Why Mercedes Upgrade Plan Is Working Super Effectively
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- Why Mercedes Upgrade Plan Is Working Super Effectively
Discover why Mercedes' upgrade strategy is proving highly effective in Formula 1. This video explores their recent advancements in suspension technology and other key upgrades that have contributed to their success. With Lewis Hamilton and George Russell behind the wheel, Mercedes has clinched victory in the last two races, showcasing their dominance on the track. Dive into the technical details and strategic decisions that have propelled Mercedes to the forefront of motorsport excellence. Stay tuned for insights into how these upgrades are shaping their championship aspirations! - กีฬา
Like James said to Ted in Imola, they have been snorting the white powder in Brackley
So like they tried in early wwii to make soldiers be able for shorter times to stay awake and alert?
Do you have a clip, mate?😭😭
Never in my life would I have thought that Keanu Reeves would talk about Mercedes Upgrades.
He's beginning to believe.
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Meh, I've seen him actually talk about brawn F1 before 😏
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I think Merc was doing one or two parts per GP to enable them to ensure that the car still correlates and moves in the right direction. Rather than chucking a ridiculous number of parts and something unknown not working, this probably allowed them to focus on and iterate on small things while also enabling them to throw more parts at it in subsequent races.
Like Ferrari.
you are correct. Andrew shovlin has actually stated specifically that they wanted to bring small packages at first to ensure they knew what was working and so that they would be able to easily tell if it correlated to their sims and windtunnel.
THIS!!!!!! is what Ferrari shouldve done instead of throwing everything on the car at once.
@@Alumnikiidnah Ferrari fast tracked extra parts instead of gradually adding things, and it set them in the wrong direction
Give James Alison his credit been saying he’s as good as newey but no one believes me
I think he changed A LOT since he came from Ferrari. He found environment that works for him and he said it 100x. Just like Newey liked RB, Alison thrives in Mercedes. To be honest I find him even better, and would chose him over Newey.
I personally cant agree purely because of what Newey has done over the years and the challenges he's had with his cars. For example Redbull long struggled with a very poor PU, Mercedes have never really had that struggle. I do think Alison is incredible, Newey aswell. But i cannot stress enough how these 2 people work with a whole fleet of talented people who also help massively in the development of the car who maybe brings ideas that neither Alison or Newey thought about
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No he is not😂
Alisson built the fastest f1 car in the history, no way to compare with any other
If you think about it, the w15 was a complete new concept, chassis and car.. For Them to catch up like they have done, is really : a job well done 🙂
Exactly. Once they really begin to focus on the underfloor then there's for sure to be a 3 way fight... Come on Ferrari, sort it out!
James Allison is a genius
It's amazing and exciting time. I watched an interview with James Allison on F1 channel not too long ago, where he talked about the car development. I remember he said something like: "It’s not that we have discovered something new, but rather, we thought, how could we have been so dumb?🤦♂" which suggests that they have finally cracked the direction they need to go and it reflects in the results.
I always felt that Lewis did mistake by choosing Ferrari, when Allison got back.
Nah Lewis has nothing left to prove and wanted to check off driving for Ferrari before retiring, it was an easy choice for him probably
@@juaneerso you’re saying if Mercedes were winning the championship with Lewis, Lewis would still leave Mercedes for Ferrari ?
@@maisonfitnesss for a Mercedes to be in that position, the performance would have been different last year, Hamilton would have never announced he's leaving.
@@juaneer exactly my point! Would he have left if mercs were winning ? No he wouldn’t because he wants his 8th! Also he’s not going to Ferrari because he just eants to retire there, he always wants a better car to win his 8th
@@maisonfitnesss he wants both, you and I know Hamilton will be done with the sport well before 2030. Ferrari has an equally good chance of getting the 2026 engine regs right as Mercedes, he'll be fine.
Another site said the blister on the nose is there to accommodate the increased the size of the suspension arms and changing the heave spring which has reduced oscillating and made the suspension more stable and predictable. Maybe this is what James Allison was referring to that something that was obvious but they overlooked was what caused problems in 22&23?
