true
I did mine by accident...I gave it a good pull while pulling it out to lock my bike one time, and it bottomed out at the end of the pull and it came right out! Looks like some kind of cable stop glued/crimped on to the end of the cable on the inside.
@@FletchyDog wow that's horrible I am sure you can contact Kuat and make them warranty that
Would you have an idea of the maximum tire width that the 1UP can take?
Do you think it would take most plus bike tires with 3.0 inch sizing?
It's actually on their website. I know they do make add on adjusters to fit fat tires if 3.0 is too wide
can you use 1up for road bikes without buying that accessory?
I think so but I'm not 100% sure
Lol. Drives expensive cars, rides cheapo bikes. Priorities.
It sounds like the Kuat 2.0 is what you really want. You can pivot it out of the way and you can now get a single bike holder and then an add on for a second bike. But I still like the 1up for how it locks your bike in. They just need to add a security feature for your bikes and if they throw in a pivot aspect they would be top dog hands down.
Actually 1Up does have an add on for the pivot to make it easier to pivot when you have 3 bikes on it. Now that Ive had the 1Up for almost a year now I definitely like it more than the Kuat
1up seems to be the winner. Are the red levers to unlock the clamping thing? Seems like it.
Yeah I definitely like the 1up more, especially now that I've had it for a few weeks and used to every thing. The red levers are to open and close the clamps that hold the wheels down
@@TommyHuynh thx, that's what I thought.
@@mtbboy1993 you're welcome
solid real world review, dumb question of the day, automatic car washes? Do they require/ask you to remove the 1up?
That depends on the car wash. I have 1 that they allow it but most won't let any type of racks attached to the car.
If you are running the 1up 1+1, will their easy release tilt adapter work?
Thanks! I appreciate your video. This appears to be the NV 1.0. There are differences on the 2.0.- might want to update the title to NV v1 or original.
Yes you're right, I didn't realize I had the original. Thank you
@@TommyHuynh I just bought a NV 1.0. Love it but as you mentioned I need to buy a dropper post to keep the handle bars and seats from rubbing when carrying more than one bike. Love it, thanks again.
@@jasontoxley you definitely need a dropper post, probably the single best upgrade you can do to a bike
@@TommyHuynh I am sure you are correct... it just didn't seem essential. I am in TX (DFW) riding relatively flat trails. My bike is full carbon XC so very light and I thought the dropper would just add weight but as more and more of my friends now have them and rave about them I am planning to buy one soon. Thx again!
@@jasontoxley yes it will add weight but for the convenience it's worth it. Being able to drop your seat right before a DH section and raise it before a climbing section will change the way you ride and I'm sure make you faster
I’ve had both. I prefer the Kuat. Great review
It's definitely preference, I came from the Kuat and at first there were things that I liked more on the Kuat but now that i've had it for a few months I definitely like the 1Up better. But they are both the best racks.
What did you prefer about the Kuat?
One of the advantages of the 1UP rack that you didn't mention is the ability to adjust the bikes in the rack to avoid handle bars hitting when you have 3 or 4 bikes loaded.
Funny you say that, I just recorded my 6month review of the 1up rack last week. I plan to finish the edit and post on Wednesday. There is a few things I missed when I first go it.
Super helpful video. Thank you!
Where did you get the lock to block the wrench access?
Imagine if this was a girl talking about her new rack 😆
Hey man where did you buy that lock for the rack?
Thanks for posting. Great video.
Thanks brotha 🤘
I just got this rack a couple of weeks ago and I LOVE this thing. It's not cheap, but worth every penny if you're someone that uses your bike rack a lot. This baby is STOUT. With other racks it always made me nervous to see the bike(s) rocking and swaying in the rearview, this rack is by far the most stable I've used. Because of the way it folds up so compactly and the relatively light weight it is easy to remove/install. Also because of it's compact size when folded it is easy to store, and when folded up on the vehicle it's tucked in so tight you don't mind it being there at all. Every other rack I can think of is just plain ugly on the back of your vehicle, loaded or unloaded. With the 1up I catch myself turning back to admire it as I'm walking away. I just ordered the license plate holder to finish it off. I'd highly recommend this to any serious user, it's definitely worth the investment.
