As hard as it is to listen to Hetfields voice change over the years playing the heavy stuff... when he actually sings, it adds a lot to the music. Mama Said is one of my favorite Metallica songs because of that. Good on you Bob
@@nicholaschase768 so far so good. I thought he was solid on Hardwired too. Its more live than anything that feels compromised. Hetfields a good singer when hes not trying to sing like hes 23 again
I’ve always liked Bob Rock’s mixes. They have an ambience to them that makes you feel like the band is performing in the room or the car with you. Not just individual tracks playing simultaneously. Even Saint Anger-which everybody hates for the snare drum-has that 3D natural ambience and doesn’t feel squashed to death.
@@skippertheeyechild6621 yep. Even Garage Inc. You really feel like there’s 4x12 cabinets pushing air in the car with you. He gets something organic that I don’t hear a lot in most modern mixes.
@@JTroskaTV Always felt that, specially in Load/Reload. With good car speakers it really feels like there's actual cabinets right beside you. and the drums are so damn sweet, their sound would still hold up today in a modern metal record.
Epic vid clip💥James is outside. Bob tells him to stop the nature trip he's on. Time to get to work, not watch trees. Bob was serious. "Peace brother" James said, cool af. Then NO, he touches Bob's baggy shirt, seriously, calmly says "Can I wear your dress?". Bob storms off. Lmao funny.
Bob Rock gets a lot of unwarranted hate. Metallica changed their sound because they wanted to. They wanted an AC/DC size record and the only way to do that was to lighten up a bit. Can’t hate on Bob Rock for their choices. Plus, TBA is a masterpiece just as its predecessors.
they changed their songwriting approach because they wanted to, but Bob Rock made them change their approach to making an album as well as the way they sing and play. As great as the album is, Bob Rock's influence led to Load and the rest is history.
Yup, people always want to defend their idols like they "need" to be defended, even though their idols made their own choices. It has been clear from the beginning that they did what they wanted and Bob Rock just helped them do it. If anything, Bob helped them become way better musicians, from "Black Album" to 'St. Anger', and it's all well-documented. - People should be thanking Bob Rock if they care about MetallicA as a band and musicians. If they don't like whatever music came out of them since "Black Album", they can just go away and ignore it. - Fortunately, there's a big population that just appreciates pretty much all of their works, or even people who have grown to like the "newer" stuff later on. But those few stubborn nitwits that have been whining for like three decades now can just disappear.
@@michaelangeloh.5383 You have to realize the original plan was for Bob Rock to mix TBA, just to help them get it to sound as good as possible. Then he suggested he produce it, and they begrudgingly accepted. They next few months were difficult because they were weary of his ideas and methods. In other words, they didn't set out to have Bob do all these new things. It just kinda ended up happening that way when they finally let their guard down.
@@apocalyptusmaximus8769 Bullshit. Metallica understood they had to do something different due to the rise of grunge. The old style was getting "old", so they did something that was not grunge, not metal, but just different from both.
Logan Mader was asked wich band was a dream for him to produce...the answer was Metallica...It will never happen but just imagine 1 minute the sound of the album...😲😲😲😱😱😱😁😁😁🤘🤘🤘
The direction Metallica wanted to take with the _Black Album_ was the first time Metallica knew that they didn't know everything. To become greatest is to admit that there are other people who may know more than you. Metallica hired the best, and through that collaboration created one of the greatest metal albums of all time.
@@turtleneckferretYou're 💯% right & all wrong. It's subjective. Music's my 1st love, a passion, esp delta blues & rock, Beatles - Metallica. I dislike 90+% pop, country, rap but billions love it. I won't tell em it sucks. I'll find ear pods, drown the sound!
@@turtleneckferret Just kids in that era, & James was angry af. They're not entertainers with one formula, they're ARTISTS with real insight, music changed as they matured, saw more to life than sold out arenas & blow jobs from bleach blondes😉. Evolution, baby. True life🤘
@@fireadept007 I agree, but what I’m saying is that the SOUND became heavier than earlier albums. Mostly it’s because Bob Rock brought back the bass, something Justice seriously lacked. My personal favorite albums are Ride and Master, I became a fan after hearing the release of Fight Fire with Fire, still live the energy of that song. No, they played heavy music from Ride and onward while Kill was pure thrash metal. But he sound became heavier on the black album, and that’s my opinion. 🤘🏻🇸🇪😉
I remember Bob saying, "I don't believe Metallica will ever have a permanent bass player."...and he was never seen again. Metallica are guarded and they don't like people saying things like that...
