It would have been greatly improved that's for sure. I might be one of the few people that actually enjoyed playing in WoD, but that doesn't mean that I think it was a great expansion. Personal favorite is wrath tbh.
@@theashenverdict1629 I enjoyed it too, but I also am into Orc lore, and play mostly Orc characters. So seeing Draenor before it was destroyed and seeing the Orcish clans as they used to be was awesome.
@@hirumaredx and instead they gave us skirmishes? It's like promising a homeless man a great place to stay, when there weather is too rough to survive, but instead build a real estate agency so he can dream about how a good place to live in looks like.
I guess if we had just one more raid with perhaps 2-3 bosses it would be more OK but from the announcement I wanted grommash as a boss but not final maybe in the previous raid of hellfire where we brace for the legion expansion or if they were commenting it in different way yh maybe then grommash last boss
@@xZyrux Absolutely agree with you. I feel like it just did not have enough content, and alot of garrison ideas were thrown out. I feel like they needed to be designed better in a way where we weren't isolated all the time. Trade chat should have been removed, and there should definitely been a hard cap on some things. Like farming herbs in garrison without ever leaving your garrison. Or making gold from the missions. I knew people that spent the entire expansion in their garrisons lol. Like maybe a 1 week reset on your herbs before you were able to farm them again from your garrison. Something from preventing you from doin nothing but garrison facebook farming. And not such a huge gold incentive from the missions either. Legion had it right with class order halls though. That was so much better than garrisons. Basically us warriors in our warrior hall, and all you other players can go away until we decide to raid or pvp lol.
I would argue it was worse for casual players. The raids were the good parts of WoD, everything that would have made the game awesome for casual players got cut. There was nothing to do but grinding Apexis Crystals...
Why do I remember vividly that on my first kill of Kargath he ran away like in the beta? I don't recall doing any beta testing for WoD. The week after when he was there on the floor instead of just his Bladefist I was only like "hmm, that's weird"
@@longlivemonzy2861 Nope he's right, I can bouch for him. Kargath did indeed ran away from that fight after you beat him when the raid opened up. It was QUICKLY patched, but that thing was a change on the Live Servers, it did hit Live, then it was VERY QUICKLY changed.
To be honest, with all the cut content in past warcraft expansions and a good chunk being area's we've yet to visit. I can easily see them just grabbing a bunch of these and making an expansion based on it. The Ogre isle being an easy new race location for ogres and the underground caves of northrend being another.
my will to play wow was cut since WoD... then classic arrived and i got it back... but then min-max shenaningans, carry, boosting, etc. happened... also still waiting for Thrown weapons history :V
Early on, I think when WoD was first announced, I remember reading the pet menagerie was gonna allow you to breed battle pets, and this is how we'd get epic quality pets. Never saw it mentioned again after that.
Whenever i think of blizzard cutting content...WoD immediately comes to mind. I recall being very upset seeing just how utterly gutted WoD felt. It simply was no where even close to being ready. It was clear they shifted allot of the resources away from wow to other projects. After watching the video, i cant help but believe that...blizzard just absolutely lied about wod from the start.
Kargath running away did hit live wow. It was changed ASAP, but he did ran away in the very first itineration of the raid ON LIVE (not only on PTR). this change was never documented, but I remember it clearly, all of my guildies got confused the second time we beat him, it was a really really fast and stealthy change on the lore.
I do too, this video is an exception though. I wanted something that would be easy to link to people if I ever wanted to talk about WoD in future videos
@@hirumaredx you know, this man be the fan I. Me or not but I haven’t really been dissatisfied by any video you’ve made so far. Either I find it humorous or insightful. Plus, they give me something to listen to in the background while I’m at work. :).
I appreciate this being shared! It confirms a lot of misty suspicion... and brings some sadness. What could have been had corporate not decided to trash the development process. I suppose some investors needed more in their quarterly dividend right then... and that tradition of lower development standards continued. I'm glad I picked Lord of the Rings Online for my gaming time instead.
Blizzard: "Let's make an expansion about uncorrupted orcs, with Grom Hellscream as the final boss." Also Blizzard: "LOL, just kidding, the orcs get corrupted by demons and the final boss is Archimonde, LMAO."
I joined 13 days before wod. My first ever expansion. I made it to cap without my friend who recruited me a day before it came out. I will always have fond memories of it despite the no content.. I just never really remembered how much was actually cut
awesome video. i was expecting one of 'em "apology" videos [iceland pony's is my favorite] but this is much better. and i wish frostfire was purple and not this desolace of draenor garrison hellhole depression syrup
Man I remember being so hyped up for WoD the launch time for me was perfect I was home from Alaska I had the next few months off of work I had nothing but time to play and then launch day happened...
from what i took from that blizzcon, they wanted to make WoD a solo content, which was the only way you could move your garrisons where you wanted, which is why it was scrapped and pulled half the development, it wasn't working because it would require a lot of instancing and would remove the immersion of being an mmo, and more of a rpg expansion, which would've had a huge backlash, garrisons could've worked if they just made garrisons a personal instanced zone made only for you to explore aside from the world zones, garrisons should've been endgame content, not an expansion feature
Even though WoD had so much cut content.. it was still better than BFA and SL. Theme of WoD was excellent, raids and dungeons were so nice, and classes were good.
The BG "Heroes through time" as well, or maybe that is smallBGc? Heroes through time was basically one horde horde base and one Alliance base facing each other with three roads and ogre PH's.
I can't believe 6.1, usually a new raid tier patch, launched with the defining features of a selfie camera and new blood elf models. WoD could have been great.