The 1up any issues with scratching tia sr
Thanks man. I have an STI and a hidden trailer hitch hoping the 1up will work
Yeah for sure it would work my buddy has the same hitch and he used to have a STI
@@TommyHuynh Thanks man. I have the thule T2 Pro which wont clear the rear bumper opening unless I hack the saftey pin off. The 1up seems to be the way to go. Nice bike by the way!
@@jfnurod thanks brotha 🤘
Tell me about your restaurant. Great vid btw. You sold me on the 1UP.
My restaurant is called Monarch 9 Cafe located in Yorba Linda, it's authentic Vietnamese food, all the dishes are handcrafted the way my family has been cooking for generations.
@@TommyHuynh I literally got food from your restaurant three days ago for the first time, and I just happened to come across this video today since I'm in the market for a rack. What are the odds? Anyways, your food was awesome, so I'll definitely be back. Re: the racks, have you ever tried the Thule Pro XT?
@@thekimfam49 wow that's awesome 🤘 glad you liked the food. No I have not had the Thule but I have a few friends with Thule (not sure exact model) and all of them like the 1up rack more. 1Up has no plastic pieces and it will last a lifetime.
Can you lock the add on to the rack?
FYI - You can raise or lower the angle of the front wheel cradle on the Kuat to avoid needing to drop your seat. It's a matter of loosening and tightening an allen wrench...
Relying only on the tension from the ball means a thief can run a tow strap around the 1UP and just pull it straight out of your hitch with their vehicle, and then take a cut-off wheel to that blocking lock thing at their leisure. I wouldn't run it without some extra security, any more than I would rely on my Kuat's cables to "secure" my ride...
Tommy, thanks for the review. BTW the trails you and your crew rides, rack scratching the folk is probably the least of your worries...lol. I worry more about dislocating fingers, broken ribs.. Great video.
This was an awesome video!! ….You got right to the point and highlighted pros/cons with minimum words
Thank You Nice bikes.
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Your DH bikes is the sickest bike I've seen in a long time 😯
Thanks brotha 🤘
Thanks for the review. I just purchased the same RDX A-Spec and have the same 2” Kuat as well. Tried the hitch adapter but too much unnecessary tongue weight. Just purchased the 1UP thanks to your review. 👍🙂
Dope intro!
Thanks brotha 🤘
Great video bro bro! Thank you✅
Glad your found it helpful 🤘
Hey FYI careful using that work stand on your top tube. You can crush the tube and ruin the frame. Its better to use on seat tube.
LOL! Yeah, maybe if Popeye came along after eating his spinach and cranked that down for him? I doubt there is any biker who would have the hand power to accomplish that on accident. It would literally have to be intentional.
@@MotoAtheist Its easy to crack a carbon headtube. Talk to any bikeshop.
@@RobertBaiko This is clearly not the same type of clamping arm that a regular stand has, though. You can only turn that top bar to close the clamp. Again, it's going to take some obvious cranking on that bar to get it over tightened to the point of cracking frame, even carbon. It's going to be pretty deliberate and obvious. Where as a regular work stand has a lever and the clamp can be set too tight when that lever is locked down, which can be a bit more accidental and less obvious.
@@MotoAtheist I don't think that you are getting it at all. There is the clamp force first on the top tube, then there is the ridiculous moment when touching the front or rear of the bike at the clamping jaws.
There is a reason they don't do it.
@@RobertBaiko Do a search for clamping carbon frames and you'll see that many people have been doing it for years. Just takes some common sense.
Are you selling your old rack?
