Muslim Coins with Shiva's Bull: The World of the Hindu Turk Shahs
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From the 7th to 10th centuries, a group of dynasties called the Kabul Shahs dominated much of Afghanistan. Their name might seem like that of an Islamic dynasty, but in reality, the Kabul Shahs confound our binary expectations of the medieval world. Most Kabul Shahs were Buddhist or “Hindu” and descended from ethnic groups based in present-day Pakistan and portions of Central Asia. Anirudh Kanisetti explains their forgotten history.
Sources:
Flood, Finbarr B. Objects of translation: Material culture and medieval “Hindu-Muslim” encounter. Princeton University Press, 2009.
Klimburg-Salter, Deborah. The kingdom of Bāmiyān: Buddhist art and culture of the Hindu Kush. Istituto Universitario Orientale, Dipartimento di Studi Asiatici/Series maior, 1989.
Klimburg-Salter, Deborah. "Corridors of Communication Across Afghanistan 7th to 10th Centuries." In Paysages de centre de l’Afghanistan: paysages naturels, paysages culturels. Paris: Centre d'Etudes et de Recherches Documentaires Sur l'Afghanistan, 2010. 173-186.
Rahman, Abdur. "New Light on the Khingal, Turk and Hindu Shahis". Ancient Pakistan XV (2002): 37-42.
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The guy is explaining al-taqiyah in a roundabout way. The point is Mahmud of Ghazni was a brute who invaded Somnath 17 times. Ghazni was bred by the same people who Kanisetti is trying to whitewash! The drivel is interesting but full of holes...
Somnath was a business center. That's why Gazni could looted 17times.
@@reganrock8762 Did business happen in Rome? Will you accept the Vatican being raised 17 times in the name of loot? Stop fucking joking! When someone tells you why they are doing something believe them. That's the point!
@@reganrock8762 there is no mentioned of 17 times however they did looted it many times this happen because hhindus started to behave like a librandus all this happen because of nonsense philosophy of jains and bbudhist all chutiya philosophy is the main culprit remember all hhindu gods are warrior both ram and krishna ( they preach peace through strength) we iindians are the son and daughters of warriors ( ram & krishna) not some librandus...
Poor chap sharing only information with no direction, is he trying to say, those were secular kings.
But he his forgetting that those were or atleast can be secular, because they were in power.
You talk about fluid cultural interaction and harmony bla bla bla.
Then why there are no Hindus or Buddhists in modern Afghanistan? How could a ‘fluid, cultural, secular, moderate, liberal… bl bla bla’ harmony results in ethnically cleansed country without Hindus in a few centuries?
Answer is in the question.
Wat blah la blah ..... u hv sheep brains ???
He is dissecting as he see fit
Fluid meaning it goes either way to serve the interest as it unfolds and acting as the circumstances of the day demands .
Use ur think head a bit to see it thru ... u don't just take the word the literally and read by the letter
If u had related to context, it wd hv gvn u some idea
Cheers 🥂
@@lazydamsel I see some famous words being quoted here. Iykyk
Answer is in the "fluid thinking" of Kani. Much like his vision his thinking is squint too. Probably fluid in his brains or what's left of it .
Later taliban came😢
how does it matter, how liberal or conservative all these rulers were. today, hindus, buddhists, sikhs and others are extinct in Afghanistan and less than 2 percent in Pakistan. Besides all those monuments of past no longer exist. even the ones which was hard to destroy in the past, like Bamiyan Buddha were destroyed 20 years ago. I guess, what is the point of all this when end result is what we see today ? I guess it only matters to left leaning historians, media to present a different narrative.
Modern historians concerned with preserving liberalism often gloss over these facts in order to present a more cohesive past which wasn't there. If past was so cosmopolitan then indeed why there aren't any surviving budhhist or Hindus in Afghanistan
"liberalism is the excuse for the cowards" quoted by me......