Echoing what so many commenters are saying that Bob Rock “gets so much hate”, I truly believe if Cliff was alive to be a part of this record, he would have been overjoyed working with Bob. Because Cliff believed in the MUSIC and Bob brought out whatever they may have been lacking at the time.
good point. I think Bob gave the big brother role/vibe that Cliff used to have. Jason is hell of a bass player, but his energy was completely different and I think the rest of the band needed that, and Bob provided that in the studio. after all the St Anger era therapy, I guess they finally came to terms with their grief and moved on.
Bob Rock is actually a great producer and from what I have heard over the years Metallica wanted to change before they even got in contact with Bob rock they wanted to do shorter songs for stadium tours. It would’ve been nice to have a bridge between and justice for all and the black album but it is what it is. I will say this I’ll never forget where I was the first time I heard the black album because I’ve never heard anything like it. Looking back on it there’s only a handful songs that I could pick off that album that I would truly put as great songs. Sad but true holier than thou the God that failed of Wolf and Man the unforgiven wherever I May roam/of Wolf and Man.
Is this full interview available on youtube? Bob Rock's always interested me, from being the engineer on Slippery When Wet, to producing Motley Crue, Metallica, and Motley Crue again in 2004 for the 3 or 4 new songs on Red White and Crue anthology album.
It goes back even farther than that. He started out engineering for Bruce Fairburn (Whom he mentions in this video) way back in the late 70's and at the same time he'd produce local punk bands after hours at the studio. Had his own fairly successful band called the Payolas (later Rock & Hyde) in Canada. That early scene of people included Loverboy and a very young Bryan Adams who was writing songs for various people.
@@wc1994 What ??? what does that have to do with anything ? i know he didn't produce Justice and i didn't say he did However , Jason was also on Black and bob did produce black Weird comment mate
No. He should be blamed for hurting Metallica. Once he left they put out death magnetic, one of the more underrated albums I know. Listen to All Nightmare Long then tell me a single song during the Bob Rock era that rivals it.
I’d love to blame Bob for the change in music, but I think as far as how much “heavy metal” they had left in them, after Justice, the juice was all squeezed out. To many of the fan’s dismay, these guys just didn’t have it in them to write the music we had grown to love and expect. They were different people. I think Justice was a cathartic album for them. First album written without Cliff and they were probably still angry about his passing, it reflected in the music. All the grief and anger over his loss was put into the album. All of the remaining fuel in the tank was spent. That, and money and having kids. Do I think they should have changed their band name, yes. I also can’t be mad at someone for how life changes them.
It's funny to me how they were such fans of MC, to the point where they wanted to make an album that sounded like theirs and hired the same producer. Meanwhile, they always used to make fun of all those types of bands, calling them posers, shit musicians and such. Turns out they were the real posers.
They were more fans of their records sonically as opposed to the songwriting and approach. I've always struggled to take MC seriously but in particular, I always thought Mick Mars had a great guitar sound.
Until Bob, James had been able to talk the producer into "speeding up the reel", i.e. slowing the reel down, tuning the guitars down, playing a riff slower, then speeding the reel up so it sounds like it was played fast in-tune. They did this on Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, and And Justice for All. Bob wasn't going to do that shit, he wanted James to play it.
See, that doesn't make a lot of sense to me. They admitted that they thought the lowest note was E - E standard. Which may be why you never heard anything else on the first four albums. I'm not trying to make you sound dumb or make myself dumb but I'd love to see your source for this.
@@coledurbin2610 The lowest note being E has nothing to do with what I was talking about here's the source of the speeding up the tape, its well known they sped up more than back to E so the songs are sharp on puppets specifically. th-cam.com/video/hMkLPPGnYRg/w-d-xo.html
that was entirely done for the purpose of sound. They'd play mop and battery live faster than it was on the record, so it wasn't a skill thing. They just could 't get the gallops to sound crisp and clean at that speed. It was the mid 80's, sound wasn't what it was today. Today you can find tones that'll sound arsh but clear and crisp. They didn't need to do this on this album, because A) There was no fast songs B) Bob was a master of sound. No need to cheat to get the sound you want with him.