Yes I am I haven't listed yet but I plan to sell for $350
Tommy Huynh t_wrex_mtb sold it yet? If not I am buying!!
nice thanks
You're welcome 🤘
Wow! Impressed. Thanks Tommy. Appreciated. Great comparison Video. Do you know anything about the Thule T2 Pro XT 2 Rack?? I have the old old version. It’s a good rack, but want new It’s beat up. After watching your Video, I think I’ll go with the 1 Up also, although the Kuat just looks sic! 👍. The bike stand thing is cool, but the lighter weight, single rack thing and simplicity makes sense as you noted. Just curious about the Thule. Either way, GREAT JOB! You got instruction skills 👊😉
Thank you, I'm not sure of the exact model but a couple of my friends have a Thule and they both regret not getting the 1Up
cool review video.
Thank you very much 🙏
Nice review!
Thank you
For the 1up they sell a super duty bar for your unit that turns your unit into a super duty rack for only $17 bucks. The bar is in the replacement parts section on their website. Not sure why they don’t advertise it.
Does this increase the weight of bikes that can be carried, and where is it installed? Thanks for pointing this out.
@@tkels5471 Would you be willing to do a follow up video on this if you choose to install?
@@tkels5471 75lbs per bike bar for each bike is needed.
@@honestnewsnet Sounds like 2 are needed for a double carrier? I would but my bikes are only 25 lbs so I think I'm going to pass for now.
@@tkels5471 it’s really just needed for E-bikes.
thank you for all the tips and info.
You're welcome 🤘
Great review. Thanks!
Thank you 🤘
Great presentation, brother!
Thanks Brotha 🤘
I wish every product comparison video is made like this. Great information for me to make a decision between 1Up and Kuat. Thanks and keep em coming. Appreciate it a lot.
Remember to lock blue levers when folding (no bike on it). I forgot onetime, it scraped to the ground and damaged the rack
Oh yeah good point thank you
Nice video, great content. Thanks
I will never buy a bike rack that does not have a locking bolt through the hitch.
And hence, you reminded me why I choose KUAT.
I pull camping trailers, boat trailers, and have a hitch mounted hanging bike rack (which I only use with kid's bikes). With all these hitch attachments, I can take a quick look and see the bolt, with a clip though it, and the lock on the end. Easy visual check and decent security.
By the way, for security I use Peweg/Austrian security chains. My Commencal is never without them (even beside my house as my bikes are now), except when I am riding.
Thank you for this excellent comparison and reminder why I will never buy 1UP USA.
The 1 1/4" 1up rack doesn't have the locking bolt through the hitch but the 2" does. I assume you have a 2" hitch so you will be fine
@@TommyHuynh
Thank you! 1Up is back in the running! ;)>
Dope video bro thank you
You're welcome 🤘
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Appreciate the video! Great comparison! I'm a sucker for the nv lol
I like the Kuat NV (and the Sherpa) but I will never buy one again.
It's a great rack, I never had issues but I prefer the 1Up so I can have access to my trunk
@@TommyHuynh 1up seems like the best one on the market. My Kuat is not very stable on the road, although it's never really given me too much trouble in the last 4 years (i've had 2).
@@felix-ve8jk wow really? Mine was very stable, did you make sure to tighten the ball pin into the hitch?
@@TommyHuynh Yeah I've tightened and loosened it a bunch. It's not unstable like I think it will fall off or damage the bikes, but the 1up is just more stable. You definitely picked the right bike rack
Awesome review! Thanks for sharing your insights. You didn’t mention price, but everything else was great. I’m going to get the 1up thanks to your video :)
Thanks brotha 🤘 I don't like to list price because it will change over time, prices have changed since making this video, you can find deals online and 1Up also has a new rack
Tommy for security with the one up they also have lock kits that go through the holes on the arms that hold the wheel down. I use one for the front and rear wheels. I guess technically someone could steal the frame but it’s going to slow them down a lot trying to mess with the rear derailleur and chain while trying to get it out of the rack and technically they could always just cut the cable on racks with integrated cables (cables can be cut extremely easily) so in my view it’s just as secure and like all security it’s a deterrent not a preventative. They also sell a bolt that a lock can be threaded onto for the secondary rack. Good news is you can have them all be keyed the same, bad news is you have to order them keyed at the same time however your local lock smith can re key them so you can just take your single you have now and re key it to match the added locks if you choose to do so.