So there is no point in studying history?😂😂
What is Muslim coins?? Now coins too have religion?? For the sake of your bogus narratives that you like to pedal don't post clickbaits!
They are called Muslim coins because they were issued by Muslim rulers.
@@agniswar3 ok mmuslim origin is in aarab so any mmosslim in india sud be called as aarrab living in iindia with indian citizenship good idea.. thank you for the suggestion..
😂🤣🤣🤣 You must be too opposite of intelligent.
Turk shahis hindu shahis last few hindus who left legacy on western indian subcontinent
Fake news
Whole world were Santana dharmic once.
The same time will come back soon.
@@adma7298 what a joke
@@harshmishra3214 From Australia to Americas idol worship was practiced.
Don't be science denier and anti hindu.
@@adma7298 I am not anti hindu but claiming everything hindu is ridiculous and non sense. Iran was zoroastrian under Sassanian empire, Egypt before Roman empire worshipped different God's and none were hindus
it was multicultural with hindus, then they came.. rest is history
I am not right winger at all and i myself is atheist and history student from neutral perspective but here i found most hypocrite and biased analysis of history ever with nice sugar coated words.
You are quoting those foreigner historians smartly and ignoring what Indian origin historians have to say.
And repeatedly using ODIshahi instead of popular term Hindu shahi proves your ideology which you try to sell here.
You can't simply ignore religious zeal and bigotry of Islamic faith and those Persian and arabic rulers who were CONVERTED to it.
Emir of Multans destroyed Sun temple there which was economically important for them and famous across subcontinent and you are spreading sermons of shahi - multan emirates brotherhood.
No wonder your soft approach for ghaznavid invasions because you would justify it soon.
Grow up and think rationality
😂🤣🤣🤣🤮
1) Idk why the idea of turkic and central asian Shaivas is surprising. Shiva was worshiped as far north as present day Uzbekistan and possibly Xinjiang. They existed and some of their descendants exists amongst us today.
2) Yes communities existed with shared practices, Muslims too would pray and worship at hindu and buddhist shrines. Till about a 100 years ago Muslims and Christians used to worship at the shrines of the same saints in the the levant but not so today. In the context of the subcontinent, Islam changed, largely due to the spread of madrasa education of what the ashrafi elite saw islam as.
3)The Odi Shahis did not vanish. The last Odi Shahi princes migrated to Kashmir over the last century of the Shahi dynasty and merged with the nobility of Kashmir. The clan who remained in the region likely merging into the Punjabi and Pashtun communities around them.
4) Abu Ali Lawik may have been a brother in law to the shahis and muslim. But the Lawiks converted to islam for political reasons a century and a half earlier. The Lawiks most likely had a close relations with the Shahi both Turkic and Odi Shahis for centuries.
5) The Saffarid capture of Kabul in 9th century may have been temporary. The Saffarids controlled the citadel of Kabul sure but the city of Kabul below still a majority hindu and buddhist town with a sizeable jewish minority. Many Shahi kings after this date were still coronated in Kabul by paying the saffarids in the citadel. As a Shahi king would only have legitimacy if he was crowned in Kabul.
Oh..no..Mr. Erdogan projects himself as 21 st century Khalifa but his ancestors were Hindu..
Nothing..... absolutely nothing to be proud about . Hinduism isn't a religion.
@@russellmathews3599exactly
Hinduism is Dharma
Islam is mazhab
Christianity is religion
Buddhism is philosophy
Nordic & Greek gods were mythology
Simple
Erdogan has to curb his hindutva. 😡
Turks are from Turkmenistan and not turkey
oh, Ignorant Hindu read the history of who is the ancestor of the Turks. Your existence has no importance in the world and was never there. You, people, are only considered as animals.
A playlist of THINKING MEDIEVAL is desperately needed.
