Yeah the trenching bucket excels at smaller stumps like I was digging out but anything 6 inches or more a larger backhoe or mini ex would be the ticket. Keep on tractoring!
This video may have saved me $7500.00 !!! My wife has been after me for not buying a backhoe from day one. She watched this and asked which is cheaper I said stump bucket. She said we need to buy one :)
Read my reply to Mark Bielick's post below. Cheaper yes. But along with that come cheaper results. If you are removing 1" or 2" saplings maybe, anything bigger... forgetaboutit.
This will depend on the size of stumps you have. If you're removing stumps and bushes of similar size as I was, this trenching bucket will work better and faster. Anything bigger you'll either want a bigger tractor a backhoe or rent a mini excavator. Keep on tractoring!
For small stumps those were some tuff ones for sure! I finally got my big maple stump out of the yard with a combination of the stump bucket and backhoe. Enjoyed the comparison!
Hi Jon! Yep, the trenching bucket definitely wins! Now I have something ELSE on my “To Get” list. Thanks for helping me spend my money! LOL. Thanks for sharing!
One application the stump bucket excels at is transplanting small trees. I have a hobby of planting small Oaks/Maples and Hickory trees from seed. When they get about 4-6' tall, I transplant them to various areas on the lot. (Someday, someone will wonder where all the nice trees came from. Just about everything else around the 6 acres is Cottonwood, the worst trees in the world.) The stump bucket does a great job digging up the small trees without destroying the root structure. 4 digs around the root area, and you can lift the entire tree up, and move it to the new location, without ever getting off the tractor. You just have to remember to dig the new hole before uprooting the transplanted tree.
Watching the backhoe move in the sped up video reminds me of how the monsters move in stop motion movies like the old Clash of the Titans. 😂 Kuhl does indeed make some cool stuff.
I have the Artillian bucket. I have had limited success but I cannot get all the way around my target. I also have seeing where I am digging. I did make a good trench for burring a wire.
There is a learning curve and it take some practice. I lift the bucket just high enough so I can see the underside of where the bucket is and then once lined up I curl the bucket up to be in line at about a 45 degree angle. Keep on tractoring!
@@ritterjon I think you would be very interested in the fuel filter mod that Biff's Equipment showed to replace the two factory fuel filters. I'm thinking of doing it. I get fairly cold here in S.W Ontario Canada, more snow than cold, but you in Minnesota, you're farther North my man. Check out the fuel filter mod I think the channel Tractor Tech was the vid Biff's Equipment got the idea from
How's she goin'? The trenching bucket sure does a number on those roots. Being able to move the tractor around and quickly reset you attack angle makes all the difference I think!! Take care!!
I use a 6" bucket for stumps. You get more power in a small area than the 12" for some of those longer roots. I'd have had that stump out with the backhoe in 2-3 minutes.
I totally disagree with your conclusion. I've got both the stump bucket and the BX23s backhoe. The stump bucket does a good job on tiny stumps, but it doesn't have the reach to get to larger stumps. You spend all day digging a large hole to get at the stump.The backhoe with a 4" BExpanded trenching bucket is far faster at removing larger stumps than the stump bucket. It digs twice as deep per stroke as the standard bucket, and the teeth are much sharper. You position your machine once, cut on both sides of the stump, move once, and the last dig pops the stump out. No way the trenching bucket can keep up. Using the standard backhoe bucket is not a good comparison. Stump removal is not what it is designed for. I still like your videos, and you do a great job explaining things to the viewers. It's just this one doesn't make sense to me.
I would have to agree also with Mark. Not a fair test. Had you tried to use the Artillian bucket on the same root you used the backhoe on... it would have taken far longer than 11.5 minutes to remove that same stump. For small stumps, it has it's place I suppose. Although Artillian calls it a trenching bucket, I would not want to use it for trenches either. I speak from experience as I have a John Deere 1025R with 260B backhoe. I think that folks who buy this Artillian bucket based solely on your recommendations and poor test procedures will be sorely disappointed.
Mark - I agree with you, I should do a better job explaining that a larger stump is no match for a trenching bucket. I meant this video to be for people dealing with small tree stumps and bushes. The standard backhoe bucket is best for digging dirt. Thanks for the feedback. Keep on tractoring!
Busman - I disagree, I'm positive it would have taken me far less time with the trenching bucket. The problem was I couldn't cut the roots with the backhoe, I would have cut them much easier with the trenching bucket. Keep on tractoring!
While the trencher definitely is useful and worthy, I did notice the tree chosen for backhoe in timed comparison was a MUCH larger tree! A couple inches more diameter greatly increase the root zone. That said, I like the trencher attachment.
It was larger but I know that with the trenching bucket I still would have had it out faster because I would have been able to use the tractor momentum and power to cut through the roots with the trenching bucket. Keep on tractoring!
Hello Jon, Love the channel!!! So I finalized my purchase of my brand new 2021 BX23S this morning! YEA!!!!! I am very interested in the Artillian fork frame system. Curious of the size you have on yours and what you would recommend for the small sub compact BX23S.