When the season started first 5 races i thought again it'll be an boring season, but its getting even interesting the more races happen. Next year i expect it'll be like 2021
we could have a 3-way title fight between max, lando, and george. that woudl be amazing to witness
@@Gamurboi but George is good only in quali so if he doesn't have a dominant car , even in competitive car he can't win, we saw it this season
@@No-Name360 he just needs to be more consistent, same with lando imo, this can be improved on throughout this season
@@Gamurboi lando is good , but his own strategy and team strategy is bad
Good analysis 👍
I always knew James Allison will wake up Mercedes again..... And we saw what Hamilton can do when he has a decent car.....
Aston come on make a comeback already!!!
I believe the new front end ‘third element’ is a large Belleville washer type damper now, with dampening fluid pressurized between the washers. This makes it both a damper and highly linear and more predictable sprung device
I’m still hyped about HAAS and feel bad for Steiner 😂 I liked the guy
What if zero pod returns now that they have the floor figured out? /s
Great content. Neo on F1.👍
Kudos for the effort in making high quality videos, it's showing 👍🏼
Glad i found this channel! Cheers for the content
I believe James Allison was able to figure Cheatbulls trick. Obviously McLaren figured it out earlier this season. Game on now.
Hello there been following you recently enjoy your work,i think the Mercedes is the fastest can on the grid now..
We are so fucking back.
It broke my heart to see alot of people lose faith in mercedes while the haters gloated over there downfall. I for one never lost faith in my favorite team and it feels so good to see all there hard work pay off as they propel themselves to the front of the grid again. Can't wait to see the the rest of the season and I'm even more excited to see what they can bring to the table in 2025 😊
Exactly man, mercedes is known for their engineering. Feel so happy that they are finally there
I’m proud of Merc bc they didn’t wait for the 2026 regs to start winning again.
Your videos are getting better all the time. Well done to you, keep up the excellent work. You are now my go-to for the latest in the development race, a nice little niche you have found!
Love the Keanu banter in the chat too! 😂
yesterday i was amazed (as usual) by the quality of your analysis videos
but today i am once again amazed by the frequency of your analysis videos!
im so glad you're using this break before Hungary to really break down what's gone on during the triple header, there's a lot to unpack and you're absolutely killing it
keep on cooking!!
Thank you my friend ❤️
I think is important to understand the car you start the year with...the data from testing is crucial...i really hope more testing is allowed for 2026 cars
Love the detailed videos.
Mercedes always has a suspension trick, it's gotta be something that optimizes the front.
Some intresting fact Merc actually get pole at Hungary at 2022 & 2023 even though their car is terrible. Im not saying they will be on pole this year but Hungary and mercedes have some intresting relationship
Yeah, but the concept of the car previous 2 years was a lot different than this year, they were faster in slow speed corners which Hungary have a lot. This year they are fast everywhere for every kind of circuit.
@@ChacheKurteAlso Lewis loves Hungary
@@Don-Royall he's hungry for sure
I was looking forward to this video! Cheers! 😊
Taking what we've seen from Mercedes together with what we've heard from Redbull... I think it's pretty clear that one very important part of this regulation set is using suspension tricks to manipulate the ride height to get the most out of the floor.
Need a video on George Russell's driving style - plus his qualifying versus his race pace. Why he can't manage tyres like Lewis can.
If the car is able to lower itself then wouldn't that be a type of "Active suspension " ?
Take Max out of that RB and it’s a midfield player.
Lewis’ win at Silverstone was amazing, if you have a plan which gives you access to Driver cams with unedited team radio go back and rewatch Lewis on the last couple laps, it was heart warming once he crossed that line how emotional he was over the radio.
If your looking for info on the driver cooling vents and you have F1 TV Pro they did a episode on them in Tech Talk.