Why is HINDU in inverted commas in the thumbnail but not BUDDHIST? - ThePrint can't stand Hindus?
because of this chutiya buddhist and jain philosophy ( passive philosophy) has ruin iindia ....... peace only come through strength just like the example set by Ram & Krishna .... we iindian are the son and daughters of warrior ( ram -krishna) not some librandus reject this chutiya librandu philosophy and accept chanakya saam daam dand bhed philosophy...
I like the conceit of Kani. As usual he brings his squint vision to bear of Abu Lawik a vassal of the Hindu Shahis & in all probability a distant relative of them whose forefathers were forced to convert after losing repeatedly to the Saffarids.
The Kabul Shahis lamented the conversion to the Arab's faith & asked this forefather of Abu Lawik to revert back to Hinduism.There's no record of the Kabul Shahis maintaining marital relations with the Lawiks after their conversion.
Apparently when this ancestor of Abu Lawik converted to Izzlam he placed two conditions - he would not partake of beef & he wouldn't be expected to have carnal relations with boys. Yes , you read it right.
Trust Kani to reveal all that here . Poor chap would die of haemorrhaging in his hemorrhoids or maybe this is thev" fluidity " he was referring to .
Would love to read your book..😂
@@junaid_2107 Read Andre Wynk's 3 volume opus on Al Hind - The Making of Indo Izz lamic World .
Everything you desire to read about Afganistan & it's pre Izz lamic past & how was it destroyed & people converted is all there .
You don't have to wait for my book to arrive.
Ouch!
@@junaid_2107 So some idiots still don't understand how the academic circle jerk works...
@Football-Pundit I've just one question for you . Are you a Paxtani momin ?
You indians are the first civilization
In this world , if you take arab or russians or americans all are from you the *vasudev family* , it means you are all childrens from one father and mother .
Islam also says same you are from a single pair.
In this, there are good and bad
Just as sanathanis and pure sanathanis and if you take duryodanan as sanathani and arjun as pure sanathani ,
Their both attributes found today also in this world .
you can also say this , like dharmi or adharmi
Or good and bad .
But who are good?
Good peoples leave their own properties but don't go to fight with bad just arjun dont want to fight but duryodanan never give up he want to fight
You indians are sanathanis
But this world contains pure sanathanis who left this land are more than you . Check their attributes they are not interested in fighting ,
*"A blind son of a blind man"*
*'Even after the kingdom was divided, Duryodhana was not satisfied. He always regretted that half of his kingdom went to the Pandavas. He became even more jealous when he got to see the Pandavas'*
*He started plotting again*
This is bad peoples attributes
Those are here from generations to generations are not good but sanathanis.
Once this truth understood by the world
Then you sanathanis are ...
fuuck this "vasudev kutumbakum" philosophy --ek number ka chutiya philosophy -- india will follow the chanakyan philosophy now " saam daam dand bhed " first get rid of iislamb ( it is the no. 1 eenemy of iindia) then massive investment in defence and R&D field and make iindia an economical powerhouse ....
Looking forward to your next episode.
Dear Maryam,
Thank you for watching this episode. Glad to note that you are looking forward to more episodes!
@@ThePrintIndia I've forwarded this video to my local Madrassah whatsapp group. They were thrilled. They decided to use this for their Dawa'ah . Nothing better than videos made by Ka firs promoting Izzlam they concluded.
Keep up the good work & if you haven't snipped the foreskin , pls do so is what they advise & read the kalma Shahadah. Ameen summa ameen .
@@ThePrintIndia merging hhindus icon with iislam is hharram in iislamb ....
F your Medieval Period, Soofab!
Religion was never an issue for the ruling elites be it Past Present or Future it was a means to only attain wealth and power. So the context of it was looked at differently a 1000yrs back is not the most perfect choice of word . Alliance are still made to fortify wealth and power even today
It's true in other parts not in India. Religion has not plance in India until islamic invasion.
@@Ram-hd5rx religion was always used like this in india, now what you say is just to comfort your heart
@@Critic224 see small brains will never understand the world like you. Show me a proof to believe in that religion played a crucial role in India before islamic invasion. Pakistaniii bots
@@Critic224hinduphobic demon spotted 😡
But its foolish that you try to white wash islamic zeal to convert and overlooking ots barbarity
You are not digesting the truth.