WoD was the last time i had fun in WoW actually. even tho much was cutted. It had the potential to be the best xpac but Blizz scrapped it as usual. Damn trial of the gladiator would be so awesome in retail.. but anyway im done with the game.
Agreed, I absolutely loved WoD, but it was the last time I truly enjoyed playing WoW. Classes actually felt unique and different, and the story and gameplay elements we did get were amazing.
@@SharpTony yeah and i was huge in PvP and PvE. Had tons of fun in Ashran. Now its an BG which is laggy as hell even with lesser people and is degraded to a zergfest.
there was also speculation that the garrison buildings could be customized with racial (and death knight style) architecture. it's a shame that this expansion never unleashed its full potential.
@@Alex-dc2bp she killed herself few days ago, and not in 2015, you know? And why should we care? A LOT of humans kill themselves, but if it's a woman, then it's important?
@@SMILE53335 Last time I checked, people cared about anyone that killed themselvest, when they find out about it. I for certain would be sad if I heard someone killed themselves over sexual abuse, regardless of their gender. It's called empathy.
what makes a brand good is after u start making promisses，u will follow and complete those promisses，not give up the second u realized it cost too much money，time or attention to do it（and finishing it）. what make a company a brand that people won't hate is that u don't make ur plan become lies and u don't lie about ur plan. what make blitzzard turns into shithole is that u don't know what players want，u don't know what u want but money，u don't know what u are capable of and most importantly u have too much ego to sit down and listen but u never have enough passion to fix things quick
I really hope that if the Classic Servers Continue, when we reach WoD we get WoD+ from the start instead of normal WoD. So much potential and stuff that could be added.
i would like a WotlK+ but that would never happen, making old content work again in the new systems is one thing, but activision will never greenlight making new content for it.
Man I was so excited for WoD back in the day because of so many of these empty promises I wish at the very least we got the ability to move our Garrison, I still use mine for the auctioneer to this day on my non engineers
Blizzard had their A team working on Titan for the entire early 2010s, while they started to let wow slip. I'm convinced wow fell so hard because of all the time wasted with their best developers...
I’m convinced it was because of making the game easier all the way since TBC. TBC Andys don’t want you to believe it, but everything from overpowered gear from quests, elite quests nerfed, earlier mount, more gold and many others paved the way for heirlooms, LFD and the other shit that ruined the RPG aspect.
We all KNEW WoD had the seeds of greatness. We all saw it! I mean damn, if they hadn't have gone public they could have spent as many years on the expansion as they wanted...
What they really should have done on WoD and next expansions is just implement GUILD garrison that You can build pretty much anywhere (or might be a little restricted with some nodes) in any continent. There as a guild You would take as a COMMUNITY to build it, getting all the resources You need and taking it there. Garrison would be public cuz let's just be honest, there is enough place for all the guilds and if there wouldnt be, You could just take the auction system from AION online to buy the place. All this would give You a chance for siege system also with no fly restriction.
Cataclysm and MoP may have started a population decline in WoW, but it was WoD that really should have clued us in that the old Blizzard is truly dead and buried. But many of us just didn't want to pay attention to the red flags... We didn't pay attention...
I hope Blizzard can bring that entire thing back. I still loved WoD, but if they ever brought a similar expansion back, or made a classic WoD, maybe they can insert those ideas.
This is what they did with Warcraft Reforged. Regardless if they intended to or not, they flat out lied to the consumers about the product they were selling. Completely falsified the product they were selling, made the investors happy, but the players left with a “what the fuck is this?”
I'd rather them implement what they said they would and see how it goes, like garrisons in any zone, I played all of WoD and never knew that I woulda loved that feature! So much was cut and for no reason, I'd rather have a 5 year xpac with QoL, fun, challenging content than a 2 year xpac cycle
it seems wod was the tipping point internally at blizzard where they decided that they arent passionate enough anymore or that its simply not worth it to put in enough effort to create the best quality game they dropped and scrapped so much content after revealing it in blizzcon, thats the stuff they couldnt put in or couldnt be bothered to implement in time, otherwise they wouldnt have revealed it at all makes me so sad thinking about what could have been
Alternative video title: What WoD Could Have Been Had Blizzard Not Tried to Push For Yearly Xpacs Honestly, they were trying _so_ hard to force a yearly xpac cycle, and it completely ruined at least WoD, and maybe even the end of MoP. (13 months of Siege of Org with no new content, oof)
If the garrison were account bound and you could only have professions in it that you had leveled up on mains/alts....Garrison was just a great idea done in the worst way
I hate that blizzard will talk about things as if they are going to happen when really they are just ideas. I quit wow 6 months ago after 13 years of playing and I don't regret it.
And every time the bald guy was talking about some new aspects of the game, Ion was laughing his ass off deep inside saying smth like " Yeah, right" or "We ll see about that mofo".
It was unironicly my favourite launch because of the insane levels of hype, high quality content and questing... The raids on mythic were amazing too! Then the selfiepatch with twitter came out and I went into the 5 stages of grief. It was really a solid foundation for a really good expansion that could have explored more things about the Ogre's, Draenei and the Orc clans and just completely lacked a proper expansion patch cycle. It's like Shadowlands would end on patch 9.1.
