KING Of ROUGHING | The KOR 5 from Kennametal | CNC Machining
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ก.ย. 2019
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I bought a 3/8" KOR 5 when this promo cam out. I have a TM-3P with a 6K spindle. The extra flutes let me cut comfortably at 145in/min and the thicker core has less deflection than some of my other shorter 3/8 tools. Surface finish doesn't look like a rougher... Didn't realize how much i loved it until I rapid moved it through some stock last night... Sad... I figured this place would be the best spot for it's eulogy.
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I have tried 3/4" KOR5 - - - unbelievable monster! Old school went approximately 2.5 hours, KOR5 went 15 minutes! Love it!
Holy crap! ‘Bout jumped out of my chair the video started! This is an incredible tool.
Brings a new meaning to “lets make some chips!”.
Thats some crazy speed!! I think we need this in our shop! Thanks titan- now all i need all the information in metric measurements 😂👍 greetings from Germany
I'm getting one for my Shapeoko - Boom!!
Lol
I don't have CNC but titan thank you very much for inspire me to learn and not give up
sounds like you have a great story to tell
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Not that great . Just so depressed from my country . but anyway i will keep education my self 😂😂😂
Where can I buy a Dremel adapter for that tool?
Hey titan, your content is great and it is helping me alot. I'm greatly inspired by your ideas and demonstration about super fast machining. In this video you mentioned about machine's capacity like its HP & Torque. So can you please make a video on understanding the machine parameters ? Because that would be great !
Wow, that removal rate is absolutely insane, it’s so fast it looks like the footage has been played back at 3X speed!
Mark Slatem but what is material to be cut? I think it's aluminium
Lovi Dhiman It is aluminium
Immediately added this video to my favorites.
Used minicut international 20 or so years ago and they were amazing in aluminum. Have you had any experience recently with them?
Lol I felt that I pushed hard with my 6040 this evening then this shows up. :D
I've always learned and taught that MRR is "Material Removal Rate" and not "Metal Removal Rate". Exciting tool!
I don't have a CNC machine, but I'm sold. However the link is broken
Good work 👏👏
Maybe a dumb question but can you plunge or ramp in with this cutter?
NICE TOOL!!! :-)
Have you used the GSW Alumigators? A side to side comparison would be interesting.
Thats a beauty
That tool looks awesome! High speed, high feed & big rewards in MRR . I’d love to test one out but at the price of it, I doubt I’ll ever see one. That is expensive !
List price for a 3/8 3XD is like $200... but the purchase price after discounts is $68... which worth it because this thing lasts long and murders material.
Ohh I’d use them all day long for $68, it’s definitely worth that, I saw the $213 price and that is a lot. Maybe they’ll be on MSC site soon to buy.
BBCNC they are on MSC’s site, depending on your discount you can get a .5x.5x1.5 for about $175
What would you recommend for a286 heat treated material I'm trying to hog mill .870 down to .25 and the last roughing endmill only lasted for 23 pieces while using the side of the cutter length /depth .815 on a half inch emill. Emill over all length was 4 inches solid carbide 4 flutes.
HARVI 3... I have a video on how to Mill A286 on this channel
Thank you Titan for these videos, I wish I could convince my shop to buy some of these.
Also, what would be your recommendation for a solid first machine? I plan on using it to manufacture custom firearms parts, knives, and whatever else strikes me.I’d love to stay under the $10,000 mark if a good machine could be had for less.
Maybe you can get an old Haas VF-1 or MiniMill... or Tormach.
Pierson Workholding has a very helpful channel and this is a great overview video on the topic: th-cam.com/video/OWQeO-aVjZU/w-d-xo.html
Great video. What coolant are you running? That doesn’t look like the clear Synergy you normally use.
It’s Synergy... Just running it at 1000 PSI so it’s got bubbles etc
Gotcha. Thanks! Just put a fresh batch in my first Haas that finally seems to be working (had issues with RO water not being good enough out here).
So, will this work better in terms of raw geometry than a corn cob style mill? Does variable helix also help reduce chatter or is it redundant with rougher types?