Kabul = jabul.
Afghans didn't exist before 1709.
Hindu Buddhist were never different untill Britishers came and made it two.
4:20 -- 👀
Did medieval communities propel later kingdoms and societies to war or was there any peacetime worth talking about, periods of introspection, philosophy and spirituality and science technological advancement?
Simply wow.....
there was no accountability expected from the ruling class, hence their activities of convenience despite their religious leanings. Holding leaders to a high standard of truth seems to be a relatively new socio cultural expectation-not that it has helped make them less corrupt anyway!
desh bhakti is also hharram in iislamb ....
content is good but explain each point in little more detail and also take pause inbetween
Hindu ??? Nah, wholly Budhhist
Their name was hindu shahis. And they belonged to bali clan of mohyal Brahmin group
Hindu puithiam chu,,Saruak in mi zingah an awm thei a tha lo,,
Yawn
Stop inventing stories
What happened rice bag convert?
Star accepting things with a open mind.
@@bhaskarganguly7 start reading kalma may be, go full open minded.
@@sreyanshuchaterjee3962 মাথায় কি ছিট আছে?
@@bhaskarganguly7 It was a genuine suggestion, read the Quran and then start talking about open-mindedness. If that be too less for a bengali intellectual of your kind, read works by Muhammad Qasim Hindu Shah.
How much were you paid/bribed, 'Anirudh Kanisetti' ?
You are far.. 😂😂
should i interpret 'fluid' here as 'liberal'? So, what is the eventual fate of a liberal society?
This person that you are is dumb. Not all liberal societies have been conquered. A little fraction.
Cultural interaction is always fluid and simultaneously problematic. There's no perfect society. You will always have certain antagonisms from conservative groups. Such is History. There's no Golden Age or a Dark age. It's how human history unfolds naturally.
Exactly 👍🏻
Right , with this logic how do you fit in absolute truths like mass conversions to Abrahamic faiths whether in a few decades or centuries for one reason or another ? That's conservative Izzlam's idea of a perfect society & they pretty much achieved it in every land they conquered with the exception of Spain where it was reversed & India where the job was half done.
I will be astonished beyond belief if you don't recognise dark ages of Europe after the fall of Western roman empire i large parts attributed to spread of christianity. Orientation of religions do play a role.
Great informative episode
Kani... It's pronounced Gandhar not gandhara
Weekly doses❤
This was surprisingly good😊
hhindus are kkafirs period..
A great piece of history
Rajputs are of Turk Avar bloodline the Turks invaded from the steppe
So well presented and interesting. Looking forward to more in the series
Gandara desh means today afganistan. It's ruled by gandari in Mahabharata
Don't be multicultural if you aren't influencing others
Lol, not bad. I can’t figure out a proper way to dispute that.
you look absolutely stunning in this look having curly short hair, wearing nerd specs and sensuous lips 🙂
Why are you gay in Ugandan accent???
@@ac54022 🤣🤣🤣
@@ac54022 😂😂😂😂😂
Indo Islamic kingdom golden age of India
Idiot😂😂
Golden age where universities were destroyed and non islamic civilians were persecuted and slaughtered as per the records of islamic rulers - the same rulers tried to cement their religious piety by greater persecution of kafirs as is evident from succesive court records made by the same rulers..
Agreed. It was Bhai chara where momin was Bhai & Hindus were chara .
@@ic9771 man that was some analogy 🤣
Bull were only in indian subcontinent or bulls wete not part of the life of other communities or cultures. Please stop lying.
U guys don't believe any truth when said with archeological finds. This y Muslims try to destroy structures, figurines and images (evidence) bcis u are afraid it vl speak the truth
Cheers 🥂
Bulls were worshipped as "Nandi" in India
*are @@parvadhami980