@Keith it's still not worse than bfa. All the systems in WoD COULD have worked. Azerite/corruption was NEVER going to work, nor were islands and piss easy war fronts
@@ZiqpY if they would have just plopped a new zone new raid and dungeon right in the middle of that drought it would have been remembered more fondly ...even if it wasnt main story focused since archimond was dead already
@@xadamx94 bfa was pretty good. it's droughts that kill these games and bfa had a lot of stuff to do that was fun or interesting. we the players are going to make it work to kill the bosses regardless. but we need new stuff every 5 months to do
I remember on my walk home from school stopping by the food court in the mall by my house to get a slice of pizza and talk with my brother about all the cool stuff WoD was gonna bring... 3 days in I quit wow for nearly 2 years.
@@TheEiric Highmail was increadibly good too, i mean the content we got was great. The problem with WoD was there was too little content, not that the content itself sucked.
@@DustGamezX yh I think the same. I wanted shattrath to be a raid in a patch with farahlon, tanaan being endgane zone at 6.0 and maybe all the grommash stuff happening in the zone at the bottom left where probably legion appears and the capture him after he is almost dead and then turning some efforts of the iron horde of fighting back into dust and then having hellfire citadel. You know grommash and then hellfire as the last raid and some redesigned things in draenor and the use maybe of some very small islands where fhere are portal etc. To conclude the content was great it was just little
Agreed. Garrison's were a flop, but everything outside of the garrison's were incredible. The story,, the zones, the dungeons, the raids. Heck, even Ashran was fun to do and made getting full PvP gear easy. The BIGGEST problem with WoD, was the drought. There wasn't enough content, too much was cut.
Definitely! WoD started out amazing! One of the best leveling experience ever had and it was new too. Garrisons we’re fun but I guess they couldn’t find any content that will actually work. Now, they’ll throw anything at us without even listening.
Like WoD took place in an alternate universe, we currently exist in a universe where greed and ineptitude made WoD the worst expansion of all time. Blizzard has gotten progressively worse and worse and expansions have not improved much since. We got the bad ending.
I was in a job interview, the guy asked me what i did in my spare time and i told him i play wow and he legit asked me if i liked the new expansion (wod) and i said yeah, i really like it! And be just stared at me for a solid 30sec before we kept going, i didnt get the job
probably i will do the same of the of the interviewer, just stare at you with a deep disappointment and then just remove you of the selection process. ( sorry not sorry )
Why would you want to work for a clown anyways? WoD wasn't bad just short. Most bashing on it never played it. WoW community bunch of fakers and hacks.
I mean thats basically the story of Blizzard. It was one of the most respected companies that seemingly was not able to make a bad game, until they suddenly stopped? I mean wtf
You know, I never really thought about the fact that we fought on a moving train in that dungeon... but there were no train tracks anywhere in the zone. Huh. xD
@@M18_CRYMORE That's really common in game design, actually. Whenever you have the chance to make the environment move instead of the player, take it. Makes physics engines less buggy.
The problem which each expansion is that as soon as its nearly finished they already start work on the next expansion rather then finishing everything that's promised. They are too focused on pushing out expansions rather then giving a complete immersive world.
who was that chode that decided that again. pretty sure they decided to do it on their own rather than a decision by activision. activision needs to fucking get a grip on blizz studios lmao. we've seen magic activision can shit out with sheer monetary investment (trust me bobby is a literal god in his work). it's time to tap into that for overwatch, wow, etc. straight get another studio involved. maybe even slap down a few studios in canada again for the cheap production and high levels of good emplyees. so instead of waiting 5 fucking years for overwatch 2 we wait 2. instead of waiting 7 month for a wow patch we get one every 3. etc.
Nah the problem is new expansions just ditch everything from the previous expansion to give us some new broken system that people will hate until it's fixed in patch X.3.5. It's got to the point they are adding individual (crap) systems every patch now let alone per expansion! If they took every complete system they've ever created and updated them for the new expansion the game might feel good again. They'd still need to kill the real money Token to stop the PTW boost meta though which lets be honest is what's keeping WoW afloat ATM. Time for WoW to die at this point though. No king rules forever.
They pump expansions out because that's the games lifeline. Every expansion release sees millions of players return after they'd quit, not only buying box price but also sub. Even Shadowlands was the most sold PC game ever for a small amount of time.
I think WoD was the CRUSH that happend when Blizzard development ideas met a budget set by Activison and they had to cut insane.. and maybe devs working on other games too... and Legion is only as good as it is because lots of devs saw it as their goodbye present and I guess worked lots of overtime..
I read this as I heard them saying that Grommash was gonna be the last boss. That’s exactly what I thought was gonna happen in WoD too, but now I see why it could be that Legion was made. You might be right about Legion!
You also have to think about how Blizzard spends their time making content. Since expansions come out every 2 years or so, some of that time has to go into the next expansion, they are not fully dedicating each of those full 2 years to a single expansion and its content. If Blizz did it any other way, WoD would have probably been a lot better than it turned out to be.
Can we please for the love of god stop with the "it's all Activisions fault" stuff. The companies merged in 2008. WoD came out in 2014. WOTLK, Cata and MoP all released after the merger.
Can you please do more of these? I never knew Blizzard blatantly promised features that they never introduced. I already hate Shadowlands and solely play Classic TBC. Thanks for the excellent content.
@@hirumaredx Classic has mountains on the cutting room floor. Much of it forgotten about to this day. So many secretly places on the Classic game that never got their chance to shine, in some places entire zones like Azshara.
one of the big ones that they even mocked players about was the Dance Studio, which was supposed to be a LAUNCH feature of Wrath of the Lich King and included in almost every bit of promotion leading up to the expansion's release, before simply vanishing.