More than anything having James back where he belongs is the biggest upgrade Mercedes really needed. With that said what ever he is doing is working. I’m thinking that by next year if Allison stays in this old role Merc will definitely be fighting RedBull for wins and maybe even a championship.
Antonelli has it laid out man can't bottle his chances of winning a championship as a rookie if he is touted as the verstappen
@@pavanshetty6969 agreed
RB is already in trouble for the constructor's this year
Mate, I think this car is probably mercs greatest achievement, they've built a seriously competitive car without an inherited engine advantage, for the 1st time. Hats off to everyone at merc ❤
there were other teams using their engine so it wasn't the engine advantage that gave them 8 titles ...
You people eat that engine advantage bullshit up quickly.
Having a powerful engine doesnt mean you can win anything in F1.
You also need top tier aerodynamic design and development.
Mclaren, Racing Point(now Aston Martin), and Williams have been using Mercedes engines for so many years.
Yet theyve been no where during the previous generation of cars (pre 2022)
They haven't had a massive engine advantage since 2015. Ferrari figured the engine out over the winter in 2014 and from that point on there was at least one engine more or less on par with Mercedes. Give their aero engineers some credit.
Please make a video on Aston Martin B spec car coming for next gp
I will :)
Genuine question regarding the “cooling” system Mercedes are using. How does it work effectively if there are no openings for air to go through? How can it effectively cool the car and driver down if there are a bunch of mechanical parts in the way? I can see one of the big teams challenge this upgrade to the FIA.
This is exactly why it isn’t cooling :)
James Alison has prove that he greatest cheif technical director he had already proved that in W11 and W12 Toto wolff is the great CEO and team principal of Mercedes and our favourite Lewis hamilton greatest of all time ❤
Do you think Redbull have a major update planned or are they bidding their time to keep development for next years car? considering how far ahead max is on points. Thanks as always.
So their biggest performance gain has come from a type of dampening/suspension thingamebob and not from aero including their so called super flexy front wing. Which means now they can play with the aero because they can run the car super low without bouncing/porpoising
Feeling that the McLaren with the new updates is a step back. Their strenght was always their tyre wear, in silverstone norris was nowhere near lewis in the end with lap times while both were on the softs and pushing. Even piastri wasn’t quicker then Max on new meds.
This page keeps getting better. Any thoughts on bringing an occasional second person. I feel podcasts benefit from having an extra person to banter with. Just my humble thoughts
I do want to at some point. Who would you like too see?
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Nico Roseburg
@F1Unchained kyle engineer (I can't tag) . He was from my understanding an Aero-Engineer at Merc for a while and currently working in this field for multiple series.
There is a technical side and understanding that is explained simply and clearly.
Mark my words, zero pods will be back.
I think so!, maybe 25 or part of team's last update this season
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I’ve been saying the same thing that once the suspension is sorted, the narrowing of the side pod will become the main priority! 💯
Since 2026 is basically reliant on inwash, Mercedes could move the W16 in that direction with Zero-Pods
Honesty since this new ground effect area everybody knows the Redbull secret is in the suspension. They do it legally or not we don't know,but what we know they are able to keep the floor always at ideal ride height from the track. They have something in the suspension which always adjust self to the optimum ride height ,so doesn't matter if the car is empty or super heavy. Teams knows that a very long time, but obviously they didn't know how the Redbull do it since it would be illegal any electronic, hydraulic solution, but they do it legally (FIA allowed). The McLaren figured out first and now the Mercedes also playing with suspension. Lets see if Aston also got something similar in Hungary...
meanwhile ferrari's bold claim at beginning of the season, "changing suspension layout won't give significant impact".
now every single upgrade will bring more confusion and even bring back the ancient porpoising problem. embarasing.
Do you feel confident that if MER look good in FP1 and FP2 that it will correlate to the Sunday race? Thanks!
I don’t think anyone in the F1 world except for me maybe, can sense that Mercedes is about to dominate the 2nd half the season or end of the season.
Their Suspension geometry shows the limitations of the pullrod in any configuration. Redbull and McLaren can’t do nothing about until it’s change and that’s until….unfortunately 2026.