I mean Bob got them more platinum records off just the black album than all the albums that came before it combined. Bob did what he was hired to do. Idk how Metallica feels about him selling off his rights last year , but Greg will probably be producing the next one. If we get a next one anytime soon.
I think James's young inspiration came from his anger caused by conflict from his father and dogma regarding the church. I think his father was dominating, controlling and judgmental. Not uncommon in the 1970s. This would naturally cause a lot of frustration for any teenage boy trying to gain his independence. So decades later, I can see natural personality similarities in James. But being in charge is part of being band leader, so it fits well. I wonder if James has any boys. And if so, how did James change that relationship to be different. ~ The Social Psychologist.
I met Bob Rock in Vancouver sometime around 2006 or 07 at a Costco I worked at, he was super fkn douchey lol but overall he's probably alright he was probably just annoyed meeting a fan lol whatever
I don’t know if Bob Rock or the band made the decisions around St. Anger, but talk about going from great production to dog s&$t. You would have to re-record that album to save it.
I wish Bob and Metallica came back together. I think enough time has passed. Ever since he was gone, you could tell something's been missing from the music. I think he was pushing and challenging the band in ways that made for more sound arrangements and more uncompromising spirit. Nothing against Greg Fidelman, but I feel like he's there to get everything working and that's it. I don't think he's in the position to tell Hetfield or Ulrich anything. It kind of shows a little bit on the last two records. I do like them and there are some classic songs on both of them, but you can also tell that there's a sense of complacency in the arrangements, a bit of a lackadaisical attitude to some of the riffs - a bit of an "eh, that'll work well enough!" vibe. Bob was always the type of guy to make the band step up and be more creative.
Yeah... I think the OPPOSITE of everything you just said. Rock pushed them musically?! Any musician who has played Metallica realizes that everything between the black album and st anger is far easier to play than the first 4 albums or even than magnetic or hardwired. Bob Rock is like McDonald's - cheap, easy get, and low quality.
@@jophusxakc3192 Yeah, you think the opposite of what I said, because what you think is nonsense. What does the difficulty of the parts have to do with anything? Clearly you understand absolutely nothing about music or songwriting.
@@honigdachs. nope. Load and reload are simple blues based rock. Give me the equivalent of ... and justice for all (musically speaking) from either load or reload.
yeah it's sketchy but if you consider the context James was asking bob how to actually sing and as an example he PLAYED HIM A CHRIS ISSAK RECORD you can also later hear it at 2"37 is BESIDES THAT WHAT YOU HEAR IN CHRIS ISSAKS VOICE IS......NUANCES
People's disagreements about the Black Album were going to happen with or without Bob Rock as the producer. I probably just would have been some other shittier version of the Black Album without Bob Rock, and it would have flopped. Then Metallica would have broken up by 2000.
@@eazye519 Yeah I know that. He played for a few album sessions on their worst album. Doesn't make him a member. But I was say if we're putting producer's on as members, Flemming should should be up there before anyone else.
@@eazye519 St. Anger is not the reason they're in the Hall of Fame, not that it's a legitimate organization anyways. Bob just played till they found Rob anyway. Actually Rob's been on more albums as a player, Bob just played in a couple sessions. Rob's been there longer than Jason has now.
The "Mainstream" narrative is BS, every Thrash Band of the movement wanted to be Heard and be around the globe, Metallica had left the movement in the dust Years ago and moved to a more "musical" (therefore melodic) approach since Lightning and made great music with It. Furthermore, Metallica was one of the last bands to try doing public stunts (Videos, Arrenged singles, TV appearances ect) and they where already gigantic at that point, when the band finally released a video for One other more "undreground" bands already had 4-6 videos of about 3 ballads for MTV
My thoughts are that the Black album was the start of Metallica's start of selling out. The first four albums to my ears were the best they ever did, and then they went downhill from the Black album.
Screw Bob Rock!!! Metallica doesn't need a neurotic know it all in the room trying to talk them out of their own ideas. There's a reason they got away from him.
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“Year and a half”is a great documentary and I wish there was more available just like it from other great bands
That was awesome and Bob is 100% spot on here. Great to hear his perspective and how it all came out. Good on them.
As hard as it is to listen to Hetfields voice change over the years playing the heavy stuff... when he actually sings, it adds a lot to the music. Mama Said is one of my favorite Metallica songs because of that. Good on you Bob
Dude, have you listened to 72 seasons? Arguably his best vocal performance of his career!