Hey Stephen! This is the fork frame I have. www.artillian.com/product/3000-lb-ssqa-pallet-fork-frame/ It is very strong and lightweight. I have 42 inch forks but I also have a larger L3940 that having the longer forks for makes sense. If I just used it with my BX23S I would go with the 36 inch forks. The Artillian system is great because as you need attachments such as a grapple or trenching bucket you can add Artillian products to the same fork frame. Top notch quality also 👍 Congrats on the new tractor, I'm sure you'll find many uses for it through the years. 😁👍 Keep on tractoring!
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Get yourself a BX Panded root ripper. it will amaze you. Quicker, slower it's all in fun ahem work.
Sold!
Nice info there man
I really need to stop by Artillian and grab one of those trenching buckets!
It is a great tool to have!
Keep on tractoring!
You can make Indiana Jones whips with those roots they are really long cool video ☀️😁👍
I think you actually could. They seem about the right consistency.
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Good vid Jon 👍👍
Thank you Shad! Hope all is well.
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The more I see these stump / trench buckets, the more I think I need one. Great job, Jon!
I think you could use one!
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This was a very good video. Unfortunately most the stumps at my place range from 2 feet to 4 feet in diameter at the stump.
Yeah the trenching bucket excels at smaller stumps like I was digging out but anything 6 inches or more a larger backhoe or mini ex would be the ticket.
Keep on tractoring!
This video may have saved me $7500.00 !!! My wife has been after me for not buying a backhoe from day one. She watched this and asked which is cheaper I said stump bucket. She said we need to buy one :)
Read my reply to Mark Bielick's post below. Cheaper yes. But along with that come cheaper results. If you are removing 1" or 2" saplings maybe, anything bigger... forgetaboutit.
This will depend on the size of stumps you have. If you're removing stumps and bushes of similar size as I was, this trenching bucket will work better and faster. Anything bigger you'll either want a bigger tractor a backhoe or rent a mini excavator.
Keep on tractoring!
Nice Work Jon
Thank you Jason!
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Great backhoe trenching comparison video Sir 🧐👍 You added great points too 👍😊 Have a great week Monsieur le Professeur Cheers 🍻👍
Thank you Dave, hope all is well with you.
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@@ritterjon Everything Is OUTSTANDING MON AMI and the same to you too and keep up the great family team work 😊👍 Cheers🍻
For small stumps those were some tuff ones for sure! I finally got my big maple stump out of the yard with a combination of the stump bucket and backhoe. Enjoyed the comparison!
Thank you Ben! Those small stump really put up a big fight. Those pesky invasive species are terrible.
Keep on tractoring!
This was an excellent video Jon. Good comparison of capabilities.
Thank you sir!
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Hi Jon! Yep, the trenching bucket definitely wins! Now I have something ELSE on my “To Get” list. Thanks for helping me spend my money! LOL. Thanks for sharing!
One application the stump bucket excels at is transplanting small trees. I have a hobby of planting small Oaks/Maples and Hickory trees from seed. When they get about 4-6' tall, I transplant them to various areas on the lot. (Someday, someone will wonder where all the nice trees came from. Just about everything else around the 6 acres is Cottonwood, the worst trees in the world.) The stump bucket does a great job digging up the small trees without destroying the root structure. 4 digs around the root area, and you can lift the entire tree up, and move it to the new location, without ever getting off the tractor. You just have to remember to dig the new hole before uprooting the transplanted tree.
I bet it would work really well for transplanting trees. Almost like a tree spade.
Keep on tractoring
Ahhh its almost backhoe season! Cant wait to put mine on my BX! I dont do many stumps with it but the trenching bucket seems pretty slick!
I think I could operate the backhoe all day. Maybe someday I’ll get a mini excavator.
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@@ritterjon Mini ex are the way to go lol
We have that trenching bucket and cannot wait to use it. Thanks for the tips.
Great video John!
Nice attachment 👍 🎥🏆❤🇺🇸
Watching the backhoe move in the sped up video reminds me of how the monsters move in stop motion movies like the old Clash of the Titans. 😂 Kuhl does indeed make some cool stuff.
Yep, it kinda does! 😂 Hope all is well with you Adam.
Keep on tractoring!
Good afternoon Jon
Good afternoon Dan!
Keep on tractoring!
I have the Artillian bucket. I have had limited success but I cannot get all the way around my target. I also have seeing where I am digging. I did make a good trench for burring a wire.
There is a learning curve and it take some practice. I lift the bucket just high enough so I can see the underside of where the bucket is and then once lined up I curl the bucket up to be in line at about a 45 degree angle.
Keep on tractoring!
Awesome vids Jon, looks like you and Biff's Equipment are on the artillian stump bucket train. I am really digging it harr harr harr
Pretty funny! 😂😂 Yep, Biff has a great channel. I need to get over there and see what he's been up to lately.
Keep on tractoring!