I honestly feel like shadowlands was ok. It just lacked content. But there was no promised content really that was lacked. Shadowlands definitely needed more content though in my op. Shadowlands also had alot of really bad design decisions. Forcing everyone to move one zone to the next in a linear fashion. I mean, you had to practically have loremaster in order to do maldraxus from bastion. Then you needed maldraxxus loremaster in order to go to ardenweald. And so on. Man you needed all that to unlock dungeons and raids to. They never seemed to listen to any of the criticism this expansion either. Making all the covenants a 1 time choice was another thing, and making it so you couldn't swap them, was also bad. Like it just had so many bad decisions going on down the line. But the content it had was good. I had fun anyway. The frustrating thing, is, even now, it is still the same way. You still cannot quest freely. I always find it important to be objective. I guess I was one of those folks who did not straight up hate on shadowlands. I found things that were cool. And just did that stuff. I had a softspot for the maw. It is the most unique zone in the whole game. I felt all the zones were cool, ardenweald will always be my favorite though. Another bad decision here, but they took away everyone's mounts in the maw. I think if everyone had a mount down there, it would have been received better. I am also one of those folks who doesn't mind not being able to fly either. But it made no sense not to be able to us a regular 100 percent speed mount down there. What were they thinking. I liked this expansion for what it was though. Maldraxxus was like a huge throwback to wrath. With all this undead activity going on. Shadowlands had a boatload of untapped potential in my op. Sad to see where it actually went down though. Also I am sure there are facts that I missed to. As I am a casual 5 man and casual pvp/quester kind of a guy. But it could have been alot better.
If this content was in the game wod would be the best expansion ever
It would have been greatly improved that's for sure. I might be one of the few people that actually enjoyed playing in WoD, but that doesn't mean that I think it was a great expansion. Personal favorite is wrath tbh.
I was most surprised by the trial of the gladiator thing, seems to fix all the issues with arenas
@@theashenverdict1629 I enjoyed it too, but I also am into Orc lore, and play mostly Orc characters. So seeing Draenor before it was destroyed and seeing the Orcish clans as they used to be was awesome.
@@hirumaredx and instead they gave us skirmishes? It's like promising a homeless man a great place to stay, when there weather is too rough to survive, but instead build a real estate agency so he can dream about how a good place to live in looks like.
I guess if we had just one more raid with perhaps 2-3 bosses it would be more OK but from the announcement I wanted grommash as a boss but not final maybe in the previous raid of hellfire where we brace for the legion expansion or if they were commenting it in different way yh maybe then grommash last boss
WoD had really a huge potential. Just reading the list gives me a taste of defeat.
I enjoyed almost all the content in WoD, there just wasnt enough.
Raids were among the best, leveling and questing was awesome, dungeons were nice.
@@xZyrux Absolutely agree with you. I feel like it just did not have enough content, and alot of garrison ideas were thrown out. I feel like they needed to be designed better in a way where we weren't isolated all the time. Trade chat should have been removed, and there should definitely been a hard cap on some things. Like farming herbs in garrison without ever leaving your garrison. Or making gold from the missions. I knew people that spent the entire expansion in their garrisons lol. Like maybe a 1 week reset on your herbs before you were able to farm them again from your garrison. Something from preventing you from doin nothing but garrison facebook farming. And not such a huge gold incentive from the missions either.
Legion had it right with class order halls though. That was so much better than garrisons. Basically us warriors in our warrior hall, and all you other players can go away until we decide to raid or pvp lol.
WoD had so much potential. I remember being so hyped about going back to Draenor, seeing it in all its former glory with all the famous Orc leaders.
Dude. This expansion could have been like the best expansion ever. It was ok for what it had though.
Seems like everything they said was hypothetical. “Maybe” you “could” have this.
It sounded like they knew a lot of it would get scrapped.
Not really though, the whole part about Karabor and Bladespire isn't exactly something they say in a hypothetical way.
I actually didnt mind WOD (im a casual player). Its a shame how it ended up, there was so much potential.
I would argue it was worse for casual players. The raids were the good parts of WoD, everything that would have made the game awesome for casual players got cut. There was nothing to do but grinding Apexis Crystals...
Why do I remember vividly that on my first kill of Kargath he ran away like in the beta? I don't recall doing any beta testing for WoD.
The week after when he was there on the floor instead of just his Bladefist I was only like "hmm, that's weird"
Probably saw an early boss raid strategy video with beta footage. At least that's what's up with me
@@longlivemonzy2861 Nope he's right, I can bouch for him.
Kargath did indeed ran away from that fight after you beat him when the raid opened up.
It was QUICKLY patched, but that thing was a change on the Live Servers, it did hit Live, then it was VERY QUICKLY changed.
@@TheMaxCloud always nice to be told that you're not going insane :)
@@hellboy19991 yeah no worries I had exactly the same argument with a guildie at that time
Facerolling Kargath Bladefist as first boss in Highmaul on LFR was perhaps peak cringe from a story prospective.
WOOO I LOVE YOUR VIDS. I actually play your videos every night now to fall asleep to (hope that isn’t weird haha)
I use him for my anxiety so you're not alone lmao
@@ProfPuffOfficial his music in the background and his voice is just so great to listen to :)
I like how the bold guy is going on and on, and Ion with Metzen look at him like "shut the fck up dude, we don't have budget for that"
To be honest, with all the cut content in past warcraft expansions and a good chunk being area's we've yet to visit. I can easily see them just grabbing a bunch of these and making an expansion based on it.
The Ogre isle being an easy new race location for ogres and the underground caves of northrend being another.