Corn Cob tools are not designed for high velocity milling. Also the 2 extra flutes adds to the speed. Also, KOR5 roughs and finishes with the same tool. Etc etc etc.
Can anyone break down the tool holding set up used in this video?
How would it handle milling out 3/16" aluminum hollow tubes at those speeds?
Hmm 🤔
Probably not the right application
Awesome :) you guys should also check out the gühring rf100 speed end mill it can do around 1000 cubic centimetres(around 400 cubic inches) per minute in 16Cr5 steel without any coolant. They have made a collaboration with chiron for that record, really nice
The rf100 is a legit EndMill... but this one has a different flute geometry and 5 flutes instead of 4 which makes it a speed demon. You basically can rapid with this tool on any machine that has equally high RPM’s.
But yes both cutters are geared towards the new age of efficiency milling. The cubes cut with the KOR5 absolutely amazing.
PS. Not trying to argue but 1000 cubic centimeters is 61.39 cubic inches.
Thanks for your reply and youre right I thought dividing it by 2.54 would be enough, my bad ;)
aluminum is easy, but can he do it on a cold night in stoke?
Yes
Yep
Every material is easy with the right tool. This is the right tool.
Wow that looks impressive, but did the machine really reach 1600”/min? And also in the internal pocket?
I have been calculating on the feeds and speed for a 12mm metric tool on a machine with 18000 rpms and with the recomended values from the catalog i did get a High feed by 10% ae but not that high.
How do you calculate the feed? Or did you just push it up by testing on the machine?
My problem is that my machine can theoretically run a feed by 2300”/min but is not allowed to run more than 590”/min in continous production😬 according to the manual. Because there is no cooling in the axis spindles.
How would the mrr be if the tool was tap tested and run in full with and 1xD in depth or more. That could be interresting to compare🤔
Yes on the outside...
No on the inside
Amazing
Wonder how it would have old up against titanium? I run a 5 axis makino mill.
Not for Titanium... but the HARVI 3 is and it’s Boeing’s Choice
Do you ever use high feed cutters, would like to see a video showing the advantages of these.
This is definitely the highest Feed Cutter in soft materials.
@@TITANSofCNC I think he means like feed Mills, you know like inserted cutters that have a low axial depth of cut but feed at 2-3mm per rev
I bet it wasn't titan answering. High feed work well for deep pockets
Alex Gregg, yes that’s what mean.
I think iscars three flute rougher would give this thing a run for the money that thing will take full radial all day long 1/2 inch deep no problem. Never tried this tool so hard to say, but thats what we use on my mazak 815
Not trying argue but a 3 flute in most applications will not beat the 5 flute, that can also slot. Definitely not trying to slot but it can... The point of this tool is to go 1.5 deep on a 1/2 Dia and then take a 10-20% Radial... and pretty much rapid the machine...
Calculate your Cubes per inch mentioned above... and let me know.
@@TITANSofCNC I wouldnt want to argue Its all good . Im very open to new ways to do things. I'm just an operator not an owner but as a operator all ways looking to do things better instead of stand around like most guys at the shop
Btw if you want to remove some metal look up a makino mag 3 :)
Marketing is marketing, but most machines aren't even going to be able to hit 1600ipm before decelerating.
And it looks almost exactly like an alumigator, so I would be curious to see how price:performance compare on the two.
It’s definitely Sexy though at 1600 IPM.
Just Sayin...
I always thought you dont want more than 3 flutes in AL because there's not enough chip clearance
That’s an old way of thinking.
High Efficiency Milling is explained in the video.
At the end of the day MRR is what matters so calculate it and you will see the difference
@@TITANSofCNC I used HSS toolpaths with stepovers and always using full DOC but always had issues with surface finish in corners when using 4 flute, had way more luck with 3 flute on AL
@@KenyonPayne this is a rougher only. Finish with a different endmill...
Wicked tool. Glad you mentioned the torque curve, most folks think aluminum and set their speed at 5K and hit go. We as experts can do MUCH better than that. As always, nice video my brother...