Does Ferrari falling back, due to porpoising, now prove it is RB’s suspension layout or nothing? The beginning of the season seemed to prove that wrong, but now no, especially given what Ferrari is struggling with.
something i only noticed recently that the W15 floor, especially the upper surface of it shaping in a low profile mountain shape. with its apex right at the middle of the sidepod. but my eyes could be deceiving me.
usually/normally it would look like a "valley". that have the middle part sits the lowest. this time the middle part bulging up. which i believe has nothing to do with the contour of the lower surface of the floor. which led me to think it must be to SLOW down the flow going to that channel under the sidepod bulge. creating a "chokepoint" . which is coherent to how ground effect floor panel should be treated. contrary to the initial concept of the mercedes W 13.
that "chokepoint" would hold up the flow and let the flow under the floor flows faster in deficit to the flow over the floor panel. this is the same treatment that the redbull have been using since the beginning of the ground effect seasons.
not sure what inside that bulge on the nosecone. most likely about something, a pivot point of a "rocker" that must sits higher, or something like that, to produce certain behaviour or certain movement range of the wishbones.
while lowering the anchor point of the front's second wishbone, the bone that sits closer to the sidepod intake, is to shift the wishbone moving angle slightly rearwards. the effect : that car will transfer its velocity into front load to the suspension BETTER when the car is decelerating/braking. providing better front bite when using a chassis with a MUCH rearwards of standing weight distribution.
Mercedes thinks outside the box when it's comes to ideas on upgrades. Also, I think their development plan is only just beginning. Red bull and Mclaren seam to hitting a peak in concept but mercedes are just at the start, it should be worry for others how quickly they have caught up given how little the developed in the first 6 gps. Hungary will be very warm gp, so we will see if they have improved in hotter conditions, currently projected as being 31c for the weekend.
Merc is building a rocketship again. Max has to go to Merc.
The key for Mercedes is adding new parts in small steps, limiting the changing variables on the car. This way they managed to fix the correlation between the simulations and the real life performance. That was the main problem Mercedes struggled with and the main reason why it took so long for them to not being able to improve or reinvent the car.
Variable rate heave damper, as the load increases rate rises to stop bottoming and porpoising, creates more stable platform
Can you make a video about Ferrari's failed upgrades?
Nice to see your channel grow with subscribers bud 👍
Started seeing this circulating around on X about 5 days ago, and more people are taking about it. Hats off to the team at Mercedes for never giving up. Still wondering if this was what had them say "how could we have been so stupid?" Maybe not, but they are making huge gains.
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I try to :)
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Great videos mate, honestly the most informative f1 channel. I don't know how many hours you put into these videos but I imagine it's a hell of a lot. It is much appreciated and keep up the great work 👍
Thank you my friend this makes me very happy
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Mercedes has demonstrated their ability to rapidly develop their car, outpacing all other teams. Having now grasped the nuances of the new regulation era, I anticipate they will be the fastest car in the latter half of the season.
Yeah they've been almost the opposite of Ferrari who came in strong, but have had a hard time in development
Apparently the Ferrari is porpoising because their downforce upgrades were a bit too effective for the suspension to handle. Considering that the suspension is integral to the chasis design and cannot be easily changed, does this imply that we are going to see Ferrari struggle for a while yet?
Great video mate. MB have been constantly chipping away at the block to the derision of content creators. But I think their efforts are starting to deliver fruit. The thing with this approach, is that we are likely to see a steady progression that will see this car competing closer and closer to the front. It isalso development that has largely gone "undetected" by the opposition and now that the results are now starting to be felt on the track, confidence in the team will grow. Promises some interesting outcomes going forward. Other teams went on the copy/paste method, MB seem to have data searched the remedy. Both are valid though as we have seen with Mclaren. My only concern with Mclaren is whether they now have data enough to keep pace.
Very well said my friend
I think they've somehow reinvented the mass damper without it appearing to be a mass damper.