@@nicholaschase768 so far so good. I thought he was solid on Hardwired too. Its more live than anything that feels compromised. Hetfields a good singer when hes not trying to sing like hes 23 again
I always thought that Bob is just straight up great guy who knows his stuff, always interesting hearing him talking about stuff.
He's also responsible for making the worst Metallica album
@@turtleneckferret I didn't know he produced Lulu
@@stevenbaker153 That's not a Metallica album. It's Loud Reed's album and it features Metallica.
@@turtleneckferret Bob Rock only produced what Metallica wrote.
I’ve always liked Bob Rock’s mixes. They have an ambience to them that makes you feel like the band is performing in the room or the car with you. Not just individual tracks playing simultaneously. Even Saint Anger-which everybody hates for the snare drum-has that 3D natural ambience and doesn’t feel squashed to death.
Black album, Load and Reload sound fantastic.
@@skippertheeyechild6621 yep. Even Garage Inc. You really feel like there’s 4x12 cabinets pushing air in the car with you. He gets something organic that I don’t hear a lot in most modern mixes.
@@JTroskaTV Yes! I forgot about the new covers on Garage Inc.
Absolutely love how Astronomy sounds.
The rim ring even sounds good on st anger
@@JTroskaTV Always felt that, specially in Load/Reload. With good car speakers it really feels like there's actual cabinets right beside you. and the drums are so damn sweet, their sound would still hold up today in a modern metal record.
I think Bob Rock is a good human being. You can feel it
It’s bc he’s Canadian. Lol
@@adamdelia5179 Canada is nothing to brag about anymore.
From a TH-cam interview? Jeffery Dahmer seems like a nice put together guy as well from a TH-cam clip.
@@jophusxakc3192 Nah… i’ve seen him in Metallica documentaries and multiple interviews
OK. He must be a wonderful human being then.
james really think very deeply
Epic vid clip💥James is outside. Bob tells him to stop the nature trip he's on. Time to get to work, not watch trees. Bob was serious. "Peace brother" James said, cool af. Then NO, he touches Bob's baggy shirt, seriously, calmly says "Can I wear your dress?". Bob storms off. Lmao funny.
That’s a great clip lmao
I wish they'd get Femming Rasmussen or Bob Rock for the new album. I'm not a fan of Greg Fidelman, and Rick Rubin was atrocious with Metallica.
Flemming unfortunately died a few weeks ago
@@TheWalkingRaven530 Wrong Flemming. You're talking about Lars' drum tech
Flemming for me
Nooooooo.. fuck, then bob rock
They'll need to write good songs first.
Bob Rock gets a lot of unwarranted hate. Metallica changed their sound because they wanted to. They wanted an AC/DC size record and the only way to do that was to lighten up a bit. Can’t hate on Bob Rock for their choices. Plus, TBA is a masterpiece just as its predecessors.
they changed their songwriting approach because they wanted to, but Bob Rock made them change their approach to making an album as well as the way they sing and play. As great as the album is, Bob Rock's influence led to Load and the rest is history.
Yup, people always want to defend their idols like they "need" to be defended, even though their idols made their own choices.
It has been clear from the beginning that they did what they wanted and Bob Rock just helped them do it. If anything, Bob helped them become way better musicians, from "Black Album" to 'St. Anger', and it's all well-documented. - People should be thanking Bob Rock if they care about MetallicA as a band and musicians. If they don't like whatever music came out of them since "Black Album", they can just go away and ignore it. - Fortunately, there's a big population that just appreciates pretty much all of their works, or even people who have grown to like the "newer" stuff later on. But those few stubborn nitwits that have been whining for like three decades now can just disappear.
@@apocalyptusmaximus8769 - They made the change of style themselves, no matter what.
@@michaelangeloh.5383 You have to realize the original plan was for Bob Rock to mix TBA, just to help them get it to sound as good as possible. Then he suggested he produce it, and they begrudgingly accepted. They next few months were difficult because they were weary of his ideas and methods. In other words, they didn't set out to have Bob do all these new things. It just kinda ended up happening that way when they finally let their guard down.
@@apocalyptusmaximus8769 Bullshit. Metallica understood they had to do something different due to the rise of grunge. The old style was getting "old", so they did something that was not grunge, not metal, but just different from both.