I think would be great
my will to play wow was cut since WoD... then classic arrived and i got it back... but then min-max shenaningans, carry, boosting, etc. happened...
also still waiting for Thrown weapons history :V
If they do a Classic WoD one day, I hope they add everything that was cut
Early on, I think when WoD was first announced, I remember reading the pet menagerie was gonna allow you to breed battle pets, and this is how we'd get epic quality pets. Never saw it mentioned again after that.
Whenever i think of blizzard cutting content...WoD immediately comes to mind. I recall being very upset seeing just how utterly gutted WoD felt. It simply was no where even close to being ready. It was clear they shifted allot of the resources away from wow to other projects. After watching the video, i cant help but believe that...blizzard just absolutely lied about wod from the start.
Imagine for those people who went to that BlizzCon and listened to them, all those lies and u open wod and find out, nothing was good as they said so.
Kargath running away did hit live wow.
It was changed ASAP, but he did ran away in the very first itineration of the raid ON LIVE (not only on PTR).
this change was never documented, but I remember it clearly, all of my guildies got confused the second time we beat him, it was a really really fast and stealthy change on the lore.
Could've been such a good expansion. What a shame.
WOD was such an underwhelming expansion, and seeing this makes it clear why. so much cut content that would have made the expansion amazing.
I like the fluff that you do.
I do too, this video is an exception though. I wanted something that would be easy to link to people if I ever wanted to talk about WoD in future videos
@@hirumaredx you know, this man be the fan I. Me or not but I haven’t really been dissatisfied by any video you’ve made so far. Either I find it humorous or insightful. Plus, they give me something to listen to in the background while I’m at work. :).
I appreciate this being shared! It confirms a lot of misty suspicion... and brings some sadness. What could have been had corporate not decided to trash the development process. I suppose some investors needed more in their quarterly dividend right then... and that tradition of lower development standards continued. I'm glad I picked Lord of the Rings Online for my gaming time instead.
i start to feel like Hiru have some personal feelings for WoD
This expansion had so much potential.
Blizzard: "Let's make an expansion about uncorrupted orcs, with Grom Hellscream as the final boss."
Also Blizzard: "LOL, just kidding, the orcs get corrupted by demons and the final boss is Archimonde, LMAO."
I joined 13 days before wod. My first ever expansion. I made it to cap without my friend who recruited me a day before it came out. I will always have fond memories of it despite the no content.. I just never really remembered how much was actually cut
Princess Leia : " aren't you a little short for an expansion!?"
awesome video. i was expecting one of 'em "apology" videos [iceland pony's is my favorite] but this is much better. and i wish frostfire was purple and not this desolace of draenor garrison hellhole depression syrup
I'm still waiting for the dance studio that they promised back in Wrath
i was actually very interested in farahlon and see what the neatherstorm was like
Man I remember being so hyped up for WoD the launch time for me was perfect I was home from Alaska I had the next few months off of work I had nothing but time to play and then launch day happened...
from what i took from that blizzcon, they wanted to make WoD a solo content, which was the only way you could move your garrisons where you wanted, which is why it was scrapped and pulled half the development, it wasn't working because it would require a lot of instancing and would remove the immersion of being an mmo, and more of a rpg expansion, which would've had a huge backlash, garrisons could've worked if they just made garrisons a personal instanced zone made only for you to explore aside from the world zones, garrisons should've been endgame content, not an expansion feature
Never forget.
Dance studio
Even though WoD had so much cut content.. it was still better than BFA and SL. Theme of WoD was excellent, raids and dungeons were so nice, and classes were good.
Dude nice, i see what you did there with the ending of the video
Last expansion I enjoyed was mop I didn’t even try wod quit before it launched so happy they finally released tbc classic.
The BG "Heroes through time" as well, or maybe that is smallBGc? Heroes through time was basically one horde horde base and one Alliance base facing each other with three roads and ogre PH's.
I can't believe 6.1, usually a new raid tier patch, launched with the defining features of a selfie camera and new blood elf models. WoD could have been great.
At least we got the legendary twitter patch - best content ever!
WoD was the last time i had fun in WoW actually. even tho much was cutted. It had the potential to be the best xpac but Blizz scrapped it as usual. Damn trial of the gladiator would be so awesome in retail.. but anyway im done with the game.
Agreed, I absolutely loved WoD, but it was the last time I truly enjoyed playing WoW. Classes actually felt unique and different, and the story and gameplay elements we did get were amazing.
@@SharpTony yeah and i was huge in PvP and PvE. Had tons of fun in Ashran. Now its an BG which is laggy as hell even with lesser people and is degraded to a zergfest.
2:44 I'm sorry why does my man sound like a Drell going through puberty? o.O
this could have been the best expansion ever with those things
there was also speculation that the garrison buildings could be customized with racial (and death knight style) architecture. it's a shame that this expansion never unleashed its full potential.
It's so depressing, watching this and remembering how excited I was for WoD...which wound up being the only expac I ever unsubbed from.
You know, if one day Blizzard make a Classic WOD i would be all onboard if the released it with most of cut content.
There might have been more content in WOD If the team wasn’t too busy sexually harassing and bullying women to the point of suicide 🤔
Are you some brainwashed by Twitter kid or what?
@@Alex-dc2bp she killed herself few days ago, and not in 2015, you know?
And why should we care? A LOT of humans kill themselves, but if it's a woman, then it's important?
@@SMILE53335 Alex Afrasiabi is that you?