Yes thanks bro I actually have the security lock for the add on rack as well. And yes it's the same key as the main lock, I just realized I forgot to talk about it in my video.
You are absolutely right locks and cables just slow thieves down but if they really want it they can get it.
Tommy Huynh cool, yea just get the ones for the wheels and you should be just as safe as any other rack and easy to use too.
I just got my 1up bike rack after watching your video. Id tried tilting my it back with bike on so that I can open my trunk but I am having a hard time doing. It feels like the black level is jammed. Have you experienced that? Thanks!
Yes I have, the black lever has a spring on both sides, you have to pull it from the center so it pulls the bar evenly, if one side is pulled higher than the lower end will get jammed in the groove.
If it The bar won't even pull back than it's because the round cap at the bottom is twisted closed so you need to twist it counter clockwise in order to pull the bar.
@@TommyHuynh awesome thanks for the tip Tommy! Love how easy and convenient it is to use. Thanks for recommending it! 👍😁
@@BengLang84 you're welcome 🤘 I'm glad you like it 👌
U need to try tmac pedals they rule
The way the one up goes into the receiver is completely stupid.
The tension-ball is good to eliminate slop, but missing a positive lock to the receiver (through pin or bolt) is a definite NO for me.
2 month backorder for that rack.
Hahahaha yeah everything mountain bike related is backorder since covid
Does the Acura have any kind of backup collision detection? Does the 1-up interfere with that system?
Yes the Acura has back camera and collision detection. The 1up doesnt block the camera at all but does make the detection sound when I'm in reverse
Hey man nice video. Question: I’m highly considering the rdx aspec. Is that the factory Acura hitch or aftermarket? When I go to Acura’s page it won’t let me build an aspec with the factory hitch. Wondering if that’s just a glitch.
It's a factory hitch, it only comes in 1.25" hitch. I'm not sure why you can't add it online but you can definitely get it from the dealership
Tommy Huynh t_wrex_mtb did you install the hitch yourself or paid someone to do it? If DIY.... how easy/hard is it? I just bought ‘20 A-SPEC and considering 1up as my next rack.
@@ehdeereotutar6843 I added the hitch through the dealership when I bought my car. There was no aftermarket hitch available when I bought mine
Where did u buy the lock/key?
I bought it from 1Up USA
@@TommyHuynhdid it ever concern you that the 1up doesn’t have a thru pin, I believe the kuat does
Excellent review.
Thank you
@@TommyHuynh Ordered one 1/3/20.
@@abnercarrera that's awesome you will love it
Great review. Is this the heavy or super duty? Also, did you consider the black? I also have a white SUV. Seems like black would look a bit better.
This is 1 1/4 hitch. The super duty is only 2". I didn't want the black because I seen a few older ones that looked a little faded but I have a few friends with the raw rack that's 10 years old and still looks new
Tommy Huynh t_wrex_mtb perfect! Exactly what I wanted to know. TY!
@@katzsteel 🤘
Solid comparison! Need to slide the add-on to the side (1:47) so the edges line up.
Yeah that was the first time I put it together, I figured it out the 2nd time. Lol
Thanks for the comparison. I've been looking at both of these racks as top contenders.
That's awesome, I hope my video helped. They are both great racks it just depends on what's more important to you.
Great job Tommy!
Cool rack but I build mine brother.. ✌🏻
That's awesome
Good review I need something for two of my e-bikes that are 65 lb each
1up also makes a Super Duty Rack for heavyweight bikes
genius
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Nice comparison Tommy! I really love my 1up rack and leave the single rack on my Sequoia full time since it's tucked away and doesn't block my tailgate or backup camera like you mentioned. One thing I found to make it easier when adding on the 2nd or more trays is to leave the rack tucked up and install the bolts halfway on first, then you can drop the add on tray right on top because the bolt holes on the add on tray have a larger opening on one side it will slide on past the bolt head and then you shift the add on tray over to lock it in and tighten the bolts up.
Awesome thanks for the tip 🤘