Logan Mader was asked wich band was a dream for him to produce...the answer was Metallica...It will never happen but just imagine 1 minute the sound of the album...😲😲😲😱😱😱😁😁😁🤘🤘🤘
The direction Metallica wanted to take with the _Black Album_ was the first time Metallica knew that they didn't know everything. To become greatest is to admit that there are other people who may know more than you. Metallica hired the best, and through that collaboration created one of the greatest metal albums of all time.
Everything after justice sucks
@@turtleneckferret hey, 1988' fans called, they said "it's been over 30 Years, grow Up"
@@turtleneckferretYou're 💯% right & all wrong. It's subjective. Music's my 1st love, a passion, esp delta blues & rock, Beatles - Metallica. I dislike 90+% pop, country, rap but billions love it. I won't tell em it sucks. I'll find ear pods, drown the sound!
@@turtleneckferret Just kids in that era, & James was angry af. They're not entertainers with one formula, they're ARTISTS with real insight, music changed as they matured, saw more to life than sold out arenas & blow jobs from bleach blondes😉. Evolution, baby. True life🤘
@@antoniocenteno1483 hey, 1960's jokes called they want their lame joke back
I really respect Bob Rock, he did awesome things with the Metallica sound. Made it heavier, darker, more in your face 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🇸🇪🇺🇸
I still don’t get why people say black album is ‘heavier’ than previous works of Metallica. Literally a joke.
@@fireadept007 I agree, but what I’m saying is that the SOUND became heavier than earlier albums. Mostly it’s because Bob Rock brought back the bass, something Justice seriously lacked. My personal favorite albums are Ride and Master, I became a fan after hearing the release of Fight Fire with Fire, still live the energy of that song. No, they played heavy music from Ride and onward while Kill was pure thrash metal. But he sound became heavier on the black album, and that’s my opinion.
🤘🏻🇸🇪😉
@@fireadept007 Agreed. But it really is a perfect album
I remember Bob saying, "I don't believe Metallica will ever have a permanent bass player."...and he was never seen again. Metallica are guarded and they don't like people saying things like that...
That's not what happened at all. And, he was right wasn't he?
@@crashburn3292 ...rob is still in the band...so no he wasnt right so far.
Could you imagine Femming and Bob together in the studio with them? Probably never but I'd love to see them with Femming again.
Echoing what so many commenters are saying that Bob Rock “gets so much hate”, I truly believe if Cliff was alive to be a part of this record, he would have been overjoyed working with Bob. Because Cliff believed in the MUSIC and Bob brought out whatever they may have been lacking at the time.
good point. I think Bob gave the big brother role/vibe that Cliff used to have. Jason is hell of a bass player, but his energy was completely different and I think the rest of the band needed that, and Bob provided that in the studio. after all the St Anger era therapy, I guess they finally came to terms with their grief and moved on.
Yea when I think about Metallica - metallica I always see Bob as well as the band members, if not him we wouldn't have this masterpiece album.
Bob Rock is actually a great producer and from what I have heard over the years Metallica wanted to change before they even got in contact with Bob rock they wanted to do shorter songs for stadium tours. It would’ve been nice to have a bridge between and justice for all and the black album but it is what it is. I will say this I’ll never forget where I was the first time I heard the black album because I’ve never heard anything like it. Looking back on it there’s only a handful songs that I could pick off that album that I would truly put as great songs. Sad but true holier than thou the God that failed of Wolf and Man the unforgiven wherever I May roam/of Wolf and Man.
You just said half the album was great songs. At the time, that’s an incredible number of hits.
Is this full interview available on youtube? Bob Rock's always interested me, from being the engineer on Slippery When Wet, to producing Motley Crue, Metallica, and Motley Crue again in 2004 for the 3 or 4 new songs on Red White and Crue anthology album.
It’s on icons by gibson tv
It goes back even farther than that. He started out engineering for Bruce Fairburn (Whom he mentions in this video) way back in the late 70's and at the same time he'd produce local punk bands after hours at the studio. Had his own fairly successful band called the Payolas (later Rock & Hyde) in Canada.
That early scene of people included Loverboy and a very young Bryan Adams who was writing songs for various people.
@@deteho got a link?
@@benjaminwhite3585 th-cam.com/video/jMHHMb2cmuk/w-d-xo.html
Yeah it's a real shame that lars turned down the volume on bobs vocals and interviews
so that only he could be heard
Bob Rock Amplified METALLICA.