@@MrMrTravman wtf
@@SMILE53335 Last time I checked, people cared about anyone that killed themselvest, when they find out about it. I for certain would be sad if I heard someone killed themselves over sexual abuse, regardless of their gender. It's called empathy.
what makes a brand good is after u start making promisses，u will follow and complete those promisses，not give up the second u realized it cost too much money，time or attention to do it（and finishing it）.
what make a company a brand that people won't hate is that u don't make ur plan become lies and u don't lie about ur plan.
what make blitzzard turns into shithole is that u don't know what players want，u don't know what u want but money，u don't know what u are capable of and most importantly u have too much ego to sit down and listen but u never have enough passion to fix things quick
I really hope that if the Classic Servers Continue, when we reach WoD we get WoD+ from the start instead of normal WoD. So much potential and stuff that could be added.
i would like a WotlK+ but that would never happen, making old content work again in the new systems is one thing, but activision will never greenlight making new content for it.
Man I was so excited for WoD back in the day because of so many of these empty promises I wish at the very least we got the ability to move our Garrison, I still use mine for the auctioneer to this day on my non engineers
Blizzard had their A team working on Titan for the entire early 2010s, while they started to let wow slip.
I'm convinced wow fell so hard because of all the time wasted with their best developers...
I’m convinced it was because of making the game easier all the way since TBC.
TBC Andys don’t want you to believe it, but everything from overpowered gear from quests, elite quests nerfed, earlier mount, more gold and many others paved the way for heirlooms, LFD and the other shit that ruined the RPG aspect.
@@britneyspheres7yearsago11 except that doesnt explain why they made less content... they clearly didnt have the full classic team later on
@@andrewplatt7076 this was the first expension were daddy activions set a budget limit and release day
Trial of the Gladiator should be introduced in the game, but permanently, with increased rewards at fixed times to increase participation.
With Chris metzen no longer with blizzard
My childhood is really dead
the Team of Warcraft has basically been entirely exchanged. No wonder it dowsnt feel like Azeroth anymore.
If only half of this content had been in the game, WoD would have been better then it was.
WoD is the best wow expansion that never was.
I had no idea this much had happened in wod.
We all KNEW WoD had the seeds of greatness. We all saw it! I mean damn, if they hadn't have gone public they could have spent as many years on the expansion as they wanted...
Classic WoD + with all this content would be huge, can't wait!
Never heard Hirumaredx sound so pissed, understandable
imagine if they put half of these in WOD...it might not have been hated so much.
What they really should have done on WoD and next expansions is just implement GUILD garrison that You can build pretty much anywhere (or might be a little restricted with some nodes) in any continent. There as a guild You would take as a COMMUNITY to build it, getting all the resources You need and taking it there. Garrison would be public cuz let's just be honest, there is enough place for all the guilds and if there wouldnt be, You could just take the auction system from AION online to buy the place. All this would give You a chance for siege system also with no fly restriction.
Nice overview, but where is the intro and outro?
I can see ghostcrawler sitting there contemplating his life choices... shorty after he left for Riot games 🤣
Honestly I cant wait for the new Runeterra MMORPG. I still have trust in Riot at least.
Dude probably saw the writing on the wall and get a huge paycheque from Riot.
Cataclysm and MoP may have started a population decline in WoW, but it was WoD that really should have clued us in that the old Blizzard is truly dead and buried.
But many of us just didn't want to pay attention to the red flags... We didn't pay attention...
As a warrior main, I was so hopeful that Gorehowl would be added as a legendary weapon... so disappointed that it never was.
I hope Blizzard can bring that entire thing back. I still loved WoD, but if they ever brought a similar expansion back, or made a classic WoD, maybe they can insert those ideas.
This is what they did with Warcraft Reforged. Regardless if they intended to or not, they flat out lied to the consumers about the product they were selling. Completely falsified the product they were selling, made the investors happy, but the players left with a “what the fuck is this?”
Class Accessories kinda returned with Artifacts in Legion.
Looking back, all this really seemed too good to be true.
I think the ending for this video got cut during WoD Development as well. :p
I'd rather them implement what they said they would and see how it goes, like garrisons in any zone, I played all of WoD and never knew that I woulda loved that feature! So much was cut and for no reason, I'd rather have a 5 year xpac with QoL, fun, challenging content than a 2 year xpac cycle
Common now, we all know about the carrot on a stick.How many expansions and patches have fell flat? Content promised to keep us playing and subbed.
They hyped up wod so much, I was super excited about it and then ended up quiting after the first raid teir ☹️
it seems wod was the tipping point internally at blizzard where they decided that they arent passionate enough anymore or that its simply not worth it to put in enough effort to create the best quality game
they dropped and scrapped so much content after revealing it in blizzcon, thats the stuff they couldnt put in or couldnt be bothered to implement in time, otherwise they wouldnt have revealed it at all
makes me so sad thinking about what could have been
This is what WoD could have been, if they didnt have frat parties... thats the WoD budget there folks
You should do this for other xpacs as well
Yes. Everything was cut.
This one could be awesome man...
Was the end of the video also scrapped?
Press F for Fungal Whales
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The grommosh thing was an obvious joke because the guy that asked the question was kind of rude about it.
Alternative video title: What WoD Could Have Been Had Blizzard Not Tried to Push For Yearly Xpacs
Honestly, they were trying _so_ hard to force a yearly xpac cycle, and it completely ruined at least WoD, and maybe even the end of MoP. (13 months of Siege of Org with no new content, oof)
re-introducing classic expansions from now on SHOULD include the cut content as classic+ content.
If the garrison were account bound and you could only have professions in it that you had leveled up on mains/alts....Garrison was just a great idea done in the worst way
I hate that blizzard will talk about things as if they are going to happen when really they are just ideas. I quit wow 6 months ago after 13 years of playing and I don't regret it.