Muito loco 😏😏😏😏😏 very crazy😊😊😊
Problem with this is it only suits specific jobs, how does that cutter work using the "threaded" section at the end that stops it pulling out when your boss gives you a job that requires you to stick it out another 30mm?
This is a standard tool for all applications applicable... Meaning almost every job in my shop. The safe-lock grooves are great but you can also put it in regular holders.
@@TITANSofCNC I wouldn't mind giving one of those safe locks a try, I'm currently using a seco feed mill on my lathe, it screws into an "all in one" collet and balance nut to prevent pulling out aswell. Nice job by the way 👌
Thanks Alex.
I will post a video later in the week that goes over Holders etc.
@@TITANSofCNC and please talk about what is more rigid the bt40 or the hsk a63 or the big plus spindle please please
Works fine in a side lock, just did it at a customers shop 2 weeks ago.
2:45 what are 100 cubes? 100cubic feet I presume, but I have no idea about imperial units.
Cubic inches removed per minute
1 cubic inch is about 16.8 cc. So 100 cubic inch is 1680 cc of aluminium per minute. Times 3 ( density of aluminium ...) is about 5 kg of aluminium per minute removed....... That is insane!!!!!
@@TITANSofCNC You should check out Swedish seco. Their 490V250R050Z3.9A-MEGA-T end mil can perform around 200 cubic inches per minute in aluminium.
How does it perform in other non ferrous?
It’s made for Murdering Aluminum.
so it an end mill for roughing alu?
Yes
Prefect
Id like to try a 3/8 on my 770m!
Worked great.
Light Radial.
Deep Axial.
Small chips clear easily and the tool lasts
Sir i want to learn powermill can u plz help me ..
Academy.titansofcnc.com
Yeah I don’t machine aluminum unless I’m making a fixture. Show me an end mill that can do that with inconel 625, hasteloy c276, monel, or even something easy like titanium then I will be impressed.
Look at my Aerospace Academy section on this page... All Day!
Wow......
Can you make a video on, how to make a data recorder to find the tool life, depth of cut, feed rate, spindle,...
My Fadal won't rapid at that speed LOL.
You and Kennametal blow my mind....will a tormach 770 mill do this ipm for me on 6061, 1018, 4140? Love the Vlog. Booom!!!
This tool is just for aluminum and soft materials but I did run a 3/8 on my Tormach:-)
Like Titan said the only limitation will be your machine. He was getting those feedrates with a 40HP monster, your 1.5HP tormach will be much slower but will still handle feedrates that outpreform standard endmills.
Thanks Titan....and Tyler! Slower than DMG, faster than taig... 😅
4:47 crank it to 11
I don’t doubt that this is a good tool, butt I do want to argue if its the best tool! I think( I’m pretty sure) the “WNT ccr alu” has better removal rate
I easily posted over 100 cubes with 3/8 tool... and could have gone more.
Good rs
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1600" per minute feed right , because 1600cubic inches per minute just simply cannot be
Feed is at 1600 IPM
Cubes was at 180 for 1/2”
@@TITANSofCNC still very very high :D
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IMCO makes 5 flute end mills for aluminum that are just as good.
I can buy 4 3/8 cb 4 flutes for the price of one of those.... That's just not smart business
I don’t know why... but list price is 4X higher than the sale price.
3/8 go for $68.00 after discount.
That big ol end mill is probably $400 bucks easy. The holder with the spiral lock is a pretty decent investment too.
@@90foxmustang 16mm is 180,67€ where I live. And yes the holder with the spiral lock is a pretty decent investment too.
Sometimes the more expensive tool can save you money, there are more factors than just tool price.
AuszugsSicherung kopiert von #haimer.......
Traurig.
T. H. es ist von Haimer mit einer Lizenz
King of Roughing my ass... I can get a 3fl cutter going 1000IPM with a 25% radial at 3xD. Its about 60% of the feed rate, but 2.5x the radial step over and the cutter is a third of the price. Must be nice getting a kick back from Kennametal for advertising all of these over priced, under performing tools.
Me gusta mucho su programa , pero estoy dejando de verlo , porque muchos son alabanzas a ustedes mismos y sobre el dueño de la empresa.