End of story.
yeah but he didn't amplify jason
@@martinkuliza Bob didn't produce And Justice For All. Flemming Rasmussen did
@@martinkuliza Jason without Bob: Hard to Heard on récord
Jason with Bob: Is HUGE
@@wc1994 What ???
what does that have to do with anything ?
i know he didn't produce Justice and i didn't say he did
However , Jason was also on Black and bob did produce black
Weird comment mate
@@antoniocenteno1483
I Know
and justice..hm, for all of us..
People need to give more credit to Bob Rock.
No. He should be blamed for hurting Metallica. Once he left they put out death magnetic, one of the more underrated albums I know. Listen to All Nightmare Long then tell me a single song during the Bob Rock era that rivals it.
I’d love to blame Bob for the change in music, but I think as far as how much “heavy metal” they had left in them, after Justice, the juice was all squeezed out. To many of the fan’s dismay, these guys just didn’t have it in them to write the music we had grown to love and expect. They were different people. I think Justice was a cathartic album for them. First album written without Cliff and they were probably still angry about his passing, it reflected in the music. All the grief and anger over his loss was put into the album. All of the remaining fuel in the tank was spent. That, and money and having kids. Do I think they should have changed their band name, yes. I also can’t be mad at someone for how life changes them.
They didn't have kid's at the time of The Black Album.
@@russkate88 kids....alcohol. they were preoccupied one way or the other. 🤣🤣
Bob "not because of me but because of me" Rock
It's funny to me how they were such fans of MC, to the point where they wanted to make an album that sounded like theirs and hired the same producer. Meanwhile, they always used to make fun of all those types of bands, calling them posers, shit musicians and such. Turns out they were the real posers.
They were more fans of their records sonically as opposed to the songwriting and approach.
I've always struggled to take MC seriously but in particular, I always thought Mick Mars had a great guitar sound.
2nd covid round.. fuck, forgot to watch metallica stream yesterday.. today maybe.. i got reminder.. today also..
Sounds like a good dude
Until Bob, James had been able to talk the producer into "speeding up the reel", i.e. slowing the reel down, tuning the guitars down, playing a riff slower, then speeding the reel up so it sounds like it was played fast in-tune. They did this on Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, and And Justice for All. Bob wasn't going to do that shit, he wanted James to play it.
See, that doesn't make a lot of sense to me. They admitted that they thought the lowest note was E - E standard. Which may be why you never heard anything else on the first four albums. I'm not trying to make you sound dumb or make myself dumb but I'd love to see your source for this.
@@coledurbin2610 The lowest note being E has nothing to do with what I was talking about here's the source of the speeding up the tape, its well known they sped up more than back to E so the songs are sharp on puppets specifically. th-cam.com/video/hMkLPPGnYRg/w-d-xo.html
that was entirely done for the purpose of sound. They'd play mop and battery live faster than it was on the record, so it wasn't a skill thing. They just could 't get the gallops to sound crisp and clean at that speed. It was the mid 80's, sound wasn't what it was today. Today you can find tones that'll sound arsh but clear and crisp. They didn't need to do this on this album, because
A) There was no fast songs
B) Bob was a master of sound. No need to cheat to get the sound you want with him.
I mean Bob got them more platinum records off just the black album than all the albums that came before it combined. Bob did what he was hired to do. Idk how Metallica feels about him selling off his rights last year , but Greg will probably be producing the next one. If we get a next one anytime soon.
I think James's young inspiration came from his anger caused by conflict from his father and dogma regarding the church. I think his father was dominating, controlling and judgmental. Not uncommon in the 1970s. This would naturally cause a lot of frustration for any teenage boy trying to gain his independence. So decades later, I can see natural personality similarities in James. But being in charge is part of being band leader, so it fits well. I wonder if James has any boys. And if so, how did James change that relationship to be different. ~ The Social Psychologist.
So that explains the big metallica change, james wanted to start singing more singy songy type songs, if that makes sense lol
I met Bob Rock in Vancouver sometime around 2006 or 07 at a Costco I worked at, he was super fkn douchey lol but overall he's probably alright he was probably just annoyed meeting a fan lol whatever
I don’t know if Bob Rock or the band made the decisions around St. Anger, but talk about going from great production to dog s&$t. You would have to re-record that album to save it.
This dude is why the last album that mattered from them was Justice.