If we ever get WoD Classic, they should add back everything that was scrapped
Then the fans can demand they redo every other xpac afterward due to the change in story elements.
And every time the bald guy was talking about some new aspects of the game, Ion was laughing his ass off deep inside saying smth like " Yeah, right" or "We ll see about that mofo".
if they didnt cut this content WoD would have been sick!
Makes me feel sad after watching this entire video just from the thought of how good WoD actually could have been
It was unironicly my favourite launch because of the insane levels of hype, high quality content and questing... The raids on mythic were amazing too! Then the selfiepatch with twitter came out and I went into the 5 stages of grief. It was really a solid foundation for a really good expansion that could have explored more things about the Ogre's, Draenei and the Orc clans and just completely lacked a proper expansion patch cycle. It's like Shadowlands would end on patch 9.1.
@Keith it's still not worse than bfa. All the systems in WoD COULD have worked. Azerite/corruption was NEVER going to work, nor were islands and piss easy war fronts
@@ZiqpY if they would have just plopped a new zone new raid and dungeon right in the middle of that drought it would have been remembered more fondly ...even if it wasnt main story focused since archimond was dead already
@@xadamx94 meh i don't understand all that hate on BFA it was fun expansion
@@xadamx94 bfa was pretty good. it's droughts that kill these games and bfa had a lot of stuff to do that was fun or interesting. we the players are going to make it work to kill the bosses regardless. but we need new stuff every 5 months to do
This is literally what we mean when we say, "Underpromise and overdeliver if you want to come out on top." When you do the opposite, you get WoD.
WoD was supposed to be the greatest expansion... it's so sad to see what actually happened
I remember on my walk home from school stopping by the food court in the mall by my house to get a slice of pizza and talk with my brother about all the cool stuff WoD was gonna bring... 3 days in I quit wow for nearly 2 years.
To be fair, to of its raids are viewed as some of the best raids in the game (foundry and citadel)
@@TheEiric Highmail was increadibly good too, i mean the content we got was great. The problem with WoD was there was too little content, not that the content itself sucked.
I think this is slightly revisionist, most people in the community were extremely skeptical of the time travel premise right from the get go.
@@DustGamezX yh I think the same. I wanted shattrath to be a raid in a patch with farahlon, tanaan being endgane zone at 6.0 and maybe all the grommash stuff happening in the zone at the bottom left where probably legion appears and the capture him after he is almost dead and then turning some efforts of the iron horde of fighting back into dust and then having hellfire citadel. You know grommash and then hellfire as the last raid and some redesigned things in draenor and the use maybe of some very small islands where fhere are portal etc. To conclude the content was great it was just little
could have been the best expansion of all time, like legit i’ve thought that for years
Agreed. Garrison's were a flop, but everything outside of the garrison's were incredible. The story,, the zones, the dungeons, the raids. Heck, even Ashran was fun to do and made getting full PvP gear easy. The BIGGEST problem with WoD, was the drought. There wasn't enough content, too much was cut.
Yup despite all the cuts, WoD wasn’t bad as people say.
Definitely! WoD started out amazing! One of the best leveling experience ever had and it was new too. Garrisons we’re fun but I guess they couldn’t find any content that will actually work. Now, they’ll throw anything at us without even listening.
Like WoD took place in an alternate universe, we currently exist in a universe where greed and ineptitude made WoD the worst expansion of all time. Blizzard has gotten progressively worse and worse and expansions have not improved much since. We got the bad ending.
I thought the best expansion was released in 2004
I was in a job interview, the guy asked me what i did in my spare time and i told him i play wow and he legit asked me if i liked the new expansion (wod) and i said yeah, i really like it! And be just stared at me for a solid 30sec before we kept going, i didnt get the job
probably i will do the same of the of the interviewer, just stare at you with a deep disappointment and then just remove you of the selection process. ( sorry not sorry )
The expansion was like a month old at the time but if i were in his shoes now id do the same, hah!
Why would you want to work for a clown anyways? WoD wasn't bad just short. Most bashing on it never played it. WoW community bunch of fakers and hacks.
This is like Gozer asking Ray if he’s a god all over again.
Fair
Imagine having a successful mmo and just decide during one expansion to just … stop making most of the Features you showed your players
I mean thats basically the story of Blizzard. It was one of the most respected companies that seemingly was not able to make a bad game, until they suddenly stopped?
I mean wtf
@@Mediados it's Activision's fault, not Blizzard.
@@Danka997 I know but since Blizzards original staff has almost vanished, its essentially the same
@@Danka997 nah blizzard is at fault too
They were too busy getting drunk and cube crawling ...
You know, I never really thought about the fact that we fought on a moving train in that dungeon... but there were no train tracks anywhere in the zone. Huh. xD
Fun fact: technically the train isn't moving, instead the terrain is moving to give the illusion that the train is traveling at high speed.
@@M18_CRYMORE well that's even more unrealistic :P
There are train tracks in gorgrond, up near brf. But yes, none elsewhere in the zone
@@Draedaja Frame of reference
@@M18_CRYMORE That's really common in game design, actually. Whenever you have the chance to make the environment move instead of the player, take it. Makes physics engines less buggy.
"WoD cut content video...You're shorter than I expected..."
''We have a job to do, Anakin, try not to upset him''
Am I shorter than expected?
The problem which each expansion is that as soon as its nearly finished they already start work on the next expansion rather then finishing everything that's promised. They are too focused on pushing out expansions rather then giving a complete immersive world.