I wonder what the zero pod would be like if it was able to run this low
Yes yes John Wick this is great but we're still waiting for a 50k celebration video. We want to know your name and what your background is for how you got so knowledgeable. All delivered in a John Wick suit
It’s coming just preparing some stuff for it
Yep Im one of those people that said "Mercedes will not get a win on any track" but they prove me wrong. 😑 😅
I had no faith in them, i gotta give them credit on such a huge turn around
I didn't believe them before because they were not solving the problem but just creating a propaganda bubble.
awesome content my guy!
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Thanks Kermit. Great vid again.
0:50 Ofcourse man, you deserve All of it
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I think it’s a monster sized heave damper running in parallel with the normal heave damper. The normal damper is just normal 🤔 The monster damper is set to be activated a millimeter or less before the car reaches the ride height where it starts porpoising. Obviously it is set to have its damping at its maximum at the frequency of porpoising. If it’s as humongously powerful and big as I believe it to be, then it will obviously need to be cooled a lot which will make the statement about cooling right. Next updated could then be a less severe and more compact solution for the rear axle. I know I am probably rambling, but hey it’s great to let one’s phantasy run wild 😃 Greetings from Denmark
Loved hearing about it my friend
We believe that the Mercedes teams biggest gain has come from their 'Wind Tunnel' analysis program being upgraded to improve design results & refinement.
Ever since the Mercedes team dropped the ball, in 2022, by making the wrong driver combination choice, all F1 fans were shocked & disappointed to see the teams very slow recovery caused by team arrogance refusing to accept that their data analysis systems was not giving them accurate feedback.
The Alpha Romeo model on your shelf is wonky and it’s really bugging me 😂 Great content as usual dude 👌
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You’re always around man. It really does mean a lot
Nice outro animation
Damn bro not even a minute and 6 comments already, bro making numbers
First, forget about George winning races now. Lewis is back, so George is gonna have to really be on his game! Lewis winning Silverstone has blown through his lack of confidence in himself, so he's now going to be tough to beat!😊
Bro the upgrade news are great and much appreciated and all…. But what i want to know is what hair product do you use man, i mean damn my hair is long and doesnt look like that
This man knows his stuff! 💯
Love your channel brother! 🫡
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My only concern is whether this upgrade from Mercedes will be called illegal by the FIA?
I highly doubt it
Meanwhile Ferrari: Lost 3 months of development time
However there is a big move in Ferrari, when the "fired" Enrico Cardile and sent him to Aston Martin, the Ferrari's aerodynamic department is empty.... Who will comes? I think Adrian Newey is on way...
But I do think that the 3 months can be rechieved and be turned around.
@@spy6115 depends if they can gain pace magically out of nowhere then good . But looking at mercedes who gained their pace slowly it's safe to say that they will probably not be able to get back to the top in time. Also Ferrari doesn't have a great history for in season development
Mercedes will become fastest team by the end of the summer break
f1 is f1 again
Mercedes upgrades are finally working and Ferrari took a step back is why I think Mercedes are doing good. If Ferrari fix thier upgrade I could see Mercedes drop back to 4th best team
Not with James Allison in charge mate. No chance mercedes drop back to fourth best team. They'll be the fastest team very soon.
@@davidoconnor3201people have been saying Mercedes is back at the front since 2022 mate. Not gonna happen
@@imkingelijah2022 and 2023 seasons they had a false concept of the car 2022 with no side pods and 2023 with the zero pods, this year they have a lot more competitive car and easier to make changes and upgrades. And of course James Allison is the old/new technical director. The man who gave Lewis Hamilton 9 consecutive mighty cars. They are looking great and upgrades are coming every weekend.
@@ChacheKurte 8 cars*
@@ChacheKurte What about Nico and our lovely BotASS? :(
I guess Ferrari wishes they took the slow but steady upgrade pace like this instead of what they did
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves, Mercedes is only the third fastest car at the moment. Mercedes is my team and they’ve made a great step forward, but they’re not quite at the front yet.