I wish Bob and Metallica came back together. I think enough time has passed. Ever since he was gone, you could tell something's been missing from the music. I think he was pushing and challenging the band in ways that made for more sound arrangements and more uncompromising spirit. Nothing against Greg Fidelman, but I feel like he's there to get everything working and that's it. I don't think he's in the position to tell Hetfield or Ulrich anything. It kind of shows a little bit on the last two records. I do like them and there are some classic songs on both of them, but you can also tell that there's a sense of complacency in the arrangements, a bit of a lackadaisical attitude to some of the riffs - a bit of an "eh, that'll work well enough!" vibe. Bob was always the type of guy to make the band step up and be more creative.
Yeah... I think the OPPOSITE of everything you just said. Rock pushed them musically?! Any musician who has played Metallica realizes that everything between the black album and st anger is far easier to play than the first 4 albums or even than magnetic or hardwired. Bob Rock is like McDonald's - cheap, easy get, and low quality.
@@jophusxakc3192 Yeah, you think the opposite of what I said, because what you think is nonsense. What does the difficulty of the parts have to do with anything? Clearly you understand absolutely nothing about music or songwriting.
@@honigdachs. because 4 chord rock songs are boring. I know a bit about music.
@@jophusxakc3192 There's a bigger variety of chords and voicings on Load then on the all first four Metallica records together.
@@honigdachs. nope. Load and reload are simple blues based rock. Give me the equivalent of ... and justice for all (musically speaking) from either load or reload.
2:15 he played me a what? siesmographic?
A Chris Isaak record
@@RoboNex666 damn my ears are going thx
yeah it's sketchy but if you consider the context
James was asking bob how to actually sing
and as an example he PLAYED HIM A CHRIS ISSAK RECORD
you can also later hear it at 2"37 is
BESIDES THAT WHAT YOU HEAR IN CHRIS ISSAKS VOICE IS......NUANCES
The Black album worked because Rock didn't give in to Lars Ulrich.
as metal turned to what senior citizens watched an crosses the sea to the lgbt nation all the sudden there was no metal an just gossip
worst thing that has ever happened to Metallica
People's disagreements about the Black Album were going to happen with or without Bob Rock as the producer. I probably just would have been some other shittier version of the Black Album without Bob Rock, and it would have flopped. Then Metallica would have broken up by 2000.
Bob Rock belongs in the rock and roll hall of fame as a member of Metallica. Hes been on half the number of albums Rob has as a player.
Rasmussen if any Producer, he did RTL and MOP.
@@daniellysohirka5079 Bob Rock played live with Metallica. He played bass on St Anger. He was basically a member of the band
@@eazye519 Yeah I know that. He played for a few album sessions on their worst album. Doesn't make him a member. But I was say if we're putting producer's on as members, Flemming should should be up there before anyone else.
@@daniellysohirka5079 Bob Rock recorded an album and played live concerts. Sounds like a member to me
@@eazye519 St. Anger is not the reason they're in the Hall of Fame, not that it's a legitimate organization anyways. Bob just played till they found Rob anyway. Actually Rob's been on more albums as a player, Bob just played in a couple sessions. Rob's been there longer than Jason has now.
Greed
They went mainstream. But the truly “metal” Metallica died with Bob Rock
My thoughts exactly.
The "Mainstream" narrative is BS, every Thrash Band of the movement wanted to be Heard and be around the globe, Metallica had left the movement in the dust Years ago and moved to a more "musical" (therefore melodic) approach since Lightning and made great music with It. Furthermore, Metallica was one of the last bands to try doing public stunts (Videos, Arrenged singles, TV appearances ect) and they where already gigantic at that point, when the band finally released a video for One other more "undreground" bands already had 4-6 videos of about 3 ballads for MTV
@@antoniocenteno1483 every band? Pantera.
The ruination of the Metallica sound that I fell in love with.
That's not being a fan
Bob Rock - the Jar Jar Binks of metal production. Can't stand what he did to Metallica.
My thoughts are that the Black album was the start of Metallica's start of selling out. The first four albums to my ears were the best they ever did, and then they went downhill from the Black album.
What a well thought-out and original opinion.
For me Bob rock will always be the guy who ruined Metallica.
Bob, go away. Stop ruining great bands.
Bob Rock was a mistake.
Screw Bob Rock!!!
Metallica doesn't need a neurotic know it all in the room trying to talk them out of their own ideas.
There's a reason they got away from him.