@@ritterjon I think you would be very interested in the fuel filter mod that Biff's Equipment showed to replace the two factory fuel filters. I'm thinking of doing it. I get fairly cold here in S.W Ontario Canada, more snow than cold, but you in Minnesota, you're farther North my man. Check out the fuel filter mod I think the channel Tractor Tech was the vid Biff's Equipment got the idea from
How's she goin'? The trenching bucket sure does a number on those roots. Being able to move the tractor around and quickly reset you attack angle makes all the difference I think!! Take care!!
Mobility is key! The trenching bucket really worked well for the small stumps I was removing. Hope all is well.
Keep on tractoring!
All good points Jon and great comparison! Opened my eyes to one of these buckets! Thanks for taking the time to make this one!
Glad you enjoyed it, the backhoe is fun but not always the quickest method.
Keep on tractoring!
Jon and friends the stumper is something that has a lot of uses we need one we have the Kubota quick hitch and have not fond one yet
God Bless All
PaK
It has come in handy for a variety of things. The increased leverage in small areas is great. God bless.
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I use a 6" bucket for stumps. You get more power in a small area than the 12" for some of those longer roots. I'd have had that stump out with the backhoe in 2-3 minutes.
Planting pines...I have a few acres of them..pine straw, pine comes, pine needles...🙄🙄
Sounds like you might not be a big fan on pines. I love pine trees. Not so much Jack pines though.
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Good evening Jon I just finished making a stump bucket for my 23S not painted yet
I totally disagree with your conclusion. I've got both the stump bucket and the BX23s backhoe. The stump bucket does a good job on tiny stumps, but it doesn't have the reach to get to larger stumps. You spend all day digging a large hole to get at the stump.The backhoe with a 4" BExpanded trenching bucket is far faster at removing larger stumps than the stump bucket. It digs twice as deep per stroke as the standard bucket, and the teeth are much sharper. You position your machine once, cut on both sides of the stump, move once, and the last dig pops the stump out. No way the trenching bucket can keep up. Using the standard backhoe bucket is not a good comparison. Stump removal is not what it is designed for. I still like your videos, and you do a great job explaining things to the viewers. It's just this one doesn't make sense to me.
I would have to agree also with Mark. Not a fair test. Had you tried to use the Artillian bucket on the same root you used the backhoe on... it would have taken far longer than 11.5 minutes to remove that same stump. For small stumps, it has it's place I suppose. Although Artillian calls it a trenching bucket, I would not want to use it for trenches either.
I speak from experience as I have a John Deere 1025R with 260B backhoe.
I think that folks who buy this Artillian bucket based solely on your recommendations and poor test procedures will be sorely disappointed.
Mark - I agree with you, I should do a better job explaining that a larger stump is no match for a trenching bucket. I meant this video to be for people dealing with small tree stumps and bushes. The standard backhoe bucket is best for digging dirt.
Thanks for the feedback.
Keep on tractoring!
Busman - I disagree, I'm positive it would have taken me far less time with the trenching bucket. The problem was I couldn't cut the roots with the backhoe, I would have cut them much easier with the trenching bucket.
Keep on tractoring!
Do they make this for a regular style skid steer quick attach?
Yes, stump buckets are made by a lot of different manufactures. Artillian specializes in the compact tractor market.
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Heyhey Jon You sure have good friends allowing you to come dig up their yard. LOL Nice job
And they said I could come back anytime! You know I'm taking them up on that offer for sure!
Keep on tractoring!
BTW, is that your new mic? sounds like it is clipping a bit.
It was my old Movo but I think I messed up in the editing process. That and there was a little wind that had some affect.
Keep on tractoring!
While the trencher definitely is useful and worthy, I did notice the tree chosen for backhoe in timed comparison was a MUCH larger tree! A couple inches more diameter greatly increase the root zone. That said, I like the trencher attachment.
It was larger but I know that with the trenching bucket I still would have had it out faster because I would have been able to use the tractor momentum and power to cut through the roots with the trenching bucket.
Keep on tractoring!
Hello Jon,
Love the channel!!! So I finalized my purchase of my brand new 2021 BX23S this morning! YEA!!!!! I am very interested in the Artillian fork frame system. Curious of the size you have on yours and what you would recommend for the small sub compact BX23S.
Hey Stephen! This is the fork frame I have.
www.artillian.com/product/3000-lb-ssqa-pallet-fork-frame/
It is very strong and lightweight. I have 42 inch forks but I also have a larger L3940 that having the longer forks for makes sense. If I just used it with my BX23S I would go with the 36 inch forks.
The Artillian system is great because as you need attachments such as a grapple or trenching bucket you can add Artillian products to the same fork frame. Top notch quality also 👍
Congrats on the new tractor, I'm sure you'll find many uses for it through the years. 😁👍
Keep on tractoring!
Another stellar comparison! Thank you very much. 👍
Do yourself a favor and dig the Jack Pine out now. THOSE are the nastiest trees. We have 14 acres of them and they are horrible.
I'm not a fan of them either but it's not my place. I think there are a few different varieties.
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Ha you compared a watermelon to a rasin. 🤣🤣