Mercedes' winning conditions are actually the same as those of McLaren and Ferrari. Solving the problem of car development is the first and foremost fundamental. The first and most important thing is to develop the platform, that is, the chassis itself. The second step is the rear suspension problem, and there are not many solutions here. Some compensation plans need to be made. The third step is to increase the downforce of the car so that the car has enough cornering grip.
As long as the problem is solved, it is not a problem to beat Red Bull. The current development progress is actually not extreme enough. There is a cost ceiling limit. Otherwise, everything will be much faster. It should have happened in the 2023 season. Red Bull's ability to solve problems is actually declining, and they have ignored the most important engineer, and Nuremberg is very important for car development. He is an important engineer. Red Bull cannot win by Verstappen alone.
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Will Aston Martin also have this suspension upgrade in Hungary?
I hope
I said on Sunday Lewis will get the win in Budapest as well. :-)
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The track conditions in Budapest are close to those in Monaco, so Mercedes just needed to get pole position.
Does anyone with extensive Formula 1 history know the last time a team made upgrades this frequently?
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Yes, John Wick
I feel that Mercedes still has the slower concept but they understand their car far better than say Ferrari who we know has a fast car, but they clearly don’t understand it due to the lack of working upgrades
No the Mercedes has the much better platform due to the seating and suspension geometry. The usage of no Pullrod allows the Mercedes have more consistent downforce no matter the corners and could have the suspension to be set much softer vs the other teams.
RB, Ferrari and McLaren have to make their Pull-Rod stiff to make in it dive and lift. And it’s possible it causes issues. For RB and McLaren it’s slow speed Pullrod front, for Ferrari it’s High Speed, Pull-Rod rear.
@@Shea-austin Interesting insight. I guess it makes sense though as Mercedes is already able to run their car super low so now they have the added benefit of stability through corners and over bumps, which is of course what some teams like Red Bull have suffered with.
I believe some teams also run hybrids though, no? Ferrari is said to have pull-rod at the read and push-rod at the front, and Red Bull are the opposite. And Haas uses Ferrari suspension and has been performing quite well.
At this point in the development cycle of these ground effect cars I feel it’s honestly whatever you can make work best. McLaren has a super super good all round stable car and they’re on pull-rod, but Red Bull has a hybrid and still struggles over intense bumps. I doubt that we’ll see a change in suspension concept from other teams this close to new regs but maybe some will follow the full push rod approach
I agree, in 2026 it’s moving towards and in-wash rather than the outwash design that was intended in these current regulations. The Mercedes was already very good with in wash designs of the W10, W11, W12.
The W13 concept could very well make a return, but a more refined philosophy. Note that the W13 had a lot of downforce, but I don’t think that was due to the floor, but rather its aero concept.
I think Mercedes could very well be dominant very soon this season, and proved it wasn’t just the engine that made them great.
Can u do a video on Ferraris problems although new ARB are coming in spa to help with bouncing
Added room for the shocks of the car seems like a good trade-off in the ground-effect era 😊 regulating the ride height meticulously was illustrated by Red Bull in Monaco as something to be desired. (Sorry, Red Bull - I respect you 🙏) Great video! 👌
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I bet Lewis is probably regretting signing for Ferrari now
I think, the front wing flexing cost them to slow speed cornering.
Hamilton putting these solutions into his memory bank to take to Ferrari for winter development.
The most useful pimple ever lol
7:30 Do you think other teams are gonna protest this? If they do, is it possible they can get this banned? Also, Lewis was the strongest in the slow speed corners at Silverstone, and the Hungaroring has a lot of slow speed corners, plus it’s one of Lewis’ strongest tracks. Do you think the conditions are coming together for back to back Lewis wins? Also, which cars/drivers do you think will be the strongest at the Hungaroring?
I don’t think they will protest this as I’m assuming Red Bull has probably had something like this done early in the regs. I do think Hungary can be very strong
I think Merc will have an advantage in the latter half of the season. The car seems so planted.