Exactly, and every resource that the new expansion brings is always fucked up until its fixed at the end of the expansion.
who was that chode that decided that again. pretty sure they decided to do it on their own rather than a decision by activision.
activision needs to fucking get a grip on blizz studios lmao. we've seen magic activision can shit out with sheer monetary investment (trust me bobby is a literal god in his work). it's time to tap into that for overwatch, wow, etc. straight get another studio involved. maybe even slap down a few studios in canada again for the cheap production and high levels of good emplyees.
so instead of waiting 5 fucking years for overwatch 2 we wait 2. instead of waiting 7 month for a wow patch we get one every 3. etc.
@@dollahbill510 Yep. If they started doing three-year cycles for expansions rather than two-year cycles, everything would probably end up much better.
Nah the problem is new expansions just ditch everything from the previous expansion to give us some new broken system that people will hate until it's fixed in patch X.3.5. It's got to the point they are adding individual (crap) systems every patch now let alone per expansion!
If they took every complete system they've ever created and updated them for the new expansion the game might feel good again. They'd still need to kill the real money Token to stop the PTW boost meta though which lets be honest is what's keeping WoW afloat ATM.
Time for WoW to die at this point though. No king rules forever.
They pump expansions out because that's the games lifeline. Every expansion release sees millions of players return after they'd quit, not only buying box price but also sub. Even Shadowlands was the most sold PC game ever for a small amount of time.
I think WoD was the CRUSH that happend when Blizzard development ideas met a budget set by Activison and they had to cut insane.. and maybe devs working on other games too... and Legion is only as good as it is because lots of devs saw it as their goodbye present and I guess worked lots of overtime..
darn the explanation for the legion part is just sad :(
I read this as I heard them saying that Grommash was gonna be the last boss. That’s exactly what I thought was gonna happen in WoD too, but now I see why it could be that Legion was made. You might be right about Legion!
You also have to think about how Blizzard spends their time making content. Since expansions come out every 2 years or so, some of that time has to go into the next expansion, they are not fully dedicating each of those full 2 years to a single expansion and its content. If Blizz did it any other way, WoD would have probably been a lot better than it turned out to be.
Can we please for the love of god stop with the "it's all Activisions fault" stuff. The companies merged in 2008. WoD came out in 2014. WOTLK, Cata and MoP all released after the merger.
I too like to speculate baselessly
That was a sudden cut at the end there.
I noticed that too! Hoping it was a fun little jab at cutting content short lol
Obviously. Lol, devs couldn't afford a full outro
@@laszlosandor1458 I think that's exactly what it was
no fluff!
i thought my youtube bugged out or something lmao
This video should be renamed to the 90% of warlords that got scraped.
no? only 35% ?
@@TheChristianWood No, 90%
shows how undedicated they are to their players
Still waiting on the new dances....
Dance studio..
Noth, where's Heigan?
@@jordanshepherd7168 I can’t wait to ask that again in two years. Noth was so mad XD.
WoW is still the only MMO without customizable emotes / dances, player housing or dyeable armor.
I felt it was unacceptable that some of the allied races had the same dances as core races.
WoD had so much cut that even the intro and outro of this video were cut.
Can you please do more of these? I never knew Blizzard blatantly promised features that they never introduced. I already hate Shadowlands and solely play Classic TBC. Thanks for the excellent content.
No other expansion really has the same level of cut content as WoD. They all have some sure, but maybe 1/4th of WoD's.
@@hirumaredx Classic has mountains on the cutting room floor. Much of it forgotten about to this day. So many secretly places on the Classic game that never got their chance to shine, in some places entire zones like Azshara.
@@cattysplat but classic was not an x pac
one of the big ones that they even mocked players about was the Dance Studio, which was supposed to be a LAUNCH feature of Wrath of the Lich King and included in almost every bit of promotion leading up to the expansion's release, before simply vanishing.
I honestly feel like shadowlands was ok. It just lacked content. But there was no promised content really that was lacked. Shadowlands definitely needed more content though in my op.
Shadowlands also had alot of really bad design decisions. Forcing everyone to move one zone to the next in a linear fashion. I mean, you had to practically have loremaster in order to do maldraxus from bastion. Then you needed maldraxxus loremaster in order to go to ardenweald. And so on.
Man you needed all that to unlock dungeons and raids to.
They never seemed to listen to any of the criticism this expansion either. Making all the covenants a 1 time choice was another thing, and making it so you couldn't swap them, was also bad.
Like it just had so many bad decisions going on down the line. But the content it had was good. I had fun anyway.
The frustrating thing, is, even now, it is still the same way. You still cannot quest freely.
I always find it important to be objective. I guess I was one of those folks who did not straight up hate on shadowlands. I found things that were cool. And just did that stuff.
I had a softspot for the maw. It is the most unique zone in the whole game. I felt all the zones were cool, ardenweald will always be my favorite though.
Another bad decision here, but they took away everyone's mounts in the maw. I think if everyone had a mount down there, it would have been received better. I am also one of those folks who doesn't mind not being able to fly either. But it made no sense not to be able to us a regular 100 percent speed mount down there. What were they thinking.
I liked this expansion for what it was though. Maldraxxus was like a huge throwback to wrath. With all this undead activity going on.
Shadowlands had a boatload of untapped potential in my op. Sad to see where it actually went down though. Also I am sure there are facts that I missed to. As I am a casual 5 man and casual pvp/quester kind of a guy. But it could have been alot better.
that was an abrupt ending xD Greast Video! Sad to see how much got scrapped :(
The ending was cut like the content in WoD.